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Tiggy
11-13-2007, 11:09 PM
Cats are gettin hype for NEC!!! Too bad I won't be going.

I'm getting a little frustrated with Lilica...I've learned the buttons to press, and now it's just a matter of pressing them quickly, successively, and correctly. Flash Step is a bitch. Who knew that dashing forward after 5B > 214a~C could be so hard? I can't even do Heel Kick loops facing to the left (I'm up to about nine hits facing right, just need to work on ending it). I need A LOT of work. I really haven't practiced my Lise, but tweaked a combo here and there and figured out some things. I won't give up, but I'm just trying to tell myself it'll take some time to get this stuff down. I don't wanna jump on the Kamui/Saki bandwagon (with the exception of those who actually know how to use them). I want to use Lilica and Lieselotte, and I want to be good with them:bgrin:

ryokoalways
11-13-2007, 11:12 PM
Don't take me too seriously :p

As for lilica, the timing for just heel drop will come easily in time. And for flash step, just keep doing it till you remember it by muscle memory completely. Figure out the height and distance dependencies later. The flash step is annoying because all kinds of weird things can happen if your timing goes off (dp super, the hop, heel drop, or nothing at all).

abstyles20
11-14-2007, 01:51 AM
wassup peoples im a Lilica player and her combos and stuff i pretty much got down packed. i was just wondering if somebody could give me some advice on fighting kamui.

Shinto
11-14-2007, 06:10 AM
wassup peoples im a Lilica player and her combos and stuff i pretty much got down packed. i was just wondering if somebody could give me some advice on fighting kamui.

Plug out the Kamui player controller then proceed to smack the fuck outta them with your stick or pad....Having a Xbox Controller would give you a .0521 boost in dmg.


Soft Ban on Kamui!!!!!!!:razz:
Ponder on DAT!

And IM OUT!!!!!!!

But rush her shit down she is awful when getting rushed, but watch out for 4GC into 421 a,b,c or 421 ab.

Tiggy
11-14-2007, 07:58 AM
Don't take me too seriously :p

As for lilica, the timing for just heel drop will come easily in time. And for flash step, just keep doing it till you remember it by muscle memory completely. Figure out the height and distance dependencies later. The flash step is annoying because all kinds of weird things can happen if your timing goes off (dp super, the hop, heel drop, or nothing at all).

:pray: Thank you. That is all I needed.

wassup peoples im a Lilica player and her combos and stuff i pretty much got down packed. i was just wondering if somebody could give me some advice on fighting kamui.

The one thing you need to remember about fighting Kamui is her range (5B, 5C, 2B) and the occasional counter. Also, look out for 4GC into 421A (Tensa). Make use of Lilica's speed. Crossovers, 2A into pressure game, 2C into Arcana....trust me, I have a hard time just playing Lilica in general. But I do know basic strats just by watching match vids. Doing Accel Slide into 236B, 236C, or even 236A out of nowhere isn't really reccommended, but I've seen Japanese players fall for it from time to time...just pick your spots. 236A can even be a good crossover if you IAD immediately after hopping off of the ground. Just pay attention to the character's positioning relative to Lilica.

Sabin
11-14-2007, 08:04 AM
honestly im suprised u can even handle 4 buttons =P

Haha I know rite? You probably know about my shitty execution better than most. I cant even sap a assist button in mvc2 while doing a sentinel unfly combo - im amazed i can even hold gier and combo at the same time :lol:

That's really interesting stuff. I'm probably going to start using Love with my mains more to see if I can get more potential out of it. I know now from the link I posted earlier that you can combo the beams, and from a match vid you can combo the puffballs with Heart. I am going to see what I can come up with.

I need to start traveling though and play with you guys and stuff, I'd like to see how I'd fair against some of you.

Cool, just let us know when you're traveling to the next major and I'll make some time to play you. Where are you from, anyway?

About the love stuff that you talked about. I know about the fact that you can combo the puffballs and the lasers. That stuff was discovered when the game first came out. It's decent for Heart beause it allows her to score easy 0-day damage off combos if youre new to the engine, but when you try to exploit every pixel of damage, those combos dont hold up IMO. Mainly because you have to waste too much meter and homing, and you can get the same benefit while using other arcanas...

This doesnt mean you shouldn't give it a try though, as the game has not hit its peak yet, and new things are still being discovered. Hell, the Japanese have stepped it up enormously in the one month since I left...so yeah, you never know, you might find something new as well. game is still in flux right now for the most part.

I picked up and dropped Kamui in 3 days lol.

I'm dropping Saki because I don't have any fun using her.

I'm keeping fire mei-fang because I love combos.

That just leaves....Lieselotte. I'm having a hard time thinking that the doll is good for anything, because all it seems to do is get hit. Even if I have 421 orbs out right in front of my face, people still jump in/iad and hit it, and that same hit still puts me in blockstun. It's almost like the doll isn't even there.

When I try pressure, I summon the 421 and 214 orbs right on top of them, and after blocking one of the hits, they just throw out a poke and I'm CH if I try 2b, 5b, or an arcana special. AND the doll gets hit. I've found that using the 22 orb summon can setup unblockables, but no one ever bothers to block (if I can get a KD at all).

It's also a real bitch trying to pick the doll back up after it's been hit 3 times. If my hitbox isn't in the EXACT right spot, it doesn't go into the suitcase.

I hear all this talk of her being upper mid/top tier, but outside of SBO, every time I see a lies match she's getting her ass kicked. BY EVERYONE. I understand that she's a hard character to play and get used to, but my day one kamui could beat the people I play whereas my 3 week old lies could not. What's the damn deal?

I don't know anything about how to play Liese, just general stuff, but it sounds like the problem you're having is a lack of experience with the game in general.

You can't expect to practice Liese for 3 weeks and start mopping fools, it takes way WAY more time than that, and you need a intricate knowledge of the engine before you can even START to do anything with her. Liese's potential wasn't even discovered until the end of regular Arcana Heart, before the FULL! upgrades.

About the video stuff, like I've been saying, that's really representative of less than 1% of total Japanese play. You can take it as a small snapshot, but you can't just watch vids and say "liese gets owned in every match." There are decent amounts of tourneys, but you don't hear about the results on SRK, and a lot of the results arent always posted up on JP sites, unless they are big.

She isn't ranked as top tier because of SBO, it's because she has the most potential in the game, some of the best clash games, insane lockdown with traps, variable with different arcanas, insane damage etc. I could go on and on.

Simply put, Kamui is easier to win with if yo udon't know enough about the engine. Lieselotte requires extreme knowledge of the game engine before you can even begin to fuck with ppl. And it's not like she's a popular choice in Japan either - I've probably played about 5 skilled Liese players, tops in my whole time I've been playing AH. However, the players that play with her, tend to end up doing really really well and have really good yomi and prediction. Obviously, when you play Lieselotte, you have to have good yomi and predict what theyre going to do in advance - otherwise you won't be doing shit.

have you watched http://www.youtube.com/user/henvoke <- check about a month back, SBO champ Ao is in these vids, should give u some ideas on how to fuck with her. also check google video, type in "sabin vs otaku" for some beast lieselotte action. He's one of the best players I've had the pleasure to play against in this game.


Ive been busy...

Besides, you're the god. I can't beat a god.:pray: Im hoping to even place top 10 at NEC.

Oh please nigga. Enough of this humble business. You have the best chance of taking me out at NEC and you're talking like that? Fuck that shit, it's mad boring. POP THE FUCK OFF. I'll be fucking damned if this game gets NO HYPE like GGXX does, with golf claps when niggas win. Fuck that shit. Your Lilica is fucking buns, son. Arcana H8H8H8H8.

BTW, the w2z tourney was mad hype...NY and Philly know how to get the HYPE going for this game. ohio was mad weak in comparison in terms of hype. you/orka/capps will see how we get AH popping in the EC now. Get HYPE AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Will we pop off to each other again and talk mad shit? Will I make you bite your hand because you get tight hitting by gier loops again? Will I punch a gate if I lose? It's less than one month away now. :pray:

CoosCoos
11-14-2007, 09:57 AM
Cool, just let us know when you're traveling to the next major and I'll make some time to play you. Where are you from, anyway?

About the love stuff that you talked about. I know about the fact that you can combo the puffballs and the lasers. That stuff was discovered when the game first came out. It's decent for Heart beause it allows her to score easy 0-day damage off combos if youre new to the engine, but when you try to exploit every pixel of damage, those combos dont hold up IMO. Mainly because you have to waste too much meter and homing, and you can get the same benefit while using other arcanas...

This doesnt mean you shouldn't give it a try though, as the game has not hit its peak yet, and new things are still being discovered. Hell, the Japanese have stepped it up enormously in the one month since I left...so yeah, you never know, you might find something new as well. game is still in flux right now for the most part.

I live in Augusta, Georgia. I'm actually gonna travel a lot more this next year and see if I can get up to NY for some matches.

Konoha's my main character, and I normally play wind, water, gier, fire or love. I just learned the fire loops where I can do them in my sleep and all, so I'm incorporating it in my game. I like to have options against people, because different people have different play styles and what not, so I will pick the Arcana according to what will be effective pretty much. I think my favorite ones though are water, gier, and fire. Wind I use if I need to be more mobile for keepaway/rushdown, and love, I just like to have fun with it, and from playing with it I've found new ways to create mixups using the triple puffballs.

But yeah, I'm gonna take my butt up to some places eventually to play more and ish.

Nastrodamus
11-14-2007, 12:06 PM
traveling is fun, but i suggest if you do more than 8 hours... fly or bus or sumthing... driving to a place for 8 hours seems really bad( my knees still ache).


like i said... good shit... im looking to bring hype... im determined to win.. so it's all good man.... no hate between... i just want to makes this clear...im gonna do my best to win...


and yo... i was playing love fiona... wow what weird arcana for her... but i think the love ball shit helps.... good for backing her up going in when you get momentum in the match... and shit love balls to don't prorate so shit... it easily can lead to some nasty damage...

HeartNana
11-14-2007, 12:56 PM
Oh please nigga. Enough of this humble business. You have the best chance of taking me out at NEC and you're talking like that? Fuck that shit, it's mad boring. POP THE FUCK OFF. I'll be fucking damned if this game gets NO HYPE like GGXX does, with golf claps when niggas win. Fuck that shit. Your Lilica is fucking buns, son. Arcana H8H8H8H8.

BTW, the w2z tourney was mad hype...NY and Philly know how to get the HYPE going for this game. ohio was mad weak in comparison in terms of hype. you/orka/capps will see how we get AH popping in the EC now. Get HYPE AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Will we pop off to each other again and talk mad shit? Will I make you bite your hand because you get tight hitting by gier loops again? Will I punch a gate if I lose? It's less than one month away now. :pray: honestly, school is raping me right now (only a week left until all my finals are done, thank god) so i havent had nearly as much time put into the game as i would like, and i don't feel like im playing how i should be. Hopefully i can hella practice and session and polish up really well in the next few weeks, but until then, i feel like i've been playing like crap.:xeye:

Maybe i should just stick to idolm@ster....

D'Nyc3
11-14-2007, 01:51 PM
I love Kamui.


LETS ALL HAVE LOVE FOR KAMUI!

Shinto
11-14-2007, 01:53 PM
I love Kamui.


LETS ALL HAVE LOVE FOR KAMUI!

I'm in for the bandwagon!

BaSiK_TeKniK
11-14-2007, 01:55 PM
I need to get dat arcana

CrimsonDisaster
11-14-2007, 02:05 PM
Maybe i should just stick to idolm@ster....

idolm@ster money match? GET HYPE
lol jk

orka
11-14-2007, 02:15 PM
if i went to a arcade and there are ac machine, ah machine mb machine, dr machine... and a idol m@ster machine that costs three times as much to play, i'd still go for idol m@ster over others

true story

Tiggy
11-14-2007, 02:56 PM
BTW, the w2z tourney was mad hype...NY and Philly know how to get the HYPE going for this game. ohio was mad weak in comparison in terms of hype. you/orka/capps will see how we get AH popping in the EC now. Get HYPE AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Ohio doesn't even know the game exists really. Only a few of my friends are willing to play the game (one of which is pretty good with Mei-Fang...Chun-Li 2.0). He did one AH casual at my PS3 at SB II, but he was the only one who played it to my knowledge that I knew personally. Don't get me started on how much SH_ hates the game:rofl:

honestly, school is raping me right now (only a week left until all my finals are done, thank god) so i havent had nearly as much time put into the game as i would like, and i don't feel like im playing how i should be. Hopefully i can hella practice and session and polish up really well in the next few weeks, but until then, i feel like i've been playing like crap.:xeye:

Maybe i should just stick to idolm@ster....

School is doing a Poison loop on you too? I'm assuming you didn't activate yet.....sorry for the AH lingo:sweat: Only two more weeks left for me, then I get a week break before winter quarter.

ryokoalways
11-14-2007, 03:00 PM
if i went to a arcade and there are ac machine, ah machine mb machine, dr machine... and a idol m@ster machine that costs three times as much to play, i'd still go for idol m@ster over others

true story

You are Japanese. I'm not going to be surprised by any amount of money you spend or are willing to spend on games.

orka
11-14-2007, 03:09 PM
i actually don't have time for games other than gg and ah these days but... considering you don't spend money on anything... yea, that'd be accurate

HeartNana
11-14-2007, 03:20 PM
idolm@ster money match? GET HYPE
lol jk

I'd do it, but i don't wanna take your money.

My idols beating yours in an audition would be worth it. :tup:

Tiggy - yeah pretty much. I was able to hit practice mode once or twice this past week, but not much aside from that. This upcoming week is gonna be far more killer and im just delaying the inevitable by posting on here...

Tiggy
11-14-2007, 03:35 PM
if i went to a arcade and there are ac machine, ah machine mb machine, dr machine... and a idol m@ster machine that costs three times as much to play, i'd still go for idol m@ster over others

true story

You are Japanese. I'm not going to be surprised by any amount of money you spend or are willing to spend on games.

i actually don't have time for games other than gg and ah these days but... considering you don't spend money on anything... yea, that'd be accurate


:rofl: > :lol: > :rofl:

I'd do it, but i don't wanna take your money.

My idols beating yours in an audition would be worth it. :tup:

Tiggy - yeah pretty much. I was able to hit practice mode once or twice this past week, but not much aside from that. This upcoming week is gonna be far more killer and im just delaying the inevitable by posting on here...

I know the feeling. Finals studying is gonna suck. But it's only two more weeks. I have enough time before and after work to study, so I'm not sweating it too much. One thing I admit is posting on here takes up a surprising amount of time, if you look at past posts up to the current ones.

CrimsonDisaster
11-14-2007, 03:58 PM
I don't even play Idolm@ster due to my lack of Japanese powers.
But if I did, I would totally win.

On topic:
mash 5A ANTI-AIR TACTICS

ryokoalways
11-14-2007, 04:26 PM
i actually don't have time for games other than gg and ah these days but... considering you don't spend money on anything... yea, that'd be accurate

That is untrue and unfair!

Fatal K.O
11-14-2007, 06:30 PM
Does Plant Arcana really suck? I've been toying with it in practice mode but the only thing semi-useful I can do with it is to use the vines like to extend combos in the corner. Seeds seem too damn useless since they don't deploy fast enough. :/

Sabin
11-14-2007, 09:16 PM
Does Plant Arcana really suck? I've been toying with it in practice mode but the only thing semi-useful I can do with it is to use the vines like to extend combos in the corner. Seeds seem too damn useless since they don't deploy fast enough. :/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sV_KY9DgCU

THE heart player does one of the plant unblockable setups with the seeds starting at 00:25. He does it several times through the match with different setups...the kira player counters it a lil in round 2 tho. anyway, great match from both players, those guys are both monsters who use oddball arcanas.

Master Chibi
11-14-2007, 09:46 PM
Your Lilica is buns?

Wow, I have to catch up on my hype vocabulary.

:rofl:

Nastrodamus
11-15-2007, 05:49 AM
holy shit when was chairperson in a 2d fighter?


and yo i barley have enough either.. works keeps me away from my practice... i still get like an hour but still... NEED MORE!!!!

xS A M U R A Ix
11-15-2007, 09:53 AM
Alright I need anti-Konoha strats. This guy also uses water arcana too so the bubbles are a real bitch. How do I get around this bitch / what's her weakness?

Also anyone know some good Time Kamui stuff?

orka
11-15-2007, 10:06 AM
Alright I need anti-Konoha strats. This guy also uses water arcana too so the bubbles are a real bitch. How do I get around this bitch / what's her weakness?

Also anyone know some good Time Kamui stuff?

kamui can pop a bubble with 5c whenever she gets a knock down, i think.

i actually don't really know how people deal with water in general... it just seems like a lot of stuff is up to random chance.

i've seen some people use the fire super in block strings, just for the purpose of killing off bubbles.


EDIT: speaking of water... i've read in a japanese site that the ps2 glitch with water charged 6c applies to all characters. the game will freeze whenever the charged 6c hits any kind of "object" with hit box (i.e. projectiles, time back dash after-image).

Sabin
11-15-2007, 10:26 AM
Alright I need anti-Konoha strats. This guy also uses water arcana too so the bubbles are a real bitch. How do I get around this bitch / what's her weakness?

Also anyone know some good Time Kamui stuff?

vs water arcana, if a player activates super and youre knocked down, youre in trouble. during this time that bubbles are activated, its advised to run away and not try to hit her, cause its too risky. you can only damage off throws mainly, or if you can do specific moves to try to pop all bubbles at once...off the top of my head, heres a few setups that burst bubbles, like for example, you can do steel super (w/steel arcana) to pop all the bubbles.. saki flashkick super on block or hit will kill the bubbles... kamui neutral throw comboed into C tenza will kill the bubbles and hit her....you still cant escape kira's throws...etc etc.

about the anti konoha stuff, you havent told me what character youre using..she doesnt have much in the way of weaknesses, since shes not a shitty character.

about the time kamui stuff, if you want me to write a transcript of some time kamui combos, i will..i havent tried them myself but the notation shouldnt be too hard if i watch a video.

HeartNana: I was about to say "i feel you" when it comes to school and you being busy, until you started POPPING OFF in [b]Idolm@ster.[/b[ fucking anime *** :rofl: get antihype :(

xS A M U R A Ix
11-15-2007, 10:49 AM
vs water arcana, if a player activates super and youre knocked down, youre in trouble. during this time that bubbles are activated, its advised to run away and not try to hit her, cause its too risky. you can only damage off throws mainly, or if you can do specific moves to try to pop all bubbles at once...off the top of my head, heres a few setups that burst bubbles, like for example, you can do steel super (w/steel arcana) to pop all the bubbles.. saki flashkick super on block or hit will kill the bubbles... kamui neutral throw comboed into C tenza will kill the bubbles and hit her....you still cant escape kira's throws...etc etc.

about the anti konoha stuff, you havent told me what character youre using..she doesnt have much in the way of weaknesses, since shes not a shitty character.

about the time kamui stuff, if you want me to write a transcript of some time kamui combos, i will..i havent tried them myself but the notation shouldnt be too hard if i watch a video.

HeartNana: I was about to say "i feel you" when it comes to school and you being busy, until you started POPPING OFF in [b]Idolm@ster.[/b[ fucking anime *** :rofl: get antihype :(

I'm playing time kamui. My biggest problem is when she gets in, I have trouble getting her out because any quick poke I can use when she has a gap in her pressure to start my own offense usually hits a bubble and I get owned for it. Also bubbles limit me from using 4GC into kamui's air super, so I really don't have much in the way of defense, I just have to let her rushdown and try to predict throws until the bubbles disappear.

Some time combos would be good though, thanks a lot for the help Sabin ^_^

edit: I also play gier, if that might be useful. Just been trying to make a transition over to time because it seems really good. Just maybe not vs. water konoha. (I haven't had a chance to play the dude again since I switched over to time)

Guardian
11-15-2007, 10:54 AM
have you watched http://www.youtube.com/user/henvoke <- check about a month back, SBO champ Ao is in these vids, should give u some ideas on how to fuck with her.


FINALLY. Something to work with, thanx Sabin. Are all these Full matches or regular AH?

someAzNdude
11-15-2007, 12:05 PM
@Guardian: those are AHF matches, just look at the game timer if it is purple then you're watching a AHF match, if it is blue then its the original

@xS A M U R A Ix: the thing about konoha is her stubby limbs since she's so small but her speed makes up for this more often then not. But when given the chance you should use any normals that have long reach to out poke konoha and hit confirms into combos or w/e. Water Konoha is got to be one of the most annoying opponent to face against in AH because of the small hit box accompanied by combo stopping water bubbles... :( Just go into the defensive and try to run away until the bubbles wear out or try to pop them using special/arcana moves/supers depending on who you're using and what arcana you picked as pointed out by Sabin. For Kamui Time combos I suggest you just go watch dat Youtube for dem jap vids as I'm sure none of us here use Time Kamui like that anyway :/

D'Nyc3
11-15-2007, 12:24 PM
So how many unblockables does Kamui have anyway?

peskypurple
11-15-2007, 12:34 PM
I don't know any Kamui v. Konoha strats so I can't help you there. But I generally run when she activates the bubble super, with an emphasis on staying in the air... beware the unblockable... as to avoid bubble's/konoha's super throw. I use gier pretty liberally so that pops alot of the bubbles anyway. I

someAzNdude
11-15-2007, 12:34 PM
So how many unblockables does Kamui have anyway?

Just 3B and the standard 3/6C air unblockables

D'Nyc3
11-15-2007, 12:36 PM
Just 3B and the standard 3/6C air unblockables

So for example:

my opponent blocks my j.5b > j.5C and then land and do her 3B or 3/6C while they're in the air, it will work right?

someAzNdude
11-15-2007, 12:43 PM
yes it will, unless they GC out of the blockstun

D'Nyc3
11-15-2007, 12:47 PM
yes it will, unless they GC out of the blockstun

Ahhh. Thanks.

My strategy is basically run until there's a opening.

xS A M U R A Ix
11-15-2007, 01:07 PM
My strategy is basically run until there's a opening.

You're well on your way to being a kamui master.

As for the Konoha fight, I THINK that the gier super might take out all the bubbles pretty well, since it's 3 hits and has a gigantic hit box. I'll have to mess with it and see.

someAzNdude
11-15-2007, 03:07 PM
Ahhh. Thanks.

My strategy is basically run until there's a opening.

yeah that is basic strats for any kamui, abusing 3B on block stunned opponents who're in the air its the same for Mei-Fang 6B as well :looney:

@xS A M U R A Ix: yeah gier super kills the bubbles along with fireball super from lang gong, laser super from love arcana, and some others.

D'Nyc3
11-15-2007, 03:15 PM
Kamui is my Anti-Drug

Sabin
11-15-2007, 03:38 PM
time kamui junk - based off this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvGL6OFPl6s

heres the kamui time setup i saw in the corner to cause freeze - starting at 1:21

2A 2B 2C into C Fireball XX Time Super -> B Uruma -> 5B XX C Fireball XX 5HC -> jA jC XX 6HC -> j6C -> 2a -> 5c XX A Uruma -> 2a -> 5b XX Kodama, and then they're frozen.

Dunno what Kamui does after that but it seems like she initiated the Kamui bug? she got launched for a few wimes with 3c/6c and didnt tech...maybe she just chose not to techh or maybe the bug did set into place, im not sure. I think it's the bug.

also at that video at around 3:17, kamui did a midscreen setup into time loop but messed up the followup. he did 2a 2b 2c into C fireball XX HC5, jA jC XX time super. Not bad, but you have to be close otherwise the fireball will OTG them instead of juggling.

I'll post some more midscreen ones later

BlackShinobi
11-15-2007, 04:14 PM
I know how to beat Konoha with those annoying bubbles! .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........................Bye.

someAzNdude
11-15-2007, 04:57 PM
time kamui junk - based off this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvGL6OFPl6s

heres the kamui time setup i saw in the corner to cause freeze - starting at 1:21

2A 2B 2C into C Fireball XX Time Super -> B Uruma -> 5B XX C Fireball XX 5HC -> jA jC XX 6HC -> j6C -> 2a -> 5c XX A Uruma -> 2a -> 5b XX Kodama, and then they're frozen.

Dunno what Kamui does after that but it seems like she initiated the Kamui bug? she got launched for a few wimes with 3c/6c and didnt tech...maybe she just chose not to techh or maybe the bug did set into place, im not sure. I think it's the bug.

also at that video at around 3:17, kamui did a midscreen setup into time loop but messed up the followup. he did 2a 2b 2c into C fireball XX HC5, jA jC XX time super. Not bad, but you have to be close otherwise the fireball will OTG them instead of juggling.

I'll post some more midscreen ones later

umm ok, that IS the time glitch
236AB super ender and the opponent freezes afterwards into repeated 3/6C
the opponent can't tech out of that... :/ wow finally got to see the time glitch combo with Kamui, that shit is dumb but it deals no damage but it looks like its used to get those time out wins so I can see why its banned in japan tourney play...:looney:

bisquit_man
11-15-2007, 08:30 PM
Does anyone have a 100% PS2 save file for this game?

With all of the art , endings and extra character?

Codebreaker or AR Max file types would be awesome.

I won't be an ass and post it on Gfaqs as my own like other jerks.

......

BlackShinobi
11-15-2007, 09:51 PM
Did you ever figure out something so late you felt like a retard for not noticing it before, well that just happened about an hour ago. Anyway this shit is too good, now I need to test t out this weekend.
So who is coming by tomorrow or saturday?

Tiggy
11-15-2007, 10:39 PM
time kamui junk - based off this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvGL6OFPl6s

heres the kamui time setup i saw in the corner to cause freeze - starting at 1:21

2A 2B 2C into C Fireball XX Time Super -> B Uruma -> 5B XX C Fireball XX 5HC -> jA jC XX 6HC -> j6C -> 2a -> 5c XX A Uruma -> 2a -> 5b XX Kodama, and then they're frozen.

Dunno what Kamui does after that but it seems like she initiated the Kamui bug? she got launched for a few wimes with 3c/6c and didnt tech...maybe she just chose not to techh or maybe the bug did set into place, im not sure. I think it's the bug.

also at that video at around 3:17, kamui did a midscreen setup into time loop but messed up the followup. he did 2a 2b 2c into C fireball XX HC5, jA jC XX time super. Not bad, but you have to be close otherwise the fireball will OTG them instead of juggling.

I'll post some more midscreen ones later


WOW:rofl: The repeated 3C is what got me.

I'm not sure as of yet, but I'm thinking about filling up Guardcrush with combos and maybe a strat or two for Kira...a character I don't even play. I'll just watch some vids and take mental notes.

Master Chibi
11-15-2007, 10:47 PM
Ken, show up to CF tomorrow please (around 9pm I'd say).

Thanks~

someAzNdude
11-15-2007, 11:16 PM
Ken, show up to CF tomorrow please (around 9pm I'd say).

Thanks~

Will do :wgrin:

xS A M U R A Ix
11-16-2007, 12:59 AM
time stuff

<3!

I've seen them do some other variations of some stuff in videos for the time combos, looks like you can get creative with it with the fireball though. Thanks for the transcript.

I tried to transcript what I saw too, dunno if the stuff still works but I wrote everything I found down here: http://www.guardcrush.net/forums/showpost.php?p=7032&postcount=31


I know how to beat Konoha with those annoying bubbles! .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........................Bye.

You know you want to tell me before saturday.....I got a tournament coming up and the only person I can't reliably beat is that konobitch player. I need some sorta attack plan >_<

I played him some more tonight and I really have no idea how to handle him with time. If he's got bubbles I really can't do anything, not even zone to keep him out, so I might start using wind just so I can run away / have a push block, lol.

My other problem with konoha is that I like to use air pokes to zone with kamui but it seems like konoha's stuff beats out a lot in the air. j.C and j.B both have gigantic hit boxes and my stuff loses to it like every time almost >_<

CoosCoos
11-16-2007, 07:00 AM
You know you want to tell me before saturday.....I got a tournament coming up and the only person I can't reliably beat is that konobitch player. I need some sorta attack plan >_<

I played him some more tonight and I really have no idea how to handle him with time. If he's got bubbles I really can't do anything, not even zone to keep him out, so I might start using wind just so I can run away / have a push block, lol.

My other problem with konoha is that I like to use air pokes to zone with kamui but it seems like konoha's stuff beats out a lot in the air. j.C and j.B both have gigantic hit boxes and my stuff loses to it like every time almost >_<

One way you should think about doing is trying to get at distances where you get him to activate bubbles in unsafe places. You can then combo him while they are activating. Also, end blocked ground chains with a gier call. This way, you can potentially get rid of a bubble or two should you do gier super, and not get punished for it.

Dave2J
11-16-2007, 09:05 AM
Since I have not seen a mention b4 I was wondering if that kamui time infinite is banned here in tournaments??????????

orka
11-16-2007, 09:15 AM
time infinite is banned... everywhere.

there are other "infinites", too though. like maori's water time-up combo and maori's lightning death combo. but i don't think people have bothered banning those.

Dave2J
11-16-2007, 09:24 AM
Thanks for da info orka, I am no longer a kamui user. I got so bored with her. I am now using lilica and also maori. The only two ppl I have played with a decent maori is Ken from NY and you.

orka
11-16-2007, 09:26 AM
lol, are you serious... my maori sucks (i assume you played me at ohio?)

while ken is doing japanese combos in the vids of him i've seen D:

BlackShinobi
11-16-2007, 10:08 AM
Pushblock isn't the that great for keeping people out in this game. they can get back on you so quick it sort of negates the point of having an pushblock.

I gotta thank dave for picking up Maori I'm finally starting to understand her movements now, especially how to get around each of her sisters

someAzNdude
11-16-2007, 10:31 AM
Pushblock isn't the that great for keeping people out in this game. they can get back on you so quick it sort of negates the point of having an pushblock.

I gotta thank dave for picking up Maori I'm finally starting to understand her movements now, especially how to get around each of her sisters

Damn! Curse you Dave! :annoy:

@Orka: wait there's a water infinite with maori and a lightning death combo??? what? this intrigues me...where can I view this other than going to japan...? :P

peskypurple
11-16-2007, 10:39 AM
I too would like to see these ... what did you call them... infinites. I haven't really seen Kamui's now banned time infinite in it's entirety so if someone wuold be so kind as to post that link I would appreciate it. I would like to see Maori's other infinites as well, which should also be banned.

Dave when have you been practicing up at UP. Let me know so I can try to get some practice in with you. I'm tired of beating up on Eric's Konoha.

orka
11-16-2007, 10:50 AM
Damn! Curse you Dave! :annoy:

@Orka: wait there's a water infinite with maori and a lightning death combo??? what? this intrigues me...where can I view this other than going to japan...? :P

i don't know the notation for either.

i've dug around in bbs but didn't get what i was looking for... but you can apparently do a 100% combo with lightning if you have 9 bars and arcana force. don't know any more than that. D:

as for the water combo, it involves re-launching the bounce on sister drop with charged 3c. i haven't tried practicing it, but it's shown in that maori combo video from that japanese arcana site (although it's capped in that one). it's apparently pretty hard.

i dunno if either of them are practical anyhow.

so yea... sorry for being useless. D:

someAzNdude
11-16-2007, 11:11 AM
i don't know the notation for either.

i've dug around in bbs but didn't get what i was looking for... but you can apparently do a 100% combo with lightning if you have 9 bars and arcana force. don't know any more than that. D:

as for the water combo, it involves re-launching the bounce on sister drop with charged 3c. i haven't tried practicing it, but it's shown in that maori combo video from that japanese arcana site (although it's capped in that one). it's apparently pretty hard.

i dunno if either of them are practical anyhow.

so yea... sorry for being useless. D:

Oh ok I've seen the water one on youtube before...that was a banned infinite? what? Doesn't that combo require homing gauges? and the 9 gauge lightning combo doesn't sound too practical although it IS possible since Maori always have 4+ super gauges most of the time :sweat:

@pesky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvGL6OFPl6s kamui time glitch combo towards the end i believe

Shinto
11-16-2007, 11:37 AM
@pesky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvGL6OFPl6s kamui time glitch combo towards the end i believe

Dope Vid, I wanna play Time Kamui.:confused:

orka
11-16-2007, 12:10 PM
Oh ok I've seen the water one on youtube before...that was a banned infinite? what? Doesn't that combo require homing gauges? and the 9 gauge lightning combo doesn't sound too practical although it IS possible since Maori always have 4+ super gauges most of the time :sweat:

well, i said i don't think they're banned... but not sure. the water one does use homing guage, but supposedly you can just dash between some of the reps without using homing cancel? not sure. :/

at any rate, i don't think either are too practical.

Luigi-Bo 87
11-16-2007, 12:16 PM
WHERE DEM TITTAYZ AT!!!:mad: [/spam]

orka
11-16-2007, 02:16 PM
hey i found the lightning death combo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=e2wD34MTJIo)

it's pretty useless...

Dave2J
11-16-2007, 02:20 PM
Hey Pesky I should be at the cade tomorrow. I will give you a call when I am on my way down. And u and Black shinobi bring plenty of $ cause I got some dangerous combos now with lilica and maori !!!!!!!!

Luigi-Bo 87
11-16-2007, 02:38 PM
hey i found the lightning death combo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=e2wD34MTJIo)

it's pretty useless...

I didn't know she could chain 3 arrow supers in a row.

peskypurple
11-16-2007, 02:41 PM
I don't know if I'll be able to come through this weekend. Family is coming through for Thanksgiving. I'll try to drag my brother through to the cade but he'll require convincing. Just hit me up with a time and I'll see if I can come through.

orka
11-16-2007, 02:55 PM
I didn't know she could chain 3 arrow supers in a row.

the super gets quicker start-up and recovery at each level. what you see there is level 2, level 2, then level 3.

Dave2J
11-16-2007, 02:56 PM
Wow Thats the first I seen a combo take over 70 percent damage

HeartNana
11-16-2007, 03:07 PM
hey i found the lightning death combo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=e2wD34MTJIo)

it's pretty useless...

that made me luwl.

NappyJin
11-17-2007, 10:42 AM
That combo was insanely boring to watch. @_@

someAzNdude
11-17-2007, 10:52 AM
I've seen that vid already, and you can't really call it a lightning death combo when the arrow supers are the one that did 70% of the combo damage... :/

woof
11-17-2007, 10:57 AM
its called a lightning death combo because the arrows are fast like lightning

D'Nyc3
11-17-2007, 11:29 AM
Any Lilica players out there?

I can't seem to get her 236 A > A+C down correctly any tips?

HeartNana
11-17-2007, 01:02 PM
Any Lilica players out there?

I can't seem to get her 236 A > A+C down correctly any tips?

Once you do a move, cancel it into 236 (or 214) a~C.

You cant just do instant cancel on its own.

Master Chibi
11-17-2007, 01:02 PM
Man I've lost alot of hype for this game in the past few weeks.

Not that I had much to begin with.

I want AH2 to come out already to see if I want to even bother at this point.

:\

HeartNana
11-17-2007, 01:04 PM
Man I've lost alot of hype for this game in the past few weeks.

Not that I had much to begin with.

I want AH2 to come out already to see if I want to even bother at this point.

:\

"Dear Diary,

Today my hope level was only 16%.

I sometimes look at the sky and wonder what it would be like to be a bird.

-Master Chibi"

Master Chibi
11-17-2007, 01:11 PM
"Dear Diary,

After watching live action Negima I've decided to become a kindergarden teacher.

For better or for or worse."

- HeartNana

D'Nyc3
11-17-2007, 02:20 PM
Once you do a move, cancel it into 236 (or 214) a~C.

You cant just do instant cancel on its own.

Can you be more precise?

Cause everytime I do her 214 or 236 a~C she just runs.

woof
11-17-2007, 02:27 PM
you have to time the input at the point where the animation ends

Tiggy
11-17-2007, 08:30 PM
"Dear Diary,

After watching live action Negima I've decided to become a kindergarden teacher.

For better or for or worse."

- HeartNana

LOLZ You guys are silly.

Can you be more precise?

Cause everytime I do her 214 or 236 a~C she just runs.

Like woof said, you have to time it before the dash ends. I've had my fair share of trouble with Lilica recently, and I've worked out the worst of the High Pressure (Accel Dash cancel) timing.

For instance, when doing the Flash Step combo, the notation often used is:

5B > 214 a~C

The 214 a~C is done right before the end of the 5B animation. The trick here is NOT pushing A, then A+C. Thanks to the way the game mechanics are designed, you're allowed to get an instant cancel by just pressing A+C....but only after doing a normal (most notably 5B). If all you're doing is 214 a~C, all she will do is dash. If you're doing 236 a~C, you should be performing the instant heel kick. You have to push 236 A (Lilica will squat, preparing to dash), then C directly after the A press. What I reccommend is just going to training mode and practicing the notation for the Flash Step I have above so you can get the jist of it.

Hope this helps, especially since it's coming from a fellow newcomer:wgrin:

Nastrodamus
11-18-2007, 12:09 PM
damn chibi then what's the point in playin if you just complain about it so hard...

like honestly..... mostly every post that you make is how much you hate the damn game... then muthafucker don't play the fucking game then if you there is so much you don't like about the damn game....:confused:


damn on the lillica troubles... hope you get it down tiggy and d'nyce...

Master Chibi
11-18-2007, 12:12 PM
I said I lost hype for the game, not "OH SHIT THIS GAME IS THE WORST TRASH EVER". I mean there's a certain level of tolerance you need just to play this game anyway.

I mean if you're up for mindless hype then go for it. NEC should be good either way (I just want to see Rob vs Arturo again, or someone wipe the damn floor with Noel). I want to comment on one match with Noel just so I can introduce him as DAY 1 KAMUI.

NappyJin
11-18-2007, 12:23 PM
mindless hype KAMUI.

That's all I saw.


Mindless hype sounds sweet, though.

DS
11-18-2007, 12:38 PM
Can you be more precise?

Cause everytime I do her 214 or 236 a~C she just runs.

2ABC HC6 5A 5B 236A+C(or 215A+C)

It's NOT that hard actually. You just hit A+C at the same time and she'll immediately stop and hit neutral stance for another 5A 5B and then you proceed into heel kick loop.

Nastrodamus
11-18-2007, 12:56 PM
it's okay to say you lost hype or whatever.... just i wish you would stop your complaining... it's not helping at all.....:rolleyes:

and yes im looking foward to rob vs. art again... but there are other matches that im looking foward to as well....

although there are some minor issues i have with the game (kamui).... they can be solved....it's more about the player getting better..... better players= fun to watch matches... and that's just not in arcana... that includes mbac, tekken, soul calibur..


but whatever just stop with the spewing garbage or complaints....cuse you have to have the foundation in place before you can build a building... so the foundation for arcana heart 1 must be first placed before AH2 can be built high (as far as community)

Master Chibi
11-18-2007, 01:05 PM
Yes yes, very nice speech Nas.

I'll give you a standing golf clap ovation at NEC buddy.

Then we can throw our sticks at the television or stomp away when we eat gier unblockable setups 500 times in a row.

;p

Farpenoodle
11-18-2007, 01:17 PM
Then we can throw our sticks at the television or stomp away when we eat gier unblockable setups 500 times in a row.

That's probably a sign to step your game up. If you're eating that many gier setups chances are UR DOIN IT WRONG.

Anyway I can't wait to get back to SG so I can flail around and eat said setups as I try to get back into the swing of things. :lol:

TitaniumBeast!
11-18-2007, 01:38 PM
it's ok guys after i'm finished with chibi you won't have to put up with his complaints anymore

or much of any sound from him

Nastrodamus
11-18-2007, 01:47 PM
of course im angry... but it's most of the time i blame myself for my losses not... " OMG THAT GUY THROWS GIER SETUPS LIKE WOE"

we can still have some food at the diner and chill.. we can still be friends... :)

but it's like man... come on you just complain hardcore about man... i just get sick of it sometimes...

Hyperhal
11-18-2007, 02:13 PM
it's ok guys after i'm finished with chibi you won't have to put up with his complaints anymore

or much of any sound from him

whats that i hear

oh its just the cops

Master Chibi
11-18-2007, 06:13 PM
That's probably a sign to step your game up. If you're eating that many gier setups chances are UR DOIN IT WRONG.

Anyway I can't wait to get back to SG so I can flail around and eat said setups as I try to get back into the swing of things. :lol:

Fiona has no way to get out of unblockable setups in the corner from Gier. I think she's got like one option worth noting, but then that's a given because she sucks anyway.

And complaining is who I am. I've stepped my game up from when I first started playing, but I will complain until I die. Sorry.

:P

Hyperhal
11-18-2007, 07:29 PM
To anyone coming down to NEC, whos all coming on Friday? I want to get a couple of Arcana stations set up, and I'm wondering if it'd be worth it to head down after school with some equipment.

Anybody figure out anything as far as changing the music? :(

DS
11-18-2007, 07:32 PM
To anyone coming down to NEC, whos all coming on Friday? I want to get a couple of Arcana stations set up, and I'm wondering if it'd be worth it to head down after school with some equipment.

Anybody figure out anything as far as changing the music? :(

I'll be there Friday. But seriously, who's playing games that night? I want to get drunk and high all at once. I mean, I guess I can play a few games or something.

HeartNana
11-18-2007, 07:51 PM
Ill be there friday. Hopefully to play some some GNT4 and AH.

orka
11-18-2007, 08:54 PM
can people point me to a good philly steak place? (i think brought this up before)

or buy me a good philly steak so i can satisfy my hunger without getting shot?

woof
11-18-2007, 09:32 PM
HeartNana: "Sex with Lilica. That's the best kind of sex."
cant wait to meet you heartnana you sound like a cool dude already...

orka
11-18-2007, 09:39 PM
"Dear Diary,

HeartNana is having sex with Lilica.

So I asked Fiona if I could have sex with her.

She said no.

Why god, why?"

- woof

Luigi-Bo 87
11-18-2007, 09:42 PM
Cuz u ain't swangin enough for her. Lilli's a fuckin BEAST in tha sheetz yo.:tup: fo real

NappyJin
11-18-2007, 09:47 PM
I never know wtf is going on in here but it's mildly entertaining.

Continue.

someAzNdude
11-18-2007, 09:47 PM
I want sum cheese steaks too D:

@Hal: I'll be there on Friday too with DS I guess...

Luigi-Bo 87
11-18-2007, 09:58 PM
I never know wtf is going on in here but it's mildly entertaining.

Continue.

You don't own me Nappy!:mad:

orka
11-18-2007, 10:00 PM
sometimes i realize i'm 10 years older than maori and that makes me feel really dirty

like a saaad panda

maybe this is why i drop combos

Makoto Scrub
11-18-2007, 10:01 PM
sometimes i realize i'm 10 years older than maori and that makes me feel really dirty

like a saaad panda

maybe this is why i drop combos
Screw that.

You need to get moar of dat miko luv.

Luigi-Bo 87
11-18-2007, 10:01 PM
Wait, you're JUST NOW frrling dirty?:wtf: After all you said you're JUST NOW feeling dirty? For shame Yosh, for shame. The news lady in this game is so fine and she's legal to boot.:tup:

orka
11-18-2007, 10:04 PM
naw, i'm always filthy. i could never rub enough lard off my 300 lbs body and grease out of my long hair when i shower.

in the drama cd, kira and lieselotte say some mean things to the announcer girl. they call her "old hag" and stuff. damn lolis. D:

BlackShinobi
11-18-2007, 10:06 PM
I'm starting to worry my arcana stick is going to get here before NEC. :sad:
I think its going to be down to the wire if it does get here.

Luigi-Bo 87
11-18-2007, 10:15 PM
naw, i'm always filthy. i could never rub enough lard off my 300 lbs body and grease out of my long hair when i shower.



:shake: With the lies.:shake: You know you are a dancer. Don't make me put the vids up in here.:rofl:(goes 2 bed)

NappyJin
11-18-2007, 11:01 PM
You don't own me Nappy!:mad:

LOL.


NO COMMENT.


*INSERT MINDLESS HYPE*

woof
11-19-2007, 12:46 AM
"Dear Diary,

HeartNana is having sex with Lilica.

So I asked Fiona if I could have sex with her.

She said no.

Why god, why?"

- woof
thats a lie because i dont type with proper capitalization

also fionas cool and id go bowling with her and stuff but id rather fuck lilica; she was my first char after all .. cant forget my roots

[if i dropped lilica for fiona .. does that make lilica my ex??? :wonder:]

HeartNana
11-19-2007, 12:52 AM
thats a lie because i dont type with proper capitalization

also fionas cool and id go bowling with her and stuff but id rather fuck lilica; she was my first char after all .. cant forget my roots

[if i dropped lilica for fiona .. does that make lilica my ex??? :wonder:]

no cause she's always been mine.:wgrin:

woof
11-19-2007, 04:32 AM
no cause she's always been mine.:wgrin:
no she belongs to everyone

this is lilica were talkin abotu

Faight
11-19-2007, 04:50 AM
You guys are so far beyond normal that you're building fleshlights in to your sticks so that when you play your favorite character you can get off.

Actually that sounds like a good idea. To the drawing board!

Sabin
11-19-2007, 07:12 AM
I mean if you're up for mindless hype then go for it. NEC should be good either way (I just want to see Rob vs Arturo again, or someone wipe the damn floor with Noel). I want to comment on one match with Noel just so I can introduce him as DAY 1 KAMUI.

chibi, you whine and complain too much to even get out of gier setups anyway. When someone does a gier setup why don't you let go of the controls? It would be easier for all of us :rofl:

actually there are universal things you can do to avoid gier traps. the stuff i keep hitting ppl with over and over again doesnt work in Japan, nope sorry, people don't just whine and they actually get out of stuff.

why don't you beat Noel yourself instead of "wishing for someone else to beat him" He IS DAY 1 Kamui and he's not good at all, but he takes out anyone NOT from NY (with a few exceptions) for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Why don't you ponder on that, then go cry about gier setups some more.

this message has been brought to you by ARCANA H8

PaRt2
11-19-2007, 08:05 AM
Wow....!

CoosCoos
11-19-2007, 09:15 AM
chibi, you whine and complain too much to even get out of gier setups anyway. When someone does a gier setup why don't you let go of the controls? It would be easier for all of us :rofl:

actually there are universal things you can do to avoid gier traps. the stuff i keep hitting ppl with over and over again doesnt work in Japan, nope sorry, people don't just whine and they actually get out of stuff.

why don't you beat Noel yourself instead of "wishing for someone else to beat him" He IS DAY 1 Kamui and he's not good at all, but he takes out anyone NOT from NY (with a few exceptions) for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Why don't you ponder on that, then go cry about gier setups some more.

this message has been brought to you by ARCANA H8

:rofl::rofl:

Anyway back to some serious stuff. I'm teaching some people this. What are some general things that I can teach em?

There is so much to this game, and I've taught them some of the general stuff(basics like Guard/Homing Canceling, teching, and really easy ass combos for now), I showed them the wiki, so I'm sure they'll practice the combos.

But what other general stuff should I teach them? One plays Heart, one plays Fiona, and one plays Mei-Fang if that helps.

xS A M U R A Ix
11-19-2007, 10:13 AM
So, I fought my first good Kira this weekend, he started the round with a super grab as I threw out 5B, grabbed it and shit did like 55% from full health. I heard some one behind me say "THAT'S WRONG!".

Got third in the tourney though so it's all good. Wish I could come to NEC and play you guys.

Luigi-Bo 87
11-19-2007, 10:15 AM
LOL.


NO COMMENT.


*INSERT MINDLESS HYPE*

That's right.

no she belongs to everyone

this is lilica were talkin abotu

Ya'll better stop talkin' about my girl!:mad::annoy:

Hyperhal
11-19-2007, 10:40 AM
I want sum cheese steaks too D:

@Hal: I'll be there on Friday too with DS I guess...

Trade you dem meatbuns for dem cheesesteaks. But in all seriousness, I'll probably bring a couple on Friday, maybe 4 if I can manage correctly.

Sabin
11-19-2007, 10:50 AM
:rofl::rofl:

Anyway back to some serious stuff. I'm teaching some people this. What are some general things that I can teach em?

There is so much to this game, and I've taught them some of the general stuff(basics like Guard/Homing Canceling, teching, and really easy ass combos for now), I showed them the wiki, so I'm sure they'll practice the combos.

But what other general stuff should I teach them? One plays Heart, one plays Fiona, and one plays Mei-Fang if that helps.

kinda too general to answer breifly, if you can get vids of your friends playing, then ill look at them and critique some if you like. honestly writing out "what you should teach them" takes waaay too long without a point of reference to start off.

anyway, new vids
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=FUJIMISO&p=r

new fiona setup -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8EIXxWmyD4

oooh!! tons of potential here. i cant read the japanese but from what im seeing...fiona does clean hit super, activates arcana, then neutral double jumps? (in order to keep her body backturned) then does nine-tails super which tracks torward fiona. fiona didnt do anything afterwards, but i know you cannot GC when you are blocking ninetails until after it leaves the screen...they are stuck and im assuming you get a free 3c or whatever into near-death combo.

kinda situational but i can see it used in gameplay if someone mastered the setup and they are near the corner.

btw, theres lots of new combos from that youtube user for a few diff chars, so check it out fo sho.

also new vids on henvoke http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=henvoke <- 3 new ones. i havent gotten around to watching any of this stuff yet. actually i havent been posting video updates lately cause ive been kinda busy...

nec is coming soon....we need a practice session. rob fessed up to me that hes been having hardcore sessions when he has time (yeah i knew it all along, :P) so i wanna get myself in tip top form. I havent played any arcana since ohio, so let me know.

Mizuki
11-19-2007, 11:01 AM
I like how Hal's rep says he can win tourneys...
That's all.

<3 Hal I think...

NappyJin
11-19-2007, 11:17 AM
Clean hit makes me cringe...


That was just odd, though. @_@

Shinto
11-19-2007, 12:53 PM
nec is coming soon....we need a practice session. rob fessed up to me that hes been having hardcore sessions when he has time (yeah i knew it all along, :P) so i wanna get myself in tip top form. I havent played any arcana since ohio, so let me know.

Just say the place....

Anyone talk about where niggas is bunkin at nec?

Sp00ky
11-19-2007, 01:03 PM
You stay at the hotel when you go to nec. Anything else would be uncivilized.

Capps Indigo
11-19-2007, 01:06 PM
shinto, are arcana sprites up somewhere? =D

hey guys, here's one of the few non-kamui matches from sb2, just uploaded. KIRA v MAORI.. epic battle. major lolz. SB2 - Arcana Heart Full - Keits (KI) v orka (MA) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFBK4b9zpq0)

playlist for all sb2 vids i recorded: here (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=86F21FCD4A0A9BF9)

orka
11-19-2007, 01:07 PM
nooo. not to make excuses... but that's the first time ever i picked lightning, period. not sure why. but the important thing is that i defeated flat chest.

where my champagne and hoes at, cuz?

:encore:

Shinto
11-19-2007, 01:14 PM
You stay at the hotel when you go to nec. Anything else would be uncivilized.

I know the hotel and what not but I'm talkin about prices and rooms and when niggas leavin and all that type of goodness.

Luigi-Bo 87
11-19-2007, 01:14 PM
You stay at the hotel when you go to nec. Anything else would be uncivilized.

I so can't remember who originally said that lol.

nooo. not to make excuses... but that's the first time ever i picked lightning, period. not sure why. but the important thing is that i defeated flat chest.

where my champagne and hoes at, cuz?

:encore:

Fluke.:bluu: Adam gave you that win so that you could feel good about yourself.

Why do I suck with Kamui?:sad: Me and air combos don't get along to well.

orka
11-19-2007, 01:17 PM
um, are you implying you like flat chests? is that it, luigi?

man... you used to be cool.

Shinto
11-19-2007, 01:18 PM
Why do I suck with Kamui?:sad: Me and air combos don't get along to well.

Damn homey thats not a good look.Kamui is like air you don't have control over it you just breathe.Simple.

shinto, are arcana sprites up somewhere? =D


Yea there up...kinda a pain to work with since there individuals....Sprites. (http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/arcanaheart/)

Luigi-Bo 87
11-19-2007, 01:21 PM
um, are you implying you like flat chests? is that it, luigi?

man... you used to be cool.

First of all, I like a nice fat bootay.
Second of all, I like tittays, tig ol' bitties, whatever you want to call them.
Third of all, you need to stop with this whole " I like girls, especially little girls" act Yosh. Go do another gay music video.:arazz::rofl:


Damn homey thats not a good look.Kamui is like air you don't have control over it you just breathe.Simple.


I know, I just suck at remembering character heights and sizes son.:sweat:

Sp00ky
11-19-2007, 01:23 PM
Friday night is the best chance to get early hotel room casuals since theres literally nothing going on. Usually everyone leaves on sunday night except stragglers and lazy people like me.

woof
11-19-2007, 03:20 PM
new fiona setup -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8EIXxWmyD4

oooh!! tons of potential here. i cant read the japanese but from what im seeing...fiona does clean hit super, activates arcana, then neutral double jumps? (in order to keep her body backturned) then does nine-tails super which tracks torward fiona. fiona didnt do anything afterwards, but i know you cannot GC when you are blocking ninetails until after it leaves the screen...they are stuck and im assuming you get a free 3c or whatever into near-death combo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_4i3Zqb3V0
ez mode version


nec is like what, 1.5 weeks away now????

Waluigi-Soap
11-19-2007, 06:09 PM
I was clearing everybody's storymode and I ended up glitching the game when I activated immediately after mildred's super. The game just got pretty stuck and I couldn't continue fighting. I reset the game, but later I ended up doing it AGAIN. To my surprise I was able to use the start menu and I used that to go straight to the character select screen. I started playing again and got these cool things.

http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch0.jpg
(http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch0.jpg)
http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch1.jpg
(http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch1.jpg)
http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch2.jpg
(http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch2.jpg)

It did this every match until I beat mildred again.

Somebody already did a vid showing the first glitch though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zFuqGPBEJo

Wonder if anybody else bumped into these.

unvrsty pnbal
11-19-2007, 06:18 PM
why does the "EASY MODE" version of that combo take a 32 hit combo and 3 more levels to work.

woof
11-19-2007, 06:23 PM
why does the "EASY MODE" version of that combo take a 32 hit combo and 3 more levels to work.
because in this equation for ol american joe generic combo is a lot easier to pull off than clean hit super

throw the if then out the window and consider how many people can actually do clean hit super all the time reliably in comparison to somethin like that

ryu-bi
11-19-2007, 06:23 PM
I was clearing everybody's storymode and I ended up glitching the game when I activated immediately after mildred's super. The game just got pretty stuck and I couldn't continue fighting. I reset the game, but later I ended up doing it AGAIN. To my surprise I was able to use the start menu and I used that to go straight to the character select screen. I started playing again and got these cool things.

http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch0.jpg
(http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch0.jpg)
http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch1.jpg
(http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch1.jpg)
http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch2.jpg
(http://soap.leafo.net/junk/arcanaglitch2.jpg)

It did this every match until I beat mildred again.

Somebody already did a vid showing the first glitch though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zFuqGPBEJo

Wonder if anybody else bumped into these.

- the now loading thing happened to me too, it's gone after i eject the game and put it back in

- never encountered the mildred glitch but it's pretty sad if you are fighting her to unlock graphics and this shit happens. But one time she does the super and she never reappears until time up. Everything's fine in round 2.

unvrsty pnbal
11-19-2007, 06:28 PM
because in this equation for ol american joe generic combo is a lot easier to pull off than clean hit super

throw the if then out the window and consider how many people can actually do clean hit super all the time reliably in comparison to somethin like that

I just don't get how thats not the second or third thing you learn with fiona. If my character had a way to do 70% on one hit I would make learning that move a priority. Theres people doing flash step combos with lilica, how hard can this one hit be?

orka
11-19-2007, 06:31 PM
woof, what's the probability of your opponent's sprite turning into marn after clean hit sacred bringer?

woof
11-19-2007, 06:35 PM
I just don't get how thats not the second or third thing you learn with fiona. If my character had a way to do 70% on one hit I would make learning that move a priority. Theres people doing flash step combos with lilica, how hard can this one hit be?
flash step combos arent that hard in comparison

landing clean hit super more than 50% of the time is v. difficult because the timing is way diff than reg clean hit and thats something ive been trying to practice for a while now. in comparison, doing a generic long combo is a whole lot easier to master than being able to do clean hit super reliably enough to be "guaranteed"

woof, what's the probability of your opponent's sprite turning into marn after clean hit sacred bringer?
1% it only happens in training mode luckily i took a screencap of it

Fatal K.O
11-19-2007, 06:36 PM
Fiona has no way to get out of unblockable setups in the corner from Gier. I think she's got like one option worth noting, but then that's a given because she sucks anyway.
:P

I need to eat one of those setups one of these days or at least see it. School is kicking my ass so I can't run down to cf as frequently as I want. Mostly getting trashed by Poison, Lightning, and Fire there, plus this one time with Water bubble shenanigans. Art was whooping me with Gier but that was like back in the spring/summer so I don't remember much. :looney:

So I'm guessing 236236D (I use Fire Fiona) or just general Homing Cancel stuff can't save you?

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 06:38 PM
chibi, you whine and complain too much to even get out of gier setups anyway. When someone does a gier setup why don't you let go of the controls? It would be easier for all of us :rofl:

actually there are universal things you can do to avoid gier traps. the stuff i keep hitting ppl with over and over again doesnt work in Japan, nope sorry, people don't just whine and they actually get out of stuff.

why don't you beat Noel yourself instead of "wishing for someone else to beat him" He IS DAY 1 Kamui and he's not good at all, but he takes out anyone NOT from NY (with a few exceptions) for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Why don't you ponder on that, then go cry about gier setups some more.

this message has been brought to you by ARCANA H8

1. Go pick a better fucking game to represent. And no, I'm not talking about Melty Blood smartass.

2. I've spent every get together with Zaelar (for the past month) trying to figure how to get out of unblockable set-ups in the corner. Fiona's got only one option, outside of that I pretty much end up eating the set up. So if you've got a way to get me out of that shit in the corner, let me know already. I don't have a problem playing Zaelar until he gets that lucky hit into set up, so spill it so he can start sucking on the business end of Fiona's Buster Sword.

3. This game is already fading out in NYC anyway. I'm not naming names but a good chunk of folks that went to W2Z are already bored / not hype for the game anymore, myself obviously included.

4. I'll complain about this game another month from now. As per usual. I don't think I'll ever be comfortable enough to just 100% accept / tolerate this game anyway, so at NEC people can refer to me as Master Bitchy on the mic for all I care.

woof
11-19-2007, 06:40 PM
1. Go pick a better fucking game to represent. And no, I'm not talking about Melty Blood smartass.

2. I've spent every get together with Zaelar (for the past month) trying to figure how to get out of unblockable set-ups in the corner. Fiona's got only one option, outside of that I pretty much end up eating the set up. So if you've got a way to get me out of that shit in the corner, let me know already.

3. This game is already fading out in NYC anyway. I'm not naming names but a good chunk of folks that went to W2Z are already bored / not hype for the game anymore, myself obviously included.

4. I'll complain about this game another month from now. As per usual.
shutup

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 06:42 PM
shutup

no u

NappyJin
11-19-2007, 06:42 PM
Oh Shit.

Woof And Arturo Vs. Chibi In A Sock Em Boppers Match!!!

Gogogogogogogogogogogogo!!!!!

orka
11-19-2007, 06:47 PM
i'm still new at the game (and suck at it), but for all i know... super gier set up isn't that menacing most of the time. it seems like main purpose of that super is to keep your opponent glued to the ground so you can get a pressure in. even from watching matches, the only times people seem to get hit is if they panic and try to force their way out. seems more like a psyche strategy, if anything.

the only thing in this game that resembles brokenness on wake-up to me is: lieselotte doing double marker after capping a loop in the corner, and charge 6c into lightning super. i don't even know if there are others that's considered a legitimate "unblockable" setups on wake up that you can do consistently.

so yea, i think most stuff is legit. i've been playing gg for 2.5 years now and i've definitely seen way more stuff that's tougher or just plain bullshit to deal with on wake-up in that game.

also chibi... doesn't fiona have perhaps the best charge 3c in the game? the range on that shit is huge, and it's instant money if you have fire.

Tiggy
11-19-2007, 06:55 PM
damn on the lillica troubles... hope you get it down tiggy and d'nyce...

Don't worry bout me dawg. I'm gettin it down step by step. I actually picked up Lilica's advanced stuff a lot quicker than I thought I would (thanks to the folks here on SRK and at the Wiki:lovin:). If we ever go at it again, you'll see I've gotten a little better. My Lise on the other hand......I'm working on it:sweat:

I said I lost hype for the game, not "OH SHIT THIS GAME IS THE WORST TRASH EVER". I mean there's a certain level of tolerance you need just to play this game anyway.

:rofl::lol: I understand where you're coming from with the tolerance thing. I loved the game from day one....but sometimes it's hard to jump into training and do it for more than 45 minutes.

whats that i hear

oh its just the cops

You're silly:rofl:

Ill be there friday. Hopefully to play some some GNT4 and AH.

You play GNT4 too?!?:pray:

no she belongs to everyone

this is lilica were talkin abotu

I guess that makes Lilica the 'Arcana Hoe'...even I use her. Just look at her win poses:bgrin:

Damn homey thats not a good look.Kamui is like air you don't have control over it you just breathe.Simple.



Yea there up...kinda a pain to work with since there individuals....Sprites. (http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/arcanaheart/)

Good look on the sprites. I have missed so much stuff on this board in the past few days or so. What day does NEC fall on? I wish I could go.....good luck to all attendees!! Go for 100+ hit loops orka:wgrin:

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 07:01 PM
i'm still new at the game (and suck at it), but for all i know... super gier set up isn't that menacing most of the time. it seems like main purpose of that super is to keep your opponent glued to the ground so you can get a pressure in. even from watching matches, the only times people seem to get hit is if they panic and try to force their way out. seems more like a psyche strategy, if anything.

the only thing in this game that resembles brokenness on wake-up to me is: lieselotte doing double marker after capping a loop in the corner, and charge 6c into lightning super. i don't even know if there are others that's considered a legitimate "unblockable" setups on wake up that you can do consistently.

so yea, i think most stuff is legit. i've been playing gg for 2.5 years now and i've definitely seen way more stuff that's tougher or just plain bullshit to deal with on wake-up in that game.

also chibi... doesn't fiona have perhaps the best charge 3c in the game? the range on that shit is huge, and it's instant money if you have fire.

Noone in GG has two unblockable normals, though there are obviously characters that have unblockable sets up. I'm either getting hit by gier or hit by the charged normal.

NappyJin
11-19-2007, 07:07 PM
Noone in GG has two unblockable normals, though there are obviously characters that have unblockable sets up. I'm either getting hit by gier or hit by the charged normal.



You need dat Crack Kick. That'll save you.

HeartNana
11-19-2007, 07:08 PM
Don't worry bout me dawg. I'm gettin it down step by step. I actually picked up Lilica's advanced stuff a lot quicker than I thought I would (thanks to the folks here on SRK and at the Wiki:lovin:).
Wow, thank god someone actually read it. I feel like i spent a ton of time writing it just for nobody to read it.

You play GNT4 too?!?:pray: I think i should be saying that to you. I've never seen you post on willvo or in any tourney results or anything, lol. $$$ match? Who do you use in GNT?

Shinto
11-19-2007, 07:13 PM
shutup

I smell Hate!

I want to go to a arcana get together.....Nyc make it happen.

FaceMeAndBeBroken
11-19-2007, 07:16 PM
Does this play on a US PS3 with no problem?

DS
11-19-2007, 07:16 PM
Does this play on a US PS3 with no problem?

No. Buy a Japanese PS2 or get a Swap Disc.

Shinto
11-19-2007, 07:18 PM
Make it happen DS!

BlackShinobi
11-19-2007, 08:16 PM
4. I'll complain about this game another month from now. As per usual. I don't think I'll ever be comfortable enough to just 100% accept / tolerate this game anyway, so at NEC people can refer to me as Master Bitchy on the mic for all I care.

Done and Done
Any other NEC name change requests :lol:

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 08:19 PM
Noel = Day 1
Woof = Mr. Clean
SK = Boy and his Blob
Rob = Ten and Under please.

HeartNana
11-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Actually, my preferred range is 12-17...

So for NEC, my money matches (for AH) are:
SK Kira vs Kira 3/5 for $10
Deathscythe Team Loliblades Lilica duel FT5 for $10
Master Chibi HATE FILLED LOVE MATCH 3/5 for $Box of cookies
Shinto FT5 $10
Makoto_Scrub FT5 $10

Get hype.

DS
11-19-2007, 08:27 PM
Actually, my preferred range is 12-17...

So for NEC, so far my only money match is:
SK Kira vs Kira 3/5 for $10

Get hype.

I'LL TAKE THE CASE!

ft5 for $10. Make it so, Rob. <3

HeartNana
11-19-2007, 08:32 PM
Sweet, sounds good. <3

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 08:40 PM
I'll take one with you, 3/5 for $10.

Maybe.

HeartNana
11-19-2007, 08:43 PM
Heh, sounds good, im calling it the HATE FILLED LOVE MATCH. :D

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 08:44 PM
Actually, I'll wager an entire box of cookies instead.

HeartNana
11-19-2007, 08:46 PM
Fine by me, lol. Itll be far more epic that way.

woof
11-19-2007, 09:04 PM
DS: twinkle starsprites mm 3/5 10$

i forget everyone else cause its not as important as this



oh and MChibi: arcana mm FRX rematch fiona vs lilica 3/5 loser has to do 1 drawing of whatever winner wants

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 09:05 PM
done and done

<3

orka
11-19-2007, 09:08 PM
i'll wager a sock

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 09:10 PM
ankle sock?

Zee Tee Bee
11-19-2007, 09:13 PM
Please keep that avatar forever chibi (or make me one) :tup:. This is 100% not at all sarcasm btw

Tiggy
11-19-2007, 09:14 PM
Wow, thank god someone actually read it. I feel like i spent a ton of time writing it just for nobody to read it.

I think i should be saying that to you. I've never seen you post on willvo or in any tourney results or anything, lol. $$$ match? Who do you use in GNT?

Oh yeah...I even printed off combos and practiced memorizing the notations. That's right....I said practiced memorizing the notations.

I never posted on Shoryuken until September this year either. I was never a big forum poster until Pokemon this past summer...gamefaqs.com got me addicted to Pokemon and forum posting. Thank goodness I stopped playing it back in July:sweat: I use several characters in GNT4. Some are more solid than others, but I have at least two good combos and strategies for each character I play. I played a couple of casuals at SB II. But before that....ummmm......earlier this year (February or March I think), before my Freeloader disc got broken:sad: I have yet to buy a new one, thanks to games like Arcana Hate...I mean, Heart.

I have GOT to find a way to travel more, so I can play some good people in AH and some other games. Nobody outside my circle of five friends plays/knows about/cares about AH in Ohio. I think I'm the only one who plays/knows about/cares about AH to an extreme:lovin: One of my friends has played it once, and hates it...he hated it after seeing Maori loops in YT vids:rofl:

Does this play on a US PS3 with no problem?

On a US PS3, no. On a Japanese PS3, yes. But you have to buy PS2 to PS3 controller convertors to use stick on the PS3, which have a very slight delay. Controller convertors in general have delays, but it's nothing too extreme (unless you're playing Tekken or Soul Calibur, then you might notice a lag). Your best bet is to -- as Deathscythe said -- buy a Japanese PS2 or a Swap Disc. The Swap Disc is your best bet (about $30-$40), unless you have about an extra $200-$300 laying around. Importing is a b****.:annoy: I'd buy one myself for my PS2, but.....I'm trying to save my money for a $400 laptop at Wal-Mart on Black Friday:lovin:

DS
11-19-2007, 09:15 PM
DS: twinkle starsprites mm 3/5 10$

i forget everyone else cause its not as important as this


Nothing is as important as TSS. Arthur > you.

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 09:17 PM
Please keep that avatar forever chibi (or make me one) :tup:. This is 100% not at all sarcasm btw

Do you want one just like it?

I can use her other pose where she puts her arms underneat them oil bags.

Mr. Mamation
11-19-2007, 09:28 PM
woof: Fiona unblockabling marns face is godlike

woof
11-19-2007, 09:33 PM
actually if its a FRX rematch then technically youd have to play kamui since you never got the oppurtunity to use fiona at that time


so its your kamui vs my lilica

Shinto
11-19-2007, 09:37 PM
Yall niggas gay. I want a money match!

Master Chibi
11-19-2007, 09:38 PM
actually if its a FRX rematch then technically youd have to play kamui since you never got the oppurtunity to use fiona at that time


so its your kamui vs my lilica

oh joy

:looney:

HeartNana
11-19-2007, 09:40 PM
Yall niggas gay. I want a money match!

FT5 $10?

Shinto
11-19-2007, 09:42 PM
FT5 $10?

:smile: cool.

Makoto Scrub
11-19-2007, 09:45 PM
Damnit, now I'm going to have to donate to the "help pay for Rob's trip to NEC fund"

FT5 for $10?

XAQshinor
11-19-2007, 09:48 PM
Please keep that avatar forever chibi (or make me one) :tup:. This is 100% not at all sarcasm btw

go back to ur flatchested suitcase loli :|.

orka
11-19-2007, 09:48 PM
makoto_scrub, how about miko bubz money match? ft3 for $5... or $10? i don't care either way. i just don't want ft5 cus that's too long.

you saw my vid. free money fo you.

Makoto Scrub
11-19-2007, 10:02 PM
makoto_scrub, how about miko bubz money match? ft3 for $5... or $10? i don't care either way. i just don't want ft5 cus that's too long.

you saw my vid. free money fo you.
Accepted.

BlackShinobi
11-19-2007, 10:08 PM
Someone play me for money preferably some who sucks, And noone from philly.
Word on the street is its free money.
I can't even land a BnB.

Hyperhal
11-19-2007, 10:11 PM
Damnit, now I'm going to have to donate to the "help pay for Rob's trip to NEC fund"

FT5 for $10?

I like the "Help Hyperhal get into NEC" donation drive

Zee Tee Bee
11-19-2007, 10:20 PM
go back to ur flatchested suitcase loli :|.

Ummm, i can care less about MF. It's the context of the avatar that I appreciate (lol satire). :clown:

Shinto
11-19-2007, 11:01 PM
I like the "Help Hyperhal get into NEC" donation drive

Nigga you live in philly:rofl:

Oh into LOL, how much It to get in?

FaceMeAndBeBroken
11-19-2007, 11:07 PM
No. Buy a Japanese PS2 or get a Swap Disc.

Well I got rid of PS2 system when I got the next gens.

So basically I'm shit out of luck if I want this game.

I could have sworn someone was playing this on a PS3 at seasons beating 2.

And the idiot that gave me a neg. WTF? I remember why I did't like this site.

xS A M U R A Ix
11-19-2007, 11:36 PM
new arcana avatars are hype.

Lobelia Prime
11-19-2007, 11:44 PM
Awww, I want a Yoriko avatar....but I like my Fio one better, so mehhh.

Hyperhal
11-19-2007, 11:57 PM
What are you serious people actually want Yoriko avatars?

Shinto, $15 cover fee then blargh for whatever tourney

I like how you changed your avatar like 5 times tonight

Lobelia Prime
11-20-2007, 12:03 AM
What are you serious people actually want Yoriko avatars?
*points to sig* I'm a Yoriko player, holmes.

someAzNdude
11-20-2007, 12:23 AM
Shinto I'll mm you, ft3 for $10 lets do this! :)
@Chibi: I want in on that cookie mm :D
@Makoto_Scrub: Dude I thought you weren't coming to NEC, EC's best Maori title match ft3 for $10 lets do it! >:)

rush down
11-20-2007, 12:44 AM
I see people talking about money matches and stuff, but is this game really tounament quality? This is probably a bad place to ask, but do you think this game will have a good run (long lifespan)? Also, how spread are the tiers in AH full? Is the game well balanced or does everyone play the same 3 or 4 characters? I have this game, but is it worth studying up on?

HeartNana
11-20-2007, 01:11 AM
Damnit, now I'm going to have to donate to the "help pay for Rob's trip to NEC fund"

FT5 for $10?

lol, it doesnt have to be in AH, if you'de rather do an SC3 one, ill do that, too. :)

Shinto
11-20-2007, 04:48 AM
I see people talking about money matches and stuff, but is this game really tounament quality? This is probably a bad place to ask, but do you think this game will have a good run (long lifespan)? Also, how spread are the tiers in AH full? Is the game well balanced or does everyone play the same 3 or 4 characters? I have this game, but is it worth studying up on?

Well we are guaranteed a sequel coming out in Winter so that adds about 1 yr to it's life span.

Ken been dodging me, wouldn't even accept my IM's :sad::lol:

Sure I'm up for it.

Sabin
11-20-2007, 06:43 AM
snip
damn man, i give up. you always bitch, then you apologize about it, only to do the same thing a month later again. its happened repeatedly over the past year. I don't know why you keep going thru the same cycle but whatever.

as for your other points

1) dude be serious ive spent almost a year playing this game hardbody.

2) i gave u some advice on irc last night. i cant go into how to get out of every setup, but orka summed it up very well. why are u so smart orka? haha


i'm still new at the game (and suck at it), but for all i know... super gier set up isn't that menacing most of the time. it seems like main purpose of that super is to keep your opponent glued to the ground so you can get a pressure in. even from watching matches, the only times people seem to get hit is if they panic and try to force their way out. seems more like a psyche strategy, if anything.

i dont know why you try to bitch first and then ask questions later - it should be the other way around.

3) dunno what you want me to say to ths...i cant help nameless people that you wont reveal that clearly dont wanna b helped. i think myself and a few others have made ourselves more than accessable in regards to help and advice for the game. if people are losin interest then theres nothin i can do about it except help ppl that do ask for help. i dunno how you expected me to respond to this.

4) if youre going to btch, at least do it inthe context of asking for help. theres not more i can ask ote than that.

dunno why i even bothered to respond seriously

Sabin
11-20-2007, 06:53 AM
I see people talking about money matches and stuff, but is this game really tounament quality?


Yes, as evidenced by tourneys in the USA and Japan over the past year.


This is probably a bad place to ask, but do you think this game will have a good run (long lifespan)?


ah2 has been announced since way back, so im not sure how much longer this game will last. it depends on a number of things, like when ah2 comes out/console release of ah2. too murky now. i think the game has longevity but a sequel is on the way, so the future of the game is unclear right now.


Also, how spread are the tiers in AH full? Is the game well balanced or does everyone play the same 3 or 4 characters? I have this game, but is it worth studying up on?

first post will answer your questions about tiers. no not everyone plays the same 3/4 chars (at least not in japan anyway...) as for whether it's worth studying on, well, i dont know why youre asking us, since obviously we have a skewed opinion. thats up to you, if you like the feel of the game and have comp to play with. if your location is in japan as you say, why don't you go to some local arcades that have ah and watch some good comp and decide for yourself thru that or match vids.

there are a lot of nuances to this game, as it is with any tourney worthy fighter so youll have to do your homework.

BlackShinobi
11-20-2007, 12:12 PM
I've got a free day so I think its time to get some much needed practice in.

There are 40 or 50 people in AH for NEC, as much as Id like to think I've got a free pass on anyone not from here or New York and a few other people I know thats not the case.

Be warned people, Johnny Donuts does exist and hes coming for you at NEC. :wink: :lol:

peskypurple
11-20-2007, 02:35 PM
Eric, What's up with that stick....

BTW, have I ever told how much I respect Konoha and the people that play with her.

Are we still on for our MM?

As for the rest of y'all. I look forward to playing some of you for the first time: Ken and Sabin. Damn, I'm getting kind of hype.

DS
11-20-2007, 03:01 PM
Shit, I gotta hella money matches at NEC. How about we start challenging other players as well? We come in here and pop off at the mouth and yet, everyone holding on a little too tight to their wallets. I think Peskypurple and Nas are the only two coming up with the money matches. Oh, and maybe that Dave guy. I like how he's playing Lilica now. Nigga better train hardbody cause Lilica can lose as easily as she can hit loop.

So, here's my list of victims:

Peskypurple
Dave
Doren
Nas

And I probably forgot some others, but I guess they're not that important. Also, get hype, bitches. Till then I will be butt hurt and looking for that Icy Hot cause there will be pain present at NEC. Also, you might as well write in 'NYC' at the top ten spots.


I also forgot that the following people will own my soul and take the rest of my money:

Saotome Kaneda

Makoto Scrub
11-20-2007, 03:32 PM
Someone play me for money preferably some who sucks, And noone from philly.
Word on the street is its free money.
I can't even land a BnB.
FT3 for $10?

I like the "Help Hyperhal get into NEC" donation drive
I want that $10 in cash thnx.

@Makoto_Scrub: Dude I thought you weren't coming to NEC, EC's best Maori title match ft3 for $10 lets do it! >:)
IF I manage to get some serious studying done between now and the Thursday before NEC I should be good.

lol, it doesnt have to be in AH, if you'de rather do an SC3 one, ill do that, too. :)
How about we do both?

Keits
11-20-2007, 03:40 PM
Finally saw my match vs Orka from SB2. Epic! I need to stick out crouching C more to make him worry :(

Mizuki
11-20-2007, 03:42 PM
I bet if I entered NEC from Cali, I'll still place higher than Doren.

HeartNana
11-20-2007, 03:56 PM
How about we do both?
If you're up for it, im up for it. :lovin:

Makoto Scrub
11-20-2007, 04:13 PM
If you're up for it, im up for it. :lovin:
Good.

I'll be able to break even then. x)

woof
11-20-2007, 04:13 PM
I bet if I entered NEC from Cali, I'll still place higher than Doren.
its not hard

Demon_Hyo
11-20-2007, 04:50 PM
Is this still a hype tournament for NEC8? Been a while since I've posted here, so I'm not sure anymore.

someAzNdude
11-20-2007, 05:22 PM
Is this still a hype tournament for NEC8? Been a while since I've posted here, so I'm not sure anymore.

Damn right it is! :lovin:

woof
11-20-2007, 05:26 PM
Is this still a hype tournament for NEC8? Been a while since I've posted here, so I'm not sure anymore.
:rofl:

orka
11-20-2007, 07:03 PM
guys, we need to raise activity at guardcrush.

i made a thread (http://%3Cbr%20/%3E%0Ahttp://guardcrush.net/forums/showthread.php?t=953) just for it. hype hype hype.

Master Chibi
11-20-2007, 07:31 PM
dunno why i even bothered to respond seriously

Fuck you.

Fuck your game.

Fuck the fact that this thread is still a sticky.

Fuck it all sideways too.

:rofl:

Zee Tee Bee
11-20-2007, 07:54 PM
:wow:

Oh shiiii - overt hate.........

:tup:

.........................but you may want to leave it at that otherwise...you may tempt the gods. :pray:

Sabin
11-20-2007, 08:01 PM
Fuck you.

Fuck your game.

Fuck the fact that this thread is still a sticky.

Fuck it all sideways too.

:rofl:

damn chibs, u really are a lost cause. at least if i try to help you out seriously, plz respond in kind man, damn. save that spamming shit for irc. theres no reason to be all flippant and careless about it. oh well, see you at nec, and ill be sure to call you master bitchy on the mic. :rofl:

and yeah i was gonna edit your post and put something witty there cause im tired of u spamming on this thread, but im not really good at insults/witty stuff like DS/SK are, so you got off this time.. :looney:

----
on topic -

wow, this steel kira user makes this saki gier look like shit hahaha. his gier setups got owned FREE!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZSP51zuUB0

Master Chibi
11-20-2007, 08:04 PM
:wow:

Oh shiiii - overt hate.........

:tup:

.........................but you may want to leave it at that otherwise...you may tempt the gods. :pray:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I ain't afraid of no gods.

Sabin, do whatever you want man.

I will anti-hype the shit out of this game at nec, bet it.

Silent Shinobi
11-20-2007, 08:08 PM
Shit, I gotta hella money matches at NEC. How about we start challenging other players as well? We come in here and pop off at the mouth and yet, everyone holding on a little too tight to their wallets. I think Peskypurple and Nas are the only two coming up with the money matches. Oh, and maybe that Dave guy. I like how he's playing Lilica now. Nigga better train hardbody cause Lilica can lose as easily as she can hit loop.

So, here's my list of victims:

Peskypurple
Dave
Doren
Nas

And I probably forgot some others, but I guess they're not that important. Also, get hype, bitches. Till then I will be butt hurt and looking for that Icy Hot cause there will be pain present at NEC. Also, you might as well write in 'NYC' at the top ten spots.


I also forgot that the following people will own my soul and take the rest of my money:

Saotome Kaneda

This is Doren2k on SilentShinobi's computer. And I just came to say nigga you suck DS. Prepare to give me mah money nigga.

orka
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