The New Arcana HYPE Thread - Asians split pot at NEC, Sabin allows it by no showing

[purifyweirdsoul]

so where's this guy who recorded casuals and not the freaking tournament?

i want vidz

This. Somebody had like 15 matches of me/White Rob on a tape.

Man, fuck combos. I use two things to win with Fiona: j.B and j.2C, which hits all of the people who are like MUST DO COMBO I LEARNED OFF INTERNET LOLOLO out of the air :lol:

[Sabin]

This. Somebody had like 15 matches of me/White Rob on a tape.

Man, fuck combos. I use two things to win with Fiona: j.B and j.2C, which hits all of the people who are like MUST DO COMBO I LEARNED OFF INTERNET LOLOLO out of the air :lol:

thats cause me and you play very similar and you actually have good fundamentals in games in general...you jus tmake rookie mistakes in arcana cause you dont have anyone to play against, which unforunately cant be helped unless you get other ppl to play with you

but yeah this game is kind of deciving in that aspect...despite being a combo heavy game, this game stresses fundamentals just like other games in order to get that initial hit (gotta have a deep knowledge of clash system.) combos are important but knowing the clash system is that much more important imo

[Tiggy]

That might be why I haven't seen a time Fiona yet.

Back to my Heart practice, I'm still having trouble with those IAD loops. I'm pretty sure it's 2A, 2B, 2C, 236A, 6HC, A, 6B, IAD, j,A, j.C, 5C (loop IAD j.A, j.C, 5C, a couple times) and then either a finisher or 236A, 6HC to reset. Now I can get the initial IAD j.A, J.C, 5C to hit but after that is a mess. I either hit with the second IAD j.A but whiff j.C or they are simply to far away to hit with the second IAD. If it would help to see where I'm messing up I can post a video of it.

I think your problem is that you're not dashing forward after the j.A j.C. Now someone correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not good with Heart's air combo enders:

2ABC > 236A > 6HC > 5A 6B > IAD > j.A j.C > dash forward > 5C > IAD > j.A j.C > dash forward > 5C > IAD > j.A j.C > dash forward > 5A > j.A j.B j.4B > dj.B dj.2C

Also, I had a gameplay question for meta, since no one else plays Liese :arazz:
During the midscreen loop, I sometimes miss the opponent, whether it be the 5B doll swipe relaunch or Liese j.A. Is it because I sometimes forget to hold 6 while I'm doing the air strings? I've gotten to the end of the midscreen loop once, but even then I messed it up.

[meta]

I think your problem is that you're not dashing forward after the j.A j.C. Now someone correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not good with Heart's air combo enders:

2ABC > 236A > 6HC > 5A 6B > IAD > j.A j.C > dash forward > 5C > IAD > j.A j.C > dash forward > 5C > IAD > j.A j.C > dash forward > 5A > j.A j.B j.4B > dj.B dj.2C

Also, I had a gameplay question for meta, since no one else plays Liese :arazz:
During the midscreen loop, I sometimes miss the opponent, whether it be the 5B doll swipe relaunch or Liese j.A. Is it because I sometimes forget to hold 6 while I'm doing the air strings? I've gotten to the end of the midscreen loop once, but even then I messed it up.

You generally need to be holding 6 pretty much the whole time. The timing for the 5b doll swipe is different depending on the height where you j.2c, in which case there's 2 possibilities where it hits. The swipe has to The opponent at the peak of the doll hit, in which case you land then j.ab2c again. If you do it too late, the opponent doesn't get launched high enough and you have to land, dash forward 5a, j.a again. Also if you doll is too far ahead on the screen, your opponent won't get launched as high either, in which case you can probably adjust by not holding 6 the whole time. If your doll is too far back, then you can probably j.a double jump j.a to give it time to catch up. The timing and positioning becomes second nature after you play with her for a while.

[Tiggy]

...why do I always wanna play the hard characters? Thanks for the info though, I'll have to hardbody that in training mode.

Also, if you and orka pick Fiona in tourney at SB3 if there's no AH2, then I'll be :sad:
Seriously.

[nekohime]

I think your problem is that you're not dashing forward after the j.A j.C. Now someone correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not good with Heart's air combo enders:

2ABC > 236A > 6HC > 5A 6B > IAD > j.A j.C > dash forward > 5C > IAD > j.A j.C > dash forward > 5C > IAD > j.A j.C > dash forward > 5A > j.A j.B j.4B > dj.B dj.2C

There's a dash between j.C and and 5C!? Damn I would never have noticed that from the vids, All I see is a very slight delay between those and I attributed her moving forward to the step she does during the 5C animation. That should help, thanks man.

no no theres actually a guaranteed setup...ive been trying to use the search function on this thread for time fiona, but it seems to not fuckin work properly, grr....will have to inform wiz. i remember someone doing it to me in akiba last year, but i cant remember the exact notation. after grand divide or kartov roof, you have to do something like... 5a or 5b? dont remember jb, superdelayed jc., into her standard aircombo BNB into qcf c finisher?, and they will freeze when they get up. you can keep repeating this, ive had it done to me.

tried to find a video, but no luck

if you want to play fiona with minimal iads and lookin extremely sloppy, yet effective, play like this guy! this is probably my favorite fiona match lol i give him a thumbs up cause i hate flashy, long iadish combos as well

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=uVx8nlRUFYg
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=wN8qoicQEYE

Activate Gier summon into Excalibur, that was beautiful. When they change back after Gier summon are they always in the air? I remember something like that was mentioned in the AH2 thread but is that guaranteed in AH1 as well?

[AlterGenesis]

There's a dash between j.C and and 5C!? Damn I would never have noticed that from the vids, All I see is a very slight delay between those and I attributed her moving forward to the step she does during the 5C animation. That should help, thanks man.

The best way to know you're doing it right it to pick the Bolt Arcana and if you get the lighting dash sound and then do C, you're probably going to be able to do it right. Remember to let the stick return to the neutral (if you're using d-pad it doesn't matter) or else you'll do her command normal and that shit is very annoying.

[orka]

Also, if you and orka pick Fiona in tourney at SB3 if there's no AH2, then I'll be :sad:
Seriously.

The only reason I turtled like crazy was because I know that match-up really well from playing against Rob. Fiona pretty much gets outpoked and lose to clashes constantly against Lilica.

One heel-kick loop could mean game over for me, so I just sat tight and zoned out with Gier and waited for you to come. I figured I could win if you're not used to playing against Fiona or Fiona Gier shenanigans in general.

You should just rushed me down in general. I didn't really need to risk anything as long as my health stayed above yours.

[Tiggy]

The only reason I turtled like crazy was because I know that match-up really well from playing against Rob. Fiona pretty much gets outpoked and lose to clashes constantly against Lilica.

One heel-kick loop could mean game over for me, so I just sat tight and zoned out with Gier and waited for you to come. I figured I could win if you're not used to playing against Fiona or Fiona Gier shenanigans in general.

You should just rushed me down in general. I didn't really need to risk anything as long as my health stayed above yours.

For those of you reading this who don't know what orka is talking about, here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI3GUGEvcTo

I have no hard fellings towards you for making me look like a fool in that match orka...I just don't want you and meta to pick Fiona when you guys could be picking.....say......Lieselotte and Maori. Hmmmm? My reason is because I can play Fiona. I CAN'T play Liese and Maori, although I try. Therefore DON'T PICK FIONA IN TOURNEY PLAY. Plz.

And speaking of heel kick loop...I can't do it anymore :sad: You saw me drop it in the first match on the vid there. I know that the trick to doing it is to let the stick reset to neutral before doing the next 236 motion. But I end up either super jumping or some other random move, or I just do the 236 A~c too late and the oppoent ends up teching.

What that basically means is that I need to step my game up.

[meta]

...why do I always wanna play the hard characters? Thanks for the info though, I'll have to hardbody that in training mode.

Also, if you and orka pick Fiona in tourney at SB3 if there's no AH2, then I'll be :sad:
Seriously.

Cuz hard to learn characters tend to be more fun to play. Like, Liese is 20x harder to play in AH2, but I think she's also 20x more fun.

Why so sad?

[Tiggy]

Why so sad?

I have no hard fellings towards you for making me look like a fool in that match orka...I just don't want you and meta to pick Fiona when you guys could be picking.....say......Lieselotte and Maori. Hmmmm? My reason is because I can play Fiona. I CAN'T play Liese and Maori, although I try. Therefore DON'T PICK FIONA IN TOURNEY PLAY. Plz.

"Why so sad?" he says...lol
But yeah, there's your reason why I'm :sad: You can obviously play who ya want, but for me Fiona seems like the easy way out. Like, I'll pick her when I get tired of messing up stuff with Lilica and I want DAT W. But even when I win with Fiona I feel empty inside.....I guess that's the side effect of character love :rofl:

[meta]

Man, I totally missed your reply. Oops.

I like playing Fiona over my Liese sometimes just because I have to think less. They play completely different and there's some things that Fiona can do that Liese can't and vise-versa. I have to admit though that my Liese is pretty crappy now.

I like my FRX Liese over my MWC Liese. I have the problem of doing the wrong orbs now in AH1 since they're all changed from AH1 to AH2 (in a good way). And I just got waaaay used to it after playing AH2. Like if you see the vids of me from mwc, Every single time I do Liese's 22orb, I meant to do her 646 orb. And I also get her 63214orb when I really mean to do her 214orbs. The 63214orb is really shitty, and since 63214orb is now 22c orb in AH2, the 63214orb motion registers now as the 214orb motion (I do half circle back since it's easier to do after dashing forward instead of doing like 66 5 214). Yeah, those mistakes happen way too often when I play Liese, and I do them subsonsciously and don't realize it until I see that the doll is doing the wrong thing on the screen.

Liese has my love, but Fiona gets some too. It's dem giant gloves and boots.

[nekohime]

The best way to know you're doing it right it to pick the Bolt Arcana and if you get the lighting dash sound and then do C, you're probably going to be able to do it right. Remember to let the stick return to the neutral (if you're using d-pad it doesn't matter) or else you'll do her command normal and that shit is very annoying.

I'm playing on pad now but I'll be sure to remember that when I get a stick.

The only reason I turtled like crazy was because I know that match-up really well from playing against Rob. Fiona pretty much gets outpoked and lose to clashes constantly against Lilica.


I know what you mean, the only person I really get to play with uses time Lilica. He doesn't have her time combo down yet but with Fiona I've still got to watch out for pokes and clashes cause those heel kicks hurt.


Fiona gets some too. It's dem giant gloves and boots.

Love those gloves and boots. And the giant pocket watch. :lovin:

[Bill307]

Tiggy: would you be interested in MMing my Fiona for fun at SBIII? :razzy: I used to find Fiona boring, but then I started learning how to be really gay with her, and now she's actually pretty fun. ^^

By the way, are you still practicing Kira? We could do a reverse-character match: my Lilica vs your Kira. I can sort of do her heel drop loop and tornado edge loop at the moment.


I just checked the date of my fall convocation: it's on the 25th, so I should be good to go for SBIII. :smile: Just need to arrange for a ride, now.

[someAzNdude]

Fiona's actual time loop:

2A 2B 236A xx 236236D 623A HC4 5B jB delay jC land sjA jB djB djC 214C (Opponent should freeze after they get up)


I really hope that I can make it to SB3

[orka]

Bah, so it uses the j.B > delay j.C combo. The timing and spacing for those are actually pretty tight.

[Master Chibi]

Well here' s one vid of me in casuals (the first time I sat down the play if I'm not mistaken).

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8f528NH7g

[mrgameandbox]

Well here' s one vid of me in casuals (the first time I sat down the play if I'm not mistaken).

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8f528NH7g

http://tw.youtube.com/user/gameandbox

My YouTube channel will be updated with all of your EVO World Finals CASUALS Arcana Heart video needs and wants. I will go ahead and put you down as that Fiona then. Great match Master Chibi!

[Tiggy]

Man, I totally missed your reply. Oops.

I like playing Fiona over my Liese sometimes just because I have to think less. They play completely different and there's some things that Fiona can do that Liese can't and vise-versa. I have to admit though that my Liese is pretty crappy now.

I like my FRX Liese over my MWC Liese. I have the problem of doing the wrong orbs now in AH1 since they're all changed from AH1 to AH2 (in a good way). And I just got waaaay used to it after playing AH2. Like if you see the vids of me from mwc, Every single time I do Liese's 22orb, I meant to do her 646 orb. And I also get her 63214orb when I really mean to do her 214orbs. The 63214orb is really shitty, and since 63214orb is now 22c orb in AH2, the 63214orb motion registers now as the 214orb motion (I do half circle back since it's easier to do after dashing forward instead of doing like 66 5 214). Yeah, those mistakes happen way too often when I play Liese, and I do them subsonsciously and don't realize it until I see that the doll is doing the wrong thing on the screen.

Liese has my love, but Fiona gets some too. It's dem giant gloves and boots.

....yeah. About half of those notations are gibberish to me.
Those giant gloves and boots look so dorky. lol

I know what you mean, the only person I really get to play with uses time Lilica. He doesn't have her time combo down yet but with Fiona I've still got to watch out for pokes and clashes cause those heel kicks hurt.

I give your friend props for playing with that combination. I have been practicing Time Lilica since late March, and I have yet to do one legitimate time loop. Granted I've come close, but nope, no loop yet :sad:


Tiggy: would you be interested in MMing my Fiona for fun at SBIII? :razzy: I used to find Fiona boring, but then I started learning how to be really gay with her, and now she's actually pretty fun. ^^

By the way, are you still practicing Kira? We could do a reverse-character match: my Lilica vs your Kira. I can sort of do her heel drop loop and tornado edge loop at the moment.

You can pick Fiona if you want :bluu: We can do that MM. Sad to say I haven't been practicing Kira. I only know one combo, and I fail to do it in matches because of a lack of character experience. I dare not use her at SB3.

I really hope that I can make it to SB3

:pray:

You're one of the few AH OGs I haven't met yet. It'd be so great if you could make it!

Well here' s one vid of me in casuals (the first time I sat down the play if I'm not mistaken).

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8f528NH7g

Man Chibi...your Fiona is solid. Looked like the Mei-Fang player was having trouble closing in. lol

[orka]

Also... I agree with meta. There's a lot less micro management involved with Fiona. But that's also because she can do so little.

I still think that Maori takes the most effort overall to play in AH1 (when you consider both technicality and her tier rank). But you know, this comes from a Maori player. :wgrin:

[nekohime]

I give your friend props for playing with that combination. I have been practicing Time Lilica since late March, and I have yet to do one legitimate time loop. Granted I've come close, but nope, no loop yet :sad:

I definitely give him props for picking a much harder character to learn first than I did. Although I think he picked Time because when we were first starting I showed him a couple of HeartNana's match vids and he probably assumed time was the best arcana for her based on those. As far as I know he hasn't been able to do a time loop either, he mostly uses the arcana for for 6D and charged 6C and does normal heel kick loops and air combos.

On a different note, does anyone else here play on pad? On mine that there seems to be a slight delay between letting go of a direction and it registering neutral. I noticed it while practicing 66 5C for the IAD loop I've been going on about the past couple of days. I know for a fact I'm letting go of 6 before before 5C but it likes to register 6C instead. If I slow down just a tad I get 5C but she moves forward too much for the combo to work. I've been able to get what looks like the proper timing (with lightning arcana I hear the spark but can't actually see her dash) by doing 66 4C, but getting my thumb to press 4 in between 66 and IAD is not fun. I could probably make it work eventually after a few days of practice, but between that and a couple other things (like trying to do any sort of combo with just my thumb while holding gier setup) I'm probably going to break down and start learning stick.

[Tiggy]

I've kept quiet about it until now, but it's time to unveil it. Those of you who will be attending Season's Beatings 3 will get treated to the "Arcana Heart Remix Project" courtesy of Tiggy and poon. I supplied the tracks while poon did.....everything else. :rofl:

Here are some teasers for ya:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXpI-Tw0958
poon (Yoriko) vs Tiggy (Lilica)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvOXnRzs1_4
poon (Fiona) vs Tiggy (Lieselotte)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46z8MqorvmU
poon (Yoriko) vs Tiggy (Mei-Fang)

I performed pretty sloppily in these vids. poon doesn't play Arcana really, he just played to help with the recording.

Enjoy!!

[meta]

Man, should throw an all Fiona side tourney for a dollar at SB3.

[someAzNdude]

Man, should throw an all Fiona side tourney for a dollar at SB3.

lol, I'm down with that, if I make it to SB3 I'll enter with time fiona

[pbj_mixxa]

I guess I'd be down for a fiona side tourney. I ain't touched the game since mwc (or any fg besides MBAC due to lack of a lag-free tv) but I'll try to practice up.

[Sabin]

Activate Gier summon into Excalibur, that was beautiful. When they change back after Gier summon are they always in the air? I remember something like that was mentioned in the AH2 thread but is that guaranteed in AH1 as well?

yes its exactly the same

[nekohime]

yes its exactly the same

Cool, I'll have to remember that when my stick arrives so I can practice gier setups without breaking my thumb.

An all Fiona tourney sounds like fun. I'm gonna try to make it to SB3 so I can meet and play with some of you guys, hopefully I can learn a few things too. By the way, is it definite yet that AH2 will be there?

[Tiggy]

Since everyone is so hype over Fiona, I just had to post this link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Hhf_vfNVw

This vid is full of win. Even the title of the video is lulz.
If you can't read Katakana, just watch the video and you will understand...

[Bill307]

Oh wow, that AH remix project looks (or rather, sounds) awesome! I really love the new intro music: where did you get it from?

To be honest, I'd prefer a normal AH1 side tourney to an all-Fiona one. (Although if people want to pick Fiona vs Kira, then I won't complain... :wink: ) But if there's already a normal one then I'd enter an all-Fiona one as well for fun. :razz: Though IMO it should be shorter, like bo1 instead of bo3, to leave more time for casuals and MMs.

[Master Chibi]

i think you guys should just hold an ah1 side tournament

all fiona tournament sounds dumb

and this is me we're talking about

[HeartNana]

If you do have an all fiona one, do it single elim or something for everyones sake...

[Tiggy]

I would NEVER allow such a horrendous thing to happen, at least not on my PS2.
But if the majority wants it, then I can't argue. I would just make it single elim, as HeartNana suggested.

Bill - I don't know the title of the track (one of the few I didn't supply), but it's from Killer 7.

[Bill307]

Never heard of Killer 7, but I guess it had neat music. o.O

[Gasaraki]

Never heard of Killer 7, but I guess it had neat music. o.O
Wtf?! Really?

It's a Gamecube game, same people that made the recent No More Heroes.

[Necrosis]

it was also on PS2, and is one of the craziest games I've ever played. I'm still not entirely sure what the hell happened. Highly recommend you check it out.

Can we has track list, since you're finally unveiling this thing?

[Bill307]

Hey, are you using any tracks from the two The Black Mages albums?

Personally, I'd suggest the remix of The Decisive Battle from FFVI, on the 1st album. :smile:

[someAzNdude]

Hey, are you using any tracks from the two The Black Mages albums?

Personally, I'd suggest the remix of The Decisive Battle from FFVI, on the 1st album. :smile:

The Black Mages are gawdlike

[Saotome Kaneda]

Oh wow, that AH remix project looks (or rather, sounds) awesome! I really love the new intro music: where did you get it from?

To be honest, I'd prefer a normal AH1 side tourney to an all-Fiona one. (Although if people want to pick Fiona vs Kira, then I won't complain... :wink: ) But if there's already a normal one then I'd enter an all-Fiona one as well for fun. :razz: Though IMO it should be shorter, like bo1 instead of bo3, to leave more time for casuals and MMs.
there needs to be an all kira side tourney

everyone uses steel and can only use grab supers

[Tiggy]

Can we has track list, since you're finally unveiling this thing?

Nope. Gotta wait until SB3 :razz:
But I will give you all a warning though: Maori's stage has IaMP music :rofl:

Hey, are you using any tracks from the two The Black Mages albums?

Personally, I'd suggest the remix of The Decisive Battle from FFVI, on the 1st album. :smile:

Ummm....honestly, I don't know what that is. But the whole thing is already done, so you won't find any of that on the tracks.

And props to SK for double posting with the exact same post :looney: The thought of an all Kira tourney with Steel Arcana and nothing but 720 supers would be kinda fun actually.....

[Saotome Kaneda]

And props to SK for double posting with the exact same post :looney: The thought of an all Kira tourney with Steel Arcana and nothing but 720 supers would be kinda fun actually.....

For those that have been keeping score, I doublepost because the service out here in the desert sucks and for some reason my doubleposts always get through the vBul filter on FGD thanks to the mod powers. =/If you could see deleted posts almost every post I make has a duplicate thanks to this. lol

[Bill307]

there needs to be an all kira side tourney

everyone uses steel and can only use grab supers
That would be full of awesome, but also full of failed 720s / air supers (at least from me). :sad:

Next time I play AH I'm gonna pick Steel Kira and air super as a counter to everything, because I suck at executing that move =P, and because I want to see what's possible with it. Oh my god, there was a video (AH2 I think) where a Kira player wins a round using ONLY air supers. I gotta find that vid... edit: found it! (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3708406) (Nico Video AH2, at 2:15)

Also, instant air super grab as anti-air is too good (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4036385) (Nico Video AH2, at 1:54). :lovin:

[Saotome Kaneda]

That would be full of awesome, but also full of failed 720s / air supers (at least from me). :sad:

Next time I play AH I'm gonna pick Steel Kira and air super as a counter to everything, because I suck at executing that move =P, and because I want to see what's possible with it. Oh my god, there was a video (AH2 I think) where a Kira player wins a round using ONLY air supers. I gotta find that vid... edit: found it! (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3708406) (Nico Video AH2, at 2:15)

Also, instant air super grab as anti-air is too good (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4036385) (Nico Video AH2, at 1:54). :lovin:
Niggas from the last Sausagefest @ Team Spooky know about me and TK Air Super as AA. lol It's like the one thing I can consistantly do anymore. =x Ken has gotten better than me in all the other tricks. :shake: I really wanna play all the other US Kiras to see where I stand, especially since almost EVERYONE ELSE plays more than me. =/


Re: TK Air Super - The grab "hit" box starts right in the center of the blob, and ends somewhere around Kira's head, and goes out kinda far. It can suck up almost anything in that range if done at the right time. I've been beaten out of it by Zenia's jC, so be careful. lol It doesn't grab limbs per-se, but I think it works more like if their torso is actually in the grab box they get snatched up. If I actually could play with someone right now I could test. =x

[someAzNdude]

:wonder:

[Tiggy]

For those that have been keeping score, I doublepost because the service out here in the desert sucks and for some reason my doubleposts always get through the vBul filter on FGD thanks to the mod powers. =/If you could see deleted posts almost every post I make has a duplicate thanks to this. lol

Oops. My bad.
Come to think of it, I have seen other edits similar to this one, so sorry for my ignorance and not putting two and two together :shake:
My little bro is there in Iraq too, and today is his birthday.

To keep this post related to Arcana, he HATES the game. There's no redeming value in this game that he sees. But he's happy that I found something that I really enjoy to play.

[Saotome Kaneda]

:wonder:
:confused:

[orka]

:confused:
:wonder:

[Bill307]

Hey Tiggy, can you or poon explain how to change the music on AH US (or direct me to a post about it)? I'm starting to wonder about making my own version. At the very least, I'd put in the AH2 music instead. ^^

[Tiggy]

No Bill, I can't. It's like hacking into a super computer :shake:
poon could though, I'll link ya.

If anyone wants to help me out, I'll run an AH side tourney prolly Saturday night. I've never done a tourney before myself, so anyone with dat experience who wants to help me out that'll be there would greatly be appreciated. Otherwise we'll just do horribly organized casuals and random MMs.

[poon]

Hey Tiggy, can you or poon explain how to change the music on AH US (or direct me to a post about it)? I'm starting to wonder about making my own version. At the very least, I'd put in the AH2 music instead. ^^

it's really hard to do. use these:

http://hcs64.com/files/adxtract00.zip

http://www.bpsoft.com/downloads/download.jsp?dlfile=hw32v514.exe

If you don't know what to do with those, you're better off just waiting for the AH2 console release. trust me. :)

[Bill307]

Hopefully the awesomeness of having custom music will drive me to learn how to do it. :wonder: Thanks!

Tiggy: I mostly-ran the 8-man AH tourney at T9 a few months ago, so I can help with my limited experience. Unfortunately, the only thing I did wrong at T9 was make some mistakes when seeding the brackets, so... I think I have a lot of mistakes left to make! :wink: jk, I'm pretty sure everything will go fine.

Edit: I'll bring my digicam, too. I've got room for about 4.5 hours of footage, plus the equipment to transfer it to a laptop if someone brings one. I'm hoping someone will, so we can transfer all the casuals footage onto a laptop to make room for the tournament footage. Otherwise, we'll have to be strict on which casuals get saved and/or overwrite them with tournament matches.

I like to get all of the tournament matches because I like to give everyone the opportunity to see themselves playing. I know I benefit a lot from watching myself afterwards.

[Hyperhal]

it's really hard to do. use these:

http://hcs64.com/files/adxtract00.zip

http://www.bpsoft.com/downloads/download.jsp?dlfile=hw32v514.exe

If you don't know what to do with those, you're better off just waiting for the AH2 console release. trust me. :)

I always knew the method, but I could never find the programs. :tup: I'll definitely check these out

[Mizuki]

I always knew the method, but I could never find the programs. :tup: I'll definitely check these out

Yes, lolis beating the fuck out of each other to "Mobbin thru da hood"

[Tiggy]

Hopefully the awesomeness of having custom music will drive me to learn how to do it. :wonder: Thanks!

Tiggy: I mostly-ran the 8-man AH tourney at T9 a few months ago, so I can help with my limited experience. Unfortunately, the only thing I did wrong at T9 was make some mistakes when seeding the brackets, so... I think I have a lot of mistakes left to make! :wink: jk, I'm pretty sure everything will go fine.

Edit: I'll bring my digicam, too. I've got room for about 4.5 hours of footage, plus the equipment to transfer it to a laptop if someone brings one. I'm hoping someone will, so we can transfer all the casuals footage onto a laptop to make room for the tournament footage. Otherwise, we'll have to be strict on which casuals get saved and/or overwrite them with tournament matches.

I like to get all of the tournament matches because I like to give everyone the opportunity to see themselves playing. I know I benefit a lot from watching myself afterwards.

All is greatly appreciated. I won't have my laptop available to me for the better part of the SB3 weekend because I'm lending it to fugee so he can make brackets. We'll see what's up though.

I always knew the method, but I could never find the programs. :tup: I'll definitely check these out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrnVNZpnvRI

[Bill307]

All is greatly appreciated. I won't have my laptop available to me for the better part of the SB3 weekend because I'm lending it to fugee so he can make brackets. We'll see what's up though.
Hmm... in a worst-case scenario, maybe we can transfer the videos onto the laptop while he's using it? For me it takes about 4 minutes to transfer an entire 4 GB card onto my PC, but I can do other things while it's transferring. Obviously it'd be a lot better if we didn't have to disturb him at all, though.

So I was thinking about what songs I could put into AH. I found a great one to be Kira's theme: Maybe I'm a Lion, from The Black Mages II album. I love how it starts off with this feeling like Kira's going to dominate some bitches... :rock:

[nekohime]

Played some really fun matches today with a couple friends. I switched from lighting Heart to gier Heart (even though I'd rather play gier anybody on stick, my stick hasn't arrived yet so I'm making do till then) because my habit of throwing 236D when the opponent is at long range was getting me horribly owned by the guy who plays time Lilica last time we played. Gier's specials proved a lot better at interrupting attempts to go into the heal kick loop, which trained him to go into it less. Which meant I spent less time eating combos in the corner and more time working on my poking and clashing game since I was losing almost all of those after switching from Fiona to Heart.

Between Gier setups and doing better with pokes/clashes I got a lot more chances to attempt my ghetto IAD combo, which was good experiance, and also felt closer to playing on even ground than I ever have since we picked this game up. Seriously, when we first started it was me getting 20+ win streaks by abusing Fiona, then when Lilica started making me work for it I switched to Heart and started losing 20+ in a row. It feels nice to have matches go back and forth for a change.

One thing I luck out on (or is unlucky for me, depending on how you look at it) is that he can't do flash step on pad at all, so I still don't have to deal with time super combos. I did show him this HeartNana vs Capps video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-56MxIKVJY) and he's been doing a lot more "time bullshit" which has made things more interesting. Most notably he likes to knock me down and 6[C] > 6D with either a normal hit or a throw to put me back on the ground and do it again. I'm still trying to figure out an effective way to counter that, usually I block one and get hit by the other or thrown, so yeah I definitely need to learn wakeup better.

I only played Fiona once all night. I was starting to get annoyed at having to work so hard just to get in range to do anything against the Maori player so I switched out. I played terribly too. I used to be able to do air combos left and right with her but tonight i just couldn't follow up properly. Even so it was a pretty easy win, he's not used to fighting Fiona anymore and I think they're both still afraid of her from when I mained her so I don't think he was playing anywhere near his best.

But yeah, it was a fun night.

[Bill307]

Glad to hear you had fun. AH is the best. :smile:

I'm still trying to figure out an effective way to counter that, usually I block one and get hit by the other or thrown, so yeah I definitely need to learn wakeup better.
Is he doing this on your wake-up? Do 623C to dragon punch when you see it coming. If he does it a bit late, a well-timed 5B will clash with it during the start-up of 5B.

Another option is to just let him hit you (i.e. don't block), then hold D to wall-tech to prevent him from knocking you back down or doing a combo.

[AlterGenesis]

What? If you're Heart you should be afraid of NO OKI. EVER. Seriously.

DP if blocked. Homing. (If aren't in range, Heartful Punch :lol:)

I'm so serious. :rofl:

[Master Chibi]

Yeah, I agree.

:rofl:

[nekohime]

Like I said I still have a lot of work to do :smile: I'll try 623C next time and see how that goes.

If you're Heart you should be afraid of NO OKI. EVER. Seriously.
Yeah... I have no idea what that means :sweat:

[Saotome Kaneda]

Yeah... I have no idea what that means :sweat:
oki= okizeme = 起き攻め = wakeup games(meaties, etc.)

[meta]

Guys, I found the pro-est combo with Fiona. 2c into excalibur.

[Saotome Kaneda]

Guys, I found the pro-est combo with Fiona. 2c into excalibur.
.....

[unprotectedSEX]

i am complete new to this game and was called out by a random ass scrub at my school to play i took the challenge cause i knew i would win

is there a forum board or anything i can look at for juggles and stuff??

i will be using Kamui if you guys can pm me here juggles or somehting that would be a big help

also my friends letting me borrow the game tomorrow

[orka]

i am complete new to this game and was called out by a random ass scrub at my school to play i took the challenge cause i knew i would win

is there a forum board or anything i can look at for juggles and stuff??

I would say try the Guard Crush wiki... but some stuff there is not complete, and some of the info are just iffy.

I'd say start out by watching as many Japanese match vids you can (copy and paste 'アルカナハート' in youtube). Then try searching for info at Guard Crush or on this thread. If you can't find your answer, post up.

EDIT: Damn you, you ninja edited lol. The Kamui wiki on Guard Crush is pretty solid as far as I know, and there are tons of Kamui vids from AH1. She was one of the most popular characters. Many of us also play her to a certain extent (she's like Chun-li of this game), so go ahead and post questions.

[AlterGenesis]

i will be using Kamui if you guys can pm me here juggles or somehting that would be a big help

B C 236+BC

You are now one-step closer to being a top-tier Kamui player.

[Sabin]

I would say try the Guard Crush wiki... but some stuff there is not complete, and some of the info are just iffy.

I'd say start out by watching as many Japanese match vids you can (copy and paste 'アルカナハート' in youtube). Then try searching for info at Guard Crush or on this thread. If you can't find your answer, post up.

EDIT: Damn you, you ninja edited lol. The Kamui wiki on Guard Crush is pretty solid as far as I know, and there are tons of Kamui vids from AH1. She was one of the most popular characters.

the kamui wiki i wrote on guardcrush should be more than enough to get him started with basic combos and the like and use of moves

[HeartNana]

Guys, I found the pro-est combo with Fiona. 2c into excalibur.
:pray::pray::pray:

Why so pro?

[unprotectedSEX]

I would say try the Guard Crush wiki... but some stuff there is not complete, and some of the info are just iffy.

I'd say start out by watching as many Japanese match vids you can (copy and paste 'アルカナハート' in youtube). Then try searching for info at Guard Crush or on this thread. If you can't find your answer, post up.

EDIT: Damn you, you ninja edited lol. The Kamui wiki on Guard Crush is pretty solid as far as I know, and there are tons of Kamui vids from AH1. She was one of the most popular characters. Many of us also play her to a certain extent (she's like Chun-li of this game), so go ahead and post questions.


hahahaha sorry bout that
yeah i heard shes a top tier whore
hopefully i get into this game even tho there is most likely no scene in SD

[dj_de]

I would say try the Guard Crush wiki... but some stuff there is not complete, and some of the info are just iffy.
It wasn't until today that I realized you can't follow that wiki 100% for some of the small stuff. Like I realized the only reason I couldn't do Heart/Saki corner loop was that you need to ground dash on the ground part of the loop too, which wasn't listed. It wasn't until I really tried Mei-fang knowing that she always had to ground dash in her combo that I suddenly realized it.

But at least now I'm happy being able to use Mei-fang

[nekohime]

I would say try the Guard Crush wiki... but some stuff there is not complete, and some of the info are just iffy.

Hell, Heart doesn't even have a page anymore :shake:

Hopefully when Sabin finishes the new one it will be 100 times better than the old one and thus worth the wait.

]hahahaha sorry bout that
yeah i heard shes a top tier whore
hopefully i get into this game even tho there is most likely no scene in SD

I wouldn't worry too much about tier ranking in AH Full. Sure, tiers exist but they don't mean nearly as much as they do in a lot of other games. It's pretty well balanced.

[Midekai]

Is it wrong that I'm trying to get the local arcade to try and buy an Arcana Heart 1 or 2 machine here in NorCal? :<

[HeartNana]

Arcana 1 machine, yes, because that game is obselete in arcades (thanks to console version and AH2). Arcana 2, maybe...

[Bill307]

I've actually recorded videos of myself doing all of Kamui's combos from the Wiki. But I don't have any "combo video making software" so I never got around to uploading it. =/

i am complete new to this game and was called out by a random ass scrub at my school to play i took the challenge cause i knew i would win

is there a forum board or anything i can look at for juggles and stuff??

i will be using Kamui if you guys can pm me here juggles or somehting that would be a big help

also my friends letting me borrow the game tomorrow
If both of you are new to the game, then this is probably all you need to know to beat him:

Combos:
- 5B 5C > 236A+B
- dash-in > 5A+D (neutral throw) > 5[HC] (hold D) > j.A j.B > dj.B dj.C > 412A
- (approaching grounded opponent from the air) > j.2C > land > 5B 5C > 236A+B

Blockstrings:
- 5B 5C > (on reaction to block) 41236A
- 5B 5C > (on reaction to block) 236[D] with Gier Arcana (hold D to delay Gier's attack)
- 5B > jump cancel > instant air dash > j.2C
- (approaching grounded opponent from the air) > j.2C > 412A

j.2C is very good for crossups, btw.

To get out of pressure:
- 6GC > 236A+B
- 4GC > 412A or 412A+B

Anti-air:
- jump towards him > j.A j.B > dj.B dj.C > 412A
- 623A (high counter) > same combo as after neutral throw


Now that you know how to top tier whore with Kamui, just don't make him quit! :wink: Good luck.

[Sugarmilktea]

Great news! We finally will be having our first tourney this saturday for AH...

[Hyperhal]

Good to hear it! :tup: Try to get vids, I wanna see how you guys are doing

[Tiggy]

Great news! We finally will be having our first tourney this saturday for AH...


Good luck and congrats! AH tourneys are the most awesome thing ever, real talk.

[orka]

Great news! We finally will be having our first tourney this saturday for AH...

Have fun :)

[nekohime]

Great news! We finally will be having our first tourney this saturday for AH...

Awesome, I hope you have a good turnout and stir up some AH hype!

I'll be going to my first AH tourney (which will also my by first fighting game tourney) at Impact Clash II on 10/11. It'll probably just be a small side tourney since there are only 6 preregistrations so I'm considering it a warm-up for SB3 the following week.

There is going to be AHF and/or AH2 at SB3, right? If I drove all the way to Ohio and it turned out there was no Arcana I think I would cry :sad:

[orka]

There is going to be AHF and/or AH2 at SB3, right? If I drove all the way to Ohio and it turned out there was no Arcana I think I would cry :sad:

AH2 (although Sp00ky has not commented on it lately) will most likely not be there.

AHF will be, however.

[Capps Indigo]

Great news! We finally will be having our first tourney this saturday for AH...

good stuff!! good luck. ^_^

[filbert]

even though i've just been playing AH1 for a couple of months does anyone know if theres goin to be any tourneys near Kingsville Tx.

[Farpenoodle]

Good to hear it! :tup: Try to get vids, I wanna see how you guys are doing
The problem is we're all out of practice. I haven't touched the game since I went to Japan. Except for this one time where I played Mei Fang for shits and giggles while at the arcade. (Arcade mode with 3 Balls = LONG ASS TIME. Even without wasting time.) Not to mention this is AH (not full!) we're talking about. I look forward to many Kamuis and Sakis. (I'll probably be playing Saki myself. :V Maybe a bit of Mei Fang.)

We think they're holding the tournament to gauge interest in S!AH2. So yeah. We're trying to find as many random people who wouldn't mind seeing AH2 here to come.

[Bill307]

Great news! We finally will be having our first tourney this saturday for AH...
Cool, congrats! :tup:

Where do you guys live?

[Sabin]

Cool, congrats! :tup:

Where do you guys live?

they live in singapore dude

farpenoodle good shit, wtf took you guys so long lol

[Farpenoodle]

We've been trying. Lol.

It might be because of our efforts that we even have this chance though. So I guess go us.

[Tiggy]

Awesome, I hope you have a good turnout and stir up some AH hype!

I'll be going to my first AH tourney (which will also my by first fighting game tourney) at Impact Clash II on 10/11. It'll probably just be a small side tourney since there are only 6 preregistrations so I'm considering it a warm-up for SB3 the following week.

There is going to be AHF and/or AH2 at SB3, right? If I drove all the way to Ohio and it turned out there was no Arcana I think I would cry :sad:

I've made it a point to all those interested that AH1 will be there in full effect. I will see to this personally.

And good luck to you in your first tourney!

[Sugarmilktea]

Good to hear it! :tup: Try to get vids, I wanna see how you guys are doing
Well I'll try to record some vid if they allow us to during the tourney

Good luck and congrats! AH tourneys are the most awesome thing ever, real talk.

Have fun :)

good stuff!! good luck. ^_^
Thanks alot guys :lovin:

Cool, congrats! :tup:

Where do you guys live?
We were located in singapore as sabin said

they live in singapore dude

farpenoodle good shit, wtf took you guys so long lol
No idea, me and farp have been pestering them to bring in ah2 since ever and we think this might guage how many are in the AH community over here.

I'll fly you over here in a heart beat sabin frm japan to show them how ah is played if i have the cash :rofl:

We've been trying. Lol.

It might be because of our efforts that we even have this chance though. So I guess go us.
Bah we're so out of form, not to mention have to readjust our combos from full! to normal ah is so headache.

[AlterGenesis]

Cool, congrats! :tup:

Where do you guys live?

Bill, I demand you come play me and put the emphatic stamp on the Canadian scene. Hurry up already. Just beat me or something. COME ON! (All I've been playing is SCIV :rofl:) By the way, bring your friend.

I like money.

[StyleTime]

Awesome, I hope you have a good turnout and stir up some AH hype!

I'll be going to my first AH tourney (which will also my by first fighting game tourney) at Impact Clash II on 10/11. It'll probably just be a small side tourney since there are only 6 preregistrations so I'm considering it a warm-up for SB3 the following week.

What sucks is that there are least twice that many people there who play Arcana. You'll get plenty of casuals if it's anything like last time. Noone wants to compete in anything but 3rd Strike though.

[Bill307]

Bill, I demand you come play me and put the emphatic stamp on the Canadian scene. Hurry up already. Just beat me or something. COME ON! (All I've been playing is SCIV :rofl:) By the way, bring your friend.

I like money.
How about this Sunday? Edit: actually, next Sunday?

And which friend: the one who's been playing AH for a while, or the one who just learned and plays Melty? I'll try to convince both to come. :wink:

[nekohime]

I've made it a point to all those interested that AH1 will be there in full effect. I will see to this personally.

And good luck to you in your first tourney!

Thanks for the encouragement. I really just hope I don't get all nervous and lock up.

What sucks is that there are least twice that many people there who play Arcana. You'll get plenty of casuals if it's anything like last time. Noone wants to compete in anything but 3rd Strike though.

Yeah, when I went down to Atlanta to play slayerx4 he said there were actually quite a few people who played AH. Of course if you ask in the GA thread no-one seems to want to admit that they play it.

[Midekai]

Is it wrong that I'm trying to get my local arcade to purchase one of the cabinets of this game?
I've also bought the game and I really see its potential. I'd really like the sequel to come to America as well... hopefully as a downloadable game on XBLA or some sort of port to home console. The game seems to be doing alright here and I already know quite a few people that have it.

[Sugarmilktea]

I'll post vids of the tourney that we will be going to tml. It's Ah1 only so don't ask for anything special cause we're not gonna use ahf style in ah
Well until maybe after the tourney when we play casuals we'll be playing more fancy

[Tiggy]

Thanks for the encouragement. I really just hope I don't get all nervous and lock up.

I get nervous and lock up all the time. Ask pbj_mixxa. At MWC I was WAY too nervous...it was ridiculous. Me and my little girls have so much to prove. The only advice I have to give is to literally just have fun with the game.

[nekohime]

I get nervous and lock up all the time. Ask pbj_mixxa. At MWC I was WAY too nervous...it was ridiculous. Me and my little girls have so much to prove. The only advice I have to give is to literally just have fun with the game.

I've heard that tournaments are as much or more of a psychological challenge as they are about being good at the game. Since it will be my first tourney experience I'm going for a mindset of just being happy to play against new people and characters. Ultimately whether I win or lose won't be as important as whether or not my game improves as a result.

But I'll still probably be nervous as hell :lol:

[AlterGenesis]

If anything being nervous is normal, (if you weren't your either one of the best players there or not human :lol:) just trust your skills. Don't doubt yourself or think you need more practice because that does not help.

Just know that you're good with where you are in your games. Also, the big one is, don't worry about who you're playing. Play the character, the matchup and the playstyle. If you lose, yeah, learning process. That's always good.

[Sugarmilktea]

Apparently we were lied to by the organizor of the tourney... There wasn't supposed to be any today.
I was so pissed that I organized my own tournament on the spot and get everyone who turned up to join.

Too bad it was only a 10man AH tourney single elimination due to lack of time.

Will be posted the vids up soon as soon as I label them properly first

[nekohime]

Altergenesis: Very true. As cool as it would be to win with Heart I'm just not very solid with her yet. For the tourney I'll probably cheap it up with Fiona (who I still consider my main) and just try to play smart as that's probably what will get me the furthest. For casuals I'll definitely want to mix it up just to get a feel on how different match-ups play. So far all I've really played are Fiona vs Lilica, Maori, and Kamui; and Heart vs Lilica and Maori.

By the way, I know my Japanese is still pretty bad but is that a Macross Frontier reference I see in your sig?

Sugarmilktea: That sucks you got lied to but at least you still got to play. Hope you guys had fun and spread some hype!

[AlterGenesis]

Yeah, for the tournament you should probably stick to your most comfortable character. It especially helps when you're under pressure, since you react quicker.

...and yes, it is a Macross Frontier reference. That Ranka song is too catchy. :tup:

[Tiggy]

Apparently we were lied to by the organizor of the tourney... There wasn't supposed to be any today.
I was so pissed that I organized my own tournament on the spot and get everyone who turned up to join.

Too bad it was only a 10man AH tourney single elimination due to lack of time.

Will be posted the vids up soon as soon as I label them properly first

I probably should've mentioned this earlier, but Arcana gets shitted on at tourneys, in terms of time (and the whole loli thing too, but whateva). But for you guys to have been lied to about it altogether.....DAAAMMMNNNN this game gets no love, even in Singapore son! :sad:

Can't wait to see the vids though.

[Sabin]

Is it wrong that I'm trying to get my local arcade to purchase one of the cabinets of this game?
I've also bought the game and I really see its potential. I'd really like the sequel to come to America as well... hopefully as a downloadable game on XBLA or some sort of port to home console. The game seems to be doing alright here and I already know quite a few people that have it.

Get your local arcade to purchase AH2 or AH2 Sugoi when its released, its imminent. AH1 is obsolete now..but I guess the pcbs are fucking dirt cheap now if anything.

I probably should've mentioned this earlier, but Arcana gets shitted on at tourneys, in terms of time (and the whole loli thing too, but whateva). But for you guys to have been lied to about it altogether.....DAAAMMMNNNN this game gets no love, even in Singapore son! :sad:

Can't wait to see the vids though.

Yeah Arcana gets shitted on everywhere except for Japan. :rofl:

Sorry you guys (in Singapore) were lied to. Shit is standard, son. :confused:

[Bill307]

Apparently we were lied to by the organizor of the tourney... There wasn't supposed to be any today.
I was so pissed that I organized my own tournament on the spot and get everyone who turned up to join.

Too bad it was only a 10man AH tourney single elimination due to lack of time.

Will be posted the vids up soon as soon as I label them properly first
Wow wtf?

Are you sure it wasn't just an accidental miscommunication?

GJ stepping up to host it yourself, though. Hope you guys were still able to have some GGs.

[Master Chibi]

Get your local arcade to purchase AH2 or AH2 Sugoi when its released, its imminent. AH1 is obsolete now..but I guess the pcbs are fucking dirt cheap now if anything.

So what the hell is the point of this thread then?

[Sabin]

So what the hell is the point of this thread then?

To discuss AH1 for the rest of the western world since there is no current way to play the latest version of the game right now?

[Master Chibi]

To discuss AH1 for the rest of the western world since there is no current way to play the latest version of the game right now?

But you just said it's obsolete, so what's the point?

[Sabin]

But you just said it's obsolete, so what's the point?

Yes, its obsolete, but it doesnt mean we cant discuss a old version of the game until the new version comes along and is widely available, like we have been doing. because theres no way to play the current version atm

My post was directed earlier at one guy who asked if his arcade should get AH - what i said is true, the game is obsolete, and you should try to get AH2 if possible, but the ah1 pcb is dirt cheap, so if you try to get it, thats cool.

Really dont get your point here.

[nekohime]

Anyway, did some messing around with my recording equipment tonight. It took a few tries but we eventually came up with this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLoW_jPHTY4). It's not much but it was pretty fun to do. Special thanks to spooky for telling me how to record with commentary.

...and yes, it is a Macross Frontier reference. That Ranka song is too catchy. :tup:

Yeah, I liked it too until Bobby tried to sing it.

edit for redundancy

[Master Chibi]

Yes, its obsolete, but it doesnt mean we cant discuss a old version of the game until the new version comes along and is widely available, like we have been doing. because theres no way to play the current version atm

My post was directed earlier at one guy who asked if his arcade should get AH - what i said is true, the game is obsolete, and you should try to get AH2 if possible, but the ah1 pcb is dirt cheap, so if you try to get it, thats cool.

Really dont get your point here.

I think anyone interested in AH in any form should be playing the first before ever touching the second is all. Jumping into the second game (especially with this stupid update coming out) without a solid foundation from the first game isn't a smart move.

:P

[pbj_mixxa]

... unless you choose to play Cathy.

[Capps Indigo]

Anyway, did some messing around with my recording equipment tonight. It took a few tries but we eventually came up with this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLoW_jPHTY4). It's not much but it was pretty fun to do. Special thanks to spooky for telling me how to record with commentary.

lol guys, great job!! ^_^ my favorite part was right when the match started "aaannnndddd.... I drop a combo..." was really funny. i dont know if ive heard people giving commentary on their play as theyre playing before.

[someAzNdude]

lol, nice vid and commentary nekohime :tup:

[nekohime]

I'm glad you guys enjoyed it :wgrin:. To be honest all three of us think we need to get a lot better before we can start showing off in vids but that really was a lot of fun to make.

It is pretty hard to concentrate on winning the match while trying to provide commentary at the same time but not undo able. Might be something to work on to help improve my awareness of what's going on. Either way I noticed that as soon as we started trying to record I started playing a lot worse, even when a third party was announcing the match. The match in that video was one of the few I won once we tried to record. It may have been some of that "people are watching me" thing throwing me off. I'll probably keep recording matches for my own benefit when we play, but I can post them if anyone wants to see them.

[Sugarmilktea]

Ok i've uploaded all the videos to youtube for my mini tourney on saturday. I'll be updating the vids link as soon the rest are uploaded. Just wondering whether I should make a post in the tournament result thread for my humble tournament.. :shake:

Results:

1. Xlenz (Lilica)
2. Luke (Lilica)
3. Hanwei (Saki)
3. SMT (Kamui)

AH Tourney Qualifiers Block 1: 冴姫（雷）　vs 　リリカ（雷） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKlb5Pfj-V0)

AH Tourney Qualifiers Block 2: きら（土）　ｖｓ　冴姫 （雷） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTLtntXjLY)

AH Tourney Qualifiers Block 3: はぁと（闇）　ｖｓ　冴姫 （雷） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mspo396XII4)

AH Tourney Qualifiers Block 4: リリカ（火）　ｖｓ　 神依（闇） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mALYPd1AWg)

AH Tourney Qualifiers Block 5: リリカ（水）　ｖｓ　 神依（闇） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bpqrdzobC4)

AH Tourney Qualifiers Block 6: きら（土）　ｖｓ　 リリカ（火） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27aLchazjHU)

AH Tourney Semi-Finals 1: リリカ（雷）　ｖｓ　 神依（闇） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5P4NnjbLto)

AH Tourney Semi-Finals 2: リリカ（火）　ｖｓ　 冴姫 （雷） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWxu7sq4CnY)

AH Tourney Finals 1: リリカ（雷）　ｖｓ　 リリカ（火） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=481bsmAgCEY)

All Videos can be seen at this playlist: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=57DC27C17FD60E35

Eh I'll upload the results in full when i reach home don't have the result slips on me now at work :looney:

Please give comments too and yes the videos this time is a lot better than last time :rofl: sorry to disappoint all but this is AH only

[nekohime]

Good stuff Sugarmilktea, thanks for the vids :tup:

[orka]

Thanks for the vids! Too bad that you guys had to settle with original AH... but Getting a tourney going certainly sounds like a start of good things to come. :)

[Tiggy]

nekohime - I loved the vid! Great quality as well. Can't wait to see more vids from you.

Sugarmilktea - Haven't watched the vids as of this post, but will very soon! I'm happy to see Lilica at first and second :bgrin:

EDIT: Xlenz has a REALLY good Lilica. I mean, I can't even do Flash Step consistently, but they made it seem easy (like someone else I know).

[Sabin]

good shit singapore, that ah1 vanilla dmg made me :looney: But I hate lilica, so boo for her being in grand finals lol lol

[Farpenoodle]

If SMT uploads the casuals from after the tourney, you'll also get to see vanilla AH Lilica time loop. :looney:

[HeartNana]

lol @ ah vanilla. Brings back memories, haha. Good stuff guys. <3

[Nastrodamus]

tiggy- i massively agree wholeheartedly... i remember last sb ... when the marvel crew found out brandon played AH1... boy did he not hear the end of it..... all you heard during his mm with potter (besides the mango sent and shit) they were saying "FUCK ARCANA HEART"... i have no problems wit them.. but damn... lol

most of the reasons is not gameplay reasons at all.. it's always the art or "it's a loli game"... it's never about the gameplay about 95% of the time.... and ususally the reasons are not solid at all..

but lo an behold... all be damn you shit on SF4 because you don't like the charcters..lol... and they start shittting on ya because you hating base on charcters.. well gee.. aren't we hypocritical lol...

[meta]

nice vids. lilica is broke-tier

fiona unselectable D: D:

[Sugarmilktea]

lol @ ah vanilla. Brings back memories, haha. Good stuff guys. <3
yeah we diss on ah vanilla too we have to step down from ahf combos back to old vanilla :looney:
Too bad we don't have ahf in the arcade here

If SMT uploads the casuals from after the tourney, you'll also get to see vanilla AH Lilica time loop. :looney:
It's coming sooner than you expect it :rofl:

good shit singapore, that ah1 vanilla dmg made me :looney: But I hate lilica, so boo for her being in grand finals lol lol
sorry i couldn't bring kamui glory to the finals! But hey kamui isn't my main for ahf so.. i can only blame myself for lousy execution and being intense during the match for dropping combos

nekohime - I loved the vid! Great quality as well. Can't wait to see more vids from you.

Sugarmilktea - Haven't watched the vids as of this post, but will very soon! I'm happy to see Lilica at first and second :bgrin:

EDIT: Xlenz has a REALLY good Lilica. I mean, I can't even do Flash Step consistently, but they made it seem easy (like someone else I know).
He's our best lilica player here and one of the top players here too

Thanks for the vids! Too bad that you guys had to settle with original AH... but Getting a tourney going certainly sounds like a start of good things to come. :)
thanks but i guess this would be the first and last tourney that AH will ever have here. :sad:

Good stuff Sugarmilktea, thanks for the vids :tup:
thanks for watching

nice vids. lilica is broke-tier

fiona unselectable D: D:
yeah we tried inputting the fiona code but we couldn't get it to appear so... fiona no go!

[Tiggy]

good shit singapore, that ah1 vanilla dmg made me :looney: But I hate lilica, so boo for her being in grand finals lol lol

:rofl: We hate each other's mains.

tiggy- i massively agree wholeheartedly... i remember last sb ... when the marvel crew found out brandon played AH1... boy did he not hear the end of it..... all you heard during his mm with potter (besides the mango sent and shit) they were saying "FUCK ARCANA HEART"... i have no problems wit them.. but damn... lol

most of the reasons is not gameplay reasons at all.. it's always the art or "it's a loli game"... it's never about the gameplay about 95% of the time.... and ususally the reasons are not solid at all..

but lo an behold... all be damn you shit on SF4 because you don't like the charcters..lol... and they start shittting on ya because you hating base on charcters.. well gee.. aren't we hypocritical lol...

Mag/Cab/Storm vs Lilica/Liese/Maori, what's REALLY good?

Can't really expect too many people to be open-minded about Arcana. I mean, I love MvC2, I play T5DR because Lili is in it, and I'd be willing to play SF4 if I had the chance. When it comes down to it, Arcana is possibly the most fun I've ever had playing a fighting game. I still have fun playing MvC2, but not NEARLY as much as Arcana.

I could go even deeper into why I like/dislike characters, but that is for one of those random threads people make.

fiona unselectable D: D:

yeah we tried inputting the fiona code but we couldn't get it to appear so... fiona no go!

Good times.

[Sugarmilktea]

Here are the post tourney casuals:

AH Post Tourney Casuals 1: きら（火）　ｖｓ　 リリカ（時） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm070Aqbhgc)

AH Post Tourney Casuals 2: きら（火）　ｖｓ　 リリカ（時） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Imt-kHlsM4)

AH Post Tourney Casuals 3: はぁと（樹）　ｖｓ　 リリカ（時） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCF8Fx7vav4)

Please watch all videos in high quality and give comments again thanks! I believe Xlenz switch back to AHF play style in these vids

[Tiggy]

Singapore has some beasty AH players! Even though it's AH vanilla in those vids, the skills and fundamentals still show. I don't even come close to you guys in the least.

[nekohime]

Singapore has some beasty AH players! Even though it's AH vanilla in those vids, the skills and fundamentals still show. I don't even come close to you guys in the least.

Don't feel too bad, I've still got a long way to go too. Once again thanks for the vids, Sugarmilktea. It's always fun to see people play AH seriously.

[Sabin]

Here are the post tourney casuals:

AH Post Tourney Casuals 1: きら（火）　ｖｓ　 リリカ（時） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm070Aqbhgc)

AH Post Tourney Casuals 2: きら（火）　ｖｓ　 リリカ（時） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Imt-kHlsM4)

AH Post Tourney Casuals 3: はぁと（樹）　ｖｓ　 リリカ（時） (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCF8Fx7vav4)

Please watch all videos in high quality and give comments again thanks! I believe Xlenz switch back to AHF play style in these vids

i think its safe to say that you guys would beat like 95% of usa arcana ez. at least youd be good enough to own noel :looney:

[NappyJin]

EDIT: Xlenz has a REALLY good Lilica. I mean, I can't even do Flash Step consistently, but they made it seem easy (like someone else I know).


This isn't referring to me so I feel left out.


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Sweet casual vids, though. That was awesome.

[Bill307]

Xlenz looks really good. :tup: I'd love to play him, or see him vs someone like Rob or Arturo.

For a handheld camera, the quality is exceptional, btw.

[Sugarmilktea]

i think its safe to say that you guys would beat like 95% of usa arcana ez. at least youd be good enough to own noel :looney:
you give us too much credit sabin. We don't have much exposure to high quality players down here.

This isn't referring to me so I feel left out.


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Sweet casual vids, though. That was awesome.
thanks a lot hope you like it

Xlenz looks really good. :tup: I'd love to play him, or see him vs someone like Rob or Arturo.

For a handheld camera, the quality is exceptional, btw.
yeah he is that good but why no love for me and farp lol.. Come play with me :lovin: I'll show you some heart love
It's taken from my digi cam so yeah it should be good or else i'll have to sell it away lol

Don't feel too bad, I've still got a long way to go too. Once again thanks for the vids, Sugarmilktea. It's always fun to see people play AH seriously.

Singapore has some beasty AH players! Even though it's AH vanilla in those vids, the skills and fundamentals still show. I don't even come close to you guys in the least.
Thanks a lot at least you guys have ah2:rofl:

[Master Chibi]

I'd love to play everyone in this thread honestly.

Outside of the people in my 'community' who don't fucking play anymore.

:rofl:

[Bill307]

Yeah, actually I would love to play everyone here and in those videos, too. :smile:

But I gotta confess: that Time bullshit Xlenz did really turned me on. :looney:

[Tiggy]

Don't feel too bad, I've still got a long way to go too. Once again thanks for the vids, Sugarmilktea. It's always fun to see people play AH seriously.

I still feel like day one when I play against anyone from this thread. My defense is seriously lacking. There's usually discussion about how to react to clash battles, but I lose when it comes to blocking....I can't even get to said clash battlez :sad:

i think its safe to say that you guys would beat like 95% of usa arcana ez. at least youd be good enough to own noel :looney:

*DS voice* OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This isn't referring to me so I feel left out.


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I've been saying this to myself a lot lately, but you prolly have the best Lilica here in the US now that "you-know-who" is in J-pan. You seriously don't miss dem Flash Steps either. You get the most random hit confirms and never miss the buffers :looney:

Thanks a lot at least you guys have ah2:rofl

I don't have AH2 :sad: I have to drive out of state just to look at the cab.

I'd love to play everyone in this thread honestly.

Outside of the people in my 'community' who don't fucking play anymore.

:rofl:

Yeah, actually I would love to play everyone here and in those videos, too. :smile:

I betta see you two at SB3, cause I'm hungry!!!!! MMs, casuals, whateva! I just want dat experience son!!!

Also, to those who remember this match (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Efy12o82Y), I'm having a revenge MM against Justin Wong at SB3. I'm gonna run back my Plant Liese...this should be interesting :rofl:

[Master Chibi]

Sorry, I won't be at SB3.

NEC > *

[Sp00ky]

I'm glad you guys enjoyed it :wgrin:. To be honest all three of us think we need to get a lot better before we can start showing off in vids but that really was a lot of fun to make.


Glad you guys got it working. A couple of tips some of which you probably already figured out.

You want the game sound on your mixer to be slightly higher than your mic sound since most people tend to speak louder when a mic is involved.


When you use text for player names add shadows to your text. This will allow you to use smaller fonts and place the text in a spot which is not obtrusive to the match. it also looks much more professional and clean.

if you are using sony vegas there is an option to crop out the black borders around the video. Ah1 and ah2 both seem to get bordered when recorded using a dvr but cropping it out has no adverse effects and will improve your encode quality because your encode method will not factor in all of the black outside of the frame. It's ok to cut off the bottom or top of the vid slightly when doing this, nothing important is missed by doing so.


Nice work keep it up.

[Midekai]

Get your local arcade to purchase AH2 or AH2 Sugoi when its released, its imminent. AH1 is obsolete now..but I guess the pcbs are fucking dirt cheap now if anything.

Well the main reason I even brought up this point was because I wanted to know the safest and best version to get, since I live in Cali, in the bay area. So I live around a whole bunch of MvC2, 3rd Strike, SFIV, GG AccentCore, Melty Blood and Tekken players. :p

I wonder if I could get someone in the area to maybe help me out in recommending the game to Either Sunnyvale Golfland or Milpitas Golfland... or maybe even San Jose state which has 4 cabinets of SFIV. I'd just like to get people here in NorCal hyped about the potential of the game... but then again someone would probably rise up here and kick my ass >:3

But on a more serious note though...

Arcana Heart got seriously boned during the month of its US release. I was expecting the game to have its own Tournament at this year's Fanime Con in downtown San Jose, but yet, my tears flowed sadface.

Also congrats to nekohime for getting the video to work with commentary. I gots to seriously learn how to get all that down, since the Accent Core community here has already done wonders with that. (not really)

And those earlier tournament qualifying rounds and finals posted by Sugarmilktea were serious shit (in a good way)
We definitely need more on-the-fly tourny vids of US matches :P
That being said,

I'm still gonna try to hype an AHF tournament at next year's Fanime Con... Or maybe Further Confusion... >.> Since it seems nobody still knows about it. ^ ~
But then again that'd probably mean I'd mostly be beating down on newbies and that wouldn't be fun/honorable... 83

[nekohime]

Glad you guys got it working. A couple of tips some of which you probably already figured out.

You want the game sound on your mixer to be slightly higher than your mic sound since most people tend to speak louder when a mic is involved.


When you use text for player names add shadows to your text. This will allow you to use smaller fonts and place the text in a spot which is not obtrusive to the match. it also looks much more professional and clean.

if you are using sony vegas there is an option to crop out the black borders around the video. Ah1 and ah2 both seem to get bordered when recorded using a dvr but cropping it out has no adverse effects and will improve your encode quality because your encode method will not factor in all of the black outside of the frame. It's ok to cut off the bottom or top of the vid slightly when doing this, nothing important is missed by doing so.


Nice work keep it up.

For that video we actually had the mic input set to 10 and the game input set to 1. Since no one was holding the mic and there were only 3 people in the room we weren't talking very loud. At the beginning you can hear the vibrations from Surllio tapping his fingers on the chair we had the mic tied to. Next time I make one I'll see what I can do with Subtitle Editor to make the text more visible. I don't know about AH2 but AH1 has no overscan, that's why everything outside of title safe zone is black but that's easily cropped I just didn't even think about it.

I'm down to play with any of you guys who make it to SB3. Will we be able to play AH casuals and such anytime during the weekend or only at specific times?

[Tiggy]

For that video we actually had the mic input set to 10 and the game input set to 1. Since no one was holding the mic and there were only 3 people in the room we weren't talking very loud. At the beginning you can hear the vibrations from Surllio tapping his fingers on the chair we had the mic tied to. Next time I make one I'll see what I can do with Subtitle Editor to make the text more visible. I don't know about AH2 but AH1 has no overscan, that's why everything outside of title safe zone is black but that's easily cropped I just didn't even think about it.

I'm down to play with any of you guys who make it to SB3. Will we be able to play AH casuals and such anytime during the weekend or only at specific times?

1) You have GOT to dummy it down for me and actually show me the setup you used to record that video. I know Sp00ky outlined it in pretty good detail already, but I'm not a very technical person.

2) AH will be available all weekend. I'm going to have my own setup for it at the venue until it closes. After that, someone can do casuals at their hotel room or something, I dunno (ala NEC8, those vids are still godlike).

[nekohime]

1) You have GOT to dummy it down for me and actually show me the setup you used to record that video. I know Sp00ky outlined it in pretty good detail already, but I'm not a very technical person.

2) AH will be available all weekend. I'm going to have my own setup for it at the venue until it closes. After that, someone can do casuals at their hotel room or something, I dunno (ala NEC8, those vids are still godlike).

1) I can attempt to describe it in detail here, or if it would be easier I can bring my equipment and show you exactly how it works. Personally I'd love to make some vids at SB3 :lovin:

2) Awesomeness, I know where I'll be pretty much the whole time. I'm gonna try to bring the guys I play with here as well but due to work I'll only be able to be there Saturday and Sunday.

[Tiggy]

1) I can attempt to describe it in detail here, or if it would be easier I can bring my equipment and show you exactly how it works. Personally I'd love to make some vids at SB3 :lovin:

2) Awesomeness, I know where I'll be pretty much the whole time. I'm gonna try to bring the guys I play with here as well but due to work I'll only be able to be there Saturday and Sunday.

Yes, bring the equipment. Show me how it works :bgrin:
SB3 is on Saturday and Sunday, so you'll be fine.

On a side note, I just hit a 56-hit flamethrower combo with Lilica in training mode, similar to the one in the first round in this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGaOcsvpxbk). There was no 6B in the one I did, but it was still hard enough to do. You guys don't know how happy I am! Playing with Fire has finally helped me to understand Flash Step a lot better. I can even do it a little better facing left. And I can do the 2AB 5C > 236a~B > 236C buffer a lot more frequently now.

EDIT: I FINALLY did the Time reset from 2C in the time loop for the first time. OMG it only took about 5 months or so.

[filbert]

u guys are luky, i dont know anyone were im from who plays AH. i dont think anyone even knows about da game.:sad: the only person i play against is my bro and were still trying to get da hang of da game.

[nekohime]

Yes, bring the equipment. Show me how it works :bgrin:
SB3 is on Saturday and Sunday, so you'll be fine.

On a side note, I just hit a 56-hit flamethrower combo with Lilica in training mode, similar to the one in the first round in this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGaOcsvpxbk). There was no 6B in the one I did, but it was still hard enough to do. You guys don't know how happy I am! Playing with Fire has finally helped me to understand Flash Step a lot better. I can even do it a little better facing left. And I can do the 2AB 5C > 236a~B > 236C buffer a lot more frequently now.

EDIT: I FINALLY did the Time reset from 2C in the time loop for the first time. OMG it only took about 5 months or so.

Congrats on the Fire combos and Time reset! Now do them 10 times in a row, and then 10 times in a row from the left! Do that and your execution will be a hell of a lot better than mine.

I'll bring my equipment, and hopefully this (http://www.horistore.com/images/items/detail/HP2-259.jpg) too, which should be arriving at my door on Friday giving me one month to learn how to use it :woot:

[Tiggy]

Congrats on the Fire combos and Time reset! Now do them 10 times in a row, and then 10 times in a row from the left! Do that and your execution will be a hell of a lot better than mine.

I'll bring my equipment, and hopefully this (http://www.horistore.com/images/items/detail/HP2-259.jpg) too, which should be arriving at my door on Friday giving me one month to learn how to use it :woot:

Ok, where the heck did you ordre the stick from? They're supposed to be rare now, but I guess not....

I've been at Time Lilica for a solid hour since the last post and haven't been able to do the reset again....:sad:

[nekohime]

u guys are luky, i dont know anyone were im from who plays AH. i dont think anyone even knows about da game.:sad: the only person i play against is my bro and were still trying to get da hang of da game.

Don't give up, it took me almost two months to get anybody to play with. So long as both you and your brother are willing to play and improve you've got a chance of getting competition. If you ever have friends over try and get them to watch your matches, maybe even try the game out. Even if they're not into fighters they may still have fun and since the game is cheap they may be willing to buy it.

If you're willing to travel a bit you may be able to find tourneys within a few hours drive that will include AH in the Tournaments & Events (http://forums.shoryuken.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7) forum. Tourneys can be a bit of a time and money investment but they're a great place to get experience. Even if you don't get far in the tourney you can play a lot of casuals which should definitely make the trip worthwhile if experience is what you're after.

[nekohime]

I bought the stick here (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=163121) because they are rare as hell. I had given up any chance of owning one so I jumped on it when I saw it.

Anyway, I need to go practice heart combos which I meant to start doing 2 hours ago...

[Sugarmilktea]

lol just realized the thread title. I don't think we are that great. We still lack exposure/experience in the ah field unlike you guys in the states.
Our community is small here unlike yours too.

[orka]

Our community is small here unlike yours too.

You need to keep in mind that your country is much smaller than ours, too. :shake:

Being a Arcana player in the U.S. is like being a dead bug in a bowl of punch. People don't know you exist, then be disgusted when they find you.

[BeaTs*]

haha that's terrible and funny

[AlterGenesis]

lol just realized the thread title. I don't think we are that great. We still lack exposure/experience in the ah field unlike you guys in the states.
Our community is small here unlike yours too.

If you have more than 5 people, your scene is officially bigger than Canada's too. :shake:

[nekohime]

lol just realized the thread title. I don't think we are that great. We still lack exposure/experience in the ah field unlike you guys in the states.
Our community is small here unlike yours too.

You need to keep in mind that your country is much smaller than ours, too. :shake:

Being a Arcana player in the U.S. is like being a dead bug in a bowl of punch. People don't know you exist, then be disgusted when they find you.

Very true.

The thing is, here in the states most of us don't have "an AH community". There's a very small number of cities where there actually is an arcade that has an AH machine, and not all of those get serious play. Those that do get serious play are the source of most of the top US players. All the rest of us are mostly stuck by ourselves, either having imported a board or playing the PS2 port. If we're lucky we can convince a friend or two that the game is worth playing and then at least have someone to practice with. I myself have only played 3 other AH players, 2 of whom are my friends and the other I drove for 2 hours to meet. So yeah, you guys really are doing pretty good, keep it up!

[Sugarmilktea]

You need to keep in mind that your country is much smaller than ours, too. :shake:

Being a Arcana player in the U.S. is like being a dead bug in a bowl of punch. People don't know you exist, then be disgusted when they find you.
wow orka that mean and funny at the same time though :rofl:

If you have more than 5 people, your scene is officially bigger than Canada's too. :shake:
erm... can i insert canada joke in here? lol j/k

Very true.

The thing is, here in the states most of us don't have "an AH community". There's a very small number of cities where there actually is an arcade that has an AH machine, and not all of those get serious play. Those that do get serious play are the source of most of the top US players. All the rest of us are mostly stuck by ourselves, either having imported a board or playing the PS2 port. If we're lucky we can convince a friend or two that the game is worth playing and then at least have someone to practice with. I myself have only played 3 other AH players, 2 of whom are my friends and the other I drove for 2 hours to meet. So yeah, you guys really are doing pretty good, keep it up!
I would love to play you all when i go to the states next year :lovin: Hopefully i don't get beaten up by some gangsters in the arcade for staring at them..

But the thing is we don't have season tourney being held somewhere unlike you all. Usually No one takes games seriously down here.

[AlterGenesis]

erm... can i insert canada joke in here? lol j/k


Take your best shot, seriously. I like Canada jokes. :rofl:

...and yes, I do live in an igloo, work as a lumberjack, our policemen ride horses and I finish every sentence with EH?

[Tiggy]

lol just realized the thread title. I don't think we are that great. We still lack exposure/experience in the ah field unlike you guys in the states.
Our community is small here unlike yours too.

I just read it too. Singapore AH players are gdlk

Being a Arcana player in the U.S. is like being a dead bug in a bowl of punch. People don't know you exist, then be disgusted when they find you.

That's gonna be my new sig
Jajaja

[Sabin]

Well the main reason I even brought up this point was because I wanted to know the safest and best version to get,

well good luck with that honestly. since there is a us arcade release of arcana 2 coming out in 30 days, so you may as well try to bug your local arcade operator. may as well ask mizuki for some assistance since hes the other main strong arcana supporter in your area. if cost is a problem ahf board is dumb cheap (but i wouldnt reccomend it.) good luck

lol just realized the thread title. I don't think we are that great. We still lack exposure/experience in the ah field unlike you guys in the states.
Our community is small here unlike yours too.

there is no community, only small pockets of players here and there.
and the only people who have any massive exposure or experience are myself and rob since weve been overseas. the scene here isnt as big as you think it is!

[HeartNana]

Heck even the scene in Japan really isn't as big as you would think. I have to really go out of my way to find arcana, and its really only one arcade of in osaka/kobe area that i know of that people even play at...Granted, its waaaaay better than anything in the states, cause there's a lot more players that are better, but its still not always readily available to just go somewhere and play unlike Tekken or street fighter or gundam or whatever.

[orka]

Hey I just keep it real.

The troof is tough.

[NappyJin]

Hey I just keep it real.

The troof is tough.

As it should be.

[Xlenz]

First i would like to thank you for everyone giving comments (general) for the AH matches, and also comments (about my lilica).

Thank YOU!! xD

I would like to play with everyone too!! including Tiggy04 & Bill307. haha

Just a short post to help Tiggy to do the lilica time reset/ fire combo. the vid u posted, that lilica combo seems weird and harder to do i think. lol

The basic 5B flashkicks combo should be like this.

DC -> 5B, *flashkick* 5B, *flashk* 6B -> *flashk* dash, 5A,B *flashk* 6B -> *flashk* dash, 5A,B *flashkick* 5B *flashkick* 5B --> (FIRE SPECIAL) or just 236A and finish combo.

Note: the last 5B kick sometimes will miss, depends on the distance. so, u can just skip the last kick if too far.

For time (AHF version)
2DC -> 5B -> *flashk* dash -> 5A,B *flashk* dash -> 5A,B *flashk* 6B, *flashk* 6B, *flashk* 6B, 2C -> 236A, AC (stop) -> *delay a very short while* 5B.

the 5B should hit, when the enemy somehow bounces up. change the last command to
"instant 2B" for AH ver.

As to how to do the flashkick,

214A~C 5B
This must be quite* fast, and not very fast..
is like 1/4 of a second for u to press A to C.
so is like A then C..

Or another way,
214AC, AC, 5B
this is the way i think u should do if u cant do previous.

Such that, u 214 press AC together, and then 2nd time AC together too.. This can be done very fast.
So, is like u just hit the AC 2x quickly
so is like dashing backwards and stop at same time. Then kick.

those that i put 6B kicks, u have to really use 6B kicks.. for some height control thing.. xD

i think thats all..

if got any question can post here..

i might not able to reply asap,
but will try to answer them..

xD

hope this helps..

Thank you!!

[Tiggy]

On snap, Xlenz!!!!!! :lovin:

Thanks for the info! *Stickied to my brain*

I've already learned the notations a while back, but my execution just sucks. I managed to do the time reset yesterday for the first time (after about 5 months or so), so I'm starting to really understand how everything works after practicing Lilica for what seems like forever.

[Xlenz]

Tiggy: xD is okay.

u just need to keep practice.
and let the combo become a habit.. xD

hmm.. time lilica also took me quite long to learn.

the interest is like come and go, and come back again.
then after a short while, it goes again. xD

Lilica has a very high but slow learning curve.

such that, u can learn more and more new/ possible things (almost never ending), but at slower learning rate at higher level.

so is okay if u learn for a long time.. haha

I think if u have problems to do flashkick, u could use the 214AC, AC method.
that one would be better i think.

It'll be like u pressing AC together to dash, and AC together to stop, at a fast speed.
so no need much complex 214A~C which requires timing..

You could start of with some basic arcana like fire.
And after u got your kicks combo fine, then switch to time and play.. xD

thats what i did too!

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The sad thing is in AH2, there is no more 5B kicks combo. =s

[Tiggy]

Tiggy: xD is okay.

u just need to keep practice.
and let the combo become a habit.. xD

hmm.. time lilica also took me quite long to learn.

the interest is like come and go, and come back again.
then after a short while, it goes again. xD

Lilica has a very high but slow learning curve.

such that, u can learn more and more new/ possible things (almost never ending), but at slower learning rate at higher level.
so is okay if u learn for a long time.. haha

I think if u have problems to do flashkick, u could use the 214AC, AC method.
that one would be better i think.

It'll be like u pressing AC together to dash, and AC together to stop, at a fast speed.
so no need much complex 214A~C which requires timing..

You could start of with some basic arcana like fire.
And after u got your kicks combo fine, then switch to time and play.. xD

thats what i did too!

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The sad thing is in AH2, there is no more 5B kicks combo. =s

You know, that's exactly how it's been for me with Lilica. I almost wanted to entirely give up on her on a few occasions, but it just wouldn't feel right without her. Can't live with her, can't live without her :/

As for Flash Step, I think I'm just going to stick with 214A+C, since I've already put so much effort into it. I'm just going to stick to it and work even harder. I've made the most improvements yesterday in training mode than I did before, so I'm very happy with where I am at the moment.

And I've been thinking about using Love Lilica next time I play AH2. I do got lots of love for Dorothy, but Lilica is just too much fun.

[NappyJin]

Playing with Fire has finally helped me to understand Flash Step a lot better.




That's actually the first Arcana I started using with Lilica. That's what I was going to use at SB. And I have something super-special in store. =3 It's gonna be fun.

[DS]

Looks like I'm gonna have to dust off Arcana and go into training mode.

[meta]

What?! I was going to use fire Lilica at sb3!

Guess I'll go Time Liese.

[orka]

i'll be there to loop you all and talk about bubz

[NappyJin]

I use 214A~A+C...and it's a pain in the ass.


GO TIME LIESE!!!!

I'll play Fire Lilica in casuals, so I can hit Yosh with one combo and take all of his life like at ACen that one game. I have too much fun with Water to stop using it now. I'd go with Time, but I'm too lazy for all that mess.

I'm gonna be putzing around with Time Saki a bit before the tourney. So let's do this. I will also have a stick this time around, but I'm not using it...at least, I haven't decided yet. Maybe next tourney.

And all bub talk is fine with me, Yosh. We gotta hang out, most definitely.

[orka]

i haven't played ah1 in like... a while. i should practice. :x

at sb3, it's all about raising cane's chicken strips.

[NappyJin]

i haven't played ah1 in like... a while. i should practice. :x

at sb3, it's all about raising cane's chicken strips.

Chicken strips? Sounds interesting, but I can't partake of them.

[Tiggy]

I use 214A~A+C...and it's a pain in the ass.


GO TIME LIESE!!!!

I'll play Fire Lilica in casuals, so I can hit Yosh with one combo and take all of his life like at ACen that one game. I have too much fun with Water to stop using it now. I'd go with Time, but I'm too lazy for all that mess.

I'm gonna be putzing around with Time Saki a bit before the tourney. So let's do this. I will also have a stick this time around, but I'm not using it...at least, I haven't decided yet. Maybe next tourney.

And all bub talk is fine with me, Yosh. We gotta hang out, most definitely

I can't use that.....it's really hard for me to do it and have the timing right.

And I would use dat stick, Mei-Fang's IAD combos are really easy on stick :bgrin: You should use Time Lilica Nappy, your Lilica is more than ready for dem Time hacks.

I'm gonna use several characters,