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Projectjustice
06-02-2007, 11:27 AM
I was trying to get more videos done but my movie making program is crashing on me constantly! So annoying, but I got 2 videos done, too me forever. Check them out, hope you guys enjoy them.
Shep (Urien) vs Projectjustice (Ken)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaDrz36dgZE
Shep (Ken) vs Projectjustice (Ryu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBuehlpE3FQ
Chachi
06-02-2007, 11:33 AM
Nice work on the videos. Shep's Urien looks nasty.
darkimmunity
06-02-2007, 11:39 AM
nice vids i would like to see that urien vs. ryu offline that would be good to watch
DARKHOKAGE
06-02-2007, 11:57 AM
me (MAK) vs random guy (KEN) offline vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Yeah Dood 120%
06-02-2007, 12:03 PM
me (MAK) vs random guy (KEN) offline vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0:looney: Buddy! Your Tanden Renki Makoto was too much for him to handle... dood.
Chachi
06-02-2007, 12:05 PM
me (MAK) vs random guy (KEN) offline vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0that shit was hot fo' realz
Yeah Dood 120%
06-02-2007, 12:09 PM
Sho nuff, Chachi. I was like, "No Hokage, you're about to lose buddy!" Then BAM!!! Tanden Renki rapefest... dood.
-SuGaR-
06-02-2007, 12:15 PM
Good matches man. Hey, what program are you using for capturing video? I can probably help, PM me or message me on AIM.
Projectjustice
06-02-2007, 12:36 PM
Good matches man. Hey, what program are you using for capturing video? I can probably help, PM me or message me on AIM.
My video capturing program is fine, its Windows movie maker 2. I cant edit or do anything, it crashes constantly.:annoy:
Projectjustice
06-02-2007, 12:46 PM
Shep (Oro) vs Project (Yun)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfunBEYXBPU
Shep ( Q ) vs Project (Makoto)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XblwHKKbxvc
Yeah Dood 120%
06-02-2007, 12:59 PM
:wonder: Any Yeah Dood matches... dood?
The Mullah
06-02-2007, 01:33 PM
No offence, it's just a game and all, but..
I only watched the ken vs ryu fight because i pretty much expected the same level of play i've seen for the last 2 yrs. lots of shit like immediate jumpkick forward, both rounds won with a desperate crutch denjin set up and no zoning, no poking, what is this shit? Denjin is a curse for your game. Gotta get the knockdown, gotta get the air setup. Rediculous.
You obviously love the game because you're playing it on and offline and posting in here all day, don't you ever try to improve? If you can play without unconfirmed specials off a mk , without jumping when you're unsure how to advance etc, you'll find out what your game is really made of.
I'm not attacking you because i think you suck at 3s, it's just frustrating to see people underachieve.
Projectjustice
06-02-2007, 01:37 PM
No offence, it's just a game and all, but..
I only watched the ken vs ryu fight because i pretty much expected the same level of play i've seen for the last 2 yrs. lots of shit like immediate jumpkick forward, both rounds won with a desperate crutch denjin set up and no zoning, no poking, what is this shit? Denjin is a curse for your game. Gotta get the knockdown, gotta get the air setup. Rediculous.
You obviously love the game because you're playing it on and offline and posting in here all day, don't you ever try to improve? If you can play without unconfirmed specials off a mk , without jumping when you're unsure how to advance etc, you'll find out what your game is really made of.
I'm not attacking you because i think you suck at 3s, it's just frustrating to see people underachieve.
I can hit confirm, you should watch the other vids. Ive also improved many folds. Hold Dat, Capcom Denji, and Alacard can tell you.
XEN MASTER MARK
06-02-2007, 02:05 PM
Your hit confirming off Yun's target combo is sound. That's for sure.
I dunno about anybody else, but the C.MK has always been a dead weight for me. I rarely see anybody do pure confirms off it, even in high level play. I say that, and I can usually get the C.MP confirms and a host of other shit fine.
I watched all the vids. Good stuff.
I hate to go off topic (actually that's a lie, I don't really care :lol:) but can any Oro players recommend what to go for after landing the close MP against the twins? Been playing for 2 years and I still don't have a clue :(
R.P.D rookie
06-02-2007, 02:17 PM
I see you Shep.....I see you using my character and my super art. Why you do dis? >=)
The Mullah
06-02-2007, 02:26 PM
I can hit confirm, you should watch the other vids. Ive also improved many folds. Hold Dat, Capcom Denji, and Alacard can tell you.
i don't know anything about anyone but ken and ryu, so i don't bother watching those vids, it all looks pretty swish to me.
and i'm literally talking about the shoto medium sweep, not targets and short shorts with them or other chars.
Projectjustice
06-02-2007, 02:29 PM
i don't know anything about anyone but ken and ryu, so i don't bother watching those vids, it all looks pretty swish to me.
and i'm literally talking about the shoto medium sweep, not targets and short shorts with them or other chars.
Ok, i can C.MK SA2 with Ken or SA1 with Ryu all day. With Denji, its all about setups, you should know this.
The Mullah
06-02-2007, 02:39 PM
Oh yeah? i've never seen you hit confirm a mk into a super in any of the vids i've seen. i've seen you spazz one out but the timing is so tight you can argue it either way. No point in disputing this further.
Anyway, i play a solid shoto in 3s and it's not a product of natural skill or time spent playing because i havent much of either, it's just about playing smart and elminating crutches and repetitious play. It takes a fair whack of mental effort to play outside of your comfort zone.
Projectjustice
06-02-2007, 02:42 PM
Oh yeah? i've never seen you hit confirm a mk into a super in any of the vids i've seen. i've seen you spazz one out but the timing is so tight you can argue it either way. No point in disputing this further.
You dont have to. When I play you, you will see me hit confirm you the entire set. Im not worried about my hit confirm.
Anyway, i play a solid shoto in 3s and it's not a product of natural skill or time spent playing because i havent much of either, it's just about playing smart and elminating crutches and repetitious play. It takes a fair whack of mental effort to play outside of your comfort zone.
Thats great to hear Mullah, I golf clap you.
xsonicc
06-02-2007, 02:59 PM
I was trying to get more videos done but my movie making program is crashing on me constantly! So annoying, but I got 2 videos done, too me forever. Check them out, hope you guys enjoy them.
Shep (Urien) vs Projectjustice (Ken)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaDrz36dgZE
Shep (Ken) vs Projectjustice (Ryu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBuehlpE3FQ
i also didn't see you hit confirm anything, i saw you guess parry c.mk xx super though. you fireball too much, poor mixups.. also your denjin setups were really bad.
i agree with what mullah said.
Shep srk
06-02-2007, 03:01 PM
I see you Shep.....I see you using my character and my super art. Why you do dis? >=)
I just imitating the master thats all if your the best I had to play like it.:lol:
Shep srk
06-02-2007, 03:06 PM
Nice work on the videos. Shep's Urien looks nasty.
Thanks for the props playa
SF and PROS
06-02-2007, 03:15 PM
First of all, if one is to come down on the skills of the players featured on this video (or lack thereof) one should commence with the player named Shit D:
This fool sucks as much as he did 2 years ago, yet he is ranked in the top 10 and misleadingly people believe he is good, plus he gets Good Games posts to solidify the lie even further.
I demand on behalf of all Urien players that Shit D be forbidden from using him (Urien) ever again! His exhibition of random garbage was simply sacrilege against a character that some of us have devoted time and effort to learn; therefore sacred to some of us.
On Project Justice's behalf:
Cr Mk is the only way he lands supers with Chun and Ken; which is one of his weaknesses. Shippu is one of the most versatile SAs in the game, and can be landed in so many ways that limiting your game to Cr Mk canceled into Shippu is rubbish.
I remember from last time we played, I also took note of how PJ would do a short shoryu after a missed/blocked St Mk every time.
One of his strong points (PJ's) is his mixup with the UOH, which I rarely saw being used, just make sure that you don't get abusive with it, like any tactic overused it becomes obsolete.
I think between the 2, I'd have to go with PJ on this one. My critics towards PJ are constructive in nature as well, so please don't get it twisted homie. You need to do some work in the dojo, if you were to feaking play me we could get some nice training going on, and record that shit so I can get called a scrub too. :bgrin:
P.S. OMFG I just saw that Oro match, fucking Shit D should be banned from playing 3S PERIOD!!
Shep srk
06-02-2007, 03:17 PM
First of all, if one is to come down on the skills of the players featured on this video (or lack thereof) one should commence with the player named Shit D:
This fool sucks as much as he did 2 years ago, yet he is ranked in the top 10 and misleadingly people believe he is good, plus he gets Good Games posts to solidify the lie even further.
I demand on behalf of all Urien players that Shit D be forbidden from using him (Urien) ever again! His exhibition of random garbage was simply sacrilege against a character that some of us have devoted time and effort to learn; therefore sacred to some of us.
On Project Justice's behalf:
Cr Mk is the only way he lands supers with Chun and Ken; which is one of his weaknesses. Shippu is one of the most versatile SAs in the game, and can be landed in so many ways that limiting your game to Cr Mk canceled into Shippu is rubbish.
I remember from last time we played, I also took note of how PJ would do a short shoryu after a missed/blocked St Mk every time.
One of his strong points (PJ's) is his mixup with the UOH, which I rarely saw being used, just make sure that you don't get abusive with it, like any tactic overused it becomes obsolete.
I think between the 2, I'd have to go with PJ on this one. My critics towards PJ are constructive in nature as well, so please don't get it twisted homie. :bgrin:
I'll I can say fool is go pay your internet bill
SF and PROS
06-02-2007, 03:23 PM
Mike (Project Justice): Let's go play online after I finish my dinner, make sure we record that shit.
Projectjustice
06-02-2007, 03:25 PM
First of all, if one is to come down on the skills of the players featured on this video (or lack thereof) one should commence with the player named Shit D:
This fool sucks as much as he did 2 years ago, yet he is ranked in the top 10 and misleadingly people believe he is good, plus he gets Good Games posts to solidify the lie even further.
I demand on behalf of all Urien players that Shit D be forbidden from using him (Urien) ever again! His exhibition of random garbage was simply sacrilege against a character that some of us have devoted time and effort to learn; therefore sacred to some of us.
On Project Justice's behalf:
Cr Mk is the only way he lands supers with Chun and Ken; which is one of his weaknesses. Shippu is one of the most versatile SAs in the game, and can be landed in so many ways that limiting your game to Cr Mk canceled into Shippu is rubbish.
I remember from last time we played, I also took note of how PJ would do a short shoryu after a missed/blocked St Mk every time.
One of his strong points (PJ's) is his mixup with the UOH, which I rarely saw being used, just make sure that you don't get abusive with it, like any tactic overused it becomes obsolete.
I think between the 2, I'd have to go with PJ on this one. My critics towards PJ are constructive in nature as well, so please don't get it twisted homie. You need to do some work in the dojo, if you were to feaking play me we could get some nice training going on, and record that shit so I can get called a scrub too. :bgrin:
P.S. OMFG I just saw that Oro match, fucking Shit D should be banned from playing 3S PERIOD!!
I wont get upset, those vidoes dont show my best efforts. Im not the best player and I only consider myself a decent player. I screwed up a lot but it happens. Ive had days which I played a top game vs someone and others just normal. Only thing that bothered was people thinking I cant hit confirm.
As for Shep D, hes a solid ass player. I have to play him right or I would lose.:sweat:
Phix_uk
06-02-2007, 03:25 PM
First of all, if one is to come down on the skills of the players featured on this video (or lack thereof) one should commence with the player named Shit D:
This fool sucks as much as he did 2 years ago, yet he is ranked in the top 10 and misleadingly people believe he is good, plus he gets Good Games posts to solidify the lie even further.
I demand on behalf of all Urien players that Shit D be forbidden from using him (Urien) ever again! His exhibition of random garbage was simply sacrilege against a character that some of us have devoted time and effort to learn; therefore sacred to some of us.
On Project Justice's behalf:
Cr Mk is the only way he lands supers with Chun and Ken; which is one of his weaknesses. Shippu is one of the most versatile SAs in the game, and can be landed in so many ways that limiting your game to Cr Mk canceled into Shippu is rubbish.
I remember from last time we played, I also took note of how PJ would do a short shoryu after a missed/blocked St Mk every time.
One of his strong points (PJ's) is his mixup with the UOH, which I rarely saw being used, just make sure that you don't get abusive with it, like any tactic overused it becomes obsolete.
I think between the 2, I'd have to go with PJ on this one. My critics towards PJ are constructive in nature as well, so please don't get it twisted homie. You need to do some work in the dojo, if you were to feaking play me we could get some nice training going on, and record that shit so I can get called a scrub too. :bgrin:
P.S. OMFG I just saw that Oro match, fucking Shit D should be banned from playing 3S PERIOD!!
i totally agree ive put alot of fukkin time into learning urien mix ups setups et al and that video made me cringe ....
The shit you got away with was unbelivable you my freind are what i term a live urien you have no love for the character what so ever no decent mixups missed bread and butter combos no one unblockable in sight common a lp aegis into dash throw :looney:
Meh ... Rb tommorow where i might see some decent play
Phix
SF and PROS
06-02-2007, 03:30 PM
I wont get upset, those vidoes dont show my best efforts. Im not the best player and I only consider myself a decent player. I screwed up a lot but it happens. Ive had days which I played a top game vs someone and others just normal. Only thing that bothered was people thinking I cant hit confirm.
As for Shep D, hes a solid ass player. I have to play him right or I would lose.:sweat:
I think it is detrimental to his ego to be nice to Shit D, the charade that he calls skills is offensive, and not letting him know he sucks will lead him to believe that he is not absolute rubbish at 3S. To me it seems a little hypocritical to give high fives to sucky players, just because you don't want to be mean.
So how about those matches, are we gonna do this or not?
Shep srk
06-02-2007, 03:33 PM
Just look for me I'll be on
Shep srk
06-02-2007, 03:36 PM
Stop guys your hurting my feelings :rofl: .
SF and PROS
06-02-2007, 03:36 PM
^^^LOL not challenging you, I have already destroyed your ass too many times in the past, and our connection is garbage; however, if I see you just don't decline me like last time I challenged you.
Projectjustice
06-02-2007, 03:39 PM
I think it is detrimental to his ego to be nice to Shit D, the charade that he calls skills is offensive, and not letting him know he sucks will lead him to believe that he is not absolute rubbish at 3S. To me it seems a little hypocritical to give high fives to sucky players, just because you don't want to be mean.
So how about those matches, are we gonna do this or not?
I'll PM you later when ill get on.
Shep srk
06-02-2007, 04:09 PM
[QUOTE=SF and PROS;3977232]^^^LOL not challenging you, I have already destroyed your ass too many times in the past, and our connection is garbage; however, if I see you just don't decline me like last time I challenged you.[/QUOTE
Hey Pacman you are by far the biggest attention whore on SRK... You own me in garbage connections something to be proud of but whatever haters are everywhere thanks for the energy i like that your focusing on me :lovin:
SF and PROS
06-02-2007, 04:33 PM
Just a guess, but if you were winning the garbage connection would probably not bother you. Need I remind you that you are predictable with Dudley, and as the videos in this thread show, you have no skill with any other character? Bro, people are being nice when they say your shit is tight, so don't let it get to your head, when in doubt, let's play again, and see if the garbage connection smiles upon you.
XEN MASTER MARK
06-02-2007, 04:47 PM
Chun's C.MK is one of the easier confirms. I won't dispute that it's her best; The timing is lenient, range is huge, speed is good, priority is crazy. I can't argue against that.
Ken is a different story though. He has 3 hit confirms ahead of C.MK that are easier and more reliable (Target combo, C.LK CLK, and C.MP). His C.MK can be buffered outside of maximum range (as you'll see in high level videos) and it's his only option to punish from some ranges, but that's not hit-confirming!
Of all the very good shoto players I run into on Live, none of them use C.MK as a hit confirm - not a single one. There are respected players on the offline strategy forums who insist Ken's C.MK is too hard to hit-confirm (though some also disagree).
By all means, punish with C.MK super, verify it off their parries, buffer it to your hearts content, but you have far better options for hit confirming. Especially at point blank range.
The same applies to Sean, Ryu and Akuma.
My penny.
Arcas V
06-02-2007, 05:42 PM
Yeah, that Urien does need some work. I'll post my thoughts if you want... I don't like giving advice when people don't ask for it.
-SuGaR-
06-02-2007, 05:51 PM
My video capturing program is fine, its Windows movie maker 2. I cant edit or do anything, it crashes constantly.:annoy:DL Vitual Dub it's way better and it's free :wgrin:
SF and PROS
06-02-2007, 08:40 PM
Chun's C.MK is one of the easier confirms. I won't dispute that it's her best; The timing is lenient, range is huge, speed is good, priority is crazy. I can't argue against that.
Ken is a different story though. He has 3 hit confirms ahead of C.MK that are easier and more reliable (Target combo, C.LK CLK, and C.MP). His C.MK can be buffered outside of maximum range (as you'll see in high level videos) and it's his only option to punish from some ranges, but that's not hit-confirming!
Of all the very good shoto players I run into on Live, none of them use C.MK as a hit confirm - not a single one. There are respected players on the offline strategy forums who insist Ken's C.MK is too hard to hit-confirm (though some also disagree).
By all means, punish with C.MK super, verify it off their parries, buffer it to your hearts content, but you have far better options for hit confirming. Especially at point blank range.
The same applies to Sean, Ryu and Akuma.
My penny.
I cannot agree with you more, I have a list of players from Live that can only land a super off Cr Mk with any character (like PJ with Yun in the vid) as well as a list of noobs that can only mash out of a shoryu like move, not random players mind you, but SRKers......sad really.
Shep srk
06-02-2007, 09:06 PM
Yeah, that Urien does need some work. I'll post my thoughts if you want... I don't like giving advice when people don't ask for it.
I am not really focusing on Urien I just play all the characters because I get bored...I have over 40000 games in and its just live. I play the person not the character anyway but I wouldn't mine hearing what you have to say at all nas
Shadowstep
06-02-2007, 09:14 PM
Damn good vids, I also saw you put something on Chun Li parry...is that why you keep using Chun Li?
THeMachine
06-03-2007, 11:18 AM
Decent games. Nothing spectacular :P If you could improve on little things like proper punishments then you could compete!
Projectjustice
06-03-2007, 11:54 AM
Damn good vids, I also saw you put something on Chun Li parry...is that why you keep using Chun Li?
I started to use Chun to learn to hit confirm better. That parry vid was me just messing around with my video software. Was trying to find a balance for good quality and low capacity at the same time.
Jester
06-03-2007, 12:14 PM
:sad: noone ever records my matches. The glory of purple Q continues to be unsung.
Arcas V
06-03-2007, 02:00 PM
I am not really focusing on Urien I just play all the characters because I get bored...I have over 40000 games in and its just live. I play the person not the character anyway but I wouldn't mine hearing what you have to say at all nas
K. I'd stay away from the knee drops. They will almost never work as a mix up, but you got them to land because they countered some of pj's moves (throw and fireball) by chance. So instead of taking a risk with an unsafe move, just counter his moves with something else. The fireball might be harder to counter but you could still just jump it and get a rh in. The wiffed throw should be no problem though, you can do just about anything- walk back out of range and do c.fp, get in a fast poke, jump, whatever.
Use your pokes wisely. There was a time when you did lk after a wiffed srk (im guessing you tried to combo a tackle) but you couldve got a free c.fp. And another where you did close sweep- Urien's sweep is mad slow (13 frames) and unsafe at that (-13) so it's just another risk you don't need to take. C.mk may not get a knock down and do as much damage, but in the long run it's better than c.rh. And also use s.fp more- It's a good move to use like chun's s.fp, it's not as good ofcourse but you can beat out a good amount of moves and it's good to use in a block string. eg- if you do c.lk then s.fp, people will try to attack after the lk and get hit by the fp.
Don't do headbutt after c.fp, the tackle is almost always a better option (it get's them in the corner and is the start of his main combo). Also you did ex headbutt after c.fp when you had meter for a super- that was a perfect oppurtunity for his unblockable (c.fp > lk tackle xx fp sa3 > dash > mp headbutt> unblockable (forward mk being the standard one).
One time you did lp aegis after a throw... I guess I discussed this in the other thread ... so yeah, just don't do that lol.
hope that helps
SF and PROS
06-03-2007, 03:34 PM
He wasn't serious about learning Urien, is not like the strategy section hasn't been there for years. You're too nice Arcas, but I'd rather proceed with the petition to forbid Shit D from performing sacrilege, he should stick to performing fellatio that is for sure.
HarmoNaz
06-03-2007, 04:34 PM
Xen - you need to come down to London and watch the top players in action. When Ken DOESN'T confirm a cr.mk - the player starts to get labelled as 'not that good'...
When the RB vid comes out, hopefully you'll see a lot of it.
DevilJin 01
06-03-2007, 05:12 PM
Another cross country fight...meh.
Shep srk
06-03-2007, 05:24 PM
K. I'd stay away from the knee drops. They will almost never work as a mix up, but you got them to land because they countered some of pj's moves (throw and fireball) by chance. So instead of taking a risk with an unsafe move, just counter his moves with something else. The fireball might be harder to counter but you could still just jump it and get a rh in. The wiffed throw should be no problem though, you can do just about anything- walk back out of range and do c.fp, get in a fast poke, jump, whatever.
Use your pokes wisely. There was a time when you did lk after a wiffed srk (im guessing you tried to combo a tackle) but you couldve got a free c.fp. And another where you did close sweep- Urien's sweep is mad slow (13 frames) and unsafe at that (-13) so it's just another risk you don't need to take. C.mk may not get a knock down and do as much damage, but in the long run it's better than c.rh. And also use s.fp more- It's a good move to use like chun's s.fp, it's not as good ofcourse but you can beat out a good amount of moves and it's good to use in a block string. eg- if you do c.lk then s.fp, people will try to attack after the lk and get hit by the fp.
Don't do headbutt after c.fp, the tackle is almost always a better option (it get's them in the corner and is the start of his main combo). Also you did ex headbutt after c.fp when you had meter for a super- that was a perfect oppurtunity for his unblockable (c.fp > lk tackle xx fp sa3 > dash > mp headbutt> unblockable (forward mk being the standard one).
One time you did lp aegis after a throw... I guess I discussed this in the other thread ... so yeah, just don't do that lol.
hope that helps
Yeah I always forget to do the tackle instead of the headbutt after C.fp bad habit... good call and I appreciate the other tips.:tup:
Shep srk
06-03-2007, 05:32 PM
Another cross country fight...meh.
No fight he just talks and hopes someone is listening
DevilJin 01
06-03-2007, 06:46 PM
I was talking about the fights between you and PJ. Just doesn't make sense to analyze vids where lag obviously gets in the way.
Silks
06-04-2007, 01:33 AM
:sad: noone ever records my matches. The glory of purple Q continues to be unsung.
Wait... damnit... I use grape Q. I thought you used green or something. Don't make me change to orange. I stay on topic :wonder:
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