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Johneh
06-20-2007, 08:58 PM
My vote is SF:III3S, because the sprites just moved so smoothly. Even their clothes bounced, everything made sense and the game looked stunning.

Mixah
06-20-2007, 09:00 PM
I was expecting your Join Date to say 2k7...

oh well... whatever.... I guess....

Guilty Gear or Akatsuki Blitzkampf

Kataklysmic
06-20-2007, 09:01 PM
My vote is SF:III3S, because the sprites just moved so smoothly. Even their clothes bounced, everything made sense and the game looked stunning.

Fuck 3S. Get NG.

Gorehound
06-20-2007, 09:09 PM
Warzard

You can't get more beautiful character designs, colors, story, and backgrounds than the game Warzard!

Also, Arcana Heart, they are all chicks, you can't get more prettier than that!

Johneh
06-20-2007, 09:10 PM
I was expecting your Join Date to say 2k7...

oh well... whatever.... I guess....

Guilty Gear or Akatsuki Blitzkampf

Sorry to disappoint. Akatsuki is beautiful, not a single pixel in sight. Guilty Gear doesn't really impress me though...

Fuck 3S. Get NG.

What the hell is NG?

Kayin
06-20-2007, 09:16 PM
NG is SF3: New Generation.

Big Bang Beat is flashy as fuck, I love it.

Mixah
06-20-2007, 09:23 PM
BBB looks a lot like MB, with the pixellated sprites and whatnot though... :(

Biltzkampf, as said, is so clean.

Sabin
06-20-2007, 09:23 PM
Arcana and bbb, obviously

Sake
06-20-2007, 09:27 PM
yeah, I'd definitely have to go with SF:III. GG might always be the flashiest, as far as Akatsuki Blitzkampf goes, I haven't played it, but the vids I saw, all the characters looked too dark and stiff to me....But I suppose I'd need to play it.

Gorehound
06-20-2007, 09:27 PM
I forgot one fighter

Martial Masters

Khiempossible
06-20-2007, 09:29 PM
Last Blade 2 in high res would beast in prettiness all over those games.

Shadow Ace 50
06-20-2007, 09:29 PM
Fist of the North Star or Garou

Warpticon
06-20-2007, 09:30 PM
I'd be more impressed with the look of GG if it animated better. detailed sprites are nice, but I don't dig the animation so much. Akatsuki makes awesome stills because the sprites are so smooth, but it doesn't always animate so hot, either.

I'd have to vote for SF3 or Garou.

ba-ro-
06-20-2007, 09:32 PM
arcana heart

Master Chibi
06-20-2007, 09:34 PM
Big Bang Beat looks like Big Fucking Ugly on my new monitor, while Blitzkampf is straight up sex on it.

Honestly, if we're talking about animation quality and what have you, I still think Darkstalkers has everything here beat, easily.

Sake
06-20-2007, 09:37 PM
oooh yes! Darkstalkers was very nice. I loved Gallon. Now THAT is how a werewolf should look!

funkymusic
06-20-2007, 09:39 PM
Ask this in a year and the answer will be SSF2T HD: Remix

Sake
06-20-2007, 09:40 PM
you sir, are probably correct, that Akuma looked so friggin great.

Logos
06-20-2007, 09:42 PM
Garou by far. I love the art style of that game; not to mention it has pretty damn good graphics for a game from '99.

Kayin
06-20-2007, 09:44 PM
Garou by far. I love the art style of that game; not to mention it has pretty damn good graphics for a game from '99.

MotW is most definitely the best looking game on the MVS.

Johneh
06-20-2007, 09:45 PM
I really, really, really wish they were remaking some other game besides II. I mean, they're redoing all the graphics from the ground up, why would they keep the archaic system? Why not remake Alpha 3 with it's awesome characters or 3S for it's balanced system?

Really stupid. Plus, they're remaking a game that was already released on the 360 arcade. Capcom is retarded.

spudlyff8fan
06-20-2007, 10:05 PM
Garou by far. I love the art style of that game; not to mention it has pretty damn good graphics for a game on hardware from 1992.

Fixed.

But yeah, GG rules all.

Mizuki
06-20-2007, 10:07 PM
SF3.

Weecho
06-20-2007, 10:14 PM
3rd Strike and Garou MArk of the Wolves. Guilty Gear has some nice sprites but it it animates like shit.

woof
06-20-2007, 10:22 PM
akatsuki blitzkampf
garou
arcana heart :wonder:
sf3
king of fighters 2000

StuartHayden
06-20-2007, 10:25 PM
I really liked the background designs in SF Zero 3

chopa
06-20-2007, 10:32 PM
Rumble fish 1/2 is probably the best of those not yet listed

woof
06-20-2007, 10:34 PM
I really liked the background designs in SF Zero 3
what? :confused:

have you never played z2



Rumble fish 1/2 is probably the best of those not yet listed
again, what? :confused:
in all honesty the RF series looks like it was made in flash or something

Violent By Design
06-20-2007, 10:37 PM
Hopefully KOF XII brings the heat

3b1r4h
06-20-2007, 10:37 PM
i'm gonna have to go marvel because it's the only game i know where my friends who don't play will watch a couple matches just because of flashy combos plus supers plus so much shit on the fucking screen.

in my opinion SF3 is a work of ark. NG was great and had better bakgrounds as opposed to 3s though.

StuartHayden
06-20-2007, 10:41 PM
what? :confused:

have you never played z2




again, what? :confused:
in all honesty the RF series looks like it was made in flash or something

Yeah, I have. And I liked them a lot too. I just liked Z3 designs more.

Kayin
06-20-2007, 10:57 PM
Even though the animation isn't top tier, you gotta give GG credit for using hi-res sprites before anyone.

hellhound7
06-20-2007, 11:03 PM
there should only be 1 post in this thread. GUILTY GEAR!!!

Kataklysmic
06-21-2007, 01:55 AM
Don't put GG on so high a pedestal. The only thing good about GG sprites are their contours. Without a heap of shadowy detailed layers and mixed hues, high-res doesn't mean jack.

ToyRobotTerror
06-21-2007, 02:16 AM
there should only be 1 post in this thread. GUILTY GEAR!!!

http://i11.tinypic.com/67y6sqt.gif
http://i8.tinypic.com/4yg8eg6.gif
http://i13.tinypic.com/52mjlfd.gif

Kayin
06-21-2007, 02:27 AM
http://i11.tinypic.com/67y6sqt.gif
http://i8.tinypic.com/4yg8eg6.gif
http://i13.tinypic.com/52mjlfd.gif

Oh god that's terrible. :rofl:

Hol Horse
06-21-2007, 03:29 AM
I can't decide between 2I and 3S. Animation was improved in 3S (quite apparently too with some characters!), but everything else was better in 2I

Last Blade 2 also looks extremely good overall.

Mixah
06-21-2007, 04:14 AM
alpha 2 had the best backgrounds... gen's stage was tight, akuma's stage was tight, the grassy field was the SHIT!

as for the other games... wtf? BBB? Garou?
yeah, ok, the animation is sick and all, but seriously? pixellated sprites? gtfo! what's next? Melty Blood?

Don't put GG on so high a pedestal. The only thing good about GG sprites are their contours. Without a heap of shadowy detailed layers and mixed hues, high-res doesn't mean jack.

for the most part the backgrounds are fucking sick as well.

ok, so you said good sprites, i say good backgrounds... what more do you want? shut up.

Fadedsun303
06-21-2007, 04:14 AM
I'd say:
Arcana Hearts
Samurai Shodown:Tenka
SF3:Third Strike
Guilty Gear:Accent Core

Windlord0
06-21-2007, 04:34 AM
If they aren't moving Guilty Gear looks the best (maybe HNK is close). The effects they added for accent core really make it look gorgeous, but the sprites still don't have enough frames.
I also remember Spectral VS Generation looking great in pictures but looking like ass when it was actually being played.

SF3 has the most frames of animation per character, there's no doubt, but I feel the characters don't play on that fact at all. The movements are not elaborate enough to be asking for such good animation. If you say "here are two character's from different games, which one looks better moving?" then SF3 will be the answer. A game with characters that would take more advantage of the animation system would blow SF3 away I think. Darkstalkers characters + SF3 graphics system would be crazy gorgeous.

Doujin fighters naturally have a hard time with this, because sprite assets are crazy hard to make and very time consuming. The time coding a fighting game pales in comparison to the amount of time it takes to make the assets. Some look much better (Biltzkampf is great). I was told that monster looks great in motion, but I never saw it. The pictures I saw of it didn't look very good.

Ferdinandz
06-21-2007, 04:42 AM
Odin Sphere.


Fuck you, it's pretty.

Vectorman
06-21-2007, 05:05 AM
Ok, im confused...Are these images of concepts for Akuma or ACTUAL sprites?
http://www.gearcritech.com/index.php/2007/06/08/street-fighter-ii-hd-remix-akuma.php

felineki
06-21-2007, 05:12 AM
I really, really, really wish they were remaking some other game besides II. I mean, they're redoing all the graphics from the ground up, why would they keep the archaic system? Why not remake Alpha 3 with it's awesome characters or 3S for it's balanced system?

Really stupid. Plus, they're remaking a game that was already released on the 360 arcade. Capcom is retarded.If SF2 is so "archaic", then why is it still getting so much play? And why is Alpha 3 getting so little?

And ST isn't on Live Arcade.

Anyway, as for prettiest 2D fighters... I have to admit my experience is very limited, so I don't have a lot to choose from. But in terms of animation, SF3 wins for sheer fluidity, and Darkstalkers wins for creativity and character. In terms of presentation, ST's simple but pleasing interface appeals a lot to me.

Mixah
06-21-2007, 06:16 AM
Ok, im confused...Are these images of concepts for Akuma or ACTUAL sprites?
http://www.gearcritech.com/index.php/2007/06/08/street-fighter-ii-hd-remix-akuma.php

actual sprites.

PimpC
06-21-2007, 06:41 AM
st remix....it's not out yet but this is mainly for hope that it looks good and plays well

JackTenrac!
06-21-2007, 06:59 AM
2nd Impact for Bear Ryoma to render your life points directly.

Logos
06-21-2007, 12:39 PM
as for the other games... wtf? BBB? Garou?
yeah, ok, the animation is sick and all, but seriously? pixellated sprites? gtfo! what's next? Melty Blood?

Yeah, the sprites are pixellated and whatnot, but I love the overall art style and animation. Dunno, it just appeals to me more than the others for some reason.

Shinto
06-21-2007, 12:42 PM
Arcana Heart Bitches...

Sano
06-21-2007, 12:47 PM
Hokuto No Ken AKA Fist of the North Star for me. It might not animate as well as the SF3 series but those huge character sprites are awesome plus lots of cool backgrounds and great stuff for fans of the anime. Great music too, it's a hella great package as far as looks go.

I still like SF3 Third Strike better though as a game. It's crazy that it can still stand up to lots of recent fighters despite it being several years old, ditto for the other 2 SF3 games. Each one lost a bit of background animation as things progressed to be fair. Seems like things had to be dropped the more characters and animation was added to the series, just a guestimate going by the technology that was available at the time.

Guilty Gear looks great so that goes without saying. Melty Blood and Arcana Heart are also nice and so is Mark of the Wolves. Shout out to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 1 & 2 and Warzard.

DS
06-21-2007, 12:51 PM
Arcana Heart, motherfuckers.

Runner up:
Guilty Gear XX: Accent Core
Garou
Akatsuki Blitzkampf
Battle Fantasia

Master Chibi
06-21-2007, 12:56 PM
All you people saying Arcana is the prettiest 2d fighter are talking about like 'girly pretty' ie 'flowers and interior decoration', right?

That's what it sounds like.

FAGS

:looney:

Sano
06-21-2007, 12:58 PM
All you people saying Arcana is the prettiest 2d fighter are talking about like 'girly pretty' ie 'flowers and interior decoration', right?

That's what it sounds like.

FAGS

:looney:

Well if that's what you mean then Melty Blood and Arcana Heart take it easy with Gal Fighters on the Neo Geo Pocket being a top contender. :rofl:

Master Chibi
06-21-2007, 01:03 PM
Melty Blood doesn't fall in the same category.

Gal fighters also has Iori in it :rofl:.

Pablo_the_Mex
06-21-2007, 01:07 PM
HnK and GG look the best in screenshots. Garou to me looks excellent and animates very well despite the limitations on the hardware.

Sano
06-21-2007, 01:08 PM
Gal fighters also has Iori in it :rofl:.

Iori in a dress for the win! And Shermie's ending in that game is one of the best EVER! She uses the wish she won from the tourney to cure her sick hamster and Yashiro and Chris are like "What about Orochi?" And Shermie says "Ooops!" :rofl:

So should we bring up that 2D Sailor Moon fighting game? I mean come on, she's Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon... :looney:

Master Chibi
06-21-2007, 01:11 PM
There's also Asuka 120%.

Eternal Fighter Zero?

MUST BE PRETTIER GAMES OUT THERE.

:rofl:

Deansta
06-21-2007, 01:12 PM
Guilty Gear, Hokuto No Ken, Darkstalkers.

ToyRobotTerror
06-21-2007, 01:35 PM
World heroes perfect.... WOW

Gorehound
06-21-2007, 01:38 PM
Odin Sphere.


Fuck you, it's pretty.

Amen!!!

So nobody here played Martial Masters, that game rivaled 3s in smooth animations and the coloring on that game was amazing!!!


Not a 2D fighter, but Fighting Bujitsu was a pretty looking fighter!

Sano
06-21-2007, 01:47 PM
Amen!!!



Yeah his name escapes me right now, I'll look it up when I get home but the main guy behind Odin Sphere who also was the main guy behing the character designs used to work for Capcom. He worked on SF2 CE and Slam Masters. So Odin Sphere can most def get a nod. Besides, it's a new 2D game on a platform, no not a handheld - A PLATFORM! Man everybody with a PS2 or a PS3 since it's backwards compatible go out and buy it already. :tup:

Hanzo_Hasashi
06-21-2007, 01:47 PM
Chaos Brakers and Primal Rage.... Seriously the last one. For a 1994 game it has far more animation frames than ANY GG game.

n8archer_XI
06-21-2007, 02:21 PM
Mugen/ShugenDo/Infintycat are the prettiest "2D fighters"...

ToyRobotTerror
06-21-2007, 02:33 PM
They are engines......

Johneh
06-21-2007, 02:42 PM
Not to mention engines with severe limitations. IDK about the other two, but seriously Mugen's max resolution is 640 by 480. :rolleyes:

tajiri
06-21-2007, 02:46 PM
3s and guilty gear XX in a ps2 using component cables on an hdtv with progressive scanned turned on is pretty effin gorgeous.

Mokura
06-21-2007, 02:47 PM
I'm thinking ST. No game has beautiful colors like that one. But 3S would be second.

Z!M
06-21-2007, 04:33 PM
just waiting for vanillaware to jump into the fighting ring, until then i would say GG or a remade high res waku waku 7. I just love the character design and the use of color!

Shadowcuz
06-21-2007, 04:40 PM
3s and guilty gear XX in a ps2 using component cables on an hdtv with progressive scanned turned on is pretty effin gorgeous.

3s has progessive scan?

tajiri
06-21-2007, 05:25 PM
3s has progessive scan?

idk if it officially does, but on a sony hdtv that has prog scan turned on (instead of default interlaced) it is gorgeous.

rukawa_kaede
06-21-2007, 05:25 PM
All you people saying Arcana is the prettiest 2d fighter are talking about like 'girly pretty' ie 'flowers and interior decoration', right?

That's what it sounds like.

FAGS

:looney:

isn't the word pretty gay enough

Biolink
06-21-2007, 05:49 PM
3rd Strike most definetly

Mixah
06-21-2007, 06:10 PM
I saw a fighter the other day that reminded me of a chibi Arcana Heart.... There was little girls with big heads throwing hearts at each other, but the title was in Japanese.. What game is this?

4649
06-21-2007, 06:14 PM
I saw a fighter the other day that reminded me of a chibi Arcana Heart.... There was little girls with big heads throwing hearts at each other, but the title was in Japanese.. What game is this?

touhou immaterial and missing power, probably

Mixah
06-21-2007, 06:26 PM
yup that's it.

what's it for? is it good? etc.

goodm0urning
06-21-2007, 06:40 PM
SFII' CE... all these years on, and it's still probably the one game that I can say is exactly as it should be in every way, from a graphical standpoint. It is from the early 90s and it shows, but for what it is, it is perfect. There is not one flub in the visual design.

NEBULOSO
06-21-2007, 06:47 PM
So nobody here played Martial Masters, that game rivaled 3s in smooth animations and the coloring on that game was amazing!!!

A shame not many people will admit this....And the fact that the PGM hardware was pretty much the same as a Neo-Geo!....

Chaos Breaker and Primal Rage.... Seriously the last one. For a 1994 game it has far more animation frames than ANY GG game.

PR's graphics and animation were in a league of their own. Hell, everything from the control to the games theme!

-Other games:
Samurai Shodown 2. :tup:
HNK
3S
Night Warriors
SvG
MK2
Global Champion
Dark Legend

To name a few....

woof
06-21-2007, 07:00 PM
yup that's it.

what's it for? is it good? etc.
pc

it depends .. are you willing to spend an extra 5 minutes reading everything about the system mechanics before you play?????? the difficulty curve of the game due to it being different from most fighters is mad overrated i think
aside that i think its a real good game if you like shit like zoning and heavy meter management

040488
06-21-2007, 07:07 PM
there should only be 1 post in this thread. GUILTY GEAR!!!

Hax....Johnnys only got 8 coins :mad:

n8archer_XI
06-21-2007, 07:13 PM
They are engines......that have an endless amount of beautiful stages available, along with most characters you could ever imagine?

Windlord0
06-21-2007, 07:22 PM
...that have an endless amount of beautiful stages available, along with most characters you could ever imagine?

Now if we take the whole thing as a total, then for every beautiful character like Dragon Claw and Ella (her animations are so crazy) there are 100 SSJ8 Boxing toaster or some other insane shit that looks terrible. So that means mugen et al as a whole look awful. Would GG or 3S be considered good looking if only 1 character was the real one and the rest were done in C64 era sprites.

Shade
06-21-2007, 07:33 PM
Sorry to disappoint. Akatsuki is beautiful, not a single pixel in sight.

Are you high?

EDIT: Not to mention engines with severe limitations. IDK about the other two, but seriously Mugen's max resolution is 640 by 480. :rolleyes:


Yes. Yes you are high.

hellhound7
06-21-2007, 07:34 PM
Hax....Johnnys only got 8 coins :mad:

lol!

also the title of the thread says the PRETTIEST 2d fighter!

Shade
06-21-2007, 07:41 PM
I saw someone mention Primal Rage. Well, then you might aswell include Clayfighter, all the Mortal Kombat titles Pre 4, etc etc, because from the looks of the discussion, we were talking about fighting games that use pixels, and not digitized graphics (which Primal Rage, uses).

Anyway, in terms of frame count, the CPS3 titles have that hands down, (SF3's, JoJo's, and Warzard). I'm also a fan of The Rumble Fish's sprites. Very pretty.

Melty Blood and Big Bang Beat are cool, too. Lovely effects. It's a toss up really, since the sprite styles, and everything are handled differently from game to game. I am partial to the CPS3 titles, however.

Wellman
06-21-2007, 07:45 PM
Personally, I have no idea, there are times when I look at KOFXI and think orgasmic. And times I just shake my head at it, like "cheap bastards". Samething happens with every 2D game.

I do wonder how HD 2D games like the SF2 would look like.

Shade
06-21-2007, 07:52 PM
Yea, I love the sprites in the KOF titles. Different shading style altogether.

kof4life
06-21-2007, 08:04 PM
I'll go ahead and say SF3:2I. It's got the awesome SF3 graphics with MUCH nicer backgrounds and much better presentation overall. It was a lot of eye candy,that game! KOf XI is another favourite of mine.

Mixah
06-21-2007, 08:09 PM
pc

it depends .. are you willing to spend an extra 5 minutes reading everything about the system mechanics before you play?????? the difficulty curve of the game due to it being different from most fighters is mad overrated i think
aside that i think its a real good game if you like shit like zoning and heavy meter management

hmmmmmm.....
that's exactly what it seems like

I'm starting to get into BBB. It's SO FUCKING FUN

Strider2k2
06-21-2007, 08:10 PM
Arcana Heart, 3S, GGXX Accent Core, KOF XI....and yes, BBB.

Nocturnal
06-21-2007, 08:11 PM
Already been mentioned but Garou is pretty and LB2 as well for being on the neogeo hardware.

Johneh
06-21-2007, 08:12 PM
Are you high?

EDIT:


Yes. Yes you are high.

Wow.

How deluded do you have to be to accuse someone of being high for liking a 2D fighter for it's high resolution sprites? I mean seriously, if I had said something like "I think rainbows are pretty pffffffffffffft man light me up another bowl", I could understand. However, all I did was comment on Akatsuki prettiness.





The correct answer was DXM.

hubcapsignstop
06-21-2007, 08:17 PM
the richness animation of the SF3 series does it for me
the frame count plus the fluidity is unmatched

second would probably be JoJos, which despite relatively pixelated graphics and lesser frame count, it makes the most of what it has and creates a fluid visual. I love the exagerated postures of the characters in motion.

Garou has nice animation, but it lacks a certain fluidity in alot of areas as the characters seem stiff in alot of the animations (similar to alot of KOF characters).

i saw youtube vdeos of martail masters and that game looked pretty, the animation didnt look like it rivaled SF3 at all, but I was still feinding to see it in real life.
I would love to see warzard in real life also

and im surprized at the mention of Atsuki Blitzkamph. It looked horribly stiff and ugly when I saw it at Evo East, it may be hi-res but it still looked horrible to me.

I'll go ahead and say SF3:2I. It's got the awesome SF3 graphics with MUCH nicer backgrounds and much better presentation overall. It was a lot of eye candy,that game! KOf XI is another favourite of mine.IMO i thought 3S had the best presentation despite having the most mundane bgs of the series. But I agree that the backgrounds in 2I were very beautiful

Shade
06-21-2007, 08:40 PM
Wow.

How deluded do you have to be to accuse someone of being high for liking a 2D fighter for it's high resolution sprites? I mean seriously, if I had said something like "I think rainbows are pretty pffffffffffffft man light me up another bowl", I could understand. However, all I did was comment on Akatsuki prettiness.

Just giving you the heads up -

- MUGEN has hi-res capabilities.
(http://i16.tinypic.com/4kehv7k.jpg)

- Akatsuki uses sprites, ala pixels. (http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/6315/saico5.gif)

MUGEN's only limited by the person using it.

Johneh
06-21-2007, 08:46 PM
Just giving you the heads up -

- MUGEN has hi-res capabilities.
(http://i16.tinypic.com/4kehv7k.jpg)

- Akatsuki uses sprites, ala pixels. (http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/6315/saico5.gif)

MUGEN's only limited by the person using it.

...and the people developing for it.


EDIT: BTW, you thoroughly proved that MUGEN's max resolution is 640 by 480. Good job. No matter what, 640 by 480 stretched on a full screen, is gonna look shitty. I don't care how big the Broli you draw up for it is, kiddo, it's still limited to the limited program.

Shade
06-21-2007, 08:50 PM
...and the people developing for it.


EDIT: BTW, you thoroughly proved that MUGEN's max resolution is 640 by 480. Good job. No matter what, 640 by 480 stretched on a full screen, is gonna look shitty. I don't care how big the Broli you draw up for it is, kiddo, it's still limited to the limited program.

I thought you were high, but now I see you're just a moron. Congrats.

Here, have some more Hi-Res goodness. - http://i2.tinypic.com/4pedca0.png

Johneh
06-21-2007, 08:55 PM
I thought you were high, but now I see you're just a moron. Congrats.

I see you resort to name calling when you're proven wrong. Way to be an asshat.

Again, how the HELL is 640 by 480 HI RES? FOR GOD SAKES I HAVE MONITORS FROM 1995 THAT HAD HIGHER RESOLUTION THAT THAT. Do you not get that those images you're posting AREN'T THUMBNAILS?

MannyKal
06-21-2007, 08:55 PM
um.....

Art Of Fucking Fighting 3 anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjbKwh3mU-Y

Shade
06-21-2007, 08:57 PM
I see you resort to name calling when you're proven wrong. Way to be an asshat.

Thank you, and you'd have to be a moron, if you look at those images, with hi-res sprites, and hi-res stages, and thus still say MUGEN's max res is 640 x 480.

Mixah
06-21-2007, 08:58 PM
I see you resort to name calling when you're proven wrong. Way to be an asshat.

No, actually, he proved you wrong. Mugen can handle hi res sprites. the max resolution of the screen has nothing to do with what sprites it handles, as seen in guilty gear and HNK. The overall resolution is one thing, but the sprites are still high res. It's not exactly like SF3 sprites are really high res. They're only a SMALL BIT larger than SF2 sprites.

Gorehound
06-21-2007, 09:06 PM
A shame not many people will admit this....And the fact that the PGM hardware was pretty much the same as a Neo-Geo!....



Thank You

Somebody here understands about Martial Masters, all I hear is 3s this and 3s that!!

Warzard is still tops, gots to be one of the most beautiful looking Capcom fighters ever made!

Shade
06-21-2007, 09:10 PM
Warzard is still tops, gots to be one of the most beautiful looking Capcom fighters ever made!

I agree there. Edges out 3rd Strike by a tiny, tiny margin, in my "Best Looking Capcom 2-D Fighter" Book.

Kataklysmic
06-21-2007, 10:38 PM
Y'know what's funny? Everyone wants high quality 2D sprites, yet lots of you would rather take a flat 2D GG sprite over a 2D Warzard character with massive colors and depth. This shit cracks me up. :tup:

Seriously, Warzard & Arcana Heart for the win.

Saotome Kaneda
06-21-2007, 10:42 PM
um.....

Art Of Fucking Fighting 3 anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjbKwh3mU-Y
So ahead of its time.

JubeiNinja69
06-21-2007, 10:47 PM
too bad the gameplay wasn't.

Shade
06-21-2007, 10:53 PM
Y'know what's funny? Everyone wants high quality 2D sprites, yet lots of you would rather take a flat 2D GG sprite over a 2D Warzard character with massive colors and depth. This shit cracks me up. :tup:

Seriously, Warzard & Arcana Heart for the win.

You know, I must have felt the same way back when it first came out. And while the games sprites have their own appeal to them, most other titles (not even just CPS3 games) beat GGX's sprites hands down, in terms of frame count, and sprite detail.

BUT YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES, RIGHT!?! The bigger the better, no matter how undetailed they look!

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4016/ryuqualityjj1.gif

QUALITY!

Cantrip
06-21-2007, 10:55 PM
I'll prolly be the only one to say this but my vote goes to last blade 2. This game looks so good I forget its on neo geo.

Supremo
06-21-2007, 10:55 PM
Outside of the CPS-3 games, I think Samurai Shodown III is the prettiest 2d fighter... Gorgeous art, animation, sprites and backgrounds.

Sano
06-22-2007, 12:52 AM
Yeah his name escapes me right now, I'll look it up when I get home but the main guy behind Odin Sphere who also was the main guy behing the character designs used to work for Capcom. He worked on SF2 CE and Slam Masters. So Odin Sphere can most def get a nod. Besides, it's a new 2D game on a platform, no not a handheld - A PLATFORM! Man everybody with a PS2 or a PS3 since it's backwards compatible go out and buy it already. :tup:

George Kamitani. When he was with Capcom he was a game designer but now he is well known as an artist - He is the main artist on Odin Sphere. And the main person behind the entire game too. :bgrin:

phoenixnl
06-22-2007, 03:55 AM
I would've loved to yell "Guilty Gear!" But besides the absolutely wonderful graphics and presentation; it has very shitty animation. SF3 has me drooling all over my arcade stick every time. Those animations are fantastic.

Garou; for it's time had insane good presentation; and still does.

What I don't understand though; is why people like Akatsuki Blitzkampf :S. That game is really really ugly. The characters have bad proportions; and they all stand as if they had baseball bat shoved up their asses, the animations are choppy too. Presentation of the effects are pretty cool though; a bit cheesy, but so is HNK, and that's cool too in it's cheesyness.
But also the backgrounds are just badly edited photographs of real life places most of the time; and it looks terrible.

I personally think the more pixeled doujin's like Melty Blood and Big Bang Beat look so much better; beautiful animations and presentation.

And let's not forget to mention how awesome Street Fighter Alpha 2 looks.

elvis_a_presley
06-22-2007, 06:11 AM
International Karate Plus. How good was that sunset background?

Christ, I'm getting too old for this...

Xorcist
06-22-2007, 06:46 AM
What about Martial Masters? That game had some decently detailed animations.

NEBULOSO
06-22-2007, 08:30 AM
Warzard is still tops, gots to be one of the most beautiful looking Capcom fighters ever made!

Warzard does have some of the most polished looking graphics out of all the Capcom fighters. I'm also looking at Ring of Destruction, as those are some of the most detailed sprites using Capcom's CPS2 hardware. :wow:

I saw someone mention Primal Rage
Myself and HH mentioned PR, as the Topics Title did not specify to any certain kind of style used to create the games, graphics.

Jaurenlo
06-22-2007, 09:15 AM
SF3..ding.

I always like GG design tho.

n8archer_XI
06-22-2007, 09:59 AM
No, actually, he proved you wrong. Mugen can handle hi res sprites. the max resolution of the screen has nothing to do with what sprites it handles, as seen in guilty gear and HNK. The overall resolution is one thing, but the sprites are still high res. It's not exactly like SF3 sprites are really high res. They're only a SMALL BIT larger than SF2 sprites. you can really tell the difference when you match a 3rd Strike sprite against a SFII sprite in a Mugen match; you can almost see a 3D effect on the SFIII sprites...

Shade
06-22-2007, 11:14 AM
you can almost see a 3D effect on the SFIII sprites...


? (filler)

Hanzo_Hasashi
06-22-2007, 12:20 PM
I saw someone mention Primal Rage. Well, then you might aswell include Clayfighter, all the Mortal Kombat titles Pre 4, etc etc, because from the looks of the discussion, we were talking about fighting games that use pixels, and not digitized graphics (which Primal Rage, uses).

Er......... I think you are confused here... ALL 2d games (fighting, shooting etc) uses PIXELS to draw the SPRITES on the screen right? I mentioned PR because has too good anf fluid animation to his date and has some of the clearer graphics i have eer seen. CF is ugly and MK2 was the prettier of the 2d mks but the animation is not even on par with SF and never with PR.

woof
06-22-2007, 12:28 PM
art of fighting 3 was really really fantastic looking too

NegroNinja
06-22-2007, 12:50 PM
GG, best character designs. HOS looks sick.

3S is the best animated though..not that it means much to much I don't think they reached real deep into the well for the designs on most of those people...people just look kind of generic..but then again it wasn't supposed to be horribly flashy/dramatic.

Shade
06-22-2007, 12:50 PM
Er......... I think you are confused here... ALL 2d games (fighting, shooting etc) uses PIXELS to draw the SPRITES on the screen right? I mentioned PR because has too good anf fluid animation to his date and has some of the clearer graphics i have eer seen. CF is ugly and MK2 was the prettier of the 2d mks but the animation is not even on par with SF and never with PR.

No. Pixels - Street Fighter, King of Fighters.. Super Mario Brothers, Sonic the Hedgehog, etc etc.

Mortal Kombat, MK2, MK3, Ultimate MK3, MKTrilogy, Tattoo Assassins, Street Fighter: The Movie The Game, Primal Rage, ClayFighter series, all use what they call digitized graphics. That means taking something from real life (motion captured/photographed people, clay models), and putting them in-game as characters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_art

List of games with Digitized sprites, instead of pixel sprites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Video_games_with_digitized_sprites

elvis_a_presley
06-22-2007, 03:24 PM
Anyone played "Daraku Tenshi - The Fallen Angels" by Psikyo? Another low res game, but incredibly smooth animation.

The_Dragon
06-22-2007, 04:15 PM
The Rumble Fish 2 has the best and cleanest animations for a 2D fighter I have seen. Wins hands down as far as I'm concerned.

isamu
06-23-2007, 02:50 AM
I know I'm in the minority here but I'm gonna hafta go with the Genesis version of Mortal Kombat 1.

RockCho
06-27-2007, 02:12 AM
Garou Mark of the Wolves has my vote.

Character redesign of Terry was awesome. All the character designs were winners, full of personality and cool appearances. SF3's designs were pretty weak in comparison.

yungb254
06-27-2007, 02:21 AM
every sf3 game, MOTW, LB, and martial masters... All pretty fluid. A2 for what it is looks real good too.

Lets hope XII is way ahead of GGXX and HnK sprite wise.

The Epidemic
06-27-2007, 04:45 AM
what about shaq-fu? nobody here thinks shaq-fu is pretty? dont front guys....

plasmakill
06-27-2007, 05:01 AM
I would say animation wise 3rd Strike and Garou. Overall eye candy I would probably go with guilty gear.

DevilJin 01
06-27-2007, 05:16 AM
7 pages of a topic about "prettiest 2d fighter". Anyone arguing yet?

The Rumble Fish 2 has the best and cleanest animations for a 2D fighter I have seen. Wins hands down as far as I'm concerned.

For me...I'm not the biggest fan of the way that game looks. The animations are very stiff and robotic. Watch when someone dies or gets knocked in the air. They fall like string puppets. The actual art of the characters and backgrounds is good (granted...like Battle Fantasia they are modeled in 3d...not 2d) but the animations are way too stiff. Battle Fantasia looks like it'll correct the stiff animations of TRF.

Terry_nb
06-27-2007, 06:05 AM
Garou: MOTW, I love the art still to this day and man, that Buster Wolf is so damn well animated as all the supers. The special effects really blow. Also all the details in the stages, the small animation of the chars like Rock taking his hand through his hair etc. No wonder it is besides SSTenka my favorite SNK game and only one I played for a long period of time. The beauty of mad combos into these colorful supers was alone a thing, which had me addicted.

Festival6667
06-27-2007, 06:10 AM
I agree there. Edges out NG or 2I by a tiny, tiny margin, in my "Best Looking Capcom 2-D Fighter" Book.There, it sounds ever better now ;)

SuicidalGrandpa
06-27-2007, 09:12 AM
I've actually never seen Rumble Fish played

Hyperhal
06-27-2007, 11:05 AM
Last Blade 2 in high res would beast in prettiness all over those games.

Holy hell would that shatter anything up to now and forever. Can you imagine the backgrounds on that thing?

Terry_nb
06-27-2007, 01:54 PM
I dunno why I got some huge neg rep for my first post in here, but beauty always lies in the eyes of the viewer. These things are never truly objective.

For example, I don't like most of the special effects in any SFIII and can truly say Garou's are far better. For example I could compare Terry's Power Wave to a Hadoken. But someone else might like the SFIII style more and so prefers the other way around. Means considering 3rd or whatever as more pretty, beautyful etc. Well, guess you can't state your opinion in an open manner, just as I thought I might contribute a bit more in terms of posts ...

woof
06-27-2007, 02:01 PM
god who cares


x person negs y person because x person doesnt agree with y persons opinion AHHHHH CRAZY GONNA MAKE A POST ABOUT IT

Terry_nb
06-27-2007, 02:08 PM
god who cares


x person negs y person because x person doesnt agree with y persons opinion AHHHHH CRAZY GONNA MAKE A POST ABOUT IT

Well, why not, I just wanted to state an opinion about an experience I never had before.

Maybe the user who repped really couldn't see why I prefered Garou, so I tried to clear this up in the second post and mix a feeling in. I put it in the best way I can describe and write in the english language. In the end, I just wanted to explain my preference in more detail. The neg rep of a few hundreds was just a side mention bringing me to the point, that some people might not understud me. Well, sorry for the off topic now. :)

Edit: Oh and thanks for your rep. :)

ShinobiDawg
04-04-2008, 03:32 PM
3s has progessive scan?

AFAIK only the DC version has it. Oh yeah and maybe the xbox version as well, but ps2 does not I am affraid!
The dc version has several options video, even 240p option I think!
Check gamefaqs
Prettiest fighter? hnk. Hnk cannot have more animation because the game needs to be fast. faster than ts. Same with guilty gear.
I did like the marvel superheroes entry though nice colours, big sprites, I loved the hell out of it way back on the ps.
Art of fighting 2 had for the time the biggest and baddest sprites ever and after a few blows, characters would bleed a little, more kicks an punches and their faces would become black and blue and their stance would become that of an old man, heavily breathing. AOF2 wins!!!!!!!!!!!!

FatalFuryD
04-04-2008, 04:46 PM
Yeah. This is why I play most all fighters, because when a game's not competitive, it usually at least has the 1 player aspect covered.

Well, my picks for great graphics go to(judging from the artistic point and entirely leavng gameplay):
Galaxy Fight(Gfx is probably the only reason I play this shitty fighter), Kabuki Klash, Last Blade I, Sam Sho 3, KoF 96, SF2, Alpha 2, X-Men Children of atoms, SF3 2I, VF 4, Soul Cal I, RBS(best. pheonix. ever), FF3, SF EX+a. Capcom's marvel vs whatever series especially took stage designing to another level, though now they just don't give a damn any more.

Didn't like Garou MOTW bgs too much, but damn that game's supers looked fukken amazing on NeoGeo. Yall have to watch it with slowdown on screen, it makes them so much better looking. On DC and PS2 ports they kinda seem to have less impact.

For computer games, QoH: Party's breaker LOOKed pretty damn good for a while until Melty Blood showed up. Now there are Big Bang Beat, Touhou IAMP, and Capoera fighter 3 etc to shit all over EFZ, QoH, VG etc. Advanced VG2 had its moments too.

My bone with computer fighters is that they treat bgs as a second thought, an extra. There is no interaction whatsoever to what's going on the foreground. Shit we're lucky if there is one or two persons even on the background now. IMO, this is also why 90s fighters, at least compared to the ones now, to me are so much more alive and funner to play.

Dencore
04-04-2008, 06:55 PM
Well King of Fighters XII will certainly take the top spot when it comes out, as of right now even though at times the animation is ridiculously choppy I'll have to with Guilty Gear XX series.

Antonius
04-04-2008, 07:31 PM
Garou, Last Blade 2, and Third Strike!

chopperbyrne
04-05-2008, 04:31 AM
Rise of the Robots

Absolutely shit game, but it did look nice.

centennial
04-05-2008, 05:00 AM
Wait? So are we looking for pretty or smooth animations and high resolution sprites?

catchafire
04-05-2008, 08:14 AM
Well King of Fighters XII will certainly take the top spot when it comes out, as of right now even though at times the animation is ridiculously choppy I'll have to with Guilty Gear XX series.

Got to agree w/ KoF12, even though it isn't out yet. Maybe SFIV will look better once both games come out.

Xorcist
04-05-2008, 08:20 AM
wow you guys are newb...

the prettiest fighter is obviously...

Pretty Fighter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygRrv1AImAI)

or maybe it's sequel...

Pretty Fighter X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wxU1rmmhw4&feature=related)

Lobelia Mk. IV
04-05-2008, 03:02 PM
The King of Fighters XII...

Zazzarius
04-05-2008, 03:09 PM
currently: Guilty Gear

coming soon: the trailer to BlazBlue looks fucking GORGEOUS. sure the design itself is generic "i wish i were guilty gear" fare, but DAMN those backgrounds and higher than GG hi-res sprites are just jaw dropping.

SN3S
04-05-2008, 03:14 PM
currently: Guilty Gear

coming soon: the trailer to BlazBlue looks fucking GORGEOUS. sure the design itself is generic "i wish i were guilty gear" fare, but DAMN those backgrounds and higher than GG hi-res sprites are just jaw dropping.

I agree with that.

KOFXII Is close in the running though

Hayama Akito
04-05-2008, 07:11 PM
Just a "bonus" for this thread, but Waku Waku 7 was fucking impressive in the year that was released (1996).

Luigi-Bo 87
04-06-2008, 12:11 AM
Last Blade 2, Garou is a very close 2nd.

BaSiK_TeKniK
04-06-2008, 12:20 AM
Garou: Mark Of the Wolves

*Onslaught*
04-06-2008, 09:53 AM
SF2HD. Gorgeous, nothing compares.

xJudas
04-06-2008, 10:05 AM
Guilty Gear son!

Ukyo Tachibana
04-06-2008, 10:30 AM
BlazBlue is probably going to be the new king of amazing looking graphics on a 2D fighter.

deadfrog
04-06-2008, 10:32 AM
It all depends on what you like. Visual aesthetics, as art, are a very subjective thing.

If you ask me, ST's parallax scrolling is still the coolest thing in the world. :wgrin:

Hokuto No Ken is an interesting achievement to me because it looks exactly the way they intended. See this very smart post from another thread:
a stylistic decision; see the absence of any 'motion blur' frames on some moves in HnK, which gives it that hard-hitting, old-school anime feel.

The SF3's have incredible framerates. That animation is sooo butter-smooth. I thiiiink I prefer 2I's ideas to 3S, though, and it bothers me that it feels like they took a step *backward* in the artistic department.

GGXX looks absolutely stunning on a bigscreen HDTV, and probably holds up better than anything else right now when displayed like that. The higher-res really does start to pay off in that sort of video format. It also benefits from inspired design and direction.
My personal grievance with it, however--though I am complete novice to the game--is that it can be difficult to keep track of what's going on while you're playing it; the picture feels too busy and there is little done to make important things stand out from unimportant things. To me this warrants demerits from a functional, practical standpoint. I couldn't follow MvC2 either when I first started watching, but my brain/eyes eventually learned to catch up and pick out the important elements on their own... I'll have to wait and see with GGXX.

It's been really cool checking out videos of the less well-known games that others have been mentioning. Warzard and some of those SNK titles are actually pretty rock-on nice.

I'm looking forward to seeing a completed SFHD and KOF12 in motion.

Is it just me or does Sengoku BASARA X look kind of boring?!!

What little I've seen of BlazBlue looks breathtaking, although the backgrounds incorporate 3D, which would technically disqualify it in here.

Dingo
04-06-2008, 10:47 AM
Garou: Mark of the Wolves, Last Blade 2, and Street Fighter 3 (any version).

SF2HD is looking amazing but looks a little funny in spots considering it is HiDef sprites with the same animations of SF2.

Guilty Gear XX has really nice looking sprites, but there are just somethings in the visuals (I think the effects) that I'm not a big fan of.

SIMPLY_HUGO
04-06-2008, 10:52 AM
kof
3s
cvs2 haha sorry sorry..

albertoavena
04-06-2008, 02:27 PM
The new KOF looks pretty nice, I my opinion.

Probably go with that and 3s. I think Alpha 3 looks pretty decent too...

MUSOLINI
04-06-2008, 10:14 PM
sf3,a y of the 3.

motw

SS3

LB1 & 2

warzard

KOFXII.

Mr.hitBOX
04-07-2008, 02:37 AM
yall need 2 play dat Tuff E Nuff great animation for its time...seriously

Sexperienced.
04-07-2008, 03:03 AM
for me, its last blade 2 but only 75% of the entire cast look good. i think they spent more time only developing the main (top tier) characters. just compare Moriya to shingen. i was hoping that Sengoku BASARA X woud look a lot like LB... oh well.

its a combination of the character designs and frame rate for me. i couldnt care less about hd.

ggxx and HnK look too choppy imo.

n8archer_XI
04-16-2008, 12:42 PM
Pocket Fighter. Or, on a more realistic note, KOFXII...

Rik
04-16-2008, 12:51 PM
KOF12 looks to be the best looking 2D fighter ever, I would have said the samething with SF2HD but with the graphical nerfs it doesn't look good anymore.

Mokura
04-21-2008, 07:18 AM
I've always thought ST is the prettiest (no other game w/ colors like that), then 3S.

Hisham
04-21-2008, 07:52 AM
Akatsuki BK has some of the best sprites for a game out right now.

ST:HD or KOF12 are looking better tho.

krazykone123
04-21-2008, 11:18 AM
Street Fighter 3
Hokuto no Ken
Street Fighter Alpha (ya rly)
Guilty Gear XX
Samurai Showdown 5 (it's still okay sorta)

fallot
04-21-2008, 12:07 PM
Akatsuki Blitzkampf is a fine looking game (if a little... cube-y?) but its sprites are nowhere near the "best"

TTZ231
04-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Super Turbo - the color and art is just nice. Look at the sunset of Dee Jay's background, atleast on every version except Genesis lol.

NG or 2I also overall look good. 3S, the backgrounds are all stiff and shit, shit looks painted.

Arcana looks good because even hooked up to HD it doesnt smear up, or get pixelized. But some animations are lacking.

shoju
04-22-2008, 02:56 AM
3s looks and animates really well but the character design is terrible and a lot of the backgrounds are boring. AH is another one with bad character design and very dull backgrounds.

CVS2 is the best at the moment, though CVS1 had some better backgrounds.

MaybeMemories
04-22-2008, 03:03 AM
Waku Waku 7


or SF Alpha 2/3

real 2d fighter sprites, rich, cartoony, artistic, sex

FoldoutChair
04-22-2008, 04:08 AM
Akatsuki Blitzkampf
Blazblue
Third Strike

JackTenrac!
04-22-2008, 05:49 AM
Fuck 3S. Get NG. Fuck NG. It's SI. Alpha 2 is a close second.

Jonathan Ingram
04-22-2008, 12:52 PM
Second Impact's character select screen and lack of Sean's OG stage make me prefer New Generation.

So on that note, I'd go with:


Street Fighter III: New Generation
Garou: Mark of the Wolves
Hokuto no Ken
Guilty Gear XX: Accent Core


BlazBlue and KoF XII both look gorgeous from screenshots, but I'd need to see both of them in person to truly be blown away.

Bob Sagat
04-22-2008, 01:19 PM
I've never played it myself, but Chaos Breaker seems to have some sweet graphics and animation.
I actually spent the last 2 years trying to figure out what this game was called. I was just about to start a desperation thread when I finally typed the lucky words on google...

Edizzle
04-23-2008, 08:39 AM
In terms of games that I have played...

SFIII, 3rd Strike
Last Blade 2
SF alpha 2
GG series
GMOTW
Martial Masters (for being a relatively non-popular title, I liked the style and gameplay)

As for games I haven't played or aren't out yet (but want to :sad:)...

KOF12
Hokuto no Ken
SFII HD
Blazblue

JackTenrac!
04-23-2008, 08:42 AM
3S lacks distracting movement.

n8archer_XI
04-27-2008, 01:40 PM
Waku Waku 7That game looked nice, but was grainy and had that distracting zoom feature...

Superking
04-27-2008, 01:51 PM
S H O' N U F F!!!

Shade
04-27-2008, 03:27 PM
Waku Waku 7

WW7 is purdy. One of my faves.

Matman
04-28-2008, 01:08 AM
Eternal Champions was always visually appealing to me.