Any chance of a non-Japanese doujin fighter?

[Lebowsk1]

Any programmers/artists here? Is there a fighting game package the Japanese authors are using or do they create a new engine from scratch each time? Is it time a bunch of Western amateurs got together and made a fighting game?

[specs]

If you make it put Ben 10 in it.

Also put Jesus.

All kidding aside, what franchise would you base it off of? Or something original?

[arstal]

Search for Skullgirls. Doesn't look so hot right now, but it's Western dojin.

[EvilSamurai]

do the batman universe. you can have say "the dark knight" batman as the main character but be able to unlock different versions of batman (with different moves and sprites) such as the animated series batman, adam west batman, michael keaton batman, and make george clooney batman the worst character in the game. all the memoriable characters should be there too: commissioner gordon, the joker (jack nicholson joker, heath ledger joker, jack napier, and the red hood should be unlockables), two face, the riddler, bane, mr freeze, scarecrow, harley quinn, Ras al-Ghul, carmine falcone, poison ivy, catwoman, the penguin, victor zsasz, killer croc, clayface, etc. Robin should not be included as robin is retarded.

[woof]

skullgirls

[Rhio2k]

Gold Digger. Monty, Jotaru, Ryan, Shinryu, Jetta, Thabian, Fauntleroy, Mistress/Ayane, Gar, Daishi, Zelda- my god, this comic has a ton of martial artists- Link, Carla/Desire, Luan, Cheetah, Shin, Edo-era Daishi, Percy, Charlotte, Thropan, Tirga, Onoli, Sheila, Saga T., Jet, Tish, Cid Alkess, -you get the picture yet? It's perfect for a fighting game. Fred's too busy to do it himself...but he did do some sprites (http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Fred-Perry/anime/index01-by-date.html) back in the day.

[Mizuki]

Do a Transformers fighter.

[Keits]

Its LONG been my dream to make a fighting game starring all Cerial Box Mascots.

Tony the Tiger
Honey Nut Bee
Sugar Bear
Captain Crunch
Trix Rabit
Toucan Sam
Snap Crackle and Pop (1 character, they stand on eachother's shoulders)
Lucky
Dig'em Frog
Sonny from CocoPuffs
Wendle, the C.T.C Baker

Secret Boss:
Two Scoops (Sun from Raisin Bran)

Bosses are, in this order:
Yummy Mummy
Boo Berry
Frankenberry
Count Chocula

[felineki]

I've been entertaining the idea of a Cat Ninden fighter for a while, but I don't think I'd actually be able to do all the work needed to make it. The insect collector robot would make for a great grappler/semi-grappler.

[DarkNecrid]

Theres a ton of western free fighters....thats all Doujin means is amateur self published works...

[Digitalbooty]

Theres a ton of western free fighters....thats all Doujin means is amateur self published works...

And they are called?

[4r5]

http://www.download.com/Fighting/2001-7420_4-0.html?tag=dir

[Demon Dash]

Do a Transformers fighter.
Starscream + flight = win...

[the_dannobot]

I'm working on a doujin fighter inspired by the "Tales of the Otori" series of novels. So yeah, it's gonna be made by a western developer, but it will still be a bunch of samurais and ninjas.

I just started, so there's a LOT of work still to do, but I've got a lot of good ideas. I'm going to be keeping a dev blog like the Capcom guys are doing for SF:HD
http://thedannobot.blogspot.com/

[Master Chibi]

Did you forget about Skullgirls from Less Than Three Studios ;O?

[Dandy J]

idk but i heard of this game called skullgirls i guess you could check that out

[Xorcist]

Its LONG been my dream to make a fighting game starring all Cerial Box Mascots.

Tony the Tiger
Honey Nut Bee
Sugar Bear
Captain Crunch
Trix Rabit
Toucan Sam
Snap Crackle and Pop (1 character, they stand on eachother's shoulders)
Lucky
Dig'em Frog
Sonny from CocoPuffs
Wendle, the C.T.C Baker

Secret Boss:
Two Scoops (Sun from Raisin Bran)

Bosses are, in this order:
Yummy Mummy
Boo Berry
Frankenberry
Count Chocula

OMG! Freakin' Cereal Killers would RULE! Get on that now. I expect a full release no later than 2nd quarter 2009. And you better put in Cripsy (http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0725/), form POST Cereal's Cripsy Critters! INDUBITABLY! I'm sure you are aware, but this site (http://www.lavasurfer.com/cereal-guide.html) can be a great resource for characters in future sequels.

[pherai]

The problem is that any independent project done in the states is done by some programmers in their spare time, but by a real software company, so they will never come to fruition. There is almost no market for a 2d fighting game here, so if you were to make it, you better have lots of free time, resources, and dedication. Putting together a fighting game isn't like making a combo vid where you can put it together in a couple weeks, takes a long fucking time. The Skullgirls guys seem to have it together, but if you played their demo you'd see its still pretty far off.

[surewhyyoucan]

Its LONG been my dream to make a fighting game starring all Cerial Box Mascots.

Tony the Tiger
Honey Nut Bee
Sugar Bear
Captain Crunch
Trix Rabit
Toucan Sam
Snap Crackle and Pop (1 character, they stand on eachother's shoulders)
Lucky
Dig'em Frog
Sonny from CocoPuffs
Wendle, the C.T.C Baker

Secret Boss:
Two Scoops (Sun from Raisin Bran)

Bosses are, in this order:
Yummy Mummy
Boo Berry
Frankenberry
Count Chocula

I have not laughed so hard in awhile! Wendle, the C.T.C. Baker :rofl: I don't know what's funnier, the fact that you know his name, or I know what C.T.C. is.

Call the game Cereal Killer (my knickname for Beasting boxes of cereal left and right!)

Two Scoops :lol: They stand on each other's shoulders!!!!!!!! :rofl:

:pray:

[Dandy J]

In all seriousness I would be all over Cereal Killer if it was real and decent.

[SuicidalGrandpa]

What would it be based off of? Probably nothing good.

[DevilJin 01]

Screw doujin. Just make another SF game.

[Xorcist]

What would it be based off of? Probably nothing good.

How about based off a part of balanced breakfast... for starters!

[rogueyoshi]

Do a Transformers fighter.
Starscream + flight = win...
there is one, and yes, starscream is broken as fuck.

[DS]

I've been saying this for a while:

History Fighters: Constitutional Clash

Ben Franklin
Abe Lincoln
John Wilkes Boothe
George Washington
Robert E. Lee
Hitler
Franklin D. Roosevelt
JFK
Bill Clinton
George Bush Sr.
Saddam Hussein

And a shitload of other historical figures. You name it, it's there. I would almost want this game along the lines of HnK, but not to the point of being broken as fuck. More like the presentation.

[Lebowsk1]

I took a look at that Skullgirls... looks ok, but very much in the Japan-style doujin fighter mold (girly-girl character designs, small sprites which suggests there'll be a whole lot of jumping going on etc).

I was just wondering if Western amateurs could make 2D fighters that broke that mould, obviously while keeping all the core elements that make fighters great.

To date the Japanese have had virtually total monopoly on producing quality 2D fighters, and I doubt many people working in Western development houses understand what makes a good fighting game. But clearly many people here have a great understanding of it, and the closing (closed?) gap between Japanese and Western play standard is evidence of that.

I like all the ideas of using already existing characters and worlds, I mean hell I heard about a 2D fighter based on Les Miserables, and if THAT'S possible then anything is... but I was really thinking about a totally original creation. None of this Mugen remixed sprite stuff either.

I know it's an epic task but if Japan can produce these things, and the Skullgirls team are on track, then surely there must be others out there...

PS I know there are already free fighters from the West... but from what I've seen they stink pretty bad. I remember One Must Fall was quite highly rated, but did it really have a decent engine/combo system etc? What would you say is the best one to date, and do you think Skullgirls is on track to easily raise the bar quality wise?

[the_dannobot]

PS I know there are already free fighters from the West... but from what I've seen they stink pretty bad.
Sometimes you get what you pay for.

[Keits]

How about based off a part of balanced breakfast... for starters!

LOL!!!! Hillarious!

Wow, I didnt know Cereal Killers (my name for it also, the obvious choice) would garner such support. My GF and I will do sprites if we can find a coder.

When Tony wins, he throws a finger in the air and says "I'm GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!"

Ive been throwing this idea around since i was 16, and im 25 now. haha This game would be pun-tastic. God damn, part of a balanced breakfast... classic!

I picture this game playing a bit like JoJo's without stands. Sam would be a lot like petshop, im sure. I picture Tony like Sabretooth, actually. But it would be nice to uniquify them a bit.

Think of the variety of projectiles Lucky will have. Like Lei-Lei / Hsien-ko... he will throw purple diamons, clovers and blue moons and shit.

[Tantin]

You forgot Fruit Brute, you monster.

[Keits]

Who the hell is Fruit Brute?

[Tantin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_Brute

[woof]

small sprites which suggests there'll be a whole lot of jumping going on etc).
actually, we're in the process of changing the default sprite size to be a bit bigger

[Keits]

This is absurd. Frute Brute is the SAME as Yummy Mummy, except the mallows are lime instead of 'nilla.

I hate Frute Brute. Down with Frute Brute.

[Henaki]

I've been saying this for a while:

History Fighters: Constitutional Clash

Ben Franklin
Abe Lincoln
John Wilkes Boothe
George Washington
Robert E. Lee
Hitler
Franklin D. Roosevelt
JFK
Bill Clinton
George Bush Sr.
Saddam Hussein

And a shitload of other historical figures. You name it, it's there. I would almost want this game along the lines of HnK, but not to the point of being broken as fuck. More like the presentation.

this would actually work because you can't get your ass sued for it

[DS]

this would actually work because you can't get your ass sued for it


Exactly. And you earn double points for being patriotic. An amendment in the game would be the equivalent of a Fatal K.O.

[the_dannobot]

Exactly. And you earn double points for being patriotic. An amendment in the game would be the equivalent of a Fatal K.O.
Yeah, but do you really want to make the first game ever where you get to play as Hitler? :wow:

The media would go straight for your jugular.

[felineki]

Make him a CPU-only boss, then. :P

[Henaki]

Yeah, but do you really want to make the first game ever where you get to play as Hitler? :wow:

The media would go straight for your jugular.

You realize there are like, hundreds of games where you play a force of people that, more often than not, willingly helped commit the crimes Hitler wanted accomplished? Beacuse you know, playing a guy that said "Lets kill all the jews WHOS WITH ME?" is somehow worse than a guy who was like "FUCK YEAH lets kill all the jews". Hitler should be a playable character.

As long as you justify his character as a bad guy, it's cool. I've led virtual armies protecting Hitlers rights to kill the Jews before, so playing the guy is just as morally sound.

[the_dannobot]

Well, you've got to admit, a game that lets you control German WW2 soldiers is different than a game that lets you be Hitler and beat up a guy in a wheelchair.

I think it's a cool idea for a game though. It could be based in an alternate reality, where instead of hiding in bunkers and directing the war from way behind the lines, the world leaders decided to sack up and solve WW2 with some fisticuffs. It could be called "World War II 2".

[NEBULOSO]

About the cereal fighter? For a morphing character, you could have Chockle the Blob. http://www.lavasurfer.com/cereal-quakeroats.html :tup:

[MiyagiShin X]

skullgirls looks like a great concept just horrible rez and alot of problems. For instance i could not run the game windowed. Only the menu. also dashing in the air looks awful and the layout of controls is messed up. somestuff is wrong with the menu too.

Music is great for menu. The one stage they had, was filled with horrible music and cluttered. If a good western doujin game is ever to come out they need to step it up.

[Zinac]

skullgirls looks like a great concept just horrible rez and alot of problems. For instance i could not run the game windowed. Only the menu. also dashing in the air looks awful and the layout of controls is messed up. somestuff is wrong with the menu too.

Music is great for menu. The one stage they had, was filled with horrible music and cluttered. If a good western doujin game is ever to come out they need to step it up.

I would just like to address these concerns saying the game is being completely re-done from what was seen in that demo. Entirely new engine, and redrawn higher resolution sprites. We also have a new game designer, so hopefully you won't be disappointed.

[Henaki]

Not to mention that was one of the first alpha releases. I don't know why they released it publicly :/

[felineki]

Does resolution matter that much? Because my game would just be 320x240... would that put too many people off?

[Faight]

There was a small fighter that was in the works here by SRK members but I don't think it ever took off. Link:

http://www.shortbuskidsfunhouse.com/projectshobu/index.php

As you can see I don't think any one has posted there in a year or so. Too bad, because I submitted a lot of story for it. It wasn't based off of an existing story but rather we made it up and rolled from there. I would love to see it finished but all I'm good at is writing.

[Zinac]

There was a small fighter that was in the works here by SRK members but I don't think it ever took off. Link:

http://www.shortbuskidsfunhouse.com/projectshobu/index.php

As you can see I don't think any one has posted there in a year or so. Too bad, because I submitted a lot of story for it. It wasn't based off of an existing story but rather we made it up and rolled from there. I would love to see it finished but all I'm good at is writing.

Sorry about not posting anything on that forum. Since I'm working on Skullgirls now I don't really have time for another game.

[Faight]

Sorry about not posting anything on that forum. Since I'm working on Skullgirls now I don't really have time for another game.

It's quite all right. I just sort of disappeared from there, but my work sometimes make me miss internet for months at a time. I was looking at the skullgirls thing and I downloaded the demo, I'll try it out later. The art just sticks out for some reason, I know I've seen that girl the skeleton snake thing before somewhere. I can't remember if it was an art forum or what, but I know I've seen it. It's killing me that I can't place it but it will come to me eventually.

Wish I could help out, but I have a feeling there isn't.

[Xiii]

Well just to put it out there, SkullgirlS won't be the only doujin fighter to look forward coming from someone within or related to the SRK community. It's been slow, but expect something in the future this year from me. It's hard working on everything by yourself, but it's the price to pay for not having any friends XD.

[SpaceMarine17]

Its LONG been my dream to make a fighting game starring all Cerial Box Mascots.

Tony the Tiger
Honey Nut Bee
Sugar Bear
Captain Crunch
Trix Rabit
Toucan Sam
Snap Crackle and Pop (1 character, they stand on eachother's shoulders)
Lucky
Dig'em Frog
Sonny from CocoPuffs
Wendle, the C.T.C Baker

Secret Boss:
Two Scoops (Sun from Raisin Bran)

Bosses are, in this order:
Yummy Mummy
Boo Berry
Frankenberry
Count Chocula


HOLY SHIT DUDE! THAT'S BEEN MY IDEA FOR SUCH A LONG TIME ALSO!!!! (mainly so I can rock the Monster Cereal characters)

-a.

[Rhio2k]

BAH! I STILL say there should be a Hasbro Super-Battle. GI Joe (include Sigma Sucks) vs Transformers (include Beast Wars) vs MLP (leave "Tales" out of it) and everybody else Hasbro's ever liscensed.