View Full Version : The New Arcana HYPE Thread - Asians split pot at NEC, Sabin allows it by no showing
Person-Man
03-24-2008, 12:57 PM
I use Kira partly because one of the first impressive AH players I saw used her, and partly because she is like the daughter of Makoto and Hugo from 3s.
I don't even want to imagine her conception.
dj_de
03-24-2008, 01:13 PM
Correct.
I hope you really don't think this way.
Oh Potemkin is pretty fucking retarded good in AC, he's his own character type now. I mean he does the damage that he does off a half circle motion for his command grabs, that's just wrong. Don't even get me started on his other shit.
Do you really think that in order to be a REAL grappler, you must have some "hard to execute, high damage throw"? Guess what, 360s aren't hard to do in the first place.
Well is it fair to give a character a command throw that does 30% to 40% (not even counting the super versions) and then give them the means to get in on you easily? That's what makes the character type fun to work with, the actual act of getting in. It's a reward for doing so. When Zangief finally gets right in your face you can just kiss your ass goodbye. By giving him mobility you lose the fun of working hard to get in, because now you can just do it with minimal effort.
SPD hasn't done that much damage since the really early versions of SF2. How would it be fun to play a character that's totally gimped and lacks all the options everyone else can have. How can it be fun to play a grappler when everyone is going to be better than you by default?
Getting in with a grappler is not an instant win like you seem to think. You have to get in and stay in. And guess, what everyone usually has moves to push them back to range. Now add in the fact that everyone else besides the grappler has way better movement options, what the hell is he going to do?
Your idea of grappler is stuck in World Warrior Zangief when grapplers have changed dramatically since then. Now apparently Zangief himself isn't a grappler!
Master Chibi
03-24-2008, 01:22 PM
I hope you really don't think this way.
I do~
Do you really think that in order to be a REAL grappler, you must have some "hard to execute, high damage throw"? Guess what, 360s aren't hard to do in the first place.
Well not anymore, but it's a bit harder to do then any other motion in the game, to some extent.
How would it be fun to play a character that's totally gimped and lacks all the options everyone else can have. How can it be fun to play a grappler when everyone is going to be better than you by default?
Well that's why I said it's a reward on being able to get in, and that they've given him the tools to get there. It's not easy, but that REALLY is the fun of the character type.
Getting in with a grappler is not an instant win like you seem to think. You have to get in and stay in. And guess, what everyone usually has moves to push them back to range.
You're right it's not an instant win, but I think landing that throw (or super throw to be precise) is more than enough to turn the tables to your favor.
Now add in the fact that everyone else besides the grappler has way better movement options, what the hell is he going to do?
Well if you give them the better movement options look what happens. They become an entirely different archetype. They're just not a grappler anymore, and in many cases they end up being high to top tier. Obviously that's not a bad thing, but it's not a grappler character anymore.
I can't look at a game like 3S that has HUGO in it, and then look at Makoto, and say, yeah, they're both grapplers. That doesn't click at all.
Tiggy
03-24-2008, 03:45 PM
The gayest thing happened to me Wednesday....I was practicing in AH when I pulled my PS2 off the shelf. The cord on the AH stick wasn't as long as I thought it was. As a result of the PS2 falling, my copy of AH got scratched. Now I can't get the disc to load on the PS2....if I want to practice before the U.S. release, I have to play on the PS3 which has a little lag. Like I said, the gayest thing ever. I guess I could always buy a DVD repair kit or something and remove the scratches.
I finally managed to get my AH copy working in my PS2 again!:woot: Back to the lab.....
In regards to the discussion about grapplers/hybrids/archetypes....ummmm.......
I finally managed to get my AH copy working in my PS2 again!:woot:
Sabin
03-24-2008, 04:05 PM
anyone who thinks Kira aint a grappler is on crack :looney:
o and jst so you know, Chibi does not represent the arcana community in any way shape or form so yeah :lovin:
ps2 usa ah1 release is almost imminent..hopefully we can build the community again
Zee Tee Bee
03-24-2008, 04:38 PM
o and jst so you know, Chibi does not represent the arcana community in any way shape or form so yeah :lovin:
haha nice try but you're stuck with him. Even if he's not a 'representative'
he's still part of the wonderful and growing AH community so....have fun. :lovin:
Bring him back in one piece, ok. :rofl:
(no homo)
Zazzarius
03-24-2008, 04:54 PM
i was under the impression that a "grappler" is a character who does the majority of their damage by either:
a. GRABBIN SHIT.
b. scaring enemies into screwing up with the threat of GRABBIN THEIR SHIT.
Sabin
03-24-2008, 05:20 PM
haha nice try but you're stuck with him. Even if he's not a 'representative'
he's still part of the wonderful and growing AH community so....have fun. :lovin:
Bring him back in one piece, ok. :rofl:
(no homo)
what wonderful and growing ah community do you speak of?
nah u can have him
id rather trade u for chibi. REELTOK :rofl:
basically, what im getting at is even thogh ah2 is all new, shiny and good, noones outside of maybe 50 people tops in america are going to play it, unless other arcades step up and get ah2 (west coast, tho i dont see it happening.) ah2 console relasse probably aint gonna happen until the end of the year anyway so i still support this game
remember to yell I WANT THAT GAME WITH LITTLE GIRLS when you pick up your copy at gamespot
Zazzarius
03-24-2008, 05:49 PM
remember to yell I WANT THAT GAME WITH LITTLE GIRLS when you pick up your copy at gamespot
already on my to do list
Master Chibi
03-24-2008, 06:35 PM
anyone who thinks Kira aint a grappler is on crack :looney:
She's a grappler, when did I say she wasn't it?
o and jst so you know, Chibi does not represent the arcana community in any way shape or form so yeah :lovin:
I've already made note of that in other posts I've made (that what I've said is my opinion and mine alone). I don't see why anyone would think I represent your community to begin with because you don't actually have one yet.
REELTOK.
ps2 usa ah1 release is almost imminent..hopefully we can build the community again
Good luck, I'll be buzy shooting people in the face.
Sabin
03-24-2008, 06:46 PM
She's a grappler, when did I say she wasn't it?
Uhh....
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4951268&postcount=5738
Makoto is not a grappler.
And Kira is not one either.
No grappler should have that much mobility / speed, it upsets the balance of having their throws do so much damage in the first place.
I've already made note of that in other posts I've made (that what I've said is my opinion and mine alone). I don't see why anyone would think I represent your community to begin with because you don't actually have one yet.
REELTOK.
Good luck, I'll be buzy shooting people in the face.[/quote]
uhh, you have/had more posts than anyone else in the thread, save for me and HeartNana, so i think its easy to see why people might be confused.
What happened to that MB/AH alliance? Seems like you cant stop shitting on AH every chance you get :rolleyes:
Master Chibi
03-24-2008, 06:56 PM
There never was an alliance, I don't see how that ever came to be. Noone in the MB community hates AH1 (except me), but then noone really cares for it either. I don't understand this whole holding hands and running towards the sunset deal you think is going on anyway.
It's just you guys are in a sticky situation now. Thanks to Examu being a bunch of morons, you've got to handle pushing AH1, but the area that primarily plays the game to begin with (CF, UP, and some other place I'm sure) are going to be gung ho for AH2 in like two weeks.
Good luck pushing that, seriously, because I'm pretty sure noone is going to bother with AH1 when there's three arcade set ups available for its sequel well within reasonable traveling distance of one another.
The Grey Area
03-24-2008, 07:11 PM
Good point ,but I know that AH2 will get little to no play in Ga because the arcade scene is damn near gone. The little that there is will be playing more traditional games. Chibi, remember the Tekken players at Final Round? That is te best example of our arcade goers. Now, picture them seeing AH2 in an arcade. Anyone going near that thing will be clowned all to hell. I am buying AH because it will be the only way to play the game. It will most likely be the only way most people will even hear of the game.
Master Chibi
03-24-2008, 08:00 PM
Oh I'm not hating on anyone wanting to play the first one at all, or trying to get the community up and running again. It's just a backwards situation when the group who already played the first one more than anyone else is going to be the only ones with access to the sequel and yet here the port of the first one is coming out for everyone else. So when the questions start popping up for AH1 one, we'll have to reach into the back of our skulls to push away what we've already discovered on AH2 to answer it.
Is there a wiki you guys can hit up? I'd love to tell you to hit up their forums but that's just a laughing matter all together.
Like I said, good luck, if you like the game, stick with it.
Tiggy
03-24-2008, 09:01 PM
remember to yell I WANT THAT GAME WITH LITTLE GIRLS when you pick up your copy at gamespot
:rofl:
I'll do that. There are two reserves for AH at my local Gamestop....one of them is by me. I am going to find that other person who has the game reserved and hype that shit up! I just hope that it isn't somebody I already know (who doesn't help me practice).
Oh I'm not hating on anyone wanting to play the first one at all, or trying to get the community up and running again. It's just a backwards situation when the group who already played the first one more than anyone else is going to be the only ones with access to the sequel and yet here the port of the first one is coming out for everyone else. So when the questions start popping up for AH1 one, we'll have to reach into the back of our skulls to push away what we've already discovered on AH2 to answer it.
Is there a wiki you guys can hit up? I'd love to tell you to hit up their forums but that's just a laughing matter all together.
Like I said, good luck, if you like the game, stick with it.
There's not much in the back of my skull to dig up concerning AH :rofl: A newb trying to help a newb is the funniest thing ever....I mean, I've been playing AH since the console release, but I still suck at doing certain things. I haven't really scratched the surface of the game just yet.
Gasaraki
03-24-2008, 09:08 PM
your'e discouraging MC.
SADFACE :sad:
Bill307
03-24-2008, 11:39 PM
Well, it kind of sucks having so much of the hype move over to AH2 when we're just now getting a US release of AH1. But AH1 is still a really fun game, imo at least. Once the summer starts, I'll probably end up playing Brawl and Third Strike a lot more than Arcana Heart, since I actually have friends in Waterloo who play those games, but I'll never miss an opportunity to get some competitive AH action! I actually prefer it over Brawl and 3s. :smile:
Naturally, I'll try to answer any AH questions that come our way. I may not be very good, but I have seen several hundred videos on youtube :looney:.
Besides, there is probably still plenty of stuff to be discovered in AHF, since it's been out for less than a year and most Japanese players will probably focus on AH2 now, giving the rest of us without access to AH2 a chance to find some new and cool tricks for AHF.
Master Chibi
03-24-2008, 11:42 PM
@ Tiggy:
There's not much in the back of my skull to dig up concerning AH A newb trying to help a newb is the funniest thing ever....I mean, I've been playing AH since the console release, but I still suck at doing certain things. I haven't really scratched the surface of the game just yet.
Keep playing it then, and look for other people to get into it. Spread the word and all that.
@ Gas:
your'e discouraging MC.
SADFACE
you complete me~
Shotokan Symphony
03-25-2008, 12:41 AM
Wow, what the hell, Chibs?
Hyperhal
03-25-2008, 04:00 AM
I've gotten 4 of my HS friends to reserve AH1, so I'm trying to manage something. D:
Nastrodamus
03-25-2008, 02:48 PM
wait does that kanae in AB aint' a grapple charcter cuse she's hot... wow...that's a low blow to the grappler... so basically if ain't zangief... then it ain't a grappler that sad...
and you mention MB/AH alliance plenty of times.... esp. in the future games for evo thread... you stated it many times...
i should just buy multiple copies and give them out to lazy hos in chicago so they will play
nGuman
03-25-2008, 08:00 PM
i should just buy multiple copies and give them out to lazy hos in chicago so they will play
Thats very kind of you. But maybe the hoes don't got a PS2 :(
Bill307
03-25-2008, 11:53 PM
Good news for Canadians: we can now pre-order Arcana Heart for only $35 CDN: this site has lowered its price from $50 CDN.
http://www.videogamesplus.ca/product_info.php?products_id=13888&osCsid=c4f
Capps Indigo
03-26-2008, 03:12 PM
Final Round XI: Arcana Heart Full 1v1:
FRXI - Arcana Heart - Sabin (KAM) v Frank the Tank (KIR) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBSz8dfpHRs)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - Noel (KAM) v skisonic (KON) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy7-LpguHd8)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - KenmastersX (SAK) v JWong (KAM) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIr-9qojS-U)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - meta (LIS) v skisonic (KON) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATEw39uIado)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - Lilica v Fiona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm_9nJ5893E)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - meta (LIS) v Sabin (KAM) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8T_wAOugfs)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - Fiona v Frank the Tank (KIR) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cdLmI5rltA)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - Noel (KAM) v HeartNana (LIL) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTbqwlHAO54)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - Noel (KAM) v Frank the Tank (KIR) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ1HwRCKIeI)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - KenmastersX (SAK) v Sabin (KAM) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMcofIQd2is)
FRXI - Arcana Heart - Noel (KAM) v Sabin (KAM) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dsVHyoJjM)
FRXI -Arcana Heart WinnersFinal- Stone (SA) v HeartNana (LI) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6fxbaTMiMA)
FRXI -Arcana Heart LosersFinal- Stone (SAK) v Sabin (KAM) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhkigiVoxzs)
FRXI -AHFull Grand Final Set1 Pt1- Sabin(KA) v HeartNana(LI) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZI7YdkbFLw)
FRXI -AHFull Grand Final Set1 Pt2- Sabin(KA) v HeartNana(LI) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLdVPeEXH_s)
FRXI -AHFull Grand Final Set2 Pt1- Sabin(KA) v HeartNana(LI) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImVlfMCGlVA)
FRXI -AHFull Grand Final Set2 Pt2- Sabin(KA) v HeartNana(LI) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3RlgDnPMrA)
Enjoy!~
edit:
from post #640 (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4948655&postcount=640):
AH:
1. Rob "Heartnana"
2. Arturo Sanchez
3. Stone
4. Noel
5. Matt Frank "Giefrules"
5. Meta
7. Eric Jeffries "Haogui"
7. Capps
9. Justin Wong
9. Death S.
9. Skisonic
9. Nas
13. BB Hood
13. orka
13. JusDave
13. Return of shiki
17. Strider37
17. PB&J
17. Brandino
17. Keits
17. Blake jordan
17. Tiggy
Sabin
03-26-2008, 05:53 PM
Thanks a lot for the fast turnaround on the vids, Andy :)
someAzNdude
03-26-2008, 05:53 PM
Thanks for the vids Capps :D
Sugarmilktea
03-26-2008, 06:46 PM
Thanks for the uploading of the vids. Gonna leave some comments after watching them all
HeartNana
03-27-2008, 12:49 AM
Thanks for posting those vids so fast! Good stuff!
CrimsonDisaster
03-27-2008, 12:43 PM
i should just buy multiple copies and give them out to lazy hos in chicago so they will play
whoa even the hos in Chicago play AH??
Tiggy
03-27-2008, 09:02 PM
Capps, thanks for the vids and congrats on getting 7th!
Sabin
03-29-2008, 12:24 AM
Damn..tomorrows Chinatown tourney looks to be pretty intense, since everyone is popping off and hyped and everything. I was at Chinatown last night and everyone was trying to hype it up hardbody against me and Noel and Andre..
Considering tomorrow is gonna be the last arcana 1 tourney in Chinatown fair..we should def being dat arcana hate/hype tomorrow..go out in style definetely..
Gorehound
03-29-2008, 12:39 AM
Those were awesome vids :bgrin:
Loli Blades is a monster :wow:
Bringing the Hate one last time to CF before a new era of Hate comes in.
pbj_mixxa
03-29-2008, 08:46 AM
Thanks for getting the vids out so fast. Don't know how you do it, but I'm just glad you do!
... btw, to anyone that doesn't know, it should say "PBJ" not "PB&J". "PB&J" is some tekken-scrub that's trying to cop my name!
Person-Man
03-29-2008, 11:29 AM
Can some one explain to me how the whole Arcana system works at all? All I know for certain is that the Arcana add certain special and super moves to your character, maybe some properties as well such as having quicker air dashes or something.
From some matches I watched, I guessed that you can either use meter to use a super move, which is determined by Arcana, or use a Burst-esque move that can be used to cancel anything, even hitstun to get out of combos and moves to bait a punish.
Bill307
03-29-2008, 12:49 PM
I recommend checking out the Arcana Heart Wiki (http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page), which lists all the properties of each Arcana.
You've got the right ideas, pretty much. :smile: And yeah, you can activate your Arcana at most once per round, and it breaks you out of almost any combo (the game won't let you activate in the middle of a super auto-combo, for example).
By the way, activating your Arcana also replenishes your 3 homing bars. I've seen only a few players (Maori players) who sometimes activate their Arcana solely for this purpose.
Lastly, it might be worth pointing out that after you activate, there's a short period where you're (mostly-)invincible, but you can't counterattack right away. You can block/attack as soon as the invincibility ends. However, I THINK you can be thrown immediately after activating, even during the "invincibility". Example: see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA0iH7SKfv8 , at the end of the last round.
PS: Thanks for the videos, Capps. I've seen only the 1st set of the grand finals so far, and it was crazy. Matches going back and forth, with Rob consistently getting those Time supers and Arturo playing solid. Several really close finishes, too. Good stuff :tup:.
I especially liked that part where Arturo activated in the air and then Rob crossed under him (a cross-down?) and went into another combo :looney:.
brokenstep
03-29-2008, 04:29 PM
preordered the us release..
long time watcher first time player soon.. yay
Shin Akuma
03-29-2008, 05:03 PM
preordered the us release..
long time watcher first time player soon.. yay
Me too.
I pre-ordered mine from ATLUS' webstore.
It says that they ship to Canada, so hopefully it gets here quick.
Person-Man
03-30-2008, 12:54 AM
Thanks a lot for the link and explaination Bill. The Wiki will help a lot once I get the game. Like the above two, I am a long-time watcher, first-time player soon, and the wiki will be very helpful to get me up to speed with the community who had the last 6 months to a year to play.
Torn Apart
03-30-2008, 01:01 AM
preordered the us release..
long time watcher first time player soon.. yay
same here too
got my friend to pre order it, trying to get other people to pre order it as well.
hopefully i will have people to play once this comes out.
Tiggy
03-30-2008, 10:00 AM
I'm really happy to see the interest you guys have in the game. The wiki was comprised by some very gifted and knowledgable individuals. It helped me a lot, and I'm pretty sure it'll help you guys out once you get to play the game.
Oh yeah, and HYPE THAT SHIT UP!!!!!!:mad:
Doren2k
03-30-2008, 10:05 AM
People play this still ewwwwwwwwww. :( is the US version gonna be at gamestop or will i have to order off of the webz.
Gorehound
03-30-2008, 10:23 AM
I pre-ordered my at Gamecrazy, they said it will be available to purchase on 4/8, I hope so :bgrin:
I'm rooting for a full color Instruction Booklet just like what they did to Odin Sphere :tup:
Bill307
03-30-2008, 11:11 AM
Question: how do you guys get people hype for this game and to pre-order it? Everyone here in Waterloo plays either strictly Brawl or strictly 3s :shake:. Not that people haven't tried and enjoyed AH, but they just don't seem to have any interest in playing it competitively like they do with 3s/Brawl.
So far, it seems like standing back and letting newcomers bash against each other is the best thing to do when I manage to get the disc into a Waterloo PS2, while teaching them new techniques and strats between matches. (It's actually fun/hype to watch and they seem to have a lot of fun playing, too. Just another reason AH is so good. :smile:) I'm thinking maybe I should bring it up earlier and more often in between periods of 3s, then let others go at it. Also, maybe sharing cool match vids with them more often on MSN would help. :wonder:
Anyone have any advice?
Random match vid from Sept: Kindal (Time Kira) vs だんぷ (Fire Mei-Fang)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqA3h9NMp0
pbj_mixxa
03-30-2008, 11:25 AM
In response... welcome to the AH community! It's not just you who's having problems getting people to try this game out... WE ALL ARE!!! Just keep pushing the game as you've been doing and eventually people will catch on... if they're open-minded, that is. Sharing match vids, answering questions, sharing strats... those are all good ways to help spread the word.
White Rob
03-30-2008, 03:07 PM
I'm rooting for a full color Instruction Booklet just like what they did to Odin Sphere :tup:
The manual will be in full color and it was completely redesigned from the ground up since the Japanese one was really not up to our standards.
Anyone who's planning on pre-ordering from Atlus directly: I'd recommend going somewhere else. We are in the middle of transistioning our store to another online vendor, and we're not sure exactly how everything is panning out just yet.
Also, to anyone that's getting the game and lives in SoCal... message me so we can get some matches in once the game is released!
Mizuki
03-30-2008, 03:57 PM
You're my hero White Rob. One day I'll make a trip to socal to play you for a weekend.
Gorehound
03-30-2008, 04:00 PM
Question: how do you guys get people hype for this game and to pre-order it? Everyone here in Waterloo plays either strictly Brawl or strictly 3s :shake:. Not that people haven't tried and enjoyed AH, but they just don't seem to have any interest in playing it competitively like they do with 3s/Brawl.
So far, it seems like standing back and letting newcomers bash against each other is the best thing to do when I manage to get the disc into a Waterloo PS2, while teaching them new techniques and strats between matches. (It's actually fun/hype to watch and they seem to have a lot of fun playing, too. Just another reason AH is so good. :smile:) I'm thinking maybe I should bring it up earlier and more often in between periods of 3s, then let others go at it. Also, maybe sharing cool match vids with them more often on MSN would help. :wonder:
Anyone have any advice?
Random match vid from Sept: Kindal (Time Kira) vs だんぷ (Fire Mei-Fang)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqA3h9NMp0
In response... welcome to the AH community! It's not just you who's having problems getting people to try this game out... WE ALL ARE!!! Just keep pushing the game as you've been doing and eventually people will catch on... if they're open-minded, that is. Sharing match vids, answering questions, sharing strats... those are all good ways to help spread the word.
Yeah, that would be great if we can get more players to embrace AH more. I remember one time a while back someone mentioned that Capcom had something to do with the PS2 verison, so we all were saying "Praise the new CAPCOM game Arcana Heart" since a majority of the fighters are either Capcom, SNK, and Arc System works fanatics and they refuse to touch any other fighters that are not from those companies.
The manual will be in full color and it was completely redesigned from the ground up since the Japanese one was really not up to our standards.
Anyone who's planning on pre-ordering from Atlus directly: I'd recommend going somewhere else. We are in the middle of transistioning our store to another online vendor, and we're not sure exactly how everything is panning out just yet.
Also, to anyone that's getting the game and lives in SoCal... message me so we can get some matches in once the game is released!
Thats the best news I heard all day :tup:
Too bad BestBuys won't be carrying AH since its not in their website or in the inventory, I was hoping since they carried Odin Sphere before.
mrshmearo
03-31-2008, 01:09 PM
Seen the game at CF but never played, glad I'll get my hands on it soon. Cheers! :woot:
Gasaraki
03-31-2008, 09:46 PM
The manual will be in full color and it was completely redesigned from the ground up since the Japanese one was really not up to our standards.
Anyone who's planning on pre-ordering from Atlus directly: I'd recommend going somewhere else. We are in the middle of transistioning our store to another online vendor, and we're not sure exactly how everything is panning out just yet.
Also, to anyone that's getting the game and lives in SoCal... message me so we can get some matches in once the game is released!
awesome, and I will definitely contact you for aplaying session.
grgspunk
04-01-2008, 08:21 AM
Hey, I was just wondering, does Atlus plan on keeping the voices for the story mode cutscenes? I didn't hear any voices during the story segment in Kotaku's preview of the game... Was it possible to switch the voices off in the Japanese version of the game?
Bill307
04-02-2008, 12:29 AM
Woah Fiona, what's gotten into you?!
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4817/fionaln4.png
someAzNdude
04-02-2008, 10:08 AM
Woah Fiona, what's gotten into you?!
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4817/fionaln4.png
ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Fiona got a personality makeover in the US port lmao :rofl:
HARD BREAD
04-02-2008, 10:11 AM
Woah Fiona, what's gotten into you?!
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4817/fionaln4.png
this must be a mistake...wasn't that line supposed to be on kira's profile? :confused:
Zazzarius
04-02-2008, 01:31 PM
this must be a mistake...wasn't that line supposed to be on kira's profile? :confused:
it IS on kira's profile. someone forgot to fix it. :rofl:
White Rob
04-02-2008, 10:58 PM
Bill307: Wow, yea that's definitely a typo. Is that from our website or something? I will ask our webmaster to rectify that if it is.
But I think a lot of people will be surprised at the quirky personalities of the characters in the game. It was pretty surprising for me as someone who played the Japanese version extensively, but doesn't understand very much Japanese.
Gasaraki: I look forward to a match of Arcana Heart with you. It's great to see that someone from around here is interested in this game!
Gorehound: Best Buy (and Wal-Mart and the other large retail chains) carried Odin Sphere mainly because it was one of Atlus' more mainstream titles. As you might imagine, Arcana Heart is a bit more niche than Odin. You'll most likely have to go to a retailer that focuses on video games to find Arcana Heart.
Sabin
04-03-2008, 12:04 AM
I hope we can refresh the scene (or what was left of it) when the USA version of AH comes out. Thanks for all your work White Rob. Hopefully you can get some decent comp...all the players for this game are on the EC and Midwest for the most part.
AzN_Skater
04-03-2008, 12:07 AM
I'm getting my community into AH once it drops stateside.
Zazzarius
04-03-2008, 01:58 PM
Bill307: Wow, yea that's definitely a typo. Is that from our website or something? I will ask our webmaster to rectify that if it is.
Checked Atlus' site again just now. Yep its still there.
Evil Fiona comfirmed for AC! :confused:
HARD BREAD
04-03-2008, 02:15 PM
Checked Atlus' site again just now. Yep its still there.
Evil Fiona comfirmed for AC! :confused:
good shit...SATSUI no HADOU FIONA FTW! GET ON YOUR KNEES! :pray::pray::pray:
venom2978
04-03-2008, 08:16 PM
is there any1 in nj who plays? i can't make it out to ny or philly, so if theres ANYBODY in or near burlington or camden counties nj who plays hit me up...please. i can play ok, can do combos and stuff but i dont have much experience at all playin other people, but i want to. i use rock fang, plant heart, gier saki and love kamui
Sephiroth73003
04-04-2008, 04:24 AM
From Oklahoma and we are just getting into this game picked up Gier-Kamui. Went to the guardcrush wiki and watched some vids to get an idea of what to do, but still got a couple questions. I know her Fireball super combo's are the strongest combo's she has post sweep, but what is the strongest non-super combo she has post sweep?
Current one i'm doing is 1A1B1C 41236A 6HC IAD j.A > dj. A dj. C land j. A j. B > j. B j. C 421 C or A. Picked it out from the wiki haven't bothered to learn any other followups yet so just curious which i should concentrate on next. Liked it cuz it only cost 1 homing bar but after playing a bit i noticed i tended to have an excess of homing bar especially when i was in a dominating position since i didn't have to guard cancel often.
I know someone can homing out when i guard cancel into 421-A, but I was wondering if they could do it after the super flash of the 421-AB super? I know you can't "burst" after super flashes but I never bothered to check if you could homing cancel out of the setup. Don't have the game at the moment or i'd check myself, waiting for the English version to come out.
Like the Gier-super lockdown that gier offers as it allows you to keep up the pressure pretty easily and if they try to jump out of it you get to setup a 3B air-unblockable combo, but I was noticing the Time arcana seemed to be really useful just because the backdash allows you to get a B>C super or bigger combo whenever they fall for it. Hell backdashing out of an air attack into an air combo is hella sexy. So just curious if Gier had any other advantages I hadn't really noticed yet?
For her j.2C crossup is their a trick to get the right height? I always seem to airdash to low except v. Konoha to just IAD and do it. So i end up doing this lazy ass jump to cross up but it really isn't that ambiguous so curious if I just need to IAD higher or if their is a trick.
Also any tips vs. Liesolette? Doing probably the best off of my friends at the sec, but figure that'll change once they become more wise to some of my cheesy setups like airunblockable 3B's after a tech and stuff like that. Liesolette seems really scary with that loop she can do just about anywhere, when i was watching vids thought she could only do it in the corner but my friend was doing it midscreen and was taking like 40% or so of my life yeck.
Hoping to get decent by evo, so maybe can play some of you guys there if you go. Also if anyone who lives in Texas or another surrounding state wants to game I could see about arranging something with some of the OK guys if anyone's desperate for comp maybe after we get more oriented in the game. If it was to far though you'd probably have to also have some 3S or GGXXAC going to make it worth the drive.
Oh ya. Heartnana/Rob (bolding just so it might catch your eye) congrats for your win at FRXI really enjoyed the vids of Time Lilica. Those combo's were just sick. Also is that the same Sabin that played NGNT4 who played Kamui in the finals? Just curious.
HeartNana
04-04-2008, 11:49 AM
Seph - Thanks, Time Lilica combos take a lotta practice, but it's payed off, and i <3 my character and arcana, lol. And no, it's a different Sabin. The GNT4 guy is SabinX. Since it's a boss from final fantasy (as Sabin told me), i guess it can be a popular screenname.
As for your questions:
I know her Fireball super combo's are the strongest combo's she has post sweep, but what is the strongest non-super combo she has post sweep?
I don't know her strongest, as her damage overall isn't that great anymore anyways, but i would advise using a burst-safe one (or at least one that's difficult to punish with burst), which is the one arturo uses, which goes something like:
(2A 2B) 2C 41236A 6D 3B iad j.A double jump j.A j.C (land) j.A j.B double jump j.B j.C 421C 236236D (for gier)
I know someone can homing out when i guard cancel into 421-A, but I was wondering if they could do it after the super flash of the 421-AB super?
Yea, if someone 4Ds at the same time as the super (or after seeing the super flash) they wont get hit by it.
So just curious if Gier had any other advantages I hadn't really noticed yet? Keep in mind that with Time, you lose the ability to combo off of 2C, and if you can't do the extremely hard time combo, then you dont really get as much out the character IMO. With gier, even hitting with normal gier, Kamui has enough range to do a 5A 3B and slam them back down into gier mixups. After Kamui's throw, activating 236236D is rediculously good because it leaves her right next to the opponent with gier on top of them. Defensively, it's also strong because you can do BC gier and now if your opponent comes at you, you can let go of gier at will and possibly get a free combo.
For her j.2C crossup is their a trick to get the right height? I always seem to airdash to low except v. Konoha to just IAD and do it. So i end up doing this lazy ass jump to cross up but it really isn't that ambiguous so curious if I just need to IAD higher or if their is a trick. maybe a little higher would be ok. you can also just do a regular jump and j.2C. Keep in mind, if youre doing it in practice mode, you prolly won't hit your opponent because it really only works on opponents holding 4.
Also any tips vs. Liesolette?
Kill the doll. Use Kamui's: 2B, 41236X, gier, etc. Once you kill the doll, you can rush down liese really hard, and she really cant do anything about gier, really.
Also any tips vs. Liesolette? Doing probably the best off of my friends at the sec, but figure that'll change once they become more wise to some of my cheesy setups like airunblockable 3B's after a tech and stuff like that. Liesolette seems really scary with that loop she can do just about anywhere, when i was watching vids thought she could only do it in the corner but my friend was doing it midscreen and was taking like 40% or so of my life yeck.
Every time you knock down liese, hit her doll. If it's dead, guard it or move the fight to a part of the stage where it's offscreen. Liese literally has to be on top of the doll to get it back, and there's some lag after getting the doll back into the case where she's really vulnerable too. Liese can't do anything/attacking with the doll if she's in a state where she's hitstunned or knocked down. She CAN attack with the doll while she's blocking or right after she techs, so watch out for that.
Zazzarius
04-04-2008, 01:56 PM
good shit...SATSUI no HADOU FIONA FTW! GET ON YOUR KNEES! :pray::pray::pray:
bad fiona is scary :crybaby:
bad fiona is scary :crybaby:
scrub fionas actually are the worst to play against :/
Hey, I have a quick question. To drum up interest in the game's US release, I started an Arcana Heart thread over at the Penny-Arcade forums, since it's a pretty high traffic forum. There does seem to be some interest growing, which is good. One of the questions someone asked was whether Arcana Heart for the PS2 supported widescreen displays. I haven't been able to find any info on this however. I remember seeing videos of Arcana Heart on widescreen at arcades, but I've heard that doesn't necesarrily mean a game truly supports widescreen displays.
I'm assuming the US PS2 release will be exactly the same as the Japanese one aside from bugfixes and language translation, so does anyone know if the game supports widescreen?
Sephiroth73003
04-04-2008, 03:44 PM
Seph - Thanks, Time Lilica combos take a lotta practice, but it's payed off, and i <3 my character and arcana, lol. And no, it's a different Sabin. The GNT4 guy is SabinX. Since it's a boss from final fantasy (as Sabin told me), i guess it can be a popular screenname.
And more useful stuff.
lol thanks. Ya that combo you mentioned is the one i'm using at the sec. Deals solid dmg so I might just keep it at the sec as it's pretty simple for about 35-40%.
Just have to look more at the homing bar of my opponent for when i want to punish with a guardcancel 421-AB.
Killing the doll would make sense as he kept hitting me with it's shit on wake up which was annoying.
Really useful thanks.
The_Dragon
04-04-2008, 04:44 PM
Hey, I have a quick question. To drum up interest in the game's US release, I started an Arcana Heart thread over at the Penny-Arcade forums, since it's a pretty high traffic forum. There does seem to be some interest growing, which is good. One of the questions someone asked was whether Arcana Heart for the PS2 supported widescreen displays. I haven't been able to find any info on this however. I remember seeing videos of Arcana Heart on widescreen at arcades, but I've heard that doesn't necesarrily mean a game truly supports widescreen displays.
I'm assuming the US PS2 release will be exactly the same as the Japanese one aside from bugfixes and language translation, so does anyone know if the game supports widescreen.
The post you made on the Penny Arcade forums was both epic and amusing. Well done.
Superking
04-04-2008, 04:52 PM
Hey guys, someone vandalized our wiki, well just the front page anyway.
And aren't you guys going to update it with AH2 stuff? I already okayed it when Hyperhal asked (not that it matters with me really, since the wiki is more woof).
I am at work right now so I myself cannot reset it.
kenmastersX
04-04-2008, 04:54 PM
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=54264
The thread starting post is amazing.
Superking
04-04-2008, 05:07 PM
Hey, I have a quick question. To drum up interest in the game's US release, I started an Arcana Heart thread over at the Penny-Arcade forums, since it's a pretty high traffic forum. There does seem to be some interest growing, which is good. One of the questions someone asked was whether Arcana Heart for the PS2 supported widescreen displays. I haven't been able to find any info on this however. I remember seeing videos of Arcana Heart on widescreen at arcades, but I've heard that doesn't necesarrily mean a game truly supports widescreen displays.
I'm assuming the US PS2 release will be exactly the same as the Japanese one aside from bugfixes and language translation, so does anyone know if the game supports widescreen?
Direct them to Arcana HATE (http://guardcrush.net/forums)
Sabin
04-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Hey, I have a quick question. To drum up interest in the game's US release, I started an Arcana Heart thread over at the Penny-Arcade forums, since it's a pretty high traffic forum. There does seem to be some interest growing, which is good. One of the questions someone asked was whether Arcana Heart for the PS2 supported widescreen displays. I haven't been able to find any info on this however. I remember seeing videos of Arcana Heart on widescreen at arcades, but I've heard that doesn't necesarrily mean a game truly supports widescreen displays.
I'm assuming the US PS2 release will be exactly the same as the Japanese one aside from bugfixes and language translation, so does anyone know if the game supports widescreen?
It does not support widescreen.
better bust out those OG CRT's or you better have a scaler to fix lag on your HDTV, otherwise you wont be able to play this game at a optimal setting.
And also..props to Sephiroth for being at the reaedy with the gameplay questions, havent gotten those in a while. Boo to HeartNana for answering a Kamui question that I probably could have answered though. :rofl:
And yeah, all of those penny arcade guys should definetely be directed to Arcana Hate as well..
And yeah, I read the first post on Penny-Arcade about this game. Good job hyping shit up, soldier. :china:
Thanks for the answer and thanks for the compliments. I never expected to write 15 pages on Arcana Heart at 3:00 AM, but it just sort of happened. I'm glad it went over so well. I went and name dropped Guardcrush.net again with my most recent post, where I mentioned the matches from FRXI (They were pretty great. Good job to everyone.). Someone also copied my post over to NeoGAF, which is also a high-traffic forum, I hear. So yeah! I hope Arcana Heart does well. I would love to see AH2 get ported and released in the US.
Also, for those of you who saw my post, is Burn Knuckle really the right term for Terry's move? I've also seen Burning Knuckle; I'm not sure if one is wrong if there was a name change somewhere along the way. Burn Knuckle had a better ring to it, so that's what I went with. I don't think I've ever payed attention to what he said.
Spooty Whiteboy
04-04-2008, 07:16 PM
Also, for those of you who saw my post, is Burn Knuckle really the right term for Terry's move? I've also seen Burning Knuckle; I'm not sure if one is wrong if there was a name change somewhere along the way. Burn Knuckle had a better ring to it, so that's what I went with. I don't think I've ever payed attention to what he said.
I think it's Burst Knuckle actually.
Gasaraki
04-04-2008, 09:28 PM
no it's BURN KNUCKLE! I'm beyond positive
Bill307
04-05-2008, 12:34 AM
Hey, I have a quick question. To drum up interest in the game's US release, I started an Arcana Heart thread over at the Penny-Arcade forums, since it's a pretty high traffic forum. There does seem to be some interest growing, which is good. One of the questions someone asked was whether Arcana Heart for the PS2 supported widescreen displays. I haven't been able to find any info on this however. I remember seeing videos of Arcana Heart on widescreen at arcades, but I've heard that doesn't necesarrily mean a game truly supports widescreen displays.
I'm assuming the US PS2 release will be exactly the same as the Japanese one aside from bugfixes and language translation, so does anyone know if the game supports widescreen?
Dude... that post is INCREDIBLE! It completely blows away any post I've ever made to introduce people to AH! In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen such an excellent introduction to a game. Seriously.
From now on, the next time I decide to introduce someone to AH, the first thing I'm going to do is direct them to that post.
I laughed at a bunch of spots, including the BURN KNUCKLES ^^. Almost all of the gameplay notes are accurate, too. :tup:
Simply marvelous. :pray:
Bill307
04-05-2008, 01:38 AM
Also any tips vs. Liesolette? Doing probably the best off of my friends at the sec, but figure that'll change once they become more wise to some of my cheesy setups like airunblockable 3B's after a tech and stuff like that. Liesolette seems really scary with that loop she can do just about anywhere, when i was watching vids thought she could only do it in the corner but my friend was doing it midscreen and was taking like 40% or so of my life yeck.
Play like ASA ^^.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu1HX5E0VtA
Note the really ambiguous crossups he does when Liese gets up from a throw or super. Learning the spacing and timing for that should pay off nicely. Also, like Heartnana said, go for the doll. 41236C seems to work really well for this purpose.
HeartNana
04-05-2008, 04:29 AM
And also..props to Sephiroth for being at the reaedy with the gameplay questions, havent gotten those in a while. Boo to HeartNana for answering a Kamui question that I probably could have answered though. :rofl:
I thought you were done with arcana forever, mr "my ah scene sucks, so i got emo" :annoy: :razzy:
Nastrodamus
04-05-2008, 08:07 AM
So Anyone Gonna Be At Ctf Monday... Cuse Im Calling Off Work For Ctf Bitches.... Ah2!!!!
Fiona 4C= GET THE FUCK OUT MY FACE- Three6mafia
Zazzarius
04-05-2008, 12:46 PM
scrub fionas actually are the worst to play against :/
add me to that group. just preordered a copy at my local gamestop today.
pick up on wednesday :bgrin:
pbj_mixxa
04-05-2008, 01:50 PM
So Anyone Gonna Be At Ctf Monday... Cuse Im Calling Off Work For Ctf Bitches.... Ah2!!!!
Fiona 4C= GET THE FUCK OUT MY FACE- Three6mafia
Wrong thread!
Sephiroth73003
04-06-2008, 12:50 PM
Play like ASA ^^.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu1HX5E0VtA
Note the really ambiguous crossups he does when Liese gets up from a throw or super. Learning the spacing and timing for that should pay off nicely. Also, like Heartnana said, go for the doll. 41236C seems to work really well for this purpose.
Lol in that vid the only ambiguous crossups are the ones when he does the lazy ass jump. All the IAD's really telegraph imo. Liked how he played so safely (playing around the burst), but he dropped to many opportunities to win. Solid vid though ... still annoyed they removed the SBO vids from youtube.
The Grey Area
04-06-2008, 01:03 PM
I saw some people playing at FRXI. Were they all out of towners? I have already payed for it and will pick it up this week. I want someone to play with.
DietSoap
04-06-2008, 06:47 PM
IGN review
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/864/864652p1.html
It scored pretty well. Maybe this might get 20 more people to buy it. :rofl:
Lvl.3
04-06-2008, 07:30 PM
Atlus is bringing this game to the US. I have a feeling the game is gonna end up being a rare find (US ver).
Gasaraki
04-06-2008, 09:22 PM
2 DAYS!!! Looking forward to it.
Gorehound
04-06-2008, 09:54 PM
I'm hoping Gamecrazy will have my copy tomorrow so I can pick it up :tup:
THE ANSWER
04-07-2008, 10:21 AM
is this US version the one they used at SBO?
kenmastersX
04-07-2008, 10:47 AM
is this US version the one they used at SBO?
The one they used last year, yeah. This year it'll be part 2.
Hyperhal
04-07-2008, 11:11 AM
is this US version the one they used at SBO?
The Answer considering Arcana?
:encore:
EDIT: Lol, sup Stone
Zazzarius
04-07-2008, 11:38 AM
Atlus is bringing this game to the US. I have a feeling the game is gonna end up being a rare find (US ver).
of course. that's why i preordered that shit down.
you ALWAYS gotta preorder atlus stuff
THE ANSWER
04-07-2008, 01:30 PM
The Answer considering Arcana?
:encore:
EDIT: Lol, sup Stone
Well I was playing it the other day and it looks fun, but I didn't understand what was going on (maybe cause those guys didn't give me a chance to learn the system) so I thought if I have it at home I might make up my mind about it, but if AH2 is already out isn't this going to be a waist of time? And is this going to be like GG with a new version every 6 months? Cause in that case I'm out.
AzN_Skater
04-07-2008, 01:35 PM
Well I was playing it the other day and it looks fun, but I didn't understand what was going on (maybe cause those guys didn't give me a chance to learn the system) so I thought if I have it at home I might make up my mind about it, but if AH2 is already out isn't this going to be a waist of time? And is this going to be like GG with a new version every 6 months? Cause in that case I'm out.
It's good to learn the system because a lot of the skills will carry over to AH2 (stuff like homing guage management, clashs, meter management, etc etc).
PozerWolf
04-07-2008, 02:04 PM
And is this going to be like GG with a new version every 6 months? Cause in that case I'm out.
GG had a new version every 6 months?
WHERE WAS I WHEN THIS HAPPENED?!?!?! :crybaby:
Zazzarius
04-07-2008, 02:19 PM
GG had a new version every 6 months?
WHERE WAS I WHEN THIS HAPPENED?!?!?! :crybaby:
i wish so too. AC is currently the main GG now and if you're talking about AC+, its unneeded for tourney play as it has only single-player goodies
but that's for another thread
Dingo
04-07-2008, 07:35 PM
First post in the Arcana Heart thread, but I've been looking forward to trying this game out for a while. I have it pre-ordered at GameStop and cannot wait to give this a go. Just dropped in to say what's up though and spread the hype :tup:.
Master Chibi
04-07-2008, 07:43 PM
Well I was playing it the other day and it looks fun, but I didn't understand what was going on (maybe cause those guys didn't give me a chance to learn the system) so I thought if I have it at home I might make up my mind about it, but if AH2 is already out isn't this going to be a waist of time? And is this going to be like GG with a new version every 6 months? Cause in that case I'm out.
And yet this is coming from the KoF player :rofl:.
Just play the game, it'll help you out plenty (trust me) to fall into AH2 whenever it gets released far down the road.
THE ANSWER
04-07-2008, 08:09 PM
ok I'll try it out. Aint they having a tourney for this at MWC?
Sabin
04-07-2008, 08:43 PM
Well I was playing it the other day and it looks fun, but I didn't understand what was going on (maybe cause those guys didn't give me a chance to learn the system) so I thought if I have it at home I might make up my mind about it, but if AH2 is already out isn't this going to be a waist of time? And is this going to be like GG with a new version every 6 months? Cause in that case I'm out.
nah it aint like that at all
also the skills you learn from AH1 will carry over in ah2 pretty easily so you dont have to worry about that. matchups are pretty similar.
and yeah theres a tourney going on for this at mwc too
Master Chibi
04-07-2008, 08:46 PM
AH2 is a walk in the park once you have the basics down in AH1. Give it a go at MWC, and if Spooky is going to do it or not (I'm not sure at this point) he might bring AH2 with him to MWC too, so who knows.
Mizuki
04-07-2008, 09:35 PM
ok I'll try it out. Aint they having a tourney for this at MWC?
Hey, we can play if I ever make it to SoCal again.
PaRt2
04-08-2008, 08:29 AM
Just called my Gamestop today, they're not getting AH in untill tomorrow. :bluu:
Eh, knew that was gonna happen.
Tiggy
04-08-2008, 08:44 AM
Just called my Gamestop today, they're not getting AH in untill tomorrow. :bluu:
Eh, knew that was gonna happen.
:rofl: You too?
Sp00ky
04-08-2008, 09:35 AM
gamestop sucks donkey dick
both the local game stores near me have it in but the gamestop on the same block doesnt.
Gorehound
04-08-2008, 09:40 AM
Just called my Gamestop today, they're not getting AH in untill tomorrow. :bluu:
Eh, knew that was gonna happen.
I got the same response at Gamecrazy!
BASTARDS!!!
PaRt2
04-08-2008, 09:47 AM
Gamestop <3's the DonkeyDick!
None of the Gamestops around here have it. When I called, they played the infamous saying:
"Well, Today is the day it ships. We should recieve it sometime tomorrow afternoon".
Eh, I had nothing to do during the day so I kinda was looking forward to it. Tomorrow, I don't know if I'll even have time to pick it up. :bluu:
HARD BREAD
04-08-2008, 09:56 AM
Gamestop <3's the DonkeyDick!
None of the Gamestops around here have it. When I called, they played the infamous saying:
"Well, Today is the day it ships. We should recieve it sometime tomorrow afternoon".
Eh, I had nothing to do during the day so I kinda was looking forward to it. Tomorrow, I don't know if I'll even have time to pick it up. :bluu:
gamestop does this all the time...i was also planning to get the game 2day...i have class pretty much all day tomorrow :lame:
Geese Pants
04-08-2008, 09:57 AM
Amazon that shit.........Lamestop has let me down too many times.
pbj_mixxa
04-08-2008, 11:42 AM
HAHAHA... you losers actually thought it was going to be out today! Anyone in the know with gamestop knows import games, as well as certain others, are NEVER in stock on the release date.
I planned this shit in advance!
mrshmearo
04-08-2008, 12:00 PM
HAHAHA... you losers actually thought it was going to be out today! Anyone in the know with gamestop knows import games, as well as certain others, are NEVER in stock on the release date.
I planned this shit in advance!
Your cool:confused: haha
I WANT THIS!
Zazzarius
04-08-2008, 01:22 PM
when i preordered that shit, they told me rather specifically that it would be there wednesday
so one more day ain't a big deal
yetighettoslang
04-08-2008, 01:38 PM
everyone sayin its gonna be a limited release blah blah atlus.....sooooo i went and reserved it 2day. Tiggy im comin for you after i get my practice in son! Hopefully well finally get a descent arcana match in sometime. Im hyped none the less:woot:
Gorehound
04-08-2008, 01:41 PM
Your cool:confused: haha
I WANT THIS!
Yeah, its all good!
I played it at the arcade and bought the import version last year, so its not like I'm missing out on anything new!
Sephiroth73003
04-08-2008, 03:00 PM
lol this is true for most games. The date on websites and the like is rarely the release date, but rather the "ship date." If you go and look at gamespot.com for example take any date they have and add a day and you'll have the release date.
Atomic #
04-08-2008, 05:16 PM
No luck here either... I had to Pre-order... The thing is... instead of Wednesday, they said it was pushed back to Friday due to "production problems"
in other words, they didn't even know it came out yet and mass ordered it or something....
Friday is EVIL FIONA DAY
Nokato
04-08-2008, 05:19 PM
Local stores said they'd have it Thursday...not sure how truthful that is.
mrshmearo
04-08-2008, 05:32 PM
Local Gamestop said Wednesday. Another store around here was suppose to get it in today but said probably tomorrow. Hopefully before Friday. Cheers to Shin Fiona!
Master Chibi
04-08-2008, 05:46 PM
HAHAHA... you losers actually thought it was going to be out today! Anyone in the know with gamestop knows import games, as well as certain others, are NEVER in stock on the release date.
I planned this shit in advance!
You didn't plan shit smartass.
The game actually got delayed, so it's likely not going to be in stores until Friday.
http://kotaku.com/377576/arcana-heart-delayed-slightly
Also, here's a positive review from Kotaku~
http://kotaku.com/377222/arcana-heart-review-fatal-fists-of-female-fury
Sabin
04-08-2008, 05:49 PM
You didn't plan shit.
The game actually got delayed, so it's likely not going to be in stores until Friday.
http://kotaku.com/377576/arcana-heart-delayed-slightly
OOOOOOOOOOOO BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN :rofl:
Zazzarius
04-08-2008, 06:00 PM
The game actually got delayed, so it's likely not going to be in stores until Friday.
http://kotaku.com/377576/arcana-heart-delayed-slightly
aww i wanted my fightin' bubz now :sad:
Atomic #
04-08-2008, 06:00 PM
^^^ Damn so the Gamestop guy was telling the truth... Then again, anyone who works with a freaking Suzumiya Arm band probably has some knowledge on hard to find games popular in Japan....
Only problem is: People in Vegas probably won't like the game so there's no competition!!!!
Argh, The only thing I see are people playing Brawl without items.... about as exciting as playing the Singapore version of Monopoly (http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/monopoly-se.jpg)
Saotome Kaneda
04-08-2008, 06:28 PM
this thread is awesome, kinda like a............
BURN KNUCKLE
.......
sorry
Atomic #
04-08-2008, 06:37 PM
aww i wanted my fightin' bubz now :sad:
Chris Hansen probably delayed the shipment and is writing all our names now...:rofl:
me: Hello? Anyone in the store? I came to pick up Arcana Heart....
Chris: Why don't you take a seat over there....?
me: I meant... I came to pick up.... uh....the new Mortal Kombat ga... argh damnit I can't do it... just send me to jail...
Superking
04-08-2008, 06:42 PM
this thread is awesome, kinda like a............
BURN KNUCKLE
.......
sorry
Where's my Nina infinite Saotome. :shakes fist:
/How you harassed omni for that $100 he owed you
The Grey Area
04-08-2008, 06:45 PM
Oh well. I can wait a few more days while enjoying NGBC and Alpha 3. I do want the game though.
I was wondering, for the Atlus employee, what would keep a game like this from having online support? It would be awsome for those of us in places that only play Marvel and Tekken.
pbj_mixxa
04-08-2008, 07:01 PM
EDIT: Nah... that post wasn't going anywhere. Ignore this post for now!
Ash2k4
04-08-2008, 07:23 PM
Just went to gamestop and they told me the same thing preordeered so kof xi and ngbc for now.
Bob Poundmax
04-08-2008, 07:30 PM
so the game being delayed means I still have time to preorder then...
Ash2k4
04-08-2008, 07:32 PM
so the game being delayed means I still have time to preorder then... Yeh a day or two l think they told me it should be in tommorow.:lovin:
asianxcore
04-08-2008, 08:08 PM
Has anyone gotten the automated call from EB/Gamestop to pick up their pre-order?
Probably going to pick up my pre-ordered copy after work.
animefanzmg
04-08-2008, 08:09 PM
used my 10$ off google checkout at buy.com for it today. 18 bucks aint a bad deal
Tiggy
04-08-2008, 09:01 PM
everyone sayin its gonna be a limited release blah blah atlus.....sooooo i went and reserved it 2day. Tiggy im comin for you after i get my practice in son! Hopefully well finally get a descent arcana match in sometime. Im hyped none the less:woot:
I'm gettin' called out?!? This is unexpected.....unfortunately, I still need more training myself, seeing as I'm getting stomped by Mei-Fang and Kamui by my friends who FINALLY decided to take the game seriously.
Freaking shipping delays:mad: Oh well....I'll be too busy to think about Arcana tomorrow anyhow.
The board is buzzing with new people! I'm excited to say the least. I hope the interest in AH grows even more once people actually get their hands on the game.
Gasaraki
04-08-2008, 09:14 PM
stupid delay, tomorrow or friday is too long to wait!
Dingo
04-08-2008, 09:18 PM
The delay really irks me considering I was going to be able to pick the game up after work. I guess a day or two isn't that bad to wait though; could always be worse.
katraqueyous
04-09-2008, 07:31 AM
Has anyone gotten the automated call from EB/Gamestop to pick up their pre-order?
I haven't received a call from them yet. Are the calls usually from the Gamestop area you ordered from, or is it an 800 number?
Nokato
04-09-2008, 07:36 AM
Well, Friday is perfect for me--since I get off early around 3, so I can just conveniently pick it up then. I know it's bad but I like how Kamui plays so more than likely I'd play that character.
GrappleRific
04-09-2008, 08:15 AM
Delay.... ug, I had today off. No such luxury Friday.
Piledriving globule for me.
Nokato
04-09-2008, 08:17 AM
Delay.... ug, I had today off. No such luxury Friday.
Piledriving globule for me.
That grab takes hella damage. But yeah, I'll pick it up on Friday. I just wish that cover wasn't so...sugary. Anyhoo, Friday isn't that far away. IF SBX got delayed like that I'd be apeshit lol, not really but I'm stoked for that game.
Nonetheless, girly rush down will happen on Friday.
PaRt2
04-09-2008, 08:18 AM
I hope I can get it either today or tomorrow because Friday would suck for me. After work on Friday, I'm picking up a buddy from the train and we're heading up to the Iowa tourney.
DAMNIT! I know, I'm impatient! :mad: Not only that, If I don't pick it up within the 2 days it's in the store, (sometimes) they sell it to someone else. I had friend's who worked there and their Manager demanded that they sell it to someone if they asked for it.
I recently got NGBC and KOFXI so I'm having fun playing those in the meantime.
I was kinda suprised but NGBC is pretty damn fun.
Bardtard
04-09-2008, 09:10 AM
First post here whoo. After playing this game in Chinatown Fair and then playing part 2 and totally sucking up the machine with Petra ( ;_; ) last weekend, I feel like those addicts in major withdrawal. This delay is killing me simply cause I wanna try to play without getting the uber smackdown by the local experts (though I have to admit, they did try to teach me some moves and gave me a courtesy round :P). I even ordered an arcade stick for this lol.
Sabin
04-09-2008, 09:13 AM
This thread lately... mad active. Why so serious guys :looney:
but does it mean that yall will stick around, and we'll actually have some decent tourneys going for this again? I really do hope so...
THE ANSWER
04-09-2008, 10:07 AM
where can I find the tier list?
AzN_Skater
04-09-2008, 10:27 AM
So what's the deal? Have you guys seen it in stores yet? I highly doubt my EB games will be getting it any time soon. I preordered KOFXI and it took them 3 weeks to get any in =/. So for this game, it will probably take even longer. What a buncha clowns.
Sabin
04-09-2008, 10:30 AM
where can I find the tier list?
Arcadia AHF Ranks Feb '08
S: Lieselotte
A: Kamui, Lilica, Heart, Mei-Fang
B: Saki, Konoha, Maori
C: Kira, Yoriko
D: Fiona
Humbag
04-09-2008, 10:33 AM
Yay at least mah Robotittays is good!
C for Kira :(
I need this US version finally haha.
Dingo
04-09-2008, 10:40 AM
From what I've been hearing there was a delay in Atlus getting the game shipped to GameStop/EB Game's distribution center which is causing all of this. However, if they pull what they did with KoF XI and NGBC (getting the games about a month after they were released) I'm just going to order from Amazon.
i hope some of you pick maori
Were you drunk last night, orka?
Were you drunk last night, orka?
i definitely was... i ate a huge bag of chex mix and now i can't taste anything
mrshmearo
04-09-2008, 11:39 AM
Friday also for me, can't wait!
Nokato
04-09-2008, 11:45 AM
This thread lately... mad active. Why so serious guys :looney:
but does it mean that yall will stick around, and we'll actually have some decent tourneys going for this again? I really do hope so...
That might be true. I'm always on the verge of not playing games seriously and then something comes out I like and shit. Sadly, HNK dropped off here..but with CVS2 on its way out I gotta play something. I've been watching some recent tourney vids and it looks promising, so if I can pick it up I'll see what its about. Long time no see, lol.
PaRt2
04-09-2008, 11:52 AM
but does it mean that yall will stick around, and we'll actually have some decent tourneys going for this again? I really do hope so...
I'll try! :wgrin: I live in the right place for it.
AzN_Skater
04-09-2008, 11:58 AM
I just called my EB games. They have 'no set date' on when they will be receiving this. What the fuck. Time to Amazon.COM my shit, even though they probably won't ship to Canada. This is such total bullshit.
Gorehound
04-09-2008, 12:05 PM
i hope some of you pick maori
Been picking her since it came out in the arcade!
Gotta support Shrine Boobage!
I'm going to call Gamecrazy to check if it came today!
*Onslaught*
04-09-2008, 12:08 PM
Atlus delayed the shipment to the 10th fyi.
Nokato
04-09-2008, 12:11 PM
I just called my EB games. They have 'no set date' on when they will be receiving this. What the fuck. Time to Amazon.COM my shit, even though they probably won't ship to Canada. This is such total bullshit.
The same thing happened to me with KOFXII, except the store lied and said they would have it in the store only to have me call to find out it could be purchased ONLINE EXCLUSIVELY. So I hit up Amazon.com and got it that way. If its not in stores Friday, I'd probably do the same thing.
Been picking her since it came out in the arcade!
Gotta support Shrine Boobage!
I'm going to call Gamecrazy to check if it came today!
there's a cab in cali?
anyway... miko bubz rule :tup:
FSgamer
04-09-2008, 02:24 PM
http://www.superduperclub.net/ps2-atl-53027.html
yetighettoslang
04-09-2008, 02:55 PM
this is a bunch of bulloney! i paid for it, i need my crack. tiggy, i mean no harm with low tier arcana charcters (maybe) but we must play sometime. Ive watched alot of match vids tho, seems like every character can kick some loli ass. but what do i kno about this wonderful pedo fighting game. as long as oddjob is not a playable character
SlightlyMechanical
04-09-2008, 04:21 PM
I just got this from Amazon.
Order Placed: March 15, 2008
Delayed items--your approval required
Items Ordered Approve
Arcana Heart
Updated Delivery Estimate: May 1, 2008 - May 16, 2008
Your approval required by: May 9, 2008
We will still try to dispatch the above item(s) by the approval required by date(s). If this is not possible, and we have not received your approval for the delay by the date(s) listed above, we will cancel this part of your order.
Say it ain't so....
plasmakill
04-09-2008, 05:07 PM
Yeah this sucks, I ordered mine this morning with express shipping so I would get it by the weekend. The place I ordered from (estarland) is saying the same thing delayed till 4/14, this morning it said usually ships in 24 hrs lol dam liars.
Want to finally place this game dammit!
Gorehound
04-09-2008, 05:15 PM
there's a cab in cali?
anyway... miko bubz rule :tup:
Oh yeah, this place called Arcade Infinity in So Cal which only has Japanese Arcade Games and known for SNK, 3s, and random fighter comp had the cab three weeks after its release, same with HnK.
I don't know if they are going to get an AH2 cab though since the first one didn't do so well:sad:
But who knows, the owner suprised us before with surprise fighters :tup:
But she was my first character I wanted to pick when I played it.
asianxcore
04-09-2008, 06:27 PM
Bummer. Oh well, I get paid Friday.
THE ANSWER
04-09-2008, 07:20 PM
So I went to 2 Gamestops and they gave me two different stories, so I just downloaded the game and I'll buy it when ever it comes out.
Master Chibi
04-09-2008, 07:24 PM
The game actually got delayed, so it's likely not going to be in stores until Friday.
http://kotaku.com/377576/arcana-heart-delayed-slightly
Please learn to read people.
Alzarath
04-09-2008, 07:31 PM
Reading? On MY intarnutz?!
GTFO!
Dingo
04-09-2008, 07:40 PM
The GameStop near me said they received an update on it from their corporate office saying there were just some manufacturing delays and the game is expected to arrive Friday. Just letting everyone who may still be in the dark on this know what I've heard.
Master Chibi
04-09-2008, 07:52 PM
The GameStop near me said they received an update on it from their corporate office saying there were just some manufacturing delays and the game is expected to arrive Friday. Just letting everyone who may still be in the dark on this know what I've heard.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5013269&postcount=5918
YOSSSSSSHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA
*runs right the fuck off a cliff to his death*
Dingo
04-09-2008, 07:57 PM
I was just sharing my info. since I know people are still asking about it. Sorry.
SlightlyMechanical
04-09-2008, 08:49 PM
Please learn to read people.
I knew it was delayed, I was referring to the May 1-16th delivery estimate part of my post. I didn't want it to be KOF XI/NGBC allover again. Sorry if i'm making something out of nothing. :wonder:
Master Chibi
04-09-2008, 08:53 PM
Well when it comes out we can have a big campfire and hold hands or some shit.
Saotome Kaneda
04-09-2008, 09:17 PM
C for Kira :(
she's still better than yoriko
PaRt2
04-09-2008, 10:46 PM
Haha! Gamestop keeps pushing the day back on their website and my GameStop is clueless to why it isn't there. I'm going with Chibi's reasoning.
TTZ231
04-10-2008, 02:04 AM
Its not Gamestop's fault, every outlet is getting it late.
But I'm taking my pre-orders off though tomorrow, just like I did when GTA was moved to March from October 17, BEFORE this April shit.
I want some shit to play NOW dammit. If this comes out too close to GTA then fuck this game period, for real.
Sephiroth73003
04-10-2008, 03:02 AM
I'm creeped out ... i got a call yesterday from the gamestop machine saying it was going to be in stores today ...
TTZ231
04-10-2008, 03:56 AM
I'm creeped out ... i got a call yesterday from the gamestop machine saying it was going to be in stores today ...
friday at the EARLIEST.
It wasnt even in my shipping list to arrive today, when I checked yesterday. So yeah screw that game.
purifyweirdsoul
04-10-2008, 05:57 AM
The Atlus forums are horrible, but mad people on gamefaqs are getting hype. I've noticed ads for this game up on there/gamestop lately too with links to a trailer. It's already gotten some pretty damn positive American press by IGN's review...even though very few of us (including me) ever pay much attention to review sites, a lot of people do.
Nokato
04-10-2008, 05:59 AM
Ok, so....when is the game coming out, because if it doesn't come out friday--I'm just gonna amazon the game or not care. This is really stupid.
Edit: I just found out that SBX is on pre-order import. If Arcana is not out by Friday--I'm pre-ordering SBX.
i'm glad to see that this game is getting positive press. :wgrin:
as of now, the only regions with high concentration of players are east coast (new york, philly), texas and chicago... i hope this american release will be a opportunity for something great.
to newcomers: arcana heart is pretty much considered as the next big thing in 2d fighting games in japan (although the buzz has become a bit subdued in recent months due to stuff like sf4 and blazblue). also, don't be discouraged by the fact that ah2 is already in the arcades. the basic system is still in tact, and you can learn whole a lot for about half the cast in the first arcana heart. think of it as a transition from gggxx/ to ggxxac... minus the uber broken stuff.
Mr.Biscuits
04-10-2008, 07:21 AM
^ Thank you for the heads up. I was wondering about that.
Anyone have the game yet?
Return of Shiki
04-10-2008, 07:54 AM
The Atlus forums are horrible, but mad people on gamefaqs are getting hype.
Yeah, and for all of the worst reasons...
Bardtard
04-10-2008, 08:35 AM
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=69196
Hey look guys, it says usually ships in 24 hours now. Yesterday it had the preorder date still, hopefully this means that it's definitely in stores tomorrow. I checked a few places in Manhattan too and they all say Friday or today. Let's hope they're right, I'm wasting away over here while doodling Arcana characters on a sticky pad lol (over-dramatization).
Kromo
04-10-2008, 09:01 AM
I hope this game does well so we can see more japanese fighters on this side of the pond...Melty blood and fist of the north star, Im looking at you. Budget ps2 titles are the way to go.
FallingEdge
04-10-2008, 09:12 AM
the GF board for AH is prolly one of the worst things I have ever seen.
I really hope they have this game at anime conventions so I can show up and just destroy the shit out of everyone.
OmegaDL50
04-10-2008, 12:28 PM
I just paid my reservation in full, I had some change I managed to scrounge up.
I'll expect to be enjoying this game with the rest of you gents and ladies tomorrow.
However my reasons for getting into this game are primarily a method for me to take the practice home, since University Pinball around my way as an Arcana Heart Machine. When I'm not at the Arcade with the chance to get into competition I can brush up on my skill at home in comfort on my PS2.
well, i hope y'all ordering the american version will get your copies soon. i used to be a non-believer too, but this quickly became my favorite fighting game last year.
yetighettoslang
04-10-2008, 05:04 PM
lamestop just left me a message, "arcana hype will be in tommorow friday january 16th 1943 kai!" soooo tommorow it is!! maybe.....
katraqueyous
04-10-2008, 06:06 PM
lamestop just left me a message, "arcana hype will be in tommorow friday january 16th 1943 kai!" soooo tommorow it is!! maybe.....
They told me tomorrow afternoon.
Gasaraki
04-10-2008, 07:44 PM
Everyone has said tomorrow, and they(gamestop) said it was coming on friday on tuesday. So yeah, it's tomorrow
Tiggy
04-10-2008, 08:47 PM
well, i hope y'all ordering the american version will get your copies soon. i used to be a non-believer too, but this quickly became my favorite fighting game last year.
Since when did you not believe in the miko bubz?
Since when did you not believe in the miko bubz?
dunno... i dun have miko fetish, really. i wanted to play kamui at first, but everybody was playing her so i said fuck it. then i was gonna pick heart but a lot of people were playing her too, and i typically don't play standard characters.
so i said to myself: "hmmm a 14-year old with oversized bubz, i will play maori!"
in arcana heart 3, i hope they will bring back the bbc loop, plus new enhanced jiggle animation to go with it. the crowd will be going hyphy (shaking dem dreads and dancing on top of chariots turning tight ones :rofl:). i would be practice dem combos allll day long.
Gorehound
04-10-2008, 09:25 PM
You can't counter Maori's beeyoobs:wink:
Tiggy
04-10-2008, 09:31 PM
dunno... i dun have miko fetish, really. i wanted to play kamui at first, but everybody was playing her so i said fuck it. then i was gonna pick heart but a lot of people were playing her too, and i typically don't play standard characters.
so i said to myself: "hmmm a 14-year old with oversized bubz, i will play maori!"
in arcana heart 3, i hope they will bring back the bbc loop, plus new enhanced jiggle animation to go with it. the crowd will be going hyphy (shaking dem dreads and dancing on top of chariots turning tight ones :rofl:). i would be practice dem combos allll day long.
:rofl: DAY ONE KAMUI. And now DAY ONE HEART, with horrible dropped IAD combos. And now AH3?!?
Lilica is turning into a surprisingly popular character. I can't wait for people to start hitting their sticks/themselves once they realize how hard she is...much like I have done many times already:bgrin: I swear, I'm one 2C away from being able to do Time Lilica's standard Time combo.....:sad: I'm afraid of trying the variants right now. Doing 3HC from 236A~c into successful 5B is hella hard, but it's fun trying.
On a side note, I tried doing pents with Yoriko in training mode for like 10 minutes the other day, then gave up. Even having the notations in front of me didn't help:shake: I didn't realize that you had to do it so fast!
i cant decide which has worse posts sf4 forum or this thread
On a side note, I tried doing pents with Yoriko in training mode for like 10 minutes the other day, then gave up. Even having the notations in front of me didn't help I didn't realize that you had to do it so fast!
do em upside down those are the cool ones
Mizuki
04-10-2008, 09:34 PM
Get dat AH! I am tommorow, If I find enough people in NorCal I'll start holding gatherings every other week somewhere. PM Me if interested!
HeartNana
04-10-2008, 09:36 PM
:rofl: DAY ONE KAMUI. And now DAY ONE HEART, with horrible dropped IAD combos. And now AH3?!?
Lilica is turning into a surprisingly popular character. I can't wait for people to start hitting their sticks/themselves once they realize how hard she is...much like I have done many times already:bgrin: I swear, I'm one 2C away from being able to do Time Lilica's standard Time combo.....:sad: I'm afraid of trying the variants right now. Doing 3HC from 236A~c into successful 5B is hella hard, but it's fun trying.
On a side note, I tried doing pents with Yoriko in training mode for like 10 minutes the other day, then gave up. Even having the notations in front of me didn't help:shake: I didn't realize that you had to do it so fast!
1) Delay your flash steps more to get the 2C to hit
2) Wait a bit after the heel kick hits to 3HC
3) Youre probably trying to do pent to fast. Concentrate on accuracy, not speed.
Tiggy
04-10-2008, 10:13 PM
i cant decide which has worse posts sf4 forum or this thread
do em upside down those are the cool ones
:rofl: I'm flattered....I think....
Get dat AH! I am tommorow, If I find enough people in NorCal I'll start holding gatherings every other week somewhere. PM Me if interested!
I'll be picking up my copy on my way to work. If I'm brave enough, I'll play a little bit on my lunch break if I bother bringing my PS2.
1) Delay your flash steps more to get the 2C to hit
2) Wait a bit after the heel kick hits to 3HC
3) Youre probably trying to do pent to fast. Concentrate on accuracy, not speed.
1)Delay as in 6B? Or just delay the speed of the inputs? If it's either of those two(or a combination of both), I'll just figure out through more practice.
2)That's what I figured. I just couldn't seem to do it, even after reading the wiki and watching videos.
3)Ah, I was wrong about the speed thing. Thanks:lovin:
BTW Rob, I read your blog. In an attempt not to derail the forum, I'll just say congrats and have mucho fun!
HeartNana
04-11-2008, 12:22 AM
1. Well, you know how its either 1-1-4 or 1-5, well, for the 4 or the 5, i always make the 2nd kick a 6B and not a 5B. If i need to get closer or can delay more, i tend to make the third one 6B also, but i can usually get away with 5B FS 6B FS 5B FS 5B 2C. If you're gonna do 1-5, you NEED to make the second one 6B at LEAST, if the third one is 6B also, that can't hurt. Obviously, because you can use 6B, at the same spots you can delay a 5B for ease, but you cant delay the last one, you don't have to make it super fast, but you cant wait for them to fall nearly as far as they fall with the 2nd and third hits.
2) Also note that the further away you hit them with heel kick, the easier. If you watch my vids and i hit with a time ball mid screen, i tend to wait a little, and then do a heel kick cause it's easier to HC3. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y3RlgDnPMrA at about 7:10, I wait a little, then do the heel kick, though he was too far away for me to do a 5B running A 5B loop to bring him to the coner, so i should have heel kicked after the 5B, but yeah, thats how to hit the 5B, which is the important one cause no matter what, if you hit a 5B, you can hit a heel kick pretty much, lol)
And on the side note, thanks. :D
Sephiroth73003
04-11-2008, 05:27 AM
Picking up my copy today :woot: Even got the day off from work so going to learn my Heart IAD combo's. Messed around with them for like 5 min. the other day and kept doing about 2 loops but than they were always to high to be juggled. Figure i just need to slow one part down, just don't know which. Also how many loops is practical to do? Friend said 3-4 but now that my 2007 SBO vids are gone I don't have any really good heart vids to reference (that i can find at least).
Local peeps always get mad cuz I fall for the "easy-mode" characters. Isn't my fault that i like swords and shoto's.
AH2 is due what October? Looks fun can't wait.
pbj_mixxa
04-11-2008, 05:41 AM
Picking up my copy today :woot: Even got the day off from work so going to learn my Heart IAD combo's. Messed around with them for like 5 min. the other day and kept doing about 2 loops but than they were always to high to be juggled. Figure i just need to slow one part down, just don't know which. Also how many loops is practical to do? Friend said 3-4 but now that my 2007 SBO vids are gone I don't have any really good heart vids to reference (that i can find at least).
Depending on how you set up your IAD loops, 3 reps is the most you can get per homing stock.
Also, pre-AH2, there were A LOT of Heart vids. Check http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bigooooooohh (I warn you... there's A LOT of vids to search through!)
OmegaDL50
04-11-2008, 05:41 AM
Hmm which character to start with first, The Disgaea fan in me says go with Lilica since she reminds me of Etna but she seems to require effort to really do well with, and then there is characters like Maori that seem to produce all kinds of mind games with her summons / friends, to disrupt the opponents strategy by flooding the screen with attacks that come from nearly everywhere at once.
I guess I'm going to have to put in a solid several hours in training mode to get a feel for the cast and determine who I'll focus using to bring to University Pinball to compete.
Overall, I hope to get good, especially early with it's release, especially if this game picks up with the flood of new players getting into the game today / tomorrow when they pick up their copies.
Sephiroth73003
04-11-2008, 05:45 AM
Thanks pbj. Gonna have to subscribe to this person as my silly english words don't get these kind of vids to show up in the search. :woot:
Really thanks man.
I'm just starting out and I find Kamui and Heart to be all around very easy characters with solid movesets and not nearly as technical as lets say Liesolette or Lilica. Plus their combo's are hella easy.
dragonJAB
04-11-2008, 06:00 AM
I can play this and arcana heart 2 in my local arcade.
Nokato
04-11-2008, 06:09 AM
Well, I guess I'll try and pick it up at 3...
Alzarath
04-11-2008, 06:43 AM
Gettin my copy today :D
Hmm which character to start with first, The Disgaea fan in me says go with Lilica since she reminds me of Etna but she seems to require effort to really do well with, and then there is characters like Maori that seem to produce all kinds of mind games with her summons / friends, to disrupt the opponents strategy by flooding the screen with attacks that come from nearly everywhere at once.
I guess I'm going to have to put in a solid several hours in training mode to get a feel for the cast and determine who I'll focus using to bring to University Pinball to compete.
Overall, I hope to get good, especially early with it's release, especially if this game picks up with the flood of new players getting into the game today / tomorrow when they pick up their copies.
lilica and maori both take a lot of practice to get good with, mainly due to the fact that they're both execution-heavy.
for beginners, the character learning curve would look something like this...
hard: lieselotte, lilica, maori
easy: heart, kamui, fiona, saki
normal: everybody else
also, maori isn't really about mix-ups (although she does have some options, depenging on what kind of situation she is in). as a basic strategy for maori, you want to keep the opponent away from her the entire match. she is definitely the strongest when the opponent is half ~ full screen away, when she can fill the screen with her sisters and rolling top. use 236a/b/c, 214a/b/c and j.623a/b/c as her primary zoning weapons, and occasionally use 421c and 22c when the spacing is right.
you want to avoiding fighting the opponent at close range as much as possible due to the fact that her normals are not very good in a face-to-face fight. most of them are rather slow and tend to lose in a poking match. when maori gets rushed down in the corner, you just gotta stay patient and look for an opening. people typically look for the right moment to forward guard cancel or backward guard cancel into 421a/b/c or 22a. 421a/b/c is typically a safer option; although it doesn't give maori an opportunity for a bbc loop like 22a would, it gives maori frame advantage on block, and allow her to safely reset her zoning game on hit. 5c is also a excellent move to be used as an anti-air (great clash frames active for a looong time + big hitbox).
maori is not very good air-to-air either. this is mainly due to the fact that her j.b and j.c are projectiles without a fixed hitbox. they float differently depending on what maori's momentum is, but neither are not good move to be used as a poke. however, air back dash j.c gives a decent-sized hitbox in front of maori, and can be used for zoning as well as running away in air (similar to dizzy's j.s in gg). j.a is the move of choice if you need to resort to zero-range fight in air, but it is slower and not as big compared to most characters' j.a. however, if her j.a does connect, you can j.a > j.a > jc > j.a > j.c > land > 5a > 5b > 623a and take it to the bbc loop from there. go for a air throw if you think you're in the correct range. maori has one of the best air throws in the game, as it allows her to directly go into her bbc loop. just 2gc > j.b > land > 5b or 2gc > land > 5b if you're closer to the ground.
with the exception to 5c, maori is horrible against clashes. this is due to the fact that a good bulk of her normals are projectiles (3a, 3b, 6b, 2c, j.b, j.c). and since they are considered projectiles, you cannot cancel them whenever clashes happen... which usually results in a free combo for the opponent. all the more reason to try to avoid face-to-face fight as much as possible.
so, summing up her basic game: zone the shit out of the opponent, and capitalize on big damage whenever she has the opportunity to land the bbc loop.
Gamestop called me up yesterday so yeah I'm getting my reserved copy today. Unless UPS by me messes up or something. A game coming out Friday instead of Wednesday? Hella bizarre...
Been playing the Japanese version so now I'll be able to READ IT! Oh snap I'm gonna pretend I got a Star Trek Universal Translator say word! :woot:
And yeah, I have no freaking clue as to what the story is about, just that it's a great game. :lovin:
Nokato
04-11-2008, 07:23 AM
I'm definitely taking people's word that its a a good game in terms of competitive play. I just think it'll be weird buying it if I go through with it today. I can imagine people looking at me weird or something--due to subject or the look of the characters. I do like the matches I've watched on youtube, it definitely looks like a fun game to play. Hopefully I'll get the game and see for myself.
Edit: Fuck it, I'll probably buy it anyway.
Gorehound
04-11-2008, 07:29 AM
lilica and maori both take a lot of practice to get good with, mainly due to the fact that they're both execution-heavy.
for beginners, the character learning curve would look something like this...
hard: lieselotte, lilica, maori
easy: heart, kamui, fiona, saki
normal: everybody else
That looks right on the difficulty. I still think Loliblades is the hardest character to master. Maori and Liese require strategy and combo timing, but Lilica is much worst since you have to really time her Dash specials and beginners who pick her will mostly think WTF!
I always thought Mei Fang fit the Easy category, I see noobs who pick her at the Arcade win with her most of the time.
Oh yeah, I pick my copy after work around 2pm today :tup:
mei-fang may seem that way since her raw damage is really high, but i still think characters like heart and kamui are easier to pick up at basic levels.
i also personally think saki should be placed in 'normal' in overall difficulty use... but i put her in 'easy' since i was talking about beginners (when strats and finer character property nuances don't matter as much) and her basic stuff is among the easiest to pick up in the game. and we all love 214a+b. :rofl:
Sabin
04-11-2008, 07:47 AM
I'm definitely taking people's word that its a a good game in terms of competitive play. I just think it'll be weird buying it if I go through with it today. I can imagine people looking at me weird or something--due to subject or the look of the characters. I do like the matches I've watched on youtube, it definitely looks like a fun game to play. Hopefully I'll get the game and see for myself.
Edit: Fuck it, I'll probably buy it anyway.
Sup Nokato. Yeah, thats basically the story of this game...I think pretty much we've gotten the word out (and people believe us for the most part) that this game is a pretty good competitive game and looks fun. But...the loli thing holding them back as always. A lot of people dont want to be seen playing that loli fighter. While some people (like HeartNana) definetely do embrace the gimmick of this game :rolleyes: (lol) me personally, i see nothing but hitboxes and potential, lol. But I hope it doesnt discourage you.
If anything, I think I can pretty much say that this game helped me get pussy due to it's mo-e thing goign on (on some real talk) so i dont think its all that bad. :rofl:
what else did I read in here.. oh yeah, Humbag Unless youre playing Yoriko or Fiona, thene you dont really need to worry about tiers that much..seriously...game has god balance because everyone has some kind of BS as usual.
what else did I read in here.. oh yeah, Humbag Unless youre playing Yoriko or Fiona, thene you dont really need to worry about tiers that much..seriously...game has god balance because everyone has some kind of BS as usual.
yea, maori is ranked b- overall... but she also has the highest damage potential in the game. her full poison loop with 6 homing guages can deal over 27000-point damage (which is pretty much about 95% life) from full health. :rofl:
even fiona, who is pretty shitty compared to the rest of the game, has shenanigans of her own.
dj_de
04-11-2008, 08:34 AM
If anything, I think I can pretty much say that this game helped me get pussy due to it's mo-e thing goign on (on some real talk) so i dont think its all that bad. :rofl:
I can totally relate to this. I can't tell you how many times I've gone up to some chick and had to say "why yes I DO play a fighting game composed of all little girls, so why aren't you already all over my dilznik?" While Saki-chan still can't quite respond to me, I still hope I can one day free her from her glass prison and we can finally live the lives we are destined for...
anyone get theirs yet? my (wishful thinking lol) hope that it was delayed so they could bundle something nice for the pre-o