The New Arcana HYPE Thread - Asians split pot at NEC, Sabin allows it by no showing

[orka]

good job tiggy... hopefully, the interest for the game will continue to grow in the midwest region (and in the u.s. in general)

[purifyweirdsoul]

GGs, C3 people. I was Fiona, with the Kira and Konoha. We got 3rd through 5th place :O ...in kira, konoha, fiona order that is

The Konoha sent me to losers and the Kira put me out lol, that's small tournaments for ya though I guess. It was 10 people, I heard.

[GunflameBuri]

I coulda/woulda/shoulda fucked you up free purify, but, I wasnt in the mood. My personal life was bothering me.

[purifyweirdsoul]

oh, so that's what's up. you barely hit me man. We could have waited, the guy running the brackets was watching CvS2 finals for a few hours.

[xS A M U R A Ix]

I coulda/woulda/shoulda fucked you up free purify, but, I wasnt in the mood. My personal life was bothering me.

Wow dude have some respect. Brent's a good player, just because he plays a bottom tier character doesn't mean it would have been free.

[GunflameBuri]

Oh no, if thats the case I woulda said he sucked. Which I didnt. when I tried to hit him I couldnt, he knew what he was doing. I was just having hardcore personal issues, me and my lady friend(who i brought with me) were having personal problems right then and the last thing i wanted to do was try and play anything competitively.

Girls + video games = fail.

Me and a friend might be heading down to NC for a MtG tourney, hopefully we can squeeze some time in to play while i'm down there(weekend of Feb 23) :D. Than Brent can destroy me again, cept this time it'll be alot harder :#

[xS A M U R A Ix]

haha ok, sorry for being anal then. We'll have to get some casuals when you're down here. Where's the tourney at?

I know how having girls around can be. Especially if they're not into games x_x complain complain complain etc etc

[HeartNana]

I know how having girls around can be. lololololololol

(is remembering your sc.com gf)

lolololololo

[Tiggy]

yea i miss the C3 major...im really pissed about that... but i will be at CTF and of course the philly tourney... so i can finally test this plant kamui stuff

and AH is hype given to the right hands.... you have those hands tiggy...

good job tiggy... hopefully, the interest for the game will continue to grow in the midwest region (and in the u.s. in general)

Thanks guys!!:woot: One guy was like "Oh shit!" when I started doing FS (even though I dropped it after 3 reps:shake:). I so wish I could've played more, but things got stupid complicated with TV setups after 6pm.

Oh yeah orka, I just started watching Eureka Seven, and I'm loving the series! I've only watched up to episode 5 though....I gotta start buckling down for school.

[xS A M U R A Ix]

lololololololol

(is remembering your sc.com gf)

lolololololo

oh god nooooooooooooooo

*is also laughing on the inside*

Thank god I'm dating a cute asian girl now. I had to do something to redeem myself, hahaha.

[Nastrodamus]

i really wanted to be there... but bailed rides prevented that... man i wanted see how plan kamui did... damn.. and prevent justin and noel from winning :)

[xS A M U R A Ix]

Yeah I'm wondering how I woulda placed too since the guys I play with regularly got 3rd and 5th. Would have been interesting. I heard Justin was playing Gier Mei Fang though....weird combo. >_<

[orka]

i don't think gier mei-fang is weird at all... if anything, i think it might be the best out of all combinations for her. you definitely see it a lot, perhaps even more than fire.

[Nastrodamus]

gier mei-fang is fucking mean man... you already have mei -fangs damage in there... now let's add more pressure game... and unblockable setups and hell...random shark could lead to like 50% health gone....

you weren't there samurai... ah man...it's cool though... you goin to FR right?

[HeartNana]

I play Gier Fang. She might just be my best possible character, since Lilica isn't going to well...

Gier fang is awesome. Thats where the real damage comes, not from fire, but gier.

[DS]

I'm eating souls at CF next week. I'm also going to feast on more souls at FRXI.

[purifyweirdsoul]

Me and a friend might be heading down to NC for a MtG tourney, hopefully we can squeeze some time in to play while i'm down there(weekend of Feb 23) :D. Than Brent can destroy me again, cept this time it'll be alot harder :#

2/23 is my brother's birthday lol, I still might be around though. GS Eli. Hope you work that shit out.

lololololololol

(is remembering your sc.com gf)

lolololololo

You know Jon? Oh man. Internet's getting smaller.

Yeah I'm wondering how I woulda placed too since the guys I play with regularly got 3rd and 5th.

yes COME next time and we'll place tops in a row.

[orka]

I'm eating souls at CF next week. I'm also going to feast on more souls at FRXI.

Gekko State cannot be stopped

[Nastrodamus]

im actually coming to CTF this saturday.. so im looking foward to it..

hey orka... you goin to FR right ?... if you are getting a room... mind if split the costs with ya...im trying find a place to stay...

[Tiggy]

I'm seriously thinking about going to FR....big surprise there:sweat: I don't have school the following Monday, and I can schedule off from work for it. Now I just gotta figure out plane ticket costs (cause I am not doing an 8 hour drive), and hotel costs. I may have he plane ticket taken care of already.

I'm gonna watch some match vids and memorize some advanced IAD combos with Mei-Fang. I've always wanted to learn her, but I can't ever remember how to continue them combos. She's hella fun to play though.

[tsukihimeblood]

in case anyone hasn't gotten it yet, play-asia is selling the game for $29.90 as their weekly deal.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40-49-en-70-245h.html

if you already have it buy it for a friend!

[BlackShinobi]

in case anyone hasn't gotten it yet, play-asia is selling the game for $29.90 as their weekly deal.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40-49-en-70-245h.html

if you already have it buy it for a friend!

Thanks for the reminder. I saw the other thread and still forgot I need to get another copy of arcana.

[Oni_Ryu]

Thanks for the reminder. I saw the other thread and still forgot I need to get another copy of arcana.

You might want to wait, Atlus just announced its localization.

http://www.atlus.com/arcanaheart/

[orka]

You might want to wait, Atlus just announced its localization.

http://www.atlus.com/arcanaheart/

wow... the impossible happened

[tsukihimeblood]

You might want to wait, Atlus just announced its localization.

http://www.atlus.com/arcanaheart/

QUE????
i don't believe it.

[pbj_mixxa]

R U FUCKING SERIOUS?!! AHF HERE?!!

wow... this just doesn't seem real. wonder why they decided to bring it over? I mean, the game's big... but...

damn, I'm just speechless!

[EDIT] MY GOODNESS, WILL PEOPLE PLEASE STOP CALLING IT ARCANA "HEARTS"?!! IT'S ARCANA "HEART", DAMN IT!!!

[Sabin]

Niggas got no reason not to hop on this game anymore.

I thought the game was dying but shit just got a pheonix fucking down ftw!!!!

[orka]

does that mean us japanese console players can call ourselves "2nd generation OG"? :wink:

[Sabin]

orka: lol yeah

OG arcana goes something like this

HeartNana
Saotome Kaneda
myself
fubarduck
tian with the hype assist
Hal
Chibi (unfortunately)
Noel
DS
Andre
Ken
Marn
Kamui (not the character)
woof
Stone

sry if i forgot anyone :P

NINJA EDIT: FORGOT MAKOTO SCRUB - SRY TO DISS U LIKE THAT
I FORGOT AKITO AND SHINTO TOO :lol:

[Raph_Stryker]

pfft, houston is more OG then that hehe

too bad we really didnt roll with the game longer then 2 months.

[Sabin]

With the announcement of the usa ps2 release, I posted on the evo forum asking for ah at evo (since usa ps2 ver is coming out april 8th...) its a long shot, but theres really no harm in posting anyway.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=4759316#post4759316

i figure WHY the fuck not, since nec had 40+ ppl for teams/singles, frxi is coming, and the usa version is rather imminent

may as well wroth a shot even if we get dissed anyway (which we probably will)
but whatever

[tsukihimeblood]

here's hoping maybe an omaha scene will start now.

...doubt it

[KMD]

You might want to wait, Atlus just announced its localization.

http://www.atlus.com/arcanaheart/

There is a God, and he has a fucked up sense of humor...
Get hype people, the potential loli fighter marketshare just went up.

[DS]

Oh gees for life. Play more AH people!

[White Rob]

It's good to see that people are getting excited about the console release of AH. Tell your friends hahaha!

I'm currently on the localization/testing team for Arcana Heart at Atlus, so if you guys know about any system bugs in the Japanese retail that you want fixed, feel free to PM me or post here. I check this thread periodically ever since I started playing AH before Atlus even decided to localize it.

Things that I know are already addressed:

Freeze with Water Arcana 3[C] or 6[C] colliding with a physical object (like Metal Arcana 214D).

Freeze involving Metal Arcana's Arcana Blaze connecting with a character at the top of the screen.

Odd lock-up when you burst your Arcana while Mildred does her super.

"Bugs" that are being intentionally left in:

The ability to buffer extra actions for Gier while it is already out on the screen.

I will try to answer whatever questions that people may have, but let's not get ridiculous about it (as in, I won't transcribe every character's story mode dialogue in this thread). Let's spread the Arcana <3 people! :lovin:

[TempestFox]

Chibi (unfortunately)



rofl.

[Hyperhal]

Shinto/MS for the OG assist

EDIT: Wow, its great to hear it that you're on the localization team! Senior member Sabin is currently trying to get together a bunch of videos of Arcana glitching, as well as gathering info from other members on when Arcana randomly freezes.

One thing that the community didn't like about the AH port is the black screen you get coming out of an Arcana burst. Instead of a smooth transition over to the original BG, you get a nice black screen for 2-3 seconds before a sudden change over to the original BG.

[woof]

OMFG this is fucking crazy!

no words :sad:

[Sabin]

It's good to see that people are getting excited about the console release of AH. Tell your friends hahaha!

I'm currently on the localization/testing team for Arcana Heart at Atlus, so if you guys know about any system bugs in the Japanese retail that you want fixed, feel free to PM me or post here. I check this thread periodically ever since I started playing AH before Atlus even decided to localize it.

Things that I know are already addressed:

Freeze with Water Arcana 3[C] or 6[C] colliding with a physical object (like Metal Arcana 214D).

Freeze involving Metal Arcana's Arcana Blaze connecting with a character at the top of the screen.

Odd lock-up when you burst your Arcana while Mildred does her super.

"Bugs" that are being intentionally left in:

The ability to buffer extra actions for Gier while it is already out on the screen.

I will try to answer whatever questions that people may have, but let's not get ridiculous about it (as in, I won't transcribe every character's story mode dialogue in this thread). Let's spread the Arcana <3 people! :lovin:

Holy shit dude, I didn't even know you had a SRK account and were reading the thread. Props to you man, and I didn't know you were aware of the glitches in the original AH...I was just about to make a post on Atlus's forum seeing if these problems could be addressed.

Here's some other things I'd like to see cleaned up -

- Is it possible you could fix the loading time for the USA port? The loading time in JPN arcana is absurd.
- While we're on this topic, will you be patching up the "Quick Rematch" option? This is extremely annoying because of instead of loading the data from memory, the disc has to stream all the game data in again, and it's extremely slow.
- Possible to add a BUTTON CONFIG option while were in VS/arcade mode? This would be extremely important for competetive players, since the game takes soooooo long to load, and we have to go all the way back to the options menu to change the buttons...I'm sure you can understand how frustrating this is, for sure. Adding this would be a BIG plus for all of us tournament players..
- Any chances to get some additional options/fixes in training mode? The AH training mode is barebones and kinda fubared up (no quick reset button to reset options, have to go back to the training mode menu in order to do a quick reset,) on top of that, lifebar does not fill up back fast enough (which is very annoying because we constantly find ourselves having to go to the menu to get the correct dmg on a combo).

While we're on the subject of training mode (reposted from orka at guardcrush.net forums)

I thought I would start a glitch thread, since there isn't one yet.

The one I have found so far doesn't affect gameplay in particular, but it's still pretty annoying:

If you use the demon (poison) arcana super teleport in middle of your combo, the damage counter will reset.

to clarify: the life meter still drains... just that the numbers in the box displaying your total damage resets after the teleport. the first hit after the teleport will register as if it is the first hit of the combo.

so yea, the damage definitely keeps going but the game won't display it correctly. D:


This was also found by celsius at guardcrush forums -

If you map C to two buttons, you can press and hold one button and still be able to use the other to do C attacks. And if you use time arcana, you can charge 6[c] as much as you want and you can literally fill the screen. Goes without saying, too much 6[c] will screw the game.


HeartNana's followup -


I was messing around with this today. OMG, it was so much fun. I was laughing so hard at some of the stuff i was able to make.

What happens is that you have 2 C buttons, lets call them:
Ca, Cb.

Ca is the C you first used to charge up your attack. So if you do 6[Ca], then itll be normal. If you charge an attack with Cb while still holding Ca, then ALL the things you chage with Cb will not be released until you let go of the Ca button. So you can charge 1 thing with Ca, hold it, and then charge 4 things with Cb, and when you let go of Ca, all 5 things will disperse at once. Crazy. I think me and Capps got to 13-14 before the game froze from Lilica 6[C].


that's all for now. If anyone has any more issues, SPEAK UP!! NOW IS THE TIME TO POST!!

and also...some of the sound samples on ps2 sound very fubar compared to the arcade version (like when you hit someone with rock arcana..listen to the ps2 sample then listen to the arcade ver.) i think i can live with this, though.

White Rob - dude, thanks for posting on SRK man, you're a real help.
REP THIS MAN!!

[Faight]

orka: lol yeah

OG arcana goes something like this

HeartNana
Saotome Kaneda
myself
fubarduck
tian with the hype assist
Hal
Chibi (unfortunately)
Noel
DS
Andre
Ken
Marn
Kamui (not the character)
woof
Stone

sry if i forgot anyone :P

I'm OG too, I played in Osaka with heartnana for like a week in early 2007.

OG!

[Sabin]

faight: Haha, thats true. I know I forgot a bunch of other ppl too like Tricktoshi, yourself, etc etc.

By the way, if anyone does not know the steel bug we are talking about (this isnt directed at White Rob, it's moreso directed at everyone else, for those that dont know)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d0eIwPgQHFo

There is also a bug which glitches the game on Mildred after Arcana activation? I'm not sure how to do this. Are u aware of this bug also White Rob?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d0eIwPgQHFo

Does anyone know how this glitch is replicated? Or does this dude have a SRK account?

[tataki]

-add soft reset for this game
-make so we will not have to watch the whole battle intro that presents the characters and arcanas that we chose

[HeartNana]

I'm OG too, I played in Osaka with heartnana for like a week in early 2007.

OG!

You didn't play against me at all, nor did i ever see you play. You showed up while i was playing and then we left the arcade immediately.

Then you showed up to a kohatsu tourney and i dont think i saw you play there either.

[Mizuki]

I'm OG Arcana... waiting for the game by myself in the corner of my room watching vids...

*edit*
For bugs, the weird extended black screen after activation, and maybe a better training mode interface would be nice. I think Sabin covered them all that I know of.

[Return of Shiki]

4/08/08 as a release date seems really close.

Do they really have the time to fix all of the glitches in that timeframe?

[Dencore]

Any chance of a North American release?

course not

I should have kept my hopes up.

[Faight]

You didn't play against me at all, nor did i ever see you play. You showed up while i was playing and then we left the arcade immediately.

Then you showed up to a kohatsu tourney and i dont think i saw you play there either.

Exactly. This makes me the OGiest OG ever.

Also I did play the game, it's just japanese people weren't very nice to me and would do those things where they hit you a bunch of times in a row. I think they're called combos?

I'm not horrible at the game, I'm just not good. I'd like to play you guys sometime, what tournies do you have coming up?

[katraqueyous]

-make so we will not have to watch the whole battle intro that presents the characters and arcanas that we chose

HAHA, hell yeah, I agree 100 percent!

[Capps Indigo]

hey, the following arent bugs, and im not sure if you'll be able to change these, but would really help things:

-please remove the timers from vs and training mode (or at least have them not count down). there really isnt any point in having them.

-for training mode,
-allow person to change arcana's via the options menu
-allow person to change opponent's arcana in training mode (actually, make training mode character selection exactly like character selection for 1 player vs mode)
-make "select" button auto-reset character positions (exactly like gg training mode)
-make it so you dont have to "reset" in order for changes on option screen to take hold (it unpausing is sufficient).

general:
-allow skipping of prefight portaits (the part after the arcana selection and before the match starts) via start button or something.

thats all i can think of so far.. ^_^


edit: btw, this was really unexpected. thanks to the people responsible. ^_^

[Frank the Tank]

You mentioned something kinda similar glitch-wise, but the freeze when a Time player blocks a 3[C] or 6[C] from a Water player has got to go. Didn't know if that was what u meant before.

[Nastrodamus]

thanks Atlus!!

like i said i know there are bugs but i can't catch em... ( the arcana activations on the jap one are really wonky... like damn..

there were alot of issues with water...as foremention earlier in the thread... freezing the game..i know it was water... i mess some fire... and wasn't doing any game altering glitches...

[ReXXXSoprano]

You might want to wait, Atlus just announced its localization.

http://www.atlus.com/arcanaheart/

Oh Shit. It's a Showtime. This day can get no bettter.
Hopefully I'll be able to actually pre-order this at RapeStop. Unlike some other games that came out. And seeing Atlus handle localization is kinda out there. I just thought they just made sure I played Shin Megami Tensei. But they did create Power Instinct. So either way. White Rob, much appreciation making yourself known my dude. Make this version the best one for all the Arcana fans.
LOL-AYE BAY BAY!!!

[someAzNdude]

Wow this is AWESOME news, AHF US PS2 release is something that we didn't think was going to happen at all. Thank you so much, people at Atlus, you guys kick ass :D

[purifyweirdsoul]

US ARCANA?!??!? BEST NEWS OF THE YEAR! oh man. too strong. ballin. etc.

[m121akuma]

I played Arcana once while I was in Japan.
It's a US PS2 2D fighter though, so I'll get it.

[Master Chibi]

I know you're expecting me to hate and then some Art, but I'll just bow out and say one thing.

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. At all. I don't think your community deserves this either. I think you and maybe FIVE other people do, but not the community.

Kay. I'm out.

[phae]

Kay. I'm out.

See you tomorrow, Chibi. :rofl:

[DS]

-add soft reset for this game


Yo, Demon Hyo will love this feature. I'm gonna be a top player just like HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[Sabin]

I know you're expecting me to hate and then some Art, but I'll just bow out and say one thing.

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. At all. I don't think your community deserves this either. I think you and maybe FIVE other people do, but not the community.

Kay. I'm out.


word what happened to saying ONE thing, you edited your post and added this in there

I don't think your community deserves this either. I think you and maybe FIVE other people do, but not the community.


lol, youre SOOOOOOOOOOOO mad. just admit it. :rofl:

[Master Chibi]

Fuck yes I'm mad. This shit DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. At all, in any way comprehend-able by the human mind. You're probably grinning ear to ear like an idiot, so good for you. I can't wait for them to hand you tickets to SBO on a silver platter without even bothering to go to qualifiers.

And you're probably rallying people in #Arcana to help you when you should know better because that room is a joke to begin with. Your community is half ass, that's why I said they don't deserve it.

[Mizuki]

Fuck yes I'm mad. This shit DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. At all, in any way comprehend-able by the human mind. You're probably grinning ear to ear like an idiot, so good for you. I can't wait for them to hand you tickets to SBO on a silver platter without even bothering to go to qualifiers.

And you're probably rallying people in #Arcana to help you when you should know better because that room is a joke to begin with. Your community is half ass, that's why I said they don't deserve it.

You're just mad because Melty Blood ain't getting a domestic release and getting the spot light.

[Master Chibi]

You're just mad because Melty Blood ain't getting a domestic release and getting the spot light.

Butt the fuck out Miz, you never played this shit to begin with. Art knows full well what I'm talking about.

[Mizuki]

Butt the fuck out Miz, you never played this shit to begin with. Art knows full well what I'm talking about.

I played this game as much as a one man community can play it, but atleast I'll admit I'm not a "true" player of this game, unlike you with some other shit.

[Master Chibi]

I'm not going to shit on the thread any further out of respect for Art.

Sorry.

[Mizuki]

I'm not going to shit on the thread any further out of respect for Art.

Sorry.

Then why'd you come in here in the first place even though you've said countless times you wouldn't in #Arcana.

[Sabin]

new 2d game coming out for ps2
i dont see what the problem is here
as if its a bad thing

Anyway, some of the suggestions for bugfixes so far have been great.
few other fixes (hoping for it though, not expecting to happen)

any chance that the music from the arcana heartmatic collection can be on the disc as extra bgms?
like selectable between original and arranged music?
that would be sweet.

also, any last minute changes you can do to fix minor speed problems would be good
the game doesnt feel as fluid as the arcade version and anyone whos played on the real thing can attest to that.

for example, lilica's 236a+b super causes crazy slowdown during all the kicks etc compared to the arcade...it might be too late but o well thought id ask anyway

any changes im sure we all appreciate

orka: by any chance is there a ps2 buglist on the jbbs listing anythin we might have missed here? i guess time is kinda of the essence

[m121akuma]

...What's the backstory behind Chibi's hate for this game? I mean, GODDAMN that's hateful. Hatehatehatehate

[Clear Sky]

orka: lol yeah

OG arcana goes something like this

HeartNana
Saotome Kaneda
myself
fubarduck
tian with the hype assist
Hal
Chibi (unfortunately)
Noel
DS
Andre
Ken
Marn
Kamui (not the character)
woof
Stone

sry if i forgot anyone :P

NINJA EDIT: FORGOT MAKOTO SCRUB - SRY TO DISS U LIKE THAT
I FORGOT AKITO AND SHINTO TOO :lol:

Don't forget Superking and I. BC got the game around February or March of 2007. Shame on you Art! You forgot especially of Superking and he runs and owns GCNET. :rofl:

Not that it matters or anything, since neither of us have played AH in ages.

I was about to ask what exactly is this Arcana Hate, but I think MC just answered my question for me. :rofl:

[Sabin]

LOL I didn't forget you guys. Actually I thought that with your websites being linked at the front page at all, that it kinds goes without saying LOL!!

But yeah I was considering making a 2nd shoutout post so that niggas would get butthurt or something. haha. I def didnt forget abotu u guys, Toronto guys that had regular AH, Sp00ky (who doesnt even play this game hardbody but did a shitload to help out AH scene) XAQShinor, and lots of others....haha. I even crosslinked you guys and referenced you guys in the official atlus forum here -

http://www.atlus.com/new_forum/viewforum.php?f=30

oh yea btw, feel free to post in that forum if anyone feels like it etc.

EDIT: Singapore AH scene gets props too lolz. damn why am i forgetting so many ppl. haha

[Shinto]

Damn a nigga gets no love....shame.

[orka]

orka: by any chance is there a ps2 buglist on the jbbs listing anythin we might have missed here? i guess time is kinda of the essence

you can partition arcana moves when you have the steel arcana (like, summon multiple swords at once)

i forgot how it exactly works, though... never tried it myself

[Farpenoodle]

EDIT: Singapore AH scene gets props too lolz. damn why am i forgetting so many ppl. haha

Lol. Yay!

Sadly. None of us seem to be able to find time to play much anymore. We're all just hoping someone here brings AH2 in since the FG scene here is very arcade-centric.

[White Rob]

Ok, it's clarification time. :wonder:

Atlus IS on a tight schedule to release this game, but the major reason is because we want to get the game out to U.S. people while the PS2 is still alive, and we'll be selling the game at $29.99. But this also means that we can't ask the developers (Examu) to make dramatic changes to the game that they would've implemented for their own version of the game if they could've.

We asked the developers if they could:
- Make a quick rematch function without the intros or load times
- Add a quick reset function to Training Mode
- Add a button input display to Training Mode
- Add a record function to Training Mode
- Add a button config to the Pause Menu
- Include a soft reset function
- Pretty much every other feature you guys at SRK want added

But due to many compounding circumstances (remember that Examu IS working on AH2 right now), none of these features could be added. Please take into consideration that we are only localizing this game, and we can't touch the code ourselves, so what Examu decides is final say regarding these matters. In conclusion, we can't really ADD anything to the game. But if there's something serious that will crash the game and make Sony reject it, we'd like to know about it, as that gets the developers attention.

I WILL speak to the developers about the black screen that appears when you burst, as this classifies as a borderline bug.

I just went and did the following combo with Poison Kira to test the damage scaling for the Super Teleport:

5B > 3[C] > 412364D, j.2C, 2B > 623A

The combo counter goes for 5 hits and the damage scaling remains constant in the display (100%, 89%, 69%, 49%, 45%), so they must've addressed this already, or I'm not understanding how the bug works.

Oh yea, I forgot to mention that you can't bind multiple buttons to C attack now, so the Time Arcana bug involving that is fixed as well. I actually found another bug (much more minor) while verifying that one, so thanks for reminding me about that guys! :D

Lastly, Frank the Tank, what do you mean about Water Arcana 3_6[C] hitting a character using Time Arcana and causing a freeze? Do you mean when they use their back-dash?

[Monte]

White Rob are you also Incest Rob from smash bros TG4 dvd fame?

[orka]

despite some people complaining, i personally don't consider the black screen on activation as a bug

that doesn't really affect the game play anyway... it might bother some people when they reset training mode after arcana force state, and see black background for 1~2 seconds, but that's about it

[White Rob]

Hahaha Monte, yea that's me. I helped MattD run Tournament GO's back in the day. A lot of the Atlus USA testers play Smash during break too.

[Monte]

Hahaha Monte, yea that's me. I helped MattD run Tournament GO's back in the day. A lot of the Atlus USA testers play Smash during break too.

cool, yea I got to play you at a biweekly once. Name is Joey, had a crappy sheik, was friends with Recipherus probably don't remember me but it was my second biweekly I had never seen high level play before going to the biweeklies and you whooped me with those crazy young link tactics. Anyways I figured it was you since White Rob is kind of an odd name just making sure. good stuff, good luck and keep all that Atlus whackyness coming.

[Strider2k2]

AH U.S. release?? Wow. I'm speechless.

[Capps Indigo]

clarification

thanks for the explanation. i think we figured it was best to mention our requests rather than not. thanks again.

[Zee Tee Bee]

You're just mad because Melty Blood ain't getting a domestic release and getting the spot light.

Lol I know I am. Especially after being a (serious) follower for soooo long. :sad: (no homo)

....AH2 looks like it's going to be sexy btw.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

US release madness. I thought this would never get a stateside release cuz it was a loli game:rolleyes: I'd like to see Melty Blood as well, even though it's mad late. It seems ever since the ps3 got a little steam behind it, all kinds of fighters are finally coming out in the US.:bluu:

[Sabin]

White Rob: dude, its all good. You're just awesome. It's nice to know that you though ahead (about what we wanted) in advance without us having to ask. Even tho it didn't work out, the effort is much appreciated. <3 no homo. I guess that's what happens when you have people localizing/testing the usa port (that are fellow tournament players like yourself.)

even tho none of our requests made it in, id still get the release just for the bugfies alone, they really can get in the way of gameplay.

thx for posting dude

[tataki]

find some way to get mainstream sites like gamespot and ign hyped about the game (mission: impossible), and it will have much better sales.

[Nastrodamus]

wow what a bitch move chibi... can't be happy about 2d games unless it's melty... but whatever... here's hoping to a melty one as well... and saying the community was halfed ass is even more fucked up... people showing up at NEC was great hype for AH (and as well as MB) and shit it's going to happen at final round.. and besides.... the reason there is such a barrier between melty/ and AH is because of you dog... wtf!!... all that bs you be pullin in tourney threads... dissin on arcana.. when none of the arcana people had not said anything at all!! so what's the big beef.. JUST DON"T SAY SHIT IF YOU CAN"T BE HAPPY WITH IT...


anyways... US port.. now i don't to go through kanji... and man i can actually figure out the storyline for once..

and now more of audience... i can't wait for the bloosoming of the fruits of labor that everyone has done....

[Sp00ky]

Lastly, Frank the Tank, what do you mean about Water Arcana 3_6[C] hitting a character using Time Arcana and causing a freeze? Do you mean when they use their back-dash?

Yes the bug involves hitting Time backdash clones with water 3_6[C] . I'm pretty sure there are one or two other arcana specials that can cause it as well.

[orka]

Yes the bug involves hitting Time backdash clones with water 3_6[C] . I'm pretty sure there are one or two other arcana specials that can cause it as well.

it's actually water 3[c] and 6[c] against any non-character hit boxes. so it includes not just time back dash but water bubble, fire ball, steel shield, maori's sisters, lieselotte's doll, etc. etc.

[Bill307]

despite some people complaining, i personally don't consider the black screen on activation as a bug

that doesn't really affect the game play anyway... it might bother some people when they reset training mode after arcana force state, and see black background for 1~2 seconds, but that's about it

It's been a slight problem for me, once. While my opponent and I were fighting in mid-air, the screen turned black and so we couldn't tell how far away the ground was :P.

I think it should be one of the last bugs fixed, after all of the game-crashing bugs are (hopefully) fixed.

[orka]

It's been a slight problem for me, once. While my opponent and I were fighting in mid-air, the screen turned black and so we couldn't tell how far away the ground was :P.

I think it should be one of the last bugs fixed, after all of the game-crashing bugs are (hopefully) fixed.

but that's how it is in the arcade version as well. when you activate arcana force, the background will turn black and the camera will momentarily zoom into the character... no matter where she is on the screen.

[Random123456789]

I posted a glitch a while back (I was Saki fighting against the boss, and as she was shooting her beams (super) I Arcana Activated, and it froze the match...I couldn't get out of it). Plus fix the steel arcana bug.

[Mizuki]

Anyways, White Rob, I'll personally drive 5 hours to Irvine (if that much) to give you a personal thanks once it comes out, and we can have our own little "Arcana Party" (no homo).

[Bill307]

but that's how it is in the arcade version as well. when you activate arcana force, the background will turn black and the camera will momentarily zoom into the character... no matter where she is on the screen.

Errr, I think we're talking about two different things. o.O

I was referring to the end of someone's Arcana activation, when the background is supposed to fade back to normal, but ends up black for a couple of seconds instead.

[Tiggy]

OMFG a U.S. release?!? I am most definitely buying that game on April 8, 2008!!!!

White Rob, mucho thanks man!!!!!:lovin: And thanks to Sabin for getting so much info in so little time to White Rob!

[Sabin]

thanks..on that note i realized I did not post the correct link for the bug vs mildred that freezes the game

here it is in video form

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1zFuqGPBEJo

[True_Tech]

i'm saddened that they couldn't add all that stuff but maybe it'll give hope for ah2 not being wack on console. also full colors still being l1 :(

still gonna cop though hope our store gets more than one copy

[White Rob]

Well, Frank, I know for certain the game doesn't lock up when you hit a Steel Arcana shield (214D) with a charged 3C or 6C in Water Arcana, as mentioned in one of my previous posts. But I'll definitely try it with more physical non-character objects tomorrow (ie. the ones Orka mentioned), just to be thorough.

Mizuki: Haha that would be awesome. I'm always down to play Arcana Heart. Also, if you know anyone who lives in SoCal and plays AH competitively, I may be able to arrange some play testing of the game for a week or so. The QA Manager at Atlus knows the importance of getting experienced players to try a fighting game and make sure that everything is working the way it should.

[Gasaraki]

hey so, I"m thinking of trying this since it's coming out on US PS2, but I suck at fighting games so how "hard" is this? Worse than GG? Easier? For reference, I think all SF games are fucking hard.

Edit: How is bigass berserk sword girl? The wiki doesn't say much really.

[Kayin]

Fiona can win, but keep in mind she is technically low tier.

[Hyperhal]

Word? You need some experienced players to test the game? You could always fly down the EC players :rofl:

[orka]

Well, Frank, I know for certain the game doesn't lock up when you hit a Steel Arcana shield (214D) with a charged 3C or 6C in Water Arcana, as mentioned in one of my previous posts. But I'll definitely try it with more physical non-character objects tomorrow (ie. the ones Orka mentioned), just to be thorough.

sorry... i kind of just assumed about the steel shield one. :sweat:

but it does freeze with a lot of non-character hit-boxes. i've confirmed it on lieselotte's doll multiple times during matches.

[Len Momono]

Excellent....but i prefer Hokuto No Ken after this.

[Sano]

Coiming out in the US, really? Freaking cool. :tup:

[Faight]

Word? You need some experienced players to test the game? You could always fly down the EC players :rofl:

I agree with this, fly some of us down there.

[HeartNana]

I disagree with the "can't bind one attack to more than one button" thing.

Me and Orka and a buncha people switch sticks all the time, and the pad players/arcana stick users need O as their C button, while the other stick users use R1 for that purpose. That way, when we switch sticks or pads, we don't have to key config everytime cause loading takes forever.

[Nastrodamus]

btw you can reserve AH now... so just in case anyone was wondering...

a friend of mine .... has the button figured out that both pad users and stick users wouldn't have to switch... it is hassle esp. in the jap version ( cuse i can't read kanji) and also it takes forever to get to the match and if your buttons is fucked up.. that means that's like five more mins fixing the buttons and getting to the match...

[nohoho]

Sup Arcana thread!

Arcadia AHF Ranks Feb '08
S: Lieselotte
A: Kamui, Lilica, Heart, Mei-Fang
B: Saki, Konoha, Maori
C: Kira, Yoriko
D: Fiona

[Master Chibi]

D: Fiona

Before he even says anything:

Shut the fuck up Dawain.

[Sabin]

Hey Fred, thanks for posting the tier list. Though it seems like not much has changed from the last one (with Lieselotte still being high on the tier list, and Fiona on bottom as usual).

I personally think that Lilica is ranked higher than Kamui though, and that character (Lilica) still beats Kamui - even though Kamui has the superior range, in close battles, and in the air when they are right next to each other, Lilica wins, and gets a bettery payoff when she actually hits someone. but whatever. Overall I agree with the tier list for the most part.

Anyone think differently about the tier list?

[Master Chibi]

I still don't understand why Kira is C tier. The thought of having a fully mobile GRAPPLER who can do as much DUMB damage as she can with or without 360 throws scares the FUCK out of me, and yet she's in the same tier as Yoriko?

loo ok

[DS]

Wow, I'm pretty surprised to see Kira that low considering her hitbox and inability to get hit by any sort of combo.

[Sabin]

Wel as we all know, its not like the tiers matter that much anyway. Who the fuck cares if Kira is C? she still rapes.

[Master Chibi]

Nah that still doesn't make any sense. What does she lose to / get countered by that has her that low in the list? I mean I think she rapes everyone outside of fucking Lise. I already know Yoriko and Fiona are garbage, and that the rest of the list is up for debate or being interchangeable, but C tier Kira doesn't click.

[HeartNana]

Art - I think Kamui does better in general against more characters than Lilica, while Lilica just happens to be decent against Kamui.

I personally think Lilica/Konoha is bad for Lilica, but i've also heard Lilica's range beats Konoha, so it could be a similar thing with Kamui. =P

And i think Kira loses to crazy rushdown pretty hardcore now, which is prolly why she's so low. Your defense has to be REALLLLLY good (better than with most characters) to be able to stop the rushdown. The way she plays is so basic though that she seems super good, but you just have to dumb down your game against her.

[orka]

well... players in japan have played tons more games against tons more people, and they probably know a lot of things we don't know about.

also, it could just be that kira is a "scrub killer" kind of character. she will seem like a total beast at low and intermediate levels, but not so much when you get to high level play. kind of like sol, back in the ggxx#r days. a lot of people new to the game or unfamiliar to competitive play assumed sol was god tier (although he was rated at c-) just because he had certain properties that seemed overwhelmingly powerful at lower levels of play.

[Sabin]

well the thing is, kira was ranked at C even when i was in japan, that hasnt changed. in fact the tier list hasnt changed much at all for the most part since i left.

despite her being ranked c one of the top players in the tokyo area played kira (with lightning/gier) and pretty much raped almost everyone. did pretty well in sbo too...)

besides yoriko and fiona where theyre ranked in the tiers doesnt really mean much to me imo. though i do agree that japanese do know things that we dont know about this game for sure.

Rob: Yeah, you might be right on that one. But you know, since they are right next to each other in the tiers, I don't think it matters that much. At the end of the day, she's still hella good, and so is Kamui. Just Lilica is harder to play and requires more dedication than Kamui, that's all. :)

[Gasaraki]

not that I have any idea of what this game is like, but most grapplers end up at midtier anyway don't they. I think GGAC Pot is like the only exception to that "rule" isn't it? Well barring KOF games.

[pbj_mixxa]

Interesting... I always thought Konoha was above Heart... any idea why it's the other way around?

[orka]

not that I have any idea of what this game is like, but most grapplers end up at midtier anyway don't they. I think GGAC Pot is like the only exception to that "rule" isn't it? Well barring KOF games.

accent core potemkin is just disgusting in so many ways... he's already A tier, and turns into S++ tier when FAB plays him.

Interesting... I always thought Konoha was above Heart... any idea why it's the other way around?

heart is a really well-rounded character, if people haven't noticed already. she has a really solid set of normals... decent damage output... and both her dp (special and super) are really, really good.

[White Rob]

HeartNana: The devs actually tweaked the button binds so you can bind multiple C attacks to buttons now (without being able to use the Time Arcana bug). Please remember that this game is still under testing, so anything can change between now and mastering up (hopefully nothing dramatic).

And no, Atlus isn't going to fly anyone here. :D

[Master Chibi]

Tell them to work on MB:AC somehow so we can all hold hands and dance around a campfire in the end.

;_;

[someAzNdude]

Oh wow a new tier list?
I kinda see why Kira dropped in the tiers. It's pretty hard for Kira to fend off any type of rush down without meter and Kira with no meter isn't that scary :/ SPD attempts can get countered by jabs and all her normals are hella slow and get beat out by most attacks. No real good anti-air and splash isn't as godlike as we thought it was (gets beat out by j.As), if Kira can't score a knockdown she won't be able to do much against an experienced player. Not to mention Kira gets owned free by Steel Arcana's shield >_>
So I can agree with Orka saying that Kira is a scrub/noob killer, but nevertheless Kira can still rape when given the chance to :)
Wow, I'm pretty surprised to see Kira that low considering her hitbox and inability to get hit by any sort of combo.
This shouldn't determine if a character is top tier or not, all you need to do is to tweak your combos a bit to hit Kira (aka keep shit simple). And Kira's hitbox is more of a handicap if anything, she gets crossed up a lot easier than most characters because of her size and she gets hit more by retarded backward combos... -_-;;

[Nastrodamus]

ha fiona still d huh? that's okay.. and lol at dawain comment... like you shouldn't complain about your charcter.. cuse there is lower than yoriko... aka dat fiona tier...

[Faight]

I agree with Kira being a scrub killer. She's silly dumb when she knocks you down, but if you can get the rush on her and don't give her a chance then there isn't shit you can do. I think her match against Lies is just horrible, from the japanese matches I've watched, but that's not to say that there aren't Kiras that can't whip out SPINNAZ and kill you with two meters.

I'm glad my two girls are decently up there, Konoha and Mei-Fang. I gotta get my PS2 out and practice some.

Anyone going to C3 this month? I'd like to play some people in AH.

Also, any recommendations for Konoha? I use Gier and Fire, I find fire to be more damage but gier has sick setups and covers a lot of gaps that Konoha has (other than damage). I used lightning for a bit with her, she can use the super for setups pretty effectively, but I feel like gier is better overall.

[DS]

not that I have any idea of what this game is like, but most grapplers end up at midtier anyway don't they. I think GGAC Pot is like the only exception to that "rule" isn't it? Well barring KOF games.

A3 Zangief. V-Gief was awesome and all, but A-Gief was still playable and was top tier for a good while until V-ism stuff came about. And of course, SSF2 Gief.


This shouldn't determine if a character is top tier or not

Guy in A3.

Co-sign with the rest.

ha fiona still d huh? that's okay.. and lol at dawain comment... like you shouldn't complain about your charcter.. cuse there is lower than yoriko... aka dat fiona tier...

Why didn't you stick with Fiona then?

[Sabin]

I still say you guys don't give kira enough credit, considering except for myself and rob - None of us have fought that rape rape rape kira yet, but whatever. She's not in the scrub killer category. That's what fiona is there for..

Like I said when I see too players getting owned by kira repeatedly with large winstreaks, that's when I stop paying attention to tiers in this game and instead focus on individual matchups.

If your offense isn't 100 percent perfect airtight rushdown or you don't have perfect runaway then yeah I can see her losing. Other than that? Her tier eating is highly misleading

[Nastrodamus]

A3 Zangief. V-Gief was awesome and all, but A-Gief was still playable and was top tier for a good while until V-ism stuff came about. And of course, SSF2 Gief.



Guy in A3.

Co-sign with the rest.



Why didn't you stick with Fiona then?


cuse im trying out the worst arcana... and i try alot of things with fiona plant... like plant and fiona really don't coexist at all.. we talking setups and combos... doing plant combos with fiona are stupid cuse the normal bnb's she does more damage...whereas with kamui... she has lot more combo options from alot of places (although i haven't thought about 6 [c] combos with fiona plant)..better setups with seeds (possibly)... it does nice damage for being the worst arcana in the game... only real problem i have with kamui is AA... but im thinking that won't be a big deal as i get alittle bit more comfortable with kamui... and i still get more wins with fiona btw... so my fiona hasn't waned... but i just want to see if i can win with the worst arcana (not if the japs can do it... if i can do it) and plus kamui seems boring in gier... plant adds more flavor for kamui i think anyways...intresting combos..


faight- i may be there ... depends on the ride... for c3

[someAzNdude]

Guy in A3.

Co-sign with the rest.

Fuck A3 Guy, real talk :arazz:

[orka]

*not related to tier-talk*

the weird thing about kira is... although her hitbox screws up ground combos, she actually has the tallest hitbox in air while she is in hit stun. she's definitely the easiest character for maori to juggle. one gripe i have is that you can't do poison cloud > j.b chain every time in the corner... but the same goes for lilica and lieselotte (who is one character you can't do any kind of special combos on anyway because of no bounce on clean hit) so i don't really mind too much.

i don't know if ken would agree, but this is how i see in terms of difficulty of maori comboing on characters...

really hard: lieselotte
hard: lilica
normal: everybody else
easy: kira, kamui

i know ken's told me he thinks konoha is hard to juggle too, but aside from the short hitbox nothing bothers me when i combo her anymore. i put a couple of konoha players into arcana activation death combos over the weekend, which felt good. :)

i also dropped couple of death combos because rob had a distracting poster above his tv. D:

[Makoto Scrub]

really hard: lieselotte
hard: lilica
normal: everybody else
easy: kira, kamui

If you're talking about BBC times 3 loop then I'll agree with this also.

Orka/Ken, you have combos for looping Kira, Lilica and Konoha?

[orka]

If you're talking about BBC times 3 loop then I'll agree with this also.

Orka/Ken, you have combos for looping Kira, Lilica and Konoha?

against kira/lilica/konoha midscreen, you need to buffer 22a immediately after you do 623a > 6hc > 5c in order to get a bounce. you also can't go into bbc loops off 623b/c using the 3a relaunch method that works on other characters.

lieselotte is the same as above, except that you can't get her to bounce at all, even off a clean hit. instead, you need to hope tsuzune will hit lieselotte at least 4 times during the 22a, then either:
dash > 5b before lieselotte hits the ground (this allows for bbc x 3)
dash > 5a > 5b before lieselotte hits the ground (this allows for a 5a > 5b > jc > j.a > j.b > jc > j.a > j.c > land > 5a > 5b combo)
dash jump > j.a while lieselotte is still not too low to the ground (this allows for a j.a > j.b > jc > j.a > j.c > land > 5a > 5b combo)first option is obviously the best, as you get a full loop... but the timing is really tight. you pretty much need to buffer the dash as soon as maori recovers, then buffer the 5b into the dash. the timing is lightly looser in the corner.

the second option is slightly easier, but you will also get less damage. you can actually manage to get bbc x 2 off dash > 5a; but if you want to go for the loop, you might as well practice the first option.

the third option is the hardest, in my opinion, and you also get the worst damage output.

[Makoto Scrub]

against kira/lilica/konoha midscreen, you need to buffer 22a immediately after you do 623a > 6hc > 5c in order to get a bounce. you also can't go into bbc loops off 623b/c using the 3a relaunch method that works on other characters.
Good stuff Orka. I didnt know about the fast buffer before. Against lieselotte, I just use the first option and then do 5C after the last rep to conserve HG.

[HeartNana]

White Rob - Awesome, thanks. That makes me feel a lot better about the American port. :D

[venom2978]

could sum1 explain to me why yoriko and fiona are ranked last. i think both characters are pretty good, especially yoriko. then again, i dont have much experience playing human opponents, so i'm sure theres tons of stuff i dont know. i always thought all the characters were pretty even...except for lieselette, i always knew that in the right hands she would be deadly, so i agree with her being ranked at the top

[Faight]

could sum1 explain to me why yoriko and fiona are ranked last. i think both characters are pretty good, especially yoriko. then again, i dont have much experience playing human opponents, so i'm sure theres tons of stuff i dont know. i always thought all the characters were pretty even...except for lieselette, i always knew that in the right hands she would be deadly, so i agree with her being ranked at the top

The tiering (like for any fighting game) is based on ease of comboability, damage, and matchups. Yoriko and Fiona have a lot of problems in those areas, especially considering how silly good some of the characters in this game are. I'm not saying that either of the two are bad, but they just have issues keeping them down.

And for some reason Kira is ranked the same as Yoriko. Kira is insanely good and has a lot of easy damage. Why complain about two characters who have subpar damage output either due to low damage or low comboability when you've got a heavy heavy damage character with easy long combos and setups out the ass?

Yeah, I like Yoriko, but she's just at a disadvantage in the game.

[orka]

could sum1 explain to me why yoriko and fiona are ranked last. i think both characters are pretty good, especially yoriko. then again, i dont have much experience playing human opponents, so i'm sure theres tons of stuff i dont know. i always thought all the characters were pretty even...except for lieselette, i always knew that in the right hands she would be deadly, so i agree with her being ranked at the top

To put it simply...
Low average damage output
Overall poor set of normals
Many punishable and unsafe moves
ImmobileThey can deal big damage (Yoriko during power-up or combos off 6a, while Fiona off Kartov Roof combos, etc.), but not consistently enough compared to the rest of the cast.

Similarly, not all their normals are bad. Yoriko's j.b is a semi-decent poke, and j.3/6/9c are decent zoning tools. Fiona's 5b is a okay poke with long range, and the reach on 3c is the biggest in the game, while 2a has +3 frames on block. But overall, they're a notch down what rest of the characters have.

Both characters have really unsafe moves... especially Fiona. It's pretty hilarious how she has so many moves that guarantees a full combo from Arcana Force.

Both characters are pretty immobile, and don't have a real rush down game.

Overall, both characters need to play very safe in most match-ups and need to hope for random hits and/or slowly chip away at opponent's life.

I think the reason Fiona is ranked worse than Yoriko might be because she has no good default (non-arcana) options on clash, while Yoriko has 236a+b or 63214a+b supers.

[Nastrodamus]

i dunno... with fiona... ja, 5a , jb, 5b are excellent clashes.. but yea as far as options... yeah she crap with that...her biggest strength is her aa... i mean..you have 3c which is prolly the longest aa in the game problay .... 5c...while can be block in the air can punish most incoming attacks.. air dashes.. both foward and backdashes.... j 2c can be used as aa as well... mad good range.. as well as jb...

as far as rush down..there isn't much.. pretty much you can mixup 2a and 6b.. since they do change you can mix that up....which 2a leads to combos... while 6b leads to63214 a+b.. but really that's all she has for rushdown.. pretty much you just have to use your pokes and keep your distance... becuase really she has very tough times getting out of rush down.. so your D has to be on point and look for holes to throw 5c or GC out that shit...

[Keits]

konoha basic bnb:

2a > 2b > 2c > 623b (6hc) > 5a > 5b > iad > j.b (jc) > j.b > delayed j.c > land > super jump > j.a > j.b > j.c > j.2c

also, i think it's about time we all make guardcrush forums more active and main hub for all general game-play talk

I cannot make this work, for the life of. I guess I just dont have that technical skill and should stick to my hotness Kira.

[orka]

^that's cus that notation is totally wrong, lol. i made that post after like a week of playing arcana. the good ol' days of being absolutely clueless. D;

the correct notation would be:

2a > 2b > 2c > 623b (6hc) > 5a > 5b > iad > j.b > delayed jc > j.c > land > jump > j.a > j.b > j.c > j.2c

[Keits]

I cant get the 6hc > 5a > 5b part. I can one in ten times in the corner. What am i doing wrong?

[orka]

I cant get the 6hc > 5a > 5b part. I can one in ten times in the corner. What am i doing wrong?

that part shouldn't be hard at all... unless you're using a arcana that wouldn't work for it (like rock or time). you're most likely pressing 5a too late.

also, if you're in the corner, you can do a hayatezuki loop:

2a > 2b > 2c > 623b > 5a > 623b > 6hc > 5b > iad > j.b > jc > j.c > land > jump > j.a > j.b > j.c > j.2c

*for this combo, you can replace the j.2c with izuna drop also

[Keits]

Oh shit, i didnt even THINK that an arcana might effect that. I was using rock. Ill switch to fire and see if i can land it. im going to have mucho trouble with the IADs though.

[venom2978]

one more question. why is saki ranked lower then heart and mei fang? when i was at university pinball on free play day, i saw alot of people using saki and pretty much dominating. i would of thought that she was just as good, if not better then heart and mei fang

[woof]

just because you see a single character getting a lot of play does not mean that they are the best! with that said i think saki lacks most of the tools that heart and meifang both share. dive kick and flashkick super aside, i think shes a watered down heart

[Zazzarius]

so i was checking out arcana for the first time as i'm planning on getting it when it comes out but i can't really read 215+ pages, sorry.

so i got a few questions:
1. i like guilty gear and i mainly use dizzy. who can fill my need of moe and sick wake-up games?
2. kamui: kinda like sakaki from azumanga or totally like sakaki from azumanga?
3. bubz: who's got the best set?
4. i heard there's AC and AC Full. which is considered the standard version that everyone should play?
5. atlus: why they censorin' the love goddess bubz?
6. who's a good simple starter to learn the game's subsystems with?
7. there progressive scan in this? i heard conflicting reports about this.

[orka]

so i was checking out arcana for the first time as i'm planning on getting it when it comes out but i can't really read 215+ pages, sorry.

so i got a few questions:
1. i like guilty gear and i mainly use dizzy. who can fill my need of moe and sick wake-up games?
2. kamui: kinda like sakaki from azumanga or totally like sakaki from azumanga?
3. bubz: who's got the best set?
4. i heard there's AC and AC Full. which is considered the standard version that everyone should play?
5. atlus: why they censorin' the love goddess bubz?
6. who's a good simple starter to learn the game's subsystems with?
7. there progressive scan in this? i heard conflicting reports about this.

1. maori is the closest to dizzy in terms of playstyle... although she doesn't have dizzy's crazy mixup/lockdown game.
2. kamui is like every other person's first option, cus she looks cool. a really solid character, too.
3. maori, of course. mei-fang's are bigger, but mei-fang is also much taller. so if you look at them in terms of overall body proportions, maori wins. HOW CAN YOU SAY NO TO THESE!?!? (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/tianyuan2k4/AH2/A14.jpg) besides, we all know robot bubz are fake.
4. AH Full!
5. i didn't even know about that... what is there to censor anyway? :confused:
6. i say heart, saki or kamui.
7. i don't think so.

[Zazzarius]

5. i didn't even know about that... what is there to censor anyway? :confused:


i didn't know anything until i was looking at the official atlus site and saw the lens flare covering up the bubz :confused:

look at atlus' site under characters and even the wallpaper. covered up bubz. :sad:

[orka]

i didn't know anything until i was looking at the official atlus site and saw the lens flare covering up the bubz :confused:

look at atlus' site under characters and even the wallpaper. covered up bubz. :sad:

she has no nipples though, why would you censor it

[Zazzarius]

http://www.atlus.com/arcanaheart/c1_1280.jpg

ask atlus

[orka]

http://www.atlus.com/arcanaheart/c1_1280.jpg

ask atlus

oh god wtf... let's hope they won't "draw" a pair of pants on mei-fang sprites

[Keits]

I nailed that part of the combo, but i cant IAD so im just doing this now:

2a,2b,2b,623b,6hc,6a,6b,j.a,j.b,j.c, shurican or fireball or firesuper

[CrimsonDisaster]

If you don't want/can't do the IAD combo, you can do whatever to 2C XX 623B 6D 5A > 5B JC jA > B JC djA > B > 2C (leave out the djA at your leisure). Not great but it's something.

[Master Chibi]

i dunno... with fiona... ja, 5a , jb, 5b are excellent clashes.. but yea as far as options... yeah she crap with that...her biggest strength is her aa... i mean..you have 3c which is prolly the longest aa in the game problay .... 5c...while can be block in the air can punish most incoming attacks.. air dashes.. both foward and backdashes.... j 2c can be used as aa as well... mad good range.. as well as jb...

as far as rush down..there isn't much.. pretty much you can mixup 2a and 6b.. since they do change you can mix that up....which 2a leads to combos... while 6b leads to63214 a+b.. but really that's all she has for rushdown.. pretty much you just have to use your pokes and keep your distance... becuase really she has very tough times getting out of rush down.. so your D has to be on point and look for holes to throw 5c or GC out that shit...

Bro, in like ALL instances where she clashes, her best bet is iad backwards away from whoever she clashed with, or to jump straight up. That's hardly an advantage regardless of what she's got going for clashing normals.

And she can't rushdown for shit, but you know this. I don't think she's got a worthwhile defense either, but whatever.

[Sabin]

Oh shit, i didnt even THINK that an arcana might effect that. I was using rock. Ill switch to fire and see if i can land it. im going to have mucho trouble with the IADs though.

i thought i would have that problem cuz i cant iad for shit in gg (then again i never played it much,) but arcana iads are fine to me aftr some practic. though i hear the iad notation is different in both games.

also, yeah, rock arcana has a slower homing cancel on the ground b/c of super armor, so thats why your combos are dropping proly

[Keits]

Thanks guys. As long as j1n doesnt read this thread before Gamma Bowl, im going to surprise the shit out of him with Konoha instead of Kira.

[orka]

Keits, even if you scrub out... make sure to cap all your air combos with j.2c

[Faight]

Atlus h8 in this thread. This game is about lolis and bubz, if they censor it we will hate them forever.

[Gasaraki]

Atlus h8 in this thread. This game is about lolis and bubz, if they censor it we will hate them forever.

Huh, why would ATLUS of all poeple censor it? They just released Persona 3 last year and nothing was changed in that :confused:

[Zazzarius]

Huh, why would ATLUS of all poeple censor it? They just released Persona 3 last year and nothing was changed in that :confused:
Love Goddess Bubz Censorin' Games (http://www.atlus.com/arcanaheart/c1_1280.jpg) :confused:

[Gasaraki]

I R stoopid

But yeah, wtf? What the hell is the point of that.

[Kayin]

That's MAD ghetto. :rofl:

[Return of Shiki]

Atlus h8 in this thread. This game is about lolis and bubz, if they censor it we will hate them forever.

Because obviously, who cares about fixing game-freezing glitches and terrible load times, right?

[Faight]

Because obviously, who cares about fixing game-freezing glitches and terrible load times, right?

Who cares about that stuff when we can't see the outline of Partinias' massive knockers? Boycott the game I say.

[someAzNdude]

Bro, in like ALL instances where she clashes, her best bet is iad backwards away from whoever she clashed with, or to jump straight up. That's hardly an advantage regardless of what she's got going for clashing normals.

And she can't rushdown for shit, but you know this. I don't think she's got a worthwhile defense either, but whatever.

Yeah Fiona sucks hard in clashes since she doesn't have any good options without the help from meter/arcana. I would say using 623A for clash option for the super armor but it isn't exactly safe and it can get beat out (aka 5a 2a spam) or sucker punching the opponent with 623AB super, who's gonna expect that coming? >_>
Then again this too isn't safe to use :( a better option would be 214AB super on ground vs ground clashing, its a lot safer than 623AB just that you need meter for it and make sure you got a homing gauge just in case it gets blocked... :/

and LOL at Atlus censoring partinias' bubz

[Nastrodamus]

i never said that she was mad offensive or mad defensive i was just pointing out shit that she was good at.... i think she has very good AA's and very nice pokes..... the clashing shit... i already know i've lost those (unless it's air clashing cuse she does fairly decent in that..) and no i would never want to do 623 a or a+b... she can still get mashed out of those..although 214 A or A+b might be some options but meh.. it's alittle to far fetch..

[Sabin]

i hope theres no more censoring in gameplay

lieselotte combo video btw...sick fucking combos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X9cCBOsGLs&NR=1

ninja edit: new arcana videos (1/27) at game41
http://game41.web.infoseek.co.jp/movieroom.htm

scroll down a little to the 1/27 update

[orka]

why are we talking about actual strats? weird

i'll bring some fresh maori bubz action to frxi... i hope i won't be the only one

[Makoto Scrub]

i'll bring some fresh maori bubz action to frxi... i hope i won't be the only one
You might be, cause I know I wont be able to make it. :sad:

Show 'em the powa of teh bubz.

[unvrsty pnbal]

I nailed that part of the combo, but i cant IAD so im just doing this now:

2a,2b,2b,623b,6hc,6a,6b,j.a,j.b,j.c, shurican or fireball or firesuper

Konoha has more way to lengthen her combos without IAD. She still has her dash punch combos. But iad still is VERY important for her.

Also as far as enders go if you use j. abc into her flame super you can still use dj. 2C as your ender or airdash 2.c depending on their height.
Ending with 2c Sets up alot of options for her.

[orka]

You might be, cause I know I wont be able to make it. :sad:

Show 'em the powa of teh bubz.

noooo

no ken or you?? and if xaq doesn't go, i will be the only member of the bubzmen there... oh well, i guess i can rep team gekko state instead


*random*
ken: sekirei anime is confirmed!! it will begin airing july 2008 :hitit:

[woof]

i'll bring some fresh maori bubz action to frxi... i hope i won't be the only one
you prolly will be

at least i know im not going

[orka]

you prolly will be

at least i know im not going

how bout pappa stone?

[DS]

Damn, so many of the key players not going except me and orka? BLASPHEMY, I SAY!

[woof]

how bout pappa stone?
how about you ask him and not me retard!!!!!


edit: ACTUALLY he doesnt even have a computer right now i dont think

[Keits]

I just fought against a real life person playing kira for the first time. HATE. cant combo her!!!

[orka]

you prolly will be

at least i know im not going

wtf new orleans

is stone living off subsidy farming and gathering berries?

[Master Chibi]

merge the damn threads already

[Harem]

change your diapers

[Master Chibi]

change your diapers

marge the damn heads already

[Faight]

I just fought against a real life person playing kira for the first time. HATE. cant combo her!!!

Who do you use?

[Keits]

Who do you use?

kira and konoha

[Faight]

kira and konoha

For Konoha's BnB just drop the dash punch midscreen. IE: 2ABC 6D etc instead of 2ABC 623B 6D. Everything else works fine. In the corner you can do the normal BnB.

I dunno about Kira. I hate her.

Edit: Or you can just play Mei-Fang because she rapes Kira in a way I want to see in a Doujinshi. 6B demolishes her jumpins, and Mei-Fang can do her corner bnb on kira anywhere, not just in the corner. It's silly easy and good damage.

[orka]

let there be loops... and cries of "bullshit!!" at frxi

the gekko state cannot be stopped

[Nastrodamus]

kira is mad stupid to combo.. although you just have to shorten it up... i know with kamui... you have to do only abc 6HC instead of the normal one... and i think fiona regualar bnb still works on her so im satisfied with that..

[Faight]

I got banned from #arcana again.

=/

[Mizuki]

I wonder how many shit talkers will appear outta WC when US release comes out.

[woof]

I got banned from #arcana again.

=/
livejournal post THANKS BUT WE DONT NEED TWO PHAES

[Faight]

livejournal post THANKS BUT WE DONT NEED TWO PHAES

but my vergina is bleedinggggg

More seriously,

Anything big happening before FRXI? I need to skill up.

[Superking]

Hey can anyone fill me in on the whole supergun arrangement for AH in general? I'm planning on getting AH2, and Examu is using the same board for that. It's no TypeX2 board (which is a PC tower pretty much) or any of the legacy Sega, SNK and Capcom boards.

[Sabin]

^ ask fubarduck he would know

[Random123456789]

Hello, thanks to you guys (with the Arcana Wiki) I was able to pick up on Saki's combos very quickly. Here is what I have so far, (Kamui video is just a tester video to make sure it works, a proper video of her will come shortly; and the sound isn't working, and I don't know why, if anyone knows, please let me know--thanks a lot!):
www.youtube.com/thewatcher458
Enjoy!

[BlackShinobi]

I suck at Arcana.

That is all.

:sad:

[Superking]

^ ask fubarduck he would know

I know, but he doesn't really have an account per say.

[Demon_Hyo]

Me and Ken get OWNED by faulty arcana heart cabinet wiring. That's all I will say...:sad:

[Nastrodamus]

vids are up for that free play day in philly in the philly thread for arcana so check those out!!!

and the tourney was still good lots of good matches!!

faight unless i see you at C3 and they do an AH tourney or sumthin then FRXI will be next one...

[someAzNdude]

Me and Ken get OWNED by faulty arcana heart cabinet wiring. That's all I will say...:sad:

:sad:

[Sabin]

EDIT: superking: poonage is fubarduck

Damn, I wish I could play with you guys at these Arcana events. It seemed like Arcana was the biggest tournament there. I'm really fiending to play someone again. I fucking hate being up here in Ithaca. :sad:

sumazndude/Brandon: :sad::annoy::wasted:

In other news, new vids.
http://youtube.com/user/rail917

My personal favorite of the bunch:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q39GWOGgK_c

Kamui player is a fucking cheater and does her Time infinite glitch FTW. :rofl:

[pbj_mixxa]

Fucking Time glitch hurting my Heart!!!

[Mizuki]

I'm really fiending to play someone again. I fucking hate being up here in Ithaca. :sad:

At least you had people to play with! I'm sitting here bored outta my mind in training mode!

[CrimsonDisaster]

Kamui player is a fucking cheater and does her Time infinite glitch FTW. :rofl:

he almost lost that round getting meter ;p

Also I like how that infinite does so little damage :looney:

[Faight]

faight unless i see you at C3 and they do an AH tourney or sumthin then FRXI will be next one...

I'm like 99% sure I'll be at C3. Unless something horrible happens. Prepare to be underwhelmed!

[HeartNana]

For those who didn't see, here's the vids from my house tourney (thanks to Capps)
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4797598&postcount=23

[Dave2J]

Wow that darn infinite with kamui is hella cheap, I wonder if they took it out in american port??????????? Well in 2 days on wednesday we get to see arcana heart2 in action along with street fighter4 soulcaliber4 and maybe blaz blue!!!!!!!! I cant frackin wait.

[Bill307]

In other news, new vids.
http://youtube.com/user/rail917

My personal favorite of the bunch:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q39GWOGgK_c

Kamui player is a fucking cheater and does her Time infinite glitch FTW. :rofl:
Good stuff. My favourite was definitely the last one: 殿 ("Ass"??) Plant Lilica vs 台拭き ("Dish Rag"?) Time Kamui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIYGbHmJaWI
I love close matches like this one, especially when almost every round has a close ending.

There are also 6 other matches (http://www.nicovideo.jp/search/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A) with these players on Nico Video (http://thenextweb.org/2008/01/15/how-to-register-for-japanese-video-site-nico-nico-douga/) as well. In particular, I really enjoyed watching that Lilica player, 殿, vs that Heart player, カリパー (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2280588), and vs Metal Slime (that Kira player) (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2280243). His double-cross-up, where he jumps over the other player then dashes back, is really strong and works almost every time. It's also neat to see how Lilica can use Plant/Poison/Gier.

Hopefully those other matches will be uploaded later on Youtube as well.

[foxfire]

play-asia.com just reduced their price on the imported version of arcana heart if you haven't gotten it yet and can't wait until April.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40-49-en-15-arcana+heart-70-245h.html

[Nastrodamus]

just got done watching those Hnana house vids... pretty good yo... andy!!! i see ya with that heart.. and good stuff random... gier kamui looking solid... and rob that lisolette does he play SC as well.. but good shit to him and everyone else.. and of course rob that... that time shit was hella good...kira mirriors are very funny!!!

[Sabin]

Wow that darn infinite with kamui is hella cheap, I wonder if they took it out in american port??????????? Well in 2 days on wednesday we get to see arcana heart2 in action along with street fighter4 soulcaliber4 and maybe blaz blue!!!!!!!! I cant frackin wait.

the infinite is banned anyway in tournaments so whatever, doesnt matter either way.

Good stuff. My favourite was definitely the last one: 殿 ("Ass"??) Plant Lilica vs 台拭き ("Dish Rag"?) Time Kamui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIYGbHmJaWI
I love close matches like this one, especially when almost every round has a close ending.

There are also 6 other matches (http://www.nicovideo.jp/search/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A) with these players on Nico Video (http://thenextweb.org/2008/01/15/how-to-register-for-japanese-video-site-nico-nico-douga/) as well. In particular, I really enjoyed watching that Lilica player, 殿, vs that Heart player, カリパー (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2280588), and vs Metal Slime (that Kira player) (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2280243). His double-cross-up, where he jumps over the other player then dashes back, is really strong and works almost every time. It's also neat to see how Lilica can use Plant/Poison/Gier.

Hopefully those other matches will be uploaded later on Youtube as well.

I have to step it up and start watching Nico again.

play-asia.com just reduced their price on the imported version of arcana heart if you haven't gotten it yet and can't wait until April.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40-49-en-15-arcana+heart-70-245h.html


I would reccomend against it since the USA version will be cheaper and have bugfixes, and from my perspective, right now the USA version could use some sales if they dont fuck it up.

But if you wanna buy it go ahead. :)


Mizuki: WC getting into Arcana is the last piece of the political puzzle, once that happens then the game cant be ignored imo.

[Mizuki]

Mizuki: WC getting into Arcana is the last piece of the political puzzle, once that happens then the game cant be ignored imo.

They're too busy sucking at Melty Blood, and sucking cocks in Guilty Gear to even try Arcana.

[Hyperhal]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=149405

Lets gooooooo

[Mizuki]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=149405

Lets gooooooo

You gunna fly me out?

[BlackShinobi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4w80vErdNE

Jeebus Rob. :looney:

[orka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4w80vErdNE

Jeebus Rob. :looney:

rob is a cheater :sad:

[Master Chibi]

Time Heart is so awful.

I can't wait to play her in a tournament.

I'm going to cheese the fuck out of everyone.

And god Fiona is such ass. Going back to her after two months made me wish I had never played in the first place.

It seemed like Arcana was the biggest tournament there.

Nope, that was Melty. (Unless you're talking about Rob's deal, in which case, yes, hella hype for Arcana).

( Sorry, had to, please dont hurt me :)~ )

[Sabin]

Time Heart is so awful.

I can't wait to play her in a tournament.

I'm going to cheese the fuck out of everyone.

And god Fiona is such ass. Going back to her after two months made me wish I had never played in the first place.



Nope, that was Melty. (Unless you're talking about Rob's deal, in which case, yes, hella hype for Arcana).

( Sorry, had to, please dont hurt me :)~ )

thats cool

also i started upping vids from nicovideo on my youtube account
http://youtube.com/user/nycfurby

check out the game newton 2on2 tourney

Yoriko and Fiona in top 3

D tier Fiona won the tourney against S tier Liese~
so yeah

yet another example of JPN stepping it up instead of complaining their chars suck yet again :looney:
ill upload more shit in the future

[Master Chibi]

Hey that's great.

One game netwon tournament doesn't keep Fiona from being the worst character in the game.

And I'm still playing her (along with Heart) regardless, so take the preaching elsewhere Art :rofl:.

Oh, and merge the threads while you're at it~

[someAzNdude]

I don't even think tiers even matter unless you got a group of people with similar skill levels playing
Even if the character is S tier or w/e, if the player is trash then tiers don't mean shit. It all comes down to the better player :/

[orka]

guys, chibi is just trying to brainwash all of you with guerilla tactics. you see his avatar? that girl is asking to get raped! up da butt!!

so he is also hoping we will somehow also be convinced fiona = git raped.

on other hand, look what i made (http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/output/motivator4567109.jpg).

[Faight]

I don't even think tiers even matter unless you got a group of people with similar skill levels playing
Even if the character is S tier or w/e, if the player is trash then tiers don't mean shit. It all comes down to the better player :/

At least give me a fighting chance man. Without tier-whoring I really have nothing.

[HeartNana]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4w80vErdNE

Jeebus Rob. :looney: I got lucky.

[someAzNdude]

At least give me a fighting chance man. Without tier-whoring I really have nothing.

my bad faight :(

[Master Chibi]

I don't even think tiers even matter unless you got a group of people with similar skill levels playing
Even if the character is S tier or w/e, if the player is trash then tiers don't mean shit. It all comes down to the better player :/

Dude you know that, and I know that, but you KNOW Fiona isn't really good at all. That doesn't keep her from winning, but she's still not good, and I was just bloody pointing that out. Finally sitting down and playing even just an 'average' character like Heart and making the comparisons made me realize it.

:P

[Faight]

Now just learn Liese, Chibi, and you can have some real fun with the game.

Also come to C3. I want to play as many people as possible.

[Master Chibi]

Noone plays Arcana down there, or MB for that matter, so no.

Too much of a hassle anyway.

[BlackShinobi]

I used to think Lieselotte vs Konoha was a horrible matchup but the more I watch her and play against her the more I see holes in how she fights. I think I could turn that matchup in Konohas favor if I had enough time against a good Liese player.

I learned mad shit this weekend. I got to see how other people play Konoha first hand. And I learned alot about Kamui. I've been trying to play Noel since NEC. The way his Kamui moves is different from the Kamui players in Philly.

Now I just want to level up and play Rob again.

EDIT: Thanks alot Arturo. Whoever made that intro video is Awesome, anyway does anyone know the combo Konoha does during the intro, her pic is covering up part of it. I don't know if it does more but it looks cooler than her normal non arcana corner combos.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4DnuH0zmG8g

Youtube + arcana is too strong today.

[White Rob]

That Time Kamui bug is still in the U.S. version as of right now... -_- I will report the bug to the devs and see what they can do about it. Time is running short for these fixes, so if anyone knows of ANYTHING else, I'm all ears.

Sabin: Thanks for posting those vids on YouTube AND on the Atlus forums. I hadn't seen a few of them, and I scour YouTube pretty often for Arcana Heart footage.

[Gasaraki]

They're too busy sucking at Melty Blood, and sucking cocks in Guilty Gear to even try Arcana.

I'm curious, where on the WC do you live? please say socal cause I'm actually intresting in trying the game when it comes out in the US release. PM me back or something

[Master Chibi]

That Time Kamui bug is still in the U.S. version as of right now... -_- I will report the bug to the devs and see what they can do about it. Time is running short for these fixes, so if anyone knows of ANYTHING else, I'm all ears.

Sabin: Thanks for posting those vids on YouTube AND on the Atlus forums. I hadn't seen a few of them, and I scour YouTube pretty often for Arcana Heart footage.

Can you get them to cut back on the god awful loading times?

Even the arcade let's you bypass that horrid happy hardcore vs introduction screen if the characters being played are the same as the match before it.

[BlackShinobi]

That Time Kamui bug is still in the U.S. version as of right now... -_- I will report the bug to the devs and see what they can do about it. Time is running short for these fixes, so if anyone knows of ANYTHING else, I'm all ears.

Sabin: Thanks for posting those vids on YouTube AND on the Atlus forums. I hadn't seen a few of them, and I scour YouTube pretty often for Arcana Heart footage.

Actually there is one that happened to me a while ago, that I had forgotten about but I don't know the reasons for it though.

I was rushing Dave down pretty hard in the corner with water Konoha and his character got stuck in the wall. I believe he had gier/Kamui. Not really sure what happened though.

[HeartNana]

did you 360 throw him or something at a wierd time?

That move shoves the opp to the corner pretty fast sometimes...

[BlackShinobi]

did you 360 throw him or something at a wierd time?

That move shoves the opp to the corner pretty fast sometimes...

No I was IADing at him really fast repeatedly with bubbles on and his character goes back and she is on the other side of the corner and none of her moves will cross this invisible barrier at the end of the screen. He tried her charge move and it stopped directly in front of her and wouldn't travel any further.

[orka]

White Rob, i don't know about how the others feel... but i personally wouldn't mind the kamui time glitch being there. although it's annoying, that's something we can soft ban at tourneys.

i think what most of us want to see is glithces that are not present in the arcade version to be removed.

what most of us want is not necessarily a glitch-free but a arcade-perfect port instead.

[CrimsonDisaster]

Yeah don't remove Time Kamui infinite glitch yo, keep the port as close to arcade perfect as you can get with a port.

[White Rob]

I see your point, Orka. What are other AH players' opinions on keeping the glitch in the game? Yes or no? If anyone knows of a way where you can use this Time Kamui bug to lock up the game, I am of the opinion that it should go for sure.

BlackShinobi, I will try to investigate the cause of what might've happened in the scenario you mentioned.