Cosmic marvel fans unite....

[Chaos]

Anyway I'm major into cosmic marvel and not so much into anything else. Anyone else read Annihilation? Views? For the record Silver Surfer is my fav. comic book character in a tie with that MUTHER HUMPING TITAN Thanos. And yeah they have been for 10 years damn FF movie bandwagon hoppers. Anyway discuss all things cosmic here.

[Zephyranthes]

The Surfer is probably my favorite superhero as well. Silver Surfer #54 was the second comic I ever owned. I gave it away years ago, and have spent the rest of my life since then trying to find a new copy to replace the gaping void in my soul. Not much can compete with pre-Photoshop RON LIM POWERBLASTS.

That first issue of MK Silver Surfer: Requiem is very nice. It could end up being a classic Surfer story.

[Sano]

I'm not that big on the cosmic stuff, but I did love Secret Wars 1, (screw it I say it counts because they were in space lol) the Infinity Gem saga and Infinity Gauntlet saga. And Annihilation was the best crossover Marvel had in years, like a gillion times better than Civil War. Ronan, Nova, Gamora and Thanos all were great in Annihilation.

I'm liking Nova's limited series too. Got Annihilation Conquest this week but haven't read it yet.

[P. Gorath]

the cosmic stuff was some of the first Marvel stuff I got into besides the awesomeness that was ROBOCOP. Surfer #45-75 was basically my marvel golden years

[Gain]

i never really followed much of the cosmic world, but whenever there is a thanos war, i bought the books... i haven't bought a comic in a year though...

Thanos is #1 in my book, in terms of cosmic marvel... through Thanos i learned of and began to like Tyrant (though i don't know much about him, either than basic stuff and a few stories from Thanos)...

i also like Ego the living planet, the collector and the watchers... i thought all three were pretty neat ideas back in the day... i never really read much on them though...

i only liked captain Marvel when Spider-man got his powers and beat the tri-sentinel... there was an issue of "what if...?" that was premised on the idea of parker keeping the powers... that was pretty cool...

i used to like phoenix, but i get bored of her real fast for some reason... galactus would be ok if so much stuff wasn't written and rehashed about him so many times... gah lak tus is the epitome of why i don't like galactus...

~

i would have to say that, IN MY OPINION, the only place DC excells Marvel is in terms of their cosmic characters... maybe because so much of their good characters have some "cosmic" tie in...

[Chaos]

I read somewhere that a series was coming out that would "bring some order" to the magical (strange/shuma,etc.) marvel world like annihilation did to the cosmic one. Although I don't know exactly what order that brought except to reintroduce many people to the key players. I was assuming with the surfer in FF2 that he would get a new book but I realize if he did it would probably be celestial and not involve many of the usual suspects. Even a mini-series would be cool though. Go look at marvel's website, they have abandoned us.

One of my favorite Infinity spin-offs is Infinity Abyss though. It did have the requisite spider man appearance to sell comics but Thanos + Strange + Surfer = must have.

[Sano]

I read somewhere that a series was coming out that would "bring some order" to the magical (strange/shuma,etc.) marvel world like annihilation did to the cosmic one. Although I don't know exactly what order that brought except to reintroduce many people to the key players. I was assuming with the surfer in FF2 that he would get a new book but I realize if he did it would probably be celestial and not involve many of the usual suspects. Even a mini-series would be cool though. Go look at marvel's website, they have abandoned us.

One of my favorite Infinity spin-offs is Infinity Abyss though. It did have the requisite spider man appearance to sell comics but Thanos + Strange + Surfer = must have.

Marvel's magic crossover is called Mystic Arcana. It already started 2 weeks ago, Magik's (80s New Mutants character) MA comic already came out.

Wouldn't hold my breath on Shuma-Gorath since Marvel hardly ever uses him lol! His last appearance was in Marvel Knights (Fantastic) 4 last year. His name was used as a password to get into Strange's Avengers hide out recently. He did recieve a Marvel Universe bio FINALLY last year and the new Mystic Arcana Universe comic does talk about the Iron Clad Books of Shuma-Gorath (even though they were destroyed by Crom/Conan so doubt those will show up...)

But yeah one thing Quesada doesn't like how there are no rules in magic because well.... it's magic LOL so this series is supposed to establish what they are. And possibly answer whether or not Chaos magic exists - Bendis is cwaaazy..... having Strange say there is no Chaos Magic lol!

[Chaos]

One of the great problems of magical marvel has always been the varying interpretations of what can be done. I thought cosmic marvel was ambiguous about power levels and all until I read a little Dr. Strange. I really have little interest in the typical books (Wolverine,X-men,spidey) so I'm trying to get into the magic universe as well. I will pick up the new books for sure.

I guess continuity is just damn near impossible with writer changes so frequently. Go to any of the comic book forums with an arena and its amazing the high end/low end feat variance.

[kane_warhead]

I love how annihilation made Super Skrull into a worthy character. Not just some filler character.

[kane_warhead]

Marvel's magic crossover is called Mystic Arcana. It already started 2 weeks ago, Magik's (80s New Mutants character) MA comic already came out.

Wouldn't hold my breath on Shuma-Gorath since Marvel hardly ever uses him lol! His last appearance was in Marvel Knights (Fantastic) 4 last year. His name was used as a password to get into Strange's Avengers hide out recently. He did recieve a Marvel Universe bio FINALLY last year and the new Mystic Arcana Universe comic does talk about the Iron Clad Books of Shuma-Gorath (even though they were destroyed by Crom/Conan so doubt those will show up...)

But yeah one thing Quesada doesn't like how there are no rules in magic because well.... it's magic LOL so this series is supposed to establish what they are. And possibly answer whether or not Chaos magic exists - Bendis is cwaaazy..... having Strange say there is no Chaos Magic lol!

I would let Neil Gaiman write Mystic Arcana.

In Marvel universe, Dr. Strange is godlike.

[box]

I was pretty big on cosmic Marvel back during the Infinity days.

Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War, Infinity Crusade and the countless tie-ins with the regular monthlies.

Also picked up a couple issues of Warlock and the Infinity Watch.

I picked up Marvel Universe: The End, but it just wasn't the same. I am definitely gonna check out Annihilation though. The new Quasar looks pretty cool.

[Zephyranthes]

The original Infinity Gauntlet story is pretty good for what it was. I'll always have a soft spot for that one because it was one of the things that got me excited about comics in the first place when I was young. Plus... RON LIM POWERBLASTS

[ToyRobotTerror]

i saw the cover annihilation conquest, are they ressurecting waylander or whatever?

[Difoj]

I've always liked the cosmic side of Marvel, Thanos being my favorite villain of all time, but seeing all the Cosmic Beings in the Infinity Gauntlet saga was also very cool. I started Annihilation, but stopped once they killed Thanos, I will go back and finish it at some point but right now I am still mad about that :mad:

[Pained Auron]

I've always liked the cosmic side of Marvel, Thanos being my favorite villain of all time, but seeing all the Cosmic Beings in the Infinity Gauntlet saga was also very cool. I started Annihilation, but stopped once they killed Thanos, I will go back and finish it at some point but right now I am still mad about that :mad:

you gotta go back and finish it asap. the story is great. plus nova vs annihilus is one of the best fights i have ever seen in a comic; and the killing blow is very creative imo. trust me on this. go finish it. ask DS. i'm hardly ever wrong when it comes to suggesting a story

[Sano]

I've always liked the cosmic side of Marvel, Thanos being my favorite villain of all time, but seeing all the Cosmic Beings in the Infinity Gauntlet saga was also very cool. I started Annihilation, but stopped once they killed Thanos, I will go back and finish it at some point but right now I am still mad about that :mad:

Lol Thanos is banging Death now so he got what he always wanted. This point is kind of driven a little further in the last issue (subtely though) which is why you should finish it. :smile:

[Wellman]

Annihilation: Conquest's surprise villian was a shocker. I didn't even know that group was still alive.

The one thing I hate about the format of Annihilation is that the wait is so freaking long. Sure you get four warm up stories before the main event, but damn I want MORE NOW!

[Khaotika!]

<3 Thanos LONG TIME.

One of my fave characters ever in comics.

Which is sad, because all I own about him is the Infinity Gauntlet and the prequel where he gets the Gems. Recommendations, please! :lovin:

[Sano]

Annihilation: Conquest's surprise villian was a shocker. I didn't even know that group was still alive.



Yeah I haven't seen them since the 90s. Interesting choice! :tup:

[{PFH}-Lake]

the last comics I read was about these green robots killing everyone, and only Deaths head could stop them.

[RockCho]

Thanos Quest was awesome lead up to the...
Infinity Gauntlet which was top tier. =P
Infinity War was OK...
Infinity Crusade had me geh-ing just looking at the covers (never picked it up).

Ron Lim Surfer comics were bad ass. I remember this one issue with some purple dude with a derby hat, cape and round mirror plates on his hands and Lim drew the most kick ass jump kick I had ever seen up to that point.

You've got to love Marvel's Cosmic Jesus. =P
Thanos is also pretty bad ass. They made him pretty lame in the cartoon back in the late 90's. Made him sound too loony rather than calculating and coniving. =\

[Zephyranthes]

Ron Lim Surfer comics were bad ass. I remember this one issue with some purple dude with a derby hat, cape and round mirror plates on his hands and Lim drew the most kick ass jump kick I had ever seen up to that point.


I know, man. That was a great issue. I think that was #60 and it was the first issue after all those summer Infinity Gauntlet tie-ins. That purple guy's name was Midnight, or Midnight Sun. I looked him up a while ago. Apparently he started out as some obscure villain for The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu.

Now, how you go from fighting The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu to fighting the Silver Surfer on the moon to teaming up with the Inhumans is beyond me. Someone needs to bring this dude back.

[Sano]

Thanos is also pretty bad ass. They made him pretty lame in the cartoon back in the late 90's. Made him sound too loony rather than calculating and coniving. =\

Man Fox messes up everything. Couldn't have Thanos in love with Death because they didn't want to scare the kiddies so they made him in love with a BS Lady Chaos statue in the Silver Surfer cartoon. :tdown:

[ToyRobotTerror]

I hate phalanx. I kind of liked the design they used when xmen saved the shiar but they always find ways to make specials with them boring.

[RockCho]

Man Fox messes up everything. Couldn't have Thanos in love with Death because they didn't want to scare the kiddies so they made him in love with a BS Lady Chaos statue in the Silver Surfer cartoon. :tdown:

Eh... Fox I felt was pretty spot on with the X-Men voice actors. Cyke, Wolverine, Gambit, Jean, Prof X, Magneto, Storm, Rogue and Beast all sounded like I would have imagined them.

I could deal with Chaos. It's a kid's cartoon... but with the Jack Kirby-ish art direction and the fact that it was Silver Surfer~!!! Man... it let me down that they'd totally screw up Thanos's character AND voice actor. He sounds like he's aping freaking Caesor Romero's take on the Joker from the 60's Batman TV show. =\

Thanos is the epitome of calculating assholes. He should have sounded more like Destro from G.I. Joe.

[RockCho]

I know, man. That was a great issue. I think that was #60 and it was the first issue after all those summer Infinity Gauntlet tie-ins. That purple guy's name was Midnight, or Midnight Sun. I looked him up a while ago. Apparently he started out as some obscure villain for The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu.

Now, how you go from fighting The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu to fighting the Silver Surfer on the moon to teaming up with the Inhumans is beyond me. Someone needs to bring this dude back.

Man! Someone needs to bring RON LIM back while they're at it.

[Sano]

Eh... Fox I felt was pretty spot on with the X-Men voice actors. Cyke, Wolverine, Gambit, Jean, Prof X, Magneto, Storm, Rogue and Beast all sounded like I would have imagined them.



I agree. It's just that Fox has a history of making things even more kid friendly when it isn't necessary.

They didn't allow X-Men to use the Brood because they were to scary so they used "The Colony." They didn't want Nightcrawler scaring the kiddies so they turned Kurt Wagner into the Pope, come on now he's not THAT religous... at least not at that time this was all prior to the Claremont Nightcrawler's a priest arc... :confused:

Batman TAS had lots of stuff to deal with when they were on Fox too. They didn't allow them to use the young Robin because they didn't want to see children in danger so they used teen Robin. The WB didn't have a hang up over that so they later got to use Tim Drake. Dini and Timm had a way of making a lot of the restrictions work for them like Fox later on wanting them to include Robin in every episode against their wishes. Marvel toons, not so much... arguably X-Men is a lot harder than Batman to do given the subject matter at times...

I dunno... my biggest issue with the Silver Surfer cartoon outside of Thanos/Chaos was removing the Fantastic Four from SS's origin story. BLASPHEMY! :rofl:

Hearing SS constantly whine about "My Shalabal" over and over AND OVER again was a hoot though. Homeboy was WHOOPED. :looney:

I also found it hella funny how it was only one season and it ended on a cliffhanger. The 90s Avengers cartoon did the same, so did MTV Spider-Man. Whoa Marvel toons are done by a bunch of confident sons of a bitches who thinks their cartoons will get renewed no problem so it's okay to end things with a cliffhanger because these toons will most def return and things won't be left up in limbo... :wasted:

[P. Gorath]

I know, man. That was a great issue. I think that was #60 and it was the first issue after all those summer Infinity Gauntlet tie-ins. That purple guy's name was Midnight, or Midnight Sun. I looked him up a while ago. Apparently he started out as some obscure villain for The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu.

Now, how you go from fighting The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu to fighting the Silver Surfer on the moon to teaming up with the Inhumans is beyond me. Someone needs to bring this dude back.
Yep, another one of my favorites from that #50-#75 era.

I also loved the 2-parter guest starring captain marvel where he went to the land of the dead

I actually even collected Dr. Strange during that period, although I dont really know why.

When Infinity Gauntlet originally came out I didnt understand the concept that there would be an "Infinity Gauntlet" series consisting of 6 issues and then a multitude of "An IG Crossover" books. I thought buying IG #1, Silver Surfer #51 and Doc Strange #? would give me the entire story in that one week :yawn: ...I ended up shelling out a crapload for all of those IG spinoff issues.

[Difoj]

you gotta go back and finish it asap. the story is great. plus nova vs annihilus is one of the best fights i have ever seen in a comic; and the killing blow is very creative imo. trust me on this. go finish it. ask DS. i'm hardly ever wrong when it comes to suggesting a story

Yea I just picked up the HC trade, dont feel like looking for the single issues in this mess here, Ill be reading it thruout the week to get up to date, but I doubt I'll be happy cuz of what happens :razzy:

[ToyRobotTerror]

I´m in awe for annihilation. I just hope conquest is as good, i have really high hopes for starlord. Nova is promising but quasars realtionship with moondragon is well sleazy. I didnt know lesbians practiced petting this often.
THIS IS FOR NOVA CORPS is the splash of the year.(my current wallpaper)
page of the year is ronan smashing his hammer across ravenous face GUILTY
Oh i wish someone made a ronan ace wright spoof.

Difoj, Nothing stays dead in the marvel universe. Expect a cheesy comeback in 2-3 years a la marvel.


BTW if Antiphon the overseer was imprisoned in the Kyln how did the watchers appear?
Also since beyonders mortal husk is dead they can bring back he/she/it.


Really need to drink less coffee

/TRT

[Adam Warlock]

You've got to love Marvel's Cosmic Jesus. =P


<-----yessir

Marvel's magic crossover is called Mystic Arcana. It already started 2 weeks ago, Magik's (80s New Mutants character) MA comic already came out.



And I'll bet Warlock's not in it, despite the fact that he's probably second only to Dr. Strange when it comes to the mystic arts. Booooooooooooooooooooo!

I need to pick up this crossover though. What issues have come out related to it?

[Sano]

<-----yessir




And I'll bet Warlock's not in it, despite the fact that he's probably second only to Dr. Strange when it comes to the mystic arts. Booooooooooooooooooooo!

I need to pick up this crossover though. What issues have come out related to it?

Warlock's not in it lol! I think only the Magik issue has come out so far.

[Are_you_okay?!]

ROM The Space Knight should have an all RON LIM comic book, sells would be through the roof lol.

Cosmic Marvel is my second favorite place, only beaten by the Ultimates universe. During a summer of crappy hero Vs. Hero battles it was really refreshing to see the classic good vs. evil motif used so well in Annihilation. All the tie-in comics were amazing, my favorite's being Super Skrull and Silver Surfer. I haven't finished it just yet due to lack of finding it but soon I will get them all, getting a good deal on a bundle.

Cosmic Marvel has a lot of potential if Marvel doesn't do something stupid to screw it up. This Magick arc coming out has potential as well, I'd like to see GR in it honestly, his new comic blows major chunks and he needs to be redeemed.

My guesses for villains would be Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath (Super Skrull was fading fast and he was revitalized, no reason not to do so again), Mordred/Morgan Le Fey, Baron Mordo and Doctor Druid. Mephistor and/or Blackheart could be possible's.

[Adam Warlock]

They need to bring the Midnight Sons back. Midnight Massacre is one of my all-time favs.

[Sano]

Shuma-Gorath etc. - Blackheart

Shuma-Gorath has so few comic book appearances it's not even funny. In the end I think he is WAY too powerful and writers don't know how to deal with him. His appearance involves Dr. Strange having a crazy fight to hold him down and send him back to his dimension, wash, rinse, repeat a few times except for when Shuma-Gorath faced Conan the Barbarian and Crom. His story arcs involve 20 issues talking about him, 2 issues of him showing up. :rofl:

Anyway, with Kulan Gath who tried to awaken Shuma-Gorath before appearing in the new Spider-Man / Red Sonja crossover (second time they've met and Spidey went up against Kulan Gath twice when Marvel owned Red Sonja) I hope Shuma-Gorath gets some kind of cameo. I E-mailed Oeming, the writer about it so here's hoping...

Oeming said before that there would by Hyborian (Conan times) styled Spider-Man villains in the issue so I suggested Shuma-Gorathopus, a freaky combination of Doctor Octopus and Shuma-Gorath, Doc Ock with Shuma-Gorath for a chest HA HA! Hell if he uses that idea I will so not sue and will be 10 issues but FAT CHANCE WRITERS DON'T LISTEN TO INSANE FANBOYS! :looney:

Blackheart... I don't read Ghost Rider but isn't he STILL trapped in the Hellfire Club's basement where he's been since the Fantastic Four Annual of 1999? At least there was some kind of... I dunno version of him in the Ghost Rider movie and he does show up in Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Shuma he's winning! :wow:

You know, I'm starting to get the feeling that Joe Quesada is not playing Marvel vs. Capcom 2... :lol:

[Are_you_okay?!]

I hardly know much on Blackheart, it's quite possible he's stuck in a box somewhere in the Hellfire Club. But if someone breaks him out, that's a different matter. It was weird to see Shuma in MvC2 and the other one (MSH's I think) Maybe Capcom are big fan boy's of Cthulhu rips lol. With the recent GR movie and Emoheart I'm sure BH could play some part, but still, I'm not the writer.

Midnight Sons was always one of my favorite groups, but it never really worked. Could have been just the time period, I'd love to see a return of them. Johnny Blaze with the Hellfire Shotgun was just badass, it was odd to see Morbius and the Nightstalkers as well, could make good friction if a new series ever launched. Little known fact was Blaze and Ketch formed the group, the majority of people think Strange put the team together. I served my educational purpose today lol.

[ToyRobotTerror]

In super skrull 2 page 20 top right there is a design i recognise but i can't remember from where.
Also about the galactus heralds, what happened to nova(frankie raye) and destroyer? Who the hell is red shift ?

[Adam Warlock]

Nova was killed by Morg and the Destroyer Armor was taken by Loki. I don't remember when red-shift came into play at all.

[ToyRobotTerror]

Thanks. By the way when was terrax revived? Wasn't he killed by silver surfer and before that stripped of the power cosmic?

[Wellman]

Could have been but he was bouncing around the back of the Marvel universe for a while. Sentry beat his ass in the last mini, I believe and then he was back in Annihilation. Funny thing there, Morg got revived in Annihilation as well, just to get killed off by Annihilius. Those silly heralds, always coming back from the dead.

Adam Warlock (the gold one) might appear in Annihiation: Conquest yet, there are still a bunch of issues to go and a mysterious savior waiting to be found.

[ToyRobotTerror]

Yeah but that savior is kree.

[Adam Warlock]

Man-made Jesus gets no love.

[kane_warhead]

Man-made Jesus gets no love.

Maybe because he wasn't really written that good since Infinity Gauntlet.

I dunno, I don't really like the Warlock character anyways.

[Wellman]

Yeah but that savior is kree.

I just remember them saying that the savoir was in Kree-space, but I have only read the prologue so far.

[nameingway]

how can anyone not like warlock? dude chills with thanos and doesn't get delt with like everyone else (at least from what i've read). another example of why you should like the master of the soul gem is thanos' "the end", which is probably the best "the end" i've read (imo).

[ToyRobotTerror]

I just remember them saying that the savoir was in Kree-space, but I have only read the prologue so far.

Sure "among the kree" can mean there is someone in kree space but i think they are going to whore out the kree a bit more.

[kane_warhead]

how can anyone not like warlock? dude chills with thanos and doesn't get delt with like everyone else (at least from what i've read). another example of why you should like the master of the soul gem is thanos' "the end", which is probably the best "the end" i've read (imo).

Thanos' The End made Thanos a better character. It didn't do anything to Warlock.

[Adam Warlock]

how can anyone not like warlock? dude chills with thanos and doesn't get delt with like everyone else (at least from what i've read). another example of why you should like the master of the soul gem is thanos' "the end", which is probably the best "the end" i've read (imo).

And the guy that went to hell and beat the devil. Even the Surfer couldn't do that.

Kane: What Warlock centric stories have you read? He's easily my favorite character because he walks the line of good and evil rules with logic. He does what needs to be done without hesitation. He's the quintessential cosmic pimp. The guy banged Gamora, the most dangerous woman in the universe, while repeatedly telling her, "You know I can't ever love you." He's just done some ballsy shit that I think is great. He decided he needed an heir. Does he court some bitch? Nope. He kidnaps Sif from thor and tries to rape her. Courting is not logical when all you want is a seed. Even the infinity gems recognize that he's the only fit wielder for the gauntlet. When universal omnipotence itself chooses you, you're know you're on another level. How can you not like a guy who repeatedly saves the universe, and then steals the Silver Surfer's surfboard and leave him stranded on a curb until he agrees to be friends?

[kane_warhead]

And the guy that went to hell and beat the devil. Even the Surfer couldn't do that.

Kane: What Warlock centric stories have you read? He's easily my favorite character because he walks the line of good and evil rules with logic. He does what needs to be done without hesitation. He's the quintessential cosmic pimp. The guy banged Gamora, the most dangerous woman in the universe, while repeatedly telling her, "You know I can't ever love you." He's just done some ballsy shit that I think is great. He decided he needed an heir. Does he court some bitch? Nope. He kidnaps Sif from thor and tries to rape her. Courting is not logical when all you want is a seed. Even the infinity gems recognize that he's the only fit wielder for the gauntlet. When universal omnipotence itself chooses you, you're know you're on another level. How can you not like a guy who repeatedly saves the universe, and then steals the Silver Surfer's surfboard and leave him stranded on a curb until he agrees to be friends?

I don't like characters that is too powerful/strong. Which is why I don't like Superman. I read the Infinity Crusade(Yeah the one where he stole the surfer board). Infinity Gauntlet. Other than that, yeah I haven't read much.
I'm not saying the character is stupid... I recognize that it's a well written character based on the one where he was written by Jim Starlin. Based on what I read on the internet, that was Warlock's defining moment.

He is too perfect without flaws, but thats the point of his character isn't it. He is created to be the perfect human.

But I just don't like it. Hey it's my opinion. I'm not bashing Warlock or anything.

[Adam Warlock]

I don't like characters that is too powerful/strong. Which is why I don't like Superman. I read the Infinity Crusade(Yeah the one where he stole the surfer board). Infinity Gauntlet. Other than that, yeah I haven't read much.
I'm not saying the character is stupid... I recognize that it's a well written character based on the one where he was written by Jim Starlin. Based on what I read on the internet, that was Warlock's defining moment.

He is too perfect without flaws, but thats the point of his character isn't it. He is created to be the perfect human.

But I just don't like it. Hey it's my opinion. I'm not bashing Warlock or anything.

I see your point, but I think it's because you haven't had much warlock stuff to read. Admittedly he was overpowered (initially he was one of the characters who could alter reality with thought), but that never really got explored and was eventually changed via depowering. He wasn't quite pre-crisis broken, but I admit destroying planets when you're angry is always broken no matter who does it (Silver Surfer and the like included). I think what I like so much is that he was created to be perfect, and given everything the perfect man could want which resulted in him being anything but human. All these other cosmic characters had various motivations and warlock simply wanted to fit in until he got fed up with trying. not many people write warlock well IMO. I guess that's why he's not usedd much.

[kane_warhead]

I see your point, but I think it's because you haven't had much warlock stuff to read. Admittedly he was overpowered (initially he was one of the characters who could alter reality with thought), but that never really got explored and was eventually changed via depowering. He wasn't quite pre-crisis broken, but I admit destroying planets when you're angry is always broken no matter who does it (Silver Surfer and the like included). I think what I like so much is that he was created to be perfect, and given everything the perfect man could want which resulted in him being anything but human. All these other cosmic characters had various motivations and warlock simply wanted to fit in until he got fed up with trying. not many people write warlock well IMO. I guess that's why he's not usedd much.

And that too.... No one could ever follow Jim Starlin's footstep on Warlock. He's like the Darkseid of Marvel.

Jack Kirby's Darkseid is a well written character. He is the ultimate evil. Perfect in all evil. And that's where it stops. He's so perfect that they can't create new stories for him.

So what did DC do? He became a bitch to Superman. I hate Superman with a passion...

Marvel did better... Rather than have Warlock be written in some stupid stories, they just didn't do anything with him at all.

[ToyRobotTerror]

So starlords crew:

Groot - Old Hulk villain
Deathcry - Where is she from? She isnt from the imperial guard, Starjammers?
Rocket Racoon - Awesomeness is where he is from
Bug - What happened to the microverse/micronauts?
Mantis - She looks more like an alien than she ever did, wasnt the last time mantis appeared in Avengers when they fought Kulan Gath (or whatever that magicians name who makes everything go medievil) ?
Captain Universe- ......

Edit: NM i forgot about wiki
Edit2: Cant find shit about bug

[Adam Warlock]

Edit2: Cant find shit about bug

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronauts_%28comic_book%29

[ToyRobotTerror]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronauts_%28comic_book%29


Yeah i saw that but he has done appearances after that

[nameingway]

Thanos' The End made Thanos a better character. It didn't do anything to Warlock.

sooooo, did you read thanos: the end? you know, after thanos absorbed everything... only to have warlock open a portal and chill with him. anyone else could have done that, right?

[kane_warhead]

sooooo, did you read thanos: the end? you know, after thanos absorbed everything... only to have warlock open a portal and chill with him. anyone else could have done that, right?

With the way it was written, yes anyone could have.

My point was the whole Thanos: The End, defined Thanos' character more. It made you understand how he tick, etc.

Warlock was the deus ex machina. It did nothing to Adam Warlock. It didn't move his character at all. His character is just is.

It's the same Warlock from the Infinity Gauntlet, nothing changed. Look at it thiss way, Marvel has still made Thanos into an interesting character(Look at Annihilation), while Warlock has gotten stale.

Don't confuse this a bias for Thanos. I don't like Thanos that much and never will. But I appreciate how interesting his character is still is.

If Marvel makes a new good comic about Adam Warlock, then we'll see.

[Wellman]

You can't really blame just Marvel for Adam Warlock not appearing, Starlin was cool with Marvel for a good minute and had the opportunity to tell good and new Warlock stories and never did.

I personally, liked that Warlock mini that Greg Pak did a couple of years back, it was good even though the real Adam only had little to do with the story at first. Warlock has matured more than any other Marvel character throughout the years of his existence, it isn't easy telling a story about a guy so far ahead of the game and who is a no nonsense individual. If he does ever comeback, he will probably either be revamped, be a villian or be paired up with a funny character in order to have the fool/wiseman dynamic.

[kane_warhead]

I think Starlin liked Thanos better than he did Warlock.

[Adam Warlock]

Warlock being m.i.a. during annihilation AND House of M just made no sense to me. Both of those things are things which any other time would have caused him to show up immediately. Even if it's just a line saying he's stuck jacking off in another dimension would have been cool. He's been filling Quasar's role for years and then nothing.

[kane_warhead]

^ Me too the whole freaking Infinity Watch were in Annihilation(except for Pip; I think) but no Warlock.

[Wellman]

Annihilation: Conquest is very good. Already within the latest two issues of Wraith and Nova, I see possible seeds for curing Phalanx possession. Which means that whoever is behind the Phalanx has to be something uber, all things considered.

As for Warlock, I am actually trying to figure out if he is still babysiting that cosmic thing that Starlin had him watching or if the cameo he had in She-Hulk counts any. In anycase, Warlock always has the excuse of hibernating that cacoon of his.

[Daidoji Kage]

Warlock being m.i.a. during annihilation AND House of M just made no sense to me. Both of those things are things which any other time would have caused him to show up immediately. Even if it's just a line saying he's stuck jacking off in another dimension would have been cool. He's been filling Quasar's role for years and then nothing.

Add Marvel Legends to the list of places that jerk Warlock hasn't shown up to yet... :bluu:

[Wellman]

Well, Drax is back.

[akumatrunigga]

I always was interested in the Annihilation story. I just didnt have the time to get it. I heard so many good reviews about this and I was so interested. What makes me mad is that I had the chance to get a few of the single issues of the Infinity Gauntlet at the Baltimore Comiccon 2 on sept 8-9. But i'll get annihilation when i can.