New Soul Calibur Scans IV [EGM?]

[Shade]

Deserves it's own thread. Game looks absolutely gorgeous. Ivy's boobs > Me. I want fucking now.

Scans can be found here - http://www.onthexbox.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8898


When I get better quality, I'll upload'em.

[Rhio2k]

Anyone ever notice how since Soul Calibur, Taki was given udders instead of breasts?

[Xero Kaiser]

Nice. I like Nightmare and Siegfreid's new look

[Darkshine]

Tira's new costume disappoints me. I much preferred her standard costume in SC3. Still, it's not nearly as horrendous as Voldo's SC3 otfit. >_>

[AlphaDragoon02]

Grr, no Kilik. They have to rectify the garbage that is his SC3 outift.

Ivy looks like ass. Taki would look awesome (she's all "pretty" now)...EXCEPT for those ridiculous tits and body paint they call an outfit to cover them.

Tira however, got a marked improvement, at least physically. Long brown hair in pigtails and non-Harajuku lipstick color > horribly bleached green deal.

Oh yeah, from what I can see of him Siegfried still looks like an ethereal, "Holy Knight" badass motherfucker. And good on Namco for FINALLY admitting that Sophie and X are hacked. Too bad for their fans they're pretty much guaranteed to be nerfed as a result of this. :rofl:

[Master Chibi]

Honestly, I'm not impressed.

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[Son Them All]

Ivy's titties are just outrageously gigantic. I love it. Tira's new character design is a big improvement over the short hair, little emo girl shtick.

Where's my character creator??

[Darkshine]

Tira however, got a marked improvement, at least physically. Long brown hair in pigtails and non-Harajuku lipstick color > horribly bleached green deal.

LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! SC3 Tira > All.

[AlphaDragoon02]

Ivy's titties are just outrageously gigantic. I love it. Tira's new character design is a big improvement over the short hair, little emo girl shtick.

Where's my character creator??

Tira's new look is ownage. Ditch the purple lipstick and the sadistic overtones and I'd date a girl who looked like that.

And character creator's back man, they said they're greatly enhancing it with stuff such as individual voices (and pitch change), for example.

[Sonic_Reaper]

Are Ivy's breasts GLUED onto that string of rope or what? They should plopping out all over the place.

[Ephidel]

Nightmare looks a lot better than it did in 3.

[ChairHome]

I thank you for the scans, but I think its illegal/not allowed to put up a link to scans of this. I'm not snitching, just warning.

[Aion]

Taki sets my heart on fire :]

I don't know whether to blame the scans, or the crappy resolutioned pics in that mag; but I see jaggies. I do trust that Namco will do a splendid job with graphics though, so no worries there.

What I'm worried about is this new combat system, I hope it's not something creative but unconventional; but rather something creative that can actually fit well when it comes to hardcore play. In other words, I hope they haven't 'casualised' this game any further--you're playing with your loyal fans' hearts here Namco :(

[ParryAll]

This looks damn good.

Compare the screen shots of IV to those of Legends. WOW.

Ivy's tits got bigger. Good stuff.

[UltraDavid]

Haha man, Ivy looks ridiculous! Her body does not go with her face at all, not to mention she looks... kinda fat. I also agree about Taki, heh, they really do look like udders.

Nightmare looks badass, though.

[Tigerboi]

Graphically, it already looks better than T6 imo. :lol:

Tira's hawt.


Isn't this game supposed to have a GG style instant death concept?

[axeman61]

I'm not liking the part about clothes of the created characters affecting gameplay. Just make them cooler, with more effects.

[Nairdas]

Oh yeah, from what I can see of him Siegfried still looks like an ethereal, "Holy Knight" badass motherfucker. And good on Namco for FINALLY admitting that Sophie and X are hacked. Too bad for their fans they're pretty much guaranteed to be nerfed as a result of this. :rofl: :sad:

They bet not tone Xianghua down too much. She's gotta stay top tier atleast.

[AlphaDragoon02]

I'm not liking the part about clothes of the created characters affecting gameplay. Just make them cooler, with more effects.

Maybe this means that if you're wearing like a full suit of armor, you wouldn't move as fast as say, a person wearing slacks and a tunic? That seems kinda logical to me, as most times people wearing heavy armor and the like are carrying heavy weapons and would fall into the "Siegfried-type".

EDIT: And sorry man, but I'm all for them nerfing Xianghua to BOTTOM FUCKING TIER. Like some Talim shit (which, damn Namco for effing up Talim's appearance/moveset in SC3). She's been too strong for FAR too long.

They can make Kilik and Siegfried top tier instead. :tup:

[Mizuki]

Nightmare has the fucking all-spark! Oh shi-!

[Dios <-X->]

I like ivy. i like ivys tits. i like ivy.

[Darkshine]

Maybe this means that if you're wearing like a full suit of armor, you wouldn't move as fast as say, a person wearing slacks and a tunic? That seems kinda logical to me, as most times people wearing heavy armor and the like are carrying heavy weapons and would fall into the "Siegfried-type".

EDIT: And sorry man, but I'm all for them nerfing Xianghua to BOTTOM FUCKING TIER. Like some Talim shit (which, damn Namco for effing up Talim's appearance/moveset in SC3). She's been too strong for FAR too long.

They can make Kilik and Siegfried top tier instead. :tup:

Nah! We need some top-tier Voldo action! :P

[Eduardo24]

I am afraid I am no longer SC target demographic. There is just too much teen fanservice here. Will buy anyway.

:(

[Zigmover21]

SC4: Better boob physics than ever before! Maybe Ivy's new-found chunkyness is due to pregnancy?>_>

The more I see and hear about this game, the less I care. But who am I kidding? I'm gonna buy it regardless. At least it's pretty.

[Saotome Kaneda]

How about we make a single SCIV thread and update THAT when new info pours in?

[Shade]

Ivy looks like ass.

You have an issue with full figured woman, Alpha? I'm noticing a pattern. :P

I thank you for the scans, but I think its illegal/not allowed to put up a link to scans of this. I'm not snitching, just warning.

Haha. If someone has a problem with that, then they can say something. Thing is, it's so easy to legally attain a free years worth of EGM mags, it's not even an issue. Hurting no one's pockets, showing a few scans of magazine.

Graphically, it already looks better than T6 imo. :lol:


Yea, T6 looks like ass compared to this.

I like ivy. i like ivys tits. i like ivy.

Agreed. Thought I was the only one.

[AlphaDragoon02]

You have an issue with full figured woman, Alpha? I'm noticing a pattern. :P

No, Ivy just looks funny. And has since SC2.

Oh yeah, and ridiculous outfits too, not a fan of those.


And on the subject of whether or not I like full-figured women: Erica Campbell is fucking hot. I'd say she qualifies.

[pherai]

I've found two reasons to pick this up, and they are Ivy's left and right breast.

Seriously though, SC games have mostly been pretty fun so I'll pick this up, and if there becomes a scene for it, even better. Nightmare looks beastly.

[Ephidel]

Nightmare or Siegfried better be tops, the story is constantly centered around them for that not to happen.

[AlphaDragoon02]

^

Siegfried looks too fucking awesome NOT to be good. But of course, this is Namco and they'll eff him up in all likelihood, nerfing X and Sophie but forgetting about Cassie leaving her to rise to the top of brokenness.

[Ryo Yamazaki]

T6 looks like "ass" compared to SC4? :lol: No, it doesn't.

Also, no arcade version of sc4 first? :lol: Okay then. They won't get it right first time, because they NEVER have.

I do like the lighting on this game. I'm interested in this whole new 'other' way to beat opponents.

Ivy still looks sexy in game but not in her cg art. Taki now looks like she has big fake, silicone pornstar tits.

Tira, Seig and NM look better than in SC3.

[AlphaDragoon02]

See, I don't like some of the lighting. That same shit they're pulling in T6, aka the "ZOMG next-gen bloom light OVABOARDDDD" needs to be toned down. It always does the same thing, makes the characters look like shiny plastic and oversaturates the environment.

That fucking Heavenly Sword game and a number of the PS3/360's titles do this and it annoys the hell outta me.

EDIT: And yeah, Tira looks cool now. Her outfit's still kinda lame but at least the entire character isn't a wash anymore. I wish they'd tone down Taki's ridiculous looking "breasts", we get it Namco, you made your point. Taki's pretty now.

[arstal]

Maybe they'll dump Cassie. They shouldn't expand the roster much- they should add a few and dump a few. Hoping they make revision patches- I don't trust Namco to make a tight game at Rev.A

[AlphaDragoon02]

Hoping they make revision patches- I don't trust Namco to make a tight game at Rev.A

Me too. They've already proven they can't be trusted to "get it right the first time".

As for Cassie, people would probably have a bitch fit and die if they axed her...so I'm thinking she'll stay. I just want them to de-suckify Talim, she was awesome in SC2.

[Saotome Kaneda]

Fuck Talim. Fix Yunsung.

[Tigerboi]

Why are we already talking about tiers?

[Ryo Yamazaki]

Fix Raphael.

[Gaijinblaze]

Fix Soul Calibur.

I'm not joking. A biwion dollars says this game will be shit. Unless you're buying it for some hideous-looking Ivy. Then you'll be pleased. I was done with SC since 1999 and I won't be going there again.

Feel free to go back to being excited.

[Tigerboi]

No, Ivy just looks funny. And has since SC2.

Oh yeah, and ridiculous outfits too, not a fan of those.


And on the subject of whether or not I like full-figured women: Erica Campbell is fucking hot. I'd say she qualifies.


Ivy is the kind of thick that most black men like me would appreciate.

Fix Soul Calibur.

I'm not joking. A biwion dollars says this game will be shit. Unless you're buying it for some hideous-looking Ivy. Then you'll be pleased. I was done with SC since 1999 and I won't be going there again.

Feel free to go back to being excited.

did you have some kind of freak, traumatizing soul calibur accident?

[Gaijinblaze]

Yeah, I paid money for 2 and 3.

Oh shit, it's online too? Can anything make this series beastlier?

[Sonic_Reaper]

Remake of Soul Blade/Soul Edge FTW!

[AlphaDragoon02]

Yeah, I paid money for 2 and 3.

I don't really agree, but this made me :rofl:.

[Tigerboi]

Yeah, I paid money for 2 and 3.



That's not an accident. that's just sad.

[JackTenrac!]

Ivy. Best costume yet. :D
Nightmare: now I scared.
Lizardman: he'd better come back!
Taki: http://i13.tinypic.com/677gisy.jpg << look at this and tell me otherwise. That ass. Woah.

[Shade]

- No complaints about anyone's bust size. Seriously.

- Tekken 6 looks "decent" graphically. SC4 looks 10 times better though, IMO.

- Soul Calibur is an ILL series, which caters to it's fans. Online, customization options up the ying yang. Great gameplay? What the fuck can you askf or, more?

Anyway, DO WANT.

[RockCho]

Are Ivy's breasts GLUED onto that string of rope or what? They should plopping out all over the place.

Costume malfunctions should TOTALLY be a new feature in SC4.
That would be great.:cool:

[Gasp]

ivys bustlooks a bit big but she seems nice and thick :D
they need a better top for that outfit as im liking the legs and arm pieces but not that top piece.
nightmare just gets better and better.
for a second there i was thinking that tira was taki with tiras weapon and i was like wtf, tira looks too much like taki.
taki looks alright i like demon masks on her.

[dn0s]

By Soul Calibur V Taki and Ivy will be able to float to the moon with those baloons. But Tira looks cool so I will buy

[Son Them All]

I'm sad that it seems like Predator Nightmare won't come back (as it's mutated beyond what it used to look like I guess), but it's good to see that create a soul has been expanded so much. I just hope the FLESH OUT STYLES MORE. You know, side throws, full move lists. Even if they merely combined the normal roster's moves I want more options.

[gridman]

"With this series, its often just as much fun to play with yourself"

[Rioting Soul]

I think that Soul Calibur will always be made to look more visually pleasing than Tekken. That seems to be Namco's perogative.

Here's hoping Raphael only sucks blood in this game.

[Azrael]

When we created the characters for the home version of SC3, we worried most about whether the character was fun to play, so we decided its OK for all characters to be stronger. Since its a home game and not the arcade, you don't lose money every time you play...
....Oh fuck.

If this is their mentality going into SC4...well...pretty as it may be, nobody's going to be playing it.

[Baines]

SC4 Ivy makes DOA1 breasts look realistic.

[Shade]

SC4 Ivy makes DOA1 breasts look realistic.

Bullshit. Her tits are obviously being affected by gravity, something the DOA plastic bitches seem to not be affected by.

You guys are so used to HENTAI BOOBZ, you clearly have no idea how real tits look.

[woof]

lol i think she looks fine


you people are funny

[ToyRobotTerror]

wapanese are intimidated by boobs and ass

[Nairdas]

Ivy is nice and thick, but one swift hit to those funbags should have them poppin right outta that outfit.

I'm really anxious to see Xianghua. I hope she is sexxed up a bit too.

[Superking]

You can really tell the true demographic Namco is aiming for with the majority of the responses in this thread.

I'll just stick with MG2 and TK6 kthxbye.

[Ephidel]

Fuck Talim. Fix Yunsung.

Amen.

It's him or Siegfried. I can't put too much faith in Namco to succeed in that though...

[Gimpy]

GOD DAMN THOSE TITIES LOOK NICE!!!!:wow::wow:

[Master Chibi]

Bullshit. Her tits are obviously being affected by gravity, something the DOA plastic bitches seem to not be affected by.

You guys are so used to HENTAI BOOBZ, you clearly have no idea how real tits look.

Bro, noone wants real tits in a fucking fighting game.

Those tits Ivy's got are big, but they should have some stretch mark shit on them, or her aerolas should be the size of her fucking face or some shit. Same with Taki, that's not sexy or hot at all, and I (again, this is ME we're talking about here, repeat that to yourself a few times) think it's sad that they're pushing that shit even further. I think the Japanese are looking foward to having them both fuck each other's nipples in some dick girl shit more then they would be about actually playing the game.

That being said, all I care about is Lynette. If that bitch is in the game, I'm buying it.

[AlphaDragoon02]

You can really tell the true demographic Namco is aiming for with the majority of the responses in this thread.

And THAT's what pisses me off about the DOA series. Even when they actually do make a pretty decent fighter in DOA4, you still get like what 90% of people have been posting about...how great Ivy's "bubz" are. But on the other hand, I'm not any of these's people's keeper and it's not up to me to say what they can or cannot like, so to each their own. :china:


Anyway, fix Talim, Yunsung AND Raph. And nerf Xianghua and Sophie. You writing this down, Namco? Also, if you insist on "guest characters" (which is hinted at in that scan) don't put in any goofy shit. If you HAVE to put in a guest character or two...Luke and Guy from Tales of the Abyss kthx.

[Makoto Scrub]

You are forgetting one important thing.

Make it so that the SC community doesnt go divided again because of some lame haxx. When VC was discovered in the first week people stopped playing with the quickness.

And that being said; Asura Dance >>> everything else.

[Sonic_Reaper]

....Oh fuck.

If this is their mentality going into SC4...well...pretty as it may be, nobody's going to be playing it.

I know right. It didn't even seem they answered the question. "Why did yous make the game broken for console?", "We made the character MORE FUN!!!!111!!11". What does that have to do with anything? A game is only fun when it's got terrible character tiers?

[Nairdas]

And THAT's what pisses me off about the DOA series. Even when they actually do make a pretty decent fighter in DOA4, you still get like what 90% of people have been posting about...how great Ivy's "bubz" are. But on the other hand, I'm not any of these's people's keeper and it's not up to me to say what they can or cannot like, so to each their own. :china:


Anyway, fix Talim, Yunsung AND Raph. And nerf Xianghua and Sophie. You writing this down, Namco? Also, if you insist on "guest characters" (which is hinted at in that scan) don't put in any goofy shit. If you HAVE to put in a guest character or two...Luke and Guy from Tales of the Abyss kthx.If I was namco I wouldn't listen to you. nerfing xianghua would only get them murdered.

[ParryAll]

Haha man, Ivy looks ridiculous! Her body does not go with her face at all, not to mention she looks... kinda fat. .

Oh yeah, she's got some meat on her bones. I think it's great, though, because it actually looks realistic. Realistic in a sense that she ain't a super skinny girl with gigantic tits (think DOA girls).

Ivy's all real, all natural and she ain't ashamed of those 15-20 extra vanity pounds.

[Makoto Scrub]

If I was namco I wouldn't listen to you. nerfing xianghua would only get them murdered.
How so?

But it seems every game X is top teir so I dont think that trend is gonna change.

[XianghuaALPHA]

- Soul Calibur is an ILL series, which caters to it's fans. Online, customization options up the ying yang. Great gameplay? What the fuck can you askf or, more?

Anyway, DO WANT.

FANS? FANS?!@#

Maybe fanboys... But the hardcore fans get ignored CONSTANTLY...

...unless they are JP, or named FUG [who is jp lol]


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Soul Edge/ Blade?!@

Soul Calibur was AWESOME. It had it's flaws, but if you didn't have tekken poke heavy mindset people around to spoil it, it was awesome, and one of the most fun fighting games ever.

Soul Calibur 2 - got over ran with Tekken players because namco screwed up t4, and was like "Woops, here kiddies, play with SC for a bit till we fix this..." It was still fun.

SC3 - was broke, because no attention was paid to the serious stuff, just the 'fun stuff' fan boys buy it for.

SC4 - if worked on more by the tekken development team, will probably ALSO suck balls, but at least I can play it online and beat scrubs like I'm sure most of you are :)

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X and Sophie - got toned down in the ARCADE RELEASE OF sc3 - so why worry that much about the 4th version?

And X over powered for too long? That's because the real power of the game were hidden away / you didn't know about because it took a bit more skill, or the people that knew didn't talk about it lool. X is not the Jin of the game, just the easiest to see it from. You want power, several other ladies have had that just as long... But meh. SC4 will probably suck, and I'll have to hate Namco forever :)

As for the scans being illegal... Well at least we HAVE THEM. Stupid articles said 'july release of EGM' - well the JULY ISSUE IS OUT, and has nothing. It's the AUGUST issue that has these, and annoys me by not being out yet -_-;;



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[AzurePhoenix]

I like Ivy and Taki. :pleased:

I like Ivy and Taki's bubz. :pleased:

I Love Tira's old look. Her new design looks so stupid to me. :arazz:

[Sonic_Reaper]

Soul Edge/ Blade?!@

I'm guessing you haven't played it? Found it to be a lot more fun than any of the three sequels that came after it.

[vapulus]

...I think the Japanese are looking foward to having them both fuck each other's nipples in some dick girl shit...

Sums it up nicely.

I really wish the Japanese weren't pushing so girlie-centric and titfest lately. It feels like everything has to be sex'd up or the japanese consumer won't purchase it. Whatever happened to people looking like they were actually ready to fight? =)

I, for one, demand less cheesecake in fighting games. Some cheesecake is fine, but I find it just limits my character choices more and more. I don't want to play as a little girl (unless as a joke) and boobs the size of fish-bowls are definitely not erotic. If I wanted eroticism, I'd import that japanese DS game where you touch girls to find out they're witches, or whatever the hell that game is about. I want interesting character designs and characters I'd be proud to play as.

[Hyperhal]

Also, if you insist on "guest characters" (which is hinted at in that scan) don't put in any goofy shit. If you HAVE to put in a guest character or two...Luke and Guy from Tales of the Abyss kthx.

I'd rather see Cless from Tales of Phantasia(The one tales game that got remade 4 times and counting) in the game if anything.

Also, fix my knightmare back into his SCII counterpart. SCIII Knight/Seig was the worst form of torture ever.

Anyways, when does Cervantes take on the parenting role and tell Ivy to wear some fucking clothes?

[Autocrat1]

I can't wait to shake Ivy continuously in her profile.

BIO-YO-YO-YO-YO-YO-YO-YO-YOING

[DarkNecrid]

You guys are missing the key picture.

Second to last pic.

Upper right.

Ignore Ivy's breasts.

To the left of that and above.

Seigfried....with a fucking duck...

[Gimpy]

You guys are missing the key picture.

Second to last pic.

Upper right.

Ignore Ivy's breasts.

To the left of that and above.

Seigfried....with a fucking duck...


You sure that's a duck??? That looks like a dodo(sp?).

[DevilJin 01]

Looks like the game that could get me back into SC. It'll probably be broke again but oh well.

LOL @ kids arguing about game boobs. Still haven't grown up.

[Shade]

You can really tell the true demographic Namco is aiming for with the majority of the responses in this thread.

I'll just stick with MG2 and TK6 kthxbye.

The fact that everyone keeps focusing on her rack, is depressing. Who cares about her humongous melons. Let's talk about how fucking excellent the game looks from a graphical standpoint. Also, what was discussed in the article sounds like fuck-win.

[Tigerboi]

This game will undeniably have the largest online community of any fighting game so far IMO.

[Nairdas]

How so?

But it seems every game X is top teir so I dont think that trend is gonna change.How you ask? I'm going to fly to namco's headquarters in japan and pull a Chris Benoit on all of them.

[DietSoap]

The fact that everyone keeps focusing on her rack, is depressing. I understand (and agree) with what you're saying, but you gotta also see the magazine emphasized it quite clearly. I gotta agree with the thought that this 10x better looking than T6 (T6 is still destined to be my main 3D fighter, though). SC has ALWAYS looked better than the Tekken that comes out around it's time. Case in point, SCII looks better than T5.

... I love beefier Ivy. :lovin:

[Dios <-X->]

lol 2 ppl saying ivy needs more clothes, like with the DOA fighters, imo, its a sort of female strategy of sorts, could you really focus on kicking ivys ass if he g string ass was right in front of your face and she had you in a grab or was staring you down and her massive fucking jugs of beauty were in front of your face, ready to slip at any moment?

Its a distraction, and a dirty tactic, but it could be the one you need to win a fight, you never know. it helps.

[ParryAll]

You guys are overlooking that the main draw of this game, excuse me the only draw, is Ivy's monsterous, juicy mellons. They don't look gravity defying, in fact, they actually droop a lil bit.

I never liked Soul Calibur, but I will say that as a casual fighting game, it's at least better than DOA. With online play in the equation, and online updates/tweak downloads a reality, I feel this game has real potential.

Graphically I'm shocked at how good it looks in light of Tekken 6.

[kev_the_bev]

yeah, this game looks way better than tekken 6 graphically.

[ParryAll]

Next time I have sex with my girl I'm gonna fantasize about Ivy and be all like "take that Ivy you big titted whore lemme suck on those giant tits you grey hair bitch oh oh you know you like that oh suck on my sword you medieval cunt".

Oh yeah.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

Definetly going to pick up the mags to read the whole article and have a batter look at the shots. But from the scans, they definetly look better then what T6 looks like right now, which doesn't surprise me since SC has always looked better then a comparable Tekken(SB>T2, SC>T3/TTTac, SC2>T4, SC3>T5). Anyways, Taki is my main and I'm liking the look so far.

[Shinryuuken_SA2]

Bigger breasts = Bigger hitboxes. It's all about the gameplay.

[Tigerboi]

This thread is a marvel example of human evolution.

Does anybody have this magazine?

[Sonic_Reaper]

How much longer till we get a female fighter that fights exclusively with her giant breasts?

[GeoG2]

Ivy's tits were a great way to show off the graphical prowess of next gen platforms.

[kof4life]

This game is looking good....Then again,so did SC3. I just hope Siegfried is improved and that they keep his music from SC3. I'm still wondering what kind of new figting styles we might see in this game. Tira and Zasalamel were pretty creativein terms of fighting style. Any ideas?

[AlphaDragoon02]

Well, Tira and Zas were off the SC "norm" because they weren't created by Project Soul. The guys who do Tekken actually made them, in return Project Soul made characters for Tekken 6 (Leo and Zafina).

[Rik]

The graphics are decent I would say, i was expecting them to at leat rival the GG art but oh well. I never really cared for the series from a competitve view point, but then again the game has always been intended for a more casual crowd anyways. I bet EGM, IGN and all the other major gamng media outlets will probably start buidling the game as "best fighter ever"....its a shame so many mainstream reviewers r often times so ignorant.

[Tigerboi]

I wonder if every character will return. Like, all of them. Meaning edgemaster, Charade and Olcadan. (skin swaps)

I honestly can't think of any characters that just need to go....

The graphics are decent I would say, i was expecting them to at leat rival the GG art but oh well. I never really cared for the series from a competitve view point, but then again the game has always been intended for a more casual crowd anyways. I bet EGM, IGN and all the other major gamng media outlets will probably start buidling the game as "best fighter ever"....its a shame so many mainstream reviewers r often times so ignorant.

That was retarded.

[Ephidel]

It's nothing new about the graphics and whatnot that makes SC into what it is, it's the gameplay that makes it into what it isn't. I always expect Namco to deliver perfect backgrounds, quality music, and character development - it's really not new to me. I want better moves and more modes, if any...

[Rik]

So then SC2 and SC3 where like these perfeclty balanced, technical fighters then? When certain characters are made just because they play"fun" you know somethings wrong. Trying bringing up some points next time instead of flaming k buddy.

[Shade]

So then SC2 and SC3 where like these perfeclty balanced, technical fighters then? When certain characters are made just because they play"fun" you know somethings wrong. Trying bringing up some points next time instead of flaming k buddy.

Dude, I dont know where all this internet nerd rage hate is coming from, but Soul Calibur is a damn fine series. The gameplay has always been tight. Great selection of fighters with varying fighting styles, and weaponry. Extras up the ying yang.

I mean, what the hell are we comparing this too? Dead of Alive? Tekken? Oh, wait. SHORYUKEN. You guys are hyped as fuck everytime a new Street Fighter 2 port is announced.

And this post applies to anyone who attempted to shit on this series. Y'all just upset because Ivy and her tata's aint real.

[Rik]

Actually i was one of the few people who wasnt that excited over SF2HD, and compared to the Tekken and VF series this series falls short consideraby. Not to say that i hate the franchise cause I dont really mind the SC series to be perfectly honest. Im a fan of some of the character designs and I do own the two previous entries. What really bothers me though is the amount of exposure and acclaim this series gets which i think is incredibly unjustified especially considering the fact that there r reviewers proclaiming SC2 as "the best fighting game ever" in spite of the fact that the character balance is horrid and the game features a gamebreaking element which makes it unplayable at high level play.

Ths series is misleading to the casual crowd because they assume that due to the amount of hype this series gets it has to be the best the genre has to offer when in fact its not and all it does is serve as a distraction for people to overlook the real gems of the genre.

[Shade]

I have some pretty upsetting news for you, sir. Not everyone judges their fighting games based on if it can be played at a "higher level". Tourney tard syndrome is fucking destroying the fighting game scenes. Games used to be about having fun. Now its all about all this technical shit, that really, 80% of people dont give a shit about.

[Henaki]

I have some pretty upsetting news for you, sir. Not everyone judges a game based on if it can be played at a "higher level". Tourney tard syndrome is fucking destroying the fighting game scenes. Games used to be about having fun. Now its all about all this technical shit, that really, 80% of people dont give a shit about.

You're right but we often do if we want to play the game for more than an hour. If a game is boring at high level, it's not worth improving in and then theres a lot less fun to be had in the long run.

Needless to say, Soul Calibur 2 and 3 were total shit once you got past mid level play and discovered a few things or a startling realization that they punish anyone playing on the offensive. It's a fun game to bust out and play with random people but it's goddamned terrible if you enjoy learning the game.

[Shade]

You're right but we often do if we want to play the game for more than an hour. If a game is boring at high level, it's not worth improving in and then theres a lot less fun to be had in the long run.

Needless to say, Soul Calibur 2 and 3 were total shit once you got past mid level play and discovered a few things or a startling realization that they punish anyone playing on the offensive. It's a fun game to bust out and play with random people but it's goddamned terrible if you enjoy learning the game.

I'll be the first to say or admit, I dont play too many games of ANY genre for too long. All games bore me after a period of time. Seriously, I put down MvsC2 years ago.

[whattevaman]

Im just happy that they are even still taking the time and money to make new fighters. Compared to when I got into them, they definitely seem to be going the way of the dodo. I love my 360 but i'll be goddamn if I play all 200 of these first person shooters they're trying to cram down my throat.

[Tigerboi]

So then SC2 and SC3 where like these perfeclty balanced, technical fighters then? When certain characters are made just because they play"fun" you know somethings wrong. Trying bringing up some points next time instead of flaming k buddy.



You're calling someone ignorant for thier opinion. I don't care what you think of the games, you used the word "ignorant" when discribing a review. That's retarded. These are people that play these games and construct opinion as they see fit. There's no such thing as ignorance in a matter such as this.

Ugh, and people whining about balance annoys me. MvC2 is possibly the most unblanced fighting game ever made and it also is possibly the most played. Fuck balance. None of my favorite fighting games ARE balanced.

And wasn't Sc2 played at high level? That means it had to have SOME technical side to it considering that some players (mick) consistantly outdo others. Sc2 HAD A SCENE. (I actually don't know if SC is still played at MLG. I hate MLG so I don't follow it.) A pretty big one. Hell, SC3 had one until people realized how broken it was.

I understand we're you're coming from honestly. I feel that way about DOA. But there some people who find it worth playing at high level, so they're obviously seeing something that I'm not.

There are some people who like and dislike every game ever made. Due to this, it's completely illogical to call someone ignorant for having a preference. And when something is illogical....it's fucking retarded. Do you need any further explination?

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

You're calling someone ignorant for thier opinion. I don't care what you think of the games, you used the word "ignorant" when discribing a review. That's retarded. These are people that play these games and construct opinion as they see fit. There's no such thing as ignorance in a matter such as this.

Ugh, and people whining about balance annoys me. MvC2 is possibly the most unblanced fighting game ever made and it also is possibly the most played. Fuck balance. None of my favorite fighting games ARE balanced.

And wasn't Sc2 played at high level? That means it had to have SOME technical side to it considering that some players (mick) consistantly outdo others. Sc2 HAD A SCENE. (I actually don't know if SC is still played at MLG. I hate MLG so I don't follow it.) A pretty big one. Hell, SC3 had one until people realized how broken it was.

I understand we're you're coming from honestly. I feel that way about DOA. But there some people who find it worth playing at high level, so they're obviously seeing something that I'm not.

There are some people who like and dislike every game ever made. Due to this, it's completely illogical to call someone ignorant for having a preference. And when something is illogical....it's fucking retarded. Do you need any further explination?

Couldn't agree more. MvC2 is a perfect example of a game that is not necessarily deep/technical or anywhere near balanced(feel free to debate, 'cause I know someone will), but it's still played a LOT and has to be one of the most successful. fighters in the competitive scene. I do think that there are games that are heavily affected by their balance, and may simply kill the scene if it ends up not being playable(case point: SC3). I don't need T6 or SC4 to be balanced, just playable.

Even with that said, I do think from what we were shown so far, that this might end up being another SC3 because they seem to be focusing on the wrong things, again.

[Rhio2k]

One thing I hate about any videogame company lately: when they are a japanese-based company, and they release a game HERE before it comes out in japan, that game will usually have features, gameplay/physics tweaks, even CHARACTERS in the japanese version that the us version doesn't have. Raizing did it twice with Bloody Roar: Primal Fury and Bloody Roar 4. Namco PROBABLY did it with SC3 (I didn't trust that shit, so I didn't buy it. With the american version available first, nobody bought the japanese version to confirm anything added...but I'm sure there were at LEAST some tweaks, more than likely the glicth resolutions from the arcade version). When companies do this, there is a MUCH better reason than "they must love us more". If SC4 comes out here first, don't trust that shit...

[GlennFinito]

Rhio2k

That also happened with doa3 (yeah yeah. Sucks anyway etc. At least the euro/jap were semi-playable)

[Rhio2k]

That's just some fucked-up shit. You should NEVER use a regional release as a means of play-testing. Do that shit IN-HOUSE before releasing the damn game.

[Mashf3st]

No Mina no peace@!

[Shadowcuz]

I want to play this game because of Ivy

I want Seung Mina too

[Tigerboi]

That's just some fucked-up shit. You should NEVER use a regional release as a means of play-testing. Do that shit IN-HOUSE before releasing the damn game.

Soul Calibur 3 had no excuse to suck. Given the amount of attempted upgrades it should've been better than Sc2 in every way possible. However, the developement was a collection of bad ideas, choppy play testing and poor timing.

I think they can do it right. Sc3 wasn't a bad idea, just a poorly executed one. If they can execute it right, I think we'll have what could be the best game in the series so far.

[Rik]

From what I can understand the series did get it right with the original SC1 on the DC. Although I never got the chance to play it, was it really that much better then its 2&3?

[Tigerboi]

2 was fucking awesome and made me actually not want to go back to 1. I don't understand why it's being put inot the same pile as 3 all of a sudden.

[dn0s]

Think people remembering how overpowered step was in SC2, and how step~guard made the game very conservative, but I don't think SC2 was in the same POS pile as SC3. SC3 on console was what it was, a fighter for casual gamers. I'm still PO'd about Chronicles of the Sword corrupting my whole SC2 file :(

[Ephidel]

2 wouldn't be half of what it is without weapons master. 3 offers an entire set of mini games and role play, unfortunately, nobody cared about it all.

[Tigerboi]

2 wouldn't be half of what it is without weapons master.

Highly debatable. Out of the year and a half I played the game, I spent like a week on it.

[Skyler]

You're calling someone ignorant for thier opinion. I don't care what you think of the games, you used the word "ignorant" when discribing a review. That's retarded. These are people that play these games and construct opinion as they see fit. There's no such thing as ignorance in a matter such as this.

Ugh, and people whining about balance annoys me. MvC2 is possibly the most unblanced fighting game ever made and it also is possibly the most played. Fuck balance. None of my favorite fighting games ARE balanced.

And wasn't Sc2 played at high level? That means it had to have SOME technical side to it considering that some players (mick) consistantly outdo others. Sc2 HAD A SCENE. (I actually don't know if SC is still played at MLG. I hate MLG so I don't follow it.) A pretty big one. Hell, SC3 had one until people realized how broken it was.

I understand we're you're coming from honestly. I feel that way about DOA. But there some people who find it worth playing at high level, so they're obviously seeing something that I'm not.

There are some people who like and dislike every game ever made. Due to this, it's completely illogical to call someone ignorant for having a preference. And when something is illogical....it's fucking retarded. Do you need any further explination?


MVC2 still requires more skillz than SC, SC2, and SC3 anyday of the day, week and year. Even Tekken 5 DR and VF5 requires more skillz than the SC series too. The SC series will always be a button mashing game, live with it and stop sucking up to it.

[Tigerboi]

I take it that you get your ass whopped by scrubs alot.

Also, you missed my entire point....

.....it's as if you didn't read my post at all.

[Ephidel]

Highly debatable. Out of the year and a half I played the game, I spent like a week on it.

Varies upon skill, it's understandable. It took me longer especially in certain dungeons, however, 3 was altogether different because of leveling. COTS would put you against characters twice your level the first time you played. Normally it was just bosses and main characters, but as to WM in SC2 it was a matter of skill and judgement - in which I prefer anyway.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

2 was fucking awesome and made me actually not want to go back to 1. I don't understand why it's being put inot the same pile as 3 all of a sudden.

I agree with this. I remember SC2 being pretty amazing back in the day, and had a great scene. Why the hate all of a sudden?

[Ephidel]

I agree with this. I remember SC2 being pretty amazing back in the day, and had a great scene. Why the hate all of a sudden?

I don't think people hate 2 as much. However, the consumer is always looking for ways and problems to justify a point of emphasis on improvement and comparison. ;p

[ToyRobotTerror]

I think the soul calibur series are heaps of fun as a casual game you can pick up since there is some depth too. A game is nothing without a casual scene.

[kof4life]

I think the soul calibur series are heaps of fun as a casual game you can pick up since there is some depth too. A game is nothing without a casual scene.

Precisely! I mean, high-level play is fun and all, but nobody can dedicate to too many games! I'm working on getting to a good level at 3S and KOF XI, but every other game I play is just for fun. Hence, Soul Calibur is great for me.

[WasFemto]

The tits are more ridiculous than DOA's :rofl:

[Rik]

Well like i said before, my real issue with the series doesnt come from the game itself but just the mainstream coverage that usually is so positive. If the game is considered something that is enjoyable to play casually then thats okay im all for it since the point of a video game is to have fun. I just dont like these misleading reviews calling it "the best fighter ever" when clearly the game has limitations as to how far it can be played. If the game doesnt work at a high tourny level then obvisouly it isnt the "best" because of that very flaw...it might be more accurate to say"a good game to bring out with a couple of buddies, but certain flaws in the gameplay keep it from ever being anything but just a casual experience". This speaks volumes about the reviewers ignorance if he isnt able to determine this issue and reach the appropriate conclusion in his review.

[Tigerboi]

But you don't even know what you're talking about. Stop talking out of your ass and do a little research.


1. SoulCalibur has been played at high level for YEARS. The scene has seen a massive break due to the suck that is Sc3. SCII was played at evo a few years and has seen massive attention from the MLG scene. It even has top players. Mick, He resides in memphis and is arguebly the best player in the nation. He's SC's Jwong.

2. why do you CARE if other people call it best of all time? That's up to the person playing it.


So in conclusion:

SOUL CALIBUR CAN BE PLAYED AT HIGH LEVEL. INFACT, IT OFTEN IS.

EDIT:
And, seriosuly, why does a game need to be played at high level to be called the best ever? Hell, IIRC capcom fighting evolution can be played at high level. But seeing as most found that game boring as dried, grey dog shit I don't think that would come even CLOSE to being called one of the greatest fighters ever.

[Dios <-X->]

Why arent you talking about ivys tits more? dont get off topic here.