360 Virtua Fighter V Online? (Link)

[mepaphoros]

From Gamespot:

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0706/game070626b.shtml

"Here are some new images of Sega's Xbox 360 version of Virtua Fighter 5, the 360 version will have online play not found in the PS3 version.

Magic box is a Korean base site that gets their info from real sources. I've been coming here years now and a lot of times they have info on games before the big boys, and to my knowledge they're never been wrong on stuff like this yet.

They just have a habit of letting things slip before it's time. Like when they posted the pis of DOA4 a month before E3 2005"

[v1y]

looks like i have to get a 360 then.

[DS]

I'll believe it when I see it in action.

[vagabond07]

un-fucking-believeable. if this is true, am2 are a bunch of liars.

[Sorwah]

Most likely they are talking about some form of online connectivity. Match replay downloads or "downloadable content" for example.

I really doubt AM2 would implement an online infrastructure. I mean it would be cool if they did and help boost their sales but they don't seem to be on the online bandwagon. Even if they did, it wouldn't hurt the Japanese Arcade sales (since it's not coming out on 360 in Japan).

I'd wait for clarification on what exactly "online play" is in detail.

[shoo]

im happy with my ps3 version

i dont need online play

[Eduardo24]

*enters thread*

I.... I sense danger.....


*walks away*

[Rikidozan]

I sincerely doubt it will be playable online.... We'll see, after all those rumors about VF5 online play has been squashed to the ground before...

[PimpC]

i dunno about this, though in the gamespot preview when they were asking the devlopers about things in this game that aren't in the ps3 version they said "wait for e3" so in 2 weeks we'll know exactly what that means.

[Wellman]

Damn, that would be a huge slap in someone's face if it turns out to be true.

[plasmakill]

99% percent of whats on magic-box is fact. I've also been going there for years and they have never steered me wrong.

So yup, another slap in the face to Sony.

[Matt K.]

Other than it stating it on that page and then having a bunch of screen shots that do not back up the claim, where is the official word from SEGA?

[n8archer_XI]

That would be the last needed 3D fighting game to go online...

[coffeerox]

I don't understand why they're doing this to us. We bought the game and now they're basically saying fuck you Sony gamers. Why didn't they spend the extra time in development to put this feature in? It's like well, we can't do it for PS3 but we can do it for 360! WTF IS UP WITH THAT SHIT??? I've already posted a huge protest/boycott thread, here it is

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?p=1603012#post1603012

I want all PS3 owners to sell their copy upon the release of 360's VF5. We don't need a company that shaft's it's most loyal fanbase just because it's dev's support another. Namco is making all the right decisions by giving online to both consoles and not only that but it's multiplatform in the first place, so we all are getting it. Even if Tekken 6 is exclusive, we will probably get online for that too. The fact is, they are giving us what we want and Sega is not.

[DS]

LOL @ boycott.

Sega hasn't given out any official word on this. At this point, it's just speculation. Just take it with a grain of salt. Nothing is final in this day and age of gaming.

[Chachi]

vf5 online gameplay footage

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kXB1JCQ6BxE

awesome

[coffeerox]

vf5 online gameplay footage

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kXB1JCQ6BxE

awesome

LOL! look at all that PPK madness

[shoo]

vf5 online gameplay footage

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kXB1JCQ6BxE

awesome


he shouldve 2+PKG'd after that kd

[Sorwah]

I want all PS3 owners to sell their copy upon the release of 360's VF5.

Right, because selling your copies that you've already paid sega for will hurt sega's bank account. All it would do would increase Gamestop's account and lower the value of VF5. (if you sold it to GS that is.)

[PimpC]

LMAO at a boycott. So if the 360 version is online, and the PS3 one is not, you're going to sell the PS3 version you have. How does that hurt SEGA? Doesn't it hurt you more by no longer having a game I assume you like since you bought it? If this shit is officially online, I'd cop. If not, I probably wouldn't because I would have to play the computer all day....that's no fun.

[yimaxi]

VF will be the last fighting game I want to play online. There is no way it will feel the same as offline.

[shoo]

I seriously could careless for the online play,

but it does give vf5 more exposure.

i would much rather make a mini road trip to play with people face to face.

[coffeerox]

LMAO at a boycott. So if the 360 version is online, and the PS3 one is not, you're going to sell the PS3 version you have. How does that hurt SEGA? Doesn't it hurt you more by no longer having a game I assume you like since you bought it? If this shit is officially online, I'd cop. If not, I probably wouldn't because I would have to play the computer all day....that's no fun.

How does it hurt sega? It's the loyalty that they lost. They will never have another [I meant myself] VF customer ever again if they put online on the 360. It's the fact that I spent 60 dollars for a fighting game, with the comfort knowing that they will release Ver.C through a patch when the 360 comes, now they announce Online which for reasons untold (most possibly due to laziness) will not be in the PS3 version? They're alienating the entire PS VF fanbase and for what? What reason do they have for doing this to us?

With the state that fighting games are in right now, they need every customer they get. When the 360 version does come out with online, no doubt a lot of casual fighting game fans will sell their copy, regardless of what I say, that's just how it's going to be. Everyone's going to see what Sega did and a lot of their fanbase will just simply disappear.

I do like VF and that's why I bought the game. But I also like game balance and I've always dreamed of patch fixes over the network, so we don't have garbage like GGXX AC where they need to release game after game because they always have something new, or have some major issue to fix. Online feature is like, the one feature that I've always wanted, yet never got, and for Sega to consider giving it to the 360 when us PS3 owners were the ones that first bought and supported their game is ludicrous.

[ultra_nYo]

Online play for VF5 is nice but the real thing I want it for the 360 to support usb converters so I can use the sticks I already have instead of having to buy a vshg just to play the game on a stick.

[Sorwah]

How does it hurt sega? It's the loyalty that they lost. They will never have another [I meant myself] VF customer ever again if they put online on the 360. It's the fact that I spent 60 dollars for a fighting game, with the comfort knowing that they will release Ver.C through a patch when the 360 comes, now they announce Online which for reasons untold (most possibly due to laziness) will not be in the PS3 version? They're alienating the entire PS VF fanbase and for what? What reason do they have for doing this to us?

So selling off your PS3 copies is a way to tell sega they no longer have your loyalty? It would be more effective to just not buy another one of their products rather than selling something that they already received money from.

[KrsJin]

If VF5 goes online for the 360, I'm sure it came from pressure of Microsoft wanting some sort of online function. I'll echo the other comments when I say, VF truly would be the last fighter I would want to play online. But I guess that makes some of the weirdo online fans happy so I'm cool with it lol.

[!(•_•)!]

How does it hurt sega? It's the loyalty that they lost. They will never have another [I meant myself] VF customer ever again if they put online on the 360. It's the fact that I spent 60 dollars for a fighting game, with the comfort knowing that they will release Ver.C through a patch when the 360 comes, now they announce Online which for reasons untold (most possibly due to laziness) will not be in the PS3 version? They're alienating the entire PS VF fanbase and for what? What reason do they have for doing this to us?

With the state that fighting games are in right now, they need every customer they get. When the 360 version does come out with online, no doubt a lot of casual fighting game fans will sell their copy, regardless of what I say, that's just how it's going to be. Everyone's going to see what Sega did and a lot of their fanbase will just simply disappear.

I do like VF and that's why I bought the game. But I also like game balance and I've always dreamed of patch fixes over the network, so we don't have garbage like GGXX AC where they need to release game after game because they always have something new, or have some major issue to fix. Online feature is like, the one feature that I've always wanted, yet never got, and for Sega to consider giving it to the 360 when us PS3 owners were the ones that first bought and supported their game is ludicrous.

Um, you do realize that setting up online networks for a Sony console and the Xbox are completely different things, right?

Sony provides little to no infrastructure, the publisher (e.g. Sega) must create and maintain the online servers, which is in no way shape or form cheap to do. Whereas on the Xbox, Microsoft maintains all of the online infrastructure. They also provide much better developer tools to allow them to plug directly into Live very easily.

Adding online play to a 360 game compared to a PS3 version is not only drastically easier, but INCREDIBLY cheaper.

For a game like Virtua Fighter, the PS3's small market share and install base are not large enough to justify the large expenditure required to allow for online play.

All of that being said, I still have doubts that this will actually be online. AM2 has stated in the past the reason it doesn't do online play is they never want VF to drop below 60 fps, feeling it compromises the purity of play. As much as I would like to see it online, I just don't think it will happen.

[coffeerox]

Sony provides little to no infrastructure, the publisher (e.g. Sega) must create and maintain the online servers, which is in no way shape or form cheap to do. Whereas on the Xbox, Microsoft maintains all of the online infrastructure. They also provide much better developer tools to allow them to plug directly into Live very easily.

Starcraft + Warcraft = free. So that excuse is BS. They can create a completely P2P network that just has the PS3 side software connect to another PS3 client. All they would really need to develop are the software to run the stuff. PSN already provides the infastructure to patch up games (Motorstorm/Resistance, Sonic, Genji have all done it, regardless of if they originally had online or not) There's no reason they wouldn't be able to pull this off.

[f_man]

oh my friend who works at gamespot just said that by "online features" they mean downloading arcade players fighting styles and then playing them in singleplayer.

[KrsJin]

oh my friend who works at gamespot just said that by "online features" they mean downloading arcade players fighting styles and then playing them in singleplayer.

That's real tight lol. Switch that AI up from time to time. Maybe they'll do like what they did with EVO and try to mimic top players and make them available for download.

[Overworld]

I don't know why this news would upset anyone. Games often have extras when they have late ports to other consoles. I've never heard of people getting upset when later ports of the same game have more stuff. (Other than the general "I wish this version would have had that.")

[coffeerox]

I don't know why this news would upset anyone. Games often have extras when they have late ports to other consoles. I've never heard of people getting upset when later ports of the same game have more stuff. (Other than the general "I wish this version would have had that.")

Last generation, that would be true and I would agree with you. But this generation is different. We get add-ons and updates to our games which gives it the ability to match whatever version is lacking. Like the PS3 version of Oblivion (and 360 I believe) are getting add-ons for Shivering Isles. It's exansion is already out on PC. Before the PS3 release of Oblivion, the 360 got it's update to Oblivion for Knights of the Nine exansion. So you see, we don't have to miss out on all the features. It should be the same for everyone.

[ParryAll]

Wow two pages of a retarded fanboy ranting and no confirmed VF5 online.

This thread fails.

[coffeerox]

Wow two pages of a retarded fanboy ranting and no confirmed VF5 online.

This thread fails.

you fail you ****ot horse fucking ass radish. God damn I hate it when we get people who has neither something to contribute for or against the current argument. Theres no fucking point to be posting some useless shit like that. fucking moron.

[shoo]

watch the language

[coffeerox]

retarded post = retarded answer, I don't give a shit report all you want. I already had a super-dbz sized battle with SRK I don't give a shit if I had another one. Do you realize just him, and that comment, = multiplied by tens of thousands on a board such as teamxbox and the official PS boards? I see so much of that garbage I just can't help but blow up.

[caliagent#3]

Wow two pages of a retarded fanboy ranting and no confirmed VF5 online.

This thread fails.

ummm you won't get any confirmation before E3.........


Also it doesn't make sense to boycott VF5 by selling copies. You knew exactly what you were getting when buying the ps3 version and you knew that the 360 version was coming out later. If it really mattered, you would've waited for the 360 version to see what changes would be made.

[Gorehound]

If it is true, which I hope it is!

I rather have a game that require real skills to play like VF5 online than that shitty scrubby fighter that a six year old can play and win like DOA4 online anytime!

[f_man]

ummm you won't get any confirmation before E3.........


Also it doesn't make sense to boycott VF5 by selling copies. You knew exactly what you were getting when buying the ps3 version and you knew that the 360 version was coming out later. If it really mattered, you would've waited for the 360 version to see what changes would be made.


this entire thread is misleading. it makes you think that online gameplay has been confirmed but it isnt. parryall ftw.

all it says is there will be features not scene on the ps3, having to do with xbox live.

waste.

[coffeerox]

ummm you won't get any confirmation before E3.........


Also it doesn't make sense to boycott VF5 by selling copies. You knew exactly what you were getting when buying the ps3 version and you knew that the 360 version was coming out later. If it really mattered, you would've waited for the 360 version to see what changes would be made.

well here's the thing. The main issue was there being multiple versions. Ours being Version B. I always knew that we were going to get Version C when the Xbox one comes. But not ONLY are they getting Version C, but they are getting an enhanced training mode (one akin to VF4EVO), as well as better AA (smoother picture), enhanced AI, AND online features that may or may not include online play. Even if they don't get online play, they will most likely get the real VFTV that we PS3 owners got screwed out of so bad. All I'm saying is that it's possible to include all of that for us PS3 owners as well. Just like how we got Knights of the Nine, and going to get Shivering Isles for Oblivion (which matches what the 360 will be getting when they get Shivering Isles).

Fuckers like ParryAll shouldn't even talk because fuckers like him hasn't even spent the money on the game to even provide a valid point of view coming from an actual owner and player of the game. I actually own the original Capcom vs SNK 2 for the Dreamcast. AM I pissed that I can't play that game online even though you can in Japan? Hell yes. Am I entitled to be pissed? Hell yes. Are fuckers like Parryall entitled to be pissed? Hell no. He doesn't even own one. In the big picture of things only consumers have the right to complain.

[PimpC]

How does it hurt sega? It's the loyalty that they lost. They will never have another [I meant myself] VF customer ever again if they put online on the 360. It's the fact that I spent 60 dollars for a fighting game, with the comfort knowing that they will release Ver.C through a patch when the 360 comes, now they announce Online which for reasons untold (most possibly due to laziness) will not be in the PS3 version? They're alienating the entire PS VF fanbase and for what? What reason do they have for doing this to us?

With the state that fighting games are in right now, they need every customer they get. When the 360 version does come out with online, no doubt a lot of casual fighting game fans will sell their copy, regardless of what I say, that's just how it's going to be. Everyone's going to see what Sega did and a lot of their fanbase will just simply disappear.

I do like VF and that's why I bought the game. But I also like game balance and I've always dreamed of patch fixes over the network, so we don't have garbage like GGXX AC where they need to release game after game because they always have something new, or have some major issue to fix. Online feature is like, the one feature that I've always wanted, yet never got, and for Sega to consider giving it to the 360 when us PS3 owners were the ones that first bought and supported their game is ludicrous.

I really can't agree though. Last gen SF:AC had online for xbox and not ps2 and I believe the ps2 one came out first. Was there a big uproar going on? Fuck no. It's simply not that deep. To say they'll lose "a lot of their fanbase" has to be over 50% of it for that to be true. Basically you're saying that over half of Sega's fans first have a ps3 and no 360 and also will stop supporting them because the 360 version is online and the ps3 version isn't. I just can't buy that.

faggot....this is not directed at anyone I just wanted to see if it was still censored of if you censored yourself for some odd reason

edit: hmmm....you did edit yourself.....odd

[coffeerox]

I really can't agree though. Last gen SF:AC had online for xbox and not ps2 and I believe the ps2 one came out first. Was there a big uproar going on? Fuck no. It's simply not that deep. To say they'll lose "a lot of their fanbase" has to be over 50% of it for that to be true. Basically you're saying that over half of Sega's fans first have a ps3 and no 360 and also will stop supporting them because the 360 version is online and the ps3 version isn't. I just can't buy that.

faggot....this is not directed at anyone I just wanted to see if it was still censored of if you censored yourself for some odd reason

edit: hmmm....you did edit yourself.....odd

Well last generation the 2 consoles were 299.99 respectively and the PS2 at the time was 199.99. So it wasnt that big of a deal to buy another console to make up for it. On the PS3, we PS3 owners paid a premium price to experience the best fo the best of the best and instead we get half-assed releases. Look at the original VF4 compared to VF4 Evo. If they had actually sit down and put all those features in first (like Namco does) it would be an amazing game first time around. Outside of that it's half-assed. You know it, I know it, we all know it.

[Ephidel]

I am perfectly fine with my PS3 version now lol.

[shoo]

I am perfectly fine with my PS3 version now lol.

dam straight :D

you goin to evo west and/or world?

[ShinkuuR]

well here's the thing. The main issue was there being multiple versions. Ours being Version B. I always knew that we were going to get Version C when the Xbox one comes. But not ONLY are they getting Version C, but they are getting an enhanced training mode (one akin to VF4EVO), as well as better AA (smoother picture), enhanced AI, AND online features that may or may not include online play. Even if they don't get online play, they will most likely get the real VFTV that we PS3 owners got screwed out of so bad. All I'm saying is that it's possible to include all of that for us PS3 owners as well. Just like how we got Knights of the Nine, and going to get Shivering Isles for Oblivion (which matches what the 360 will be getting when they get Shivering Isles).



Well maybe they will release an update down the line with all that stuff in it(like they did with VF4 Evo), or they can release a patch for it like Namco's doing for DR Online. I don't know.

And if Sega doesn't...yeah that would suck, but maybe they will have their reasons. I'm pretty sure that if the PS3 version would've came out the same time the 360 version does, then both ports would be equal in terms in content. But selling your copy would just be dumb since Sega already has your money, the best thing you can do is write them displaying your dissappointment and don't buy anymore of the VF series.

We don't even know for sure if the 360 version will be playable online, but if it is then that's a win/win situation for VF fans. Even if the gameplay isn't lag free and 60 frames and whatever, the fact that it's online will give it more exposure with the players(which is the REAL problem with the VF series in the US) and breed more players who will want to learn the game and play it offline.

Anyway just wait til E3 when we can actually confirm something.

[DevilJin 01]

LOL @ Coffee.

[DS]

Fuckers like ParryAll shouldn't even talk because fuckers like him hasn't even spent the money on the game to even provide a valid point of view coming from an actual owner and player of the game. I actually own the original Capcom vs SNK 2 for the Dreamcast. AM I pissed that I can't play that game online even though you can in Japan? Hell yes. Am I entitled to be pissed? Hell yes. Are fuckers like Parryall entitled to be pissed? Hell no. He doesn't even own one. In the big picture of things only consumers have the right to complain.


LOL @ CvS2 online for the Dreamcast. The game came out when competition for CvS2 was at it's peak. So yeah, no.

Also, Parryall is right. The initial post guaranteed online play and all that was linked was a few screenshots that mean nothing. Screenshots + Random text =/= confirmed VF5 online play.

[PimpC]

I can't believe that something this could make someone that mad.....it's not even confirmed.

[Ephidel]

dam straight :D

you goin to evo west and/or world?

Doesn't look like I'll make it to both, I'm really busy this summer (again w_w)

I'll try to make world since I might be in vegas around that time.

[Tigerboi]

Why do people whine about a game having online play? I don't get it.

[Giza]

This isn't Sega hate to sony. I'm surprised there even releasing this on xbox 360 with VF5:Evo on the way. Sega didn't make VF5 online for PS3 because they didn't think there would be a need, it was released before any of the other fighting games had online matches planned (or word of it released). Now that a lot of the other fighting games are coming out with online of coarse Sega is gonna get online going for their next VF5 release, which just happens to only be on Xbox360. Maybe they could do a patch for the PS3 but it can be quite difficult to do good offline to online patches on consoles. When the next version of VF5 comes out for PS3 you will get your online fix.

Last generation, that would be true and I would agree with you. But this generation is different. We get add-ons and updates to our games which gives it the ability to match whatever version is lacking. --- It should be the same for everyone.No that stupid. Companies are supposed to support certain console more than others in a lot of cases. You don't seem to be complaining about Tekken 6 being exclusive to PS3. Why shouldn't it be on xbox360 too? Its only fair, right? IF you don't like the companies chose to support other systems more than fine don't buy there games but that would only decrease their support of your console even more. It is your loss either way.

[Ephidel]

Why do people whine about a game having online play? I don't get it.

The purpose defeats itself, they would whine more even if it didn't.

[InfiniDragon615]

While I think it's kinda bad for VF to be online as it won't play the same, I also think that there are a lot of people who simply won't care or will adapt, since they'll have comp. Also, I bet 98% of people complaining in here would be kissing AM2's proverbial rings if this were the PS3 version going online, as opposed to yet another kick in the nuts to Sony's fanbase.

[coffeerox]

if PS3 had gotten online instead of 360, I would be relieved, as I would be getting online, but I would still look down on Sega for doing that to it's fanbase. Kissing AM2's nuts? Hell no. They shafted me on 3TB and part 4, and having to buy Evolution so as far as I'm concerned I just want a quality fighting game to play and I want this competition thing sorted out. I seriously was on the verge of quitting fighting games but VF5 and Tekken 5 was supposed to bring me out of that.

Before I heard this online nonsense I was just fine. But now that I hear it, it's pissed me off because there's potentially thousands of comp online, yet there isn't, because the fucking developers haven't made it yet, why? Because they're lazy. On top of all this, us PS3 owners aren't going to be getting it now? And I paid 60 dollars why? So my money can be spent towards making another console version better and not my own?

Tekken6 is a completely different situation. That's console exclusive. I can see why 360 owners would complain, but most of those complaints are from former PS fans that played Tekken. The core 360 fanbase are not into fighters, you can go on any Xbox forum and do some sort of poll it would come out that way. This VF situation is different. Here, you have an opportunity to make both console releases the same, yet they decide to completely screw over the PS3 owner. Because patches can be made so that the game can be the same, we should have the same features. This is not like last generation.

I don't understand how you nitwits can't comprehend this simple idea. Maybe it's because you broke fucks don't even own a 360 or a PS3 and don't even understand the shit we have for it.

btw Infinidragon, you know how bad our scene is with comp. I may have left AZ's scene a long time ago, but today is most likely even worse. All we got to play at is CnC, MGL and Metro, and I've been to Metro lately they still have the same old dilapidated games. I'm pretty sure nobody is playing SCIII arcade and our SC community is dead. I don't know how the Tuscon Tekken community is doing, but at least that scene could be up and running since we have a decent Dark Resurrection port (soon to be online). But at least this Tekken situation is going to get better because it's going to connect people in a way they never thought possible. Do you remember the topic title Al posted a long way back? Now that's just sad.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Jesus coffee, you are by far one of the most annoying, whiny little girls i have seen on this site. Seriously, listen to yourself. If in fact you are able to buy whatever you want, then just get it for the 360 and play online, IF in fact it it even IS online. Sega is obviously gonna add stuff to the 360 version and you should be happy that the US is getting an updated version at all. Who knows, you might still get an update and online play with the ps3 version, tekken got it. all your whining about buying VF and being a fan and getting screwed is just really dumb so cut it out. I am happy we got evo, it was 20 fucking dollars so you can't complain about that. so before you go off screaming like a girl, wait till we get some sort of confirmation, THEN take a breath and try not to sound like a total baby when you say something about it. REALLY i have not been this annoyed by someone here in a long time. Chill the fuck out, and use some goddamn common sense before you post again.

[coffeerox]

Jesus coffee, you are by far one of the most annoying, whiny little girls i have seen on this site. Seriously, listen to yourself. If in fact you are able to buy whatever you want, then just get it for the 360 and play online, IF in fact it it even IS online. Sega is obviously gonna add stuff to the 360 version and you should be happy that the US is getting an updated version at all. Who knows, you might still get an update and online play with the ps3 version, tekken got it. all your whining about buying VF and being a fan and getting screwed is just really dumb so cut it out. I am happy we got evo, it was 20 fucking dollars so you can't complain about that. so before you go off screaming like a girl, wait till we get some sort of confirmation, THEN take a breath and try not to sound like a total baby when you say something about it. REALLY i have not been this annoyed by someone here in a long time. Chill the fuck out, and use some goddamn common sense before you post again.

you're not the one who fucking spent 649 dollars + 64.85 on a game. So as far as I'm concerned you don't have an opinion.

[Shadowcuz]

need confirmation from Sega

this is just all rumors

[coffeerox]

Ok let me make this real simple. What if your local grocery store used to always have this deal. Then they change that deal due to some stupid garbage in their policy, so what happens? You get pissed, bitch, complain (whether to someone else or the store itself) and then you happen to switch sides and go somewhere else.

It's the same idea here, yet since you don't actually own the product, you see other people complain about it and you think you have your own idea about how to handle the situation. After all, you didn't spend shit, and didn't lose anything, so really why the fuck should you care? And that's why the majorit of responses towards my responses are the way they are.

Since only I and a few other people own VF here, and only I'm speaking out, only my opinion matters. Obviously. I know more about the situation and more about what my own console can do than anybody else that doesn't own a PS3. I made that simple analogy about Oblivion and people still didn't get it. Why? Because people don't even own the fucking PS3, or a 360, so really their opinion and input is completely worthless.

[Giza]

you're not the one who fucking spent 649 dollars + 64.85 on a game. So as far as I'm concerned you don't have an opinion.Maybe you shouldn't of spend that much on fucking console if you didn't know you were gonna be happy with it. You bought it knowing VF5 didn't have online. It was your choice to buy. You could of waited and seen if the other releases had online or whatever but you decided to buy it when it was first released. Just because a console is more expensive does not mean its gonna get all the same game properties as the other cheaper consoles may have. You don't get to yell, bitch and not allow people to try and knock some sense into you just because you payed a lot of money for a console that isn't getting what other consoles are.

Ok let me make this real simple. What if your local grocery store used to always have this deal. Then they change that deal due to some stupid garbage in their policy, so what happens? You get pissed, bitch, complain (whether to someone else or the store itself) and then you happen to switch sides and go somewhere else. So you are gonna buy an Xbox360?

[arstal]

Here's the question a lot of you guys need to answer. Why is it that having online VF5 degrades the quality of offline VF5? How does it make the offline game worse. Does XBL have cooties or something?

If you're mad at Sega if The X360 vers is much superior to the PS3 version, then don't buy anything from Sega/Sammy ever again, including Guilty Gear...

[coffeerox]

Maybe you shouldn't of spend that much on fucking console if you didn't know you were gonna be happy with it. You bought it knowing VF5 didn't have online. It was your choice to buy. You could of waited and seen if the other releases had online or whatever but you decided to buy it when it was first released. Just because a console is more expensive does not mean its gonna get all the same game properties as the other cheaper consoles may have. You don't get to yell, bitch and not allow people to try and knock some sense into you just because you payed a lot of money for a console that isn't getting what other consoles are.

VF isn't what I bought my consoles for. But your entire post is negated by post # 58 last paragraph

So you are gonna buy an Xbox360?

Right click my gamer tag and find out.

If you're mad at Sega if The X360 vers is much superior to the PS3 version, then don't buy anything from Sega/Sammy ever again, including Guilty Gear...

don't worry. GGXX AC wasn't paid for and I'll be going to someone else's house to play the US vers. It's not even that the core gameplay is superior, its the fact that they are getting thousands of comp and I only got 3 people. This is the situation for many many people right now. Not just me. I just decide to speak up about it.

[Tigerboi]

Awww, coffee has buyers remorse.


Dude, get over it, what's done is done. Either keep playing it offline or shut up.

[coffeerox]

Awww, coffee has buyers remorse.


Dude, get over it, what's done is done. Either keep playing it offline or shut up.

not really. If you're referring to my console then no, I don't have buyers remorse. If you're referring to my VF copy, no, because I actually got it for 30 dollars brand new. So if I wanted to sell it i would only lose about 5-10 dollars, if I sold it online I'd get all my money back. That's not the issue here.

Most people here don't understand that if theres a capacity to get something, then you should get something. If you could get better air conditioning for free (and that your current one really makes living conditions really bad) then wouldn't you push for better air conditioning? If people like you guys were to be living back in the MLK days you guys would still be under the heels of the white man. Get a fucking backbone and start fighting for what you deserve.

[Tigerboi]

Before I heard this online nonsense I was just fine. But now that I hear it, it's pissed me off because there's potentially thousands of comp online, yet there isn't, because the fucking developers haven't made it yet, why? Because they're lazy. On top of all this, us PS3 owners aren't going to be getting it now? And I paid 60 dollars why? So my money can be spent towards making another console version better and not my own?

are there two of you or something?



Most people here don't understand that if theres a capacity to get something, then you should get something. If you could get better air conditioning for free (and that your current one really makes living conditions really bad) then wouldn't you push for better air conditioning? If people like you guys were to be living back in the MLK days you guys would still be under the heels of the white man. Get a fucking backbone and start fighting for what you deserve

There already is a concept for that. It's called paying money. Hear it's hot these days.

[Bahn Yuki]

Ok let me make this real simple. What if your local grocery store used to always have this deal. Then they change that deal due to some stupid garbage in their policy, so what happens? You get pissed, bitch, complain (whether to someone else or the store itself) and then you happen to switch sides and go somewhere else.

It's the same idea here, yet since you don't actually own the product, you see other people complain about it and you think you have your own idea about how to handle the situation. After all, you didn't spend shit, and didn't lose anything, so really why the fuck should you care? And that's why the majorit of responses towards my responses are the way they are.

Since only I and a few other people own VF here, and only I'm speaking out, only my opinion matters. Obviously. I know more about the situation and more about what my own console can do than anybody else that doesn't own a PS3. I made that simple analogy about Oblivion and people still didn't get it. Why? Because people don't even own the fucking PS3, or a 360, so really their opinion and input is completely worthless.
You should have waited case closed. You just keep self-owning yourself with silly analogies that nobody cares about. Should VF5 for the PS3 have online play? that was SEGA's decision and they felt it wasn't viable enough to put it in for PS3. If online play is coming to 360 then that's because it WAS viable whether it be cost, time, or just because Microsoft requested it; it really doesn't matter because you knew there was a 360 version down the line anyway. You forfeited your right to complain when you purchased the PS3 months ago. SEGA doesn't owe you a damn thing, you got what you paid for. For those future 360 VF5 owners, they'll be rewarded for their patience with extras and hopefully online play. If you feel that strongly about it, then just trade in the PS3 one for the 360 one. Sure you lose about $30 in the deal, but you have had the game a good 4 months before the 360 people have had, and you don't see anyone complaining about that do you?

[coffeerox]

I remember back in the day, tragic started a petition for more GGXX cabinets. He was a hardcore GGXX player and was pissed that there wasn't enough comp for the US, simply because we had no cabinets available. This is the same exact situation, except comp for VF is more dire b/c not many people around each other are PS3 owners. PS3 owners are more spread apart, but if united, we could have an awesome VF community. To think that's not happening because some dev's are fucking lazy and or brand loyal annoys the hell out of me.

You forfeited your right to complain when you purchased the PS3 months ago.

Not really, that's like saying Oblivion, Genji, Sonic players don't deserve their patches because they bought it when it first came out. It's like saying World of Warcraft players don't deserve patches. I'm not even saying to release it for free, but at least release it. And I'm hearing this same kind of thinking from both sides of the coin. X360 owners didn't get a Knights of the Nine or Shivering Isles and they have to pay for both expansions but PS3 owners only need Shivering Isles. As far as 360 owners are concerned they have a right to the next expansion and same goes for the PS3.

[Giza]

But you are whining about it on SRK? ... That doesn't seem to be the most direct approach... in fact... it doesn't seem like you are getting anything out of it at all. I understand you want it online for PS3 as well and you should try to do this through Sony and Sega. If you want support from here you got to know we don't respond kindly to people who act up like you do. If you want to get people to boycott the game or whatever, maybe you should do it in a less whiny manner. Be serious about it if you want people to take you serious. Cause right now you are just looking like a whiny kid. You complain, complain complain on a message boards that really doesn't give a shit about the PS3 getting everything the Xbox360 gets and you do in a way that disrespects those who try to speak in a sensible way to you.

Maybe if PS3 VF5 sales pick up you can get your way and have a patch that gets it online. But frankly its not selling too well overall and it may not be worth it to make an online patch.

[General Deamond]

This thread started with good news and now, it's trash.

[Tigerboi]

Not really, that's like saying Oblivion, Genji, Sonic players don't deserve their patches because they bought it when it first came out. It's like saying World of Warcraft players don't deserve patches. I'm not even saying to release it for free, but at least release it. And I'm hearing this same kind of thinking from both sides of the coin. X360 owners didn't get a Knights of the Nine or Shivering Isles and they have to pay for both expansions but PS3 owners only need Shivering Isles. As far as 360 owners are concerned they have a right to the next expansion and same goes for the PS3.


The companies don't OWE you anything. Accept it.

[Giza]

Anyway, it is good news. Virtua Fighter 5 online is gonna be sweet, of coarse it probably won't be working too well but hey, it is something right? Nice to see the release date in August I heard it was gonna be pushed back a few more months a few weeks ago and I am happy to see a reliable source saying its pretty close by this.

[InfiniDragon615]

btw Infinidragon, you know how bad our scene is with comp. I may have left AZ's scene a long time ago, but today is most likely even worse. All we got to play at is CnC, MGL and Metro, and I've been to Metro lately they still have the same old dilapidated games. I'm pretty sure nobody is playing SCIII arcade and our SC community is dead. I don't know how the Tuscon Tekken community is doing, but at least that scene could be up and running since we have a decent Dark Resurrection port (soon to be online). But at least this Tekken situation is going to get better because it's going to connect people in a way they never thought possible. Do you remember the topic title Al posted a long way back? Now that's just sad.

Oh yeah, comp in AZ is like finding water in AZ, unless you play Smash. :rofl: Metro's fucking DR machine has bad sticks, which makes me sad. I love playing that game in arcades.

[coffeerox]

But you are whining about it on SRK? ... That doesn't seem to be the most direct approach... in fact... it doesn't seem like you are getting anything out of it at all. I understand you want it online for PS3 as well and you should try to do this through Sony and Sega. If you want support from here you got to know we don't respond kindly to people who act up like you do. If you want to get people to boycott the game or whatever, maybe you should do it in a less whiny manner. Be serious about it if you want people to take you serious. Cause right now you are just looking like a whiny kid. You complain, complain complain on a message boards that really doesn't give a shit about the PS3 getting everything the Xbox360 gets and you do in a way that disrespects those who try to speak in a sensible way to you.

Maybe if PS3 VF5 sales pick up you can get your way and have a patch that gets it online. But frankly its not selling too well overall and it may not be worth it to make an online patch.

no. really people just took the boycotting thing and just ran with it and prodded and poked the shit out of me until I keep (and still am) trying to explain myself. Then somebody came up with the whining thing and just ran with that so now everyone thinks I'm whining. You guys have a pretty twisted outlook on what's whining and what's true criticism.

I'm an owner of a PS3 and the PS3 version of Virtua Fighter 5 so I'm qualified to comment on what Sega can and can't do with the release on this console. It's as simple as that. What others see as complaining, I see as constructive criticism in that they needed to do better and release a more complete product, if not, at least give us the same content if they decide to bring it multiplatform. I highly doubt SRK'ers would even understand this paragraph.

I guess since so many people have shit bought for them or wait until stuff is extremely cheap they dont understand the value of a dollar. There's nothing wrong with consumers wanting more from an incomplete product. Or else Ipods wouldnt keep evolving.

Oh yeah, comp in AZ is like finding water in AZ, unless you play Smash. Metro's fucking DR machine has bad sticks, which makes me sad. I love playing that game in arcades.

Smash? LOL, I heard they have tournaments for that. I was really suprised because Smash back then didn't have a huge following. The Smash players I knew are long gone (Dwayne, Darnell, Tony and so on) and supposedly they're waiting for Brawl. Which by the way, has online. And about Metro's sticks, since when were they good? LOL

[DevilJin 01]

Ok let me make this real simple. What if your local grocery store used to always have this deal. Then they change that deal due to some stupid garbage in their policy, so what happens? You get pissed, bitch, complain (whether to someone else or the store itself) and then you happen to switch sides and go somewhere else.

It's the same idea here, yet since you don't actually own the product, you see other people complain about it and you think you have your own idea about how to handle the situation. After all, you didn't spend shit, and didn't lose anything, so really why the fuck should you care? And that's why the majorit of responses towards my responses are the way they are.

Since only I and a few other people own VF here, and only I'm speaking out, only my opinion matters. Obviously. I know more about the situation and more about what my own console can do than anybody else that doesn't own a PS3. I made that simple analogy about Oblivion and people still didn't get it. Why? Because people don't even own the fucking PS3, or a 360, so really their opinion and input is completely worthless.

What's that got to do with SF? What's VF?

[DS]

I'm an owner of a PS3 and the PS3 version of Virtua Fighter 5 so I'm qualified to comment on what Sega can and can't do with the release on this console. It's as simple as that. What others see as complaining, I see as constructive criticism in that they needed to do better and release a more complete product, if not, at least give us the same content if they decide to bring it multiplatform. I highly doubt SRK'ers would even understand this paragraph.

You don't have a right to do ANYTHING except buy the damn thing and conform to the norm. Sega doesn't know who you are and they don't care who you are. They have your money and the armored trucks already picked it up and deposited into their bank account. You're just a sales figure to Sega. You are nothing else.

At this rate, we STILL don't know if this is actual online play and not downloadable content. And at the end of the day, VF will play like ass online. There is nothing that can be said about it. You're forgetting about netcoding. That alone makes or breaks the game's online capabilities. And last we checked, VF is very frame dependant.

I guess since so many people have shit bought for them or wait until stuff is extremely cheap they dont understand the value of a dollar. There's nothing wrong with consumers wanting more from an incomplete product. Or else Ipods wouldnt keep evolving.


No. A lot of us here know the value of a dollar. A lot of us here actually travel to tournaments and have invested in all the updates and equipment that comes along with this hobby. If anything, WE know the value more than you do. At the end of the day, VF will still be alive on the PS3 because it works out for a lot of the tournies out there since they're all console. VF and T5DR on one console(until T6 is out, anyway)? That's a money savor and a time savor for setting up.

And again, VF5 Version C is not gonna be anything drastic. So far, it's only rumors about updated customizable items and AI(which no one here cares about). It's still the same hitboxes and attacks that regular VF5 was.

And if you're pissed off about revisions, then welcome to the 90's because Capcom has been doing this since day one. Don't act like this situation is anything new and bizarre.

[coffeerox]

ok, so going by this thread, people are completely satisfied that they are paying 399.99 and 599.99 to buy a 59.99 game to occasionally enjoy with 2-5 people? and that you're not enticed by the fact that you COULD be playing with thousands and thousands of players? Thus getting 10x better in the process and possibly having online tournaments from the comfort of your own home? Being able to play with pro players whenever you can hop online?

I had already made this point from my previous war with SRK when I said that RTS and FPS games are more evolved and thus have larger communities all because they have the online aspect. Something which the fighting game genre does not have. Maybe the fighting game genre would mature a lot quicker and better if we had more online fighting games to play? That would certainly be a + for everyone as it would lead to more and better games for everyone. A lot of the things said in this thread contradicts that. It's as if you guys WANT to be stuck in the past because you would have it no other way.

Fact is, the Smash and Tekken communities are about to be blown up in ways that no fighting game player would ever imagine. I want the VF community to be a part of that, because I think VF is a great game that's slowed down by the fact that there's virtually no comp anywhere due to it's expensive cabinet, expensive game console to buy/play, and not enough appeal in the first place. If they CAN do this, I want them to, because it would only help everyone out. The way I saw this 360 online only thing is that they only want to help half of the playerbase and the other half gets the short end. That's just not right because as I said, due to the architecture of the PS3, we CAN have this, and because of that, we SHOULD have it, regardless of if we had to pay for it or not.

[AlphaDragoon02]

If this were true, Sony fans got dissed. Again. What with the thing about Namco, Capcom and Sega switching their main output of games to Wii, and Square-Enix saying they weren't making anymore PS3 games until they'd actually turn a profit from them, it's looking worse and worse for ol' Sony.

Shame too, PS2/PS1 were and are consoles of legend.

[shoo]

ok, so going by this thread, people are completely satisfied that they are paying 399.99 and 599.99 to buy a 59.99 game to occasionally enjoy with 2-5 people?

YES

you're not enticed by the fact that you COULD be playing with thousands and thousands of players? Thus getting 10x better in the process and possibly having online tournaments from the comfort of your own home? Being able to play with pro players whenever you can hop online?

NO :lame:

GTFO

[DS]

ok, so going by this thread, people are completely satisfied that they are paying 399.99 and 599.99 to buy a 59.99 game to occasionally enjoy with 2-5 people? and that you're not enticed by the fact that you COULD be playing with thousands and thousands of players? Thus getting 10x better in the process and possibly having online tournaments from the comfort of your own home? Being able to play with pro players whenever you can hop online?

I had already made this point from my previous war with SRK when I said that RTS and FPS games are more evolved and thus have larger communities all because they have the online aspect. Something which the fighting game genre does not have. Maybe the fighting game genre would mature a lot quicker and better if we had more online fighting games to play? That would certainly be a + for everyone as it would lead to more and better games for everyone. A lot of the things said in this thread contradicts that. It's as if you guys WANT to be stuck in the past because you would have it no other way.



If ANY of these games have GGPO netcoding, then they'll get somewhere. But since they highly won't, they're not gonna get the push that people would want to give them. Again, VF is frame heavy and so is Tekken. Why do you think no one has given it much consideration outside of speculation? Those games require much more superior netcoding than any regular 2D fighter. A hiccup or two in an SF game is great, but with 3D a hiccup can mean a whole match.

And what make's you think there's any truth to this news? The headline may say so, but the pics are just 360 screenshots of offline play.

Tournies online? What exactly are you smoking? You do realize when it comes to tournies, there's ALWAYS money involved. Yeah, you'll be able to practice up, but you can't emulate the feel of a tourney at all.

[bill_rizer]

ROFL @ coffeerox, ah man dood you put a smile on my face let me tell you I anit laughed like that in awhile, dunno how I missed you on here, Im going to check the older threads you posted in, WAR with SRK lol ha pure win.

Anyone else think coffeerox is the reincarnation of Time_Stop?

LOL he lives again!!!

[coffeerox]

GTFO

you GTFO.

[shoo]

you GTFO.



good one buddy :lovin:

[Mizuki]

All I have to say on this is. STFU coffeerox.
Awww too bad they're not going to do it for you, I mean it's going to be the end of the world, right?
Come on if you want to do something, fucking WRITE to Sony and Sega about it, not whine about it on SRK, be proactive.

p.s. VF5 would sucks with online.

*edit*
I think he's reversed Super Warrior!

[coffeerox]

All I have to say on this is. STFU coffeerox.
Awww too bad they're not going to do it for you, I mean it's going to be the end of the world, right?
Come on if you want to do something, fucking WRITE to Sony and Sega about it, not whine about it on SRK, be proactive.

p.s. VF5 would sucks with online.

*edit*
I think he's reversed Super Warrior!

whining is subjective. While I think you're just hopping on the bandwagon, I think you don't know wtf I'm talking about.


p.s. VF5 would sucks with online.

so where did you get this online VF in which to base your theory on? Fact is, cable and FIOS are helping the internet be a better place for online gaming. It's already a perfect place for FPS, RTS gaming, as well as Card games like Texas Hold'em where they were previously only played on real tables. The technology for supporting online fighting games is there, it's all up to the developer to create something to work around this.

[FallingEdge]

No one knows wtf you are talking about. Just pointless ranting and bitching.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

So wait Cofferox, you own a 360 it seems. What's the problem? And did you pay $30 or $60 for the game(you posted both)? I'll just end up getting it for the 360 if it really does have online or any added features that are worth a re-purchase. I'd PREFER to have them update the title to match the PS3 version, just for the sake of convenience since I'd like to have all my fighters in one console(on the PS3, where I can play ALL my fighters, from PS1-PS3). Anyways, I'll take the "news" for what it is: a rumor that is so far, not been confirmed by Sega-Sammy them selves(fuck the fact that it's in MB).

[shoo]

No one knows wtf you are talking about. Just pointless ranting and bitching.

^
yeah!



maybe your friends at gamefaqs can help you, go rant with them.

[Dios <-X->]

Playstation in america has never been good at putting fighters online.

Xbox on the other hand.....

How many fighters did sony bring online in america before ps3 came? hm?

[Tigerboi]

Guys, this guy has proven to me that he'll respond even though he's losing. Just let him be, before this thread turns into something about something other than vf5.

[coffeerox]

So wait Cofferox, you own a 360 it seems. What's the problem? And did you pay $30 or $60 for the game(you posted both)? I'll just end up getting it for the 360 if it really does have online or any added features that are worth a re-purchase. I'd PREFER to have them update the title to match the PS3 version, just for the sake of convenience since I'd like to have all my fighters in one console(on the PS3, where I can play ALL my fighters, from PS1-PS3). Anyways, I'll take the "news" for what it is: a rumor that is so far, not been confirmed by Sega-Sammy them selves(fuck the fact that it's in MB).

the fact that I don't want to rebuy yet another fighter.

No one knows wtf you are talking about. Just pointless ranting and bitching.

maybe it's because you and people like you are a bunch of morons that can't read worth a damn. Just like the last war. It doesn't make sense how it's ONLY SRK that can't understand this point, yet TeamXbox, official boards and PS3forums all get what I'm saying. Maybe it's the casual player (along with our enthusiasm of our consoles) that gives us a better POV, but either way, you morons are the only ones that don't understand.

[caliagent#3]

Coffe, you KNEW the 360 version was coming AND what the ps3 version already had. You should've waited until features for the 360 version was announced, then made your decision which console to buy the game for. I bought a DC knowing i could play online and same with an XBOX. I skipped over the ps2 because of the lack of online play. Same thing here. You knew you were getting basically an arcade perfect version of VF, if you waited you would've found out about all the extras and enhancements the 360 version was getting. You can only blame yourself.

[DS]

maybe it's because you and people like you are a bunch of morons that can't read worth a damn. Just like the last war. It doesn't make sense how it's ONLY SRK that can't understand this point, yet TeamXbox, official boards and PS3forums all get what I'm saying. Maybe it's the casual player (along with our enthusiasm of our consoles) that gives us a better POV, but either way, you morons are the only ones that don't understand.


Yeah, but those are fanboy boards that don't know a LICK about fighting games. We could money match EVERY single one of those fools and scrub them out.

While MS could make VF online tolerable, it still won't be exact to the offline version due to frame dependancy.

[coffeerox]

ok I"m going to quote someone on the same topic

Originally Posted by Dasimpse
Dude no ofence but your talkin about a 60 fps fighting game where you can do a conter in 1 frame, It does matter with Virtua fighter!

Originally posted by silentmemory
I'm not buying it, you can't see any faster than about 30fps, don't tell me you can pull off 30 counters in a second with any accuracy.

If you can pull off a running headshot from across the map in a 50-player online FPS, I'm sure you can knee some guy in the groin in a big fat 1-on-1 fighter.

It's true. It's damn true.

[DS]

It's true. It's damn true.


I'd rather listen to a top player than those random scrubs. Lag ftl. What then?

[GlennFinito]

I'm pretty sure it's not online play..But some other online functionality..like Leaderboars..

The best we can hope for is pitting our trained AI's against each other (AKIRACHU I CHOOSE YOU!)

the amount of sour grapes in this thread is astounding...What prevents the ps3 version recieving an update later on?

[plasmakill]

lol this shit has gone downhill. Still though I will cry if magic box lied to me, I've trusted them for years and I highly doubt that this is bs.

The guy bitching in here really needs to chill, no one(cept sony brainwash) made you spend like $800 for a PS3 and a copy of VF5.

[AlphaDragoon02]

The guy bitching in here really needs to chill, no one(cept sony brainwash) made you spend like $800 for a PS3 and a copy of VF5.

Truth. Anyone dumb enough to buy a PS3 did it to themselves. :rofl:

[coffeerox]

I'd rather listen to a top player than those random scrubs. Lag ftl. What then?

But that top player might or might not know anything about technology or even posted above, how the human eye works. So you can't see faster than 30fps, but the game is 60fps. So if it lags even 1fps you can't see it because its still running faster than 30fps. This isn't just theory it's fact. Look up the human eye if you want. Going by that, it doesn't make sense. How can I shoot someone in the head, with a lag-free 50-man match and I can't throw a simple punch in VF?

the amount of sour grapes in this thread is astounding...What prevents the ps3 version recieving an update later on?

Nothing. It's all up to sega and that's what the whole controversy is all about. Anything that Sega is announcing is for 360 only, even though the infastructure for updating the PS3 version is there. Yet do you know the only thing that's planned for the PS3 version? Version C. That's it. All those other stuff that could have been put into the PS3 version is not going to be in there. I'd be completely happy if only both consoles got no netplay, Version C, and possibly some online features, if only 360 got those, then whatever. As long as both don't have netplay.

Lag ftl. What then?

I have never lagged with someone that had as good a connection as I have. All I can say is to go play someone with a good connection.

Truth. Anyone dumb enough to buy a PS3 did it to themselves.

let me translate this for people who don't get it. I'm poor and I can't afford next-gen so everyone who has a next-gen console are stupid.

Broke ass nigga.

God damn that's some stupid reasoning people have there. It's like saying well Vista doesn't have much compatiability right now so whoever buys Vista is stupid. WTF KINDA shit is that? I mean damn. Vista is the next-gen platform for PC games and that's where it's gonna be at, starting with Halo 2 Vista and Hellgate London. Might not be a lot of games for Vista, but all the previous games work, so whats the big deal with downplaying Vista users? It's just plain stupidity is what that is. Vista is fine, it'll all get ironed out eventually.

[GlennFinito]

VF5 will have no netplay...Any version


I truly honestly believe this.


What I'm hoping for online functionality-wise is VF.tv style stuff...Sadly this won't happen

[specs]

Holy fucking shit, coffeerox. I was nice to you when you shoved your head up your own ass in that "I'm bothered by stupid shit my WoW buddies do" thread you posted and embarrassed yourself in, but reading this thread and seeing your posts I've lost all sympathy. Because nothing pisses me off more than seeing someone I try to defend making a complete and total ass of himself.

Are you a fucking retard? Seriously? You sound like every joke of a scrub at GameFAQs who thinks he's hot shit, spouting off ill-reasoned "points" while ignoring every flaw in his very heavily flawed argument.

You've been told the following, along with variations of it, all throughout this thread:

Come on if you want to do something, fucking WRITE to Sony and Sega about it, not whine about it on SRK, be proactive.

This is, of course, assuming that the news of VF's 360 online capabilities is actually true. Did you actually listen to this? Are you actually interested in trying to get online play on the PS3 version, or in arguing with people who have owned your dumb ass like a hundred times over in this thread alone?

What are you accomplishing here, exactly? Other than once again embarrassing yourself to the delight of everyone else in this thread, and even people who don't give a shit about VF like me? Answer the question. "Um, okay, leik you don't know about VF so fuck you" isn't an answer btw. Answer this: what are you accomplishing here?

Because from my perspective, you are doing a very good job of gaining a reputation as a jackass of Kouli-like proportions. (I know that you know who Kouli is, because you mentioned him on SRK once, and if you think he isn't a jackass, that's probably part of your problem.)

Listen close, and try to turn off that part of your brain that's making you leak so much sand out of your vagina:

1) Your answer to the whole ease of network connectivity vs. the 360 and the PS3. "Um, liek, Diablo and Warcraft are free so no yer rong." Well, excellent fucking retort. If you even applied 1% of the brain power you're using to continue hammering nails into your own coffin to thinking about your response there, you'd realize that there is WORLDS of difference between the netcoding and consequences of old Battle.Net PC games and modern day console fighters. You'd also probably realize that Blizzard had the money to spend AND the means of making it back. Sega is not nearly so rich (which is partially their own fault), and cannot afford to just put up free servers for netplay. The 360 has the tools to make netplay a possible and affordable reality for devs. Sony, currently, does not.

2) You spent an unreal amount of money on a PS3 for one game. This should teach you a lesson: if you don't know whether that game will be worth it, don't be a stupid fuck who spends his money on the most expensive system on the market just for that one game. You KNEW what kind of game VF was, and if you were hinging on netplay to find opponents, and lacked the local human competition you desired, YOU SHOULD'VE WAITED TO SEE WHAT OTHER PLATFORMS THE GAME WOULD'VE BEEN RELEASED ON. And if you DO have local comp... well, guess what, you still made a decision to burn the kind of money most of us can't just drop at a whim for a game you're only getting local comp for, and not net comp. Sorry, chump, you made an poorly informed choice. Learn some fucking responsibility and suck it up.

[AlphaDragoon02]

let me translate this for people who don't get it. I'm poor and I can't afford next-gen so everyone who has a next-gen console are stupid.

Let me translate for you since you got it wrong:

"PS3 is a waste of money and the Xbox 360 is a better console."

Thank you, come again.

[Azagtoth]

/\-----He does have both, you know.

...Wow.

I doubt this is true, but if it is, then blame AM2 for going back on their word.

Point was already made, but PS3 version will probably still get more play thanks to convenience (more controller options, same console as DR and other fighters are readily available).

I do agree that there should at the very least be a patch for PS3 version with some updates, but it probably won't make a difference since there are no gameplay updates.

[coffeerox]

lol you guys are such fucking retards that I shouldn't even bother replying. Cause it's fucking stupid. Like seriously. You got some random fucker that thinks a regular contributor and helps people out is a douche, and then you got some random fucker that thinks the PS3 is garbage because it is, and the X360 is better because it is, and gives aboslutely no reasons, other than it is how it is. Someday you fucks will see how stupid your posts look, but it's not today, but it's alright because they don't make me mad.

[plasmakill]

See this shit, Sony ruins lives.

[DS]

But that top player might or might not know anything about technology or even posted above, how the human eye works. So you can't see faster than 30fps, but the game is 60fps. So if it lags even 1fps you can't see it because its still running faster than 30fps. This isn't just theory it's fact. Look up the human eye if you want. Going by that, it doesn't make sense. How can I shoot someone in the head, with a lag-free 50-man match and I can't throw a simple punch in VF?



Yeah, no. It's all about reaction times. Play any top player in their respective fighter and you'll find yourself losing to their reaction time. Why do you think Valle was the master of the psychic dragonpunch at one time? His reaction time was rediculously good and he could read his opponent easily. And he still can. You have A SPLIT SECOND to punish certain moves. If your reaction time hasn't gotten to that level, then something is wrong with you.

That lag may not even be one frame. It could be at two frames. Games can get laggy. Doesn't matter how good of a connection you have. Lag spikes happen all the time. It might be once, or it might be twice. But, VF depends on every frame for every counter. Especially for grabs.

If you've ever played on Kaillera, you'd know this.


EDIT - You have to remember, that those 60fps is the game's movement. But, every move has it's own frame count. Why do you think people study frame data in a game? You learn the startup frames and the recovery frames. You need to see those frames in order to counter. The game moves fast, but the gameplay itself, is not as fast as you may think.

[specs]

lol you guys are such fucking retards that I shouldn't even bother replying. Cause it's fucking stupid. Like seriously. You got some random fucker that thinks a regular contributor and helps people out is a douche, and then you got some random fucker that thinks the PS3 is garbage because it is, and the X360 is better because it is, and gives aboslutely no reasons, other than it is how it is. Someday you fucks will see how stupid your posts look, but it's not today, but it's alright because they don't make me mad.

The first bolded part is why you're being ridiculed. Learn how to argue worth a damn.

The second bolded part is both highly unlikely and very ironic at the same time.

The third bolded part is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard in my life. Even bigger than the dude who was making the MvC2 "Remix." And that was some pretty big bullshit.

[coffeerox]

The first bolded part is why you're being ridiculed. Learn how to argue worth a damn.

The second bolded part is both highly unlikely and very ironic at the same time.

The third bolded part is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard in my life. Even bigger than the dude who was making the MvC2 "Remix." And that was some pretty big bullshit.

still posting stupid nonsense?

[GlennFinito]

laggy online will make for scrubby fun and beasting with lau and jacky online. If it was online.

It would also help with popularity and exposure of VF.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

still posting stupid nonsense?

Wow, just drop it man, you are saying HE'S posting nonesense, but look at the shit YOU'RE posting. Honestly, you're a fucking retard. You're "argument" is both full of holes and stupid at the same time. And not "bother replying"? Bullshit, that sounds like a damn cop out. If you had an argument worth a shit, you'd bring it up. But you don't. And WE'RE the retards? GameFAQs is that (www.gamefaqs.com) way.

[coffeerox]

2) You spent an unreal amount of money on a PS3 for one game. This should teach you a lesson: if you don't know whether that game will be worth it, don't be a stupid fuck who spends his money on the most expensive system on the market just for that one game. You KNEW what kind of game VF was, and if you were hinging on netplay to find opponents, and lacked the local human competition you desired, YOU SHOULD'VE WAITED TO SEE WHAT OTHER PLATFORMS THE GAME WOULD'VE BEEN RELEASED ON. And if you DO have local comp... well, guess what, you still made a decision to burn the kind of money most of us can't just drop at a whim for a game you're only getting local comp for, and not net comp. Sorry, chump, you made an poorly informed choice. Learn some fucking responsibility and suck it up.

VF isn't what I bought my consoles for. But your entire post is negated by post # 58 last paragraph

Hmm lets see, I have:

Elder Scrolls Oblivion
Calling All Cars
flow
Tekken Dark Resurrection
The Darkness
Ridge Racer 7
Resistance Fall of Man
as well as about 10 bluray movies as of late

yeah. way to prove that all people do here is find one thing, run with it, attacking only it regardless of the facts presented.

Wow, just drop it man, you are saying HE'S posting nonesense, but look at the shit YOU'RE posting. Honestly, you're a fucking retard. You're "argument" is both full of holes and stupid at the same time. And not "bother replying"? Bullshit, that sounds like a damn cop out. If you had an argument worth a shit, you'd bring it up. But you don't. And WE'RE the retards? GameFAQs is that way.

In my mind you're the fucking retards based on the simple fact that I've shown some of the arguments you guys have presented and showed some of the stupid shit you guys posted to people that actually think for themselves and they think you're fucking morons (no not forum people real people) Makes me think I'm really not going crazy and it is in fact you trolls. I'm a logic poster, I'm never wrong. Because I wouldn't be posting something that's opposite of common sense.

[specs]

still posting stupid nonsense?

I'd have to be if I keep trying to get through your impossibly thick skull, now wouldn't I?

You are a small, small man, worthy of every bit of ridicule you're receiving and more. Sadly, I doubt you'll ever understand that.

[coffeerox]

I'd have to be if I keep trying to get through your impossibly thick skull, now wouldn't I?

You are a small, small man, worthy of every bit of ridicule you're receiving and more. Sadly, I doubt you'll ever understand that.

It's not even ridicule because I don't even think your opinion exists at this point. Do you get that? Of course not because you're a fucking retard. Only fellow VF owners can even comment and even if they like it just how it is, I respect that. But I want comp now that I know it's possible. I don't care wtf you have to say, you're no developer. Unless a developer comes in this thread, and explains in detail, with the actual technical details on why it's not possible then I will shut up. Tekken DR is frame dependent, and it's online, so VF should be too. Case closed, can't argue that shit.

[GlennFinito]

Wow! These grapes are very sour..I do not enjoy them one bit.



Also. I'm upset about an unconfirmed rumour of online play.


I wish I could afford a ps3 for T5:DR. And perhaps some other title involving ninjas hacking people in the face with swords.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

In my mind you're the fucking retards based on the simple fact that I've shown some of the arguments you guys have presented and showed some of the stupid shit you guys posted to people that actually think for themselves and they think you're fucking morons (no not forum people real people) Makes me think I'm really not going crazy and it is in fact you trolls. I'm a logic poster, I'm never wrong. Because I wouldn't be posting something that's opposite of common sense.

Well no shit in YOUR mind your right, everyone is like that. Except, your "logic" fails. For someone who takes pride in calling others that do NOT own the same consoles you do broke, you sure sound dumb. Think about it: You own both consoles it seems, and you only payed $30(or was it $60? lol), what the fuck is the problem then? Sell your PS3 copy, buy the 360 version and STFU if online means that much to you. I wanted Goh and Brad, plus all the extra content in Evo, and because I wanted it, I happily payed for it. You seem to want online, so why not buy the 360 version? Why come here and look like an idiot? You really need to take a step back, remove your head from your asshole, and think a little about what point your trying to make exactly. Because as of right now, it just seems like you have to bitch, and you're getting your hearts desire in this thread.

[DS]

Unless a developer comes in this thread, and explains in detail, with the actual technical details on why it's not possible then I will shut up. Tekken DR is frame dependent, and it's online, so VF should be too. Case closed, can't argue that shit.


Yeah, but I already did say why it's not possible: netcoding. Just because your connection is excellent doesn't mean the netcoding is. They are two different things and one has to rely on the other(in this case: a good connection relies on netcoding to provide an excellent experience).

You say you want it, but then when the lag kicks in you're probably the first to yell out "WTF?! LAG!"

[Dark Hadou XS]

you fail you ****ot horse fucking ass radish. God damn I hate it when we get people who has neither something to contribute for or against the current argument. Theres no fucking point to be posting some useless shit like that. fucking moron.
HAHAHAHAHA,

[coffeerox]

Well no shit in YOUR mind your right, everyone is like that. Except, your "logic" fails. For someone who takes pride and calling others that do NOT own the same consoles you do broke, you sure sound dumb. Think about it: You own both consoles it seems, and you only payed $30(or was it $60? lol), what the fuck is the problem then? Sell your PS3 copy, buy the 360 version and STFU if online means that much to you. I wanted Goh and Brad, plus all the extra content in Evo, and because I wanted it, I happily payed for it. You seem to want online, so why not buy the 360 version? Why come here and look like an idiot? You really need to take a step back, remove your head from your asshole, and think a little about what point your trying to make exactly. Because as of right now, it just seems like you have to bitch, and you're getting your hearts desire in this thread.

its' 20 dollars you dumb son of a bitch. on a 200 dollar system. it's nowhere near having to pay 650 dollars, even if my VF5 was only 30 bucks, its still on a 650 dollar system (even if it was 399.99 it'd still be valid to use against you). So you arguing about someone else's system on someone else's game that you don't fucking own yourself makes you a fucking moron end of story.


Yeah, but I already did say why it's not possible: netcoding. Just because your connection is excellent doesn't mean the netcoding is. They are two different things and one has to rely on the other(in this case: a good connection relies on netcoding to provide an excellent experience).

You say it's netcoding but you didn't explain it in detail. It just makes me believe even more they could do it because with the technology they have now, and with a little bit of effort, maybe some efficient engineering, they could find a way, but none of us, including you, will ever know, unless we actually went to work for them.

You say you want it, but then when the lag kicks in you're probably the first to yell out "WTF?! LAG!"

I've been on the back-end of lag and I've been killed in PVP many times so I'm used to that sorta stuff. But it doesn't even happen all the time and most of the time it's not me that's lagging.

[Tigerboi]

You say it's netcoding but you didn't explain it in detail. It just makes me believe even more they could do it because with the technology they have now, and with a little bit of effort, maybe some efficient engineering, they could find a way, but none of us, including you, will ever know, unless we actually went to work for them.


OH C'MON! THAT'S COMMON FUCKING KNOWLEDGE!

I never wouldv'e THOUGHT detail would be essentail to even make that point.

[coffeerox]

OH C'MON! THAT'S COMMON FUCKING KNOWLEDGE!

I never wouldv'e THOUGHT detail would be essentail to even make that point.

obviously not, if you can't explain it.

[shoo]

lol you guys are such fucking retards that I shouldn't even bother replying.


then dont

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

its' 20 dollars you dumb son of a bitch. on a 200 dollar system. it's nowhere near having to pay 650 dollars, even if my VF5 was only 30 bucks, its still on a 650 dollar system (even if it was 399.99 it'd still be valid to use against you). So you arguing about someone else's system on someone else's game that you don't fucking own yourself makes you a fucking moron end of story.


I own a PS3 AND VF5, retard, or did you miss the little red thing under my Gamertag? And you obviously missed the point. If you want something so badly, you'd find ways to get it, no? I wasn't comparing price points. I WILL buy the 360 version if there is online, and I payed for both consoles Why? Because it's something I want. If VF5 was truly not the only reason you bought a PS3, then I still don't have an excuse to make a big deal about this.

[coffeerox]

I own a PS3 AND VF5, retard, or did you miss the little red thing under my Gamertag? And you obviously missed the point. If you want something so badly, you'd find ways to get it, no? I wasn't comparing price points. I WILL buy the 360 version if there is online, and I payed for both consoles Why? Because it's something I want. If VF5 was truly not the only reason you bought a PS3, then I still don't have an excuse to make a big deal about this.

damn you're stupid.

anyways this is a quote from someone outside of this board.

the serious players wouldn't play it even if it was as close to perfect as humanly possible. they don't believe that anything but local play can do VF5 justice given how much of it based on frame counting and such.

heck, they've been actively campaigning against such a mode being included in any version of the game for some reason... as if a mode with large appeal that they were never going to play themselves was somehow going to damage the entire game.

that's partly why i want to see the mode in there... to see how the hardcore people react to it... how many of them embrace it despite it no doubt having faults... how those that do embrace it adopt their game to deal with the change in timings and the lag... etc.

so really having read that, why the fuck does anyone ever care about the game being 'impossible' or not. It's still VF and it's still possible online. I don't care about lag spikes or that shit, if the majority of time when people with good connections play each other, and good matches result out of that, I don't give a flying fuck because it's still competition that I would not have regardless.

btw, this VF5 online rumor came from a reliable employee source. Also Magicbox does not post rubbish, so if they posted it then it must have some credibility to it. I'm sticking with theres online for now.

[Debaser]

damn you're stupid.

anyways this is a quote from someone outside of this board.



so really having read that, why the fuck does anyone ever care about the game being 'impossible' or not. It's still VF and it's still possible online. I don't care about lag spikes or that shit, if the majority of time when people with good connections play each other, and good matches result out of that, I don't give a flying fuck because it's still competition that I would not have regardless.

btw, this VF5 online rumor came from a reliable employee source. Also Magicbox does not post rubbish, so if they posted it then it must have some credibility to it. I'm sticking with theres online for now.

Nice. I think you should take your own advice and stop posting because you're at the point where you're getting gangraped by everyone in this thread.

[The Granby]

You play akira, Your opponent plays Pai

Your opponent uses 2P.
You block 2P.
Your opponent is now at -5 frames (likewise you are +5 frames)
You use your eblow to beat any normal move he throws out.
Game lags, he beats your 14 frame elbow with 10 frame jab.
You are disadvantage from jab hitting but you can beat mid and throw mix up by fuzzy guarding (crouch dash then guard when mid is about to hit)
Game lags, you don't crouch in time, eat a 60 dmg 0 frame throw.


Brilliant.

Btw, I'm not even a VF pro. And yes I don't own a PS3 and VF5 because I AM poor and cannot afford to waste $600 just to get one game. However I do travel and look for people that own the game and that is how I know so much about VF and how I get better each day.

Dedication > Money and Online play

[DS]

so really having read that, why the fuck does anyone ever care about the game being 'impossible' or not. It's still VF and it's still possible online. I don't care about lag spikes or that shit, if the majority of time when people with good connections play each other, and good matches result out of that, I don't give a flying fuck because it's still competition that I would not have regardless.



You know what's funny? Those are the same scrubs that won't be there at tournies to support the game. That's what I find funny. If anything, they have no say in the competitive aspect of the game.

[m121akuma]

I'm sorry, I only know like 1 other person who plays VF back home, so this is a blessing for me. Online play > CPU. I'd say it's unfair not to give the online component a fair shake at least. If it sucks, then feel free to bitch, hell, I know I will. But if it ends up turning out well, like most of my online experiences have on XBL, then I will be happy as fuck.

coffee: CRY SUM MOAR!!!!!

[Giza]

Coffee is afraid of spending more money. Even though somehow he got VF5 at half price he still thinks he has full say in telling them all console releases have to be equal.

I can understand were he is coming from. He spent the money and he wants what he payed for. But this is a later release of the game, the xbox people had to wait longer for there version and they do deserve a little more because of it. Sega was showing support for Sony when they released VF5 for it right away. They will probably release a new version of VF5 for the ps3 later on and it will likely have online if this version of VF5 for x360 truly does have online. It isn't a bad thing that Xbox is getting the online fix first, the Playstation people got their Virtua Fighter 5 fix first but you didn't see the Xbox360 owners on SRK yelling about how they wouldn't buy any Sega products if they didn't release Virtua Fighter 5 on it at the same time. Am2 is working on another version of VF5 that is gonna have two more characters and probably be a little more balanced. This version will probably be released on Xbox 360 and playstation 3 at the same time with the same features.

You knew the xbox360 version of VF5 was coming out later and probably would of had more features to make up for the later release. But you went and got the one that came out faster. You got your quick fix of the game and now that the other version details are released... in rumors... you freak out! "OH MY GOD! Its better than the one that came out almost a year ago! WHY!? This is bullshit."

[Gorehound]

Even if the rumors are true...

Can just everybody be happy that a good fighter is going to be online and not some stupid crappy fighter!

There is no such thing as perfection, especially in a fighter!

[coffeerox]

Nice. I think you should take your own advice and stop posting because you're at the point where you're getting gangraped by everyone in this thread.

yeah, but then I read something like this, on another board

bah lol if its online they better patch the ps3 version if not game is getting sold


So theres a lot of players out there like me, that owns the game and feels this is a serious enough situation and I don't even know about them (i had just found that really) It's not just a coffeerox problem, it's a problem that many VF owners, a lot of them outside of this board shares with me. So knowing that, and coming here makes me feel completely level with posting what I post.


You know what's funny? Those are the same scrubs that won't be there at tournies to support the game. That's what I find funny. If anything, they have no say in the competitive aspect of the game.

And do you know what's funny? That you "hardcore" players, think that you have any say at all, when you don't because you don't make up the majority of the population of people who own the game. So they have no say in the competitive aspect of the game, you have no say in how they make the game to sell, because they don't listen to hardcore players, they balance the game how it's supposed to be designed, and put in features that the public wants. After all, that's how SCIII turned out, but it's revision was due to it being the first of it's kind (it was a brand new engine) even VF4 had to be revised into Evo.

[Kobolt]

you fail you ****ot horse fucking ass radish. God damn I hate it when we get people who has neither something to contribute for or against the current argument. Theres no fucking point to be posting some useless shit like that. fucking moron.

Hay guyz whats goin on in this thread? :D

[DS]

And do you know what's funny? That you "hardcore" players, think that you have any say at all, when you don't because you don't make up the majority of the population of people who own the game. So they have no say in the competitive aspect of the game, you have no say in how they make the game to sell, because they don't listen to hardcore players, they balance the game how it's supposed to be designed, and put in features that the public wants. After all, that's how SCIII turned out, but it's revision was due to it being the first of it's kind (it was a brand new engine) even VF4 had to be revised into Evo.


Actually, AM2 doesn't have to listen to the Japanese fanbase because they actually beta test their game to the fullest potential possible. VF isn't a game that is made overnight like an SF game. They actually research their shit and make it as balanced as possible.

Dunno how their beta test policy is, but they actually take Japanese top player's opinions into account. So yeah, they're more than likely listening to the right people. Why do you think loketests exist?

Also, SCIII was garbage. Let us never make mention of this game in the same sentence as VF. VF4 EVO actually added two characters into the game with a few minor tweaks. Final Tuned was the final overhaul the game was given. Unfortunately, it was never released on console in either Japan or America.

[DevilJin 01]

When it all comes down to it...Tekken will overshadow the fuck out of this game again. I like VF but damn does Tekken just take a dump on it everytime in the US.

[coffeerox]

Actually, AM2 doesn't have to listen to the Japanese fanbase because they actually beta test their game to the fullest potential possible. VF isn't a game that is made overnight like an SF game. They actually research their shit and make it as balanced as possible.

Dunno how their beta test policy is, but they actually take Japanese top player's opinions into account. So yeah, they're more than likely listening to the right people. Why do you think loketests exist?

Also, SCIII was garbage. Let us never make mention of this game in the same sentence as VF. VF4 EVO actually added two characters into the game with a few minor tweaks. Final Tuned was the final overhaul the game was given. Unfortunately, it was never released on console in either Japan or America.

they still listen to the majority. Why do you think practice mode is in Tekken 5 DR Online? It's because it was a feature that many critics critcized that wasn't in the game. Regarding balance issues, sure, they might listen to a few top players, each and every one? Nope. They still rely on the majority to figure out exactly what people want in their game so that they'll buy it. Sega listened and it was online. Unfortunately Online isn't something that's in their plans for the PS3.

Btw these 3 following pictures defeat everything that's been said against me in the thread so far.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r91/coffeerox/IMG_0824.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r91/coffeerox/IMG_0823.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r91/coffeerox/IMG_0822.jpg

So from what I gather, is these points right here:

1] The possibility of updating the game is there
2] The capability of adding online (regardless of it playing perfect or not) is there

so that begs the question:

Why did Sega giving this crucial feature (along with many other little features), one that could be put on the PS3, to the 360 ONLY??? Since the info was leaked by an employee in the gaming industry, full details were not disclosed, but we will know come E3 because Sega has said they will spill the beans on what the 360 version will and will not have.

You see what my issue is here? It's that they CAN, and they COULD, if they WANTED TO, that's the problem. It's pretty obvious that other games are being supported by addons, regardless of the game being online or not (like Genji) so Sega should take full advantage of this opportunity and fully update the game, not just update it to Version C and half-ass it for us.

OH, and let me add this. Virtua Tennis for the 360 has online while the PS3 verison doesn't. So still think they aren't discriminating? While other sports games, namely EA's has online feature on both of their titles respective versions.

[General Deamond]

...wow...

[KING]

I don't understand why they're doing this to us. We bought the game and now they're basically saying fuck you Sony gamers. HAHAHAAHAH!!!! i got no problems with that! :lol:



*hugs his 360...*

[KING]

retarded post = retarded answer, I don't give a shit report all you want. I already had a super-dbz sized battle with SRK I don't give a shit if I had another one. Do you realize just him, and that comment, = multiplied by tens of thousands on a board such as teamxbox and the official PS boards? I see so much of that garbage I just can't help but blow up.
then quit coming to this site and save the bitching for someone who gives a shit.



the mods should consider banning you for being an asshat.

[Giza]

Sega doesn't have to give PS3 the equal version. They have the right to support xbox360 more if they want to. Doesn't make that big of a deal to them. Virtua Fighter doesn't sell to well in Japan because most people just play it at the arcades. It doesn't sell too much in America cause just not enough people like it. If they release a new version of VF5 that has online for PS3 a little bit after the xbox360 version, would you be happy? Take in mind, you would have to buy it again.

It probably could be patched through PS3, but really it just isn't worth it because the game didn't really sell huge numbers. Might as well just sell it again with the few new features.

[Gorehound]

Every company is screwing over Sony and its fans, just look at Square Enix, Capcom, and Konami!

They were suppose to have certain games exclusive for PS3, and they just said "Screw That"!!

[coffeerox]

It probably could be patched through PS3, but really it just isn't worth it because the game didn't really sell huge numbers. Might as well just sell it again with the few new features.

it CAN be patched through the PS3. I just showed you through those 3 pictures

It probably could be patched through PS3, but really it just isn't worth it because the game didn't really sell huge numbers.

Why do that? When they can just patch it through PSN, and then charge us like an extra 10 bucks like what Namco is doing? In fact, Oblivion's Shivering Isles is going to be charged for, and Tekken DR is going to end up 29.99 if you didn't buy the original. Either way it's easier and cheaper releasing the patch than to release another version of the game that we know they're going to charge up the ass for.

[Colt Steele]

I was going to buy it for 360 with or without online support anyway, all the Sony people crying foul mystifies me. As if Sony has never been on the receiving end of a later-release, superior or enhanced version of a pre-existing game. Meh.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

coffee: then just sell your game and shut the hell up. It is obvious no one else here shares your lame ass views. really you sound like you are 12. It was 30 dollars you spent, get over it. It really doesn't matter whether i own a ps3 or not ( although i don't cause there is nothing to play on it other than vf5 in my opinion) but it really sounds like you are making a big deal out of nothing. We all knew it would come out for the 360, and we all knew it would have to have at least some changes, barring some sort of catastrophy, it would most likely be better, sans some graphical flare, luckily that was addressed and what we have is a game that may be better in most aspects. you should be happy that the game will get more play and as a result you will get more comp. This whole argument is just dumb cause the solution is for you to play what you have, or purchase what you want or just stop playing and save us all the trouble of listening to you whine. really, take a step back and look at how borderline retarded you sound. To be completely honest it is too early for you to get your panties all in a ruffle cause there is no solid proof that the ps3 will not get some sort of downloadable upgrade in the future, so you may still get more out of what you have yet.

[AlphaDragoon02]

I was going to buy it for 360 with or without online support anyway, all the Sony people crying foul mystifies me. As if Sony has never been on the receiving end of a later-release, superior or enhanced version of a pre-existing game. Meh.

The truth. Sony's got the extra super-cool versions of games before. Quit whining now that it's MS's turn. Or spend the fucking fifty bucks and buy the 360 version Mr. "everyone who doesn't like PS3 must be broke ass niggas". Since you're ballin' outta control it should be no problem for you.

[Gojira]

Hey wow Magic Box. I remember when they broke the incredible news that Sonic was in Super Smash Brothers Melee. What amazing exclusive info do they have for us this time!

[virtuapai]

Coffee, I read everything that was written, and I find that you are upset for no logical reason. It has been stated many times that:

A) You was presented with the choice to to get the early released vf5 for the ps3 or wait for the 360 Version of the game.

B) Any game that is released on another console always get an upgrade due to the fact that it was released later. With point A), you had the choice of waiting or purchasing the ps3 version early... over 8 months in advanced in comparison to the 360 release.

C) Patches are not guaranteed for every game that is released with new content. The choice is left up to the developers. With point A), you had the choice of waiting or purchasing the ps3 version early... over 8 months in advanced in comparison to the 360 release. Also, many of these alleged patches may not even be possible for the ps3. Like it already been stated, PSN will cost more money to operate in comparison to XBL, in conjunction to requiring more work on the developers part in its creation. An online interface will be significantly more easier for the 360. The most you can expect are the character specific changes(and Costume changes) from version C, and maybe the Training mode additions.

I purposely held off from getting a ps3 and VF5 knowing that the 360 version was coming out. And Im quite happy that I made that decision. There is no reason you should be getting upset now. Many of us who love Vf was faced with the same dilemma. Many of us purchased the ps3 version(to play the game early and not lose play time + valuable experience), while many of us waited to get the superior 360 version(while having to play catch up). The fact of the matter, you faced the same dilemma, made your choice, and now you have to deal with it. It is not like sega told anyone of a 360 version after the ps3 release.

[Tigerboi]

Trust me, you're wasting your time trying. Really good effort though.

[DS]

they still listen to the majority. Why do you think practice mode is in Tekken 5 DR Online? It's because it was a feature that many critics critcized that wasn't in the game. Regarding balance issues, sure, they might listen to a few top players, each and every one? Nope. They still rely on the majority to figure out exactly what people want in their game so that they'll buy it. Sega listened and it was online. Unfortunately Online isn't something that's in their plans for the PS3.




Casual gamers don't know SHIT about game balance in a fighting game because they don't sit there and discover the exploits of any fighter. The top players beta test, the developers listen and the game get's tweaked. Game features are more of the casual gamer variety since they buy the game for the extra crap that a lot of us don't care about in the long run.

And the online ordeal still stems from the 360 having a huge userbase in America. Japan is not getting the online version. They don't have any use for it. And again, this is still speculation. You have to wait until AFTER E3 to know what it is that they plan on adding.

Oh, and training mode in DR was added because it made sense to be there. All Tekken games have a training mode. Why not DR?

[ParryAll]

It's clear to me now that Coffeerox is a joke account. Everyones been baited.

[KING]

why isn't he banned?!

[ParryAll]

why isn't he banned?!

15. Trolling is classified as sitting on the forums and posting nothing productive.

I think an infraction is in order. He's probably had plenty of them. Not sure how many infractions constitutes a ban.

We've had our laughs, but I think it's time to close the thread as well. There is a VF5 thread, afterall, but it seems Coffeerox has been taking a dump in that thread too.

[bill_rizer]

I think he's reversed Super Warrior!

:rofl::rofl:

I forgot about that guy, I remember his pure hatred for KOF sprites, he was entertaining.

It's clear to me now that Coffeerox is a joke account. Everyones been baited.

Its too late his already summoned enough Negative Energy to crush SEGA and SONY for their bitter betrayal, that was his plan all along.

For he is BAYTOR!!!!

[coffeerox]

I'm quite satisfied that the fact that I own this game and the PS3 overrides just about all your opinions, especially if I happen to bring it up in a conversation, then say, oh yeah, those guys don't even like VF and they don't even own a PS3 to play it in the first place, and people happen to just laugh their asses off, cause you know, it actually happened.

Never mind the f