CPS3 Broken!!!

[Endless]

Just get the NOCD sets that have been added to U4 and use them to play online.

Although I'm at work and I can't personally try it out yet, I don't think the NoCD sets will work with MAME. They only work for Elsemi's emu for now.

However, I could be totally wrong, and maybe U4 can play with those sets.

[Hanzo_Hasashi]

So he was actually in the programming but not usable in any way? Thats odd. I never knew any of that since I skipped 2I from NG and went straight to 3s. Thanks for clearing that up. I need to get 2I now...

So any chance he might be in 3S on DC or PS2/XBX? Or they axed him at all?

[MaybeMemories]

Although I'm at work and I can't personally try it out yet, I don't think the NoCD sets will work with MAME. They only work for Elsemi's emu for now.

However, I could be totally wrong, and maybe U4 can play with those sets.

No they do work, they are completley different sets that have NOCD after them, [they were not supported before u4] but too much hassel for a lag fun time,
come on Elsemi, hit us with netplay already

[Donkus]

So any chance he might be in 3S on DC or PS2/XBX? Or they axed him at all?

Seems to be arcade only.

[Johneh]

http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/

MAME32++ 0.116u4.1 is out. Downloading it now to see if it does the CD thing still.

[MaybeMemories]

waste !!!! whyd he release 4.1? still has that cd thing

[Johneh]

waste !!!! whyd he release 4.1? still has that cd thing

I have no clue, it's in Japanese. However, it may read the nvram AFTER the first run of the CD-rom thing like it does offline except when it's online. Have you tried that? Otherwise, I really have NO clue why they'd release 4.1. =/

[MaybeMemories]

i tried running it , started writing cd.
didnt try copy over vram or anything, no one to try it online with

[Johneh]

i tried running it , started writing cd.
didnt try copy over vram or anything, no one to try it online with

Right now I'm trying on Kaillera, but I started the game by myself. Find a server where you can start a game alone (daroms is the first one that comes to mind). I'll get back to everyone in around 20mins or longer. I'm setting up the nvram offline and online at the same time so it may be longer.

Although I may have troubles finding someone to test it out after I've started a game. IDK I thought I saw some people playing on 4.1 but they could have just been having the revelation that it has the CD-Rom loading screen also. Dunno.

EDIT: Sorry folks, 4.1 is jank unless you're using the NO CD versions.

[Spinning Beat]

Not only does ELSemi need netplay in his emu. Some proper pausing would be nice.

[AcidGlow]

I don't understand this CD ROM thing..... what's the point of it? Even if the community sticks to 3.1, fine with me. It had all the normal graphical glitches fixed anyways....

[DaveNotti]

Meh...another reason why I've never been a fan of Mame. Everytime you turn around they come out with another freakin' version...as soon as I download u.4, u.57 decides to come out...jesus man. I just got u.3 today! Now u.4 is out...especially since I'm a noob at Mame, I don't wanna download u.4 now and freakin screw anything up after it took me so long with the help of MaybeMemories to get up and running...

[Endless]

Meh...another reason why I've never been a fan of Mame. Everytime you turn around they come out with another freakin' version...as soon as I download u.4, u.57 decides to come out...jesus man. I just got u.3 today! Now u.4 is out...especially since I'm a noob at Mame, I don't wanna download u.4 now and freakin screw anything up after it took me so long with the help of MaybeMemories to get up and running...

Agree 100% on everything you said.
Took me forever to get it working right, and they're releasing new version every 2 days, and I need to re-check over and over to make sure it works, but I don't want to bother people.

[LeRaldo]

MAME usually isn't updated so frequently; it is recently since CPS3 is now being emulated. Also take into account that there are a bunch of different MAME builds.

Nobody is forcing you to use the newest version. I mean, people are STILL using that garbage MAME32k 0.64. Just wait until CPS3 emulation is perfect/progress slows, and stick with a build that you and your friends like.

[Eiji]

Here is what was added to u4.1 regarding CPS3:

this update improves the palette fades and blending (warzard green sword looks good.. player sword looks good, fire effect looks good, jojo intro looks good)

not 100% sure it’s correct.. but it’s an improvement.

[Master Bigode]

Also, 0.116u4 is the last version before 0.117, so if you find any bugs, please report then on the mametesters forum to make this build as instable as possible.
I wonder if Haze will manage to emulate the CPS3 at 100% speed until it comes out.

[neohx_7]

The NOCD sets sfiiin sfiii2n sfiii3an work great in u4 and are just like sfiii, sfiii2, sfiii3 ran in u3. Stop complaining and make sure your sets are up to date.

[Johneh]

The NOCD sets sfiiin sfiii2n sfiii3an work great in u4 and are just like sfiii, sfiii2, sfiii3 ran in u3. Stop complaining and make sure your sets are up to date.

Basically what I just did... Hope people don't keep using u3.1 when .117 comes out. It'll probably be a while before the NOCD sets start getting circulated.

[n8archer_XI]

Is CPS3 playable on Kawaks, or just MAME?

[Eiji]

Is CPS3 playable on Kawaks, or just MAME?

Just MAME (with netplay) and ElSemi's emu (no netplay).

[hanz0]

haha, the nocd sets are basically the same files, except they dont use the CHDs check them with Romcenter program and you will see.:wink: or i could be wrong :sweat:

[n8archer_XI]

What?

[Johneh]

haha, the nocd sets are basically the same files, except they dont use the CHDs check them with Romcenter program and you will see.:wink: or i could be wrong :sweat:

They aren't even the same files. If they were just the ROM they would be around 60 mb, but they're around 512 kb. They're just little hacks to get SFIII3 to operate without the CD.

[Len Momono]

Great...well,an XBOX or PSP port for the emu will be a miracle.

[hanz0]

They aren't even the same files. If they were just the ROM they would be around 60 mb, but they're around 512 kb. They're just little hacks to get SFIII3 to operate without the CD.

well the reason i say that is because last time i tried running the games in mame, all i was missing was the CHD files for each game, while running the same sets in El semis emu, ran just fine thats why:wink:

[Gaijinblaze]

Anyone remember where to get to that recent official mame (32b?) release that supported CPS3? I don't mean the Mame32++ 0.116uwhatever that we've been using online. The one I'm talking about this time has an arcade machine (orange and black?) as its Windows icon, and the tab menu font was a bit different than the PlusPlus menus. I think the text was italicized and clearer/less rough-looking. Searched this thread and everywhere else (which is funny because didn't I get it here originally?!) but found nothing.

Thanks.

[MaybeMemories]

i think i have it here on www.ilovenicii.com
first link on the section, i might have taken it off though il check my server later

[n8archer_XI]

Great...well,an XBOX or PSP port for the emu will be a miracle. Someone in the PSP thread said games as advanced as SFIII couldn't run on PSP, but my thoughts differed...

[NeoChaosX]

Anyone remember where to get to that recent official mame (32b?) release that supported CPS3? I don't mean the Mame32++ 0.116uwhatever that we've been using online. The one I'm talking about this time has an arcade machine (orange and black?) as its Windows icon, and the tab menu font was a bit different than the PlusPlus menus. I think the text was italicized and clearer/less rough-looking. Searched this thread and everywhere else (which is funny because didn't I get it here originally?!) but found nothing.

Thanks.

It's found here: http://mame32qa.classicgaming.gamespy.com/

[Bacardi]

what do I need to play 3s?

[MaybeMemories]

what do I need to play 3s?


http://www.bodyofwealth.com/images/aspirin22.jpg
tbh

[Dragonfave723]

what do I need to play 3s?


Read the forum rules. You can't talk about it here.

[Xorcist]

Read the forum rules. You can't talk about it here.

What the heck are you talking about? All the guy needs is a Playstation 2, or a Dreamcast, or if he really wanted to go all the way a Third Strike Arcade Machine. So there I talked about it... :p

[Johneh]

Read the forum rules. You can't talk about it here.

I think we are allowed. We aren't supposed to deny the existence of roms. We're allowed to say he needs roms.

What you need:
A CPS3 Emulator (Mame32++ 0.116u4.1 is the online one people are using)
The rom itself.

Pretty self explanatory. Well, maybe it isn't but I can't get into anymore depth than that without worrying about a ban hammer hitting me.

[Dragonfave723]

What the heck are you talking about? All the guy needs is a Playstation 2, or a Dreamcast, or if he really wanted to go all the way a Third Strike Arcade Machine. So there I talked about it... :p

I got owned right there. :lol: I was being so "out-of-the-loop". So yeah, my bad.

[Dragonfave723]

CPS3 emulator version 1.0 is out, baby!:

http://nebula.emulatronia.com/

[str[e]ak]

CPS3 emulator version 1.0 is out, baby!:

http://nebula.emulatronia.com/

you would think he'd put up a note on his main page.

is there any difference between test version 3 and 1.0?

[edit]

never mind. needed to refresh the page :rofl:

he got rid of the "unload rom" action. that sucks.

[NeoChaosX]

This is the final version of the CPS3 emulator.

So I guess this means for CPS3 netplay, it's MAME or nothing.

[Eiji]

Well, atleast there are now graphics filters in ElSemi's CPS3 emu but its a real shame that its the final version. I was hoping for netplay which ElSemi could have easily have added via Kaillera.

[MaybeMemories]

i got that earlier, before he posted update, was confused to wether why it already had new features? the video filters are amazing, and the game looks beautiful and runs perfectly and steadily. Unlike mame.

i hope he either released source OR ADDS netplay atleast ? UGH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spinning Beat]

Either my vision has fucking deteriorated or I'm seeing no differences at all? What video filters, when I look at this new update and MAME. I notice NOTHING! Is the video filters an option or something?

I see no difference between this and 0.116u3 tbh...unless I'm doing something wrong. I even loaded the CHD and it didnt do the writing process. Hell ELSemi's emu even lags for me. Something MAME hasnt been doing to me. I dunno know the reason. You STILL cant fucking pause emulation.

ELSemi's emu has been "meh" to me.

EDIT: Ok, I notice the filters...but I havent been seeing any differences. Unless I don't know what correct filter to use.

[MaybeMemories]

when u use scanlines, u seen scan lines, make sure ur plugin folder has dll's in them.
Elsemi #s less memory hungry, restart ur pc and try it , shouldnt lag./

[Spinning Beat]

Hmm my plug-ins folder does indeed have DLL's, but is there supposed to be a scanline DLL's within the folder?

[str[e]ak]

yeah after showing all that promise, ElSemi's emulator has become somewhat of a disappointment. i mean, sure i love it because it works on my computer, but there's a lot of things missing.

"unload rom" action was something he took out, why? it made things so easy to switch games. now you have to close the freaking emulator to switch games.

as spinning beat said, pausing is terrible. i have to keep pressing the pause button until it actually pauses. it's almost random. and if you talk to somebody on AIM while your game is "paused," it keeps going.

and, no netplay. netplay would've been freaking awesome with his emulator. :tdown:

[Eiji]

Hmm my plug-ins folder does indeed have DLL's, but is there supposed to be a scanline DLL's within the folder?

There are a few scanline DLL's in the plugin folder:

genericscan.dll
scale2x75.dll
scanclear50.dll
scanclear.dll

Check the Video -> Filters option in the emulator to change the filter while a game is running.

[Dragonfave723]

We should head over to the Nebula forum and ask Wesker/Elsemi why netplay haven't been implemented yet (both in English and Spanish, lol).

[Spinning Beat]

There are a few scanline DLL's in the plugin folder:

genericscan.dll
scale2x75.dll
scanclear50.dll
scanclear.dll

Check the Video -> Filters option in the emulator to change the filter while a game is running.

K..I have all those in my dll folder. So what's the reccomended filter for these games?

[Eiji]

We should head over to the Nebula forum and ask Wesker/Elsemi why netplay haven't been implemented yet (both in English and Spanish, lol).

Yeah, lets all spam speksnk in Spanish using Babelfish :rofl:

I'll go make the roflcakes :wgrin:

"ElSemi, me da netplay, no tengo gusto de MAME y yo como ranas. ¿usted tienen gusto de los huevos de la ensalada? ¿Los cerdos pronto o ahora vuelan?"

If we say that, he should get the message ;)

K..I have all those in my dll folder. So what's the reccomended filter for these games?
Whatever suits your eyes really. I use 2xSai in MAME which isn't in CPS3 emu which I don't use anyway because of the lack of netplay.

[MaybeMemories]

str[e]ak - wtf man, does what it says on the tin, theres only 2 out there and its fucking better than mame, if u playing sf3 on keyboard then think again and since ur playing on joystick u wont need aim, besides he has states so u can save and load.
and reopening doesnt take long.

[MaybeMemories]

from the forum

P: Where is the graphical filters, kaillera, tricks, macros…?
R: This version includes graphical filters, in future versions will include but similar elements.

It remembers that you can add but graphical filters introducing archives .dll in the Plugins folder.

P: That I can do if to publish the EMULATOR.INI it gives much laziness me?
R: Then to use the wonderful configurator or to wait for the next one release, that will include menus of options Wink

P: Then is not the final version? Saldrán but versions?
R: By all means! You do not take the commentary from readme like something literal, the one of “end” talks about to that the emulation is complete (at least in a 99.999% Smile

[str[e]ak]

lol i know it's better than mame. i was just saying. jeez.

and yeah, i type a lot of stuff before i realize what i write. :lol:

now that i think about it, closing it and restarting it takes as long as unloading and loading a different game. wow, i'm dumb. :rofl:

[Gaijinblaze]

It's found here: http://mame32qa.classicgaming.gamespy.com/
Thanks!

from the forum

P: Where is the graphical filters, kaillera, tricks, macros…?
R: This version includes graphical filters, in future versions will include but similar elements.

It remembers that you can add but graphical filters introducing archives .dll in the Plugins folder.
Does that last part mean we can use our own graphic filters by putting the .dll files into the plugins folder? Sounds like it, but I want to be sure because of the wording. 3S looks nice and arcade-like with the "unfiltered scalines 50%" but it seems a bit dark. Would it be possible to find a .dll file for an unfiltered scanlines 75% filter and use that? I have a feeling it would brighten it up a bit.

[MaybeMemories]

I THINK if u open plugins.cfg and specify % of scanlines etc u can than choose custom filter in filters and should work?

[solidfox]

I'm sorry but I need help to get this running. I changed the screen resolution in the ini but it still crashes as soon as it loads. Can anyone help me with this? I have the proper romsets and everything. Thanks in advance.

[Gaijinblaze]

I THINK if u open plugins.cfg and specify % of scanlines etc u can than choose custom filter in filters and should work?
Hmm, I don't see a custom filter option. It does have "configure filter" but when I click that, it gives the message "nothing to configure."

[CustomScan]
ScanType=0
Percent=0


That's the cfg file. Any ideas on what to put? I tried various things but nothing happened; when I start it always has the unfiltered SL 50% selected that I used before.

[Tizoc]

For anyone that's playing the JoJo fighters; are any of you playing it in Japanese or US?

[ha-dou-ken]

This is weird.The preview3 version ran fine, but 1.0 is insanely slow, with and without filters...wtf?Anyone else?

[Shotokan Symphony]

For anyone that's playing the JoJo fighters; are any of you playing it in Japanese or US?

playing in japanese, and on .116u3.1

will you be on tonight? and which server?

[Eiji]

People should stop using MAME32k 0.64 for Kailerra online play and switch to using MAME Plus! Plus! for playing other MAME games online.

[Shotokan Symphony]

People should stop using MAME32k 0.64 for Kailerra online play and switch to using MAME Plus! Plus! for playing other MAME games online.

that's what .116u3.1 is, right?

[Dragonfave723]

that's what .116u3.1 is, right?

You should be on U4.1, not U3.1

[Shotokan Symphony]

isn't that the shit version that everyone's complaining about?

[str[e]ak]

This is weird.The preview3 version ran fine, but 1.0 is insanely slow, with and without filters...wtf?Anyone else?

i don't see any difference between the two when i play...

[poonage]

I'm sorry but I need help to get this running. I changed the screen resolution in the ini but it still crashes as soon as it loads. Can anyone help me with this? I have the proper romsets and everything. Thanks in advance.

It will crash as soon as you try loading a ROM if you don't have a "Plugins" directory in the same folder.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

isn't that the shit version that everyone's complaining about?

U4 is the shit version. u4.1 is fixed.

[Shotokan Symphony]

U4 is the shit version. u4.1 is fixed.

*sigh* alrighty, time to go emu hunting

..unless one of you kind gentlemans would provide for me a link?

[SuicidalGrandpa]

U4 is the shit version. u4.1 is fixed.


And where can we get that version? The link posted a page or so back?

[EveryFlowerFlow]

http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mameppk_bin_gcc-0.116u4.1-20070707.7z

[SuicidalGrandpa]

http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mameppk_bin_gcc-0.116u4.1-20070707.7z

<3 :tup:

[str[e]ak]

http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mameppk_bin_gcc-0.116u4.1-20070707.7z

i get the "mame32 must close. sorry for the inconvience." error when i click on a server in kaillera. suggestions?

[Len Momono]

Well,ElSemi Emu has a great job...now waiting for a source code o a strikeback of NJ of the PSP Scene.

[solidfox]

It will crash as soon as you try loading a ROM if you don't have a "Plugins" directory in the same folder.

I have a plugins directory but it still crashes. Another question is how do you run it in windowed mode. I don't understand why mame works and the cps3 emu doesn't

[Azagtoth]

Is the online play in the Mame emulator even worth trying?

[Johneh]

Is the online play in the Mame emulator even worth trying?

Yes.

In fact it's probably the most played game on Kaillera. At least on daroms and anti3d. It plays like any other 2d fighter on kaillera, except for if you yourself have a slow computer or your opponent does (you can tell if there computer is slow just by how long it takes them to load the ROM at th beginning of the game). I use the 'excellent' connection setting and so long as I don't play absurdly laggy (over 70 ping I kick them, I generally look for below 50 though) people I can get off parrying just like in real life, no big deal.

[MaybeMemories]

ffs people check ur options, to play in windows mode go to properties and untick START IN FULL SCREEN/MAXIMISED

Gaijinblaze- would have thought that was it but didnt work for me either, atleast he also gave source for some of the filters :)

[NeoChaosX]

Does anyone know how to speed up the CD write when you try to run CPS3 games in the latest MAME? I've tried disabling the throttle, but that isn't making much of a difference.

[Johneh]

Does anyone know how to speed up the CD write when you try to run CPS3 games in the latest MAME? I've tried disabling the throttle, but that isn't making much of a difference.

Yeah I tried the same time, I even messed with the framerates and thread priority/multithreading. I think they set the exact CD read time as the CPS3 machines for better accuracy. My advice:


Copy your nvram and paste it if you need to do it again
You can open multiple instances of MAME and do all your ROMS at once if your computer is fast enough.

[Nightwing1990]

how come my sf3 no cd runs slower then the original

[True Grave]

I had the test version 3 and downloaded the latest emu, and i'd rather stick with test version 3.

This new version seems to offer little improvements and now the games list is also bogged down with all those needless "CD" titles, which i don't see why anyone would bother with them.

[Spinning Beat]

Man MAME 0.116 u4.1 shits on ELSemi's 1.0

Proper pausing, full speed. Just a better experience over-all. Even though I did have to boot the CD, which was complete bullshit. It took only 10 minutes per game. I only booted the CD's for Jojo and the SF3's.

Everything is alright in the new MAME. Plus the shadows don't look like fucking black holes anymore!

My PC can run MAME, so I have no problems with it. Although I admit ELSemi's is more memory friendly. But his newest is laggy as hell and the sprites look rough. I prefer my MAME.

[ha-dou-ken]

I knew I wasn't crazy.Does anyone have a link to the version3 Elsemi ?1.0 sucks and I didn't back up .3. The Nebula website only has the most recent iteration...

[miscz]

how come my sf3 no cd runs slower then the original

I think I've read that even no-cd versions try to access the disc (which obviously is not present) from time to time and this is causing slowdowns.

[SuupaBuu]

Has anyone umm.... tinkered with this game yet?

Deep tinkering.. I could use any info.

[str[e]ak]

I knew I wasn't crazy.Does anyone have a link to the version3 Elsemi ?1.0 sucks and I didn't back up .3. The Nebula website only has the most recent iteration...

i think the link is still there, on the first page. scroll down after the announcement of "CPS3 Emulator Version 1.0" to "CPS3 Emulator Preview 3 Test Version." then, where you see the bullet, click on "CPS3 Emulator Test Version 3."

version 3 still has the makoto glitch, if you're wondering.

[Spinning Beat]

I knew I wasn't crazy.Does anyone have a link to the version3 Elsemi ?1.0 sucks and I didn't back up .3. The Nebula website only has the most recent iteration...

If your computer can handle MAME, and if you have a fast computer the CD booting won't take THAT long. I thought it would be hours on my machine but it took 10 minutes for 2I and 15-20 for my NG.

I do have a 3.3 GHZ processor, that could be why.

[Zombies]

It looks like MAME 0117 is out...I haven't tried it yet myself. The changes seem to be fairly minor over the previous version.

[RaNdOmBliNg]

the mame version i have no problems when not online, it feels like its the real deal. Only problem i get is the sound is really fucked up online

[Shodokan123]

mame doesnt work... even with the chd... wtf? lol

rom is like 64 megs, chd is like 30-40... what is wrong here?

[RaNdOmBliNg]

you just got pwned by mame thats whats happening...lol jk

you have to drag and drop the chd file into the rom file. when u do that the rom should load

[phamtq]

you have to drag and drop the chd file into the rom file. when u do that the rom should load

Not really. The CHD has to be placed in it's own folder named the same as the ROM. For example:

\mame\roms\sfiii3a.zip
\mame\roms\sfiii3a\cap-33s-2.chd

This works for me.

[RaNdOmBliNg]

Not really. The CHD has to be placed in it's own folder named the same as the ROM. For example:

\mame\roms\sfiii3a.zip
\mame\roms\sfiii3a\cap-33s-2.chd

This works for me.

that can be done too but i didnt feel like making a folder cuz im lazy so i just dragged and dropped

[LeRaldo]

Not really. The CHD has to be placed in it's own folder named the same as the ROM.

Yes really. It works both ways, you can put the CHD file in the rom zip and it works perfectly.

[Shodokan123]

k, got the help i needed and it works great ^_^

[Hellfromabove]

Ok so I'm trying to load the cheats in MAME 0.116 u4.1 but I am having trouble doing it. I copied and pasted the cheats from Rock Lee in the cheat.dat file that's in my Mame folder but how do I load the cheats when I am in game? I read the "read me" file and all but could not find how to load cheats with this Mame. Any help would be great.

-Tha Hindu

[Master Bigode]

Ok so I'm trying to load the cheats in MAME 0.116 u4.1 but I am having trouble doing it. I copied and pasted the cheats from Rock Lee in the cheat.dat file that's in my Mame folder but how do I load the cheats when I am in game? I read the "read me" file and all but could not find how to load cheats with this Mame. Any help would be great.

-Tha Hindu

Hit tab after the game loads.
You will know what to do.

[SlipStream_LDN]

Ok so I'm trying to load the cheats in MAME 0.116 u4.1 but I am having trouble doing it. I copied and pasted the cheats from Rock Lee in the cheat.dat file that's in my Mame folder but how do I load the cheats when I am in game? I read the "read me" file and all but could not find how to load cheats with this Mame. Any help would be great.

-Tha Hindu

Open the MAME GUI, then go to Options and click Default Game Options. In the window that opens up, on the left side of the window you will see "Miscellaneous", click that. You will now see a menu with tick/check boxes, find the one that says "Enable game cheats" and tick it. Click OK..............Now run your game then press TAB while in game to bring up the MAME in-game menu.

The rest is pretty straight forward after that!!

[Master Bigode]

Open the MAME GUI, then go to Options and click Default Game Options. In the window that opens up, on the left side of the window you will see "Miscellaneous", click that. You will now see a menu with tick/check boxes, find the one that says "Enable game cheats" and tick it. Click OK..............Now run your game then press TAB while in game to bring up the MAME in-game menu.

The rest is pretty straight forward after that!!

Ouch...
I forgot to mention the "Enable game cheats" thing...:sweat:

[Cryptlord]

Anyone know how to change the difficulty in 3s?

[str[e]ak]

F2? i think.

[Mr.hitBOX]

yea press F2 go to option 7

[Shotokan Symphony]

thanks again for the help, guys! :tup:

[str[e]ak]

i've got a question that's been bothering me for a while now.
let's say we have a crappy computer whose video card sucks. if we can get the cps3 mame and ElSemi's emulator to work, why can't we get a dreamcast emulator to work well/properly? (since sfiii was ported to dreamcast) it should work, no?

[Gaijinblaze]

Gaijinblaze- would have thought that was it but didnt work for me either, atleast he also gave source for some of the filters :)
Well if you ever figure out any way to configure the filters, let me know. All I want is for the unfiltered 50% to have the brightness of the scale2x 75%, then I can stop bugging people. :wgrin:

Uh, anyone notice a difference in gameplay between ElSemi's emu and MAME? Like in 3S, the gameplay just feels smoother and less strained in ElSemi's to me. Does MAME have built-in input lag or something?

No wonder I couldn't access the service menu before, my F keys don't even work apparently. Once I designated a different button for it, I could get to it. I hope they're not permanently broken.

[Dragonfave723]

MAME 0.117 is out now!

http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mameppk_bin_gcc-0.117-20070712.7z

[str[e]ak]

good stuff, dragonfave. :tup:

[Dragonfave723]

There are 2 versions of 0117: GCC and VG2005. What are the differences on both versions?

[NeoChaosX]

GCC version in general is faster.

[MaybeMemories]

guys not sure if its 117 or no cd set, but great imporovement, no slow downs at all, completed SF3 flawlessly, and played online there for about 7-8 sets lagless.

[Toodles]

ak;4092354']i've got a question that's been bothering me for a while now.
let's say we have a crappy computer whose video card sucks. if we can get the cps3 mame and ElSemi's emulator to work, why can't we get a dreamcast emulator to work well/properly? (since sfiii was ported to dreamcast) it should work, no?
Since Pac-Man was ported to Windows, that means your arcade cabinet can run WinAmp, right?:rolleyes:

[str[e]ak]

lawl. it probably could. who knows.

[CptMunta]

ak;4092354']i've got a question that's been bothering me for a while now.
let's say we have a crappy computer whose video card sucks. if we can get the cps3 mame and ElSemi's emulator to work, why can't we get a dreamcast emulator to work well/properly? (since sfiii was ported to dreamcast) it should work, no?

Completely different hardware I'm afraid.

[str[e]ak]

ah okay. oh well.

[dorkie]

If noone minds me asking, How do you disable layers(cps3emu not mame) ?

[ha-dou-ken]

I can't wait to try this new version after work.Sounds like a big jump.

[Endless]

GCC version in general is faster.

Where can I get the GCC version?

Thanks in advance.

[Dragonfave723]

Where can I get the GCC version?

Thanks in advance.

Look around this page.

[Strider2k2]

Quick question: I just upgraded my MAME to 0.117 (i haven't been following the versions/playing online for a while now) and apparently i'm using the CD version of SFIII 3rd Strike (127mb) and it's asking if i should re-write the game. Should i bother doing this? Or should i just get the No-Cd version? Thanks, people.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

get the nocd

[poonage]

Hey guys,

I discovered what you must do in order to have no input lag whatsoever on these (and other) emulators.

First, use the USB polling rate modifier and change your Windows USB rate to 1000mhz. This will reduce your 8-millisecond USB input lag to 1-millisecond. Instructions here: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4053071&postcount=627

Next, MAKE SURE you have Vertial Sync DISABLED. For ElSemi's emulator, open the emulator.ini and make sure you have "ForceSync=0". For MAME, just go to your game's properties, click "Advanced" on the left-hand menu, then make sure "Wait for Vertial Sync" and "Triple Buffering" are both unchecked.

The downside to having Vertical Sync disabled is that you may experience image tearing while you play. The only way to fix this is to INCREASE the refresh rate for your monitor. However, if you can't do that, you do have to just live with the tearing. This is the ONLY way to play with no lag.

Finally, make sure you have a lag-free adapter if you're using a Playstation joystick. The Pelican brand PS2 to PS3 adapter works great for this, and is detected automatically by Windows XP!

Response time will be 100% arcade accurate if you do these three things.

Happy gaming!

[Eiji]

Shoryuken needs to have its own European and US Kaillera servers so we can have online SF3TS tournaments.

BTW, MAME 0.117's SF3TS Japan NO CD set runs in US mode online so you can read the super art names.

[aktham]

Hey guys,

I discovered what you must do in order to have no input lag whatsoever on these (and other) emulators.

First, use the USB polling rate modifier and change your Windows USB rate to 1000mhz. This will reduce your 8-millisecond USB input lag to 1-millisecond. Instructions here: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4053071&postcount=627

Next, MAKE SURE you have Vertial Sync DISABLED. For ElSemi's emulator, open the emulator.ini and make sure you have "ForceSync=0". For MAME, just go to your game's properties, click "Advanced" on the left-hand menu, then make sure "Wait for Vertial Sync" and "Triple Buffering" are both unchecked.

The downside to having Vertical Sync disabled is that you may experience image tearing while you play. The only way to fix this is to INCREASE the refresh rate for your monitor. However, if you can't do that, you do have to just live with the tearing. This is the ONLY way to play with no lag.

Finally, make sure you have a lag-free adapter if you're using a Playstation joystick. The Pelican brand PS2 to PS3 adapter works great for this, and is detected automatically by Windows XP!

Response time will be 100% arcade accurate if you do these three things.

Happy gaming!

do you have a solution for USB ports while using vista?

[poonage]

do you have a solution for USB ports while using vista?

Actually, yes!

Complete instructions can be found here: http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=8561

[Dragonfave723]

BTW, MAME 0.117's SF3TS Japan NO CD set runs in US mode online so you can read the super art names.


How can you do that? I bet we have to set it through setup menu (F2).....

[final_cut]

Um.. could someone PM me about help with this emulator? I have questions that may not be appropriate to post, but I dunno where to ask. thanks!

[Johneh]

How can you do that? I bet we have to set it through setup menu (F2).....

You've always been able to set it Dipswitches (Hit Tab > Dipswitches). However, I don't think you can do that online.

[Eiji]

How can you do that? I bet we have to set it through setup menu (F2).....

I didn't do anything. In 0.116u4.1 and below, the text was in Japanese but when I went online with 0.117 the text was in English in the NCD version of SF3TS even though MAME should run it in Japanese. I think the person who compiles Mame++ set the NCD version to run in English online.

[Tiyuri]

Still in Jap here, I'd be interested to know how you managed that.

[KING]

Still in Jap here, I'd be interested to know how you managed that.

oh snap. same Tiyuri on the guild wars fan site?

[Tiyuri]

Yes, am I being stalked

[aktham]

Actually, yes!

Complete instructions can be found here: http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=8561

eh, this is complicated stuff. I realized that my setting is actually 500hz since i have a G7 mouse with the logitech drivers. Hopefully they add the 1000hz option in the future.

[eks]

Yes, am I being stalked

i saw you last week at the shops! why didnt you say sup

[AcidGlow]

Still in Jap here, I'd be interested to know how you managed that.

DIP switches.. switch to US, restart... done..

[MaybeMemories]

do u guys use joy to key ?
i have usb to ps2 and my joystick works but it doesnt do diagonals

[miscz]

This (http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htm) JoyToKey? There are many programs with JoyToKey (or 2Key) name. The one I've linked to works fine here.

[Tiyuri]

DIP switches.. switch to US, restart... done..

Erm... dipswitches aren't read online, there is even a key to "send dipswitches" but it doesn't work.

[AcidGlow]

Erm... dipswitches aren't read online, there is even a key to "send dipswitches" but it doesn't work.

Didn't know you meant online.. oh well, the emu sucks in some way or another. You can always go back to 3.1 .. or just wait for an ENG version or.. memorize how many Up or Down presses you need to get to your fav super art..

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I'm suprised people are having trouble picking supers even without the english names -_-

[Gaijinblaze]

Yeah exactly. If you don't know what supers to pick you've got bigger things to worry about than dipswitches. Especially if you're new to 3S, you shouldn't be learning the timing of the game online. It's like teaching a young child a useless language he'll never use instead of a necessary one. Gotta start off the right way when you're most vulnerable.

[Tiyuri]

Erm.. Well I never mentioned anything regarding picking supers, of course I have no trouble there. Actually I'm far more interested in the wide screen mode for 2nd impact.

[kenny99208]

Cant seem to get 2nd impact to work....do i use the 45 mb one?

[JackTenrac!]

Usually, it's the bigger one that works.

[Johneh]

eh, this is complicated stuff. I realized that my setting is actually 500hz since i have a G7 mouse with the logitech drivers. Hopefully they add the 1000hz option in the future.

It's not too complicated. I just did it. Unfortunately I have no way of testing it since I don't have a USB mouse.

For anybody who wants to do this: Go into Safe Mode WITH networking so you can just go to the website and copy and paste the command lines.

[Zombies]

I have a question for anyone knowledgable in MAME...I've been playing SFIII3 for a few days now under MAME on my mac, and recently installed ElSemis emulator on my girlfriends PC. I immediately noticed a large difference in the visual quality between the two versions with the PC being quite superior. The MAME version on mac looks to be in either lower resolution, lower color depth or lower anti-aliasing.

Does anyone know what could be causing the difference? Opengl vs. direct3d? I've tried several of the runtime options on my mac but haven't been able to get the quality the same.

[kenny99208]

I have a question for anyone knowledgable in MAME...I've been playing SFIII3 for a few days now under MAME on my mac, and recently installed ElSemis emulator on my girlfriends PC. I immediately noticed a large difference in the visual quality between the two versions with the PC being quite superior. The MAME version on mac looks to be in either lower resolution, lower color depth or lower anti-aliasing.

Does anyone know what could be causing the difference? Opengl vs. direct3d? I've tried several of the runtime options on my mac but haven't been able to get the quality the same.

If I'm on mistaken. Elsemi's emu is much better in terms of quality than the Mame Emu. Although ElSemi's does not come with online play...its a sacrifice some people will take. In other words, Elsemi's emu is made much better than the Mame ones.

[Johneh]

I have a question for anyone knowledgable in MAME...I've been playing SFIII3 for a few days now under MAME on my mac, and recently installed ElSemis emulator on my girlfriends PC. I immediately noticed a large difference in the visual quality between the two versions with the PC being quite superior. The MAME version on mac looks to be in either lower resolution, lower color depth or lower anti-aliasing.

Does anyone know what could be causing the difference? Opengl vs. direct3d? I've tried several of the runtime options on my mac but haven't been able to get the quality the same.

I would try:

1. Enabling Bilinear Filtering.
2. Enabling a Visual Effect (I like Aperture 2x4bg)
3. Enabling an Image Enhancement (some of these take up a lot of processing however)
4. Set Scale Screen to 1.
5. Set you resolution if you're playing in full screen, but also turn on Enforce Aspect Ratio.

EDIT: This (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/prozaccat/Untitled-1.png) is what SFIII3 looks like on my screen. I use Aperture 2x4bg and Bilinear Filtering (Bilinear Filtering is probably the most important option). Some people don't like Aperture, I've had my firend tell me it looks like an old TV. Be sure to click to zoom in on the image in Firefox/IE it has weird red lines if it's not zoomed to it's actual size.

[Eiji]

I use the 2xSai filter in MAME with 640x480 res, 60Hz refresh and vsync enabled on a 21" Sony CRT monitor.

http://i14.tinypic.com/54028tu.jpg

Looks better than that on-screen due to the JPG compression.

[Johneh]

Hey does anybody happen to know if there's an infinite special bar cheat? I'm trying to practice Kara RD but it's sort of hard when I have to rebuild my each time.

[Eiji]

Hey does anybody happen to know if there's an infinite special bar cheat? I'm trying to practice Kara RD but it's sort of hard when I have to rebuild my each time.

Here you go, I hacked these earlier on but they didn't make it into the official cheat.dat.

:sfiii3:00000000:20695B5:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infinit e Power PL1
:sfiii3:00000000:20695FD:00000060:FFFFFFFF:Always Stunned PL1
:sfiii3:00000000:20695FD:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Never Stunned PL1
:sfiii3:00000000:20695E1:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infinit e Power PL2
:sfiii3:00000000:2069611:00000060:FFFFFFFF:Always Stunned PL2
:sfiii3:00000000:2069611:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Never Stunned PL2

[Tiyuri]

Nice work, I was looking for those too.


; [ Street Fighter III 3rd Strike: Fight for the Future NO CD ]
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:Enable at Character Select
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011387:0000000F:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:201566B:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL1 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:20154CF:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL1 (3/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011387:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:201566B:00000004:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL1 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:20154CF:00000001:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL1 (3/3)
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011388:0000000F:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL2
:sfiii3n:00000000:201566D:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL2 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:20154D1:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL2 (3/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011388:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL2
:sfiii3n:00000000:201566D:00000004:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL2 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:20154D1:00000001:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL2 (3/3)
:sfiii3n:62000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:Backgr ound Select
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000001:00000000:Alex
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000002:00000000:Ryu
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000003:00000000:Yun
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000004:00000000:Dudley
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000005:00000000:Necro
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000006:00000000:Hugo
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000007:00000000:Ibuki
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000008:00000000:Elena
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000009:00000000:Oro
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000A:00000000:Yang
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000B:00000000:Ken
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000C:00000000:Sean
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000D:00000000:Urien
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000E:00000000:Akuma
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000F:00000000:Shin Akuma
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000010:00000000:Chun-Li
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000011:00000000:Makoto
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000013:00000000:Twelve
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000014:00000000:Remy
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000000:00000000:Gill
:sfiii3n:00000000:2007CE0:00000009:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Credits
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011377:00000063:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Time
:sfiii3n:00000001:2011377:00000001:FFFFFFFF:Finish this Round Now!
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:
:sfiii3n:00000000:2068D0B:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Health PL1
:sfiii3n:00000001:2068D0B:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Drain All Health Now! PL1
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:
:sfiii3n:00000000:20691A3:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Health PL2
:sfiii3n:00000001:20691A3:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Drain All Health Now! PL2
:sfiii3n:62000000:00000000:00000000:00000000:Regio n
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000001:FFFFFFFF:Japan
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000002:FFFFFFFF:Asia
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000003:FFFFFFFF:Euro
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000004:FFFFFFFF:Usa
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000005:FFFFFFFF:Hispa nic
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Brazi l
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000007:FFFFFFFF:Ocean ia
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000008:FFFFFFFF:Korea
:sfiii3n:A0000100:0001FECB:000000FF:FFFFFFFF:Free Region select
:sfiii3n:62000000:00000000:00000000:00000000:CD Check
:sfiii3n:A0310000:0001FECC:0B000000:FFFFFFFF:False
:sfiii3n:A0310000:0001FECC:00000000:FFFFFFFF:True
:sfiii3n:00000000:20695B5:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Power PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:20695FD:00000060:FFFFFFFF:Always Stunned PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:20695FD:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Never Stunned PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:20695E1:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Power PL2
:sfiii3n:00000000:2069611:00000060:FFFFFFFF:Always Stunned PL2
:sfiii3n:00000000:2069611:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Never Stunned PL2


Here's my cheat.dat for sfiii3n. If anyone wants it.

[Zombies]

Eiji: how do you enable 2xsai? Do you know the command line argument?

[AcidGlow]

They need to fix the Shin Akuma glitches :p

[NapaSelect]

So has anyone made a list of recommended specs, and/or required specs? I can run it fine on this comp, but one of my friends wants it and i dont know if his comp would be able to handle it.

[Dragonfave723]

They need to fix the Shin Akuma glitches :p

...plus, Dudley's NG stage still got that pink tile block floating at the top-right corner of the stage. :looney:

[Johneh]

...plus, Dudley's NG stage still got that pink tile block floating at the top-right corner of the stage. :looney:

and the end of the introduction.

[Eiji]

Eiji: how do you enable 2xsai? Do you know the command line argument?

No need for commandline. I use MAME Plus Plus which has the option in the TAB menu once a game has loaded.

http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/

Scroll to the bottom and download the GCC version 0.117 build.

[efd753]

nice thxs Eiji

[Zombies]

I'm at work and can't really be downloading emulators so: does mame plus plus work on os x?

[Johneh]

I'm at work and can't really be downloading emulators so: does mame plus plus work on os x?

Probably not... If I were you I'd look for some sort of Windows application emulator for Mac (I know Linux has WINE, but not sure if Mac has something similar).

[Brutal-R]

My cps3 emu has started lagging after a minute or two and it never used to do that. Any reason why? (test version 3)

[Phudge]

ElSemi 1.0 works as well for me as the other three did, basically at full speed, but MAME, which improved in speed only a little for me after .117, is still far too slow to use. I'm beginning to think it's my crappy mobo that won't let me dual-channel my RAM. Still, all things considered, I don't think it should run at only 55%...

[Crunch]

cheats

Do these work with the CD version, as well?

[Eiji]

Do these work with the CD version, as well?

Yes. Just change the :sfiii3n: to :sfiii3:

[Kyokuji]

Is there a No CD version of JJBA with the hidden characters unlocked?

[Eiji]

...plus, Dudley's NG stage still got that pink tile block floating at the top-right corner of the stage. :looney:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g56/killzone_album/str67564556435433sb7ia.gif

[kenmastersX]

Is there a No CD version of JJBA with the hidden characters unlocked?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4040893&postcount=154

[final_cut]

I have a question for anyone knowledgable in MAME...I've been playing SFIII3 for a few days now under MAME on my mac, and recently installed ElSemis emulator on my girlfriends PC. I immediately noticed a large difference in the visual quality between the two versions with the PC being quite superior. The MAME version on mac looks to be in either lower resolution, lower color depth or lower anti-aliasing.

Does anyone know what could be causing the difference? Opengl vs. direct3d? I've tried several of the runtime options on my mac but haven't been able to get the quality the same.

What are the specs of your mac? Mame has always run worse on my Macs, I'm assuming because it gets less support in general.

[Spinning Beat]

I noticed compared to the console versions, the game looks zoomed in. IS there anyway to make it appear like it did on my TV in the PS2 version.

[Johneh]

I noticed compared to the console versions, the game looks zoomed in. IS there anyway to make it appear like it did on my TV in the PS2 version.
I said this in an earlier post:

This (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/prozaccat/Untitled-1.png) is what SFIII3 looks like on my screen. I use Aperture 2x4bg and Bilinear Filtering (Bilinear Filtering is probably the most important option). Some people don't like Aperture, I've had my friend tell me it looks like an old TV. Be sure to click to zoom in on the image in Firefox/IE it has weird red lines if it's not zoomed to it's actual size.

My advice is to enable Bilinear Filtering and choose a Visual Effect.

EDIT: that screen shot doesn't really do it justice here are some more:
Opening Screen. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/prozaccat/openingscreen.jpg) Looks almost anti-aliased around the edges.
Character Select. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/prozaccat/characterselect.jpg) The circles aren't as smooth as they may be with an Image Enhancement like 2xsai. But I think it looks an awful like it does on my TV.
Shin Akuma stage. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/prozaccat/shinakumastage.jpg) Looks sort of like my first screen shot, just not during a special so it's not dimmed.

If anybody else has any settings I'd like to hear what you use and see some screenshots, I messed around with the settings Eiji posted and got some pretty results with that too.

[Sacr3D]

Anyone have any idea why SFIII3 is so damn slow when I try to play it on mame ?

[AcidGlow]

Anyone have any idea why SFIII3 is so damn slow when I try to play it on mame ?

From the discussion here... if you looked... Mame is more memory hungry then the CPS3 emulator. You could try a different video out put aswell.

[elvis_a_presley]

I noticed compared to the console versions, the game looks zoomed in. IS there anyway to make it appear like it did on my TV in the PS2 version.

Welcome to the joys of raster graphics.

CPS2 and CPS3 fighters run at a native res of 384x224 pixels. If you're playing on a PC monitor at some incredibly high resolution (1280x1024 is pretty average for most low-end LCDs these days), then each single pixel from the emulated game will be scaled three or more times in each direction. i.e: What was a single pixel on the arcade original becomes 9 pixels (3x3) or more on your monitor! Just like if you draw a single-pixel width diagonal line in any paint package and scale the image 3+ times in size, you'll see the horrid stair-stepping effect as the pixels grow.

If you find that ugly, you've got 3 choices:

1) Use the various RGB filters provided by your emulator, as documented by Johneh above. Some emulators also include extra scaling options like Scale2x (http://scale2x.sourceforge.net/), but do be warned that all of these chew up extra CPU power. This will attempt to blur the image enough to fool your eyes into thinking it looks better than it really does.

2) Connect your PC via TV-out to a low-res TV. The downside here is most TV-out cards will spit out an interlaced signal, which can be equally as ugly for purists. It's worth noting however that the PS2 version of 3S is interlaced, so it can't look any worse. :rofl:

3) Use AdvanceMAME (http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/) and/or and ArcadeVGA (http://www.ultimarc.com/avgainf.html) and connect your PC to a real-life RGB 15KHz arcade monitor. Both represent considerable cost and effort, but will give you the most arcade-like experience, and the best visual quality that is proper progressive scan 15KHz RGB output. Tasty.

[bushin187]

In el semi cps3 emu I can't do ryu joudan move . Anyone have the same problem.
I can do it in mame but elsemi emu runs a little smoother.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Is there a No CD version of JJBA with the hidden characters unlocked?

yep. well actually the EX character rom set is NCD automatically online.

[Eiji]

I managed to find the parry values in the memory and made a "Auto-Parry" code.

Its not perfect but parries 80% of attacks from what I have tested.

:sfiii3:00000000:2026335:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL1
:sfiii3:00010000:2026337:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL1 (2/3)
:sfiii3:00010000:2026339:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL1 (3/3)
:sfiii3:00000000:202673B:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL2
:sfiii3:00010000:202673D:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL2 (2/3)
:sfiii3:00010000:202673F:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL2 (3/3)

[Tizoc]

OK got a few questions with MAME++
1) How do I run CHDs?
2) How do I change the Region of some games so that I can play them in Japanese?

[Brutal-R]

OK got a few questions with MAME++
1) How do I run CHDs?
2) How do I change the Region of some games so that I can play them in Japanese?


2) Press tab while game is running and select region from the list.

[SrWilson3S]

I've got the new CPS3 emulator and the sfIII games but I have a problem I boot them up they all run fine for about a minute - min and half or so and then they go really slow and the sound all stutter. Anyone know why this is?

[Shodokan123]

OK got a few questions with MAME++
1) How do I run CHDs?
2) How do I change the Region of some games so that I can play them in Japanese?

with what emulator?

CHD is a disk image... needed to run a particular rom set in MAME.

[Valaris]

This is a really stupid question but I'm using the nebula emulator; is there anyway to pause?

[Dragonfave723]

This is a really stupid question but I'm using the nebula emulator; is there anyway to pause?

"Pause Break" button.

[Eiji]

This is a really stupid question but I'm using the nebula emulator; is there anyway to pause?

Press the Pause key on your keyboard.

[Valaris]

..wow...

[Shodokan123]

..wow...

do you feel stupid for not knowing that? they sure are trying to make you feel stupid it seems lol.

[AcidGlow]

..wow...

why don't people read the README files....:confused:

[Valaris]

Screw you all -_- I'm stuck with a french keyboard that doesn't have a pause button identified.

I did set it in english and found out how to pause though.

[Tizoc]

OK, thanks for telling me how to change the Region in MAME guys :tup:
Now to find out how to play as the hidden characters in JoJo...

[kenny99208]

Anyone know why 2n impact doesn't run on the July 12 version of Mame? I just need to have the 45mb zip in there correct?

[sailorsaturn]

are there any projects underway to get this running on console? i dont know if xbox can run it properly, but surely ps3 can. imagine a console with tekken:dr AND 3s... just what ps2 should have been lol.

[Cesar]

Has anyone else been getting a lot games where you cant type to the user and its starting up the game and its like your playing offline, then you exit the game and and cant type anything in the server you have to reconnect



i've played with people, so i don't know whats up




Edit: wow now its just been consistent now, not one game ='(...

[Nican]

I've got the new CPS3 emulator and the sfIII games but I have a problem I boot them up they all run fine for about a minute - min and half or so and then they go really slow and the sound all stutter. Anyone know why this is?

i got the same problem... need some help here.

[kenny99208]

Its still buggy.

And I got 2nd impact working ty.

[elvis_a_presley]

are there any projects underway to get this running on console? i dont know if xbox can run it properly, but surely ps3 can. imagine a console with tekken:dr AND 3s... just what ps2 should have been lol.

You've got no chance on an XBox. The CPU's too slow, and there's not nearly enough RAM.

CHD games do chew up a lot of memory. Run MAME+3S in a window, fire up task manager (windows) or top (Linux/UNIX/Mac) and see how much memory it's using. I don't know if the 256MB on a PS3 would be enough to be honest.

Games like DoDonPachi and GunBird 2 already creep into the 300MB of RAM usage when fired up under MAME and all ROMs are loaded into memory.

[Cesar]

welp i restarted my comp and everything works fine now..=/

[Eiji]

I don't know if the 256MB on a PS3 would be enough to be honest.

Games like DoDonPachi and GunBird 2 already creep into the 300MB of RAM usage when fired up under MAME and all ROMs are loaded into memory.

Two words.

Virtual Memory.

[KabaL]

Two words.

Virtual Memory.

2 words :wgrin:


Too slow

[MaybeMemories]

are the updates over?

:(

[Shodokan123]

are the updates over?

:(

mame plus plus runs this fine... why would there need more updates? there are no bugs what so ever that i have found in any game using the latest version of it.

[Dragonfave723]

are the updates over?

:(


***cough***0.117u1***cough***

[MaybeMemories]

well i think the code needs to be optimised in mame, it requires too much memory/speed to run a 8+ year old system, further more i meant updates as in netplay for the CPS3 emulator [Elsim]

[leaveal]

ok so i have the noCD version and it runs fine on Nebula. mame reads it as the CD version, though, so i have to rewrite the thing everytime i want to play on kaillera. do i have the wrong chd or something?

[LeRaldo]

well i think the code needs to be optimised in mame, it requires too much memory/speed to run a 8+ year old system, further more i meant updates as in netplay for the CPS3 emulator [Elsim]

Uhh yeah, that's kinda the problem with emulation. Get a better processor if you want it to run smoother, or find an emulator that uses GPU acceleration.

[elvis_a_presley]

Two words.

Virtual Memory.

RAM is around 1000 times faster than disk (RAM latency is measured in nanoseconds [10^-9] whereas disk latency is measured in milliseconds [10^-6] - making disk literally 1000 times slower OR WORSE).

Swapping back and forth to disk is called "thrashing", and means instant and severe reduced performance for applications that do it.

Virtual Memory (ie: "swap") is designed for what's called "graceful process degradation". It allows a process to gracefully make it's way out of RAM to swap to free up for other interactive/foreground apps, and then eventually quit out and die (unless it's used again, and swapped back into active memory pages).

Running a single application that has half of it's active pages in RAM and half in disk means the application (a) runs up to 1000 times slower for any memory calls and (b) has additional overhead as it pushes RAM pages to disk and vice versa.

So once again, I don't believe the the PS3 has enough physical RAM to cope. And all the "Virtual Memory" (swap) in the world isn't going to fix it. In fact, it's the very reason WHY it won't work so well on PS3.

[str[e]ak]

for the latest mame, how do you get netplay to work? i've extracted everything.

i've been using ElSemi's emulator this entire time.

[i hope the question is fair game.]

[NeoChaosX]

Get a kailleraclient.dll and put it in the same directory as the MAME32++ exe, then in MAME select the File menu, then "Kaillera NetPlay".

[Tiberious]

You've got no chance on an XBox. The CPU's too slow, and there's not nearly enough RAM.

CHD games do chew up a lot of memory. Run MAME+3S in a window, fire up task manager (windows) or top (Linux/UNIX/Mac) and see how much memory it's using. I don't know if the 256MB on a PS3 would be enough to be honest.

Games like DoDonPachi and GunBird 2 already creep into the 300MB of RAM usage when fired up under MAME and all ROMs are loaded into memory.

Wait... if it's only the CHD version that would run the XBox out of memory, why couldn't the console run the no-CD version, especially given a less resource-intensive emu like FBAxxx?

Come on, if the thing can run the Neo Geo MONSTERS at full speed and no frameskip, are you trying to tell me a single SH-2 would somehow magically bring the console to its knees?


Let's face it, MAME is a pig. It loads things in it never needs, and probably, thanks to its Mongolian Hordes-styled programming, probably doesn't UNLOAD it, making its memory footprint ginormous.

Yes, MAME for CPS3 on the XBox would probably fail, but that doesn't mean CPS3 on the XBox itself would.

[elvis_a_presley]

Come on, if the thing can run the Neo Geo MONSTERS at full speed and no frameskip, are you trying to tell me a single SH-2 would somehow magically bring the console to its knees?

SH-2 isn't an easy CPU to emulate either. I honestly don't believe the XBox's low-cache 733MHz CPU could do the job. Looking at some of the other single-CPU SH-2 games in MAME (say, some of the 2D ST-V/Saturn games that have one of the processors disabled like Shienryu and Cotton), and they're requiring 2GHz+ on full-cache Intel x86 procs to get a full 60FPS.

No, I don't think the XBox will handle CPS3 well at all. I could be wrong (and often am), but I just don't see it happening.

What I am sure of however is that there will be a lot of effort into getting it working anyway. That whole scene is full of folks who'll work day and night to port and hack various emulators into a working state on XBox. But I'm just laying down my early prediction that it won't be happening at a full 60FPS.

[Eiji]

Well the CPS3 games can pretty much get away with an underclocked SH-2 at 10MHz instead of the normal 25MHz.

I think frameskip will be needed to run CPS3 on Xbox even with the CPU at 10MHz. I can't imagine it running without frameskip. Even at 10MHz, the SH-2 is more powerful than the CPS2's 68000 @ 16 MHz.

[Henaki]

is there any way to make "training mode" codes ie, infinite health, meter and time (for 3s)

i dont mind if its a process or anything i have to go through or if someone's discovered it.

[Johneh]

is there any way to make "training mode" codes ie, infinite health, meter and time (for 3s)

i dont mind if its a process or anything i have to go through or if someone's discovered it.

If you know how to enable cheats plug in these codes (for the No-CD version):

; [ Street Fighter III 3rd Strike: Fight for the Future No CD ]
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:Enable at Character Select
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011387:0000000F:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:201566B:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL1 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:20154CF:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL1 (3/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011387:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:201566B:00000004:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL1 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:20154CF:00000001:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL1 (3/3)
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011388:0000000F:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL2
:sfiii3n:00000000:201566D:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL2 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:20154D1:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Play as Shin Akuma PL2 (3/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011388:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL2
:sfiii3n:00000000:201566D:00000004:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL2 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:20154D1:00000001:FFFFFFFF:Play as Gill PL2 (3/3)
:sfiii3n:62000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:Backgr ound Select
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000001:00000000:Alex
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000002:00000000:Ryu
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000003:00000000:Yun
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000004:00000000:Dudley
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000005:00000000:Necro
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000006:00000000:Hugo
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000007:00000000:Ibuki
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000008:00000000:Elena
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000009:00000000:Oro
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000A:00000000:Yang
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000B:00000000:Ken
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000C:00000000:Sean
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000D:00000000:Urien
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000E:00000000:Akuma
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:0000000F:00000000:Shin Akuma
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000010:00000000:Chun-Li
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000011:00000000:Makoto
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000013:00000000:Twelve
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000014:00000000:Remy
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026BB0:00000000:00000000:Gill
:sfiii3n:00000000:2007CE0:00000009:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Credits
:sfiii3n:00000000:2011377:00000063:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Time
:sfiii3n:00000001:2011377:00000001:FFFFFFFF:Finish this Round Now!
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:
:sfiii3n:00000000:2068D0B:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Energy PL1
:sfiii3n:00000001:2068D0B:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Drain All Energy Now! PL1
:sfiii3n:60000000:0000000:00000000:00000000:
:sfiii3n:00000000:20691A3:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Energy PL2
:sfiii3n:00000001:20691A3:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Drain All Energy Now! PL2
:sfiii3n:62000000:00000000:00000000:00000000:Regio n
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000001:FFFFFFFF:Japan
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000002:FFFFFFFF:Asia
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000003:FFFFFFFF:Euro
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000004:FFFFFFFF:Usa
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000005:FFFFFFFF:Hispa nic
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Brazi l
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000007:FFFFFFFF:Ocean ia
:sfiii3n:A0010000:0001FECB:00000008:FFFFFFFF:Korea
:sfiii3n:A0000100:0001FECB:000000FF:FFFFFFFF:Free Region select
:sfiii3n:62000000:00000000:00000000:00000000:CD Check
:sfiii3n:A0310000:0001FECC:0B000000:FFFFFFFF:False
:sfiii3n:A0310000:0001FECC:00000000:FFFFFFFF:True
:sfiii3n:00000000:20695B5:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Power PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:20695FD:00000060:FFFFFFFF:Always Stunned PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:20695FD:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Never Stunned PL1
:sfiii3n:00000000:20695E1:000000A0:FFFFFFFF:Infini te Power PL2
:sfiii3n:00000000:2069611:00000060:FFFFFFFF:Always Stunned PL2
:sfiii3n:00000000:2069611:00000000:FFFFFFFF:Never Stunned PL2
:sfiii3n:00000000:2026335:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL1
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026337:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL1 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00010000:2026339:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL1 (3/3)
:sfiii3n:00000000:202673B:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL2
:sfiii3n:00010000:202673D:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL2 (2/3)
:sfiii3n:00010000:202673F:00000006:FFFFFFFF:Auto Blocking PL2 (3/3)

Enable Infinite Power P1/P2, Infinite Time, and Infinite Energy P1/P2. Also, if you want to get a perspective on how much damage you're doing this is what I do: I disable the cheats using F6 and then before you/the computer/second player dies hit F6 again and they'll go back up to full health and the time will reset. There's also Auto Blocking and Stun Settings found by people in this thread earlier on (props to you guys these are nifty).

BTW: that also lets you choose the stage and play as Shin Akuma/Gill.

If you don't know how to enable cheats, I'll give you a walk through just tell me. This is for MAME32 (which includes ++).

[Henaki]

holy shit thanks man, telling me how to enable cheats would be great too haha :(

i honestly didnt expect for that to known so fast. and yeah i have the mame32 version

[Johneh]

holy shit thanks man, telling me how to enable cheats would be great too haha :(

i honestly didnt expect for that to known so fast. and yeah i have the mame32 version


I'm still hoping more stuff gets discovered, although that doesn't seem too likely.

Anyways, if you're using the No CD Rom you can copy and paste all of the aforementioned cheats into a file named cheat.dat (open up a notepad copy and paste the cheats and save the file as cheat.dat). Then place that file in your MAME directory (the mame directory with MAME and MAME.ini not any subfolders).

Now, you're going to have to enable cheats in MAME, because for whatever reason they're usually set to off by default. Open up MAME.ini in Notepad and scroll down till you see the section Core Misc Options in that section there should be Cheat and to the right of Cheat there should be either a 1 or a 0.

0, of course means off.
1, of course means on.

Replace the 0 with a 1. Then save the file. Fire up MAME and run SFIII:3s No CD (very important that it's No CD, if you aren't using the NoCD version I'll give you the cheats for the original version too). Now when in game hit Tab > go to Cheats > go to Enable Cheats and there should be all the cheats.

For more information (and probably a more thorough explanation) go to these sites:
http://www.mame.net/mamefaq.html#h11
http://www.mame.net/mamefaq.html#h12

[Henaki]

thx man!

[Al Bundy]

what version of mame works well with 3s and also I have a logitech pc controller. Does mame have a 8 button layout so I can change the controll scheme as the ps2 with L1 and L2 as 3ppp, 3kkk? On the nebula site it says added feature 8 button support for version 1.0a, but on the cps3 emu there's only 6.

[Henaki]

you cant map 3PPP and 3KKK without some sort of input program such as joy2key i think.

8 button support means the emulator supports up to 8 different inputs besides joystick, not that its the console version.

[Johneh]

what version of mame works well with 3s and also I have a logitech pc controller. Does mame have a 8 button layout so I can change the controll scheme as the ps2 with L1 and L2 as 3ppp, 3kkk? On the nebula site it says added feature 8 button support for version 1.0a, but on the cps3 emu there's only 6.

Yes, you can. I would set L2 as 3ppp and L1 as hard punch. What you do is you set the LP, MP, HP and then set another buttons as the same for them (after you set a button if you select the same button again it adds the button to your scheme, pressing ESC will set the field to 'none'). Confused? This is my layout (I'm using a 360 controller the Z Button is actually the left/right trigger):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/prozaccat/controls.png

So say I wanna do Akuma's ppp special, I'd just hit DDD + Left Trigger.

[Ryu & Ken]

can I play CPS3 on x-box, I mean is it out yet?

[Crap]

Yes it is, and yet its not as big as I thought.

[SuupaBuu]

If anyone is interested, I am creating a palette editor for 3s. I am not very good at programming so it is time consuming for me. If enough people want it done ill complete it. If not, I'll move on. Preview:

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3003bl7.png

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3005fl9.png

[Shodokan123]

If anyone is interested, I am creating a palette editor for 3s. I am not very good at programming so it is time consuming for me. If enough people want it done ill complete it. If not, I'll move on. Preview:

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3003bl7.png

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3005fl9.png

you'd make people's lives if u did that

[EveryFlowerFlow]

If anyone is interested, I am creating a palette editor for 3s. I am not very good at programming so it is time consuming for me. If enough people want it done ill complete it. If not, I'll move on. Preview:

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3003bl7.png

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3005fl9.png

yes plz!!!111. after all this time I still haven't found the hex values for palettes which rom file are they in?

[Johneh]

If anyone is interested, I am creating a palette editor for 3s. I am not very good at programming so it is time consuming for me. If enough people want it done ill complete it. If not, I'll move on. Preview:

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3003bl7.png

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3005fl9.png

You sir are a pioneer, and while I cannot help you I want you to know I'm completely behind your cause.

[YellowS4]

If anyone is interested, I am creating a palette editor for 3s. I am not very good at programming so it is time consuming for me. If enough people want it done ill complete it. If not, I'll move on. Preview:

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3003bl7.png

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfiii3005fl9.png

FUCKEN WOW.

[b00mshakalaka]

is there a "defenitive" guide on how to install and run this game,like what clients and software to use? so I can get this game running,cause im technologically impaired.
I know we cant talk about roms so im not gonna ask about that stuff
-would appreciate much help

[str[e]ak]

^the funny thing is that you might not even get a chance before POOF you're gone.

[MaybeMemories]

omg completley pink chunli.
hola at me, im a programmer, what language u using?

[str[e]ak]

oh, and suupabuu, GREAT WORK. i suck at programming, so i'm going to support what you're doing. :tup:

[Stanman]

I've been trying to play this with my cousin on kaillera, but I can't get it to work. Is there something special that I have to do? We both have the same emulator and the same no cd japan region 3rd strike rom, but whenever we start the game up we are playing two separate games. We don't see each other in the same game.

Also, does anyone know how to talk in game again?

[Spinning Beat]

I've been trying to play this with my cousin on kaillera, but I can't get it to work. Is there something special that I have to do? We both have the same emulator and the same no cd japan region 3rd strike rom, but whenever we start the game up we are playing two separate games. We don't see each other in the same game. ?

I got the same problem.

[ramza]

so does anyone have any idea what kind of computer is needed to run 3s fine offline? i got a 1.5GHZ cpu, 768 megs of RAM, and 3s just chugs along choppily. sorry if this has been asked before.

[Shodokan123]

so does anyone have any idea what kind of computer is needed to run 3s fine offline? i got a 1.5GHZ cpu, 768 megs of RAM, and 3s just chugs along choppily. sorry if this has been asked before.

if ur using mame and you use direct draw you should be fine

[EvilSamurai]

I am on a 1.7 ghz pentium 4 with 256 mb rdram and third strike runs decently...

[ramza]

thanks for the heads up, but i didn't really notice any change. music still choppy/game still running in slow motion- -. guess i need a new pc

[AcidGlow]

Your PC is fine. Just try a different video output. DD and D3D are slow for my card. I tried GDI and bingo! Full speed. You might try enabling throttle and allowing frame skip also.

[MaybeMemories]

i think mine ran too fast on DD.
so i have it back to D3D, you can even turn the biliner effects off for speed but mine was too fast

i enabled multithreading , runs fine, slow online could be my speed

[Johneh]

I've been trying to play this with my cousin on kaillera, but I can't get it to work. Is there something special that I have to do? We both have the same emulator and the same no cd japan region 3rd strike rom, but whenever we start the game up we are playing two separate games. We don't see each other in the same game.

Also, does anyone know how to talk in game again?

You hit the 'Home' key to to talk. If you don't see your message on the screen when you send it you aren't synched, if you two have that problems again both of you should reset your emulator and try again. This happens to me sometimes.

[MaybeMemories]

http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/2/I/JoyToKey/JoyToKey.htm


how do i get this to work? do i just assign up/down etc etc keys on keyboard? still cant hit diagonals on joy :(

[Henaki]

yeah assign it to keys on keyboard, then when you assign keys in game they will be associated with that keyboard press.

[MaybeMemories]

thanks, yeah it works but i cant hit diagonals, like cant super at all on stick :(

[SuupaBuu]

OK, I'll keep workin on it.

R o c k l e e: I made a small program that scrambles data and finds pointers depending on what section I put. I grabbed the data from what I found on the Xbox version.

I also found out character animation data. clsn data velocities etc etc but don't know how to tell what goes to what. With time it's separable but the method I'm using is too hard.

[Tiberious]

I just noticed something interesting when in Hugo's NG stage....

There's a reason the crowd disappears in round 2.

If you look over on the right side, you'll notice someone there who wasn't during the main festival, apparently passed out drunker'n a skunk.

If it goes to a third round, the table in the middle seems to disappear as well (one of those nice little touches that got lost in 2I, I suppose).

Apparently, the fight begins at the tail end of some kind of party in Munich (Oktoberfest, possibly?), and shuts down as it wears on...

[ha-dou-ken]

I just noticed something interesting when in Hugo's NG stage....

There's a reason the crowd disappears in round 2.

If you look over on the right side, you'll notice someone there who wasn't during the main festival, apparently passed out drunker'n a skunk.

If it goes to a third round, the table in the middle seems to disappear as well (one of those nice little touches that got lost in 2I, I suppose).

Apparently, the fight begins at the tail end of some kind of party in Munich (Oktoberfest, possibly?), and shuts down as it wears on...

I bet you lost that match lol.

[MaybeMemories]

OK, I'll keep workin on it.

R o c k l e e: I made a small program that scrambles data and finds pointers depending on what section I put. I grabbed the data from what I found on the Xbox version.

I also found out character animation data. clsn data velocities etc etc but don't know how to tell what goes to what. With time it's separable but the method I'm using is too hard.

can u post more pics or info on how ur actually changing the values? are they hex ?
what language are u using?

good work btw

[SuupaBuu]

can u post more pics or info on how ur actually changing the values? are they hex ?
what language are u using?

good work btw


I am using C++ and making a program that finds pointers, changes data how I want it to (select a range and set add, del, mul etc), and most of the stuff is hex.

If you want me to go into greater detail or if you are interested in it drop me a pm. It's kinda complicated. =/

[True Grave]

I wonder why Jojo's Bizarre adventure games had to be on CPS3. Playing it now its a great game, but graphically not as 2D intensive as something like MVC1. The games could have easily been CPS2, same goes for Red Earth i think.

Only the SFIII trilogy really needed the CPS3 horsepower.

[elvis_a_presley]

I wonder why Jojo's Bizarre adventure games had to be on CPS3. Playing it now its a great game, but graphically not as 2D intensive as something like MVC1. The games could have easily been CPS2, same goes for Red Earth i think.

Only the SFIII trilogy really needed the CPS3 horsepower.

JoJo's and Red Earth both use a lot of hardware scaling. There's no way either would work on CPS2 for that reason alone.

Remember that programmers take a while to get used to hardware as well. 3S is the last of the CPS3 games, and the programmers doing it had a lot more experience with the hardware. You can't expect games appearing on hardware in the early years to look as good as games in later years.

Ghouls and Ghosts, Knights of the round - 2 CPS1 games. Neither look anywhere near as good as Final Fight and Street Fighter 2, released on the same hardware but quite some years later.

[onimusha10154]

JoJo's and Red Earth both use a lot of hardware scaling. There's no way either would work on CPS2 for that reason alone.

Remember that programmers take a while to get used to hardware as well. 3S is the last of the CPS3 games, and the programmers doing it had a lot more experience with the hardware. You can't expect games appearing on hardware in the early years to look as good as games in later years.

Ghouls and Ghosts, Knights of the round - 2 CPS1 games. Neither look anywhere near as good as Final Fight and Street Fighter 2, released on the same hardware but quite some years later.

Yep! Another example would be Super Street Fighter 2 for CPS2. Compare that with MvC1 or SFA3 towards the end of CPS2's career. Another big improvement from beginning to end.

[Manx]

Question. I can't seem to get 3rd Strike working on Nebula. What versions of Mame are you guys using? I compiled one version (forgot which) from source, but I couldn't get it to play correctly. I need to play with it more, but I'd like to get some info on what version I can run just to get up and going. thanks! :tup:

[SF3LP]

I am using C++ and making a program that finds pointers, changes data how I want it to (select a range and set add, del, mul etc), and most of the stuff is hex.

If you want me to go into greater detail or if you are interested in it drop me a pm. It's kinda complicated. =/

yo man if you do change the color palettes...you should make a dark blue colored yun with a white hat and a red yang....and the color from mk vs sf 3 (dont know if you saw it) for akuma...those colors looked effin crazy on akuma...these are just suggestions but whatever if you can change the color palletes i would love to see pics of them....good luck with that

[AcidGlow]

Cyan colored shirt for Shin Akuma in MKvsSF3 was a bad palette....

[bushin187]

In el semi cps3 emu I can't do ryu joudan move . Anyone have the same problem.
I can do it in mame but elsemi emu runs a little smoother.

anyone . Can someone please verify