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MagStormPsy4EvA
06-19-2007, 11:29 PM
Any of you fellows ever taken lsd? I did about a year ago. It was an enlightening experience for the time being (while I was under the influence, ha. Seemed like I was attaining real profound insights on life and its mysteries... they were gone after 6-7 hours). It gets a real, real bad rap... a lot of government influenced propaganda in regards to the stuff. Albert Hoffman, creator of it, apparently is real downtrodden that it has become a Schedule I drug (potential abuse, no current accepted medical use).. A fact of the matter regarding the substance is that the tolerance builds so quickly that you can't use it much more than twice a week. It used to be used in psychoanalysis in the early 1900's.

Discuss anything you'd like about it, if you dare.

Hell, tear it apart and says it's satanic, and the like.

Perpetuate the "if you do lsd 7 seven you're legally insane" myth if you'd please.. Do anything. I just am curious in general to see what you guys think about it, or if any of you have ever taken it.

Raziel321
06-19-2007, 11:35 PM
i have heard of some crazy shit regarding acid, a lot more good than bad however.


im not gonna do it for a very long time, just because i dont think im ready. ive been around people on acid and they seemed to be having a blast.

shit is crazy tho, only for the brave...

POPNWAFFLES
06-19-2007, 11:35 PM
First the ecstasy thread this morning now this...

I've been trying to get my hands on some, but to no avail. Oh well.

MagStormPsy4EvA
06-19-2007, 11:56 PM
Okay, I lied. I've dosed four times.. All when I went up to SF. Travelled and stayed in a hostel for 12 days. Brought my Martin guitar with me and just relaxed. It seems people are pretty down to earth so far, I was afraid of being ostracized and admonished. I did actually learn a lot from using lsd. I now appreciate beauty in every day situations that I did not before. Also, I really feel like my thinking is expanded, somehow. I cannot say how, but at this point in time, it really doesn't matter. The last time I dosed, I did it alone.. I have footage of me playing guitar and what not. Maybe I'll post my 'trip.' I recorded everything I was feeling and whatnot..




edit: I know you want to weigh in on this CoMpOuNd :]

phae
06-20-2007, 12:14 AM
I read "Lysergic" and I immediately knew this was an LSD thread.

I've dropped LSD over 50 times and counting, LSD was the first drug I tried at 15, and it'll probably be the last drug to put in my body when I am old and gray. In terms of other hallucinogens I have done DOB twice, and DOC once.

LSD is relatively harmless, the harm comes from the user putting themselves in stupid situations. To me, acid is more than a drug, it's a tool to help guide and shape you as a person. I even be half the woman I am today without LSD use. It's taught me so much about how I think and react, how to listen to my body instead of my brain sometimes, and so much other shit it's incredible. I have written some of my best works while on LSD, or came up with the ideas and the backbone of the story while under the influence.

Demon Dash
06-20-2007, 12:17 AM
I read "Lysergic" and I immediately knew this was an LSD thread.

I've dropped LSD over 50 times and counting, LSD was the first drug I tried at 15, and it'll probably be the last drug to put in my body when I am old and gray. In terms of other hallucinogens I have done DOB twice, and DOC once.

LSD is relatively harmless, the harm comes from the user putting themselves in stupid situations. To me, acid is more than a drug, it's a tool to help guide and shape you as a person. I even be half the woman I am today without LSD use. It's taught me so much about how I think and react, how to listen to my body instead of my brain sometimes, and so much other shit it's incredible. I have written some of my best works while on LSD, or came up with the ideas and the backbone of the story while under the influence.
And all it took was an LSD thread... Never seen you around in ages...

CoMpOuNd
06-20-2007, 12:19 AM
sounds alot better then I thought it would be... I might try it one time...

word.

MagStormPsy4EvA
06-20-2007, 12:26 AM
LSD causes a lot of cognitive damage..


"I even be half the woman I am today without LSD use."


I'm not saying that was part stemming from lsd use, but it's pretty funny. :]

Timothy Leary blew the shit out of proportions.. made it look like only lunatics use the stuff.

It's interesting how the government tested it in sometimes deceiving ways on people.. Oh and LSD trips last 6-8 hours... not 2 days like people often think.. just clearing up another common misconception --

phae
06-20-2007, 12:48 AM
It's interesting how the government tested it in sometimes deceiving ways on people.. Oh and LSD trips last 6-8 hours... not 2 days like people often think.. just clearing up another common misconception --

The thing with buying LSD is that a lot of times it just isn't actually LSD. Same for the cognitive damage being from LSD. It's possible, just it's an insanely high dose to do it.

Lysergic Acid Diethylamide-25 is odorless and tasteless. DOB has no odor, but it tastes heavily metallic. As does DOC, or any of the other DO*'s. A lot of times when you get blotter hits they wind up being DOB, which is a good 12 to 15 hours of flat out tripping balls.

DOB has a point where it'll leave some long-term effects, which is much, much lower than the micrograms of LSD you'd have to take to get the same effects. A friend of mine has some cognitive issues now because of mistaking DOB for LSD, and doing a much higher dose.

I guess that just boils down to knowing your drugs/research chemicals though.

SuicidalGrandpa
06-20-2007, 11:26 AM
First the ecstasy thread this morning now this...

I've been trying to get my hands on some, but to no avail. Oh well.

You're such a little druggy. :cybot:

angryliberal
06-20-2007, 11:33 AM
never took lsd for one reason - i'm a control freak. you have to be able to let go with drugs like lsd, and i can't. i'll start to freak out and thats not a place you want to be when tripping. i've chomped shrooms plenty of times, but no cid. i've babysat plenty of tripping people in my life. being high as fuck and watching people on acid is fun. it can be a chore though - you aren't in the same reality as those tripping, so it's hard to make any kind of connection with them. depends on their trip i guess.

swordofkenshin
06-20-2007, 11:34 AM
well real lsd isnt produced, even though acid is associated with lsd in my opinion its not the same. From past experience Ive learned LSD was made in labs while Acid (which is the only thing I know of produced these days) is made in people bathtubs.

-SoK-

POPNWAFFLES
06-20-2007, 11:36 AM
You're such a little druggy. :cybot:

Eh, im not hurting anyone :smokin:

angryliberal
06-20-2007, 11:39 AM
well real lsd isnt produced, even though acid is associated with lsd in my opinion its not the same. From past experience Ive learned LSD was made in labs while Acid (which is the only thing I know of produced these days) is made in people bathtubs.

-SoK-

i have never heard this nor can i find a solid reference to it on erowid. do you have a source?

swordofkenshin
06-20-2007, 11:42 AM
personal experience hanging out with alot of burnouts. i know 15 year old that produce acid and rolls out of there parents basement.

angryliberal
06-20-2007, 11:47 AM
i'm skeptical about that...real LSD is produced, though in declining amounts each year. the dea shows declining numbers of cases each year...but i don't believe that any 15 year old is synthesizing lsd in their basement...maybe some hallucinagen they are passing for lsd, but not real lsd. like you, i know tons of hippies and "burn-outs", though i don't believe this in any way validates any points.

jae hoon
06-20-2007, 11:50 AM
The Hippies thought LSD was harmless to, 90 percent of them would tell you otherwise now.

angryliberal
06-20-2007, 12:26 PM
ok, now your just insane jae. unless every single hippie or ex-hippie i know is in that ten percent, which would be simply amazing, that is totally incorrect. in fact, i don't know A SINGLE person who has done cid and then regretted it. old, young, whatever...your views and knowledge of drugs is so astounding that my jaw drops each time i read something you have to say about drugs. cid is mentally harmful at best, though even that data is pretty vague. most problems associated with lsd are either overblown or outright false. please, if you are going to talk drugs, please do soem research because i've done my homework ten times over on the effects of the popular drugs and some of the designer chemicals...

Yansoma
06-20-2007, 01:00 PM
hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa @ people producing LSD in their basement.

The chemicals involved in making real LSD are so illegal you would probably get a felony or some jail time for even attempting to get ahold of them. Not to mention LSD25 in its original state is considered extinct. This isn't meth we're talking about, your probably going to have to have some legitimate experience in collegiate level chemistry to synthesize LSD. It costs -alot- of money to purchase the ingredients (and somehow get them into the country) and takes a long time to make because you have to let things evaporate, etc.

phae
06-20-2007, 01:38 PM
The chemicals involved in making real LSD are so illegal you would probably get a felony or some jail time for even attempting to get ahold of them. Not to mention LSD25 in its original state is considered extinct. This isn't meth we're talking about, your probably going to have to have some legitimate experience in collegiate level chemistry to synthesize LSD. It costs -alot- of money to purchase the ingredients (and somehow get them into the country) and takes a long time to make because you have to let things evaporate, etc.

Which is why in the mail order drug scene (it exists, it's hella easy to mail drugs around, you'd be amazed what customs fails at) it all comes from east Asia. :wow:

thurst
06-20-2007, 02:27 PM
i personally can deal with life and making life decisions just fine without hallucinogens so when people say stuff like "shrooms/lsd made me realize blah blah blah" they're either weak minded or just deluding themselves into thinking they're getting some uberly beneficial side effect from a drug to justify it's continued use.

angryliberal
06-20-2007, 03:08 PM
obviously you do not like drugs. good for you. i don't do drugs anymore myself, but i can tell you that many hallucinogens makes you think in a different way, it's easier to imagine things outside the box. i'm not saying it's for everyone, but i also wouldn't drop broad truisms like "people who don't do drugs are always judgemental as shit about drugs", because it's petty. i honestly think it's great you don't do drugs, but do you have to be so self righteous about it?

thurst
06-20-2007, 03:29 PM
actually i have no problems with drugs and i smoke occasionally myself. but i do drugs bcuz i like to be high, end of story. not bcuz i somehow feel that i'm being made better as a person. and imo if you need a drug to better yourself as a person then you have a problem, which is the point i was making.

djfunkshun
06-20-2007, 03:30 PM
Stay away if possible i speak from experience. I am a recovering drug addict and if there was one drug i really wish i could have stayed away from acid is it. This stuff is bad news if you are weakminded, not saying that i am but when you are eating 15-25 hits at a time like i was bad shit is just bound to happen. And dont get it twisted i am not here to preach about how bad drugs are. if you would like more info on this pm me.

tajiri
06-20-2007, 03:30 PM
i'm scared that i will turn into the hulk if i do drugs, basically because i "digest" a lot of my emotions and i'm generally uptight 24/7.

:/

djfunkshun
06-20-2007, 03:33 PM
well if you think alot this is not for you thinking can lead to very bad thoughts when it comes to acid. fun at first but 18 hours later you may be depressed and/or suicidal.

angryliberal
06-20-2007, 04:11 PM
actually i have no problems with drugs and i smoke occasionally myself. but i do drugs bcuz i like to be high, end of story. not bcuz i somehow feel that i'm being made better as a person. and imo if you need a drug to better yourself as a person then you have a problem, which is the point i was making.

my mistake. yeah, same here.

Irennicus
06-20-2007, 05:32 PM
actually i have no problems with drugs and i smoke occasionally myself. but i do drugs bcuz i like to be high, end of story. not bcuz i somehow feel that i'm being made better as a person. and imo if you need a drug to better yourself as a person then you have a problem, which is the point i was making.

I don't know that LSD made me a 'better person' but I do think it at least tuned me in to some of my behavioral patterns. On LSD I was more likely to analyze my environment and things that had always slightly bothered me then bothered me extremely, which helped me realize how I wanted to organized my life to avoid little frustrations.

Etc. etc. etc.

Things like that I don't consider making me 'weak minded'. I've not had a life-altering euphoria from LSD either, though. I just think it's kinda cool.

MagStormPsy4EvA
06-20-2007, 06:46 PM
Which is why in the mail order drug scene (it exists, it's hella easy to mail drugs around, you'd be amazed what customs fails at) it all comes from east Asia. :wow:

I beg to differ


Switzerland!! "Pure Swiss"..


Anyways, "Real LSD" is probably.. acid/lsd/dose..all the same..just different names. LSD is synthesized from ergot fungus. I'm not sure about this blab, but I think if you ate that fungus, it'd kill you, because it is too potent.. either that or there is something else in the fungus along with the bits of lsd or whatever.. and you need to synthesize it and pull out the good shit, and leave the bad.


Ah yes.. mail order. fun times... people actually mail order lsd and mushrooms. pretty nuts.. Anyways


If any of you were wondering, I was sentenced to 60 days of juvenile hall (and i turn 19 this july 8th).. I spent 8 days in juvenile hall, and I am currently on house arrest. Also currently, I am chillin' -- like a muthafucka.

Kyoujin
06-20-2007, 06:50 PM
I have yet to take the leap into acid and LSD; I've done shrooms and pot quite abit, but I'm worried it's going to fry my brain. I'm going to wait for the right time and place so it can be the best possible experience I can have.
Last time I did shrooms, it was a blast; I want to take it to the next level.

MagStormPsy4EvA
06-20-2007, 08:06 PM
I have yet to take the leap into acid and LSD; I've done shrooms and pot quite abit, but I'm worried it's going to fry my brain. I'm going to wait for the right time and place so it can be the best possible experience I can have.
Last time I did shrooms, it was a blast; I want to take it to the next level.

Like doing any drug (a mind altering substance, be it eating a piece of shit, drinking some coffee, or shooting up cocaine) there is a recovery period. LSD's isn't bad really.. the real thing to watch out for is your mental health. If you'v ever been diagnosed with a mental disorder, or if you have low self worth or esteem, or are depressed, or an anxious person (or if you have PTSD, gone through any traumatic shits) I wouldn't touch the stuff.

My bad deal with it was my bones kind of ached, and my back muscles did. Then again, my whole body frame is off by "7 degrees" according to the orthopaedist. Fuck.. I gotta get on those back muscle exercises...

oh and a lot of folk say psilocybin mushrooms > lsd.. maybe because you pick those mushrooms straight off the cowshit or however they were grown (home grown spores, or cowshit are the main options I am pretty sure) and they are 100% natural.. unless they're homegrown with miracle gro or some wack like that

thurst
06-20-2007, 08:18 PM
when i was at my mom's place down south every once in awhile after it rained real hard college kids would come by and ask if they could collect "specimens from class" from our field. it's pretty funny watching people pick through cow pies knowing that their gonna eventually ingest the buried treasure.

Logos
06-20-2007, 09:46 PM
Anyways, "Real LSD" is probably.. acid/lsd/dose..all the same..just different names. LSD is synthesized from ergot fungus. I'm not sure about this blab, but I think if you ate that fungus, it'd kill you, because it is too potent.. either that or there is something else in the fungus along with the bits of lsd or whatever.. and you need to synthesize it and pull out the good shit, and leave the bad.


Yeah, they actually just use the fungus as a starting point to synthesize the LSD; it's a substance that does not exist in nature.

Anyways, I'd like to try LSD at some point but I'm mainly just paranoid about getting some nasty shit with all sorts of random crap in it. You never know what's in the stuff you get these days.

Starhammer
06-20-2007, 11:43 PM
I've never hit LSD before but I'd like to at least once before I die. preferably after getting a big screen TV and having the living room hooked up the way I want it. I just have to have the audio/video boost to go with it. for those who haven't tried it yet, shrooms+ REZ or Fantavision (PS2 games) = :wow: :looney: it could only have been better if I was at the code in japan. However, for a one man party it was the best thing I've done by myself.

-Starhammer-

Yansoma
06-21-2007, 12:54 AM
People always think of the most corny things to do on acid like listen to Pink Floyd, or watch some movie like the Wizard of Oz. If you made any plans before you ate it, your definitely never going to follow through with them or even remember what you wanted to do.

MagStormPsy4EvA
06-21-2007, 01:23 AM
People always think of the most corny things to do on acid like listen to Pink Floyd, or watch some movie like the Wizard of Oz. If you made any plans before you ate it, your definitely never going to follow through with them or even remember what you wanted to do.



ROFL. so true.. to an extent.

The fourth time I dosed, i did it by myself, and I recorded my trip.. ill post it later