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Master Chibi
10-12-2007, 03:21 PM
right-o chap

bring your big breasted sister-incest along

Aion
10-12-2007, 03:26 PM
I originally posted this at Neoempire but thought it might be useful for some peeps here too.

http://www.neoempire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2540

Since people might like vids for specific characters, I'll put them in order. Obviously they'll contain two characters, but depending on who wins will change which character I put the vid under.

Heart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpKEvS5FB_U (featuring Liesolette)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jup5pfabXs4 (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VbNiG8bdIU (featuring Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv48fbfCkvQ (featuring Liesolette)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9i9DB_kVe4 (featuring Saki)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCGbqawPBrQ (mirror match)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0v4mR55dFM (featuring Lilica(x2) & Kamui)

Saki:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SvCWPkYW_0 (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl4DT3afioc (featuring Maori)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wf2sxY2XcY (featuring Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALy9ppqMJ9Y (featuring Fiona, Konoha & Lilica)

Kamui:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2lMKWvDXCY (featuring Heart)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjxRaWus-mU (featuring Fiona)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWo-2GzT8QI (featuring Liesolette, Saki & Mei-Fang)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLGt7wvWUHE (featuring Liesolette & Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmrsO9lqKU (featuring Saki)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9ycg2-3HMg (featuring Kira)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb4gkA3u1Sw (featuring Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeNn2EIvpQA (featuring Mei-Fang)

Konoha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UFsJl6l_To (Mirror match)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjCICvYXFWc (featuring Heart)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeL8JCzL6p8 (featuring Yoriko)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8IeTUvbIpU (featuring Saki)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgtBIYcRNj0 (featuring Fiona(x2) & Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2GBj-43E98 (featuring Yoriko)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PErS8XPfV4Q (featuring Mei-Fang)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFZkeTlhKg (featuring Lilica)

Mei-Fang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3FcMDcT5Po (featuring Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePPieRNvjoo (featuring Saki)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-dy58fziXw (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF9Vm53z250 (featuring Kira)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOiXGt4eeQM (featuring Fiona)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkYtcAv_zao (featuring Lilica)

Maori:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkFy6p0czH4 (featuring Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdePigPx4U (featuring Fiona)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_4Rkwpi0E (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V11NHB-HPHA (featuring Saki)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqHlAPDssU (featuring Yoriko & Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4QexvVx3aI (featuring Kamui, Fiona & Lilica)

Lilica:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a73AYV4ZWtQ (featuring Yoriko)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXbE8zCIx7Q (featuring Saki)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uMT6-xp6y8 (featuring Konoha)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zErd9h0Uzjk (featuring Saki)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZKyybrOEAM (featuring Kira)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET_3rB-Kya8 (featuring Mei-Fang & Liesolette)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yngrvkpy7Tg (featuring Kira)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxV9_GjNfpc (featuring Kira)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caIP8uFmU_4 (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8bcf8cXXZI (featuring Fiona)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya9DLhAiO6o (Mirror match)

Liesolette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqini3JWrXA (featuring Heart)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHy3NmvSpPQ (featuring Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4IjtpQtlQ (featuring Maori)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k-BvY_1bMQ (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSPorxLqZkk (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rghMQkmvfzs (featuring Maori)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7TJQRtW4fk (featuring Konoha)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S6Ag16JwPo (mirror match)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTlOW6wBHE (featuring Maori)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii4hPSmmZH4 (featuring Maori)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzvZaMOqVj8 (featuring Fiona)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_9YYhLA24 (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFMBpHWzhu0 (featuring Kira, Mei-Fang & Fiona)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMu9o9ueLwg (featuring Konoha)

Kira:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqA3h9NMp0 (featuring Mei-Fang)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0dR-9UxUgk (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cTdlr7tYss (featuring Maori)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60aCyKjCeto (featuring Lilica & Liesolette)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdyD_EUz6gM (featuring Heart)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPwBIiVY670 (featuring Heart & Konoha)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L56zq47KZyw (featuring Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKWHiVbXMmQ (featuring Lilica & Heart)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqKRD7h-jE0 (Mirror match)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFWcq7Idg9E (featuring Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZVjho8yAM (featuring Saki)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I01_ZRkaPTA (featuring Maori & Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV__QrCO7PE (featuring Konoha)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04qat_ICy5s (featuring Maori)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMu9o9ueLwg (featuring Fiona & Konoha)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfIV5Ccp4A (featuring Maori)

Yoriko:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Hu4nLZ7jA (featuring Maori)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zis0eSRSuHI (featuring Lilica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmpbSFJv5TU (featuring Saki)

Fiona:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVx8nlRUFYg (featuring Kira)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN8qoicQEYE (featuring Saki)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RI6jPqQWLI (featuring Saki, Kira & Kamui)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GddEDf1Cys (featuring Yoriko & Lilica)



Miscellaneous:
Kamui vs Konoha & Mei-Fang vs Heart

Lilica combo tutorial

Originally posted by Sabin:
Arcana Heart FULL! Post-tourney Casuals @ Alpha Station, Okubo, Japan 9/16/07

Alpha Station Post-Tourney Casuals Okubo, Japan 9/16/07

Densetsu no Otaku (Lieselotte) vs Sabin (Kamui)

Densetsu no Otaku (Kamui) vs Sabin (Heart/Kamui)

Densetsu no Otaku (Kamui/Kira) vs Sabin (Kamui/Heart)

otk_vs_sabin_part_4

OTK vs Sabin Part 5

Damn that took ages I may update this post if need be, and just copy pasta the links that won't hyperlink =]

Edit: Last set of vids under 'miscellaneous' can only be viewed in hyperlink form if you go to my original post on NE, sorry :(

Makoto Scrub
10-12-2007, 03:28 PM
bring your love for big breasted sister/sister incest along
Fixxed.

Spot on ol' bloke.

Shinto
10-12-2007, 03:33 PM
your all scrubs cept me and nas


umm shes got a lot more stuff than one combo but O.K.

I'm sure she do, and I'll figure more than that one combo....which seems like her main one....but I'll find more.....

tataki
10-12-2007, 04:16 PM
it's not the best but still something... copy it to the 1st post

click here for general vids updates (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&search_category=0&search=Search&v=)

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click here for konoha vids updates(someone improve the search plz) (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=%E3%81%93%E3%81%AE%E3%81%AF&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&search_category=0&search=tag&v=&uploaded=)

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Nastrodamus
10-12-2007, 04:19 PM
Huh? Honestly... im the furthest from a guy who play loli fighter (cept melty) .... shit... im not into that stuff really.... but when i was showed the game... the gameplay was fucking sweet.. so i really didn't matter who the charcters were (okay somewhat but it wasn't my basis for playing the game until AFTER i got into it) people really need to get over that OTAKU stigma and just play the damn game... it really is fun as most have i said... i hope a lot of guys still play... so i can whoop dat ass... Nas needs more warriors...

well angelic... as far as i seen in like the newer vids... i wouldn't worry how to extend combos... but like try to deal some decent damage and then knockdown into supers (for lightning and gier, water) like get knockdown call gier super, lightining super, or bubble super and just being n the aggresive all day... likes really unerving to see konoha in your face.. and not only to fuck you up if you make really dumb decisons (like attacking her when lightining, gier, or water is out) cuse the fact that you can hold lighting and gier super, and also hitting a bubble allows her to do more further damage and setup in the same shit again... it's really disheartning to see... i wish knew the combo though... btw lightning super you can hold... same with gier you can hold and let out at any time the difference is lighting you can hold block or hit and gier goes away if you block or get hit...

Nastrodamus
10-12-2007, 04:22 PM
I'm sure she do, and I'll figure more than that one combo....which seems like her main one....but I'll find more.....

dp

hmm...

me-rock fiona

woof- time fiona

chibi- time fiona?

shinto- something fiona



SHINTO FIND AN ARCANA YOU RARELY SEEN PLAYED AND START BEASTING WITH FIONA

WATER FIONA RAWWR

Master Chibi
10-12-2007, 04:24 PM
Actually I'm using wind Fiona ;O

Hyperhal
10-12-2007, 05:37 PM
No seriously, I dunno who you play.

Yoriko

Shinto
10-12-2007, 05:47 PM
Moar Fi fi loving, I plan on playing the normal fire or go completely south and pick plant just for shits and giggles.

Mr. Mamation
10-12-2007, 06:48 PM
yo zach, i know you saw how crappy i am in those vids. Aside from working on not droping combos and doing more guard cancels what should i do.

and how do i not get hit by fiona's standing C. Fucking move, i swear

woof
10-12-2007, 07:00 PM
and how do i not get hit by fiona's standing C. Fucking move, i swear
burn its max range into your brain
stop aggressive airdashin so much lol??? her stand C is v. good at stuffing that shit ez
her stand C has a clash window on startup so maybe you could try dealin with that but of course i dont think you could do much about it considering that fiona has decent clash windows and either straight up wins clash fights or gets out even
if you can bait this move and make her whiff it then she is at an extreme disadvantage!!!

Demon_Hyo
10-12-2007, 07:48 PM
it's not the best but still something... copy it to the 1st post

click here for general vids updates (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&search_category=0&search=Search&v=)

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Thanks for the vids:wink:

Logos
10-12-2007, 07:50 PM
So is there any translated info on the Arcanas somewhere? I'm having trouble figuring out some of the move properties and whatnot.

Angelic Diablo
10-12-2007, 07:51 PM
Well... thanks to absolutely nobody I figured out that I can't do the 623A -> 6D -> 5A mid screen against Kira with Konoha. You can only launch off the 2C -> 6D -> 5A.

For the rookies don't use Kira as a training dummy for Konoha, you'll think your execution is in the shitter.

Shinto
10-12-2007, 07:58 PM
For the rookies don't use Kira as a training dummy for Konoha, you'll think your execution is in the shitter.

lol

Don't practice combos on kira at all, if you do make it short and sweat.Kira has a tendency to drop out of combos quickly due to her weird ass hit box....

Mizuki
10-12-2007, 08:31 PM
This shit is mad boring when you know you ain't gonna have no one to play with until Evo World.

Gorehound
10-12-2007, 08:36 PM
So far so good on the PS2 version since I haven't played the Arcade version in a while!

Anybody dig the music for this game?

Whew, I finally found a copy of the Arcana Heart Mook from a seller I usually buy import gaming stuff, it was his last new copy :tup:

Master Chibi
10-12-2007, 08:38 PM
Anybody dig the music for this game?

Fuck no.

:(

Gasp
10-12-2007, 08:41 PM
gorehound what part of la are you from? maybe we can get some AHF matches in.


anyways the game lockedup on me. i was fighting mildred (2nd form) and when i activated arcana mode (or what ever 236+abc is called) the screen stayed black and kamui just floated there glowing blue.
dont know if it was the game or my hdloader. was weird though.

Gorehound
10-12-2007, 08:59 PM
gorehound what part of la are you from? maybe we can get some AHF matches in.


anyways the game lockedup on me. i was fighting mildred (2nd form) and when i activated arcana mode (or what ever 236+abc is called) the screen stayed black and kamui just floated there glowing blue.
dont know if it was the game or my hdloader. was weird though.

I don't really live in the LA area, but I do live in Riverside county!

You know I had a weird glitch happen facing Mildred as well. When I faced her and she did her super, the super goes into a art portrait of her in the sky launching her beams, then the hit happens. But once only 15% of the art portrait was shown and you could still see your character as well :wow:

HeartNana
10-12-2007, 08:59 PM
Well... thanks to absolutely nobody I figured out that I can't do the 623A -> 6D -> 5A mid screen against Kira with Konoha. You can only launch off the 2C -> 6D -> 5A.

For the rookies don't use Kira as a training dummy for Konoha, you'll think your execution is in the shitter.

sorry that some of us have jobs and lives in those 5 hours that you asked the question.

Don't act like we're all unhelpful cause nobody replied to your post, please. Only a handful of people posting here even play the character anyways or know the game well enough to answer that.

---

The game slows down everytime i do Lilica's super, lol. Makes timing wierd.

Spirit Juice
10-12-2007, 09:05 PM
Ugh. Can anyone help me with the relaunch for Lieselotte's mid-screen loop? I'm doing 2A2BC -> 236C, jump, AD j.B, land, 6B (B doll hits as well) -> JC, j.AB -> j.2C.

I was able to get the doll to hit with the B doll attack after the j.2C a few times in a row, but now I can't get it for shit anymore. Is there a specific timing for it after the j.2C?

HeartNana
10-12-2007, 09:10 PM
try double jumping with j.A a couple more times to increase the height giving more time for the dolls 5C to hit.

Spirit Juice
10-12-2007, 09:33 PM
try double jumping with j.A a couple more times to increase the height giving more time for the dolls 5C to hit.

This is mid-screen, not the corner, so I'm not supposed to be using the doll's C attack for relaunch. It's supposed to be the doll's B attack for the relaunch.

Zee Tee Bee
10-12-2007, 09:46 PM
This is mid-screen, not the corner, so I'm not supposed to be using the doll's C attack for relaunch. It's supposed to be the doll's B attack for the relaunch.
yo....

the trick is to use j[3]b+c. this makes elfriede perform the 2b slash attack which has practically no startup or recovery. then as youre landing from j[3]b+c (which gives you a j2c) hit 5b to make elfriede perform the 5b slash attack for the midscrn loop. elfriede has long since recovered from the 2b attack allowing you to get in that 5b slash at the last second.

...sootkays luv

peace

~zar

suitcase edit: guess i should mention what the [3] is for.

holding 3 will advance friede foward while performing aerial combos. there is a somewhat more effective and faster way to advance 'her' by performing [3] 5, [3] 5, [3] 5, etc. friede advances faster by sprinting at the beginning of the crawl animation then 'she' will decrease the crawling speed. by holding forward for the initial boost of speed then letting 'her' return to neutral and starting it again, you'll notice that friede will advance much faster than just holding [3] or [6].

I have yet to perfect this technique nor do i know if its exactly necessary to use in loops but it is rather interesting imo.

Spirit Juice
10-12-2007, 09:53 PM
I figured it out. I didn't realize that Elfriede had a 2B and a 5B attack. I kept holding 2 down after the j.2C, making Elfriede do 2B as soon as I hit B after the j.2C. Thanks though.

Hyperhal
10-12-2007, 09:53 PM
Fuck no.

:(

Don't act like you don't dig dem VS screen musics

Master Chibi
10-12-2007, 10:01 PM
Don't act like you don't dig dem VS screen musics

Every song in this game is horrible.

There's only one song on the OST I like anyway.

The others are BARF~

HeartNana
10-12-2007, 10:17 PM
This is mid-screen, not the corner, so I'm not supposed to be using the doll's C attack for relaunch. It's supposed to be the doll's B attack for the relaunch.
Man, i totally misread. I know which one you're talking about, and zar pretty much got it. Yeah, ill stick to helping out with characters i know, lawl.

Saotome Kaneda
10-12-2007, 10:27 PM
Does arcana heart work for ps3?
Yes. I'm playing on my HD screen and I haven't really noticed SFAA-level lag.
I figured it out. I didn't realize that Elfriede had a 2B and a 5B attack. I kept holding 2 down after the j.2C, making Elfriede do 2B as soon as I hit B after the j.2C. Thanks though.

Okay, seeing the questions so far for Lise I'm putting out my draft form of the DAT ARCANA FRAMEDATA page.

If someone wants to make it prettier they can suck a dick until I'm done. >=O

j/k if any of our more artistically inclined people(WOOF I'M LOOKING AT YOU MOTHERFUCKER) would like to brighten up that shitty template I have right now hit me up.


My status update from before was wrong, and I lost my latest save so I'm back down to 3.5 chars done. n_n I have Heart, Fiona and Kira-sama done, Sakis normals are 10% done, and everyone's templates are done with all moves accounted for. I still need to slip in the arcanas, although those won't take nearly as long. Between this, work and getting my rank up in T5DR, I'm running on empty, which is why I'm not posting nearly as much as I was. =/ w/e

FallingEdge
10-12-2007, 10:28 PM
Maori's loop:

22A nee-san drop follow up with 5A 5B j.B(half second delay)j.C land 5B j.B(half second delay)j.C and repeat.

I'm having trouble landing that first j.C, it always seems to whiff. After the first 5A 5B, should I jump and immediately press B, or wait? I'm not sure whether that half second delay refers to after the j.B or before .

Getting back to this, I am having problems landing the second 5B j.B. It always seems to whiff and when I do hit the 5B, I can't hit the j.B as I am too far out. Any help with this?

Saotome Kaneda
10-12-2007, 10:30 PM
ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS THE MOOK CAN AT THE VERY LEAST ASSIST IN SLAPPING SOME OF THOSE FUCKING NUMBERS IN FOR ME
MY EYES ARE BURNING



Oh, and for 2 chars their info in the book is reversed for the 6C and 3C columns so I'll have to fix that in my file n_n

BlackShinobi
10-12-2007, 11:53 PM
I can't for the life of me figure out why Konoha isn't more popular, I took one look at her and was like "thats my character". I don't think the popularity of Saki does anything to help the matter though, as she is an uphill battle for konoha.

Also what the hell happened to gier, I mean personally I don't really feel that arcana but I thought More people would be playing with it when they started, oh well.

Also the internet is down at the arcade again so I'm pretty much off SRK during the weekends

My copy of Arcana heart finally shipped from wherever my GF bought it from :arazz:

CrimsonDisaster
10-13-2007, 12:23 AM
Gier seems more complicated than it is.
Same with Konoha. Also nobody wants to play the loli furry.

DS
10-13-2007, 12:43 AM
Yeah, Gier requires lots of timing and lots of setups to be effective. It's something you can't just throw out there. Everyone associates it with high level vids, but that's because those people have been playing the game for a while already. Plus, Gier isn't exactly a long range projectile.

BlackShinobi
10-13-2007, 12:57 AM
Yeah, Gier requires lots of timing and lots of setups to be effective. It's something you can't just throw out there. Everyone associates it with high level vids, but that's because those people have been playing the game for a while already. Plus, Gier isn't exactly a long range projectile.

Well that takes into acount gier's actual gameplay, I'm more refering to that fact that gier is regarded as cheap all over the beginning of the thread and the fact that Arturo uses Gier. SRK doesn't usually pass up a "freebie" like that. everyone has seen how many people have popped into this thread asking who is top tier
in this game. Maybe people are actually listening for once and playing who they like. Which is very surprising.

DS
10-13-2007, 01:16 AM
Well that takes into acount gier's actual gameplay, I'm more refering to that fact that gier is regarded as cheap all over the beginning of the thread and the fact that Arturo uses Gier. SRK doesn't usually pass up a "freebie" like that. everyone has seen how many people have popped into this thread asking who is top tier
in this game. Maybe people are actually listening for once and playing who they like. Which is very surprising.

Well, Gier was only considered cheap at the beginning because no one really knew ANYTHING about the game. There are ways around it and there are a lot of things that beat it out completely. No Arcana dominates the rest.

Nastrodamus
10-13-2007, 05:41 AM
i actually like the music... and hum this shit at work... in a manufacturing plant at all places..


so wait mamation whos playing fiona on ya dog....

why don't stop you being aggresive sometimes... cuse like woof said.. 5C isn't really a joke... like yea i hate spamming just as the next guy... but dosen't mean that move isn't good... for one it's slow as hell.. slow ass recovery... so if manage to get them whiff... or gaurd cancel foward after a blocked one (cuse it isn't air unblockable)... it's kinda rape time for you (aka that's if they didn't decide to HC out of 5C..) be aggresive... but also watch where you are.. cuse fiona has that range... and can easily beat out stuff( actually i find her clashing very decent in this game... saved my life a couple of times..)... it's all about picking your spots wisely... cuse she does has the pokes to keep you out...(5C, 3C, J.B, some others).

oh that's right shazay was playing fiona... hahah good man... good shit shazay..

XAQshinor
10-13-2007, 05:47 AM
yo zach, i know you saw how crappy i am in those vids. Aside from working on not droping combos and doing more guard cancels what should i do.

and how do i not get hit by fiona's standing C. Fucking move, i swear

wat vids? :o

Nastrodamus
10-13-2007, 05:50 AM
wat vids? :o


um there were some vids of him... shazay and buri i think?

Yar1n
10-13-2007, 05:51 AM
standard BnB out of corner
2a2a2b SJC Ja JC JaJc HC j2c 623c ~whatever

Anal Fisting
~Ja JC JaJcXX41236D adJa - reset

Loop Start
~ 5b HC JaJc (2a JC JaJ2c) x3 421any <------------Splash Loop




.....

I can't connect more then one (2a JC JaJ2c). on my second attempt 2a whiffs.

Any tips on how to do that shit?

Thanks!

btw, does anyone knows if it's possible to skip the annoying clip before every match (the one that shows each char and each arcana)?

TornadoFlame
10-13-2007, 06:02 AM
I got dat Arcana

darksoul173
10-13-2007, 06:25 AM
Wind arcana is fucking sweet i love the j2d its just like HNK Toki air 623b and the double airdash too sweet

Nastrodamus
10-13-2007, 06:26 AM
I can't connect more then one (2a JC JaJ2c). on my second attempt 2a whiffs.

Any tips on how to do that shit?

Thanks!

btw, does anyone knows if it's possible to skip the annoying clip before every match (the one that shows each char and each arcana)?

honestly

no... i tried yesterday and yea... i actually don't mind that shit too much... maybe cuse im used to it at the arcade...



TF- WHAT"S GOOD SIR... WHO ARE YOU PLAYIN... also imma be C3 so we can get some matches in arcana heart (possibly a small fee tourney if havoc let's me)

tianyuan
10-13-2007, 06:35 AM
tian we love you, please come back :(

Don't worry, I will be... BACK.


He's with the Basara crowd now.

Son of a bitch :annoy:!


You know I love manly games. 9 guys plus 1 lady (no loli) really makes me HYPE. Okay, let's do Petra mirror match when AH2 comes out okay? I am going to show you the boob power.


haha, was this your conversation with him on MSN or on the arcana bbs? and yeah i didnt play arcana nearly enough when i was in japan, gf really hates games so i had to sneak out to get DAT COMP alot.

Japan was too good for teaching me the fundamentals of DAT ARCANA for sure though. Glad to be back.

dude, arcana heart 1 is still out. Let's play that. :P Then if henry gets AH2/SBX, we can focus on those games. :rofl:


On MSN of course, White, like many Japanese players, do not like to post on bbs. It's too "weary" he said. lol!

Chinese (Shanghai) peeps begin to get into Arcana crack. The KOF98 SBO champ seems delivered the crack home, rofl! Arcana Heart 2 will be more popular this time I hope.

Man I haven't play any fighting games for a long while, I wonder how many seconds I can last against you regular beasts:looney::looney::looney:

Well, I heard ST machine is fixed, I am probably going to CF next Saturday in the afternoon. See you guys later.


What about dat stick? D:

I know I've said it thousands of times already and I'm sorry but I just gotta make sure :(
Having AH at home doesn't mean anything if I can't play it properly...:sad::sad::sad:

Ah, any NYC Arcana regulars want to borrow my PS2 Real Arcade Pro to practice Arlukana at home? I don't need DAT stick until 2008...

Nastrodamus
10-13-2007, 06:54 AM
btw i have this game.. .RODE MY BIKE 30 mins to get my game... but realized my sticks broke.. thank god for UP aka philly having the arcade...

custom stick TYME

someAzNdude
10-13-2007, 07:08 AM
snip

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!
Lets play sum arukana haato together some time :sad:





oh btw, PETRA IS MINE!!! >:(

CoosCoos
10-13-2007, 08:26 AM
Does anyone know if Konoha's 2b is jump cancelable?

Trying to work on something, but if it is, I can't get it to cancel.

BlackShinobi
10-13-2007, 08:38 AM
Does anyone know if Konoha's 2b is jump cancelable?

Trying to work on something, but if it is, I can't get it to cancel.

2B? No.
5B or 6B yes

Fadedsun303
10-13-2007, 08:53 AM
@CoosCoos. Thanks for the Saki and Konoha help. I ended just going with the Lightning Arcana with Saki for now while I still learn the game.

I have a lot more appreciation for this game after actually playing it. Watching it, I always thought, "Those combos look easy". But when it came to actually trying to do them, it was a lot harder than it looked. And watching match videos, the things they're doing are a lot crazier than than I used to think. In conclusion: This game is awesome!

Xorcist
10-13-2007, 08:58 AM
Does anyone provide me with a quick translation of the configuration screen for the PS2? I have no idea what I'm configuring to any of my keys. And if this has already been documented... I can't seem to locate it, so a PM would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Tiggy
10-13-2007, 09:34 AM
Yeah, because like I stated in the irc channel, for the price of the stick + shipping you could get a few of the members of this site to build you a much better custom stick, get your own AH art, and still have money left over to buy extra buttons or something.

OMG...I already made the 'mistake' of buying it then. I wish I would've known sooner. This is what I get for not talking to people. But I will make the most out of it and practice my arse off with my expensive stick :O I might look into getting some custom artwork done on it though. My stick should arrive in the mail Monday.

*May pick up Lieselotte as a second char..vicious corner rush down*

Saotome Kaneda
10-13-2007, 10:05 AM
I can't connect more then one (2a JC JaJ2c). on my second attempt 2a whiffs.

Any tips on how to do that shit?

A little slower than you think. Don't rush it, keep an even rhythm from the 2a. Are you jumping or high jumping? You only need to normal jump. Other than that it's not that hard, it's just goofy timing. I still mess it up now, although that has everything to do with me not playing this game for the majority of the summer. =x

Yar1n
10-13-2007, 10:42 AM
A little slower than you think. Don't rush it, keep an even rhythm from the 2a. Are you jumping or high jumping? You only need to normal jump. Other than that it's not that hard, it's just goofy timing. I still mess it up now, although that has everything to do with me not playing this game for the majority of the summer. =x

Thanks, tbh I got the timing eventually, you need to to jump early but press the A button really late.


I found this combo with that fat loop lol-

2b, 623a, 2a, jA, j2c, 2a, 5b ( 6hc, 2a, jA, j2c, 2a, jA, j2c, 2a, 5b) x1~3

so awesome lol.
but I still need to master the timing.

Oh and btw how do you connect jA,jC after 5b HC? opponent seems to tech ;s maybe the HC is supposed to 7HC ? as I saw in some matchvids.

722
10-13-2007, 11:24 AM
Can someone give me some advice on Heart combos? I've been doing this as my B&B 2ABC combo:

2A->2B->2C, 236A, 6HC, 5A->6B, IAD j.A->j.C, [dash 5C, IAD j.A j.C] x 2, dash 5A, j.A j.B j.4B djc j.B j.2C

I can get this pretty consistently except against Kira (seem to need running momentum, point-blank range and time the 6HC 5A->6B almost perfecly), Yoriko (same, but much easier than Kira) and Saki (haven't gotten it once, but I didn't try very long). Is there some trick I know, or should I just do an easier combo on these characters? Or am I doing a bad combo in the first place?

I hate testing for character specificity in this game, why do they make you watch the versus intro in training mode :P I haven't even begun testing the kooky air-to-air combos on all the characters...

Nastrodamus
10-13-2007, 11:37 AM
Can someone give me some advice on Heart combos? I've been doing this as my B&B 2ABC combo:

2A->2B->2C, 236A, 6HC, 5A->6B, IAD j.A->j.C, [dash 5C, IAD j.A j.C] x 2, dash 5A, j.A j.B j.4B djc j.B j.2C

I can get this pretty consistently except against Kira (seem to need running momentum, point-blank range and time the 6HC 5A->6B almost perfecly), Yoriko (same, but much easier than Kira) and Saki (haven't gotten it once, but I didn't try very long). Is there some trick I know, or should I just do an easier combo on these characters? Or am I doing a bad combo in the first place?

I hate testing for character specificity in this game, why do they make you watch the versus intro in training mode :P I haven't even begun testing the kooky air-to-air combos on all the characters...


pretty much you got it down as far as the heart combo.. i wouldn't worry about kira cuse kira has a weird ass hitbox so some combos won't work on here...proll finish the combo earlier.. with saki.. i dunno i never had a problem gettin combos on her....

someAzNdude
10-13-2007, 11:40 AM
Can someone give me some advice on Heart combos? I've been doing this as my B&B 2ABC combo:

2A->2B->2C, 236A, 6HC, 5A->6B, IAD j.A->j.C, [dash 5C, IAD j.A j.C] x 2, dash 5A, j.A j.B j.4B djc j.B j.2C

I can get this pretty consistently except against Kira (seem to need running momentum, point-blank range and time the 6HC 5A->6B almost perfecly), Yoriko (same, but much easier than Kira) and Saki (haven't gotten it once, but I didn't try very long). Is there some trick I know, or should I just do an easier combo on these characters? Or am I doing a bad combo in the first place?

I hate testing for character specificity in this game, why do they make you watch the versus intro in training mode :P I haven't even begun testing the kooky air-to-air combos on all the characters...

Thats actually a good combo
But in some situations you might not want to add the 236A after the 2C as it might push the opponent too far away to follow up, ESPECIALLY against Kira.

722
10-13-2007, 11:51 AM
Aha, I never thought to remove the 236A. Thanks guys.

woof
10-13-2007, 11:52 AM
vs kira dont just cop out with "ok i wont do combos"

keep in mind her hitbox moves back when you land a hit on her so you have to keep track of the moves that cause the most pushback and you might have to HC6 slightly longer in comparison to the rest of the cast

Dark Geese
10-13-2007, 12:13 PM
I'll be in on this madness in a couple of weeks stay tuned! I'm hunting ALL you fools down!!

:devil:

-Dark Geese

Biolink
10-13-2007, 12:13 PM
I can't believe that Arcana heart 2 will likely be here next year :arazz:

They must have known we would import,so instead of playing the same game,they create a new game.

Oh and I look forward to the Dark Geese madness.

XAQshinor
10-13-2007, 12:21 PM
um there were some vids of him... shazay and buri i think?

i didnt see em :x

Fadedsun303
10-13-2007, 12:36 PM
I can't believe that Arcana heart 2 will likely be here next year :arazz:

They must have known we would import,so instead of playing the same game,they create a new game.

Oh and I look forward to the Dark Geese madness.

They did know. That's why everything in the game is in Japanese, EXCEPT for the training mode menu.

Farpenoodle
10-13-2007, 01:00 PM
If someone wants to make it prettier they can suck a dick until I'm done. >=O

j/k if any of our more artistically inclined people(WOOF I'M LOOKING AT YOU MOTHERFUCKER) would like to brighten up that shitty template I have right now hit me up.


I got bored. I still don't have the game yet. :annoy:

So I made this (http://www.farpnut.net/arcana/index.html). Some of the colors could use adjusting though. Anyway I'm going to bed. Rawr.

Mr. Mamation
10-13-2007, 01:27 PM
Don't worry, I will be... BACK.




You know I love manly games. 9 guys plus 1 lady (no loli) really makes me HYPE. Okay, let's do Petra mirror match when AH2 comes out okay? I am going to show you the boob power.




On MSN of course, White, like many Japanese players, do not like to post on bbs. It's too "weary" he said. lol!

Chinese (Shanghai) peeps begin to get into Arcana crack. The KOF98 SBO champ seems delivered the crack home, rofl! Arcana Heart 2 will be more popular this time I hope.

Man I haven't play any fighting games for a long while, I wonder how many seconds I can last against you regular beasts:looney::looney::looney:

Well, I heard ST machine is fixed, I am probably going to CF next Saturday in the afternoon. See you guys later.




Ah, any NYC Arcana regulars want to borrow my PS2 Real Arcade Pro to practice Arlukana at home? I don't need DAT stick until 2008...

you are playing this game too?

Mr. Mamation
10-13-2007, 01:30 PM
i didnt see em :x

o, maybe eli didnt send them to you yet

Biolink
10-13-2007, 01:30 PM
Why do peeps around here call Arcana crack :confused:

It's an awesome game,but dayum :looney:

hanz0
10-13-2007, 01:30 PM
haaa.... im getting the hang of this too bad ill never ever play a real opponent as im the only Mexico Arcana player :sad::sad::sad:

DS
10-13-2007, 01:32 PM
I'll be in on this madness in a couple of weeks stay tuned! I'm hunting ALL you fools down!!

:devil:

-Dark Geese

Best of luck with that. WE RUNNING YOU OVER NIGGA! NYC!!! WHAT IS GOOD?!

I can't believe that Arcana heart 2 will likely be here next year :arazz:

They must have known we would import,so instead of playing the same game,they create a new game.


No, they created a new one because of SBO. New games are always the business of the day when it comes to SBO. That's how they roll, I guess.

Why do peeps around here call Arcana crack :confused:

It's an awesome game,but dayum :looney:

Son, this shit IS crack. You just suck at it.

Gorehound
10-13-2007, 01:44 PM
I'll be in on this madness in a couple of weeks stay tuned! I'm hunting ALL you fools down!!

:devil:

-Dark Geese

YES!!!

We need all the Arcana support, maybe we might get the Capcom fanboys to join is as well :tup:

HeLGeN-X
10-13-2007, 01:56 PM
Hello.

Aion
10-13-2007, 03:00 PM
I'm getting sick of watching Liesolette win almost every match I see her in :annoy:

Spirit Juice
10-13-2007, 03:04 PM
I'm getting sick of watching Liesolette win almost every match I see her in :annoy:

Bow to her awesomeness. She's like Eddie and #R Dizzy combined.

Aion
10-13-2007, 03:43 PM
Bow to her awesomeness. She's like Eddie and #R Dizzy combined.
I refuse :mad:

Btw, does anyone know where I can find the official art for each character? There's something I need to do.

Biolink
10-13-2007, 04:34 PM
Son, this shit IS crack. You just suck at it.

For now nigga.For now

krost
10-13-2007, 04:40 PM
maybe we might get the Capcom fanboys to join is as well :tup:

I'm giving in to the hype.

Saki is great, so is Konoha. Also, Traning Mode.

hanz0
10-13-2007, 04:45 PM
yes konoha rules:lovin: so far am loving the lilica combos too:lovin:

Biolink
10-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Yeah I agree.

Konoha is sex.

Gasp
10-13-2007, 05:02 PM
marvel is that old crack arcana is DAT crack 2.0

Tr@pzt@r
10-13-2007, 05:09 PM
yo this is a hella fun game, but wheres the Mei fang love at?

Biolink
10-13-2007, 05:12 PM
yo this is a hella fun game, but wheres the Mei fang love at?

She got a big 'ole ass

DS
10-13-2007, 05:15 PM
yo this is a hella fun game, but wheres the Mei fang love at?

6B ish unbrockable.

someAzNdude
10-13-2007, 05:26 PM
LOL I discovered a glitch in the PS2 version
pick steel arcana and do arcana activate (ABC) do charged 3C on the opponent and cancel into 236ABC, the opponent will get launched into the air while you summon the dragon and then both characters will FREEZE...I tried this with 2 different characters...I wonder if this works in the arcade version... >_>

Tr@pzt@r
10-13-2007, 05:35 PM
She got a big 'ole ass

i know that bitch is one stacked robot >.>.....Why Japan?? WHYYY!!!

6B ish unbrockable.

i know its a great AA :lol: but where are all the Mei Fang players at? :confused: i know someone besides myself plays this robo bitch!!!

o and does mei fang remind anybody else of a Jam Chun-Li mix? :wonder:

Zakuta
10-13-2007, 05:52 PM
I'm at crossroads now, I really REALLY like Saki, Mei Fang and Kamui. All these characters have something I like about 'em but I can't choose one over the other :s

Spent the last few hours practicing one combo with Mei Fang - I finally got the timing so I don't think I have to practice it much anymore now. Just need to advance on mid-screen looping. 6B is the best move evar~

Though if I want to unleash the combo fiend in me I'd probably pick Saki instead. I think she has the best looking combos in the game. 5B -> 5C all day every day...

Kamui's combos lack the speed, but her ground work is a lot better I feel. I like her standard looking crap better and I find her fun to use.

Maybe I should throw dice to select a character =p

Akuma4Real
10-13-2007, 05:55 PM
Mei-Fang actually reminds me of someone I know.... :sweat:

But I see what you see there. I use Mei-Fang, she's actually one of my favorites. I just don't play her that well yet. I had no idea 6B had such properties, I use it as my ghetto combo after 236A,HC...

Sabin
10-13-2007, 06:42 PM
gg's to everyone at cf in DAT ARCANA last night. Our region is too strong in this game right now :lovin: dats why we need to keep that gap huge with DEM SESSIONS so i can show you that anti-trap stuff that i learned from the far east.

Dark Geese, you're late to the ARCANA PARTY son. Good shit tho. :lovin:

Mr. Mamation: tian is OG arcana actually, now u know.

Sabin
10-13-2007, 06:43 PM
o yea, everyone in this thread needs to hop on DAT EFNET #Arcana on irc - we have 40+ ppl in the channel on a regular basis now, so the channel is BLOWIN UP with that AH lovin all the time. :lovin:

DS
10-13-2007, 06:47 PM
gg's to everyone at cf in DAT ARCANA last night. Our region is too strong in this game right now :lovin: dats why we need to keep that gap huge with DEM SESSIONS so i can show you that anti-trap stuff that i learned from the far east.


We need a stable place for THEM SECRET SESSIONS!!! OMG HOARD TACTICS!

722
10-13-2007, 07:08 PM
Blah, the two Heart combos I can get to work consistently on Kira are big fat damage compromises:

2A->2B->2C, HC, 5A->6B, IAD j.B, dash, 5A->5C, IAD j.A j.C, dash, 5A, j.A j.B j.4B, djc, j.B j.2C

around 7700

2A->2B->2C, HC, 5A, j.B, djc, airdash, j.B, j.C, land, dash, 5C, IAD, j.A j.C, dash, 5A, j.A j.B j.4B, djc, j.B j.2C

Around 8300, seems more consistent but maybe more difficult... I ganked the beginning of this one from a vid, but instead of doing for the dash 5C, IAD, etc... he just jumped back up and did some three-hit air chain into the dragon punch super. I hope he was doing that for some kind of mixup followup or burst bait or whatever, and not because the combo I came up with is inconsistent :/

Standard combo does 8954 ;-; I bet all her stuff works just fine and dandy on Heart

Dark Geese
10-13-2007, 07:15 PM
Arturo- Yeah I know I'm late...but as a console player I'm ALWAYS LATE!!

But that dont stop me from getting the job done...:rofl: :lol: NEVER HAS!! :smokin: So watch out..I'm hitting this shit hardcore like a Hot Latin Stripper in 2.5 weeks...

I may be a beginner now..but uh oh..come FRXI...NYC Might be in TROUBLE!!!!!!!!!!

Deathscythe- Remember I've not only seen your vids (NYC) but unlike Emil I'VE SEEN YOU ALL PLAY IN PERSON. Plus yes I have PLAYED THE GAME AT CF lol.

:rofl: :lol:

If anything in this game resembles SNK..ITS OVER.. (Kamui-Yumeji?) :rofl: :lol: :lol:

-Dark Geese

DS
10-13-2007, 07:31 PM
Deathscythe- Remember I've not only seen your vids (NYC) but unlike Emil I'VE SEEN YOU ALL PLAY IN PERSON. Plus yes I have PLAYED THE GAME AT CF lol.

You never saw me play. So.......HAH!

If anything in this game resembles SNK..ITS OVER.. (Kamui-Yumeji?) :rofl: :lol: :lol:

-Dark Geese

It doesn't. So yeah.....GIVE IT UP!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAAH! Get hype.

Just play Fiona. Spam 5C.

Shinto
10-13-2007, 07:35 PM
Quick Question:

Who plays with pad and who plays with arcade sticks?

Dark Geese
10-13-2007, 07:44 PM
I am the INFAMOUS PAD WARRIOR.

(Saturn Ps2 Pad FO' LIFE BABY!) Almost the antithesis of the Arcade player..Home Grown Assassin...

But proof Pads can get the job done...

My Arcana Heart 'Bible' is almost complete!!!!!!

"Bible Study" will begin in 2 weeks!! :rofl: :lol:

ReXXXSoprano
10-13-2007, 08:02 PM
Quick Question:

Who plays with pad and who plays with arcade sticks?

I'm ambidextrous. But I prefer a stick. Best to learn both. Never know what situation may arise.

Fatal K.O
10-13-2007, 08:06 PM
Lol, think I need to pick one or the other and stay with it... for Arcana I can do combos easier on stick, but I move much more efficiently with a pad. dunno how many times I've been cussing over Ken and his Maori shit because I'm IADing in THE WRONG DIRECTION.

Dark Geese
10-13-2007, 08:21 PM
Bitches my Arcana will be waiting for me when I get back from Mexico this next Monday..that gives me ONE MONTH to get ready.....


GET HYPE...

Random123456789
10-13-2007, 09:11 PM
Bitches my Arcana will be waiting for me when I get back from Mexico this coming Monday..that gives me ONE MONTH to get ready.....


GET HYPE...

This should be interesting. Your Kamui against mine for some fun casuals the next time you're in Chicago?:wgrin:

Dark Geese
10-13-2007, 09:15 PM
Deal...and I assume Full will be the version in the tournament certainly....

Doesnt matter..I've seen Arturo play Gier Kamui and I recall what I saw so its itme to put the memory to usage this coming NEC8!

And of course by EVO North shall be hella interesting...

Mr. Mamation
10-13-2007, 09:24 PM
i know that bitch is one stacked robot >.>.....Why Japan?? WHYYY!!!



i know its a great AA :lol: but where are all the Mei Fang players at? :confused: i know someone besides myself plays this robo bitch!!!

o and does mei fang remind anybody else of a Jam Chun-Li mix? :wonder:

yes to all those and zach and i play her.

speaking of mei feng does anyone have any tips on getting in on kamui? Her range and air attacks are killing me man. i cant seem to go over her or through her. It would probably help if i did a better block string im sure.

Mr. Mamation
10-13-2007, 09:28 PM
gg's to everyone at cf in DAT ARCANA last night. Our region is too strong in this game right now :lovin: dats why we need to keep that gap huge with DEM SESSIONS so i can show you that anti-trap stuff that i learned from the far east.

Dark Geese, you're late to the ARCANA PARTY son. Good shit tho. :lovin:

Mr. Mamation: tian is OG arcana actually, now u know.
i see i see
its a lot like hnk which is why i like it (mei fang combos are almost identical to rei). so i see why he likes it.

o yea, everyone in this thread needs to hop on DAT EFNET #Arcana on irc - we have 40+ ppl in the channel on a regular basis now, so the channel is BLOWIN UP with that AH lovin all the time. :lovin:

i would love to try but my internets keeps going in and out. I'll try though

Saotome Kaneda
10-13-2007, 10:20 PM
I found this combo with that fat loop lol-

2b, 623a, 2a, jA, j2c, 2a, 5b ( 6hc, 2a, jA, j2c, 2a, jA, j2c, 2a, 5b) x1~3
That is the full loop. You can do it as many times as you have Homing meter. The reason why I told you that alternate setup is because you don't need to use Rocket Launch(623button) to get it going. You can use that Rocket Launch later on to save you a Homing stock for an extra rep. And remember when you're out of stock to finish it with 2B 421button for pressure, as no one likes being right in front of Kira at slight disadvantage. Or if you have a good arcana(since you'll have shitloads of meter by this point just combo into it somehow(usually 5B if you have Rock).

Oh and btw how do you connect jA,jC after 5b HC? opponent seems to tech ;s maybe the HC is supposed to 7HC ? as I saw in some matchvids.
What I do is do it with 5D but wait slightly longer after the hit so it tracks them as they bounce. This is the harder version to start the loop/keep it going but it helps if you have an Arcana with a fucked up 6HC(Rock/Time).

I got bored. I still don't have the game yet. :annoy:

So I made this (http://www.farpnut.net/arcana/index.html). Some of the colors could use adjusting though. Anyway I'm going to bed. Rawr.

SEE MOTHERFUCKERS? THIS IS THE SHIT I'M FUCKING TALKING ABOUT
o yea, everyone in this thread needs to hop on DAT GUARDCRUSH.NET/FORUMS - we have char specific areas and a cleaner interface than SRK for DAT CRACK, so come on down and get some of DAT ARCANA luv :lovin:

FTFY

Angelic Diablo
10-13-2007, 11:01 PM
Just got back from the first console AH tourney in my local area. The one major difficulty I found was trying to break through all the clutter that Maori threw out. Does anyone have any recommendations on how Kohona could get in? I was basically left to teleport hoping to pick a spot and pressure my opponent.

BlackShinobi
10-14-2007, 01:01 AM
Just got back from the first console AH tourney in my local area. The one major difficulty I found was trying to break through all the clutter that Maori threw out. Does anyone have any recommendations on how Kohona could get in? I was basically left to teleport hoping to pick a spot and pressure my opponent.

I'll see if Hyperhal ever put up the other matches of me vs Ken from last week, not the one where I get destroyed, but the ones where I win or its close.
Konoha's best bet is dashing and homing dashing. I've tried using everything to get in on maori teleporting, countering, traveling underground but nothing works as good as just heading at her SMARTLY. Keep an eye on which sister she has just called out and you'll have an open space to aim for and keep an Eye out for the other sisters while you're moving. You can also aim your homing dash enough with the joystick to dodge one of origami riding sisters without breaking your homing dash if you do it right.

And don't forget konoha has ground and air projectiles of her own
Oh and whatever you do don't let your guard down once you get in on her. Maori has almost as many tricks up her sleeve as konoha and a loop that hurts like hell and starts off of what seems like everything.



:lovin: TODAY WAS CHRISTMAS AT MY PLACE :lovin:
My arcana finally came today and I got to open all at once
- 1 brand new shiny silver Japanese PS2 :lovin:
- 1 new copy of Arcana heart :lovin:
- And 1 New Custom Joystick :lovin:

Superking
10-14-2007, 01:35 AM
I just approved new people. Everybody dance.

Demon_Hyo
10-14-2007, 01:47 AM
Quick Question:

Who plays with pad and who plays with arcade sticks?

I play with Pad it's not that bad actually. I got used to it quickly. Saved me money:rofl:

Kayin
10-14-2007, 02:05 AM
I tried playing on pad, I went back to stick right away. :V

Doren2k
10-14-2007, 02:37 AM
I play on pad and im awesome. Maybe because its me the best Jam alive and I can do unbelievable things.

Demon_Hyo
10-14-2007, 02:38 AM
Mvc2 >>>> Arcana



That is all.....

IMPOSSIBLE.... Marvel is old and played out! Learn something new 4 once.:arazz:

DS
10-14-2007, 02:46 AM
I play on pad and im awesome. Maybe because its me the best Jam alive and I can do unbelievable things.

If you button macro in GG, you ain't nothing special.

Doren2k
10-14-2007, 02:48 AM
I don't map in guilty gear. Son are you serious! Im deeply offended by this accusation(i can't spell :(. )

kenmastersX
10-14-2007, 05:01 AM
If you button macro in GG, you ain't nothing special.

I personally don't have much of an offense to this myself, since roman cancelling is hard for some people, or they didn't train their thumb to RC/FRC. I have though, and everyone still wonders how I played pad Johnny. :o

The ones that are using it are learning a different timing for FRCs though, that button macros is a frame late I believe.

Anyway, this is an Arcana thread. :o I'm trying to mess with Fire Konoha, she seems fun so far.

Silent Shinobi
10-14-2007, 06:57 AM
Anyway, this is an Arcana thread. :o I'm trying to mess with Fire Konoha, she seems fun so far.

If you bring her to SE-R, Ima be sad...:sad::sad:

Fuck being sad, she is fun to play tho, just meh for damage sometimes.

kaworu_scott
10-14-2007, 07:10 AM
Does anyone have the notation for hearts main IAD combo?

I know it's 2A, 2B, 2C, dash punch special, homing cancel kick of some sorts, IAD, 2 air hits, 5C, IAD 2 air hits etc

I just don't know exactly how to do it, when I do the homing cancel she does a little hop....help?

Shinto
10-14-2007, 07:27 AM
Does anyone have the notation for hearts main IAD combo?

I know it's 2A, 2B, 2C, dash punch special, homing cancel kick of some sorts, IAD, 2 air hits, 5C, IAD 2 air hits etc

I just don't know exactly how to do it, when I do the homing cancel she does a little hop....help?

Your suppose to 6D

If your opponent in the corner you can do 2a 2b 2c 236b 6D 5b 5c 236b 6D 5c IAD a c (land) 5c......

Sugarmilktea
10-14-2007, 07:50 AM
Does anyone have the notation for hearts main IAD combo?

I know it's 2A, 2B, 2C, dash punch special, homing cancel kick of some sorts, IAD, 2 air hits, 5C, IAD 2 air hits etc

I just don't know exactly how to do it, when I do the homing cancel she does a little hop....help?

easy iad combo is 2abc, 236a, 6D, A,C iad B, 6B, iad b, C, iad b4b, aerial combo

ac loop is 2abc, 236a, 6D, a, 6b, [iad AC, 66C] x2, iad AC, a, aerial combo

Master Chibi
10-14-2007, 08:19 AM
So Justin won the tournie in Long Island.

None of us have a clue as to what the fuck we're doing yet.

Meh.

someAzNdude
10-14-2007, 08:35 AM
So Justin won the tournie in Long Island.

None of us have a clue as to what the fuck we're doing yet.

Meh.

D:
WHAT?!?!?!
FOR AH????
OMFG lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl::sweat: :rofl::looney::rofl::confused::wonder::sweat::sad:

Biolink
10-14-2007, 08:41 AM
So Justin won the tournie in Long Island.

None of us have a clue as to what the fuck we're doing yet.

Meh.

Unbelievable :confused:

Master Chibi
10-14-2007, 08:42 AM
I don't get what's so funny.

It was myself, Joe, Zar, Zaelar, Noel(?notsure) and Makoto_Scrub.

@ Biolink:

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

NONE OF US KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING YET.

Shit, motherfuckers getting cocky like we really understand this game yet.

Biolink
10-14-2007, 08:46 AM
Stop jumping to conclusions.I read over the part that said

"None of us have a clue as to what the fuck we're doing yet."

No need to having a fucking baby

hanz0
10-14-2007, 08:48 AM
Unbelievable :confused:

am with you my brotha, Im sticking to konoha:lovin: shes just too awesome:lovin:

Biolink
10-14-2007, 08:50 AM
am with you my brotha, Im sticking to konoha:lovin: shes just too awesome:lovin:

Yeah,I'm doing a run through with her right now :lovin:

She's fun to play against,but even the computer is annoying to fight against when they have her

someAzNdude
10-14-2007, 09:00 AM
I don't get what's so funny.

It was myself, Joe, Zar, Zaelar, Noel(?notsure) and Makoto_Scrub.



Oh damn only you guys entered?
I wasn't making fun of your loss just that I was surprised to see Justin entering and winning it...:looney:
Well all there is left to do is to STEP DAT SHIT UP:lovin:

Angelic Diablo
10-14-2007, 09:02 AM
Did anyone tape the LI tourney? What character does JUSTIN WONG use? Can everyone drop everything they have learned in the last 3 days and do what JUSTIN WONG does?

(sarcasm, relax)

Anyone want to put down money Sanford and Yipes learn this game considering they're execution whores and Demon Hyo runs off to some other game?

(not sarcasm)

Master Chibi
10-14-2007, 09:06 AM
Ok my bad, some corrections on my part :rofl:.

I believe Joe actually won, then that Kamui player, then Justin. There was six people that entered.

Damn, you can tell I didn't get enough sleep.

:looney:

someAzNdude
10-14-2007, 09:24 AM
Ok my bad, some corrections on my part :rofl:.

I believe Joe actually won, then that Kamui player, then Justin. There was six people that entered.

Damn, you can tell I didn't get enough sleep.

:looney:

lmao, how you get that mixed up? :rofl:
But good shit to Joe, dat up and coming Liese player :lovin:
btw what characters did you all use, and did anyone get any vids of the tourney?

Dark Geese
10-14-2007, 09:27 AM
Either that or he wanted to startle everyone and catch them off guard saying Justin won..rofl:

Good shit..you DID startle most people into saying "Not another game Justins good at."

All be damn if you dont like the kid winning DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT..like when I start winning Arcana...DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. :rofl: :lol: :wgrin:

:lovin:

Master Chibi
10-14-2007, 09:31 AM
lmao, how you get that mixed up? :rofl:
But good shit to Joe, dat up and coming Liese player :lovin:
btw what characters did you all use, and did anyone get any vids of the tourney?

I didn't stick around for finals because I was all over the place ;p.

Joe used Saki (Lightning).
Makoto used Maori (who cares).
Zaelar used Konoha (Gier).
Justin used Konoha (Gier).
Kamui player Kamui (Rock).
Zar used Lise (Poison).
I used Fiona (Wind).

:looney:

Demon_Hyo
10-14-2007, 09:31 AM
Well last night at UP was some good Arcana training. Yea, I know we could've played console but not everyone has a stick yet, and so far I'm like the only one who can actually play on PAD. It was me, Dave, Nas, Nas's friend Randal, and BlackShinobi. We had some fun battles and our knowledge of the game grew a lot more. Also, after playing Saki for like 2 months it gets pretty boring even though she's good, so I'm definitely going to learn Heart and someone else now.

Win streaks I remember that day:
Nas 8 wins
BlackShinobi: I think 6 wins
Dave had like: 5 wins
I had: 41 wins

Nas has a GODLIKE FIONA and the best one I've seen playing the game so far. Yes I've seen many Fiona's but playing that man's Fiona is scary. He has that RAW POWER!!!!! I can't forget when he owned me with that dam super after wall tech. OMG I'm never teching on you again! O.O U survived with like 0pixels of life lol! Good stuff though yo.

BlackShinobi's Konoha is truly a REAL NINJA and way better than crummy ol naruto lol! So dam fast and annoying!!! I love the funny trash talk between him and Nas about the knights and the ninjas ROFL! But yea, he's very dangerous and keeps your mind racing. Fear the doggie ninja!

Dave still has the best lilica here so far, as he's the only one who can actually do that loop and cause major damage. But that Kamui of his is OUCH! So much dam damage!!!! I got owned a few rounds by it but with pride lol!

Overall we had some REALLY CLOSE and great matches that day it was so much fun! HYPERHAL NEEDS TO GET SWAP MAGIC AND A STICK! Get that pentagram going bro!

Anakron
10-14-2007, 09:35 AM
Ok my bad, some corrections on my part :rofl:.

I believe Joe actually won, then that Kamui player, then Justin. There was six people that entered.

Damn, you can tell I didn't get enough sleep.

:looney:
Of course he won. He got Liese's shit down, that's why. Good shit!

BTW, I'm going to be the first to pull off splash loop at CF. BET IT.

Master Chibi
10-14-2007, 09:41 AM
Joe used SAKI not Liese. He was doing the advanced loop though (with the up down kick in the corner and what not).

:P

XAQshinor
10-14-2007, 09:42 AM
Of course he won. He got Liese's shit down, that's why. Good shit!

BTW, I'm going to be the first to pull off splash loop at CF. BET IT.

sorry mang, akito( OGest AH cf player ever ) did that shit waaaaaaaaay before u :looney:

Anakron
10-14-2007, 09:43 AM
sorry mang, akito( OGest AH cf player ever ) did that shit waaaaaaaaay before u :looney:

Thank for telling me that. I just died inside. At least there's still the boot loop (new Kira loop).

DS
10-14-2007, 09:59 AM
like when I start winning Arcana...DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. :rofl: :lol: :wgrin:

:lovin:


Well, the most we can do is switch to a different Arcana. The game doesn't let winners switch characters. HYPE!!!!!!

Man, doing Lilica loop must hurt on pad.

Hyperhal
10-14-2007, 10:35 AM
I finished all of Yoriko's special/super descriptions for the wiki, and I'm gonna try and get her strategy section started sometime today. I'm also making a video of all the Yoriko combos/good things you should be doing in matches(using random arcana footage of course).

DS
10-14-2007, 10:51 AM
Win streaks I remember that day:
Nas 8 wins
BlackShinobi: I think 6 wins
Dave had like: 5 wins
I had: 41 wins


So, what's good with that 5v5? Loops for all of Philly.

Hyperhal
10-14-2007, 10:52 AM
So, what's good with that 5v5? Loops for all of Philly.

What 5v5? NYC has more than two people that are good at this game? News to me

Nagata Lock II
10-14-2007, 11:10 AM
Was there a soundtrack or anything released for this game? I'm actually gunning for the pre fight music as I wouldn't mind turning a MP3 into a ringtone on my cell phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

tataki
10-14-2007, 11:55 AM
ok i give up who is the easiest character in the game in execution?

DS
10-14-2007, 12:02 PM
What 5v5? NYC has more than two people that are good at this game? News to me

Weak trash talk. Step it up, Hal.

Hyperhal
10-14-2007, 12:02 PM
Fiona

http://www.sendspace.com/file/cn32vy - AH Soundtrack containing both OST and AST.

Uploading is not fun. :(

Nagata Lock II
10-14-2007, 12:05 PM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cn32vy - AH Soundtrack containing both OST and AST.
:tup: Big thanks man :tup:

Bay 6
10-14-2007, 12:10 PM
Is the timer in AH and AH:FULL both purple on the arcade version? I've seen both blue and purple on youtube vids and was wondering if there was a difference...

Makoto Scrub
10-14-2007, 12:25 PM
Makoto used Maori (who cares).

Dont you disrespect teh miko bubz. :annoy:

tataki
10-14-2007, 12:46 PM
blue timer is ah purple is ahf

Nastrodamus
10-14-2007, 01:10 PM
yea i think philly got they 5 set up... although it might change in the near future...


and DS... what loops SON!!! bring dat shit

RAW POWER FOR EVERYONE!!!!

kesh!
10-14-2007, 01:32 PM
I'm about to start reading through this thread, but just in case; Is there any good place with Lies' combos/loops? any BNBs? I'll sift through and see if I can find anything good.

kenmastersX
10-14-2007, 01:35 PM
If you bring her to SE-R, Ima be sad...:sad::sad:

Fuck being sad, she is fun to play tho, just meh for damage sometimes.

My main will be Saki, at least for SER. :) Don't worry, you'll get to see a few things.

Luigi-Bo 87
10-14-2007, 01:35 PM
I like this game. It plays like BBB in a sense, but not as crazy imo. I like Lilica beaause she reminds me of Maki, Kamui because I like sword chicks (Senna ftw), and Saki because she's gangsta. For Saki, is it a good idea to use her tk dp move (b version) as a cross-up?

FallingEdge
10-14-2007, 01:53 PM
Maori's loop:

22A nee-san drop follow up with 5A 5B j.B(half second delay)j.C land 5B j.B(half second delay)j.C and repeat.

I'm having trouble landing that first j.C, it always seems to whiff. After the first 5A 5B, should I jump and immediately press B, or wait? I'm not sure whether that half second delay refers to after the j.B or before .

Getting back to this, I am having problems landing the second 5B j.B. It always seems to whiff and when I do hit the 5B, I can't hit the j.B as I am too far out. Any help with this?

Anyone?

js2756
10-14-2007, 02:02 PM
Anyone?

delay is in between the j. B and j. C, you want to do the j. B very soon after 5B. I'm also in the same boat (I can pull off the three reps sometimes though), but it feels like the j. B to j. C is a link rather than a chain.

Yar1n
10-14-2007, 03:49 PM
I found this combo with that fat loop lol-

2b, 623a, 2a, jA, j2c, 2a, 5b ( 6hc, 2a, jA, j2c, 2a, jA, j2c, 2a, 5b) x1~3


I just found out that if you are planning to use one homing gauge for the combo you better do this one-

2B ,623A ,5B ,5C ,6HC 2A (jA jC)x2 5a, 5a jA JC jA jB xx lightning / gier super
note: the first jA needs to be done late like in the splash loop to get this work.

does slightly more damage and really easy and you got yourself a lightning storm/gier super for mixups

I also saw in vids HC the last jC to jA landing and doing another two reps of jA ,jC
I tried that but I still can get it done, gotta work on that.

SK, do u know what I'm talking about? and if so got any tips on doing that shit? :lovin:

Aion
10-14-2007, 06:48 PM
Arcana has begun invading the UK too! http://www.neoempire.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=66

Now it's only a matter of time before the world is taken over...

Farpenoodle
10-14-2007, 07:05 PM
I like this game. It plays like BBB in a sense, but not as crazy imo. I like Lilica beaause she reminds me of Maki, Kamui because I like sword chicks (Senna ftw), and Saki because she's gangsta. For Saki, is it a good idea to use her tk dp move (b version) as a cross-up?

Not as crazy as BBB? This game is WAAAAAAAAY more crazy. :looney:

As for TKing her DP it's really not worth it. You can't combo from it and I think it might be unsafe. But it does work as a crossup. You're probably better off just doing IADs with j.B j.C or j.3C. :p

Luigi-Bo 87
10-14-2007, 07:14 PM
Not as crazy as BBB? This game is WAAAAAAAAY more crazy. :looney:

As for TKing her DP it's really not worth it. You can't combo from it and I think it might be unsafe. But it does work as a crossup. You're probably better off just doing IADs with j.B j.C or j.3C. :p

Yea, I gotta drill the fact that her j.3c doesn't have the same angle as Akuma's kick in my head.:rolleyes: Is I guess you can callit triangle jumping in this game g good idea, or just iad crossups? For instance, when I play Lillica, somethims after a knockdown, I'll do a sj then immediately do a 1+d, land and sweep to try and trick them. Thoughts? I'm liking this game a bunch. I'm making combos and stuff on my own before I hit up YT, I wanna have my own stlye before I see someone elses. Lillica with the death arcana is dope. I like to do silly teleport special combos lol.:rofl:

DS
10-14-2007, 07:15 PM
Yea, I gotta drill the fact that her j.3c doesn't have the same angle as Akuma's kick in my head.:rolleyes: Is I guess you can callit triangle jumping in this game g good idea, or just iad crossups? For instance, when I play Lillica, somethims after a knockdown, I'll do a sj then immediately do a 1+d, land and sweep to try and trick them. Thoughts? I'm liking this game a bunch. I'm making combos and stuff on my own before I hit up YT, I wanna have my own stlye before I see someone elses. Lillica with the death arcana is dope. I like to do silly teleport special combos lol.:rofl:

Learn flashstep and loop if you're gonna play Lilica hardcore.

Luigi-Bo 87
10-14-2007, 07:19 PM
What's flashstep? Is that the move shere she skates and you go into different things from there? Sometimes I use just the running part to close in. Other times I use the qcf+a to do cross up junk.

NappyJin
10-14-2007, 07:25 PM
I'm really enjoying this game. Wind Heart has been pretty sweet so far. I hope AH takes off here...and it seems to be doing so.


Back to playing now...

DS
10-14-2007, 07:26 PM
What's flashstep? Is that the move shere she skates and you go into different things from there? Sometimes I use just the running part to close in. Other times I use the qcf+a to do cross up junk.

Don't do 236A by itself. Flashstep is:

2ABC HC6 236A A~C 5A5B

It's basically her pressure string. And if you connect that(it combos), it could lead into loop: 236A~C. It's all in the wiki.

There really aren't any combos to create since the game is fairly established already. She can win without the loop because of her raw damage output, but she's really a pressure character. You have to be all over the place with her.

Also, abuse charge 3C with her. Has fairly good clash properties(tight window though).

Farpenoodle
10-14-2007, 07:31 PM
Is I guess you can callit triangle jumping in this game g good idea, or just iad crossups?

I guess you could call it that. Most of the crossups in the game are of the IAD or homing dash variety. Mainly because this game has weird hitboxes.

Also I hate Lilica 3C. :annoy:

Luigi-Bo 87
10-14-2007, 07:48 PM
Don't do 236A by itself. Flashstep is:

2ABC HC6 236A A~C 5A5B

It's basically her pressure string. And if you connect that(it combos), it could lead into loop: 236A~C. It's all in the wiki.

There really aren't any combos to create since the game is fairly established already. She can win without the loop because of her raw damage output, but she's really a pressure character. You have to be all over the place with her.

Also, abuse charge 3C with her. Has fairly good clash properties(tight window though).

I see. Thanks.

I guess you could call it that. Most of the crossups in the game are of the IAD or homing dash variety. Mainly because this game has weird hitboxes.

Also I hate Lilica 3C. :annoy:

I know, I found out that you can to her dpx2 into an j.a, dpx3. I tried it with j.b and j.c then dpx3 multiple times since they hit higher, but they don't connect.:confused:

Master Chibi
10-14-2007, 07:54 PM
Rob / Art:

When I counter hit someone in the air with a j.B and land and try to follow up do I have to homing cancel to do so because I try and super jump to continue but they already tech by the time I get there normally.

Shit I wish the training mode didn't suck.

sip
10-14-2007, 08:08 PM
I think SRK likes AH more than 3S.


I was gonna hold off on buying this, but holy fuck you guys sure hype it well.

One question (and it is a very n00by one): I never caught on to the numerical move descriptions you guys use for games, is that stuff explained in the wiki, or elsewhere? Danks.

DS
10-14-2007, 08:12 PM
I think SRK likes AH more than 3S.


I was gonna hold off on buying this, but holy fuck you guys sure hype it well.

One question (and it is a very n00by one): I never caught on to the numerical move descriptions you guys use for games, is that stuff explained in the wiki, or elsewhere? Danks.


If you got a numberpad on your keyboard(normally on the right =p), just look at that.

789
456
123

5 being neutral.

sip
10-14-2007, 08:17 PM
Ha, I feel dumb now.

That makes perfect sense, thanks a lot, Deathscythe.

Biolink
10-14-2007, 08:21 PM
I now suck even worse in Guilty Gear thanks to Arcana Heart :annoy:

I play Eddie,Dust the computer up into the air and then try homing?

It's so strange to even attempt to play other fighting games

HeartNana
10-14-2007, 08:24 PM
Rob / Art:

When I counter hit someone in the air with a j.B and land and try to follow up do I have to homing cancel to do so because I try and super jump to continue but they already tech by the time I get there normally.

Shit I wish the training mode didn't suck.
It all depends on how high up they are. THe fact that you can do 2C HC6 5B iad j.B and then followups from that means that you can indeed hit the opp in the air with j.B, land, and then continue to combo. Depends on distance most likely.

Humbag
10-14-2007, 08:37 PM
I think SRK likes AH more than 3S.




whoooa there sport :P

Master Chibi
10-14-2007, 08:41 PM
It all depends on how high up they are. THe fact that you can do 2C HC6 5B iad j.B and then followups from that means that you can indeed hit the opp in the air with j.B, land, and then continue to combo. Depends on distance most likely.

Yeah, I end up just super jumping straight up and then air dashing in a weak attempt to follow up, ah well.

:looney:

And I have to say I LOVE wind arcana, shit is absolutely perfect for me, the three jumps, two air dashes, AND pushblock are a god send.

Luigi-Bo 87
10-14-2007, 09:16 PM
Hmmm... I might need to give that one a try. Do they work well with Saki or Kamui?

Angelic Diablo
10-14-2007, 09:18 PM
Has anyone figured out if you can air throw someone as soon as they finish their Arcana animation if they were on the ground? I caught someone in an air throw when they broke the air combo with Arcana. I tried to pull the same trick basically hitting 8A+D as soon as the animation ended but the throw animation keeps whiffing. Any help would be appreciated.

Demon_Hyo
10-14-2007, 09:20 PM
What 5v5? NYC has more than two people that are good at this game? News to me

Exactly, that's what I always thought. That, and they have angry men who punch brick walls cause they can't loop with Lilica. Guess it's that manic depressive disease I've heard about.:looney:

SNAAAAKE
10-14-2007, 09:29 PM
is there a site explains how arcana heart engine works ? like the basic move list and shit ?? is it technical at all ?

HeartNana
10-14-2007, 09:31 PM
is there a site explains how arcana heart engine works ? like the basic move list and shit ?? is it technical at all ?

check the wiki in the first post. Its linked to 3 times in that post.

Master Chibi
10-14-2007, 09:34 PM
Exactly, that's what I always thought. That, and they have angry men who punch brick walls cause they can't loop with Lilica. Guess it's that manic depressive disease I've heard about.:looney:

Hurry up and destroy Deathscythe already, he's getting on my nerves :rofl:.

orka
10-14-2007, 09:41 PM
i've decided to play dat maori for sure

and the arcana heart hrap finally arrived... it's really nice!

NappyJin
10-14-2007, 09:54 PM
THIS GAME IS FUCKING ADDICTING.

Seriously...I'm loving this whole Arcana thing. It's fucking amazing.


If only I had someone to play against.

sip
10-14-2007, 09:55 PM
and the arcana heart hrap finally arrived... it's really nice!

What was the price for that?

Now that it is out of stock it makes me wonder how limited the production was and if it's gone for good.

Luigi-Bo 87
10-14-2007, 10:03 PM
i've decided to play dat maori for sure

and the arcana heart hrap finally arrived... it's really nice!


What will become of your Namco stick?(hint hint)

THIS GAME IS FUCKING ADDICTING.

Seriously...I'm loving this whole Arcana thing. It's fucking amazing.


If only I had someone to play against.

Ditto.

HeartNana
10-14-2007, 10:06 PM
What will become of your Namco stick?(hint hint)

I already got dibs. :arazz:

Biolink
10-14-2007, 10:08 PM
is there a site explains how arcana heart engine works ? like the basic move list and shit ?? is it technical at all ?

Here's the wiki dog:

http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

As for how the game plays,it doesn't feel comparable at all to any game I've played recently(Marvel,Melty,Guilty,SF,CvS included).

The combo system feels really open,moreso than any fighting game I have ever played before,and it'll probably be the same when you play it.Admittedly I knock my enemy sky high in the air alot and then combo them at the very top of the screen(And it gets REALLY high)just for the lulz.

It's not among Guilty Gear levels of technicality from what I have experienced,but the game does have a fair bit of advanced know how.

When I first saw a video of the game,I thought "Man,it's just another fucking loli fighter.Ignore..."Now I'm addicted to it.I keep telling myself that I will play more Guilty Gear,and I end up playing Arcana Heart for most of the day :/

Luigi-Bo 87
10-14-2007, 10:09 PM
You summa ma bitch.:arazz::mad:

HaadoGeiWoo
10-14-2007, 10:20 PM
Hell, I wanted one of those AH Hori sticks also but I ain't dumb enough to cough up almost $200 for the thing......espeically when you consider how much its original price is in JP yen.

8,379 yen = $71.22 USD

Buying that thing from Play-Asia is a ripoff.....even if it is limited.


This is sad though...even in my hometown I can't find no place that sells an arcade stick anywhere and I think my old Red Octane arcade stick is going to kick the bucket soon or something like my Pelican stick did.

Luigi-Bo 87
10-14-2007, 10:22 PM
There is another site, I think it's called Himura that sells a lot of the same things cheaper. It's where I get Bemani games from. I'll have to check on the site name real quick tho.

EDIT- It's Himeya:rolleyes:

Tr@pzt@r
10-14-2007, 10:37 PM
Yo what are some of those Mei Fang loops? all I see on DAT WIKI and guardcrush are some of her BnBs

Master Chibi
10-14-2007, 10:38 PM
Yo what are some of those Mei Fang loops? all I see on DAT WIKI and guardcrush are some of her BnBs

Those are her loops, unless you want arcana specific ones.

Gorehound
10-14-2007, 10:47 PM
So how did they weakened Kamui in FULL?

Tr@pzt@r
10-14-2007, 11:03 PM
ya im pretty much looking for some arcana speciafics for her mid screen combo in the air ending with jbc 236d im using the fire arcana if that helps any :x o and for her coner loops on guardcrush..i have no idea what a "Front Step Stand" is >_>

HeartNana
10-14-2007, 11:09 PM
So how did they weakened Kamui in FULL?
Read the first post for a list of changes from regular arcana to full.

Lobelia Prime
10-14-2007, 11:25 PM
I just played this game for the first time today. I'm pretty into it, to be honest! I'll probably end up buying a Swap Magic for this game, and ONLY for this game. My favorite character is Heart, and my favorite arcana is Love. I can't remember the name, but yeah, you get it. Umm...I guess the only question I have is this:
The Love Arcana's trademark super, which I have dubbed the "Giant Pink Bubble of Cottony Poof," seems pretty amazing, but it only worked against woof about half the time. Can anyone tell me the practical applications of this attack, if any?

HeartNana
10-14-2007, 11:34 PM
hit them in the air and do it. normal throw or 3[C] (whether they block it or not) will cause them to get hit by it. Plus you can summon it from full screen away and 5[D] at them and try to mix them up into it.

Its good, but its not always gonna work. =P

phae
10-14-2007, 11:59 PM
Exactly, that's what I always thought. That, and they have angry men who punch brick walls cause they can't loop with Lilica. Guess it's that manic depressive disease I've heard about.:looney:

It's a shame you won't be able to reset at NEC when things start going bad for you.. you might stand a chance then.

Mizuki
10-15-2007, 12:03 AM
It's a shame you won't be able to reset at NEC when things start going bad for you.. you might stand a chance then.

YES BRING DAT ARCANA HATE!

NEC you guys are going to mentally lose to my Steel Yoriko, YES that includes you Art. STEEL YORIKO.

Sabin
10-15-2007, 12:32 AM
Has anyone figured out if you can air throw someone as soon as they finish their Arcana animation if they were on the ground? I caught someone in an air throw when they broke the air combo with Arcana. I tried to pull the same trick basically hitting 8A+D as soon as the animation ended but the throw animation keeps whiffing. Any help would be appreciated.

Yes, you can punish arcana activate with a airthrow if they were already airborne.
This is a common tactic with Kira (not a good idea to burst when she's safe, as she can grab u at most ranges.) Also, for example, if the opponent ried to burst while airborne when you are doing a generic IAD loop (like Saki, or Heart for example) geneally, youll be at the perfect height to throw them (because half the time, you are iading at their sprite when they burst,) so yes you will get the airthrow. Of course there are some thing they can o to escpe the situation, bu generally its very difficult, and depending on where they burst, a airthrow or combo can be fairly guaranteed in certain sitiations off bad bursts.

Furthermore, you cannot input a throw break immediately after you activate. I don't know why, but yeah, I've seen everyone get thrown after a bad burst and I know they're inputting the break.

While we're on the topic of throws, and I know this has been repeated before in the thread, but ill say it again - 4/6A+D throws have a smaller break window than neutral A+D.

Neutral throws, because of the combo followup, reduce damage in the combo by 50% also.

Saotome Kaneda
10-15-2007, 12:55 AM
I just found out that if you are planning to use one homing gauge for the combo you better do this one-
SK, do u know what I'm talking about? and if so got any tips on doing that shit? :lovin:
I haven't seen any vids lately, so I can't help. I assume it's of the same variety of the 5B HC style combos.

I'll maintain that saving that 623button for later in the combo will help extend your loops. There's plenty of ways to get the combo started, and what if you got them mid-screen?
is there a site explains how arcana heart engine works ? like the basic move list and shit ?? is it technical at all ?

CHECK THE FIRST POST DAMMIT


And I'll be doing the basic technical shit too, so be ready for that.

Yar1n
10-15-2007, 01:14 AM
I haven't seen any vids lately, so I can't help. I assume it's of the same variety of the 5B HC style combos.

I'll maintain that saving that 623button for later in the combo will help extend your loops. There's plenty of ways to get the combo started, and what if you got them mid-screen?


The thing is that usually i hit with 2B or some string chained to 2B
and i barely hit 5B. [ Maybe i need to add it to my game]

But when I do I can still do
5B, 6HC, jA jC, jA,jC 5A,5A, 623A, repeat which is way better damage then splash loop.

Also if i hit with 2B mid screen I think going for SJ jA JC jA, jC 5HC j2C into rocket to w/e.
But I found out that if you chained the 2B this wont work for some reason dunnow :confused:

Sabin
10-15-2007, 01:44 AM
Arcana Heart FULL! has been added to Season's Beatings II in Ohio on 11/3. Hype that shit up!

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=136865

Saotome Kaneda
10-15-2007, 03:27 AM
The thing is that usually i hit with 2B or some string chained to 2B
and i barely hit 5B. [ Maybe i need to add it to my game]

But when I do I can still do
5B, 6HC, jA jC, jA,jC 5A,5A, 623A, repeat which is way better damage then splash loop.

Also if i hit with 2B mid screen I think going for SJ jA JC jA, jC 5HC j2C into rocket to w/e.
But I found out that if you chained the 2B this wont work for some reason dunnow :confused:

mixing up 2A tick KSD with 2A5B works

if 5HC jAjC is too hard if you're using rock it's possible to do 6HC 2A~whatever, the timing is different tho

and chaining into 2B, it's all in how many 2As you do before it. the general rule of thumb is 2 2As, for hit confirm and spacing

Hyperhal
10-15-2007, 04:22 AM
Trashtalking in this thread is the worst thing ever. :rofl:

TitaniumBeast!
10-15-2007, 04:30 AM
The hate has already begun in NC. Soon it will spread. It will come to a head at NEC. Lookin' forward to it.

unledded
10-15-2007, 05:26 AM
ya im pretty much looking for some arcana speciafics for her mid screen combo in the air ending with jbc 236d im using the fire arcana if that helps any :x o and for her coner loops on guardcrush..i have no idea what a "Front Step Stand" is >_>

I'm also interested in fire arcana Mei-Fang loops.

peskypurple
10-15-2007, 06:00 AM
okay I've got my ps2 working and my copy of AH so I'm up to speed. Now I get to play with Lies at home.

Yar1n
10-15-2007, 06:17 AM
mixing up 2A tick KSD with 2A5B works

if 5HC jAjC is too hard if you're using rock it's possible to do 6HC 2A~whatever, the timing is different tho

and chaining into 2B, it's all in how many 2As you do before it. the general rule of thumb is 2 2As, for hit confirm and spacing

Thanks :p

I'm not a big fan of rock arcana tbh.

I'm gonna use lightning /gier :P
Mostly lightning vs that Kamui and Heart I play against.

krost
10-15-2007, 09:02 AM
I'm stuck without a stick, so the only character I'm playing right now (god I hate pad) is Saki. I'm assuming Lightning/Gier are her arcana's of choice?

Looking forward to using Maori, Kira and Konoha whenever I get a stick. :confused:

peskypurple
10-15-2007, 09:47 AM
Saki works with any Arcana, (although Lightening Geir are best) but Earth and Time messes up her combos. Plant and Heart Saki give you different options, but Geir and Lightening allow you to hold your supers, which I love for any character.

Fadedsun303
10-15-2007, 09:57 AM
Saki works with any Arcana, (although Lightening Geir are best) but Earth and Time messes up her combos. Plant and Heart Saki give you different options, but Geir and Lightening allow you to hold your supers, which I love for any character.

What do you mean by hold your supers?

Master Chibi
10-15-2007, 09:59 AM
What do you mean by hold your supers?

If you input 236236D with Gier or Lightning and HOLD down D your super will not come out until you release D. This way you get set-ups / mix ups / what have you.

;P

Arturo, are you going to CF this Saturday for Min's tournament?

Apparently some people don't think supporting AH at CF is worth it anymore now that it's on console.

Fadedsun303
10-15-2007, 10:05 AM
If you input 236236D with Gier or Lightning and HOLD down D your super will not come out until you release D. This way you get set-ups / mix ups / what have you.


That is so cool. Thanks for the info. Good thing I use Lightning Saki. I'm going to mess around with her with Gier too.

Luigi-Bo 87
10-15-2007, 10:06 AM
If you input 236236D with Gier or Lightning and HOLD down D your super will not come out until you release D. This way you get set-ups / mix ups / what have you.



Really?:lovin: Gotta try that when I get home.

PaRt2
10-15-2007, 10:08 AM
I already got dibs. :arazz:

:rofl: There's sooo many people inquiring about that thing. I definitely don't need it. I'm actually looking to possibly sell my Happ SFAC stick.

I'll be whoring up this thread soon.. Or just asking Rob for everything about this game.

HaadoGeiWoo
10-15-2007, 10:14 AM
I'm also interested in fire arcana Mei-Fang loops.

Although I don't like doing loops all that much, I wouldn't mind finding out some with Mei-Fang/Dieu Mort.

I got a few combos with this Arcana but nothing big, just revised combos of whats on the wiki (meaning, I added 2 - 3 things to the posted combos using Dieu Mort's abilities).

Hyperhal
10-15-2007, 10:22 AM
The hate has already begun in NC. Soon