The New Arcana HYPE Thread - Asians split pot at NEC, Sabin allows it by no showing

[Random123456789]

Thank you for the suggestions so far! Yeah, the thing with Jumping C is that once that happens, you're below the enemy, and once you do the wind super, it will only hit a few times, then possibly whiff. I'll keep trying though, but I see where you're going with it. I was just happy to do it :sweat: I knew Kamui had something with Wind arcana! lol

[Capps Indigo]

7000 replies, good stuff arcana peeps. get hype for mwc!!

[NappyJin]

7000 replies, good stuff arcana peeps. get hype for mwc!!

We need to get more casuals in. Last time was pretty sweet.

[Bill307]

I take back what I said about that Wind combo being easy. :sweat:

[Random123456789]

I take back what I said about that Wind combo being easy. :sweat:

It's alright. Keep practicing, and you can get it too!:bgrin:

[orka]

mwc mwc mwc

[Tiggy]

mwc mwc mwc

Boned?

More like pwned! :rofl:

[orka]

Boned?

More like pwned! :rofl:

you don't know that you're boned until it hits you... it's like, 'whoa'

at any rate, i'm always down for boning if it involves tama-nee :)

[DS]

you don't know that you're boned until it hits you... it's like, 'whoa'

at any rate, i'm always down for boning if it involves tama-nee :)

..................Awful.

[Tiggy]

you don't know that you're boned until it hits you... it's like, 'whoa'

at any rate, i'm always down for boning if it involves tama-nee :)

:rofl:

[Saotome Kaneda]

and once again animufag nonsense gays up the thread

[orka]

too real

orka is the new kanye

i smell jealousy

[AlterGenesis]

:rofl: Arcana is amazing.

[NappyJin]

THREE DAYS!

When's everyone getting into IL?

[orka]

THREE DAYS!

When's everyone getting into IL?

who are you coming with, nappy?

keits/arsenal?

[Tiggy]

THREE DAYS!

When's everyone getting into IL?

If all goes well, Friday evening.

[Doc Holaday]

I know there are 2 versions of Saki's Jump 3C, how do you execute the other version, the one that you can combo off of because I can't seem to figure out how to do it. I was only able to do it once and that was it...Somebody help ya boy...

[Tiggy]

I know there are 2 versions of Saki's Jump 3C, how do you execute the other version, the one that you can combo off of because I can't seem to figure out how to do it. I was only able to do it once and that was it...Somebody help ya boy...

Ah..you're talking about her [8]2C special. I thought the whole charge up then down thing was retarded the first time I saw it :rofl:

The best thing to do is buffer the [8] by doing:

5B [8] 5C 2C


It has to be quick so you don't end up jumping before you push 5C.

[Doc Holaday]

That input is while in combo...Correct?

[NappyJin]

who are you coming with, nappy?

keits/arsenal?

I'm riding with either some of the WI Tekken guys, or one of my friends who wants to come down and just watch. Either way, I'll be there sometime on Friday, or at latest, Saturday morning.

[Tiggy]

That input is while in combo...Correct?


It depends on what you mean. You could easily just do the notation that I gave you to practice the buffer. After you press 5B, push 8 and hold it. Then push 5C right after that so Saki goes into the 5C animation, instead of jumping. After the hit lands, then press 2C.

Sorry for the late response, had a lot of errands to run today :sweat:

[orka]

I'm riding with either some of the WI Tekken guys, or one of my friends who wants to come down and just watch. Either way, I'll be there sometime on Friday, or at latest, Saturday morning.

cool... i'm actually out of town right now :wtf:

will be back friday, though, just in time for mwc

arcana tourney (and ah2 tourney) should be fun :wgrin:



ps - i name your lilica "don't go chasing waterfalls"

[specs]

Recently got this game on PS2. I can feel my estrogen count multiplying as I play. Which worries me.

Regardless... any Heart Aino strats? I'm having a hard time finding some.

[MSP_Lover]

ok i really want to play with Lilica but they told me she is really hard to play with but i dont care>
So does anyone know how to play with her cause i need help?

[orka]

ok i really want to play with Lilica but they told me she is really hard to play with but i dont care>
So does anyone know how to play with her cause i need help?

come to mwc and watch HeartNana get beasted on :wgrin:

[MSP_Lover]

come to mwc and watch HeartNana beast :wgrin:

where is that?

[Saotome Kaneda]

where is that?
http://forums.shoryuken.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=149857

[MSP_Lover]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=149857oh i wish i could go.
but i will be going to that Impactclash Tourney cause its like down the street from me. yall should come to this.

[Sabin]

Recently got this game on PS2. I can feel my estrogen count multiplying as I play. Which worries me.

Regardless... any Heart Aino strats? I'm having a hard time finding some.

Search for my name on this thread a few pages back I answered some heart questions by wing zero. Sorry I've been slacking on the wiki tho.

Anyway I'm heading to MWC now. I will be there by friday afternoon, so see you all there!

[Sabin]

come to mwc and watch HeartNana get beasted on :wgrin:

Fixed that quote for you. :)

[Saotome Kaneda]

Fixed that quote for you. :)
is it gonna be THAT FREE?????

[orka]

uh, ohhhh art is serious... arcana is on!




THIS IS GETTING STUUUUUUPID

[SMS Team]

Recently got this game on PS2. I can feel my estrogen count multiplying as I play. Which worries me.

Regardless... any Heart Aino strats? I'm having a hard time finding some.

Up your Heart Aino, specs! What we need is some Fiona lovin', which I SORELY NEED! Strat-wise, that is!

[Tiggy]

Anybody doing AH casuals Friday night? I might have a set-up in my room at the Red Roof Inn, if my friend doesn't mind the company.

Also, is woof going to be there? I told him that I'd bring Disgaea 3 for him so he could try it out.

[Bill307]

Dunno if I'll get an answer for this until after MWC, but I was wondering what a more powerful version of Kamui's Kodama combo would be (and how much damage it does, if known)? I finally got the basic one on the Wiki to work, only to discover it does the same damage as a basic 1 homing 1 super combo. :sad:

I'm editing Kamui's Wiki page to add damage info for the combos I can do so far, and to add the other basic combo I've been using. There's just one problem: for some of the combos that end in 214C, I find that only the first hit of 214C connects, whereas using 214A results in higher damage. I'm thinking of making this change, and then if it turns out I'm doing the combos wrong or something, it can be changed back.

I'm also planning to add where to dash in the combos that I can do.


Have fun at MWC, guys. Record vids! :wink:

Edit:
Anybody doing AH casuals Friday night?
AHF casuals were all but missing at C3. :sad: Hopefully you guys can get some organized.

[Bill307]

http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Tokinomiya_Kamui#Combos

Revamped Kamui's combos list. :smile: Added damage #s and timing hints for the combos that I can do. It will be interesting to compare the damage for that Wind Kamui combo (with only 2 supers) to the 2-super basic Kodama combo. I think the Wind Kamui combo will deal more damage, and as difficult as I found it, imo it was still significantly easier to learn than the basic Kodama combo.

By the way, ignore what I said in my previous post about not being able to get all 3 hits of 421C: I've realized I just need to add j.A and slow down my dj.B and dj.C to get Kamui into the right position.


Lastly, I saw this text on Nico Video: BC SUPERRR!!!

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/518/bcsupervk4.png

It came up just after Kamui did, well, B C super obviously. I burst out laughing when I saw it; I don't know why. :rofl:

(無怨 = name of 236A+B)

[orka]

Dunno if I'll get an answer for this until after MWC, but I was wondering what a more powerful version of Kamui's Kodama combo would be (and how much damage it does, if known)? I finally got the basic one on the Wiki to work, only to discover it does the same damage as a basic 1 homing 1 super combo. :sad:

I'm editing Kamui's Wiki page to add damage info for the combos I can do so far, and to add the other basic combo I've been using. There's just one problem: for some of the combos that end in 214C, I find that only the first hit of 214C connects, whereas using 214A results in higher damage. I'm thinking of making this change, and then if it turns out I'm doing the combos wrong or something, it can be changed back.

the kodama combo i always did was:

2a > 2b > 2c > 41236b > 63214a+b (hold onto a) > 3b > j.b > jc > j.b > (release a) j.2c > 6gc > j.c > land > dash > j.a > j.b > jc > j.b > j.c > j.22x

or

2a > 2b > 2c > 41236b > 63214a+b (hold onto a) > 3b > j.b > jc > j.b > (release a) j.2c > 6gc > j.c > land > dash > j.a > j.b > jc > j.b > j.c > j.421c > j.421a+b

and all this time, i thought the ones i did was the 'basic' version. i didn't know there was a combo involving 41236a. :x

there's a harder one (with 3b after landing) that does slightly more damage the ones i listed... but the combos i listed are pretty stable and works anywhere on screen.

i'm not sure which one arturo uses.

also, i'm pretty sure the kodama input is 63214a+b instead of 214a+b.

[Bill307]

Thanks orka, I added those combos to the Wiki as the "Intermediate Kodama Combo". Fixed the input for Kodama in the basic combo, too.

I learned how to do the "Intermediate Bread and Butter Combo 2" just now. It seems like it's possible to connect j.A after j.C only when the opponent is in the corner, or at least it's exceedingly difficult outside of the corner. :confused:

[Bill307]

Uhhh... I think this "combo" that was on the Wiki is a mistake:

*** 2A 2B 2C 4C 6HC 5A 5B 3B j.AB dj.BC 421A+B

Clearly 4C isn't going to work there. Then I replaced it with 3C (probably the author's intent?):

*** 2A 2B 2C 3C 6HC 5A 5B 3B j.AB dj.BC 421A+B

Now, I'm pretty sure it's impossible to connect the 5A after 3C 6HC. So I replaced the combo with the following:

*** 2A 2B 2C > 3C > 5[HC] (hold down D) > j.A j.B > dj.B dj.C > 421C (3 hits) > optional 421A+B
(called Basic BnB 3 on the Wiki)

Seems like it'd be more useful with a Fire Arcana corner combo after 3C. Anyway, if anyone knows what the combo was supposed to be, or can actually connect 3C 6HC 5A, then let me know. :razz:

[Frank the Tank]

So Bill, wtf is with all this Kamui shit? If I didn't know better, I'd think you were droppin the blob or something. Say it ain't so!!!

[AlterGenesis]

He needs something more top-tier to fight the love.

[SMS Team]

I HATE MILDRED!!!

Firstly, she's one annoying, cheap-ass boss character! With uber-damaging grabs/explosions, and following it up with lasers from above! She could give GILL a run for his money!

And secondly, who calls themselves MILDRED? That's just a dumb name for a final boss, IMO.

[Tiggy]

*Looks at new thread title*

:rofl:

I won't say all that, but Sabin did indeed win AH1. I'll do shoutouts and impressions later, need sleep for the drive home.

[orka]

all i gotta say is... this game's dead :x

at any rate, gg to everybody at mwc

[DS]

all i gotta say is... this game's dead :x

at any rate, gg to everybody at mwc

Yeah, everyone is hype about that new crack in Chicago. Capps and Meta are playing right now. They've been playing all night, actually. lol

Anyway, good seeing all of the AH players there. Congrats to all the placers and good times. And damn orka, thanks for the Gunparade March. I feel bad though because I was gonna pay for that since you were selling your DVDs. :sad:

[orka]

Yeah, everyone is hype about that new crack in Chicago. Capps and Meta are playing right now. They've been playing all night, actually. lol

Anyway, good seeing all of the AH players there. Congrats to all the placers and good times. And damn orka, thanks for the Gunparade March. I feel bad though because I was gonna pay for that since you were selling your DVDs. :sad:

it was meant to be a parting gift, so i didn't expect you to pay me.

i was gonna give you the old nadesico boxset but i couldn't find it. i could have dug through my closet, but i was afraid it might lead to narnia... or bubzland (i can only hope so *crosses fingers*).

so yea, i'm at work and still thinking about ah2. :(

life sucks.

[NappyJin]

GGs this weekend, everyone I played...

I'm going back to sleep now.

[DS]

it was meant to be a parting gift, so i didn't expect you to pay me.

Well, I will definitely watch it when I get home. Mecha anime ftw. :tup:

i was gonna give you the old nadesico boxset but i couldn't find it. i could have dug through my closet, but i was afraid it might lead to narnia... or bubzland (i can only hope so *crosses fingers*).

lol Man, we passed by this ribs place called Bub's and I was like, "Man, they misspelled Bubz." Dunno why I thought of that. Oh no........THE BUBZ HAVE INFECTED ME! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

so yea, i'm at work and still thinking about ah2. :(

life sucks.

Owned, bitch. OWNED! Well, hopefully you can make it out to NEC this year(I hope it's at a better hotel*crosses testicles*).

[orka]

lol Man, we passed by this ribs place called Bub's and I was like, "Man, they misspelled Bubz." Dunno why I thought of that. Oh no........THE BUBZ HAVE INFECTED ME! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

i told you guys about bub's friday and none of you knew wtf i was talking about... and you called me a "stupid, yellow-faced orange chicken scooper" :mad:

*crosses testicles*

dude, gross

[Sabin]

lol i forgot about arcana 1 a while ago, its kinda dead to me at least locally since we have ah2...but..at least i finally "bodied" this nigga rob he went to japan in this game, geez. Now I have to go to Japan to run it back and body Rob in AH2.

ggs to all. matches were godlike. youll see when vids are encoded. everything direct feed w/mic.

i <3 chicago

btw who was the slick guy that changed the topic cause it certainly wasnt me this time. Kaneda? :P

[Tiggy]

all i gotta say is... this game's dead :x

....Then why in the hell do I even bother practicing? :crybaby:

GG's to everyone at the tourney. It was good meeting new people and seeing familiar faces again. A special shoutout to orka, who I fought against in losers in both AH1 and AH2....who turtled against me both times:bluu: But it's like you said dude, do what you gotta do to get the win. I ain't mad at ya :lovin:
Other than the Chicago traffic and my tourney jitters which were at their worst ever, I had fun on my birthday weekend.

[Bill307]

So Bill, wtf is with all this Kamui shit? If I didn't know better, I'd think you were droppin the blob or something. Say it ain't so!!!
:lol: I thought Kamui would be just a fling at first, but the way it's been going, I might end up using both girls. Polygamy ftw!

Speaking of fighting the love, I found this AH2 vid amusing: this Zenia player gets hit by too many love balls (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3708359). :looney:


Orka: I couldn't get your Kodama combo to work. >_< After "41236B > Kodama > 3B > j.B", I find the opponent is too high to do "j.C > land > j.B". Any advice? :xeye:

Sabin: Grats on winning in AHF. Are you coming to T9, and are you signed up for AHF? We need more people! Also, got any beefy Kodama combos we can put on the Wiki?


Speaking of T9 (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=158046), is anybody here planning on coming up and entering AHF? There's a 16 player minimum for it to be an official tournament and I'm not sure we're going to meet that requirement. :xeye:

Moreover, if I know people are coming all the way from the US who are hungry for Arcana, then I'll try extra hard to make sure we can at least get something set up for casuals or an informal round-robin or something. E.g. I might try to bring my own TV and a friend's PS2: if the venue has enough space, and since I'd be bringing all the equipment myself, we might be able to run an AHF tourney despite having fewer than 16 players.

[orka]

Orka: I couldn't get your Kodama combo to work. >_< After "41236B > Kodama > 3B > j.B", I find the opponent is too high to do "j.C > land > j.B". Any advice? :xeye:

maybe you confused my jc with j.c? i ask this cus i know i confuse people when i write jc a lot of times... i never got around to writing d.j instead >_>

the opponent shouldn't be too high if you do 3b > j.b > jump cancel > j.b > j.2c

also, i figured out which combo art does from watching him play this weekend:

2a > 2b > 2c > 41236b > 63214a+b (hold onto a) > 3b > j.b > jc > j.b > (release a) j.2c > 3gc > j.c > land > dash > 3b > j.a > j.b > jc > j.b > j.c > whatever finisher

[Bill307]

Ohhhh, jc is not j.C . Okay, that makes a lot more sense, now!

[Dark Geese]

Yo Rob and Art put me in this shit next time please!!! :lol: :rofl:

[Bill307]

I HATE MILDRED!!!

Firstly, she's one annoying, cheap-ass boss character! With uber-damaging grabs/explosions, and following it up with lasers from above! She could give GILL a run for his money!

And secondly, who calls themselves MILDRED? That's just a dumb name for a final boss, IMO.
Ah, Mildred. The reason I don't play Story Mode anymore unless I want to unlock something or read dialog :rolleyes:. I have two suggestions for her:
1. Play with the cpu on 4 stars. At 8 stars her uber-damage is way too gay.
2. 6[C] in corner -> combo. Someone else suggested this before and it worked wonders for me.

[Tiggy]

I was sad the first time I found out that Mildred wasn't playable...

Another thing you could do is set the rounds so that you only have to win one, but the CPU has to win five.

[meta]

....Then why in the hell do I even bother practicing? :crybaby:

GG's to everyone at the tourney. It was good meeting new people and seeing familiar faces again. A special shoutout to orka, who I fought against in losers in both AH1 and AH2....who turtled against me both times:bluu: But it's like you said dude, do what you gotta do to get the win. I ain't mad at ya :lovin:
Other than the Chicago traffic and my tourney jitters which were at their worst ever, I had fun on my birthday weekend.

After playing AH2 this weekend. Lots of stuff from AH1 definitely carries over, so the practicing isn't a waste at all. But yeah, after playing AH2, just going back to AH1 is the weirdest thing ever. If andy puts up my tourney match against DS, you can easily tell that I was totally off my game compared to my later matches, since I was playing a ton of AH2 before the tourney started. Still had a lot of fun during the tourney and playing casuals though.

[DS]

lol That match was horrible, Meta. We kept questioning our morals as we played. AH2 is too strong.

[NappyJin]

I didn't get to play you at all in AH or AH2, DS. It's probably better that I didn't play you in AH2...seeing as how I'm shit on stick...but next time, we have to play.

[HeartNana]

GGs to everyone in Ah1 that i played in tourney (Jason from WI, PBJ, Sabin, Capps, Noel, and Justin). I don't have any excuses for losing 2x in the tourney to Sabin, he was way better, and proved it by playing a very strong game that, in the end, i couldn't deal with. Good job, bro! Your Kamui/Gier is too cheap for my cheapness to handle, haha.

[Sabin]

After playing AH2 this weekend. Lots of stuff from AH1 definitely carries over, so the practicing isn't a waste at all. But yeah, after playing AH2, just going back to AH1 is the weirdest thing ever. If andy puts up my tourney match against DS, you can easily tell that I was totally off my game compared to my later matches, since I was playing a ton of AH2 before the tourney started. Still had a lot of fun during the tourney and playing casuals though.

Which is why I sat in training mode for 15 to 20 minutes while the station was free to practice my ah1 combos, cuz rob bodied me in ah1 the night before and I was dropping everything lol. Yes its that serious.

Bill I really wanna come up considering I came to cansdas tourneys for 3 years in a row now, but honestly the date was announced too late and I got a lot on my plate now, trying to go to evo and Japan this summer so I got a lot on my plate financially lol. Well see cause I always have fun in Canada and I usually wing tournament trips at the last second. Have to ask if Justin is going or not.
As for the kodama combos ill answer a little later, I'm busy, just got back in the city after a 24 hour busride home lol

[Tiggy]

Lots of stuff from AH1 definitely carries over, so the practicing isn't a waste at all.

I'm glad that you think that. I'm still gonna practice Lilica so I don't mess up simple stuff next time....like heel kick loop. 5D?!? Maybe I should've practiced inbetween matches too. I just wasn't hungry enough to jump in front of people the same way some of them jumped in front of me :sad:

And thanks for the compliment on my Lilica Art. That really made my day :lovin: Sorry to hear you had a 24 hr bus ride though, I would've gone CRAZY.

[Sp00ky]

http://teamspooky.com/content/?p=53

MWC AH1 Singles.

[pbj_mixxa]

Sp00ks... you are just too gdlk! I can't believe how quick you're getting these vids up!!!

[beatsstayflowin]

http://teamspooky.com/content/?p=50

MWC AH1 Singles.

Whoa, I accidentally downloaded the AH2 videos along with the AH matches.

Oh well, no point in canceling the download now.

[Sp00ky]

Yeah my bad wrong link

Heres the correct one:
http://teamspooky.com/content/?p=53

[beatsstayflowin]

Yeah my bad wrong link

Heres the correct one:
http://teamspooky.com/content/?p=53

Cool, thanks for the upload. I just started watching.

Holy crap, Rob just kills Noel in the third round... teach me your ways :pray:

Did anyone use Lieselotte in the tourney?

[HeartNana]

Cool, thanks for the upload. I just started watching.

Holy crap, Rob just kills Noel in the third round... teach me your ways :pray:

Did anyone use Lieselotte in the tourney?
We discussed the reason for why certain people do well.

Its love.

Character love.

Learn to love your character, and your character will love you.:lovin:

and meta used Lieselotte, but he got 5th, so he barely missed top 4.

[beatsstayflowin]

Yeah, I finally finished the whole thing... now it's 2am and I'm sleepy, but instead of sleeping I'll post some more, because SRK is better than sleep.

Thanks to all the players for putting together an awesome show.

We discussed the reason for why certain people do well.

Its love.

Character love.

Learn to love your character, and your character will love you.:lovin:

and meta used Lieselotte, but he got 5th, so he barely missed top 4.

I love Saki's personality. Will my Lieselotte be jealous? I also don't love Heihachi. Maybe it wasn't meant to be.

Sabin, were you just toying with JustinW? You're mean!
That last round was awesome to watch though.

I love the commentary. I hope you guys tape more matches.

I didn't know JustinW used Konoha. I didn't know HeartNana used MeiFang. I didn't even know Popeye's chicken was that good. Is there any Church's Chicken out in the East Coast/MidWest?

I want to see Meta's godly Lies.

[chopa]

Yes there are church's chicken in the east coast/midwest
leastways there is in Ohio (usually tied to a white castle)

[Tiggy]

We discussed the reason for why certain people do well.

Its love.

Character love.

Learn to love your character, and your character will love you.:lovin:


I must of missed those strats.


I didn't know JustinW used Konoha. I didn't know HeartNana used MeiFang. I didn't even know Popeye's chicken was that good. Is there any Church's Chicken out in the East Coast/MidWest?

I want to see Meta's godly Lies.

Yes there are church's chicken in the east coast/midwest
leastways there is in Ohio (usually tied to a white castle)

There's a White Castle AND a Church's Chicken down the street from me :rofl: We've got Popeye's too.

Oh yeah, meta cheats. Just by being good with Liese you cheat by default. :razzy: Seriouisly though his Liese makes me want to try and pick her up again.

[augiebeans]

How the fuck do I use Dorothy, she's my favorite character ever in any game and I can't find info or even a movelist on what to do

I keep putting 50 cents in and I dont even know how the cards attack I lost like 3$ yesterday instantly to some Xenia kid before I could learn moves.


Should I be looking somewhere besides guardcrush.net?

[Saotome Kaneda]

How the fuck do I use Dorothy, she's my favorite character ever in any game and I can't find info or even a movelist on what to do

I keep putting 50 cents in and I dont even know how the cards attack I lost like 3$ yesterday instantly to some Xenia kid before I could learn moves.


Should I be looking somewhere besides guardcrush.net?
first you find the right arcana thread lol

[Sp00ky]

Torrent of the ah1 vid for peopel who have trouble downloading large files:

http://www.teamspooky.com/Vids/Torrent/mwc%20ah1%20Top4.zip.torrent

[ReiGun]

I just finished watching the vid. Damn, that made me wanna go practice more. I've been struggling to comobs and stuff down, but Sabin and Heartnana in that last round made it look easy. Too good.

Oh and great commentary :)

[beatsstayflowin]

This thread makes me hungry

[I Kei I]

I know this is sort of an awkward place to post about this (you'll see why if you check it out), but I posted my first combo vid on YouTube recently, and I was hoping I could get some peeps to look into it, and rate and comment it on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzI2Mpll68Q

All the combos were done by me, and the music and editing was chosen/done by SageRuffin. Hope you like. :3

[beatsstayflowin]

I know this is sort of an awkward place to post about this (you'll see why if you check it out), but I posted my first combo vid on YouTube recently, and I was hoping I could get some peeps to look into it, and rate and comment it on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzI2Mpll68Q

All the combos were done by me, and the music and editing was chosen/done by SageRuffin. Hope you like. :3

It's nice that you put the effort, but did you know that there's plenty of arcana heart combo videos up there?

Stolen from BlackShinobi's gamefaqs Arcana topic:

Konoha - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SENRFZc-IZY

Kira - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-42Ue4I6fU

Heart - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7RBOHAykbs

Mei Fang - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KN_xet0V34

Fiona - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW8eyRx0lwk

Lilica - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmASgfmnVhU

Lieselotte - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs56-sEnwvM

Saki - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dd7n44ewgg

Kamui - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6ICMd6y5wE

Yoriko - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb5rbFW7oaQ

Maori - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne2p8svLQmY

[I Kei I]

Oh, I know, but then, AH isn't the complete focus of my vid. :P Had that been the case, I very well wouldn't have made any attempt..

[Capps Indigo]

I know this is sort of an awkward place to post about this (you'll see why if you check it out), but I posted my first combo vid on YouTube recently, and I was hoping I could get some peeps to look into it, and rate and comment it on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzI2Mpll68Q

All the combos were done by me, and the music and editing was chosen/done by SageRuffin. Hope you like. :3

the combo vid was fun enough to watch. of course, many of the combos were not practical, but thats how combo vids are sometimes. the jam combo was lolz. ^_^


It's nice that you put the effort, but did you know that there's plenty of arcana heart combo videos up there?

Stolen from BlackShinobi's gamefaqs Arcana topic:

...lots of links...

take note that these are links to arcana heart 1 regular combo vids (not arcana heart full). so some of these combos are outdated will not carry over to the standard tourney version.

[Bill307]

Arturo: Understandable. Well I hope at least one of you and/or Justin show up, because I'm hungry for a rematch. :wink:

Spooky: thanks for getting the vids up so fast. So far I've seen the AH1 matches. The commentary was great. :lol:

[nekohime]

I took a break from AH for a while to do other stuff but watching the MWC video reminded me of how much I like this game and got me practicing again. I switched from Heart to Fiona and am having a lot of fun with her, both in spite and because of her limited combo and poking abilities.

I'm still undecided on which arcana to use. I tried Time first which was interesting but I got the feeling it didn't mix with her very smoothly and making it work well would take more skill than I currently have. I tried Fire for extra damage which worked well enough. Lightning didn't work as well as I wanted it too. Gier led to some fun setups when I actually got them to work without dropping the combo or getting hit. Wind was interesting, the added mobility helped offset Fiona's sluggishness and pushing the opponent away with forward Gaurd Cancel was a bit more successful than trying to win poking contests. I tried Fire again with the intent of using more of the arcana's abilities now that I was better with the character and was rewarded with the usefulness of of those curving fireballs and unblockable charged launchers.

I do see some good reasons for her to be unpopular in competitive play. The bad damage/risk ratio when compared to other characters that I've read about is definitely noticeable. With only one native air special and no native air supers she has very limited areal combo options, and since a lot of ground combos turn into air combos once you have to jump to land the next hit that puts quite a damper on her combo game. That's OK though because I'm still a scrub who sucks at comboing, so for now simpler combos work better for me.

I'm still trying (without much success) to get some of my friends who also dabble in fighting games to buy this so I can get some intelligent competition to force me to get better. I know I've said it before here but the AI is really disappointing. Maybe I've just been watching too many match videos but it makes me really sad when I play against Lilica on difficulty 8 and she never once uses the instant heel kick loop which will probably tear me a new one the first time someone uses it on me. Also I can't count the number of times the AI has launched me without any sort of follow up or has neglected to punish me for whiffing a super. I may end up going to a gaming cafe and playing by myself in the hopes of catching the interest of random people.

In any case, I've rambled long enough, peace out and congratulations to all four of you who made it into the MWC finals video. You guys are awesome and make me want to be better.

[Mizuki]

I merced crack last weekend I love this game (Because this was the only game I beat him in)

[Bill307]

I'm still trying (without much success) to get some of my friends who also dabble in fighting games to buy this so I can get some intelligent competition to force me to get better. I know I've said it before here but the AI is really disappointing. Maybe I've just been watching too many match videos but it makes me really sad when I play against Lilica on difficulty 8 and she never once uses the instant heel kick loop which will probably tear me a new one the first time someone uses it on me. Also I can't count the number of times the AI has launched me without any sort of follow up or has neglected to punish me for whiffing a super. I may end up going to a gaming cafe and playing by myself in the hopes of catching the interest of random people.
I hear that. One thing I find somewhat fun is to play Arcade Mode and see how many perfects I can get, or how high a score I can get. That way, even though the AI's damage output is terrible, I have some motivation to not get hit.

My main beef with the AI is that it doesn't play like a human AT ALL. E.g. no human is going to walk-up throw with auto-block. And it NEVER does anything after a 6GC, which is the exact opposite of a human player, and it trains you to react in totally the wrong way to 6GCs. It also likes to anti-air me with 6C (most notably Heart's) as soon as I press jump. Lastly, I never get grabbed by CPU Kira. Instead of just grabbing me, the comp always does 5A xx 360, where the 360 is guaranteed to whiff. :shake:

[nekohime]

I'm still not good enough that I win every match but I do win most of them. Anyone using Lightning arcana tends to give me some trouble as I keep letting myself get zapped which kills my momentum. On occasion the CPU will decide that it actually knows what it's doing and will unload some major beat-down but it's still nothing compared to what I would expect from, say, Capcom vs. SNK 2's CPU on even a medium difficulty.

I've taken to giving the CPU a handicap so that it only needs to win one round while I need 3 or more depending on how long intend to play. I find I'm more inclined to give my all instead instead of letting the CPU just have it when it suddenly decides to be serious if losing one round means I have to win 5 more to advance.

[Bill307]

Well, with the notation fix, I finally got Orka's Kodama combo to work. It does the most damage out of all the combos on the Wiki that start with 2A 2B 2C. However, it still does less than the Wind combo that was posted some time ago. In fact, after trying to come up with an "advanced" Kodama combo, I couldn't find any combos that dealt more than 11,000.

The most damage I could do was with a "fluke" combo:

2A 2B 2C > 41236B > 63214[A]+B > 3B > j.B > dj.B dj.2C (release A) > 5[HC] > dj.B (yes, B) > land > j.B j.C > ( 5[HC] > j.B j.C )x2 > land > 3B > j.B > dj.B dj.C > 421A+B

Which did about 10,800. I got it on camera, and it's a good thing, too, because after trying for hours to do it again (and replace 3B with j.A and add 421C), I never did it again. :xeye: Hence "fluke combo". I think it all comes down to when you release A and the direction Kamui flies in when you do 5[HC].

A feasible "advanced" combo I found is:

2A 2B 2C > 41236B > 63214[A]+B > 3B > j.B > dj.B dj.2C (release A) > 5[HC] > dj.C > land > j.B short delay j.C > land > 66 dash > 3B > j.B > dj.B dj.C > 421C (2 hits)

Which does 10,140, slightly more than the combo Orka posted, but imo not worth using because the timing of when you release A becomes much more important and much more difficult.

Lastly, another ludicrously-hard timing combo, that I almost got to work, is:

2A 2B 2C > 41236B > 63214[A]+B > 3B > j.B > dj.B dj.2C (release A) > 5[HC] > dj.C > land > j.B short delay j.C > land > j.B shorter delay j.C > land > short dash > 3B > ... (j.A ?)

After trying for a couple of hours to get this to work, I got as far as the 3B only 3 times, and every time I tried to follow up with j.B, only to see it whiff. I don't really feel like seeing whether 3B > j.A will work instead. :sweat: The stupid-hard timing comes when you release A: you need to release A almost as late as possible, so that Kamui flies down at a steep angle and lands almost immediately after the dj.C hits. This allows you to delay the next j.B, which means the next j.C comes later, which gives you enough time to land and do another j.B j.C before doing 3B.


Anyway, some things I learned about Kamui from all of this:
1. After two j.Cs and one j.B, you can no longer connect j.C > 5[HC] > j.B .
2. In general, j.C reduces the untechable window significantly.
3. j.C > 5[HC] > j.B j.C doesn't work if the opponent is at point-blank range and is not above you: the j.C whiffs.

I think I'm done with Kamui's Wiki combos, now. :smile:

PS: I suggest no one try to do those two ridiculous-timing combos I posted. Unless you want to be frustrated out of your mind and swear a lot. :sweat:

[Mizuki]

PAGING SABIN. Need to talk about AH1 at evo.

[orka]

good job, bill

PAGING SABIN. Need to talk about AH1 at evo.

lol... good luck


ah1 is as hype as hillary clinton's bid for democratic nomination right now (i.e. dead)

[Bill307]

This topic is currently more active than the AH2 topic, though. :wink:

Thinking about making an educational Kamui combo video to show all those combos that I've learned but will rarely use in real matches. But would like more Arcana-specific combos, first.

Might do one for Kira as well, in the future.

[pbj_mixxa]

Just ignore orka. He's just pissed that he won't get to play AH2 for a LONG time!

[Tiggy]

I am currently playing AH with my nephews and my niece....the funniest thing ever. My one nephew kept doing 6C with Kira, and I got hit by it more times than I should have :rofl: Not to mention them intentionally doing mirrors trying to be funny :bluu: My Liese and Kira (surprisingly) are better on D-Pad than on stick, but everyone else I picked is terrible on pad.

Meh, I might actually try and learn Kira's BnB today, instead of picking her once every other month and trying to remember it from videos I watched months ago.

[orka]

i'm serious, none of the chicago players cares to play it anymore. i'd only play it if somebody new wants to learn the game.

in the meantime, we're playing random games like party's breaker/iamp/efz.

[HeartNana]

ill still play it, at least for the rest of the time im here. I just can't play Ah1 Lilica anymore.

[nekohime]

On one hand I'd love to play AH2 because everything I've seen about it so far looks increadible. On the other hand I still feel like I haven't played AH1 nearly enough and would like to keep playing that for a while.

[Tiggy]

On one hand I'd love to play AH2 because everything I've seen about it so far looks increadible. On the other hand I still feel like I haven't played AH1 nearly enough and would like to keep playing that for a while.

Stick with it. The experience definitely carries over.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

So who's the go to guy for Lei-Fang questions? I need to learn REAL combos.:rofl: All I know is random stuff into fireball super lol.

[Shotokan Symphony]

XAQshinor, I would surmise.

[pbj_mixxa]

So who's the go to guy for Mei-Fang questions? I need to learn REAL combos.:rofl: All I know is random stuff into fireball super lol.

(This ain't DoA! It's MEI-Fang!)

AH wiki, guardcrush, HeartNana (in that order).


What happened... I thought you was playing Saki?!

[nekohime]

Stick with it. The experience definitely carries over.

Of course when it comes down to picking between AHF or AH2 it's not like I actually have much choice. I don't think there's anywhere to play AH2 within a thousand miles of me and I don't have the spare cash to import a cabinet. Also, I don't think a console port has been confirmed in Japan yet so theres no telling when I'll actually get to play it.

The good news is that two of my friends actually bought AH for the PS2 yesterday. Hopefully they'll stay interested in it long enough that we can get some decent skills and not get our asses kicked quite so badly when we go to tourneys.

[Sabin]

ah1 isnt "dead" until ah2 is widely available to the rest of North America

of course its dead to me locally but i will still play it in tourneys 100%.

Mzuki, about AH1/evo...not eady to make a annoucement. I want to do a ah1/2 event at evo but Sp00ky aint sure how hes getting to Evo yet. One thing for sure, tickets are rape rape rape this year, wtf

[Tiggy]

Of course when it comes down to picking between AHF or AH2 it's not like I actually have much choice. I don't think there's anywhere to play AH2 within a thousand miles of me and I don't have the spare cash to import a cabinet. Also, I don't think a console port has been confirmed in Japan yet so theres no telling when I'll actually get to play it.

The good news is that two of my friends actually bought AH for the PS2 yesterday. Hopefully they'll stay interested in it long enough that we can get some decent skills and not get our asses kicked quite so badly when we go to tourneys.

:rofl:

Trust me man, you are definitely NOT alone on that one.
But speaking for me personally, I'm going to continue to play AH1 even if AH2 becomes available on console, just because this is the first fighting game that I have taken seriously; in both interest and time spent practicing.

I currently have two people that I play AH with, one of which constantly mops the floor with me, making me question all the months I spent practicing :sweat: Bill307 and Faight met him at C3....I can't stand how good he is sometimes, but the experience is the most important thing, not necessarily winning or losing.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

(This ain't DoA! It's MEI-Fang!)

AH wiki, guardcrush, HeartNana (in that order).


What happened... I thought you was playing Saki?!

I just started the damn game:rofl:


Well I started Mei-Fang yesterday and so far I got:

2/4a, 2b, 2c, hc6, 5a, 6b, ja, jb, jc, hc, jc, hc, jc, 5a, 5b, 5c, iad, c

2/4a, 2b, 2c, 236b, 236b, hc6, 5a, ja, jb, jc, fireball super, ja, jb, jc, fireball super, 41236+c

2/4a, 2b, 2c, 5b, 5c, iad, jc, 5a, 5b, 5c, iad, ja, jc, 41236+c

[NappyJin]

Luigi-Bo, last time I checked, you don't even play this game. Or you did for like, a week and quit...


Just wondering why?


GET ON DA MIC.

[Tiggy]

Finally attempted the Mei-Fang and Konoha fire ball loops, courtesy of XAQshinor and JustinW match vids :bgrin:

After working out quirks in my execution, I was able to do Mei-Fang's after about 40 minutes. Konoha's is a little trickier with the IAD timing to get the opponent at the right height for the 623B reset. I managed to do it about twice now, but I am looking to see if there are any other enders for Konoha's fire ball loop other than j.A > j.236A.

I need to come back to Lilica later. I can't do anything with her ATM. :sad:

[slayerx4]

I'm still not good enough that I win every match but I do win most of them. Anyone using Lightning arcana tends to give me some trouble as I keep letting myself get zapped which kills my momentum. On occasion the CPU will decide that it actually knows what it's doing and will unload some major beat-down but it's still nothing compared to what I would expect from, say, Capcom vs. SNK 2's CPU on even a medium difficulty.

I've taken to giving the CPU a handicap so that it only needs to win one round while I need 3 or more depending on how long intend to play. I find I'm more inclined to give my all instead instead of letting the CPU just have it when it suddenly decides to be serious if losing one round means I have to win 5 more to advance.

Where do you live in Ga? We can hook up to get some matches in so you know how to fight against humans. Computer is never good or that fun IMO. PM me or post in GA thread.

[NappyJin]

I need to come back to Lilica later. I can't do anything with her ATM. :sad:


D-pad that shit down, son. No joke, lol.

[nekohime]

Where do you live in Ga? We can hook up to get some matches in so you know how to fight against humans. Computer is never good or that fun IMO. PM me or post in GA thread.

That would be cool.

[HeartNana]

D-pad that shit down, son. No joke, lol.

Lilica stick for life, sry.:arazz:

[Tiggy]

D-pad that shit down, son. No joke, lol.

I wish I could man. My Lilica suffers terribly on pad though. Yours on the other hand is way too good. If I wasn't such a Rob fanboy I'd be idolizing you :lovin:

Lilica stick for life, sry.:arazz:

The stick is just too awesome man, I can't lie. It's almost like playing on D-Pad or any other stick is a crime. Actually I've been looking to get some advice on how to play on stick better. Aside from on-the-spot 236236D inputs, doing FS facing left is extremely hard for me. Either I don't complete the 214 motion all the way, or I can't dash forward. I know I could do 236A+C facing left, but then I tend to get 236A > 236A all too often. I think it's the way I hold the stick. OMG here come the jokes :shake: I tend to grip the ball, and I use my thumb to try and dash forward after the 214A+C. My friend told me to hold the shaft instead, as that would help my motion input a great deal. Thinking about it, it would help me a lot. But adjusting to that is going to take some time....I'm afraid about as much time as it took me to get as good with Lilica as I have. Hold do you play on stick HNana?

[devildigimon]

fuck arcade sticks...

but i love u all more than any stick

[Sabin]

The only adivce I can give you to learn stick it to just practice until it becomes natural. IMO there are no shortcuts...For example it took me 2 1/2 years before I was TOTALLY comfortable with Japanese equipment (had been playing on ONLY USA stick before then.) So, yeah...

[devildigimon]

if i lived in a world with no console gaming...

i dunno what i'd do...

4 realz

[orka]

play on the wiimote, it's so "innovative"

[NappyJin]

play on the wiimote, it's so "innovative"

LOL...

But yeah, that Lilica stick is pretty damn sweet. I wish I had one...shit, I wish I had a stick at all.

[HeartNana]

Tiggy - Honestly, I just kept practicing. If i would mess up flash step on one side (and get tons of random 5C's or 6C's) then I would just sit there and keep practicing, that's all. No easy answer, sadly. :(

I hold my stick mainly with my index finger and thumb with my middle finger resting against the bottom of the ball.

But i will be honest that I take my fingers off the stick when doing flash step. It makes it easier to go back to neutral for me. Sadly, the Lilica stick is really light, so sometimes it moves around too much when im trying to do stuff, which is the only downfall of the stick, imo.

[nekohime]

The only game I could ever play stick was Tekken 4, which I learned to play on the cabinet we had at the Pizza place I used to work at. Its been a very long time since I played any 2d fighter on stick, and that was more button mashing than playing.

Right now I'm actually re-training myself on pad because AH told me that my inputs sucked. Nothing like getting pwned because the 236D you throw to keep your opponent at a distance for a bit makes you fly right into them instead. Now I'm pressing the D-pad with the tip of my thumb and trying to pay more attention to exactly which of the 8 directions I'm pressing so that I hopefully don't accidentally hit up or something during 632146X.

[pbj_mixxa]

Here's a thought... QUIT LILICA! Problem solved... let's have some pie!

Oh wait... I hate pie. Let's have some mountain dew!

[NappyJin]

You just hate Lilica. Shame on you.:arazz:

[devildigimon]

okay...so which one of these arcana hoes is a lesbian...



i vote kira and kamui

saki would be a strong 3rd

[orka]

okay...so which one of these arcana hoes is a lesbian...



i vote kira and kamui

saki would be a strong 3rd

we all know saki is gay for heart. at any rate, arcana girls suffer variety of ailments and personal problems. just off the top of my head:

heart - mentally retarded
konoha - furry
kamui - randomly falls into coma
kira - jello fetish
yoriko - ugly
maori - overdeveloped breasts... nvm, that's a strength

[NappyJin]

we all know saki is gay for heart. at any rate, arcana girls suffer variety of ailments and personal problems. just off the top of my head:

heart - mentally retarded
konoha - furry
kamui - randomly falls into coma
kira - jello fetish
yoriko - ugly
maori - overdeveloped breasts... nvm, that's a strength

Those two are just...mean.

I have to say that I don't think Yoriko is ugly. @_@

[Tiggy]

Sabin - Before I started using my AH stick (and playing Arcana for that matter), I never really played stick. Strictly D-Pad. My experience lies within the Japanese equipment. Still, I agree with you on playing until it feels natural. To be honest, I still struggle with 421 motions :sad:

nekohime - I still play Melty and GGXXAC strictly on Pad, cause I can't get 421 motions to come out on stick for some reason :shake: And that 236D is a beast. I can't count how many times I manage to do that in training mode alone...

orka - It's sad really, but I haven't really touched my Wii in what seems like forever. Brawl and Mario Kart have been calling to me, but I haven't been listening :razz:

HeartNana - I do the same thing when I do FS too. I am just having a serious problem doing it facing left for some reason. I'm gonna hit up DAT training mode and perfect it though.

pbj_mixxa - The thought of quitting Lilica had crossed my mind. But the smile on Lilica's face on my stick would turn into a frown if I did that. BTW my Gier Heart is pretty good. You should check her out sometime :lovin:

NappyJin - If you talk to Byrdo (the maker of the stick), he'd probably be more than willing to make you one. Before HeartNana sold me his, Byrdo made me an offer to make another one for about $275. The guy is nice and very approachable. Try it out if you have the money and really want one that badly, as I did.

devildigimon - Man, you're off topic :rofl: I vote Saki, cause orka once called her "ice cold bitch". Going off topic, who do you use in IcrAMP? Suika is pretty cool.

Konoha and Mei-Fang fiyah ball loops FTW
Heh....I might pick them in the SB3 tourney.....

[nekohime]

In all honesty I'd like to get a good stick, maybe a HRAP or some such. I'm just not sure how much longer I'll be using my PS2 for fighters. Obviously I'll be playing AH with it but if AH2 (the only other fighter I really want right now) comes out for PS3 or 360 I'd rather save the money and get a stick for that.

As for my vote, I'll go with Mildred since she keeps Fiona awfully close.

[NappyJin]

I only play on pad since I'm a broke-ass. I have a stick, but it's in pieces at the moment, due to the fact that I'm too lazy to put it back together.

Eventually, I plan to switch over to stick, just because I'm tired of replacing pads and it's damn near impossible.

[nekohime]

Replacing pads does get annoying. I had to buy a new PS2 controller a few months ago when I put in SCIII and realized that down on the D-pad didn't work anymore. Are sticks easier to repair, like replacing worn out buttons and such?

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Luigi-Bo, last time I checked, you don't even play this game. Or you did for like, a week and quit...


Just wondering why?


GET ON DA MIC.

Yea, I played for like a week. I didn't quit, I just had no motivation to play since SB2 is all. Getting raped by sabin at MWC made me wanna leard 2 play though.:rofl:

Finally attempted the Mei-Fang and Konoha fire ball loops, courtesy of XAQshinor and JustinW match vids :bgrin:

After working out quirks in my execution, I was able to do Mei-Fang's after about 40 minutes. Konoha's is a little trickier with the IAD timing to get the opponent at the right height for the 623B reset. I managed to do it about twice now, but I am looking to see if there are any other enders for Konoha's fire ball loop other than j.A > j.236A.

I need to come back to Lilica later. I can't do anything with her ATM. :sad:

What IS Fang's fireball loop. I saw it in one of those matches you sent me, but forgot how it goes.

Right now I can do:

combo into 214+ab, hc after launch. jb, fireball, jb, fireball, jc. Then I don't know what to do after that.


Also, can someone help me understand homing guage management?

I noticed today that if you use homing guage for flying around, it recovers A LOT faster than if u use it in combos. Like should work my combos around my homing guage to make sure I always have at least 1 guage or something?

[NappyJin]

Replacing pads does get annoying. I had to buy a new PS2 controller a few months ago when I put in SCIII and realized that down on the D-pad didn't work anymore. Are sticks easier to repair, like replacing worn out buttons and such?

I wouldn't know...I've become such a cheapskate I've taken to replacing parts in my pad when I can't find a new one.

[Tiggy]

Yea, I played for like a week. I didn't quit, I just had no motivation to play since SB2 is all. Getting raped by sabin at MWC made me wanna leard 2 play though.:rofl:



What IS Fang's fireball loop. I saw it in one of those matches you sent me, but forgot how it goes.

Right now I can do:

combo into 214+ab, hc after launch. jb, fireball, jb, fireball, jc. Then I don't know what to do after that.


Also, can someone help me understand homing guage management?

I noticed today that if you use homing guage for flying around, it recovers A LOT faster than if u use it in combos. Like should work my combos around my homing guage to make sure I always have at least 1 guage or something?

Finally, some gameplay questions that I can answer!!!!

For the Mei-Fang fiyah ball loop:

214A+B > 8HC after launch > j.B > 236D > j.B > 236D > j.C > 6HC > j.A > dj.A dj.B > 236D > dj.B > 236D > dj.C > 41236XX

-When you do the first j.B > 236D, make sure Mei-Fang is under the opponent, not at the same height as them
-The XX at the end means either A, B, or C version works just fine
-As for the HC after the 214A+B launch, I believe you could alternatively do 5HC, but I always do 8HC
-Look at the part in bold; don't rush doing this part. Time the hits so that Mei-Fang's height is correct for the last two 236D hits
-You could also start the fiyah ball loop off of a charged 3C for even more damage...meaning you don't even need a super to do the loop

The homing guage fills quicker if you use it outside of a combo, yes. If you hit an opponent (even if they block), and then use Homing, it will put an X over the bar. Technically speaking, you just used that homing for a combo. But there are obviously other uses too. Using homing while blocking will also put an X over the bar. Also, depending on what Arcana you use, the X'ed out bar will refill differently. Love and wind refill among the quickest, and Time refills the slowest.

[Bill307]

Finally attempted the Mei-Fang and Konoha fire ball loops, courtesy of XAQshinor and JustinW match vids :bgrin:

After working out quirks in my execution, I was able to do Mei-Fang's after about 40 minutes. Konoha's is a little trickier with the IAD timing to get the opponent at the right height for the 623B reset. I managed to do it about twice now, but I am looking to see if there are any other enders for Konoha's fire ball loop other than j.A > j.236A.
Out of curiosity, what combo are you doing for Konoha's fireball loop?

I tried learning how to do a fireball loop after 3C in the corner. Here's the made-up combo that I ended up doing:
3C > 5[D] > (as low as possible) j.B 236D > j.B 236D > j.B > 6D > j.A dj.C 236D > dj.B 236D > dj.B 632146D > dash > dj.2C

(2 homings; 1 super; damage is over 10,000)

What I really need to learn is how to combo into it starting from 2A 2B. I found I can combo into 3C only if the combo starts at point-blank range, which isn't very reliable.


My vote goes to Heart, because of her dialog with Saki. Saki, what's wrong? Why won't you talk to me? I thought we were friends? Do you hate me? etc. And yeah, Heart is definitely retarded. :razz:

[orka]

best konoha fireball loop that i know you can do off corner fire 3[c] with one homing bar is:

j.b > j.c > 236d > j.b > 236d > j.b > jc > j.b > j.2c

it's very unstable, however... and people are better off doing just j.c (which is still kind of unstable) or j.b before the first fireball

also if you want 1,000+ off 3c, i think you're just better off doing j.a > j.b > j.c > 632146d > air dash > konoha otoshi since it only costs one homing bar and one super bar (plus oki)

[Bill307]

The homing guage fills quicker if you use it outside of a combo, yes. If you hit an opponent (even if they block), and then use Homing, it will put an X over the bar. Technically speaking, you just used that homing for a combo. But there are obviously other uses too. Using homing while blocking will also put an X over the bar. Also, depending on what Arcana you use, the X'ed out bar will refill differently. Love and wind refill among the quickest, and Time refills the slowest.
Quick note: if you use a homing cancel during a combo (i.e. using homing to cancel a move), then your next hit will reset the opponent's "untechability" time. If you use a homing but it's not a homing cancel, then this doesn't apply. (Also, I don't think this applies in AH2 at all.)

In other words, in terms of when the opponent can tech out of your combo, hitting them after a homing cancel is like starting a new combo.


best konoha fireball loop that i know you can do off corner fire 3[c] with one homing bar is:

j.b > j.c > 236d > j.b > 236d > j.b > jc > j.b > j.2c

it's very unstable, however... and people are better off doing just j.c (which is still kind of unstable) or j.b before the first fireball

also if you want 1,000+ off 3c, i think you're just better off doing j.a > j.b > j.c > 632146d > air dash > konoha otoshi since it only costs one homing bar and one super bar (plus oki)
O_O

This is why made-up combos are bad, haha. Thanks, I'll give that a try. (And I won't confuse jc with j.c this time. <_< )

"Konoha Otoshi". So that's what Konoha says when she does her [2]8A+B super.

[orka]

yea, ah2 apparently changed the amount of untechability time after homing cancel to a lesser amount... and have it scale more as they are performed later in the combo

it was a really good change, imo

some chars still have long ass combos regardless tho lol

O_O

This is why made-up combos are bad, haha. Thanks, I'll give that a try. (And I won't confuse jc with j.c this time. <_< )

"Konoha Otoshi". So that's what Konoha says when she does her [2]8A+B super.

well, i made up that combo too so dunno. :/

and shit... i meant "izuna otoshi"... i'm a dumbass

[Tiggy]

Out of curiosity, what combo are you doing for Konoha's fireball loop?

I tried learning how to do a fireball loop after 3C in the corner. Here's the made-up combo that I ended up doing:
3C > 5[D] > (as low as possible) j.B 236D > j.B 236D > j.B > 6D > j.A dj.C 236D > dj.B 236D > dj.B 632146D > dash > dj.2C

(2 homings; 1 super; damage is over 10,000)

best konoha fireball loop that i know you can do off corner fire 3[c] with one homing bar is:

j.b > j.c > 236d > j.b > 236d > j.b > jc > j.b > j.2c

it's very unstable, however... and people are better off doing just j.c (which is still kind of unstable) or j.b before the first fireball

also if you want 1,000+ off 3c, i think you're just better off doing j.a > j.b > j.c > 632146d > air dash > konoha otoshi since it only costs one homing bar and one super bar (plus oki)


Oh wow...I didn't try it off of 3C. I'll have to look at it to know how to do it...I don't know all of Konoha's normals off the top of my head. The one I did was the one Justin Wong used on HeartNana at MWC in the AH1 top 4 finals:

2A 2B 2C > 423A > 6HC > 5A 5B > IAD > j.B > 236D > j.B > 236D > j.B > land > 423B > 6HC > 5A 5B > IAD > j.B > 236D > j.B > 236D > j.A > 236A

It does about 9000 dmg or something like that. It's close to half life which is good for what it's worth. The part in bold is the hardest part IMO. You have to be at the right height starting out for this to even connect. The 423B reset can be a 423A I believe. It didn't take too long for me to pull this one off either, but I didn't get it a whole bunch while practicing it.

I might have to change my Wind Konoha into a Fiyah Konoha....and I don't even like Konoha.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Thanks Tiggy, I had trouble with the homing part of the second rep. Good to know I figured out half of it on my own. Now to master the ground loop.:bluu:

[Tiggy]

Thanks Tiggy, I had trouble with the homing part of the second rep. Good to know I figured out half of it on my own. Now to master the ground loop.:bluu:

np man. Yeah, it is good you figured out half of it by yourself. For me, it was 100% video. I can't figure anything out on my own in a fighting game. As far as the ground loop goes, I have to do a generic version of it, since I haven't bothered to memorize the variants. They're just a tad bit harder IMO.

Good luck :tup:

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Yea, I always dick around and find out stuff on my own before I go to forums/vids. I remember stuff a lot better that way. I think this is the reason I can pick up any fighter and figure stuff out within a couple matches. Getting good is the hard part.:sweat:

[nekohime]

I haven't seen a whole lot of videos for Fiona so I mess around a lot to find new things too. After some experimenting I finally realized just how useful the fire super (632146D) can be. At first I was just doing:

fire super > 214A+B

because it's an easy 7645 but then I realized the timing was almost perfect for charged 3C. So I tried:

fire super, charged 3C, HC, j.A, J.B, 214B

for 7782 with only 1 super meter instead of two which was very nice. Also it seems that even if they block fire super there's still a very high chance of landing the charged 3C and the rest of the combo for 6417 plus the chip damage from the fire super, which comes out to almost exactly the same damage as when fire super hits. Also, ending air combos with 214B (I prefer B because it seems to hit more often) puts Fiona in a very nice position for wake up games.

[Capps Indigo]

Hello, youtube uploader has finally gotten around to uploading some of the arcana 1 vids. they should continue uploading and will all be up relatively soon. as long as the uploader doesnt get tired and take a break again. =P

in any case, watch the vids!! and post comments plzzz, or discuss the vids in general. it lets me know that it was worth doing the vids in the first place.


Arcana Heart (1)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - Sp00ky (Sa) pbj_mixxa (Sa/He) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qehd4wcO9Sc)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - meta (Lie) v DS (Lil) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulVmUZrl0SQ)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - Sabin (Ka) v orka (Ma) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oolGBB0aAJo)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - Fubarduck (Yo) v DS (Lil) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bqy6WtSItU)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - orka (Fi) v Tiggy (Lil) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI3GUGEvcTo)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - Necrosis (Ko) v meta (Lie) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LXBA6FqO4)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - orka (Fi/Ma) v Necrosis (Ko) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH8_NKw7ma0)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - Noel (Lie/Ka) v floe (Ka) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS3nRFvZhZ8)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - orka (Ma) v Capps (He) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flic360nfSE)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - Noel v Sabin (Part of Round Robin) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=722IkWisDzY)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - NappyJin (Lil) v Fubarduck (Yo) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z72C9_gjT1E)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - Noel (Me/Fi) v Sabin (He/Ka) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIGqkGRnwu8)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - HeartNana (Lil) v Sabin (Ka) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvDznU4j-bg)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - HeartNana (Lil) v Capps (He) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebDAxJifYc)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart - HeartNana (Lil) v Noel (Ka/Me) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxP26_79Nw8)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart WinF- JustinW(Ko/Ka) v Sabin(Ka) -Pt1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm1cspqj90o)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart WinF- JustinW(Ka) v Sabin(Ka) -Pt2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsTEsJruztc)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart LosF- JustinW(Me/Ko) v HNana(Lil/Me) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2iJzXKp3mI)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart GFin- Sabin(Ka) v HeartNana (Lil)-Pt1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAYDk3p75hY)
MWC '08 - Arcana Heart GFin- Sabin(Ka) v HeartNana (Me)-Pt2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgEkA1ueGVY)



the rest of the vids (from the other tournies i recorded) are/will be listed in THIS POST (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5314713&postcount=262) in the MWC results thread. vids will be uploaded in the order shown in the post. i recommend everybody watch the mystery tourney vids. they are pretty epic/hilarious.


also, i posted full tourney results and placings for ah1, ah2 2v2, and ah2 1v1 over on guardcrush arcanahate forums: http://www.guardcrush.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1006

[Sabin]

Good shit Andy and thanks for your hard work

[pbj_mixxa]

I finally get to see what my play looks like from the third-person! Capps... you are GDLK!!!

[nekohime]

Thank you, Capps, I'll be watching all of these tomorrow.

[Tiggy]

I'm actually upset that he recorded my match with orka...I did terrible as usual. But whatever, thanks for all your hard work for recording at all Capps!

[HeartNana]

Thanks for uploading the vids, Andy! You're an asset to the arcana community!

[DS]

Burn the vids, Andy. :sad:

[orka]

gj, capps!

lol @ my vids... especially the one against arturo :shake:

i shoulda just played fiona all day

[Sp00ky]

Thanks Andy.

[deadontime101]

ok I'm sure this has already been said by someone but who are the hardest characters to play in this game?

I heard Maori and Lillica have the hardest combo's in the game...I'm thinking about maori...but the stuff in the vids look intimidating...oh well...I'll do it.

[chopa]

Fiona, Lillica, Liesolette

[pbj_mixxa]

Fiona, Lillica, Liesolette

He asked for "the hardest to play", not "the hardest to win with".

Hardest: Lieselotte, Lilica, Maori (in that order).


Again (as if it hasn't been said enough) play who you want to play.

[orka]

rob thinks maori is the hardest to use (he uses maori as sub). i don't play lieselotte or lilica so i can't comment on those two... but i think we can all agree that all three characters take more effort before you get to a decent level.

but maori's definitely harder to win with for sure, since she is in B- while lilica and liese are both top tier (well, liese is god tier to be exact).

maori's a good character but she also has a lot of stuff she has trouble dealing with, and has losing match-ups against everybody in A and S tiers except mei-fang.

[NappyJin]

Good shit on the videos, Capps. =)

WATERFALLSSSSS!!!!

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Why is Liese tops? I've never even seen anyone use her.:confused:

[Bill307]

Behold the pain of Lightning Lieselotte...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uu1HX5E0VtA - Danpu vs ASA (Bolt Kamui)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=2k-BvY_1bMQ - Ao vs ASA (Dark Kamui)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=jkzJtvwGRd4 - Yuripyon vs Dish Rag (Time Kamui)
Note the unblockable lightning setups in the corner.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=kK4wkbSSjTk - Danpu vs Y-Da (Bolt Kira)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=sE45oeLB3wg - Danpu vs Metal Slime (Metal Kira)
Can't do the same lightning setup on Kira due to wake-up 720 super. But she still gets rushed down to hell. :sad: (Somehow Metal Slime beat Yuripyon's Plant Liese (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=RtH_XIigmac) before this, though.)

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ii4hPSmmZH4 - Ao vs Ryo (Fire Maori)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=rghMQkmvfzs - Ao vs J (Fire Maori)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4IjtpQtlQ - Ao vs Ryo (Fire Maori)
Even with her sisters and her spinning top to kill the doll, Maori still gets crushed.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=YM1lBfSLZ2I - Ao vs Aoi (Fire Konoha)
The agile Konoha gets outfoxed.

[deadontime101]

Well actually I used to play this game a lot when it first came out...I used Maori but just as I was starting to get somewhat decent...I somehow lost interest in the game...but I will be playing AH2 though.

[Sabin]

man capps, your version of the mwc vids is jsut awesome simply because i can hear more of what noel is saying. i was too into the zone and blocking him out so i actually didnt hear 99% of what he was sayig. the most hilarious part is everytime i burst early, noel goes "arturo bursts early like a dumbfuck" and then i hit a combo right afterwards, lol. anyway, thx!

also the ending was priceless too

[Capps Indigo]

man capps, your version of the mwc vids is jsut awesome simply because i can hear more of what noel is saying. i was too into the zone and blocking him out so i actually didnt hear 99% of what he was sayig. the most hilarious part is everytime i burst early, noel goes "arturo bursts early like a dumbfuck" and then i hit a combo right afterwards, lol. anyway, thx!

also the ending was priceless too

lol, i totally agree. i just had to leave all that noel commentary in when i was editting, i think in pt2 of gfin. it was too good. i truly appreciate what noel brings to the arcana scene, its great.

[Bill307]

Guys, I got heartbroken tonight. :sad:

There's this girl "X" whom I started seeing last month. After some rough times with this other girl "Y" in May, I decided we weren't meant to be and moved on. X was much different. I was attracted to her because she seemed like a girl who could handle pressure much better than Y, and who had a great potential in her that surpassed anything Y was capable of.

Today, I decided to see Y again. Our passion was intense, but after some disappointments I felt that enough was enough: I chose to commit to X instead.

My good man "JW", after seeing my change of heart, advised against it. He'd spent a lot of time with X himself, and was definitely better with the ladies than me. But I was naive. I thought X and I were ready to take our relationship to the next level. And I felt that tonight would be the big night.

But X wasn't ready for that kind of commitment yet. She said we hadn't known each other long enough. Indeed, it was clear that I was rushing our relationship too quickly when I fucked up the Gier summon in EXACTLY the same was as Dish Rag this time, losing a round I would have won otherwise! :mad: Then I lost the 2nd round and was eliminated. After basically using Kira for the rest of the tournament, switching to Kamui for my last game was NOT a good idea. Not at all.

So now I've broken up with Kamui. I don't know when I'll see her again: perhaps after the pain has subsided. As for Kira, I hope she will forgive me and take me back. I've known her for much longer than Kamui and I should never have taken that longevity so lightly. :shake: Moreover, when Justin Wong gives you girl advice, you'd better fuckin' take it. :wink:


T9 AHF results are here: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5342826&amp;postcount=50 . Vids to come.

I can practically see Kira's angry face now, the one you get when you place 2nd in the high score rankings...

"What?! Third?! This is unacceptable!! You!! Try harder!!"

Yes Dr. Kira, I will. :sad:

[nekohime]

That's quite funny, Bill.

The good news is I finally got someone here to play AH with so I actually have a reason to learn new stuff and improve my game! :woot:

[orka]

arcana lulz

jajajajaj

[Frank the Tank]

Yo, Bill...Kira's moved on, man. I hate to be the one to tell you, but she's taken. Don't worry, though...you may find some crazy spinny robot to be with sometime in the near future.

[Bill307]

Yo, Bill...Kira's moved on, man. I hate to be the one to tell you, but she's taken. Don't worry, though...you may find some crazy spinny robot to be with sometime in the near future.
Mei-Fang? Ewww no way. Silicon FTL. :arazz:

Yeah well Kira may be yours for now, but she'll be back: she loves a man with a big jello dish. :razz:


Gonna get the T9 AHF vids up tomorrow, probably. Did all the 3s teams tonight.

[Gasaraki]

Mei-Fang? Ewww no way. Silicon FTL. :arazz:


This is just a guess, but I think he meant Cathy in AH2. The "spinning" part gives it away.

[Frank the Tank]

Mei-Fang? Ewww no way. Silicon FTL. :arazz:

Yeah well Kira may be yours for now, but she'll be back: she loves a man with a big jello dish. :razz:


Gonna get the T9 AHF vids up tomorrow, probably. Did all the 3s teams tonight.

I was referring more to Catherine. Hence the spinny part.

[Bill307]

Yeah I know. I was poking fun at the fact that you called her a robot. :P

[judge_rl]

So this is where SRK's AH thread has been hiding. Or maybe I'm just a tad slow on the navi-skills... :/ Good stuff here.

[H-F Blade]

Just wanted to see what's going down in this thread. I'm still kinda new to the game, only been playing for a few months. But I'm lucky to have several players nearby, White Rob especially since he knows so much about the game.

[Sabin]

Just wanted to see what's going down in this thread. I'm still kinda new to the game, only been playing for a few months. But I'm lucky to have several players nearby, White Rob especially since he knows so much about the game.

Are any of you guys going to Evo?

[H-F Blade]

Yup. My friend and I will most definitely be there and we're pretty eager to try out AH2 (Sp00ky's bringing it, right?). As for W.Rob, I'm not too sure. He said he really wanted to go and he gave it quite a bit of consideration but he never made it official. And to my knowledge he's not here on the boards all the time and he doesn't use anything like aim, msn, etc. D:

[Sabin]

Yup. My friend and I will most definitely be there and we're pretty eager to try out AH2 (Sp00ky's bringing it, right?). As for W.Rob, I'm not too sure. He said he really wanted to go and he gave it quite a bit of consideration but he never made it official. And to my knowledge he's not here on the boards all the time and he doesn't use anything like aim, msn, etc. D:


Due to the announcement of mb:AA as well as AH2: Sugoi, as well as me finding out that I cant get friday or monday off from work and would have to get to evo really late and leave early on Sunday, I have decided I am not going to make it to evolution this year in the interest of future endeavors.


If anyone feels that they would like a refund on their donation because they donated specifically for evo, please reply to this thread or pm me. you can also email me at victor (at) ehsj.net.


Yeah, looks like Sp00ky cant make it.. (tho its understandable) :sad:

I'd like to at least get a AHF tourney started at Evo though, but I don't know if anyone even cares enough to play in a AHF tourney at evo especially with all the other things going on.

[H-F Blade]

Ouch, there goes my only chance to play AH2 before it hits consoles. T_T But it can't be helped.

As for the AHF tourney, perhaps start a poll? I wouldn't mind entering considering I'm not participating in any of the main events and I'd like to get some matches with players outside of my circle. But there will be so many upcoming games that will be playable there so I can understand why it might be difficult.

[ThePunisherXBL]

I can't get Maori's BBC loop to work. I can't get the j.C to connect at all. In fact, I don't do combos worth a shit at all in this game.

[Master Chibi]

I'd like to at least get a AHF tourney started at Evo though, but I don't know if anyone even cares enough to play in a AHF tourney at evo especially with all the other things going on.

If you don't get anything set up noone else is going to bother man.

Just do it, unless you're not going to Evo.

:P

[DevilJin 01]

Better than nothing. My bro told me about this just now so yeah...if you don't do something now...then everyone will be playing SFIV or Tatsunoko instead.

Since I'm in this thread (and I really shouldn't be) what is the scene like for AH2 in the US? Is it just CTF and like random gatherings?

[Master Chibi]

Pretty much.

And some folks in Chi-town~

[Bill307]

I've uploaded all of the AHF tournament matches from T9 to this playlist, if anyone's interested.
http://ca.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9C888967F0D4E268

In other news, is anyone going to be playing this at Season's Beatings III? I see there's an AH2 tounrnament but nothing for AHF. AH2 is fun and all, but it's obviously not somehing I can be competitive in at the moment. In fact, to be honest, I'm actually much more hype for AHF right now. (Crazy, I know. :looney:)

[Tiggy]

I've uploaded all of the AHF tournament matches from T9 to this playlist, if anyone's interested.
http://ca.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9C888967F0D4E268

In other news, is anyone going to be playing this at Season's Beatings III? I see there's an AH2 tounrnament but nothing for AHF. AH2 is fun and all, but it's obviously not somehing I can be competitive in at the moment. In fact, to be honest, I'm actually much more hype for AHF right now. (Crazy, I know. :looney:)

You and me both Bill. You and me both.

I'll be there at SB3 in full force with my Lilica stick. If no one from the AH thread here goes, I'll be taking first since there's NO hype for this game here in Columbus. Or Ohio for that matter :sad:

[Bill307]

Well, from what I've heard, a *lot* of people from this topic and everywhere will probably be going to SB3: it has maximal HYPE. We just need to ask if we can run an AHF side tournament, I guess, and then we need a director.

Right now, I'm not sure if I'll be going. What would really turn me on would be an AHF tournament + AHF casuals for much of the day/night. Unfortunately, it seems like AHF is often the lowest priority when it comes to getting a TV and console at an event. :sad: Maybe if we organize a lot of $1 money matches in advance, we can argue that we need the TV and console for them. :razzy:


By the way, didn't you have Chickenfat and someone else nearby who used to play with you? o.Oa You guys have to apply dat peer pressure to get more people to play! E.g. I tried gently coaxing this one guy Yang to play, but without success. Then the other AHF player here goes to him and says, "Yang, stop being a pussy and learn Arcana Heart." And now he's learned. :lol:

We also taught this guy and his girlfriend how to play, and she was actually beating him more often than not with Kamui and later Maori. But then he started winning with Fiona and she got pissed at him for spamming 5C. :lol:

[Tiggy]

Well, from what I've heard, a *lot* of people from this topic and everywhere will probably be going to SB3: it has maximal HYPE. We just need to ask if we can run an AHF side tournament, I guess, and then we need a director.

Right now, I'm not sure if I'll be going. What would really turn me on would be an AHF tournament + AHF casuals for much of the day/night. Unfortunately, it seems like AHF is often the lowest priority when it comes to getting a TV and console at an event. :sad: Maybe if we organize a lot of $1 money matches in advance, we can argue that we need the TV and console for them. :razzy:


By the way, didn't you have Chickenfat and someone else nearby who used to play with you? o.Oa You guys have to apply dat peer pressure to get more people to play! E.g. I tried gently coaxing this one guy Yang to play, but without success. Then the other AHF player here goes to him and says, "Yang, stop being a pussy and learn Arcana Heart." And now he's learned. :lol:

We also taught this guy and his girlfriend how to play, and she was actually beating him more often than not with Kamui and later Maori. But then he started winning with Fiona and she got pissed at him for spamming 5C. :lol:

Yeah, chickenfat and my other friend have given me a lot of experience in the game. But chickenfat is getting ready to move out of state very soon, so now I'll only have one person to play against instead of two :sad: Like I said, no hype.

And about dat peer pressure....I DEFINITELY need to use that. I'm already having like a million set-ups planned for SB3 just with my equipment alone. I'm even planning on doing a money match in MBAC, and that isn't even planned as a side tourney. I wil make sure that AH has a set-up. I had one last year, but it was laggy. This year I have no excuse.

[Gasaraki]

What's SB3? I'm guesing it's not west coast =/

[Bill307]

SB3 = Season's Beatings 3 (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=155850)

Tiggy, does this mean you can guarantee a setup strictly for AHF? :amazed: That would be awesome if possible! :woot: I wanted to do the same at T9, and even had my own TV transported to the venue, which I never promised as equipment for the tournament because I was hoping to use it for mostly Arcana. But then some other TV bringers had to pull out at the last moment, and my TV went from being surplus to being necessary to finish the tournaments on-time. If it wasn't for my extra TV, I don't know if Arcana would've even gotten off the ground. :xeye: I guess it didn't help that I slept-in on the day of the Arcana tourney, either. :sweat: I wanted to get there early and wrestle my TV away for AHF casuals before the tournaments started running. :sad:

Anyway, if there's going to be AHF all day, then I'll try my best to attend.


Out of curiosity, how close do you live to the venue?

[Tiggy]

If I take the freeway, I'm only about 15 minutes from the venue. I've talked to fugee, the guy over the tournament planning, and he pretty much knows I'm hype for Arcana. He gave me my own set-up last year, and I'm more than willing he'll do the same this year.

It'd be awesome if you could show up :woot:

[Capps Indigo]

ill most likely be at sb3. ive been to just about every other tourney held at this location and had a great time every time i went. the tourney is still 2.5 months away, and im sure more ppl will speak up the closer we get to tourney time. this tourney is really well run, has a great venue, and is usually really hype (for one thing or another). i encourage everyone to make it out. and i wouldnt mind running the brackets for ahf and ah2 (if they both happen).

[Frank the Tank]

Are any of you guys going to Evo?

I'm going. If there's an AHF tourney I'll play in it, as the only "official" Evo tourney I'm playing in is 3S, and I don't much care about any of the exhibition games outside of the latest STHD.

[NappyJin]

If all goes well, I'll be at SB3. =3

[StyleTime]

You all may already know of this, but just in case. Impact Clash II will be featuring Arcana Heart. It was fun last time, but I'm hoping more Arcana Heart players show up and play this time. Here's the link to the thread.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=159463

[Tiggy]

You all may already know of this, but just in case. Impact Clash II will be featuring Arcana Heart. It was fun last time, but I'm hoping more Arcana Heart players show up and play this time. Here's the link to the thread.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=159463

Only two people signed up for Arcana :sad:

[Sabin]

Hey guys:

Arcana Heart FULL! Side tourney at Evolution 2008 (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=5375092#post5375092)

So, what's really good? :lovin:

[Gasaraki]

I wish I had time/money to go to Evo but that's a no for me =/

[H-F Blade]

Count me in. Maybe the thread should list everyone who will participate just to get a rough estimate for the number of entrants.

[Tiggy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipfbart53jY

This offends me.....
Both as an Arcana Heart player and a black person.
:shake:
COME ON PEOPLE, I thought we crossed that bridge already :mad:
Then again, it's 2008. People don't give a fuck :shake:

When you go to Japan Sabin, please take me with you. I need sum Dat Japan experience! On a serious note, good stuff on getting a tourney started for AH at EVO.

[dj_de]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipfbart53jY
It's ok, they're getting excited by watching 2 horrid players.

I have a quick Maori question, what's the exact spacing I should be using for the 22A when I'm trying to do the loop combo? It seems like I need to aim for the correct spot so the other person gets brought down slower. I've noticed a few times when I hit like the legs of a character it seems to work, but if I hit dead center they just get sent flying down instead.

[HeartNana]

Most of the time you should use 22B.

Aside from that, it depends on:
-What whip was used, there's different timing depending on whether you used A whip, B whip, or C whip (tho B whip and C whip timing is pretty close)
-If you're against a wall or not
and most importantly
-What character you're playing against

[StyleTime]

Only two people signed up for Arcana :sad:
There will be more. People are just too lazy to sign up super early...myself included. :sweat: We had several show up to the last tournament. I'm thinking it'll be more this time. There were around 15-20 people who played the game, but a lot them were unaware it was going to be played. That's why I'm trying to get the word out. lol It seems like pre-regs increase the closer the event date gets. It's gotten to 4 after they add me.

[orka]

I have a quick Maori question, what's the exact spacing I should be using for the 22A when I'm trying to do the loop combo? It seems like I need to aim for the correct spot so the other person gets brought down slower. I've noticed a few times when I hit like the legs of a character it seems to work, but if I hit dead center they just get sent flying down instead.

There are pretty much 3 different timings to go into the BBC loop mid-screen:

Type A - Heart, Saki, Kamui, Mei-Fang, Yoriko, Fiona, Maori
Type B - Lilica, Konoha, Kira
Type C - Lieselotte

Type A


Off 623A: 6HC > 5C (whiff) > 22A. 5C is used to brake the homing cancel. The timing is somewhat generous. You can do a 22B instead as well, but 22A will keep the opponent closer to Maori after clean-hit bounce.
Off 623B/C: 6HC > dash > 22B > 3A. You hold onto the D button for a instant, then dash immediately. Tsuzune won't do enough hits to induce a clean-hit bounce, so you will need to relaunch with 3A into the loop. 5A can work as well, but 3A is much better since it pulls the opponent into Maori.

Type B


Off 623A: 6HC > 5C (whiff) > 22A. Same as Type A, except you need to 5C much earlier. Timing for Lilica is slightly tighter than Kira and Konoha.

Type C


Off 623A: 6HC > 5C (whiff) > 22A > dash > 5B. Due to her hitbox, Lieselotte cannot be clean-hit. The player needs to brake the 6HC immediately, 22A, then dash as soon as Maori recovers from the motion. She should be able to relaunch Lieselotte with 5B before she hits the ground if the player times everything correctly.


I could try to explain how things change in the corner, but it's kind of a pain... Maybe I'll post later. You should try to get decent at her mid-screen loops first anyway.

Also, take note that none of the above will work if you're using Time or Earth. You can actually loop Type A characters off 623A by using 22B instead, but there's not much point in practicing since you will most likely never use Earth with Maori anyway. Time requires a significantly different execution pattern to go into the BBC loop. I can explain it later if you really want to hear it, but they're really inconsistent and Time is not a very good Arcana for Maori in Ver B.

[danomighty]

can the emo goth lady girl chick heal her assist puppet sister or 3 hits and it's over for her? :confused:

[Saotome Kaneda]

can the emo goth lady girl chick heal her assist puppet sister or 3 hits and it's over for her? :confused:
If the doll is "killed" she has to manually go over and pick her up.

[danomighty]

i tried? what do I have to type to put her back in the suitcase when she dies?

[Bill307]

i tried? what do I have to type to put her back in the suitcase when she dies?
First, move Lieselotte to the doll's location. Put her right over top of the doll. Then do 236[x] (x = A or B or C) and hold onto the button until Lieselotte picks up the doll. If she just stands there with her hand to her face and the doll doesn't get up, then you need to adjust her position.

[AlterGenesis]

I don't follow the Arcana scene too much, but for any new aspiring (Fire) Fiona players (who don't like doing OTG C combos all the time :rofl:) Here are some combos that I personally use and experimented with during casuals in the past. If this was posted before, my