Ecstasy

[ChaosNightWolf]

Has anyone tried it?

[TrunksSS3]

NO why would you?

[debs]

this is something you should let your girl try. don't think guys should fk with it, from what i heard...i think my gf is willing to do it but i think her job has random drug tests...how long does it stay in a person's system?

[Javid]

this is something you should let your girl try. don't think guys should fk with it, from what i heard...i think my gf is willing to do it but i think her job has random drug tests...how long does it stay in a person's system?

Why would you even let your girl try that? You are aware that such drugs will fuck with you in ways you can't even imagine. I guess your girl must be really stupid for listening to you, or you dick her real good.

[SNAAAAKE]

bored with marvel ??

I heard it gives a boner that last about 3-4 hours or something :confused:

[Weecho]

I nver tried ecstasy. I think that I would enjoy it more if i chilled with a bitch,.

[Javid]

bored with marvel ??

I heard it gives a boner that last about 3-4 hours or something :confused:

No, it doesn't help you get an erection. However, it increases your "sexual senses" incredibly. Combine this with Viagra and you get:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sextasy

[insanelee]

well once you do get a boner whether with viagra or not itll last for daaaaaaaays

[Lei Mana]

I tried it during my vacation last year. I went to a club named Cocoon with my girlfriend and we had been talking about doing it because she has done it before. She got the stuff from a guy at the club and gave me one. I remember going to the bar to get water and her asking me if I was "high" yet. I thought she gave me some bootleg shit cuz a good 20 minutes went by. We sat at this couch and I layed down for a second but then a warm feeling in my groin area made me panic. I sat up and tried to figure out if I pissed myself or not without it looking to obvious to my girl and all her female friends (which were fucking hot too). After about 2 minutes of "piss panic" you forget about it and then it's just gravy from there. I don't think I had a hard on all night at the club but everything did feel really good. If you plan on doing it, then I recommend doing it with a girl that won't mind you hugging, dancing, and kissing up on all night. We had sex in our hotel after the club but I was already coming off the effects so I can't say whether or not it was that much better than normal sex. I'm sure if I had sex at the peek of the effects then it would be some incredible shit but alas I have no clue. That's my story.

[RockBogart]

It puts holes in your brain. Thats all your really need to know.

[POPNWAFFLES]

It puts holes in your brain. Thats all your really need to know.

I think you're talking about Olneys lesions which usually only appear with people who use dissociatives. Which ecstasy is not.

[Demon Dash]

Fuck E's man, it may seem fun at the time, but two or three years down the line, if you're still taking that shit, you'll be wishing you never started. I was addicted to anphetemines for a good year although I was using them for maybe three years. I would say I took on average around 10 - 15 a week, which certainly isn't a good thing at all. The buzz is nice, infact, real nice, but it can mess with not only your mind, but your personal life aswell. I now dispise the drug to every kind of level, the feeling I used to love now makes me feel sick and I can say I will never take the drug again, along with all other anphetemines (or man made drugs). I've suffered severely over the past few years for missusing the drug and I would advise anyone not to fall in the same hole.

[RockBogart]

I think you're talking about Olneys lesions which usually only appear with people who use dissociatives. Which ecstasy is not.

Well not physical holes but lack of blood flow to certain areas which show up as holes in the scan. But anything that limits blood flow in the brain for an extended period of time isn't worth it. Just don't be that guy who is buzzing all the time. They tend to become dead weight to friends.

[KING]

yes. with a stripper and her ecstacy-dealing friends to boot. we had fun that night. :)

[POPNWAFFLES]

Well not physical holes but lack of blood flow to certain areas which show up as holes in the scan. But anything that limits blood flow in the brain for an extended period of time isn't worth it. Just don't be that guy who is buzzing all the time. They tend to become dead weight to friends.

Yeah, it doesn't help your body at all.

[Demon Dash]

Lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eitJf7eHT-Y

[Mixah]

Arthur......
seriously........

what the fuck? don't make me slap you.

[plasmakill]

It's fun at first, gets old fast. Not to mention the shit is really bad for you and makes you feel like shit after doing it. I did it for years while raving and I don't feel I was ever really addicted to it though.

Oh and sex is amazing thats the one thing I kinda miss.

[Amazed]

It puts holes in your brain. Thats all your really need to know.

Idiot.

Tried it. Tons of fun!*

*when you're 16.

[plasmakill]

Yea, I tried it. Only once though.

Usually, I'm a chill guy but when I was on the stuff, I was yelling and cursing at people and Fuck The World Like Tupac; I was fully aware of the fact that all my inhibitions were let loose and I was making a fool of myself, it's just I didn't give a PHAWK.

I made friends into enemies that day. From that point on, I swore never to touch the stuff again.

Umm that doesn't side sound like the bahavior of someone rollin. You sure you didn't like get some crack or something instead?

[angryliberal]

i love the drug convos on srk. always insightful and full of quality researched information.

i've taken e. multiple times. had a good time each time. like with all drugs, know your body, know your source and know the drug and you will be fine. it's ignorance to drugs that make them dangerous.

also, sometimes you make a sacrifice between what is the most healthy and your own enjoyment. people drink, people smoke, people eat fatty food...drugs are just another indulgence. you just need to be responsible about your drug use, know what you are getting, all the risks, how you can reduce the risks of said drug, and whether that drug is something you want to try. i'm not saying all drugs are good for everyone, but there is a severe misconception about drugs in this country. do yourself a favor, read. don't take any drug without knowing all about it. i find that www.erowid.org is the best source of information and articles about most drugs, plant, and chemicals.

[Arsenal]

10 beers + 2 hits of X = 8 straight hours of dancing. And sex. Oh so good...

edit: Lei Mana has it right, try it with a chick who you already flirt with anyway... that shit'll work wonders on both you.

[Demon Dash]

10 beers + 2 hits of X = 8 straight hours of dancing. And sex. Oh so good...

edit: Lei Mana has it right, try it with a chick who you already flirt with anyway... that shit'll work wonders on both you.
Yeah, that's if you're not so mashed you confess your undesired love...

Also E + drinking = fail... E + smoking on the other hand, that's a completely different story...

[plasmakill]

Yeah, that's if you're not so mashed you confess your undesired love...

Also E + drinking = fail... E + smoking on the other hand, that's a completely different story...

QFT

Alcohol always killed the effects for me. Smoking enhances it, though you'll blow like a oz in one night lol.

[Xero Kaiser]

Hell no. There's no fucking way that bullshit is worth the potential risk.

[Soundatron]

I tried for the first time last month. My g/f did it only once before by herself, had no fun and was willing to try it again but only if I tried it with her. So we took it and......nothing. The only effect we really had was that our eyeballs felt really warm lol. Besides no sex no nothing, god what a dissapointment. So we got some skeet E. I'm willing to try it again with her just once for a succesful effect and lots of sex aw gyeah!

[Havoc]

snip

Truth.


You guys are really funny. Coming in here with spook stories and shit...

E is fun. It's also an addictive drug that can cause harmful side effects if abused.

SO... instead of being an idiot and A) being a pussy and letting some spook stories scare you off of it or B) being the idiot who inspires these spook stories by misusing the drug, you can...

C) read up on the shit, and use it in a way that won't cause detrimental long term effects!

Hooray for logic.

E is great in moderation (like... well... anything good in life, pretty much). It can burn you out if you develop a chemical dependency, so... um... don't develop a chemical dependency.

I've been doing E for about a year now. I don't do it very often, so I'm not addicted at all. I don't need it to feel happy on a regular basis. I'm no dumber now, than I was before I started. I actually feel much better the day after I roll than a day after I drink. I like it much more than weed (there's really no contest) or alcohol.

I say try it. Learn about it so you're safe, and give it a go.

[Demon Dash]

QFT

Alcohol always killed the effects for me. Smoking enhances it, though you'll blow like a oz in one night lol.
Not only that, but drinking while on E is a sure way to kill your self... Most of Ecstasy related deaths are from dehydration, not neccisarally taking Ecstasy it's self. It's vital that you drink (not gulp, necking back too much water can cause fluid on the brain) plenty of water to keep you hydrated, not alcohol which has the opposite effect.

Smoking weed on the other hand is perfectly fine, the only real effects it can have on you while on E is paranoia, which if you're already on E at the time, probably wont do anything but intensify the experience. I used to find that smoking before taking would cause me to have a bad come up, ruining the experience...

[Wild Kitty]

Ecstacy is a great drug. It's probably the only thing besides pot and shrooms I would actually suggest to somebody that they try once in their life. I did my research and everything before I took it the first time and I had a blast. I take it maybe 3 times a year, I think I've done it like 6 times total. Nevre had a bad experience with it, always had a good time and it really is great for opening your mind up and experiencing things from a different perspective. They call it ecstacy for a reason.


anyway,a bout all that "holes in your brain" thing. I can't quote names/articles/sources because those holes in my brain probably lost the information. Regardless, Peter Jennings actually did a special report on ABC (check google video or youtube, I'll see if I can find it and edit this later) that lasted like an hour and it brings up a lot of interesting information and misinformation on ecstacy.

Did you know that the guy the government paid to do all the ecstacy testing actually used a drug that wasn't ecstacy (It was meth) and reported these "holes in the brain" as causes of even a single use of ecstacy when it was entirely untrue. He has admitted that he used the wrong drug but this information still hasn't been taken away and people believe it.

A recent German test on ecstacy have showed that the casual user may experience a low serotonin level (I believe) for a day or so after the effects have worn off but nothing long-term. Ecstacy simply hasn't been around long enough or in use long enough to show any side effects beyond about 20 years of use. So far the casual user (once a month or so) has shown to have no negative side effects of using ecstacy outside of that 1 to 2 day recovery period.

Just be smart about your usage (10-15 yimes a week? Christ dude) and you'll be alright.

EDIT: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1564288654365150131 <---link to Peter Jennings "Ecstasy Rising" documentary - 43mins long

All that stuff I said is in there plus a lot more interesting facts.

[SFFanatic]

Winners don't do drugs.

[Kix]

It's also an addictive drug that can cause harmful side effects if abused.
.

Or, perhaps seeing what you said there avoiding it all together is not being a pussy.

[Soundatron]

Winners don't do drugs.

now we know

:waiting for it:

[Demon Dash]

Winners don't do drugs.
Totally untrue... (http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/mensworld/69schwarzenegger.jpg)

[Xero Kaiser]

SO... instead of being an idiot and A) being a pussy and letting some spook stories scare you off of it or B) being the idiot who inspires these spook stories by misusing the drug, you can...

C) read up on the shit, and use it in a way that won't cause detrimental long term effects!

D) Don't put yourself in the position to get fucked up in the first place

Has nothing to do with being a pussy, an idiot or illogical. I'm sure nobody drinks with the intention of fucking up their liver or dying in a car wreck or starts doing drugs with the intention of OD'ing or ending up in rehab, but you know what? It happens. And it happens often enough that I don't feel the need to play russian roulette with it.

[Arsenal]

Not only that, but drinking while on E is a sure way to kill your self... Most of Ecstasy related deaths are from dehydration, not neccisarally taking Ecstasy it's self. It's vital that you drink (not gulp, necking back too much water can cause fluid on the brain) plenty of water to keep you hydrated, not alcohol which has the opposite effect.

Smoking weed on the other hand is perfectly fine, the only real effects it can have on you while on E is paranoia, which if you're already on E at the time, probably wont do anything but intensify the experience. I used to find that smoking before taking would cause me to have a bad come up, ruining the experience...

Truth. I did it with some family members, which had done E previously. They kept me hydrated w/ water. I was dancing for 8 hours, sweating up a storm. Once every 5 minutes, they gave me water until I cooled down and stoppe dancing. Trippy shit. I'm glad I experienced it firsthand, but won't do it again. Not for me. Plus, had a killer hangover the next day (mostly from the beer), heard voices in my head (mostly from the E), and was sore for a week (mostly from the dancing).

[Bobbypigo]

Truth.


You guys are really funny. Coming in here with spook stories and shit...

E is fun. It's also an addictive drug that can cause harmful side effects if abused.

SO... instead of being an idiot and A) being a pussy and letting some spook stories scare you off of it or B) being the idiot who inspires these spook stories by misusing the drug, you can...

C) read up on the shit, and use it in a way that won't cause detrimental long term effects!

Hooray for logic.

E is great in moderation (like... well... anything good in life, pretty much). It can burn you out if you develop a chemical dependency, so... um... don't develop a chemical dependency.

I've been doing E for about a year now. I don't do it very often, so I'm not addicted at all. I don't need it to feel happy on a regular basis. I'm no dumber now, than I was before I started. I actually feel much better the day after I roll than a day after I drink. I like it much more than weed (there's really no contest) or alcohol.

I say try it. Learn about it so you're safe, and give it a go.

QFT. I wish you fuck-nuts would do some research before jumping on the Ronald Reagan war on drugs bandwagon.

[Havoc]

Or, perhaps seeing what you said there avoiding it all together is not being a pussy.

Pizza can also kill you if abused. You can die if you drink too much water in one sitting.

People have been known to slip on soap in the shower and die.

Car accidents kill people also.

So, do you avoid pizza, water, showers, and driving?

D) Don't put yourself in the position to get fucked up in the first place

Has nothing to do with being a pussy, an idiot or illogical. I'm sure nobody drinks with the intention of fucking up their liver or dying in a car wreck or starts doing drugs with the intention of OD'ing or ending up in rehab, but you know what? It happens. And it happens often enough that I don't feel the need to play russian roulette with it.

It's not Russian Roulette. You are in complete control over what you do.

It's not about intentions... it's about actions.

I drink. I also know about the long term (and short term) effects, so I don't indulge in alcohol THAT much (I used to... but I knew I had to cut it out eventually, which I have). I also don't drive while drunk. It's not random when a drunk driving incident occurs. It's because of negligence. Same with OD'ing on drugs. It's negligence, not random bad luck. If you aren't negligent, you won't have the problems associated with negligence. It's really that simple.

If you aren't capable of controlling yourself, then, yeah, you probably shouldn't embark on any path that's potentially dangerous. That's no fault of the drug though; that's your own.

Good luck with life with that kind of attitude too. I'd hate to be scared of anything that's potentially harmful.

[Yansoma]

Sometimes this place kills me with the ignorance. It's like a bad high school health class with every nerd blurting out every possible stereotypical "puts holes in your brain" phrase. There is a reason ecstasy is like a chapter 11 drug along with weed and prescription medications (with things like heroin/meth being the most dangerous at 1).

Drugs, just like anything else, depend entirely on the people using them. If the person is a dumbass then something bad will probably happen.


Whoever said they heard voices in their head is probably just crazy; I seriously doubt a drug that releases serotonin would induce that effect.

[Bobbypigo]

Winners don't do drugs.

You fool!!!
Ive won high, Ive won not high. I win!!!

[Wild Kitty]

You fool!!!
Ive won high, Ive won not high. I win!!!

Word, what's good w/ Wednesday marvel!?!?!?

GET THAT SHIT! Fucking weird ass "Welcome to 2001" assists. LOL

[angryliberal]

first off, don't drink and do e...it's a surefire way to fuck yourself. you don't put two dehydrating chemicals into your body at once, especially while dancing and shit. you'll kill yourself and become yet another statistic the givernment will use in it's fear campaign against drugs and drug use.

drugs aren't for everyone. i never suggest anyone just go out and try a drug. if it's not your thing, cool. i got no problem with totally sober people. if it's your thing, go with it. i do, however, have a problem with self-righteous ass fucks who think it's thier place to prove their superiority by blindly bashing soemthing they have no real experience with.

i've done my share of drugs in my life. some i'll never do again like coke and some i enjoy on a moderate basis like weed. that's me though. every person has to make that choice for themselves. their is no "right" way to handle the drug issue, like all things in life, it comes down to the individual. addiction is addiction. if you get addicted toa drug and let it run your life, you have not taken the time to realise where your levels of control are.

last point i'd like to make is this. DO NOT listen to any drug statistics or "facts" that came out during the reagan administration. it's all bs.

[b1gazn]

dont do it man

[Xero Kaiser]

So, do you avoid pizza, water, showers, and driving?

The difference being that eating and drinking is kind of important if you plan on living, good hygiene doesn't hurt either.

If you aren't capable of controlling yourself, then, yeah, you probably shouldn't embark on any path that's potentially dangerous. That's no fault of the drug though; that's your own.

I fail to see why self control means I'm obligated to take drugs. The rewards aren't worth the risk to me, that's all. It's nothing to do with being scared or any of that 5th grade bullshit.

[sbw]

anyway,a bout all that "holes in your brain" thing. I can't quote names/articles/sources because those holes in my brain probably lost the information. Regardless, Peter Jennings actually did a special report on ABC (check google video or youtube, I'll see if I can find it and edit this later) that lasted like an hour and it brings up a lot of interesting information and misinformation on ecstacy.

Did you know that the guy the government paid to do all the ecstacy testing actually used a drug that wasn't ecstacy (It was meth) and reported these "holes in the brain" as causes of even a single use of ecstacy when it was entirely untrue. He has admitted that he used the wrong drug but this information still hasn't been taken away and people believe it.

A recent German test on ecstacy have showed that the casual user may experience a low serotonin level (I believe) for a day or so after the effects have worn off but nothing long-term. Ecstacy simply hasn't been around long enough or in use long enough to show any side effects beyond about 20 years of use. So far the casual user (once a month or so) has shown to have no negative side effects of using ecstacy outside of that 1 to 2 day recovery period.

Just be smart about your usage (10-15 yimes a week? Christ dude) and you'll be alright.

EDIT: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1564288654365150131 <---link to Peter Jennings "Ecstasy Rising" documentary - 43mins long

All that stuff I said is in there plus a lot more interesting facts.


thank god Im not the only person that saw this. The guy who did all the initial testing was completely funded/paid off by the gov't.

I've had so many good times w/ it, but if you get a bad one, it can ruin your night, thats for sure.

[Wild Kitty]

The difference being that eating and drinking is kind of important if you plan on living, good hygiene doesn't hurt either.



I fail to see why self control means I'm obligated to take drugs. The rewards aren't worth the risk to me. It's the same reason I don't drink or smoke. But the idea of doing something to "get fucked up" never appealed to me, so whatever.

THat's cool and all man. If it's not for you, it's not for you.

You just come off as REALLY condescending in your first post by calling it "bullshit" and "the reward isn't work the potential risk". You just have to be smart about it. I'm sure everyone knows things that they do are bad if there's risk involved, but it doesn't mean that we won't forgo that risk and go for it anyway. There's risks involved with everything, you just have to make a smart decision at the time and figure out what you want to do.

[NOBITA KUN]

my daugter was concieved while me and my ex wife were fucking for like 6 hours on ectasy......my exwife felt weird 2 days later toook a pregnacy test and whalla!!! she was pregnant ...then we formed a pack not to do drugs ever again...and we stuck to it.....atleast i know i have even after the divorce.......i consider me and my ex spouse lucky that we were able to quit drugs....we actually wanted to have a baby.....but we used to trip alot also......she really turned me out on alot of drugs back then I guess she took my virginity in more ways the one.....and in retrospect if i would have never got with her she would have never got off of drugs and would have wound up in jail or on the streets.....as painful as the divorce was.....i saved her in alot of ways


Ectasy is fun but i prefer real sex....i mean after you bust 10 nuts and its 4 hours laster it gets to be to much and you lose reality with what shit supposed to feel like.....plus you really dont want to have anything have that much control over you.....thats my take on it

[Arsenal]

Whoever said they heard voices in their head is probably just crazy; I seriously doubt a drug that releases serotonin would induce that effect.

Uh, I definitely did hear voices in my head. It was approximately 48 hours after I took two hits of X, and consumed about 10 cans of beer as well (a little bit of pot was smoked too, but really little, not enough to be significant). The voices I was hearing was mine, but it was telling me to do crazy, violent shit. That freaked me out a lot.

Don't believe me, fine. But why would I lie?

[angryliberal]

yeah, e shouldn't make you hear voices...especially not days later...it doesn't take long for it to exit your body. i would say the voices may have been triggered by a relaxation in your control of your brain, but it is more likely an issue you should have looked at now...

oh, and don't take drugs if that's what happens to you...

[SFFanatic]

angry, you know the whole SRK Battle Royale thing is over right?

[Havoc]

The difference being that eating and drinking is kind of important if you plan on living, good hygiene doesn't hurt either.

Eating pizza isn't a necessity for living.

I fail to see why self control means I'm obligated to take drugs. The rewards aren't worth the risk to me, that's all. It's nothing to do with being scared or any of that 5th grade bullshit.

Nobody says you have to do drugs. These are all personal decisions.

You make it seem like doing drugs is just idiotic, and no sane, logical person could come to the decision to do any kind of drugs. Sorry, but I find that needlessly condescending, and (more importantly) absolutely incorrect.

I bring up self control because it debunks your theories on drugs. Anything is dangerous without self control, and the proper knowledge. It's not the drug that is the issue here so much as ignorance, and lack of discipline.

[GETBUZZIN]

gay thread

[Arsenal]

yeah, e shouldn't make you hear voices...especially not days later...it doesn't take long for it to exit your body. i would say the voices may have been triggered by a relaxation in your control of your brain, but it is more likely an issue you should have looked at now...

oh, and don't take drugs if that's what happens to you...

I thought E has a half-life of 9-15 hours. I took two hits at once. Damn... maybe I should have myself checked out? I only heard voices for a night, then in the morning, I was "OK", but still sore as fuck.

[Demon Dash]

yeah, e shouldn't make you hear voices...especially not days later...it doesn't take long for it to exit your body. i would say the voices may have been triggered by a relaxation in your control of your brain, but it is more likely an issue you should have looked at now...

oh, and don't take drugs if that's what happens to you...
It depends what's in the tablet it's self, a lot of tablets come with things like LSD in them, so hallucinations can be an effect. I've had my fair share of hallicinations while on E, that's for sure...

Actually, Ecastasy tablets can have anything in them... I'm horrified to say that I've actualy had things like Heroin and Ketamine in my blood stream from taking them.

[angryliberal]

i've never rolled for more than 4-6 hours on a single pill before...i usually do 3 in a good party night and i'm sober by the morning...

edit: also, on the "could include lsd" thing, i find that hard to believe, lsd is a much more expensive drug. that's like cutting weed with cocaine...

[Soundatron]

Eating pizza isn't a necessity for living.


um yes it is. Espcially if you are a ninja turtle.

[Arsenal]

i've never rolled for more than 4-6 hours on a single pill before...i usually do 3 in a good party night and i'm sober by the morning...

edit: also, on the "could include lsd" thing, i find that hard to believe, lsd is a much more expensive drug. that's like cutting weed with cocaine...

but you have to admit that when we're talking about street drugs, you don't REALLY know what is in the pill, or in what amount. I paid $25 for each pill, and that was w/ a family discount. I think he sold them for $35 each. I don't kow anything about drugs or what they cost, but is that normal for E?

[Bobbypigo]

Word, what's good w/ Wednesday marvel!?!?!?

GET THAT SHIT! Fucking weird ass "Welcome to 2001" assists. LOL

Yeah baby. . OLD SCHOOL!! Yo Kitty, lets do it man. I down for Wednseday.


last point i'd like to make is this. DO NOT listen to any drug statistics or "facts" that came out during the reagan administration. it's all bs.

Word is bond!

[NOBITA KUN]

but you have to admit that when we're talking about street drugs, you don't REALLY know what is in the pill, or in what amount. I paid $25 for each pill, and that was w/ a family discount. I think he sold them for $35 each. I don't kow anything about drugs or what they cost, but is that normal for E?

I was fortuanate enuff back in the day (and this is like 10 years ago) to have some friends of my exwifes that had a pill pressing machines that were makeing great X.....i for get all the names....but the pills were infamous in the scene of raves and underground hip hop back then....so we were takeing less risk.....i could never imagine the risk your takeing these days since there is so much crap and lo quality poison out there.....its literally like spinning the barrel and pulling the trigger

[angryliberal]

but you have to admit that when we're talking about street drugs, you don't REALLY know what is in the pill, or in what amount. I paid $25 for each pill, and that was w/ a family discount. I think he sold them for $35 each. I don't kow anything about drugs or what they cost, but is that normal for E?

depends on where you are. in ny or ca, you aren't going to see proces that high because there is a HUGE market for the drugs, so everyone and their grandma is selling. you get more price control. its the same way dirt weed is sold at chronic prices in the midwest...i would never pay more than 15-20 for a pill, but i always buy in bulk and sell off what i don't chomp...makes for free rolling in the end...

but yeah, no way a dealer is going to waste lsd on a pill...you can make so much more selling the lsd as is...

angry, you know the whole SRK Battle Royale thing is over right?

is it? anyways, this is simple informing. i have no interest in stomping on toes, i just wanna lay down some facts and offer different points of view based on my own experiences in the drug world, which i imagine is much vaster than most people on this board...

[Demon Dash]

i've never rolled for more than 4-6 hours on a single pill before...i usually do 3 in a good party night and i'm sober by the morning...

edit: also, on the "could include lsd" thing, i find that hard to believe, lsd is a much more expensive drug. that's like cutting weed with cocaine...
So's Heroin, but that doesn't stop people from making speckled tablets... E's come with anything and everything, you never know what's in them. I do know that I've had tablets that have been dipped with acid though, so it does happen. You have to remember though street value doesn't add up to production value, otherwise there would be no reason to make the stuff in the first place...

As for price, it used to be $10 a tablet here when I started out. It then went to 3 for $20 and after a while, even 5 for $20. Now you can pick them up for $3 or $4 each, in bulk you could probably get them for $1.50 each...

[DaemoN_]

Fuck Ecstasy
Get some DMT http://youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

[zer0_858]

heh I got head for 4 hours straight on "E" and let me tell you... one of my best nights EVER~!!!

[Arsenal]

Fuck I got ripped off... and it was from family (but family by marriage, not blood). I definitely heard voices, don't know if my pill was laced with something else, but I definitely heard myself talking to myself, telling me to do violent shit to my family. Shit had me scared as fuck. I kept rubbing my knees to keep my hands busy for a few hours that night.

[Xero Kaiser]

You make it seem like doing drugs is just idiotic, and no sane, logical person could come to the decision to do any kind of drugs. Sorry, but I find that needlessly condescending, and (more importantly) absolutely incorrect.

I don't recall saying that. I just looked at the consequences, looked at the rewards and decided that I'm not going to fuck with it because it's not worth it to me. At no point did I say anything negative about you and anyone else who's doing it. And yes, pretty much everything has the potential to be dangerous. But that doesn't mean that drinking a glass of water is just as bad as snorting lines of coke off your toilet, or that walking outside and getting hit by lightning is a likely as getting killed by a drunk driver. Some things are naturally more dangerous than others and the only thing I ever said was that I don't think the risk is worth it.

Then you came in here with all the "stop being an idiot and get some E", "you're going through life scared" talk and I'm the one being condescending?

[HuStLeMaN17]

I think Forrest Gump sums this up for us, "Life's like a box of chocolates,. You never know what you're gonna get." Always keep this in mind while taking E.

[angryliberal]

So's Heroin, but that doesn't stop people from making speckled tablets... E's come with anything and everything, you never know what's in them. I do know that I've had tablets that have been dipped with acid though, so it does happen. You have to remember though street value doesn't add up to production value, otherwise there would be no reason to make the stuff in the first place...

As for price, it used to be $10 a tablet here when I started out. It then went to 3 for $20 and after a while, even 5 for $20. Now you can pick them up for $3 or $4 each, in bulk you could probably get them for $1.50 each...

the price you pay alone proves they aren't cutting it with expensive drugs. look at it this way. say you sell peanuts. the peanuts cost you 10 dollars for a 10 pound bag when you buy wholesale. you sell the peanuts for a fixed low proce based off your cost and the market cost of the peanuts. you aren't going to then decide to buy almonds too and add them to the peanuts for the same cost when the almonds cost 25 dollars for the same amount. you have effectively destroyed all notions of profit. you would instead sell them seperate, with a higher price for the almonds. that's the basic idea behind cutting drugs. you cut e with other chemicals that may produce similar experiences but cost you less to produce.

this is athe root of my skepticism on putting lsd into pills.

[jae hoon]

X does fuck people up but not for reasons people think. I would say about 90 percent of X isnt pure. It is usually cut in with PCP or LSD or Weed or a combination of all of them if not something else. I have had people see my phone fighting a pepsi can, have a dragon think they were coming after them and all types of other weird shit after taking X.

[Arsenal]

I think Forrest Gump sums this up for us, "Life's like a box of chocolates,. You never know what you're gonna get." Always keep this in mind while taking E.

Haha. But seriously, I'm pissed I got ripped off so bad... and by my brother-in-law too. The way I look at it though is this; if you make $14/hour, and spend $50 on drugs, you just worked roughly 4 hours to pay that $50.

But...

If I'm high for 8 straight hours, which I was, then I got pretty good value for my money; roughly $7 for each hour I was high. Not bad.

angry: i paid $25 for each pill (bought two), an my brother-in-law said he usually sells them for $35 each. I live in the midwest. Do you think he took me for a ride? like i posted earlier, i did hear voices (hallucinogen?) too. do you think i got some higher grade stuff or do you thinkmy bro-in-law just took advantage of me not knowing shit about drugs/prices/effects/etc..

[angryliberal]

how the fuck are you gonna cut a pill with weed? mash it into a powder? i've heard a lot of stories of what people put in e, but NEVER weed...

[POPNWAFFLES]

X does fuck people up but not for reasons people think. I would say about 90 percent of X isnt pure. It is usually cut in with PCP or LSD or Weed or a combination of all of them if not something else. I have had people see my phone fighting a pepsi can, have a dragon think they were coming after them and all types of other weird shit after taking X.

Are you fucking joking?

[jae hoon]

Edit yeah that is my mistake on the Weed thing. But the other shit really does happen.

Pure X isnt that harmful though, you just dont see it that often.

Waffles no not joking, he told me personally. He was scared to turn the lights off for fear that the dragon was going to get him. He had a triple stack of X that night.

[HuStLeMaN17]

Actually they usually lace E with Coke, sometimes lsd but usually coke.

[angryliberal]

i think you guys have some serious mis-information about what mdma is cut with...i've had plenty of pills and i've known plenty of pill makers...none of them would ever waste any of the drugs mentioned here on pills.

[thurst]

cut with weed?
*tries to maintain a straight face*

edit: fuck, gotta refresh quicker

[POPNWAFFLES]

Actually they usually lace E with Coke, sometimes lsd but usually coke.

Or you know something cheap, like caffeine or otc medicine...

[jae hoon]

Or you know something cheap, like caffeine or otc medicine...

I guess it depends on where you live, alot of it in Wash was laced with either LSD or Coke.

When I was in the army a friend of mine used to pop X during lunch then go down to work in the motor pool. Shit was funny as hell.

[angryliberal]

http://www.ecstasydata.org/

[Arsenal]

So... if a chick that is hella flirtatious w/ me wants to hang out and do some E (she's never done it, but wanted to), I'm guessing that I should see where the night takes us? But at the same time, I don't want any "date-rape type shit hitting me in the face the next morning...

Damn drugs and hot girls.

[POPNWAFFLES]

http://www.ecstasydata.org/

BINGO!

[Javid]

first off, don't drink and do e...it's a surefire way to fuck yourself. you don't put two dehydrating chemicals into your body at once, especially while dancing and shit. you'll kill yourself and become yet another statistic the givernment will use in it's fear campaign against drugs and drug use.

drugs aren't for everyone. i never suggest anyone just go out and try a drug. if it's not your thing, cool. i got no problem with totally sober people. if it's your thing, go with it. i do, however, have a problem with self-righteous ass fucks who think it's thier place to prove their superiority by blindly bashing soemthing they have no real experience with.

i've done my share of drugs in my life. some i'll never do again like coke and some i enjoy on a moderate basis like weed. that's me though. every person has to make that choice for themselves. their is no "right" way to handle the drug issue, like all things in life, it comes down to the individual. addiction is addiction. if you get addicted toa drug and let it run your life, you have not taken the time to realise where your levels of control are.

last point i'd like to make is this. DO NOT listen to any drug statistics or "facts" that came out during the reagan administration. it's all bs.

See I can respect your point fully, but the problem is that most people don't take drugs the way you do. Seriously, if people were responsible like you when it comes to taking drugs, than yeah maybe we have something we can manage.

However, a lot of people are fucking retarded and take shit casually. This the real problem with narcotics useage today. If it isn't kept in check than it can get out of control really quickly. On top of that, we really don't know much about these drugs and what they do in the long run. I see retards drinking every weekend and doing all sorts of stupid shit that is completey incomprehensible to me.

Also, isn't meth and ecstasy very similar chemically speaking?Methylenedioxymethamphetamine is the technical name for Ecstasy, so I figured they might be related.

[Raziel321]

i love the drug convos on srk. always insightful and full of quality researched information.

i've taken e. multiple times. had a good time each time. like with all drugs, know your body, know your source and know the drug and you will be fine. it's ignorance to drugs that make them dangerous.

also, sometimes you make a sacrifice between what is the most healthy and your own enjoyment. people drink, people smoke, people eat fatty food...drugs are just another indulgence. you just need to be responsible about your drug use, know what you are getting, all the risks, how you can reduce the risks of said drug, and whether that drug is something you want to try. i'm not saying all drugs are good for everyone, but there is a severe misconception about drugs in this country. do yourself a favor, read. don't take any drug without knowing all about it. i find that www.erowid.org is the best source of information and articles about most drugs, plant, and chemicals.


the only time i shall ever agree with u...


Ecstasy is great. When it was first synthesized, the scientist who synthesized it (and these were pure MDMA pills) was giving it out for free because it was so amazing. You can only feel harsh side effects if your taking it more than 4-5 times a month.

watch that Peter Jennings documentary everyone, it will teach you everything you need to know about ecstasy.

ecstasy is great, but i'll only do it rarely because there are usually nothing but fake shitty meth based pills.

www.pillreports.com


before you pick up off your ecstasy dealer, be surre to research whatever pill he has on that site. it will save u a shitty sleepless night sometimes


ecstasy is a little too expensive for my blood...

[angryliberal]

However, a lot of people are fucking retarded and take shit casually. This the real problem with narcotics useage today. If it isn't kept in check than it can get out of control really quickly.

how would you propose we do that?

On top of that, we really don't know much about these drugs and what they do in the long run. I see retards drinking every weekend and doing all sorts of stupid shit that is completey incomprehensible to me.

the reason we don't know enough is because of the black and white attitude the government has imposed on drugs. the government basically just wants to know what they need to know to spread their propaganda of fear and control. many of the drug users i know have much more knowledge and facts about drugs because they don't subscribe to this attitude. i think the media's image of drugs and drug users has seriously hurt both sides of the failed "war" on drugs.

Also, isn't meth and ecstasy very similar chemically speaking?Methylenedioxymethamphetamine is the technical name for Ecstasy, so I figured they might be related.

yes, they are similar, read the erowid.org page on mdma...

[Night]

I heard that Alisachan (that cosplay girl that does the super striptease stuff now) is hooked on ectasy. While I don't do any smack of any kind, sure, I'd do Alisa!

[MrBlank]

I did X for like 4 years casually and only at raves not even those trance clubs just Raves.

Shits dope as fuck people tell you not to do it, thats their opinion. it puts holes in your brain then my shit should be swiss cheese yet i still manage to remember shit like the english language and typing.

one of my favorite X-periences involved lotion and 4 gorgeous white girls also peaking on some good shit.

Also: I got a friend who is typically a depressant. Hes your almost Emo all the gawdamn time guy without all the scene looks. He tried X once with us at a rave and ever since then hes been a less depressed person. He really opened up at the rave and hes is far less shy around girls like he used to be. if you got an emo kind of friend see if you can get him to open up at the rave with it. he goes to bars and shit with us now and before he never would consider it no matter how much beggin you tried.

[Yansoma]

depends on where you are. in ny or ca, you aren't going to see proces that high because there is a HUGE market for the drugs, so everyone and their grandma is selling. you get more price control. its the same way dirt weed is sold at chronic prices in the midwest...i would never pay more than 15-20 for a pill, but i always buy in bulk and sell off what i don't chomp...makes for free rolling in the end...

but yeah, no way a dealer is going to waste lsd on a pill...you can make so much more selling the lsd as is...



is it? anyways, this is simple informing. i have no interest in stomping on toes, i just wanna lay down some facts and offer different points of view based on my own experiences in the drug world, which i imagine is much vaster than most people on this board...
LSD, when bought in bulk, is probably actually the cheapest drug to get. It literally breaks down to like 45 cents a hit if you bought a roll. Which wouldn't be that ridiculously expensive anyway. It's understandable you might not know that, you'd just have to be connected a little better. As far as I know from around Detroit, if you pay for than 8 bucks a hit in the Mid West, your being ripped off. Look on the BlueLight regional forums. It's not like acid is crack; people don't lose their families to acid. To say you can make more off acid than ecstasy is a little strange considering you could bar a jar for $300 bucks in Detroit and sell it for $2,500 anywhere else in the state.

Just so everyone knows, you cannot even put LSD into ecstasy; look the shit up. There is a hallucinogenic counterpart to MDMA called MDA that is probably responsible for 100% of these claims. There are thousands of chemicals that are passed off as LSD, so its hard for anyone to know whats what because the effects are so similar.

Pills are rarely if ever cut with fucking coke, eating .15 grams of coke probably wouldn't even do anything. The most common things that are usually used are caffeine, meth, amphetamines, or ketamine.

[angryliberal]

Ione of my favorite X-periences involved lotion and 4 gorgeous white girls also peaking on some good shit.

i can imagine...

all this talk makes me wish it was four years ago again...i know i'd regret rolling though at this point, my body can't handle chemical abuse anymore...lots of great memories though...

[Demon Dash]

While on this subject, there's two chemicals, one called BZP and the other called TFMPP, which when mixed give almost the exact same effects as Ecstacy. I didn't believe it at first, but after trying it I couldn't believe it was actually true. I think those substances have always been banned in the US, but here in the UK they where sold on the shelf for quite a long time as party pills (or "herbal remedies"). Giving the same effects as Ecstasy though, at the time I was pleasantly suprised...

[angryliberal]

To say you can make more off acid than ecstasy is a little strange considering you could bar a jar for $300 bucks in Detroit and sell it for $2,500 anywhere else in the state.

i have no idea what you are trying to say here. from my knowledge of cid and my connection with some hard core hippies, cid isn't that easy to get. not real good stuff. it's not something that can just be whipped up in your kitchen...

[Robust]

sometimes you need to sack up and try things. Live Life.

[Javid]

how would you propose we do that?

I honestly wouldn't be able to tell you. I don't even think it's possibly with our society.



the reason we don't know enough is because of the black and white attitude the government has imposed on drugs. the government basically just wants to know what they need to know to spread their propaganda of fear and control. many of the drug users i know have much more knowledge and facts about drugs because they don't subscribe to this attitude. i think the media's image of drugs and drug users has seriously hurt both sides of the failed "war" on drugs.


Again, you use drugs recreationally. You seem to have control over yourself. IF the government didn't take such a stance than this society would go to hell very quickly. Think of all the lower income communities or people that are just on the wrong road. As much as I'd like to see more being taught about these drugs(since people seem to do them anyways), I just wonder what will happen to so many of these people when they continue to use them for such a long time.

Alcohol is considered a drug(and even a carcinogen by the WHO), but people drink. Yes there is such thing as moderate drinking(I don't drink, I've only had alcohol once in my life), but we see what happens when people take it too far. People drink until they throw up, until they pass out, or they get behind the wheel of a car. Yes, this is due to people being stupid mostly, but the alcohol does play a role. The very notion that people can approach such drugs with a blasé attitude isn't possible. We all have lost control of ourselves that one time or the other, but it only takes that one time with drugs to fuck someone up badly.

[angryliberal]

Again, you use drugs recreationally. You seem to have control over yourself. IF the government didn't take such a stance than this society would go to hell very quickly. Think of all the lower income communities or people that are just on the wrong road. As much as I'd like to see more being taught about these drugs(since people seem to do them anyways), I just wonder what will happen to so many of these people when they continue to use them for such a long time.

people are going to fuck up their lives. we can agree on that and move forward. there is nothign at all that the war on drugs is doing to curb drug use in this country. nothing at all. all it has done is create the current enviorment of drug trafficking in the us. the stance the government has taken is the reason drug problem exists. people are going to do drugs. simple. having an open forum and safe ways to get the drugs only helps create an enviorment where they can be discussed on a realistic level. people just want to look at it like "drugs are bad" thereby eliminating the need to fully understand the drugs. it's kind of the same attitude as many religions have toward sex. these attitudes of blind ignorance and following rules just because is the best way to propagate that which you intend to control...

[Yansoma]

i have no idea what you are trying to say here. from my knowledge of cid and my connection with some hard core hippies, cid isn't that easy to get. not real good stuff. it's not something that can just be whipped up in your kitchen...

I'm trying to say the money you can make when buying nearly the same amount of each, ecstasy is much more popular and easy to get rid off. You are right, ecstasy is much easier to get but it also happens to be worth much more; don't ask me why people will pay $25 a pill thats just the way it is. There is just no large outing that command larges amounts of acid like there is for ecstasy, except the few yearly events. To me acid is worth much more than ecstasy but I don't think I've ever heard of someone paying 25 dollars for a hit of acid. Someone could cut a sheet of acid into hundreds of hits but it's extremely illegal and not something you'd want to hold on to. There is no parol or possession charges for people who get caught with acid like their are with things like coke.

[jae hoon]

Gov wants drugs banned because they make more off "legal drugs", which usually do the samethings as illegal drugs. That and they cant really regulate illegal drugs.

[funkymusic]

LSD in E?? LOL! Somebody PLEASE listen to angry. And as far as hearing voices in your head... You just shouldnt take drugs man.

2 nights ago i took some green ladies very nice ride. Rolled for about 5-6 hours until me and my girl got done. Someone said 25$ a pill. Thats fucking outrageous and only high school kids that shouldnt be taking E anyways pay that price. Dont go over 15$

[jae hoon]

LSD in E?? LOL! Somebody PLEASE listen to angry. And as far as hearing voices in your head... You just shouldnt take drugs man.

2 nights ago i took some green ladies very nice ride. Rolled for about 5-6 hours until me and my girl got done. Someone said 25$ a pill. Thats fucking outrageous and only high school kids that shouldnt be taking E anyways pay that price. Dont go over 15$

It happens, a friend of mine took it laced with LSD. Knew it had LSD in it took it anyway. I actually laughed my ass off that night.

[angryliberal]

it takes so little time to find out such simple answers. i <3 erowid.

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgi?ID=25

[Yansoma]

I don't have time to explain it, but it's pretty easy to find on the internet: You cannot manufacture a pill cut with LSD, simple as that. I don't care if your mom told you a pill was cut with LSD and she was "sure." LSD doesn't do anything to fool the people taking ecstasy that its real MDMA, and that all the people pressing thousands of pills care about. I can't even figure out why anyone even thinks that would happen. There are literally -thousands- of designer chemicals that induce similar effects.


Edit:
In response to the erowid link:
Exactly as I said in a post on the last page, it's almost always MDA.

[angryliberal]

i think most anti0-drug people have this vision that drug dealers are sitting in their labs, twisting their moustaches thinking of some way to "trick" kids into taking drugs like cid. it's always cid that they go back to. it's the greatest scapegoat drug. drug dealers only want to do one thing - make money. they run a business...you sell and produce drugs in the best way possible to maximise your profits...

[Javid]

Say angryliberal, you seem to know your drugs very well. Judging from your profile you're 28 and you seem to have experienced a lot with this kinda stuff. What is your biggest regret(if any), and do you still do this kinda shit?

[Havoc]

people are going to fuck up their lives. we can agree on that and move forward. there is nothign at all that the war on drugs is doing to curb drug use in this country. nothing at all. all it has done is create the current enviorment of drug trafficking in the us. the stance the government has taken is the reason drug problem exists. people are going to do drugs. simple. having an open forum and safe ways to get the drugs only helps create an enviorment where they can be discussed on a realistic level. people just want to look at it like "drugs are bad" thereby eliminating the need to fully understand the drugs. it's kind of the same attitude as many religions have toward sex. these attitudes of blind ignorance and following rules just because is the best way to propagate that which you intend to control...

So much truth.

[Yansoma]

i think most anti0-drug people have this vision that drug dealers are sitting in their labs, twisting their moustaches thinking of some way to "trick" kids into taking drugs like cid. it's always cid that they go back to. it's the greatest scapegoat drug. drug dealers only want to do one thing - make money. they run a business...you sell and produce drugs in the best way possible to maximise your profits...


Exactly, why would anyone think a dealer would have people whip up this crazy batch of pills with LSD in them. How would that be good for business?

[angryliberal]

Say angryliberal, you seem to know your drugs very well. Judging from your profile you're 28 and you seem to have experienced a lot with this kinda stuff. What is your biggest regret(if any), and do you still do this kinda shit?

i don't really do drugs anymore. i barely drink. i smoke weed more than anything, and even that is in heavy moderation...

i have no regrets. i definately don't regret ever trying any drugs. i won't do them, but i appreciate the experiences that i did have. even the bad experiences teach you something and thusly, i don't regret them.

btw - is language being moderated on srk now?!

[Kix]

btw - is language being moderated on srk now?!

I said **** twice in a message to someone and it was turned to stars. I see it in quotes, so I suspect the answer is yes.

The "f word" seems to be it. I don't particularly have a problem and we know what word it is.

[Okazaki III]

Done it often and enjoyed it. It's your decision if you want to do it, but make sure you get the real thing (meaning that your pill consists of MDMA). A lot of pills nowadays are mixed in with other substances.

Educate yourself, and be safe.

ps: I stopped after I had a bad experience with pills from an untrustworthy source. The pills contained MDA (Not MDMA), which fucked me up. So don't just take any pills from anywhere.

Edit: be apprehensive about some of the replies here, like Angry Lib said, read up on Erowid.

[Yansoma]

I myself pretty much stopped doing everything completely because of the tolerance I've built up slowly over time, but it still really wasn't worth it anymore. I'd rather spend my money on something that is semi-permanent rather than chasing a high. After a while it just becomes this boring cycle. When I used to roll I'd check pill reports or ask like 3-4 people who had taken them already before I ever bought them.

[angryliberal]

it's like the old adage "guns don't kill people", well drugs don't kill people, the misuse of them does...we need more people who take the time to be educated, but that's like asking for a truthful politician...