CPS3 Broken!!!

[Shade]

Not until the game's graphical issues are worked out when a better emulator (and/or update to these two existing ones)surfaces.

[SaBrE]

i see one more post even hinting at asking for help on how to get copyrighted material to work or where to get it from, i will perm ban without warning. theres already 2 that i saw a page back that i should ban right now.

use your brain before posting. only warning

[Shade]

i see one more post even hinting at asking for help on how to get copyrighted material to work or where to get it from, i will perm ban without warning. theres already 2 that i saw a page back that i should ban right now.

use your brain before posting. only warning

Look, just close the thread, and ban all emulation talk of any kind. Thread's pointless, if you cant even discuss emulation in detail.

My opinion? You guys are stepping out of your boundary. Emulation talk is not illegal in itself. It's only the act of passing around illegal roms (not all are illegal anymore, mind you). You knew where this was going, prior to the beta emu being dropped. There are no legal CPS3 roms. lol

If you ban people talking about their computer specs, problems with emulators running on certain hardware, then where does it end? Where's the line?

[jugoso]

Shade, someone's knocking at your door

it's the FBI

[RushedDown]

just played it online its passable

[jswey]

just played it online its passable

edit:
nvm dont want to get banned or anything

[Shade]

Shade, someone's knocking at your door

it's the FBI

bwhaha.

[Mixah]

Can I ask why my post was edited Albert? WTF? I didn't even think that I posted anything but what's still there.

[Iceddrink]

i see one more post even hinting at asking for help on how to get copyrighted material to work or where to get it from, i will perm ban without warning. theres already 2 that i saw a page back that i should ban right now.

use your brain before posting. only warning Look, just close the thread, and ban all emulation talk of any kind. Thread's pointless, if you cant even discuss emulation in detail.

My opinion? You guys are stepping out of your boundary. Emulation talk is not illegal in itself. It's only the act of passing around illegal roms (not all are illegal anymore, mind you). You knew where this was going, prior to the beta emu being dropped. There are no legal CPS3 roms. lol

If you ban people talking about their computer specs, problems with emulators running on certain hardware, then where does it end? Where's the line?

I thought the point of Tech talk was: "Talk about hardware, joysticks, emulators/roms, computers, new technology such as HDTV, and anything else that is cool." as it says on the top. So why was hecz and Shad0wz banned? I didn't see them distributing or asking for roms.

[Shade]

They didn't. If I were them, I'd take it up with an admin outside of these forums. I've got their back.

[SaBrE]

shade: if you have a problem with the way we handle things, you are more then welcome to leave. the point being is, emulation is a VERY touchy subject. we have an obligation to keep this site as LEGAL as possible. even many emu sites operate it the same way.

read the rules and read what i said. ANY DISCUSSION on how to OBTAIN roms, bios' (AKA copyrighted material) and/or how to get it to work is not gonna be tolerated. if you have any sense, you would understand our side to keep this place completely legal. and i will do what is neccessary to keep it that way.

like i said, if you have a problem with it, you dont have to be here. talk about emulation all you want, and actually talk about the games. emulation programs have not been deemed illegal(yet). jsut dont discuss how to obtain, or even hint how to obtain(ie "send me a pm for help") or tell/ask how to make illegal files how to work.

i dont think it can be any clearer. the thread was fine until the emu got released and people started asking about help on roms and such. and thats where it ends. and the mods/admin reserve the right to ban if such actions are made. it gets really old having to re-iterate this every time an emu thread is made.

bottom line, just dont do it. take it somewhere else.

iceddrink: i will admit, that sub topic is misleading. i wil lget with wiz to get that changed. what was meant with that was talk about emulation and games. which is fine. just dont discuss how to get it to work or obtain. kinda like a dont ask, dont tell thing lol

[str[e]ak]

shade: if you have a problem with the way we handle things, you are more then welcome to leave. the point being is, emulation is a VERY touchy subject. we have an obligation to keep this site as LEGAL as possible. even many emu sites operate it the same way.

read the rules and read what i said. ANY DISCUSSION on how to OBTAIN roms, bios' (AKA copyrighted material) and/or how to get it to work is not gonna be tolerated. if you have any sense, you would understand our side to keep this place completely legal. and i will do what is neccessary to keep it that way.

like i said, if you have a problem with it, you dont have to be here. talk about emulation all you want, and actually talk about the games. emulation programs have not been deemed illegal(yet). jsut dont discuss how to obtain, or even hint how to obtain(ie "send me a pm for help") or tell/ask how to make illegal files how to work.

i dont think it can be any clearer. the thread was fine until the emu got released and people started asking about help on roms and such. and thats where it ends. and the mods/admin reserve the right to ban if such actions are made. it gets really old having to re-iterate this every time an emu thread is made.

bottom line, just dont do it. take it somewhere else.

iceddrink: i will admit, that sub topic is misleading. i wil lget with wiz to get that changed. what was meant with that was talk about emulation and games. which is fine. just dont discuss how to get it to work or obtain. kinda like a dont ask, dont tell thing lol

i understand where you're coming from, and i read the previous posts by the people who got banned. and i'm pretty sure, as far as i can remember, that one of them was only asking why the emulator was giving him an error (which is, from your instructions, a legal kinda thing to post here). it's just one of my random thoughts during the day; don't want to get banned.

back on the topic, please let the cps3 project be completed tomorrow. if it gets finished tomorrow, i'm declaring it a national holiday. lol :cool:

[Shade]

shade: if you have a problem with the way we handle things, you are more then welcome to leave.

I'm quite fine where I am, thank you.

read the rules and read what i said. ANY DISCUSSION on how to OBTAIN roms, bios' (AKA copyrighted material) and/or how to get it to work is not gonna be tolerated.

Those fellas who were banned didn't direct, or help anyone on how to obtain roms. I dont know them from jump, but I know enough where a mod screwed up, do to one reason or another.

i dont think it can be any clearer. the thread was fine until the emu got released and people started asking about help on roms and such. and thats where it ends. and the mods/admin reserve the right to ban if such actions are made. it gets really old having to re-iterate this every time an emu thread is made.

Yep, and this is where you mess up. ROMs aren't illegal in ithemselves. It's the act of having a rom in your possession, without owning the actual game (cart, CD, chipset/board, whatever), that's illegal. You have no clue on what that status is with the ones who were suddenly banned. They were banned without question, for asking how to get their emulators running, and working properly.

Quick facts.

-Emulators arent illegal. There's no questions, or discussions for it. It;s been disucssed in court, and legal cases. As I sad, it's owning roms (which are backups) without not actually owning legal copies of the games.

-CPS3 Emulation was made possible, so that the very hard, and delicate CPS3 boards can be backed up. A slew of arcade cabinets have hardware issues, or have had problems. Now, they can back them up, and run them still within cabinets, because they can now run them through these WIP emus.

Heh. Seriously, I know you have a duty to uphold, and that's all fine and dandy. It's when you perform your job incorrectly, that I have a problem with. And I'm here to help you from not making this mistake.

[MrWizard]

Well unless you can prove that you actually own the rom, the discussion here won't be allowed.

Is that clear enough for you?

[eks]

and/or how to get it to work is not gonna be tolerated.

why you guys still arguing?

[Shade]

Well unless you can prove that you actually own the rom, the discussion here won't be allowed.

Is that clear enough for you?

I'm not defending myself, nor am I even asking for assistance. No problems on my side.

Read the post again, Wizard. This isn't about me. It's about the slew of people whom I witness get banned for asking why an emulator wasn't working properly.

Doesnt matter to much to me on what their status remains. I'm just calling out the flaws in the moderation.

[SaBrE]

let me tell you something. you do NOT know how the law is. all that BS that you hear about how its legal to have a copy if you own the original is a bunch of bullshit to me. for one, with a rom, the product has been altered(in this case cps3), you are acting upon copyright infringement. cps3 emulation was possible due to modification and circumventing the security to hack thru and make it work. that is automatically illegal. the fact that its modified constitutes it as a hacked rom. unhacked roms, once again, touchy subject. but we choose not to bother with it and leave it alone for safety

next, yes its great that its hacked, yes its great that it may be possible to revive dead carts now. but in reality, that is ILLEGAL. ESPECIALLY if someone is selling the service to someone. this is illegal. do the companies care? dunno, some might, some might not, since its deemed a dead format. but that is not up to us to decide.

honestly, i didnt know the other users were banned. but it was justifiable. one of the guys said his 3s(which is illegal rom) wasnt working. one guy asked what the problem was, and the other guy said "i cant talk about it here, just send me a pm" that is a bannable offense. even says so in the rules. i even stated it earlier in the thread not to go there.

i think you base the law more on "will the companies that hold the copyright run with the ball and do something" rather than factual law. it is copyright infringement. and its not tolerated in anyway. thats all there is to it

[Iceddrink]

Well unless you can prove that you actually own the rom, the discussion here won't be allowed.

Is that clear enough for you?

How is one going to prove that they own the game to a rom? Break the disk and take a picture? Anyway as for owning rom and emulator, it is legal just as it is to have a mp3 on your computer if you have the actual cd. Otherwise I think Windows media player and other CD ripping programs would have multiply lawsuits for providing means to put cd music to the computer. By owning a rom, all you are doing is creating a copy on your computer just like a mp3 of a song.

Section 117 of the U.S.C. Title 17 (Copyright law), states:

Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:

(1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful. Any exact copies prepared in accordance with the provisions of this section may be leased, sold, or otherwise transferred, along with the copy from which such copies were prepared, only as part of the lease, sale, or other transfer of all rights in the program. Adaptations so prepared may be transferred only with the authorization of the copyright owner."
Console games/arcade games are classified as computer programs.

So, according to the copyright law, you CAN own a copy of a software program you own(contrary to what Nintendo and the IDSA wants you to believe).

tl;dr: It is not illegal to have a rom or emulator.

[Shade]

We aren't gonna agree, or come to conclusion on this without bumping heads, and since I have no jurisdiction here, I'm halting on any further discussion with you on this subject. So, on that note, it's whatever.

As for future reference, Emulation talk of any kind should be disallowed, since, according to you fellas, it's just about grounds for a ban, regardless of how cautious you are.

Until you guys make the grounds for these types of subjects understood perfectly clear, in a sticky perhaps, people are gonna get banned, thinking they were going about their business appropriately.

I suggest you guys read up on copyright laws, and how they work. These subjects seems extremely new to you (sabre, wiz).

EDIT: ^beaten to it.

[Gaijinblaze]

Jeez, you guys are really being nazis about this. People are excited, naturally they're going to slip and say some regrettable things. It's not like worse posts (an understatement) aren't being made in GD as we speak. Cut them some slack.

Heh, I haven't even tried the emulator yet. Damn you all for having fun without me.

[Iceddrink]

why you guys still arguing?

I rather not see this forum go dead because the moderators decide to ban people (and maybe more people in the future) who were following rules as listed in the forum.

[Mixah]

seriously, i wanna know something......

Why has there been this rediculous amount of arguing with the mods lately? Seriously, Wizard is going to shut down SRK, and we're all going to get fucked because of it. I'm not trying to be a brown noser, but to be 1000% perfectly clear, it's HIS SITE, HE OWNS THE SHIT, AND IF EVERYBODY KEEPS FUCKING UP, AND NOT LISTENING TO WHAT HE SAYS, THE SHIT'S GOING TO HIT THE FAN, AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE WEARING IT ON THEIR FACE.
I don't get what you people don't understand. Wiz says something, LEAVE IT AT THAT AND SHUT UP. I don't care anymore, but seriously... Shit's been going down in the Premium forums, there's been this rediculous amount of new posters that just fucking suck and come here, asking the shit that Gamefaqs is still available for to answer, and acting like dipshits when it comes to Roms, Warez, Apps, etc. Seriously, you're fucking it up for the rest of us.

I vote lock this thread, everybody shut up, and go back to SRK 2006

[SaBrE]

well if you guys wanna avoid the worries of whats boarderline and getting infractions/deletions/bans, then you are more than welcome to take it elsewhere. once again, talking about emulation is fine. talking about the games, fine. talking about making it work and obtaining, is NOT. i honestly dont see that to be a very hard rule to follow.

this is not personal, this is just to keep this site legal and hassle free. call it nazi attacks or whatever. i call it keeping this site safe

shade: until you can show and prove to me 100%, or more importantly wiz, without a doubt, that all this stuff is legal, whcih im sure you wont be able to, it will be prohibited. END OF STORY

and this conversation is over.

[str[e]ak]

seriously, i wanna know something......

Why has there been this rediculous amount of arguing with the mods lately? Seriously, Wizard is going to shut down SRK, and we're all going to get fucked because of it. I'm not trying to be a brown noser, but to be 1000% perfectly clear, it's HIS SITE, HE OWNS THE SHIT, AND IF EVERYBODY KEEPS FUCKING UP, AND NOT LISTENING TO WHAT HE SAYS, THE SHIT'S GOING TO HIT THE FAN, AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE WEARING IT ON THEIR FACE.
I don't get what you people don't understand. Wiz says something, LEAVE IT AT THAT AND SHUT UP. I don't care anymore, but seriously... Shit's been going down in the Premium forums, there's been this rediculous amount of new posters that just fucking suck and come here, asking the shit that Gamefaqs is still available for to answer, and acting like dipshits when it comes to Roms, Warez, Apps, etc. Seriously, you're fucking it up for the rest of us.

I vote lock this thread, everybody shut up, and go back to SRK 2006

lol mixah, after this whole shabangabang, they still didn't respond to your question.

[Mixah]

ak;4033024']lol mixah, after this whole shabangabang, they still didn't respond to your question.

I'm not even joking around when I say that, I don't even care what the answer is. You know what I care about? SRK. That's all. I love this community, I love the friends that I've made here, I love that I can come here and talk about the only genre of games that I like, and I love that the people here, for the most part, are somewhat level headed. I love that this forum doesn't take pansy shit, the mods don't act like little cunt rags, and that the admin are super fucking cool. This is the only website that I've ever paid for a membership to, and probably the last one. Shit, I have until January (I think) until my shit runs out, and you know what? If Wizard closes it, me, and all the rest of the premiums lose their money. If it wasn't even about loving the website so dearly, do you think us premiums want to lose the money we've given? FUCK THAT! I want this shit to go over, get resolved, and fucking end. It's been getting out of control the past few days, with spamming bullshit and people starting shit, JUST BECAUSE THEY CANT FOLLOW RULES! There was a thread in the Premium Forum that was closed after 20K posts, because ONE PERSON DIDNT FOLLOW A RULE!. Seriously, what the fuck is that bullshit? It's really getting immature, and a lot of people here need to grow up. I'm not mentioning any names, but you know who I'm talking to.

[Shade]

shade: until you can show and prove to me 100%, or more importantly wiz, without a doubt, that all this stuff is legal, whcih im sure you wont be able to, it will be prohibited. END OF STORY


Section 117 of the U.S.C. Title 17 (Copyright law), states:

Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:

(1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful. Any exact copies prepared in accordance with the provisions of this section may be leased, sold, or otherwise transferred, along with the copy from which such copies were prepared, only as part of the lease, sale, or other transfer of all rights in the program. Adaptations so prepared may be transferred only with the authorization of the copyright owner."
Console games/arcade games are classified as computer programs.

(filler)

[Mixah]

Shade, I'm not going to lie to you, beacuse you're cool and all, but seriously... Drop it

and also, that section of the law doesn't state ANYWHERE that it's legal, unless you want to REALLY read between the lines and make shit out of something that's not there.

It STATES that you NEED TO OWN A LEGIT COPY in order to emulate it (aka, you need to own one, as long as a copy of it is in your possession), just as Wiz said. Contributing to unlawful activity is just as bad as doing it yourself. I'm all about emulation, all about mod-chips, free games, getting shit for free, because the guys that matter (developers) don't get much money for it anyway, so I'd rather not cater to retail America, and getting stuff in general for free.... But a rule's a rule, if the owner doesn't want the conversation here, leave it out. It's really not illegal to discuss it, but the problem is, if somebody gets caught, and is asked "Where'd you get it?", and that person points to SRK, guess what? WIz is responsible.

[str[e]ak]

People are excited, naturally they're going to slip and say some regrettable things. It's not like worse posts (an understatement) aren't being made in GD as we speak. Cut them some slack.

mixah, yeah i get what you're saying. i grew up on street fighter, and jeesus, i was about to pay for premium myself too (my parents would have killed me, no joke). i check this place out at least twice a day, ever since my friend introduced me to it. i totally understand how this whole thing just blew up after one little mess up. i guess, it's just the constant reminders of what we should do and what we shouldn't do that got everyone riled up.

in the end, i'd hate for this place to go down because i'm stuck in school (for nearly the whole damn summer) away from home with absolutely nothing to do during my freetime. this place is my sanctuary from all the piece of crap school work i have to do. what started as a major WOOHOO EXCITEMENT thread has turned into a bloodbath. i'd like for it to go back to that.

it's a good mentality gajinblaze has. we should use it as a model.

[kowal]

delete

[SaBrE]

so apparently i may be behind the times on the law i admit. even tho half that shit dont make sense and as usual, open to interpretation and loopholes. but even so. like wizard said, its a lengthy process to prove that the user has a legitimate original. and im very sure about 98% of the users(98 is a very generous number) on srk, do not own a cps3 board. granted its all assumption. but when you bring this stuff onto the site. you put the owner of the site at risk, in this case wizard. and it should be respected.

mixah hits it right on the spot. nothing to do with our moral personal opinion on this, its just safety, first and foremost

either way, conversation is over. just repect the owner's wishes. his way or the highway. and im here to help enforce it

[Shade]

so apparently i may be behind the times on the law i admit. even tho half that shit dont make sense. but even so. like wizard said, its a lengthy process to prove that the user has a legitimate original. and im very sure about 98% of the users(98 is a very generous number) on srk, do not own a cps3 board. granted its all assumption. but when you bring this stuff onto the site. you put the owner of the site at risk, in this case wizard. and it should be respected.

either way, conversation is over. just repect the owner's wishes. his way or the highway. and im here to help enforce it

Heh. If this was stated from the outset as I suggested, instead of what happened (which is a direct result of you guys not being current with the emulation scene), this conversation would have indeed, been long over.

In the end, it comes full circle to what I said from the very beginning.

delete

[Acer1236]

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2226/51031364fo5.png
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2984/49352444bi5.png

So close.

[SaBrE]

Heh. If this was stated from the outset as I suggested, instead of what happened (which is a direct result of you guys not being current with the emulation scene), this conversation would have indeed, been long over.

In the end, it comes full circle to what I said from the very beginning.

wow, do you want a fucking cookie or something? do you need me or someone else to stroke your ego cuz you are partially right on the copyright law even tho it still doesnt really change anything? cuz thats how you are coming off cuz what the copyright law suggests still makes it very illegal to talk about it here. it doesnt even discuss the transfer of a copyrighted material from another person(or website for that matter).

its basically like how mixah put it.

the fact that im getting baited into your bs is aggravating me.

this subject is dropped. one more post on this subject and the thread is done

[Shodokan123]

Can anyone confirm that the mame romset for 3s is version A?

Also the new nebula is good, the main problem i have is the mad odd shit that goes on when supers happen... ESPECIALLY geni-jin.

They also need to fix the full screen bug where it slows down (fps wise) in full screen.

Edit: it is the asian rom set... might be version A because yang's SA2 = electric storm lol

[Rhythm1c]

yea, so


I forgot just how much I really liked sf3 second impact.


If 2i had Makoto I'd never play 3rd strike. I love the background art and music and the vibe that both of them seeme to make.

[caliagent#3]

just ban people if they can't follow rules. obviously people don't like being given a chance

[str[e]ak]

Edit: it is the asian rom set... might be version A because yang's SA2 = electric storm lol

LOL ELECTRIC STORM. HAHAHAHA :rofl:

[eko]

What do I... do if I get an error that say's.. Unable to load sf33.bin... is that some type of bio's.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

What do I... do if I get an error that say's.. Unable to load sf33.bin... is that some type of bio's.

lol man.....

[str[e]ak]

What do I... do if I get an error that say's.. Unable to load sf33.bin... is that some type of bio's.

......oh jeez. NO MORE TALKING! lol.

[eko]

NM... Fixed... LoL's Nikka's...

[GameCop]

Well, we made a video of the action, check it out:

YouTube Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdiGQRzq8Ck :smokin:

[SupraFist]

i'm guessing u don't read any of the previous post do u...?

[Toodles]

SFIII3 - 99/06/08 (older set is 99/05/12)
JoJo - 99/01/08 (older set is 98/12/02)

2 newer revisions have appeared and will (eventually) be supported as the parent sets.

(note, revisions aren’t region specific, they work with any region bios)
Looks like they found both the A and B versions of 3rd Strike. :)

[GameCop]

i'm guessing u don't read any of the previous post do u...?
No, I did .... I mentioned it's a "roundup post" and the latest news is on the bottom. Sorry if it seemed a bit redundant. *shrugs*

edit: I also pasted this from the original thread I made in Tech Talk because at first I didn't even notice you guys had a thread on CPS3.

[Rhythm1c]

No, I did .... I mentioned it's a "roundup post" and the latest news is on the bottom. Sorry if it seemed a bit redundant. *shrugs*

edit: I also pasted this from the original thread I made in Tech Talk because at first I didn't even notice you guys had a thread on CPS3.




The mods are having a fit with the whole emulation thing right now. so much as asking where to go to find the emulator and even how to get it working.


I would take the link to the site where it says "Download the emulator here" out before you get banned yo.
Recap post or not. I don't think the mods want that link in there. Heck one of them said you can't even post a "pm me for link" type of post here.

[GameCop]

The mods are having a fit with the whole emulation thing right now. so much as asking where to go to find the emulator and even how to get it working.


I would take the link to the site where it says "Download the emulator here" out before you get banned yo.
Recap post or not. I don't think the mods want that link in there. Heck one of them said you can't even post a "pm me for link" type of post here.
That's a shame ... well, I have complied and edited my post accordingly. Thanks for letting me know.

[Bob Poundmax]

To lighten the mood again

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=114927&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&vc=1

Haze's site is back up again but for how long is anyones guess.

[Numbski]

If I may, here was a law passed about a year and a half ago that might be construed as legalizing roms and emulators. I'll have to go dig it up, but it got the ESA (formerly IDSA) to back waaay the heck off of rom sites. Have to go do some research. Anyhoo, back to the fun stuff!

[codyk]

Regarding Shade / Sabre 's discussion of the law . . . if there's one thing I learned in law school, it's that just reading the statute is not enough.

For instance, 117(1) was intended to apply to copying software off of disk and into ram, a step thats required to use almost any software. There's a big leap from that to downloading CPSIII romsets that you didn't actually copy yourself . . .

Also note that the DMCA criminalizes the act of circumventing access controls (i.e. encryption), regardless of whether you own a copy.

I'm not trying to stir this up again, just saying that things aren't that simple: bottom line, to be safe you should ask a lawyer about your specific situation.

[ToyRobotTerror]

So we can talk about emulation but not about emulation? I´m confused and Finnish over here.

[Shodokan123]

Looks like they found both the A and B versions of 3rd Strike. :)

GOOD SHIT!... now to get the A version... <goes on treasure hunt>

[SFFanatic]

So we can talk about emulation but not about emulation? I´m confused and Finnish over here.

No you idiot, we can talk about Emulation, but not Emulation.

How fucking hard is that to understand?

[Shodokan123]

No you idiot, we can talk about Emulation, but not Emulation.

How fucking hard is that to understand?

lmfao

[str[e]ak]

No you idiot, we can talk about Emulation, but not Emulation.

How fucking hard is that to understand?

LOLLERSKATES.

[JackTenrac!]

No you idiot, we can talk about Emulation, but not Emulation.

How fucking hard is that to understand?


...that went well. LOL

[ParryAll]

The fact this shit is running on low spec machines is a godsend.

That could mean CPSIII emulation on the original Xbox!

Oh snap indeed.

[albert_c]

The fact this shit is running on low spec machines is a godsend.

That could mean CPSIII emulation on the original Xbox!

Oh snap indeed.

For real.:smokin:

[ToyRobotTerror]

STOP How dare you sink my battleship you insufferable bastard STOP

STOP signed admiral trt STOP

[DarkNecrid]

Yay Haze fixed the zoom problem :D

[TheOrgy]

Having a forum to talk about kaillera isn't promoting the use of illegal things? Why is it prohibited to talk about emulators and roms here then? I've seen a lot of people exchange rom and emulators information before on the mentioned forum.

And the nebula emu that runs it well is made by a guy named Elsemi, in a spanish forum, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know who Haze is.

[str[e]ak]

Having a forum to talk about kaillera isn't promoting the use of illegal things? Why is it prohibited to talk about emulators and roms here then? I've seen a lot of people exchange rom and emulators information before on the mentioned forum.

And the nebula emu that runs it well is made by a guy named Elsemi, in a spanish forum, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know who Haze is.

eh, don't egg on the mods, admins, etc. not a good idea.

haze is the guy who's doing the mame work for the cps3.

[Shodokan123]

haze fixed the pallets too... so the select screen is finished for all games now and such.

we could have a full emu by end of the weekend it seems at this rate... these two godsends must be working like... 20 hours a day on it

[aktham]

Holy crap people! You can talk about emulators and their progress. Just refrain from talking about *illegal* roms. Legal or not, the owner of the site asked you not post about *illegal*roms. Argue about legality somewhere else please. Most of us don't own the hardware :badboy:, but let's keep Mr.Wiz out of trouble.

I'm very pleased to hear that the emulators are coming along nicely. I can't wait to try Warzard and JoJos (never played them before).

[TheOrgy]

Ok sorry, I take back the part of "why is it prohibited to talk about emulators".

Well, the nebula emulator just needs kaillera function and it's done for me... the emulator author said that he won't include any functions like those until the emulator is complete though.

[albert_c]

Holy crap people! You can talk about emulators and their progress. Just refrain from talking about *illegal* roms. Legal or not, the owner of the site asked you not post about *illegal*roms. Argue about legality somewhere else please. Most of us don't own the hardware :badboy:, but let's keep Mr.Wiz out of trouble.


BINGO!

[str[e]ak]

haze fixed the pallets too... so the select screen is finished for all games now and such.

we could have a full emu by end of the weekend it seems at this rate... these two godsends must be working like... 20 hours a day on it

:tup: woooohooooo! can't wait. and yeah, those two are insane. it's like they don't sleep at all.

[kenny99208]

I want online play.

[MaybeMemories]

has haze released an emulator ? or hve nebula just used his source code or whats what ?

Haze updated, seemingly 3S color palettes/ etc are corrected
http://haze.mameworld.info/2007/06/21/cps3-palettes/

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I want online play.

look harder.

[Shodokan123]

look harder.

mame has online play.. lol

[Dragonfave723]

mame has online play.. lol

I don't think Haze's emu would include netplay, or am i'm wrong?

[Shodokan123]

I don't think Haze's emu would include netplay, or am i'm wrong?

there is a mam32k that was updated with his code so u can use kaillera.

[Overworld]

So between both emus which do you think is further along? It always looked from progress that ElSemi's was closer.

Anyhow I knew once the ball started rolling they'd pick up speed, but who knew it'd go this quickly?

[JackTenrac!]

I want online play.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=4034792#post4034792

...this will go well.

[Shodokan123]

So between both emus which do you think is further along? It always looked from progress that ElSemi's was closer.

Anyhow I knew once the ball started rolling they'd pick up speed, but who knew it'd go this quickly?

elsemi is closer, but with no net play

haze is RIGHT behind and fixed the pallets for all his coding... which might make his emu better.

[Demon Dash]

So CPS-III is finnally getting emulated? This is awesome...

[Desk]

The fact this shit is running on low spec machines is a godsend.

That could mean CPSIII emulation on the original Xbox!

Oh snap indeed.

I didn't even think about that... that would be so fucking good!!! Is the xbox horsepowere the only thing that might stop this happening?

[Overworld]

ElSemi said something along the lines of not thinking it'd work on the Xbox. At least his emu.

[kenny99208]

Is online play available yet fir CPS3?

[Demon Dash]

I'm so suprised at how fast they're doing this, I can't wait till it's fully emulated... Warzard, here I come...

[Emil]

Is online play available yet fir CPS3?

Yes it's available...I get desyncs though. I was told it had something to do with emulinker, is this true?

[Taiki]

elsemi is closer, but with no net play

haze is RIGHT behind and fixed the pallets for all his coding... which might make his emu better.

ElSemi is closer, but he's using DirectX-specific tricks and so forth to do graphics work, etc.

Whereas Haze is doing full system emulation in code alone. This is why ElSemi's emulator looks nearly correct(I don't want to say 100%, but I can't tell the diff), but crashes and Haze's build could be rebuilt into any number of MAME source trees.

[Hol Horse]

tried with nebula's emu
aside from graphic glitches the game looks pretty and is quite playable

but the speed it's off, it's too fast (faster than ps2/xbox which is faster than arcade)

[Shodokan123]

tried with nebula's emu
aside from graphic glitches the game looks pretty and is quite playable

but the speed it's off, it's too fast (faster than ps2/xbox which is faster than arcade)

yea, noticed that too

[gl0ry]

online works, but most people have bad computers and it runs bad. I played with chemistren for hours last night although in really ugly graphics. Connection wasnt bad.

As for the speed. I felt the same way I didn't know if it was just me or if the game was actually faster on nebula.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

try lowering the frameskip. numpad -

[TheOrgy]

Elsemi's emulator runs perfectly on my 700mhz P3 with 356 of ram. It just needs online.

[MaybeMemories]

multi version of nebula runs flawless on my Pentium D 3.0 Ghz. 1GB Ram.

question: which is Elsemi's emulator?

[Demon Dash]

Elsemi's emulator runs perfectly on my 700mhz P3 with 356 of ram. It just needs online.
Your user name is so apropriate right now...

[Shodokan123]

try lowering the frameskip. numpad -

even when u put it to zero it is still too much

multi version of nebula runs flawless on my Pentium D 3.0 Ghz. 1GB Ram.

question: which is Elsemi's emulator?

nebula

[jswey]

would anyone mind explaining how to get the netplay to work? Thanks

[EveryFlowerFlow]

even when u put it to zero it is still too much




auto?

[iMPULSZE]

So I know its still early in development, but have the coders talked at all about FBA compatibility down the line?

[TheOrgy]

The guys that have old computers are going to have to stay with this one, because it runs well with low system requirements and occupies little resources.

Edit: ElSemi has given one more step forward, the character select screen palettes and the zooms are corrected, third strike runs perfectly now. Also, Warzard and Jojo work well. Warzard doesn't hang up anymore.

http://www.speksnk.org/foro/viewtopic.php?t=66324&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[caliagent#3]

Yes it's available...I get desyncs though. I was told it had something to do with emulinker, is this true?

It has nothing to do with emulinker and there is a way to prevent the desynchs.

[Hol Horse]

auto?

no frameskip option gives the right speed, with any setting everything goes faster than it should

[Demon Dash]

I still can't believe it's finnally being emulated... Why has it took so long? And how have results been shown so quickly?

[Overworld]

I wonder, after this, what arcade boards out there are left to emulate?

[SFFanatic]

I wonder, after this, what arcade boards out there are left to emulate?

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=809

[kenny99208]

Is Mame online yet?

[sonicsnake]

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=809

That would be so awesome! Having a chance to play Ketsui without paying hundreds of dollars for the PCB. Not to mention a supergun or an arcade cab.

But wait a sec.. It would be then illegal. :crybaby:

[MaybeMemories]

The guys that have old computers are going to have to stay with this one, because it runs well with low system requirements and occupies little resources.

Edit: ElSemi has given one more step forward, the character select screen palettes and the zooms are corrected, third strike runs perfectly now. Also, Warzard and Jojo work well. Warzard doesn't hang up anymore.

http://www.speksnk.org/foro/viewtopic.php?t=66324&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

amazing, he hasnt released it yet has he?

[Spoonz]

i think haze has released the source code for his latest build.

[Mixah]

Is Mame online yet?

welcome to a decade ago..

[TheOrgy]

amazing, he hasnt released it yet has he?

With the latest changes, no.

[MaybeMemories]

ok thanks man, i guess were all gonna have to wait for haze for online play BUT well done to both, such a fast progress.

[Fallback]

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=809

That's emulated via nebula already.

[Rhythm1c]

I wonder, after this, what arcade boards out there are left to emulate?



Naomi?
CVS and MVC2 ftw

[Overworld]

Eh DC emulation is close enough to Noami emulation, hehe.

[Shodokan123]

Naomi?
CVS and MVC2 ftw

forgetting GG

[TheOrgy]

And Atomiswave, KOF XI, the topest of the top.

[str[e]ak]

i think haze has released the source code for his latest build.

as exciting as the step-by-step releases are, i just want it finished. i'm itching in the pants. :cool:

anyone know what the source code is written in?

[Shade]

I wonder, after this, what arcade boards out there are left to emulate?

Atomisware
Taito Type X
System 246
Naomi
NeoGeo Hyper 64
PGM HARDWARE (Spectral Vs. Generation) The Hardware's already emulated. SvG just needs decryption.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

ak;4036292']as exciting as the step-by-step releases are, i just want it finished. i'm itching in the pants. :cool:

anyone know what the source code is written in?


C I believe

[SFFanatic]

That's emulated via nebula already.

Only certain games work with that though, like that 2d Dynasty Warriors game.

[Ali M]

The graphic and animations run pretty damn smooth in 2nd Impact and in New Generation...

btw... god damn 2nd impact Sean is broken as fuck... lolz

[Mixah]

what makes him so broke?

[SFFanatic]

what makes him so broke?

He's a nigga

[Ali M]

He's a nigga

Word...

[EveryFlowerFlow]

haze has released his NEW code.

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=115073&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

[str[e]ak]

haze has released his NEW code.

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=115073&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

go mame team!

[Shade]

Waiting for someone else to compile the code. Lol, I cant do nothin' with that.

[Taiki]

Atomisware
Taito Type X
System 246
Naomi
NeoGeo Hyper 64
PGM HARDWARE (Spectral Vs. Generation) The Hardware's already emulated. SvG just needs decryption.

Hyper NeoGeo 64 is in progress.

(See: http://youtube.com/watch?v=149p5RhgRXU)

Taito Type X is just a matter of breaking the USB dongle encryption. It probably will never be emulated in MAME since it requires a Windows install in addition to the game data(or it'd require a HUEG CHD). BeatmaniaIIDX since 9th style was similar, until someone released the HDD images and figured out how to bypass Konami's usb dongle protection.

But yeah, Naomi, System 246, and proper PGM support is what' sleft. And Model 2/Model 3.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/73k1ny

[GameCop]

Okay, it seems like it's okay to post emulator links again here. If I'm breaking rules, I'll remove the links ASAP.

0.116u2a - CPS3 build with current Haze code

»» http://mame32qa.classicgaming.gamespy.com/

And now what many fighting game fanatics have been waiting for ...

Here's a build with UNOFFICIAL Kaillera Support:

»» Mame Plus Plus (http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mameppk_bin_gcc-0.116u1-20070620.7z) (this is version 0.116u1)

Please Note: The MAME team HATES Kaillera builds ... so don't ask them for any support regarding the use of these builds! If you have any questions, ask them here.

More information: http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22442

[-=KOH=-]

So whats up with the frame rate on mame32, It's a lot slower compared to Nebula, is this because of speed hacks or something?

[Stellarola]

That haze build is coming along nicely. The sprites look damn near 100%, just needs work on the zoom and backgrounds and some other stuff. Great work.

[Shade]

Okay, it seems like it's okay to post emulator links again here. If I'm breaking rules, I'll remove the links ASAP.

0.116u2a - CPS3 build with current Haze code

»» http://mame32qa.classicgaming.gamespy.com/

And now what many fighting game fanatics have been waiting for ...

Here's a build with UNOFFICIAL Kaillera Support:

»» Mame Plus Plus (http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mameppk_bin_gcc-0.116u1-20070620.7z) (this is version 0.116u1)

Please Note: The MAME team HATES Kaillera builds ... so don't ask them for any support regarding the use of these builds! If you have any questions, ask them here.

More information: http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22442

Awesome, thx.

-=KOH=-: May be your settings. Frame rate's flawless, with me.

[Gaijinblaze]

So whats up with the frame rate on mame32, It's a lot slower compared to Nebula, is this because of speed hacks or something?
The most recent MAME has perfect sprites now for 3S (some other graphical problems are still apparent), but at first it ran quite slow with a lot of audio stuttering that matched with the slowdown. Later on, it sped up and ran at the proper speed, so I'm really not sure if it's the emulator's fault, or my/our computers.

It's also missing those graphic filter options that the 0.116u2 before it had.

[-=KOH=-]

Awesome, thx.

-=KOH=-: May be your settings. Frame rate's flawless, with me.

Should it be in Direct3d, I have 3ghz pentium, 512 ram, on board gfx, nebula ran perfect though if thats an indicator.

[N i n j a]

Yeah I"m not sure if its the emu too or my computer...Great work though...

[MaybeMemories]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/73k1ny

thanks man, is that new hazes source.. in mame?

[EveryFlowerFlow]

thanks man, is that new hazes source.. in mame?

yep.

[VeiL0]

anyone able to use kaillera in conjunction with 3s on Mame yet?

[Ryu1999]

The newest Haze build just crashes after the "type ok to continue" screen :bluu:

Edit: nvm, the one I downloaded from Rocklee's link worked, unlike the one I dl'd from the official mame32 page

[Mixah]

shit's the sex.

[str[e]ak]

haze has released his NEW code.

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=115073&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

thank you; you answered my prayers. lol. i can't do anything with stuff in C. i only know how to program in java (a little bit).

[edit]

omg, this is pure sex. can't wait until it's all done.

[DarkNecrid]

MAME32++ updated its build to include Haze's new code so dont even worry about compiling it!

[MaybeMemories]

background sprites are a bit off, sounds bit off, some slow downs, zooming still not done, flickering at versus screen. not complainging just current status of hazes progress,
the sprites for characters and character select screen are fixed.

[Emil]

Why do I see no improvements in the sprites when I use the u2 version? It's the same whacked colors, what are you guys talking about?

The only fix I saw that stood out was that I can actually see what super art I'm selecting before the match starts...

[Demon Dash]

I find it amasing how CPS-III gets decrypted around the same time Capcom anounce 3S for PC.

[Hol Horse]

mame is also a bit too fast (at least with 3s)

maybe the cps3 chipset is slower/has less MHz's than the emu programmers think.

[DarkNecrid]

Emil:

Use this:
http://mame.emu-zone.org/

No netplay, but you can see how it will be with netplay.

[Mixah]

I find it amasing how CPS-III gets decrypted around the same time Capcom anounce 3S for PC.

shit always happens that way.

lol

[Spoonz]

they announced it for pc ??? link to news plz :D

[Dragonfave723]

I find it amasing how CPS-III gets decrypted around the same time Capcom anounce 3S for PC.

Post the source, or else, I say "bullshiat". :yawn:

[Shodokan123]

Post the source, or else, I say "bullshiat". :yawn:

they better make it arcade perfect then, otherwise it wont sell well with CPS3 cracked... so it better be an EXACT port of the japanese 3s with the arcade frames/speed in tact.

also yes, post source...

[Demon Dash]

Post the source, or else, I say "bullshiat". :yawn:
I shit you not... It hasn't been officially "anounced" anounced, but the indication is there...


http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=128584&highlight=online+center

[Shodokan123]

I shit you not...

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=128584&highlight=online+center

interesting...wonderin if it will support joysticks? will it play online like through browser or will you DL the games?

[Emil]

Ok I downloaded that u2 emulator and now it works...maybe the one I was given wasn't the same one, but it was clearly named "u2" as well.

So yeah, the sprites and most of the other things look perfect.

[Demon Dash]

Yeah, I just find it funny how Capcom are planning 3S for net play and now people are working on CPS-III net play... Kind of crazy when you think about it...

I'm getting an error with the stand alone emu saying "unable to initalise video subsystem." Does anyone know what this means?

[B_IzM]

Now that CPS3 has been cracked, It's great news and all, but what I'm wondering now is how soon can we start see CPS3 carts being revived and phoenixed.

If my memory serves correct, it took Razoola around a year or two after CPS2 was emulated to release his phoenix chip, so I'm wondering how far are we from that happening to CPS3?

I have 3 dead 3rd Strike carts and I'm hoping for those bad boys to see the light of day once more.

[Capcom Killah]

Edited for Content

[polarity]

this is great but i'm still holding out for the capcom release in the hopes that itll have poporu-quality online

kaillera is good if you play with people on private servers on LAN/excellent and all, but i dont know anyone in the uk who does that. with poporu i can play americans lag-free :I

[MaybeMemories]

theres no info on that stupid page and it sounds like its gonna be a PAID subscription type thing, for japan.

[JackTenrac!]

There was a thread in FGD about it. Says that if you're a non-JAP Fighter:prepare for...

mortal discombat.

[Demon Dash]

So with the MAME emu do you need to create a CPS3 folder? I keep getting errors...

[youngcipher]

My mame reads all my other games excpet the cps-3 ones. ( I'm using the u2 version ).

[Overworld]

Sorry, as per mod mandate no one can help you to get the emulator to work.

[DVD:madZ]

Damn, the mame one keeps skipping and is running hella slow on my comp. Guess my computer is too crappy to run cps3 on mame, gotta wait for some speedhacked one or something =(

[str[e]ak]

My mame reads all my other games excpet the cps-3 ones. ( I'm using the u2 version ).

Sorry, as per mod mandate no one can help you to get the emulator to work.

yeah, dude. you're on your own. advice: go look it up somewhere on the web.

[youngcipher]

Sorry, as per mod mandate no one can help you to get the emulator to work.

Ok no problem.

[shoo]

If anyone sees anything breaking the rules
pm me, its hard to keep track of this thread considering i dont look at it much

but i will try to speculate it as much as possible

[albert_c]

Capcom Killah, delete your post before you get banned.

[Hol Horse]

question - if a Linux version of the emu gets worked, will I be able to play cps3 games on ps3? and on a hdtv without any lag? that would be pretty amazing :D

~

Mame lists a ton of dipswitches, I hope someone finds their use. If the correct combination of dipswitches makes the emu show 3s hitboxes I'll be in heaven

[kev_the_bev]

what's the best emulator for sf3 with kaillera?

[Hol Horse]

they're all in beta stage, emulation is not accurate (too fast, unconsistent speed, glicthes, occasional crashes.). I wouldn't recoomend playing it on kaillera as it is now unless you're not having competition for like a year and you're desperate to play someone

[Mikhal]

question - if a Linux version of the emu gets worked, will I be able to play cps3 games on ps3? and on a hdtv without any lag? that would be pretty amazing :D


No clue about PS3, but CPS3 works on Linux already. You just need to compile the SDLMAME source code and use Haze's updated CPS3 drivers. It ran well on my machine using Ubuntu.

[suleman]

Sucks I can't get the DOA4 stick recognized by these new mames. Urien unblockables going to be annoying as heck and maybe even impossible with the keyboard buffer depending on which side i'm facing. Guess I'll be patieent.

[Overworld]

There are workarounds for controllers that aren't being recognized. I'm just way of saying now, lol.

Seems like the race is on NullDC versus CPS3 emulators, the first to kaillera wins. (well the first there with a fully playable product.)

[suleman]

Tried joy2key; it reads my joystick and the inputs work in notepad, but it stiilll doesn't work in the emulator.

[GameCop]

Again... If I'm breaking rules, I'll remove the links ASAP.
-------------------

Lots more updates to CPS3 today... including an updated release of ElSemi's emulator!

I’ve come up with a preliminary implementation of Full-screen zoom, used pretty heavily by JoJo and Warzard.

Right now the code assumes that the view will never be zoomed more than twice the normal visible area away, as it’s a framebuffer zoom I’d expect there to be some sensible limit in hardware such as this, although testing on the real hardware would be good.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3462/jojofsz1ku5.png
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7779/jojofsz2ib0.th.png (http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jojofsz2ib0.png)http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2695/warzardfsz1dw7.th.png (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warzardfsz1dw7.png)http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1909/warzardfsz2iy0.th.png (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warzardfsz2iy0.png)

Test source code can be found at http://haze.mameworld.info/misc/cps3_220607_fsz.zip Again I’m not posting binaries.

Note, I haven’t managed to fix the reported crash in SFIII NG, I’m looking into it now.
»» http://haze.mameworld.info/

ElSemi's CPS3 Emulator Preview 2 Test Version
This is a preview version of my CPS3 emulator. Here you
can see the current work-in-progress state of the emulation.

I've fixed some problems in the emulation:
Color palettes seem right now
Fullscreen Zoom
Sprite Zoom
Linescroll

The priorities have improved but they aren't fully right yet (mainly in jojo games).
Shadow/alpha is still missing.
Linezoom is missing, but I haven't found a single place where it's used.
Sean stage in sf3ng doesn't crash now, but shows garbage in the bg.

I've added an entry to the ini so you can switch the region (except for
warzard that it won't boot unless region is Asia)

I've also tried to fix some problems that people were having with
some old and integrated graphics chipsets. Probably some problems
have been fixed, but there might still be some around.
You can now also try to fix the renderer to the vsync of your monitor
with an option in the ini file (ForceSync).

* CPS3 Emulator Test Version. This package includes both the normal and MultiCPU versions exes.
If you have graphics problems and are using the MultiCPU version, try with the standard version
»» http://nebula.emulatronia.com/

MAME32 Plus! updated with new code to .116u2a
2007-6-22

* updated CPS3 driver cps3_220607_fsz.zip [Haze]
* speed up GUI rom audit routines [regret]
»» http://mame.emu-zone.org/

[Shade]

Fucking fantastic. Final stages, indeed. We are nearing perfect emulation status.

[Overworld]

It's cool that they are sharing info with each other, DS emulation was progressing very slowly at first because no one wanted to share any info.

[GameCop]

It's cool that they are sharing info with each other, DS emulation was progressing very slowly at first because no one wanted to share any info.
That's the MAME team for ya! :clap:

[Dragonfave723]

Haze and ELSemi, the dynamic duo of CPS3. :clap::rock:

[elvis_a_presley]

That's the MAME team for ya! :clap:

Not all of them. Haze writes a lot of drivers for the RAINE emulator which is 100% GPL. While some of the MAME team seem hell bent on not sharing anything with anyone, there are the odd few who go out of their way to give knowledge away in spades.

[Overworld]

Well for those in doubt, the way the latest FAQ for ElSemi's CPS3 emulator goes, it's written in a way that implies there will be kaillera in the future.

Since in the faq there is a question about kaillera, and it just says this preview build doesn't have that. Which at least somewhat implies that it will be in the final version. (It's a least better than stuff I've heard about it not going to be implemented.)

Also tried ElSemi's emu out myself, and well, it's nearly perfect.

[HP87]

This is amazing indeed. I've been playing 3rd strike on my POS computer for the past few hours. Its running real smoothly except for graphical problems in the background and character portraits on the select screen. A week ago I didn't think it would even be possible. 2007 is a good year definitely.

[Ferdinandz]

This is amazing indeed. I've been playing 3rd strike on my POS computer for the past few hours. Its running real smoothly except for graphical problems in the background and character portraits on the select screen. A week ago I didn't think it would even be possible. 2007 is a good year definitely.

Same here, been playing 3S nonstop :D

nvm

[albert_c]

Who unstickied this? This is important shit.

[str[e]ak]

Who unstickied this? This is important shit.

seriously. everyone wants to be updated on what's going on.

[shoo]

Who unstickied this? This is important shit.

ak;4038965']seriously. everyone wants to be updated on what's going on.


oh fine
*re-stickied*

too many stickies D:
<3

[-=KOH=-]

Just waiting on that Plus plus, we need some kaillera support. =)

[Stellarola]

This Nebula Test 2 is working really well. Most of the stages backgrounds seem to be at 100% or almost. I'm glad they fixed the zoom and such. I'd say so far the emulation is about 80% complete in Nebula. Great shiz. :lovin::lovin:

[Shodokan123]

This Nebula Test 2 is working really well. Most of the stages backgrounds seem to be at 100% or almost. I'm glad they fixed the zoom and such. I'd say so far the emulation is about 80% complete in Nebula. Great shiz. :lovin::lovin:

it runs really slow now though on my 2 gz 12 ram comp... before it was too fast lol

[DVD:madZ]

Any chance that the nebula release will support netplay?

[TheOrgy]

It's not really nebula... it's an emulator with no name, it doesn't say nebula anywhere... that's why I just call it ElSemi's emulator. In fact there's a poll in the forum where they ask should it become an independent emulator or part of nebula? and the majority of the people said independent emulator...

Edit: I think it will, at least that's what I'm pushing for... I asked personally if he could include it and see the way of reducing the desyncs.

[Dragonfave723]

This Nebula Test 2 is working really well. Most of the stages backgrounds seem to be at 100% or almost. I'm glad they fixed the zoom and such. I'd say so far the emulation is about 80% complete in Nebula. Great shiz. :lovin::lovin:

Have you noticed Ken's 3rdS stage is mostly black on that emulator? :xeye:

[Xorcist]

What's going to be really weird is seeing the MAME Plus! Plus! Kaillera plastered all over the servers instead of MAME32k 0.64. :)

[TheOrgy]

If you guys could help to push for the soon inclusion of kaillera in the forum of ElSemi's emulator posting "I want kaillera in the emulator" you'd really help.

[Overworld]

I would going to but it seems the forums are down or something...I'll try again later.


EDIT: Okay, I posted and said that I hoped kaillera made it into the final version.

[SlipStream_LDN]

Warzard/Red Earth is totally playable now on the current build of Elsemi's CPSIII emulator, no more crashing after beating Hauzer........Awesome stuff!!

[Gaijinblaze]

Here's something odd. While everything in Elsemi's newer build is better graphically, the sprites in 3S are lower on the screen. If you look at the shadows, they protrude into the super bars whereas they didn't before. They're just supposed to graze the top of the meters.

[GameCop]

Not all of them. Haze writes a lot of drivers for the RAINE emulator which is 100% GPL. While some of the MAME team seem hell bent on not sharing anything with anyone, there are the odd few who go out of their way to give knowledge away in spades.
Very true ... sometimes my imagination seems a lot more satisfying than reality. :xeye:

[MaybeMemories]

lets the guy work on the emulator then ask for features, such as netplay. No point making him waste time in adding netplay feature on "80%" emulated rom.

[Overworld]

Have you noticed Ken's 3rdS stage is mostly black on that emulator? :xeye:

It showed up fine on mine.

lets the guy work on the emulator then ask for features, such as netplay. No point making him waste time in adding netplay feature on "80%" emulated rom.

Oh yeah I only said I hope he puts it in the final version. I didn't demand it now or anything.

Oh and is just me or Warzard a tough game? lol. I get grabbed and there goes like half of my health.

[SlipStream_LDN]

Oh and is just me or Warzard a tough game? lol. I get grabbed and there goes like half of my health.

You're tellin' me.......Some of the moves the enemy have are so unfair and extremely damaging, I did manage to complete it eventully though. I really do need to get some form of a controller hooked up to this shit otherwise the symptoms of RSI are really gonna kick in LoL!!

Fighting games using a keyboard do not mix :rofl:

[TheOrgy]

If someone is going to ask for it from now on do it on this thread: http://www.speksnk.org/foro/viewtopic.php?t=66402&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 , the old one will be closed.

[Dragonfave723]

It showed up fine on mine.


Well, here are the screenshots. I wonder how I got this?:

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2723/3rdskenstagevu1.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3rdskenstagevu1.jpg)http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5654/3rdskenstage2dy3.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3rdskenstage2dy3.jpg)

[DaveNotti]

I love it, works perfectly...3rd Strike that is, haven't tried any others...

[DaveNotti]

ROFLMAO @ Giant Attack voices...AHAHAH @ Yun

Zaatahcahndahmahn!

roflmaoooo

[Acer1236]

Does anyone know if 3s is at the right speed on either MAME or Nebula? I can't tell unfortunately. :sad:

[Gaijinblaze]

Does anyone know if 3s is at the right speed on either MAME or Nebula? I can't tell unfortunately. :sad:
Both Elsemi emulators run 3S at what appears to be the proper speed. The MAME++ emus (0.116u2a and u2b) each run at the correct speed also, but there are sometimes lengthy periods of slowdown. But at this time I think it's my computer doing that. For me, none of them have run 3S faster than normal at any point. I'm basing this off the fact that I play the arcade version ~weekly, I dunno if there's a technical way of determining this.

Would formatting my computer make these emulators run better? It's a 3.0 GHz P4, 512 MB RAM, Geforce FX 5200 (don't laugh, it came with it). The fact that the MAMEs have some slowdown bothers me because I like using the SuperScale 75% scanlines filter.

[Johneh]

While we're posting screen shots:

ImageShack - Hosting :: cps3yv5.jpg (http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cps3yv5.jpg) click on it to get rid of the weird red lines, that's it on my screens actual resolution. I could easily use that as a wallpaper it's so pretty. :)

But yeah, Mame32+ 0.116u2 FTW.

[ReXXXSoprano]

This is a big step I have to admit. I finally got to play Warzard/Red Earth. If this can be done then maybe Tekken, Soul Blade, Sonic the Fighters or Final Fight Revenge can be emulated too. A big shout out to those guys. Once that netplay gets proper, the whole scene is gonna shift. And it was worth the wait. This is some nastiness. Once its fully emulated. Its gonna be on, most definately.

[Overworld]

Well, here are the screenshots. I wonder how I got this?:

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2723/3rdskenstagevu1.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3rdskenstagevu1.jpg)http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5654/3rdskenstage2dy3.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3rdskenstage2dy3.jpg)

Huh, actually when I played it this time, I had the background for a moment and it went away when the match started. So I dunno.

Both Elsemi emulators run 3S at what appears to be the proper speed. The MAME++ emus (0.116u2a and u2b) each run at the correct speed also, but there are sometimes lengthy periods of slowdown. But at this time I think it's my computer doing that. For me, none of them have run 3S faster than normal at any point. I'm basing this off the fact that I play the arcade version ~weekly, I dunno if there's a technical way of determining this.

Would formatting my computer make these emulators run better? It's a 3.0 GHz P4, 512 MB RAM, Geforce FX 5200 (don't laugh, it came with it). The fact that the MAMEs have some slowdown bothers me because I like using the SuperScale 75% scanlines filter.

Okay, since this isn't about getting a rom to play in the emulator or getting the roms, or getting the emulator to work (just tweaking the already working emulator), I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to answer this. Since really this can be a generic emulator question. If I am wrong, I'll delete/edit this post to comply with the rules.

Various things you can do to lessen the chance of slowdowns in emulators:

1.) Kill all processes you don't need while playing. (ctrl alt del, then get rid of stuff you know you don't need currently, what those things are, well it's hard to tell, mess around with a bit and if everything keeps running, your still good, lol.)
2.) Run the emulator windowed.
3.) Try messing around with the various graphics options, sometimes you can be asking your card to do something it doesn't like. (So it *may* run faster without the scanlines, who knows.)

Also, which emulator are you trying? For lower end systems ElSemi's emulator iis probably better, since MAME comes with a lot of bloat for supporting everything it does. (Also it doesn't take advantage of computer hardware as much, as they are trying to stay true to the limitations of the things being emulated.)

[tolkien]

2.) Run the emulator windowed.

Runs faster for me in fullscreen

[Shade]

This is a big step I have to admit. I finally got to play Warzard/Red Earth. If this can be done then maybe Tekken, Soul Blade, Sonic the Fighters or Final Fight Revenge can be emulated too. A big shout out to those guys. Once that netplay gets proper, the whole scene is gonna shift. And it was worth the wait. This is some nastiness. Once its fully emulated. Its gonna be on, most definately.

All of those sans FFR, has already been emulated to my knowlegde. Sonic the Fighter is awesome, too. Metal Sonic all day, baby.

[LeRaldo]

Runs faster for me in fullscreen

Yep, it's more demanding to run it windowed, compared to full screen.

[-=KOH=-]

I just hope that Elsemi's emu gets kaillera support because my laptop cannot handle the pure awesomeness that is mame, but runs like butter in the test emu.

[Gaijinblaze]

Okay, since this isn't about getting a rom to play in the emulator or getting the roms, or getting the emulator to work (just tweaking the already working emulator), I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to answer this. Since really this can be a generic emulator question. If I am wrong, I'll delete/edit this post to comply with the rules.

Various things you can do to lessen the chance of slowdowns in emulators:

1.) Kill all processes you don't need while playing. (ctrl alt del, then get rid of stuff you know you don't need currently, what those things are, well it's hard to tell, mess around with a bit and if everything keeps running, your still good, lol.)
2.) Run the emulator windowed.
3.) Try messing around with the various graphics options, sometimes you can be asking your card to do something it doesn't like. (So it *may* run faster without the scanlines, who knows.)

Also, which emulator are you trying? For lower end systems ElSemi's emulator iis probably better, since MAME comes with a lot of bloat for supporting everything it does. (Also it doesn't take advantage of computer hardware as much, as they are trying to stay true to the limitations of the things being emulated.)

Oh boy, I actually did try that earlier today and bad things happened. It started giving me errors about how I no longer had the right audio drivers or something, and none of the emulators worked, as well as music/videos. Once I restarted everything was fine again. All the other stuff in the processes list looked too important to delete so I didn't wanna take a chance.

And yeah as a heads up, the graphics filter options do affect the speed of the game. It's best with nothing (perfect ~80% of the time for me), then scanlined one is good (perfect ~60%), the rest slow it down more to varying degrees. Has anyone tried changing any of the settings in the "default game options" tabs? If so, does it help?

[-=KOH=-]

snap

The game runs at a solid "/sarcasm" 80% with every configuration that would seemingly help performance, Including the things in The Default Options tab, mind you i'm on a Laptop with 3 ghz, 512 ram, and an on board video card.

[Overworld]

Hmm, game runs full speed for me either way...

Sorry, I dunno what else to add.

[tsoteddy]

Well i just made mine work today thanks to a friend here is a pic of my work in progress and i have no lag (well only at the start just for a couple of seconds and the n it runs flawless), sound? i say 8/10 but everything syncs in perfect and i have no trouble at all with pad adjustments.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9347/nebulaworkfg7.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nebulaworkfg7.jpg)

[-=KOH=-]

Elsemi's emulator runs flawlessly for me as well, I'm just wondering about Mame, which takes 320 megs of ram for me, and about 50 for a friend of mine on IRC, is there a memory leak or something?

[tsoteddy]

I'm also running Street Fighter 3: New generation and Also 2nd Impact flawlessly.

[BigGoki]

On MamePlusPlus with Haze's code implemented, I get it working fine except for the colours.... The background is fine but the characters' colours are all messed up, and also when changing screens (eg. from character select screen to super art select), the screen goes out of position so I cant see what super art I am selecting.

Here is a screenshot of what it looks like for me:

http://www.realimagehost.com/uploads/15d7779c4d.jpg

[Gaijinblaze]

Looks like you need to update MAME with the newer Plus build.

http://mame.emu-zone.org/

I had the negative-like sprites with the version before that one so I'm assuming it's the same for you. It also rids of those numbers at the bottom. And plz put the link instead of the full pic. :wasted:

PS. After trying out those video configurations, they suck. Direct3D with bilinear filtering (ie. the default) was the only one that looked remotely decent, and the others don't seem to improve performance either.

[DarkNecrid]

^He said PlusPlus, not Plus.

[kenny99208]

When you do you think everything will be 95%-100% complete, including online play?

[DarkNecrid]

Uh...whenever MAME++ team releases it. Should be a day or two.

[Endless]

Ok, I got 3S working with the Test 2 emulator
So far, completely playable, but about 80%-90% speed
It's a bit slow a bit every once in a while, but not choppy

On my Dell 600M laptop
1.7 GHz
512 RAM
Crappy video card

I know a lot of us are jumping the gun a bit, I didn't expect it to be working so soon.
Anyhow, what do you guys think are causing the graphic glitches?
Also, is there any way to adjust graphics?

So far, excellent work. EXTREMELY impressed. This really made my week.

edit: 2nd Impact plays at 100% speed for me. Graphic glitches on Yun's stage
Urien's laugh in 2nd Impact = lose

[BigGoki]

Sorry about the pic.
But yeah... I am using plus plus.

Does anyone else using plus plus have this problem?

[Dragonfave723]

Folks, if you want to post screenshots, do it in thumbnail format. It would make this thread look less cluttered and more organized.

[MaybeMemories]

I experienced a slow down when i got an IM on MSN, so best to close all programs [not ending obscure process'] just close your browser/MediaPlayers etc.
Try it then, FULL SCREEN usually requires less memory than windowed, but this was always the case for MAME etc, the likes of FBA and other GUI heavy emulators seemed to work better other way around.

you could format your pc, and it would make a difference but honestly, best wait it out until a proper stable release.

P.S: people that say it runs flawless etc etc, i assume they mean with the known graphical glitches?

[SlipStream_LDN]

Sorry about the pic.
But yeah... I am using plus plus.

Does anyone else using plus plus have this problem?

I'm trying out all the emulators at the moment and yeah I got exactly the same problem with MAME++ and Haze's emulator aswell. MAME32 works fine except for a couple of flickering issues but I reckon it's just as good as Elsemi's which I tend to use mostly........

[ReXXXSoprano]

All of those sans FFR, has already been emulated to my knowlegde. Sonic the Fighter is awesome, too. Metal Sonic all day, baby.

What I meant to imply that if this can happen maybe games like that can be perfectly emulated. 60, Sound, and everything else.

[str[e]ak]

I experienced a slow down when i got an IM on MSN, so best to close all programs [not ending obscure process'] just close your browser/MediaPlayers etc.
Try it then, FULL SCREEN usually requires less memory than windowed, but this was always the case for MAME etc, the likes of FBA and other GUI heavy emulators seemed to work better other way around.

you could format your pc, and it would make a difference but honestly, best wait it out until a proper stable release.

P.S: people that say it runs flawless etc etc, i assume they mean with the known graphical glitches?

well, for me, new generation and second impact run flawless with some graphical glitches in yun's stage and elena's stage. (those are the two major ones)

[Overworld]

Yeah same here, flawless with some graphical glitches in Second Impact. Elena's stage is the only one I recall, and it's not a big one.

[MaybeMemories]

does joysticks work with nebula? mine wont be recognised? i have usb to ps2 adaptor. works with windows, no nebula :(

[Taiki]

What

Should work. Mine works with the ElSemi CPS3 emu.

[kenny99208]

Does mame + + have online play yet?

[MaybeMemories]

just tryed nebula test 2, flawless on 2nd impact etc etc, is this case with the 2nd release of mame aswell?

it doesnt pick up my joystick, i double click a key and press stuff on joystick but no avail :(

[kenny99208]

Anyone know how to set up a controller in Mame + +?

[Dragonfave723]

Anyone know how to set up a controller in Mame + +?

MAME -> Default Games Option -> Controllers

To configure buttons, start the game, then hit "Tab" -> "Input (this game)"

[Johneh]

This is probably a stupid question, but what's the difference between Mame32+ and Mame32++, and where's the Mame32++ website?

[laugh]

I've tried the latest cps3 emu by elsemi and most of things are working great except that the zoom support in elsemi's cps3 emulator v2 is wrong. It's pretty obvious during 3s opening sequence where Ryu doesn't have his eyes. I'm very impressed overall. CPS3 made playable in less than a month is some miracle-level stuff.

[Strider2k2]

I've been playing all of the SF3 series on the (nebula?) test emulator and I have got to say progress is fantastic...

[MaybeMemories]

is 116u2 have kaillera support?
someone link to the latest mame emulator with hazes source please

[Overworld]

Yeah so far of the two, I prefer ElSemi's emulator. It's just a bit simpler, which is nice, and works very well.

[Gaijinblaze]

This is probably a stupid question, but what's the difference between Mame32+ and Mame32++, and where's the Mame32++ website?
That's what I wanna know. The whole time I thought both were the same thing, since I was getting "MAME Plus! 0.116xxx" from what I thought was the same source as "MAME PlusPlus." I've also had the same problems that other people reported with each of the 2 releases so I didn't know there was a difference.

[Johneh]

That's what I wanna know. The whole time I thought both were the same thing, since I was getting "MAME Plus! 0.116xxx" from what I thought was the same source as "MAME PlusPlus." I've also had the same problems that other people reported with each of the 2 releases so I didn't know there was a difference.

I'm going out on a limb and saying it's Mame32 Plus! just with online support... It should really be called Mame32k Plus!, since all the Mame32's with Kaillera were just called Mame32k. But yeah, IDK where the official site is but http://www.strusserslist.com/ has it.

[VEGA_OMEGA]

my new sig on neo-geo.com

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3171/infreqh2.jpg

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Mame32 Plus! is mame32 with a few extra features, Mame32 Plus!+ is mame32 with the extra features + kaillera.

[Johneh]

Mame32 Plus! is mame32 with a few extra features, Mame32 Plus!+ is mame32 with the extra features + kaillera.

I see, what's the website for it?

[baby jesus]

http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ <--- mame plus plus site just go all the way down

[Nightwing1990]

This emulator really runs slow on my comp, and idea on how i can fix this.
And what are some other roms that work for this other then SF3

[VEGA_OMEGA]

This emulator really runs slow on my comp, and idea on how i can fix this.
And what are some other roms that work for this other then SF3

All the CPS3 games work.