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BlackShinobi
08-31-2007, 02:40 AM
So if i do Kira's 2B 623C 236A+B+C when activated and you get hit by it, will you promise to seek counseling?


Try and catch me blobby, clocks ticking. :arazz:

Hyperhal
08-31-2007, 03:02 AM
I need to win the upcoming tourney badly, I need the funds :confused:

Tip of the day:

When mashing a super such as Yoriko's grab super or Plant super, not only does mashing buttons help, but it also helps to jiggle the stick. Whenever you see me mashing my supers, I'm mashing the stick as well for a reason.

Bonus Tip:

When you're low on funds to play Arcana, bumming change off of other people helps greatly in acquiring the funds to play such a game.

G.O.T
08-31-2007, 03:07 AM
lol @ woof's how to play arcana vid.

peskypurple
08-31-2007, 05:29 AM
Okay good tips all. Especially the clashing tips (SmAznDde) and the dash recovery tips (Sabin). Concerning the clashing I would clash with Konoha with a 2A and then when I'd go for 2A again I'd stand. For the life of me, I (and others) couldn't figure out what was going on. I chalked it up to user error but now that I know, I know. Concerniing the d-recovery the throw tip is gold.

1 question. Last night me and Eric were clashing moves just to see the timing and options and I noticed that if you do a 3C or 6C after clashing on the ground you get another clash, the question is will you always get another clash (on the ground) if you use this method: initial clash, 4C, 6C,4C, 6C....

Does that work or will some moves not be clashable.

Peskypurple's Tip of the day: When going to buy french fries in philadelphia, hold 4C or 6C to (hopefully) clash the assault of your would be attacker. If knocked on the floor hold D (or just cover your head, the fetal position) to recover. You may also want to play a guessing game with your op, bring along two wallets. One with your real money and one with a five second explosive implanted inside, whatever you do don't confuse wallets (RIP Uncle Lou).

BlackShinobi
08-31-2007, 06:38 AM
I need to win the upcoming tourney badly, I need the funds :confused:



You need to win? I need to win to make philly the official scrub capital of Arcana heart :rofl:
I'll beat your ass and then ask you for help. Too good.

I went past the arcade earlier and saw Billy I'm about to head back And see if I can get Arcana moved to the other side.

Tip: When looking for vids on youtube try typing arcana heart or characters names in Japanese. Different vids come up from when you enter it in english.
you can just cut and paste

Arcana heart = アルカナハート
konoha = このは
liselotte = リーゼロッテ
lilica = リリカ
Kira = きら
Saki = 冴姫
Kamui = 神依
heart = はぁと

Meh I'm lazy I'll put the rest later

orka
08-31-2007, 08:44 AM
the ps2 opening looks awesome

...it still has annoying music though

Bacardi
08-31-2007, 08:52 AM
arturo you back inn nyc yet or trapped in jap land still?

Anakron
08-31-2007, 09:00 AM
Anyone else going to CF today?

ANAKRON'S TIP OF THE DAY:Learn when to burst! Learn your opp's combo's so you'll know when to burst! Don't burst too late or else you'll regret it OR you'll get punished. Find yourself getting caught in a loop? Don't burst the third time around!

EX TIPWatch the fuck out for Konoha's grab super on her wakeup.

HeartNana
08-31-2007, 09:02 AM
To add to the list (cause some characters names are written in both kanji and katakana)
Arcana heart = アルカナハート
konoha = このは
liselotte = リーゼロッテ or リーゼ
lilica = リリカ
Kira = きら
Saki = 冴姫 or サキ
Kamui = 神依 or カムイ
heart = はぁと
Mei Fang = 美凰 or メイファン
Maori = 舞織 or マオリ 
Fiona = フィオナ
Yoriko = 頼子

someAzNdude
08-31-2007, 09:14 AM
1 question. Last night me and Eric were clashing moves just to see the timing and options and I noticed that if you do a 3C or 6C after clashing on the ground you get another clash, the question is will you always get another clash (on the ground) if you use this method: initial clash, 4C, 6C,4C, 6C....

Does that work or will some moves not be clashable.

Some characters in the game have normals with start up clash frames some examples of that are Kira's 6C boot, Mei Fang's 4A, Heart's 5B, Konoha's 3B and others. During the start of the moves the opponent can clash against it if they attack, this is an excellent way of punishing rush downs if you can anticipate the opponent's next move by purposely throwing out clashables.
And yes, you can repeatedly go for clashes if the opponent has a one track mind but why bother when you can just punish...

Ken's Tip of the Post:
!WARNING! Learning Lilica's loop can cripple your hand!
Learn at your own discretion :sad:

Master Chibi
08-31-2007, 09:28 AM
Chibi's tip - When losing, make sure to call the game a piece of shit no less then TWENTY FIVE TIMES and then point at your opponent and call him a super bitch. Afterwards immediately treat yourself to some ice cream, it'll be great.

woof
08-31-2007, 09:45 AM
youre all trendy shits


meanwhile i draw on arcana art bbses
http://w7.oekakies.com/p/arcana/p.cgi
only way i can stay hype right now besides watching oldass vids lol

orka
08-31-2007, 09:48 AM
i'm stylin'... what do you expect?

also, lol @ chibi's tip. ice cream makes you fat, mang.

Hyperhal
08-31-2007, 09:56 AM
Peskypurple's Tip of the day: When going to buy French fries in Philadelphia, hold 4C or 6C to (hopefully) clash the assault of your would be attacker. If knocked on the floor hold D (or just cover your head, the fetal position) to recover. You may also want to play a guessing game with your op, bring along two wallets. One with your real money and one with a five second explosive implanted inside, whatever you do don't confuse wallets (RIP Uncle Lou).

Somebody hand this man an award, he just won the match. :rofl:

You need to win? I need to win to make philly the official scrub capital of Arcana heart :rofl:
I'll beat your ass and then ask you for help. Too good.

I went past the arcade earlier and saw Billy I'm about to head back And see if I can get Arcana moved to the other side.r

Yo, I wouldn't be surprised if like some random guy like trap ends up winning the fucking tourney. I love to choke when it matters, so anyone can pretty much win. Not to mention you lamers get way more practice in than the great Hyperhal. Good stuff with the machine, try to get it on a machine that melty blood could be near as well. Hell no at putting it on a small cab, Arcana don't take that shit.

Chibi's tip - When losing, make sure to call the game a piece of shit no less then TWENTY FIVE TIMES and then point at your opponent and call him a super bitch. Afterwards immediately treat yourself to some ice cream, it'll be great.

Those top tier strats can only be countered by using the strats Arturo developed himself, named "Go the fuck home and level that shit up."

I want some Ice Cream now, dammit.

Tip of the Day:

When Hyperhal wants to tech when being hit into a combo, he holds the D button with his thumb, and presses A and B with his index and middle finger respectively.

Bonus tip: If you find yourself getting into a clash battle with Kamui and she has at least one meter, try to finish it before Kamui can rush super you. The only way I know of stopping this move is with another super, and if you don't have the super/use it wrong you're screwed.

someAzNdude
08-31-2007, 10:28 AM
Tip of the Day:

When Hyperhal wants to tech when being hit into a combo, he holds the D button with his thumb, and presses A and B with his index and middle finger respectively.



lol I do that too :rofl:
But I think we should stop doing that in certain situations because teching is not always a good thing, especially against a Kira player. Getting grabbed for free is not a good thing in my opinion... :/

Ken's Tip of the Post:
Maori is teh sex
Kneel before her awesome-ness

Bonus tip:
Try not to stay in the range of unblockables when playing against an opponent. When you find yourself in the air for whatever reason near an opponent with air unblockable moves like Kamui's 3B try to escape the range by homing away or jump away, or if you're getting juggled by a block string guard cancel forward or back depending on the situation.

SweetJohnnyCage
08-31-2007, 10:42 AM
Hey guys, I was just wondering how Leiselotte's loop combo and which arcana does it work best with? I can't seem to get it down. Thanks!

someAzNdude
08-31-2007, 10:56 AM
Wow thats a tough one, I've always wondered that myself since I wanted to learn Liese as well.
I think the arcanas that go good with Liese are Lightning and Poison and as for the loop some one else here might help you with that as I have no clue how to perform it properly.
Good luck with learning Liese, its nice to see more people taking interest in this game because Arcana Heart is awesome :)

orka
08-31-2007, 10:59 AM
Good luck with learning Liese, its nice to see more people taking interest in this game because Arcana Heart is awesome :)

i don't think i would be if i was satisfied with accent core. but i'm definitely not... so power to dat.

Nastrodamus
08-31-2007, 12:46 PM
damn... nah trap ain't winning the tourney... he'll lose the fire fiona mirrior to me... lol

phae
08-31-2007, 01:30 PM
Hey guys, I was just wondering how Leiselotte's loop combo and which arcana does it work best with? I can't seem to get it down. Thanks!

Jesus christ someone else interested in learning Lieselotte! I'm happy!

I think the best arcana for Lieselotte's looping awesomeness is poison but I have seen some more amazing things happen with Lightning. Sadly I suck at both arcanas still so I am still running Gier Lieselotte.

Good luck to learning her, from what I have realized so far is that she's really hard - I haven't beaten a single person yet using her. :(

Master Chibi
08-31-2007, 01:37 PM
USE YOUR BUTT

:o

orka
08-31-2007, 01:41 PM
USE YOUR BUTT

:o

you forgot to type "NO HOMO"



hey, so is lieselotte like a eddie equivalent in this game... except weak? and there really isn't anybody that plays quite like dizzy or aoko (heavy projectile space control and mix/ups) in this game right?

Master Chibi
08-31-2007, 02:01 PM
you forgot to type "NO HOMO"

phae is a girl :lovin:

hey, so is lieselotte like a eddie equivalent in this game... except weak? and there really isn't anybody that plays quite like dizzy or aoko (heavy projectile space control and mix/ups) in this game right?

lieselotte is just as scary as eddie, and fuck even though her puppet can be knocked out of play for a bit, if she uses gier arcana it's ALMOST just as annoying (I really haven't seen liese users whore out gier though).

And if you want spacing and mix ups, go with Maori.

She has bubz too, second biggest, FIRST NATURAL~

Makoto Scrub
08-31-2007, 02:29 PM
phae is a girl :lovin:
ZOMG no wai! Ip



And if you want spacing and mix ups, go with Maori.

She has bubz too, second biggest, FIRST NATURAL~
Her sister mite have bigger bubz. ;)

Which reminds me; anyone have reading material on the matter?

woof
08-31-2007, 02:37 PM
you forgot to type "NO HOMO"



hey, so is lieselotte like a eddie equivalent in this game... except weak?
lieses dumb in her own way lol

and there really isn't anybody that plays quite like dizzy or aoko (heavy projectile space control and mix/ups) in this game right?
maori can play like that if you wanna

Hyperhal
08-31-2007, 03:58 PM
lol I do that too :rofl:

Top tier stratz used by top tier playerz, at this pace Japan will be kneeling before America in no time!

Tip of the Day:

When fighting against an opponent of is playing keep away, think about the situation before attacking. Do you have more health than the opponent? If so, whats the point of you fighting any more if you're guaranteed a time out victory? The same goes for you, don't try and play keepaway and act like you're scared of the opponent if you have less than 20% health, get out there and make something happen.

HeartNana
08-31-2007, 06:18 PM
you forgot to type "NO HOMO"



hey, so is lieselotte like a eddie equivalent in this game... except weak? and there really isn't anybody that plays quite like dizzy or aoko (heavy projectile space control and mix/ups) in this game right?
I guess Liese is kinda like Eddy in that they have assistance and if it gets hit you have to wait before it can do anything again.

And to whoever said Liese + gier is scary, i disagree (to an extent, gier is always good...), because the puppet acts as a gier, so you dont need an arcana that does the same thing as what the character already has, hence why lightning and poison are so good.

As for heavy projectile space control and mixups, just use certain arcana's and an agressive character and you can achieve similar results as using Maori.

But Maori would be what youre looking for if you want a buncha stuff out on the screen at once and stuff.

Tip of the post - Not every arcana goes well with every character. At the same time, not every arcana is useless except the top 2 with every character either.

orka
08-31-2007, 07:24 PM
hey, thanks to everybody that keep clearing retarded questions for me (esp woof and HeartNana). nice community you guys have. :tup:

tip of the day: now, it'll be even better if ALL of you appreciated huge melons.

phae
09-01-2007, 07:45 AM
Last night at CF I played a couple more matches as Lieselotte, and then realized that as adorable as Lieselotte Achenbach is, and how much I really like the idea of the doll setups and crazy shit happening is that learning her at this point is really light years above and beyond my ability.

Ken let me play around as Maori for a bit and I think I prefer her to Lieselotte. @A@;; Sorry Lieselotte~

Anywho, Ken plays Fire Maori, I was wondering what the other decent options for Maori are? Gier isn't really that sort of option since I think what Gier does can be done through good use of the sisters (also, the sister that you need to do 22 for has issues coming out on I believe the 1P side of the cab at CF, someone needs to nag either Derrick or Henry about that), so I was just wondering what the other options could be? I searched through the threads honest but so much has changed between then and now really - I'm not asking for loops and stuff just arcana picking advice.

Doesn't mean I will TAKE your advice but I will probably give it a shot since I am young and I like to experiment 8D

Hyperhal
09-01-2007, 07:55 AM
I was wondering what the other decent options for Maori are?

The thing with Maori is that shes great at keepaway, but pretty much fails at life in general. This can be remedied by giving her witch clothes, having her befriend a staff by the name of spike, and changing her name to Yoriko. This is proven to turn lives around in the right direction.

Tip of the Day:

You can't mash blindly, theres a certain rhythem you must follow if you wish to get the maximum amount of mash-age out of your supers. The same could be said for Konoha's grab super. You just can't spin out of control, you have to do it at a certain speed to get the max out of it.

Makoto Scrub
09-01-2007, 08:10 AM
The thing with Maori is that shes great at keepaway, but pretty much fails at life in general. This can be remedied by giving her witch clothes, having her befriend a staff by the name of spike, and changing her name to Yoriko. This is proven to turn lives around in the right direction.
Its a good thing you didnt go off topic and forget to answer the question, right? :rolleyes:

Anyway, the arcana's you can use for a basic as hell Maori are: Lightning, Love and Fire. These are basically used for extra keep away.

Tip of the day: No one should really be posting these unless you're Rob, Art or Ken. :arazz:

phae
09-01-2007, 08:20 AM
Anyway, the arcana's you can use for a basic as hell Maori are: Lightning, Love and Fire. These are basically used for extra keep away.


Love? People really use that? :sweat: I'll mess around with Lightning Maori during the week and see where that goes. I don't like fire because well, it's fire. :looney:

someAzNdude
09-01-2007, 09:43 AM
Mwuahahaha I converted phae to Maori-ism >:D
So yeah, the arcana of choice for Maori in my opinion would be wind, lightning, poison and time those would be the top choices. Other options would be fire and love, but they won't be as useful as the other ones mentioned.
Oh and phae when ever you go to CF I'll give you a crash course in awesomeness of Maori :D

Ken's Tip of the Post:
A certain someone in here who uses bubz needs to get his ass to CF more often and get DAT LOOP DOWN >:(
Yeah you know who I'm talking about :)

Bonus Tip:
Anti-Air Clashing
Certain Characters have normals with start up clash frames, these are excellent for defensive/offensive options especially against jump-ins and IADs. When anticipation an attack and read the opponent's jump in, you can throw out the normal with the clash start up to clash with the incoming attack and then use A to hit them up for an air combo. Here are some examples of moves with start up clash frames.
Heart's 5B
Saki's 6B
Mei Fang's 4A
Kira's 6C
Maori's 5C
Konoha's 3B
These moves are great to fend off jump-ins and IAD rush downs, so make a habit of using them in matches.

Anakron
09-01-2007, 10:53 AM
(also, the sister that you need to do 22 for has issues coming out on I believe the 1P side of the cab at CF

Blame me for busting out too many 360's. :arazz:
I believe I've gotten a bit better, but I'm still too predictable. Other than learning Kira's loop, what are ways to get better?

HeartNana
09-01-2007, 11:11 AM
Anakron - Maximize the damage from each setup you do, and maximize the ability to get it in the biggest reward for little risk situation. So you dont always need to end your combos with the most damage, but ending with the best setup so you can keep pressure on is the best choice. With Kira, learn to throw people after they tech.

Tip of the Post:
While you can use those moves to clash, if you're on the defensive and you GET clashed, you can use a homing bar and HC4 away so you dont get hit by the next move that character. does. There's more than just those, Lilica's 4_5_6B, Mei Fang's 5B, etc. Not every move has clash properties, but there are more than just the ones listed.

And also, if your opponent is doing offense like "hit hit iad", before the iad, if you know that they're gonna do it, dash forward, you'll go UNDER them, and you hit them for free. However, if they continue and do "hit hit hit" and you dash forward, you're gonna get hit instead. Try to read the opponent and make them fear patterns.

phae
09-01-2007, 11:13 AM
Blame me for busting out too many 360's. :arazz:

No i'm just blaming CF for having shitty knockoff sticks.

Makoto Scrub
09-01-2007, 11:29 AM
Ken's Tip of the Post:
A certain someone in here who uses bubz needs to get his ass to CF more often and get DAT LOOP DOWN >:(
Yeah you know who I'm talking about :)
My question is: Who doesnt know how to get the loop down at this point? Other than that I can do everything else just fine.

Nastrodamus
09-01-2007, 01:21 PM
MS: there are others that can post some knowledge other than rob, art, ken.... but i tend to agree if you not going to drop some knowledge stfu.....

Tip of the day- time your GC's!!! for example if you see a string that an person does alot or you know is going to end with long recovery move... GC b that shit an punish that stuff... learn to time your GC's... valuable to success.. also you can also air GC.... learn to use it every now and then to prevent some air strings that lead the person being able to land a do a AA into combos

Master Chibi
09-01-2007, 03:24 PM
Ok, stop the fucking tip a post shit.

TIP OF THE DAY:

Seriously stop it.

:annoy:

Gorehound
09-01-2007, 03:27 PM
OK everybody, I don't know if this has been posted yet but here are some pics I took last night :bgrin:

Mildred art
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/PIC-0025.jpg

Spoilers!!!

Mildred defeated
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/PIC-0023.jpg

Kamui's Ending Art
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/PIC-0024.jpg

Blobbo Girl and possibly Mei-Fang's twin sister
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/PIC-0026.jpg

Mei-fan's Ending art (same pics, but different look)
WARNING!!!
SEXY ECHIINESS x1000
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/PIC-0029.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/PIC-0030.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/PIC-0031.jpg

I only had my phone camera so the pics aren't high quality!

I'm going for Maori's ending next!

Whats the purpose of whether you beat Mildred shell or not?

G.O.T
09-01-2007, 03:45 PM
Mildred equals beatmeat.

TempestFox
09-01-2007, 04:44 PM
Tip of the day:

On top of Chibi getting annoyed easily, it's also funny as hell.


Do it as often as possible!



Ohyeah, and the sticks at CF suck. I can't IAD worth shit on them.

Sabin
09-01-2007, 10:37 PM
Ok, stop the fucking tip a post shit.

TIP OF THE DAY:

Seriously stop it.

:annoy:
yo man conribute SOMETHING plz...

how would u like it if i went over to meltybread and spammed he forums about how much i hate this game/how pissed off it makes me/how much it sux? im sure youd be annoyed as hell.

i mean even if you bitched and posted something like a vid or something or asked a gameplay question i wouldnt mind...but damn youve been spamming for the most part through all of 2 threads. can u please stop already? its getting really annoying, we know your attitude about this game like 10000x over. if you want to get better, well help you. if not, plz dont sulk and complain in public. it accomplishes nothing

Master Chibi
09-01-2007, 10:45 PM
oh give me a fucking break art

damn ill just stay the hell out of the thread until october

Sabin
09-01-2007, 10:53 PM
why dont you just ask us for help? if youre upset that u suck, then well help you, but u have to want it. as is now you have a negatve aura and its really killing my drive to post. i dont mind that you spam but GOD DAMN every page.

so do u want help, or not?

Demon_Hyo
09-01-2007, 10:59 PM
Ok I've pretty much done all of my experimenting in the lab with Saki and lightning arcana. But is there any other one good with her? Fire maybe?

[SLAYER]chaos
09-01-2007, 11:09 PM
Demon were you the Saki that was at UP earlier? If so I was the white kid playing the bad Kamui.

Harem
09-01-2007, 11:09 PM
Ok I've pretty much done all of my experimenting in the lab with Saki and lightning arcana. But is there any other one good with her? Fire maybe?

Wind works pretty well with her. You can pushblock and shit too.

Demon_Hyo
09-01-2007, 11:14 PM
chaos;4248464']Demon were you the Saki that was at UP earlier? If so I was the white kid playing the bad Kamui.

Yep, the red/white Saki. That was me



Wind works pretty well with her. You can pushblock and shit too.

Yea I like wind. I haven't tried it with Saki yet, but I think I will.

Anakron
09-01-2007, 11:35 PM
Ok I've pretty much done all of my experimenting in the lab with Saki and lightning arcana. But is there any other one good with her? Fire maybe?

Fire works good too. Charged Cs and air fireballs are your new best friend.

Demon_Hyo
09-01-2007, 11:48 PM
Fire works good too. Charged Cs and air fireballs are your new best friend.

Yea I was really interested in trying that out. Any place I can see some vids of her using fire? I've only seen lightning so far.

Demon_Hyo
09-02-2007, 12:09 AM
Hmm so there's mooooooore eh? Haha ok then I'll have to experiment for myself. I have seen some good tactics that I didn't do while I was playing because I really was just trying to focus on learning the game again since I dropped it for evo marvel training. I'll check it out because I wanna learn everything I can because I can already feel myself adapting to this game in in due time.


Also, I guess I need new Saki vids in general. With lightning and fire arcana if possible. Where are some up to date links?

BlackShinobi
09-02-2007, 12:15 AM
chaos;4248464']Demon were you the Saki that was at UP earlier? If so I was the white kid playing the bad Kamui.

You should come down next saturday for the tournament. I figured you were SRK because you knew to muck to have just walked in off the street and seen this game for the first time.

HeartNana
09-02-2007, 12:47 AM
Dhyo - Water and Gier are good for most characters, too. Try those out with Saki.
I've been seeing a lot of love Saki recently, too. I think just go through the arcana's more and find whichever one you like using and then stick to that. There's not really a "one right choice" as the Saki player who did best in SBO was using friggin plant, which is arguably the worst arcana. O_O

Demon_Hyo
09-02-2007, 02:06 AM
Dhyo - Water and Gier are good for most characters, too. Try those out with Saki.
I've been seeing a lot of love Saki recently, too. I think just go through the arcana's more and find whichever one you like using and then stick to that. There's not really a "one right choice" as the Saki player who did best in SBO was using friggin plant, which is arguably the worst arcana. O_O

Yes I agree on the plant comment o_o And yea, I'll just try the Arcana's out and see what works best for me.

Sabin
09-02-2007, 02:10 AM
theres never a correct choice in arcana, it depends on ur playstyle to make it work really, brandon.

ive seen the oddest arcana combinations definetely work well.im assuming youd want to rush down, right? then maybe u should try water saki, water works well with rushdown characters, cause you can knock the opponent own, activate water super with the water bubbles around u, and u can attack semi-safely. they can stlll grab u tho so u have to watch out for that. fire = raw damage. wind = mobility, keep out as well as rushdown options. so yeah it all depends.

btw, there are some saki vids at http://www.pasopi-tokyo.com/ -> check the movie link, the first 4 vids at the top are from AHF. there is a saki in there for sure, as i checked this link last week.

i believe there are some saki vids also on youtube at ahdouga.

heres my tip of the day, im sure ull find this useful as a saki player -

when doing 6 HC/GC and holding down the D button, while u are moving forward, as long as u hold down he button, u can enter inputs as ur body is going forward. This enables characters like Saki to GC into a flashkick -> super, which is hella good when u are on defense. It also allows kira to enter the input for her comand throws, without fear of jumping. This is why in a lot of vids, u see Kira HC/GC forward into a ground grab super like it's nothing.

At this rate, everyone is gonna use these tips and be better than us, lol >_>

Hyperhal
09-02-2007, 08:00 AM
I was actually gonna come into the arcade yesterday after receiving a $10 donation(and a camera too, what are the chances), but then I thought twice and decided to save it for Saturday.

Tip of the Day:

By posting tips, you help the community to improve.

Bonus Tip:

We really don't want the community to improve, it makes it harder to win. :(

phae
09-02-2007, 08:29 AM
I think maybe sometime soon us NYC players (and maybe some of the Philly folks if they feel like it) should have a meetup.

At first it could just be at CF since Arcana is not console but once it hits console we could probably swap it for Web2Zone - I dont know how w2z works but ehhh.

I just think we need to organize ourselves more into playing together more often. I know that Zack Shinor's school Metrocard activates on Monday so hopefully we'll see more of him (son you go to Lane, grab the J to Canal and walk over it's like a 25 minute trip don't bitch), as well as the other kids who are still in HS.

So yea. Get organized. Discuss.

XAQshinor
09-02-2007, 10:56 AM
I just think we need to organize ourselves more into playing together more often. I know that Zack Shinor's school Metrocard activates on Monday so hopefully we'll see more of him (son you go to Lane, grab the J to Canal and walk over it's like a 25 minute trip don't bitch), as well as the other kids who are still in HS.

i aint bitching im hype! :3

Nastrodamus
09-02-2007, 01:54 PM
i wouldn't mind that at all..... like i said in the philly threads and tourney threads... once i get this nice job rolling... im gonna start adding pot bonus..(more money =more players imo) because i believe the dedication is there in the city of brotherly love...some got that nice excution and some got the mind games part down... im actually looking foward to the tourney cuse of the simple fact that..people will finally test in like a stressful situation if they strats or what they learned was good enough....

since fire fiona is out of the question now(god damn fire fiona player) im gonna try out some time or plant (yea so what? seed traps buddy)... maybe ill still go fire.. but time is defenitely calling me...

WonderTonic
09-02-2007, 08:49 PM
i wouldn't mind that at all..... like i said in the philly threads and tourney threads... once i get this nice job rolling... im gonna start adding pot bonus..(more money =more players imo) because i believe the dedication is there in the city of brotherly love...some got that nice excution and some got the mind games part down... im actually looking foward to the tourney cuse of the simple fact that..people will finally test in like a stressful situation if they strats or what they learned was good enough....

since fire fiona is out of the question now(god damn fire fiona player) im gonna try out some time or plant (yea so what? seed traps buddy)... maybe ill still go fire.. but time is defenitely calling me...


Pot Bonus? Mofo you need a damn car:rofl:

Anyway I planned on waiting for the console release, but i think i -might- head to UP sometime this week and try it out. I would like to have some experience in this game before getting raped in JP

Was trying to figure out when you were going so I can be schooled, but um... getting a hold of you is damn impossible.

[SLAYER]chaos
09-02-2007, 09:19 PM
You should come down next saturday for the tournament. I figured you were SRK because you knew to muck to have just walked in off the street and seen this game for the first time.

I'm pretty sure I'll be there for the tournament. And I'm gonna try and go down friday too, to try and get some practice in.

Nastrodamus
09-03-2007, 12:14 PM
Pot Bonus? Mofo you need a damn car:rofl:

Anyway I planned on waiting for the console release, but i think i -might- head to UP sometime this week and try it out. I would like to have some experience in this game before getting raped in JP

Was trying to figure out when you were going so I can be schooled, but um... getting a hold of you is damn impossible.


dog... im available during the week... but also im gonna be there friday (sorry mike) cuse i gots to get practice in....so if you like to go... then lemme know... cuse dog i think you'll do real good at this game with more practice sessions... for christ sake... you play fucking zappa in GG... saturday...im heading there for a tourney..so if you want to come with me and randall than cool...


and amazon is on the way mofo... ill have a car by like oct or nov.

Anakron
09-03-2007, 12:21 PM
Yea I was really interested in trying that out. Any place I can see some vids of her using fire? I've only seen lightning so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dd7n44ewgg
Some nice Saki stuff. Not fire based though. Mostly combos with different Arcanas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=314WrhkM8RM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8FGv6H_GvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whGYWjWtrFQ
Saki/Fire
Most of them just show her connecting combos using the fire arcana, but you could pressure opp with air fireballs and mixups.

Hyperhal
09-03-2007, 08:03 PM
Alright so basically my house has no internet, I DID record matches of arcana, but somebody took the SD card out of my camera so I'm really pissed right now.

Yo, this tourney isn't gonna be free at all, time out of playing arcana has really affected the way I play.

BlackShinobi
09-03-2007, 08:37 PM
I showed hyperhal that dash I was talking about, its faster than neutral D. Although I still don't know how to control it.

woof
09-03-2007, 09:20 PM
*SIGH* less than 40 days until release guys...

thats a long time...i guess..

Master Chibi
09-03-2007, 10:17 PM
Well apparently the entire #Arcana room is mad at me for my childish actions in this thread, so I'd like to apologize (again) for my behavior.

I have no real questions with this game at the time (I don't feel like going to CF to do much anything) so I'll wait until the release date to start spamming questions on proper BnB's and what not.

And no, I still can't do Fiona's BnB.

Go figure.

woof
09-04-2007, 04:45 AM
its OK fiona has 20 bnbs now

Faight
09-04-2007, 04:59 AM
Where is the best place to purchase a Japanese ps2/arcana/etc? I would like to get this game and I'm kicking myself for not picking up a ps2 before I left Japan this past February.

40ish days, but I probably won't get to play until December when I come home. I is a sad man.

woof
09-04-2007, 05:00 AM
just in time for NEC .. ..

peskypurple
09-04-2007, 09:35 AM
I'm not entirely experience in this game but I've played only Saki and pretty much any arcana. I've found that if you play with certain arcana's you'll play style will have to change. I personally like lightening and wind, wind seems to work pretty well against konoha too.

someAzNdude
09-04-2007, 09:41 AM
triple air jump, double air dash, and push block how can you go wrong? :)

Hyperhal
09-04-2007, 10:10 AM
By not selecting Yoriko OOOOHHHHHHHHHH

Master Chibi
09-04-2007, 10:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VbNiG8bdIU

Plant Heart?

Heart Plant?

Lightning Lilica~

HeartNana
09-04-2007, 10:46 AM
Interesting choice of Arcana for Heart.

One note about that match is that the heart player is better than the Lilica player, and its pretty clear. However, the match came really close cause plant doesnt really do THAT much. Heart had to work so hard to setup seeds that never worked. The only ones that did work were ones that were just sitting there that the Lilica ran into.

And then Lilica abused the lightning when doing the air charge 6C to clash and then doing air super and such, she had to work less to get the damage.

Seeing new character/arcana combinations in action is always a good thing tho. :D

peskypurple
09-04-2007, 11:16 AM
Question: Do you have to block the plant bite low?

HeartNana
09-04-2007, 11:21 AM
Answer: Yes.

Also keep in mind you can destroy the seeds by hitting them, both in the air and on the ground. =P

orka
09-04-2007, 11:44 AM
why didn't examu just make plant more powerful in full?

woof
09-04-2007, 12:39 PM
technically they did make it better but they didnt improve what needed to be changed

like seeds being destroyed even when their on the ground which is pretty lame

peskypurple
09-04-2007, 12:45 PM
I don't know if this was covered elsewhere but an interesting point was brought up. What changes were instituted in AH:Full compared to AH. I know that some chars were tuned down but what else?

Sabin
09-04-2007, 12:45 PM
orka: thats like asking, why didnt examu tweak time arcana in full? (actually i dont remember if time go any changes or not, actually i dont think time got any changes but im too lazy to look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqA3h9NMp0

the short answer is that the game had not reached its peak by the time the patch was released and examu probably didnt know what they were doin. lol.
i worked out fine balance wise but yeah i dont know why they didnt make i more powerful.

there are some good setups with plant seeds tho...plant lilica i play against here has unblockables with lilica loop, plant super that puts seeds on the floor, continue comboing into lilica loop, otg and then iad for ambiguous crossup that hits as the seed hits them so its prety much unblockable

still hard to make that arcana work tho.

Master Chibi
09-04-2007, 12:50 PM
:rofl: @ that Meifang flying all the way up there and just getting SPD'd anyway.

woof
09-04-2007, 12:57 PM
I don't know if this was covered elsewhere but an interesting point was brought up. What changes were instituted in AH:Full compared to AH. I know that some chars were tuned down but what else?
fionas giant unblockable happy meal super no longer HCable all i cared about ;A;

woof
09-04-2007, 01:01 PM
ok here we go

Source: Arcana Heart Heartmatic Collection
Translator: fubarduck

This is the final list of changes for Arcana Heart Full from the Arcana Heart Heartmatic Collection. The errata from http://www.arcadiamagazine.com/errata/arcadia_extra_42_errata.pdf has been incorporated in the changes list.

System Engine Universal Changes:
- Training Mode is added
- CPU difficulty has been adjusted
- There are 3 new colors with every character (Start + button)
- Homing backwards in the air now has the same invincibility time with every character
- All characters' defense power/guts rating have been balanced.
- All characters now have the same behavior after a clash occurs during a Guard Cancel 6+D
- You can now turn off sound for Demonstration Mode in the Service Menu.

Aino Heart
- Combos started with a Jump A were given a damage correction
- Heartful Punch's command input now takes priority over a Ribbon Beam / Various corrections have been made to the version that hits an airborne opponent during the rising portion of the move / Various corrections have been made to the mid-air version
- The organization of Ribbon Beam's frames has been changed / the hit box has been extended/magnified behind her
- The start-up time on Special Kick has been increased
- Tekken Love Punch has been modified to not cause clashing
- Su~goi Heartful Punch cannot be cancelled during the first portion of the move / Damage reduced if all hits don't connect when hitting an airborne opponent / Damage reduced if all hits don't connect with the air version; other performance changes

Tsuzura Saki
- Combos started with Jump A were given a damage correction
- The organization of 6+C's frames has been changed
- Jump 3+C's push-back time and guard start-up time have been shortened
- When Orna is whiffed or guarded, Saki goes straight to the ground / on hit, the opponent is bounced with a possibility to follow up or combo / overall performance modified
- The difference between Clau Solace's A, B, and C versions is now much greater
- C Buryuunak has been modified to not cause clashing
- Furaga Raha's orbit (path) has been modified
- Garufu Daguza has been given various damage modifications
- Rear File now doesn't push as far when it hits above ground / ability to fly off has been changed

Tokinomiya Kamui
- Front Step Stand B, Low B, Stand C, and 6+C don't stay out as long
- Low A massive damage correction / reduced air recovery time for opponent
- Stand B cancel into Arcana move input time reduced / clash judgment reduced
- Low B cancel into Arcana move input time reduced / massive various changes
- 3B damage scaling added when used to start combos
- Low C pushing distance shortened
- Jump B all frames lengthened / follow-up time reduced
- Jump C all frames lengthened
- Jump Down + C clash judgment before the move comes out completely removed
- Uruma (41236+attack) first-hit attack judgment removed (probably means the second hit always comes out) / other abilities changed
- Tenza (air 421+attack) frame structure changed, many corrections made to the damage on C version
- Koufu (623+attack) on a successful counter, can no longer homing cancel before the counter-move comes out / if you whiff an air version and land before it completely recovers, there is now ground recovery time / the pushing ability of all versions has been modified / massive various corrections
- Wazabane (air 22+attack) No Change
- Seizan (air 421+AB) pushback properties changed (follow-up now impossible)
- Kodama (63214+AB) attack priority added to the beginning / other performance modifications

Konoha
- Now takes increased damage while in a crouching state
- Triple-jump hang-time increased / Jump altitude lowered
- Stand A massive damage scaling when used to start combos / follow-up time shortened
- Low B Arcana move input time shortened
- Jump A damage scaling added when used to start combos / follow-up time shortened
- Jump B clash judgment removed completely
- Jump C attack priority reduced
- Jump Down + C priority changed / recovery time lengthened / active frames lengthened
- Kunai (throwing knives) damage scaling added when used to start combos / recovery time increased
- Damage increased on Air 360 move
- 22+attack move now has hit invincibility while underground / other abilities modified
- 214+attack move slower start-up time / recovery time increased
- air 22+attack move falling speed increases with height / possible to do again mid-air if guarded / attack priority increased / on hit, possible to follow-up with Korogari (6+attack or 4+attack while recoverying from air 22+punch)
- down(charge)up+AB continuation time shortened
- 236+AB all frames lengthened / throw invincibility removed

Kasuga Maori
- 6+A Motion and performance changes (overhead)
- 3+A Motion and performance changes
- Stand B priority increased
- 6+B Second hit cannot be guarded high
- Low B priority increased
- 3+B Motion and performance changes (Start-up slower; frame advantage on hit)
- Stand C clash priority increased
- Low C first hit cannot be guarded high
- Jump B recovery time decreased
- Jump C no longer cancelable / top's attack judgment time increased
- Ouka no Mai various value corrections / recovery time on hit lengthened
- Tsumujikake (421+attack) movement range reduced / priority increased / recovery time decreased
- Raishin Otoshi (22+attack) last part of the move now pushes back the opponent
- Hikejikake (236 or 214+attack) recovery time decreased / timing that a helper will definitely come out if you get hit out of the move is faster
- Hama no Shishiku (421+AB) first part of the move can also no longer clash
- Taima no Zuikaku (236+AB) the two little girls come out faster
- Karaito no Ya (641236+AB) after a hit, now easier to follow up before opponent hits the wall / other performance changes

Yoriko
- Various improvements to 6+A
- Repeated Low A's gatling timing changed / cannot gatling into itself after a clash
- 3+A's active time extended / possible to gatling into other moves
- Stand B's damage corrected
- 6+B gets faster start-up / active time extended / priority increased / air unblockable
- Stand C's frames all shortened / priority increased / must be canceled earlier
- Low C various priority increases
- 6+C frame structure modified / all frames shortened
- Clash priority added to Jump 2/3+C / all frames shortened
- A version Hell's Punishment is Coming recovery time increased (both regular and powered-up versions are affected)
- Hit invincibility added to start-up of powered-up air B Version Hell's Punishment is Coming
- Drill Bad Spin's landing recovery shortened / can no longer be low guarded
- Powered-up Drill Bad Spin's landing recovery shortened / slight damage reduction / can no longer be guarded low
- Necromancer's Forbidden Sorcery (grab super) recovery time shortened / invincible until grab judgment begins
- Demonic Power to Control the World (QCF + AB super) now has hit invincibility until right before the fist comes out

Mei-Fang
- 4+A can now chain into low attacks
- Low B performance equalized / can no longer jump cancel
- 6+B clash judgment during start-up removed completely
- Jump A performanace equalized
- Jump B attack judgment reduced
- Seiryuu Kouzan (623+attack) landing recovery lengthened
- Suzaku Hourin (1236+attack) Cancel timing earlier
- Shisei Oudou (214+AB) movement speed increased / faster start-up / knockback properties changed
- Tenbu Senshou (air 214+AB) the falling part will now combo or keep them in block stun with the landing part / other performance changes

Lilica
- Air back dash invincibility removed
- 3+C (full charge) charge time lengthened
- Tornado Edge (rekka kens) now possible to move around again in the air while falling
- Heel Cutter hit stop time shortened
- High Pressure now impossible to use from Speed Blade or Heel Cutter
- Accel Slide B (214+attack) after going into a Speed Blade or Heel Cutter, you can now go into any variation except for the same attack you just did or a High Pressure.
- Wall Step (236+A during Accel Slide B) all frames shortened / movement speed after a triple jump increased
- Cyclone Storm (214+AB) faster start-up / faster falling speed after the move finishes

Lieselotte
- Knockdown evasion recovery time reduced
- Stand A damage increased
- Stand B attack judgment modified / recovery time reduced
- Low B movement range reduced / damage increased / chain into 6+B added
- 6+B damage correction modified / damage increase
- Stand C massive various value corrections / damage increased
- Low C massive various value corrections / damage increased / cannot be guarded high
- 6+B (seperated) faster start-up / recovery time reduced / clash judgment priority increased / damage increased
- Stand C (seperated) faster start-up / recovery time reduced / clash judgment priority increased / damage increased
- Low C (seperated) faster start-up / recovery time reduced / clash judgment priority increased / various value corrections / cannot be guarded high
- Jump C various value corrections / damage increased
- Jump C (seperated) slower start-up / clash judgment priority increased / damage increased / massive various value corrections
- Minor Ballet (214+attack w/puppet out) faster start-up
- All markings come out faster / all frames lengthened
- Betoluke's Scarlet Tears (214+AB) homing cancel now possible
- Geberu's Deathwish (puppet stored 236+AB) air version invincibility time reduced / finishing animation adjusted
- Puppet's Behavior : walking and falling speed faster / knockout time shortened / faster movement during ballet / B attack damage increased / Low B various value corrections, damage reduced / C attack massive corrections to air recovery time and massive mid-combo damage corrections, damage increased / marking attack recovery reduced / Kyou Oshiki Beren (421+attack) massive corrections / Arasoenu Boygen (214+attack) air version performance modified [turnaround attack movements added] etc.

Daidouji Kira
- Stand A faster start-up / active frames extended
- Stand B massive various corrections / damage increased
- Low B active frames shortened
- 3+C faster start-up / active frames shortened
- Jump Down + C massive various value corrections / damage increased
- Kira-sama Driver (360+attack) active frames shortened / all frames shortened
- Flying Kira-sama Driver faster start-up / recovery time reduced / damage reduced
- Daidouji Bunker Buster (63214+attack) start-up now depends on A/B/C version / movement speed and grab range modified
- Nouten Chokugeki Backdrop (attack during start-up of Daidohji Bunker Buster) damage increased
- Ekoda Shiki Rocket Gun (623+attack) massive various value corrections / B version's effect equalized
- Ekoda Shiki Grenade (421+attack) faster start-up / attack and clash judgment strengthened / now gives frame advantage on hit
- Armageddon Buster (720+AB) damage division modified
- Flying Armageddon (6321463214+AB) faster start-up / active frames shortened / grab range near the lower region magnified / damage division modified / damage total reduced

Fiona
- Knockdown evasion / Recovery time shortened
- 6+B orbit (path) changed / slower start-up / active frames reduced / damage scaled when using this move to start a combo
- Stand C Priority increased
- Low C Clash priority changed
- 6+C orbit (path) changed / uncharged version's active frames increased
- Jump C massive various changes / damage increased
- Jump Down + C's damage equalized
- Long Minute recovery time shortened / when hitting in mid-air, knockback properties modified / can now reflect projectiles
- Heaven's Fall can no longer be blocked low
- Excalibur's frame structure modified / modified so that there will not be a screen black-out before time freezes / air unblockable / cannot be cancelled
- Gay Borg start-up time decreased / when hitting in mid-air, knockback properties modified / can now reflect projectiles

Arcana
Electric - Enswim (66) clash judgment time reduced
Electric - Kuri Off (623+D during clash) attack priority increased
Time - Jinsen Noi (44) quicker start-up time / recovery time shortened
Time - Muryoukou Noi (236236+D) massive unique corrections to the first hit after opponent is already under the super's effect
Wood - Ivy (236+D) recovery time shortened / various value changes / no longer causes clashing
Rock - Kaichimon (41236+D) various value corrections added on clean hit
Fire - Goutenshou (236236+D) can no longer absorb a hit (?)
Fire - Kakouha (632146+D) damage reduced / massive value corrections
Dark - Zi Hieru (236+D) recovery time increased
Dark - Sheire (623+D) damage judgment while opponent is in the middle of taking the 2nd hit modified
Dark - Faren (214+D) recovery time shortened
Dark - Malterun (236236+D) start-up time increased / 3rd hit now has the same effect as the 1st and 2nd hits (no longer causes huge untechable hit stun)
Water - Katarakuta (623+D) recovery time shortened

Sabin
09-04-2007, 01:13 PM
:rofl: @ that Meifang flying all the way up there and just getting SPD'd anyway.

my bad i copied the wrong link. that is a good vid tho, both players are on some shit. it doesnt make time look roken or anything like this video (which is what i intended to show)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtS5FlKqvUQ

The saving grace at least is that u can still burst out of the time loop when u freeze, and lieselotte has 0 range except for the doll. but yea it sucks to be on the recieving end of that shit.

Rob should append his first post with fubarducks translated change list from AH/AHF. or post a link to woofs repost.

Master Chibi
09-04-2007, 01:16 PM
Christ I better bring sedatives along to NEC because I'm going to be hit with so much broken shit I might just kill myself, this game is just :looney:.

And no, I dont' mean that in a bad way.

I'd love some Time Fiona vids Art, I can't find any on my own.

:P

peskypurple
09-04-2007, 01:36 PM
Thanks for the clarification

orka
09-04-2007, 01:40 PM
orka: thats like asking, why didnt examu tweak time arcana in full? (actually i dont remember if time go any changes or not, actually i dont think time got any changes but im too lazy to look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqA3h9NMp0

the short answer is that the game had not reached its peak by the time the patch was released and examu probably didnt know what they were doin. lol.
i worked out fine balance wise but yeah i dont know why they didnt make i more powerful.

that would make sense. also... can you tell if the people at examu play certain characters, but not others?

cus in gg, from the changes made in ac... people were definitely able to tell that people at arc systemworks definitely play certain characters (i.e. slayer), while they have lesser idea or concern for others (i.e. dizzy).


woof: that's the mook that i ordered. hopefully it's delivered today (i'll see when i get home). also, has it been confirmed that most of the changes listed in the mook are accurate? on examu's homepage, they said the mook was written when full was under development, so some of the stuff might have not made it on the final cut.

Hyperhal
09-04-2007, 01:49 PM
Well, I finally got some vids uploaded, but not all of them yet.

Demon Hyo(SAK) vs. Dave2J(KAM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnjoE_5tfOI

Hyperhal(YOR) vs. Dave2J(KAM)

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFSqIwF77xQ
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb676oWt2ag

Hyperhal(YOR) vs. Dave2J(MAO)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP_5JPJ1F3w

Notes from the editor: Eric didn't want any of his matches to be recorded, Dave plays too many characters, Brandon needs to learn how to move in the game, I didn't start using pents until my fifth game.

Gorehound
09-04-2007, 01:50 PM
Wait, nobody answered my question!

So what is the purpose whether you defeat Mildred's shell before you fight her?

woof
09-04-2007, 01:56 PM
woof: that's the mook that i ordered. hopefully it's delivered today (i'll see when i get home). also, has it been confirmed that most of the changes listed in the mook are accurate? on examu's homepage, they said the mook was written when full was under development, so some of the stuff might have not made it on the final cut.
pretty sure its all accurate

that reminds me
i still need to upload all the scans i made of the mook

someAzNdude
09-04-2007, 01:58 PM
Wait, nobody answered my question!

So what is the purpose whether you defeat Mildred's shell before you fight her?

If you lose to Mildred's shell, she will have infinite supers afterwards.

orka
09-04-2007, 02:03 PM
pretty sure its all accurate

that reminds me
i still need to upload all the scans i made of the mook

so it's safe to assume that there are no ambiguous differences between the mook and the actual game, like between mbac ver. b ps2 and mbac ver. b arcade?

Gorehound
09-04-2007, 02:03 PM
If you lose to Mildred's shell, she will have infinite supers afterwards.

Sweet!!

Thanks for the info :tup:

woof
09-04-2007, 02:04 PM
so it's safe to assume that there are no ambiguous differences, like between mbac ver. b ps2 and mbac ver. b arcade?
ummmm i dont play mb so im not sure if i get the connection here besides the speed diff thing

orka
09-04-2007, 02:08 PM
ok, let me re-iterate. on the examu's hp, they specifically said the some of the changes listed in the mook "may not be the same as the final product", since they wrote it while arcana heart full was still under development.

so i was wondering if there are small differences between what it says in the mook, and how things are in the final game (i'm referring to small details like properties/frames of moves).

i used mbac as example because people assumed the arcade release of ver. b will be same as the ps2 ver. b, but ended up being slightly different.

woof
09-04-2007, 02:21 PM
well hmm for the most part those all seem accurate but i cant confirm 100% as i dont play all characters

someAzNdude
09-04-2007, 02:25 PM
ok, let me re-iterate. on the examu's hp, they specifically said the some of the changes listed in the mook "may not be the same as the final product", since they wrote it while arcana heart full was still under development.

so i was wondering if there are small differences between what it says in the mook, and how things are in the final game (i'm referring to small details like properties/frames of moves).

i used mbac as example because people assumed the arcade release of ver. b will be same as the ps2 ver. b, but ended up being slightly different.

yeah there are some things stated in the mook that don't seem to be implemented in the final product. Like certain moves that is suppose to have start up invincibility frames which are non-existant in AHF (ie. Yoriko's 236AB super), not sure how much of the mook is acurate but some things are different.

woof
09-04-2007, 02:32 PM
Like certain moves that is suppose to have start up invincibility frames which are non-existant in AHF (ie. Yoriko's 236AB super)
umm im pretty sure thats there .. fubar would land it against us a lot more often in comparison to vanilla arcana

someAzNdude
09-04-2007, 02:54 PM
really? cuz i would see that get beat out sometimes randomly... :/

woof
09-04-2007, 02:57 PM
if you can use it to escape gier traps then im pretty sure its got some invinc

Nastrodamus
09-04-2007, 03:00 PM
Well, I finally got some vids uploaded, but not all of them yet.

Demon Hyo(SAK) vs. Dave2J(KAM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnjoE_5tfOI

Hyperhal(YOR) vs. Dave2J(KAM)

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFSqIwF77xQ
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb676oWt2ag

Hyperhal(YOR) vs. Dave2J(MAO)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP_5JPJ1F3w

Notes from the editor: Eric didn't want any of his matches to be recorded, Dave plays too many characters, Brandon needs to learn how to move in the game, I didn't start using pents until my fifth game.


haha finally some matches in philly.. it's true dave uses too many charcters... brandon will be fine by the time the tourney comes... and eric? wth? stop being shy dog and get notice for once!!! lol....and HYPERHAL... HOW CAN PLANT WAVE EXISTENCE SURVIVE IF YOU DON"T DO PENTS SON!!!


im starting to get these Delawareans excited so that means people for more intresting matchups..

also if muthafuckas picking up time fiona... im going to my third option.. Plant fiona... ill find something...

P. Gorath
09-04-2007, 04:21 PM
anyone know any more info on the arcana hori stick? ie is it shitty a la tekken 5 hori ?

Nastrodamus
09-04-2007, 04:23 PM
anyone know any more info on the arcana hori stick? ie is it shitty a la tekken 5 hori ?

it's suppose to be a HRAP 2 i think so no... not the shitty tekken 5 stick(which i use)

Superking
09-04-2007, 09:46 PM
anyone know any more info on the arcana hori stick? ie is it shitty a la tekken 5 hori ?

The Arcana Hori stick is a HRAP like all the others, you can have also went through the first post of my HRAP faq in tech help.

Shameless plug. =)

Demon_Hyo
09-04-2007, 09:49 PM
lol I move in the game hal, I was just testing a theory I was thinking of. Tournament I'll try my best to win this saturday.

Sabin
09-04-2007, 10:08 PM
lol I move in the game hal, I was just testing a theory I was thinking of. Tournament I'll try my best to win this saturday.

gl regarding tourny this weekend, hope its a success -
btw heres some pre tourny hype from #arcana. notice i didnt say nothin :rofl:

[05:23] <sumAzNdud> im thinking of picking up time maori
[05:24] <phae> I'm bored
[05:24] <Anakron> as if poison(magic?) maori wasn't bad enough >_>
[05:24] <sumAzNdud> lol
[05:24] <sumAzNdud> yeah
[05:24] <sumAzNdud> more options to make people quit arcana
[05:24] <sumAzNdud> >:)
[05:25] * Quits: SuperXAQ (~chatzilla@74.72.143.61) (Read error: Operation timed out)
[05:25] <sumAzNdud> now that i think of it...
[05:25] <sumAzNdud> i should start learning now
[05:25] <sumAzNdud> so i can go kill philly's scene when i go over there for the tourney
[05:25] <sumAzNdud> lol
[05:25] <Anakron> DO IT
[05:26] <sumAzNdud> make them ALL quit
[05:26] <sumAzNdud> lmao
[05:27] <sumAzNdud> you'd be hearing "FUCK THIS GAME, I QUIT!" all day in the background
[05:27] <Anakron> anyone else from NY coming?
[05:27] <sumAzNdud> apparently im the only one...
[05:27] <sumAzNdud> :(
[05:27] <sumAzNdud> unless u wanna go

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[05:39] <sumAzNdud> dammit i really want someone else to come with me to philly
[05:39] <sumAzNdud> have sumone to talk to on the way there
[05:42] <sumAzNdud> ;-;
[05:42] <sumAzNdud> heck drag DS along
[05:42] <sumAzNdud> we can all point and laugh at the philly scene after we take the tounrey free

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[05:45] <phae> just look out for Yoriko I guess I dont think anyone's gonna be difficult
[05:45] <phae> other than Hal
[05:45] <sumAzNdud> bah
[05:45] <sumAzNdud> i laught at him too
[05:45] <sumAzNdud> >:(\
[05:46] <sumAzNdud> gonna rep NYC hardcore
[05:46] <sumAzNdud> and rape them all
[05:47] <sumAzNdud> man we need to drag Xaq's broke ass over to philly too
[05:47] <phae> lol
[05:47] <SabinJPN> dam
[05:47] <SabinJPN> h8h8h8
[05:47] <sumAzNdud> lol
[05:47] <sumAzNdud> fuck
[05:47] <sumAzNdud> im getting a bit too hype right now
[05:47] <SabinJPN> i aint sayin nothin lol
[05:47] <sumAzNdud> gotta calm the fuck down
[05:48] <sumAzNdud> :(

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[14:10] * phae changes topic to 'Welcome to #WE RAPE PHILLY FREEEEE | PS2 Oct 11 Release!: 36 days left! | Philly AH Tourney - http://forums.shoryuken.co'


omggggggggg gettttttttt hypeeeeeeeeee :lol:

orka I remember studping the AH -> AHF changelist extensively becaue I was pised off at the changes at the time. I only play 2 characters, but reading over tht list again, it's definetely correct or cloes to it. I don't really notice any inconsistensies, except that the english translation can be a bit hard to understand sometimes (like in meifangs changes, when they say "performance equalized", not sure what it means. also im not sure what they are trying to say when they talk about the changes to fire arcana. but yeah it seems to be like at least 95% correct regarding the changes.

about the developer question...i had felt that way about the original AH, where some chars felt completely useless and neglected, but in HF that is definetely not the case. every char has a unique style and purpose in the game, noone seems useless to me or left our like some other characters. the only thing i can say that is "neglected" is that some chars have exactly the same animation, but in diff bodies, for example, heart 3b/5b and saki 3b/5b look exactly the same, just diff body.

if someone noticies any inconsistencies or strange stuff in that list just ask us and ill try to clear it up the best i can anyway.

btw i agree with woof that yoriko 236+ab does have hella invul frames compared to vanilla AH that move got a lot better.

someAzNdude
09-04-2007, 10:23 PM
God dammit Art, why you gotta go and post that shit here???? >:(
Now philly is gonna give me the mean eye when I get there.... T-T

woof
09-04-2007, 10:25 PM
youre getting excited over bullying some scrubs

come on dude something just doesnt add up here

phae
09-04-2007, 10:29 PM
youre getting excited over bullying some scrubs

come on dude something just doesnt add up here

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

TornadoFlame
09-04-2007, 10:30 PM
Just paid my rent which solidifies another month at my apartment that reminds me that next month Arcana drops :lovin: Nas, I'm gonna spend my vacation next month at your house playin Dat Arcana. It's gonna be beautiful.

someAzNdude
09-04-2007, 10:34 PM
youre getting excited over bullying some scrubs

come on dude something just doesnt add up here

Is that so wrong...? :(
But in all seriousness, I like the hype that these gatherings bring. Its just so fun to be apart of, am I wrong? :lovin:

kenmastersX
09-05-2007, 12:43 AM
vanilla arcana

EL HOMING

BlackShinobi
09-05-2007, 01:27 AM
Notes from the editor: Eric didn't want any of his matches to be recorded, Dave plays too many characters, Brandon needs to learn how to move in the game, I didn't start using pents until my fifth game.

haha finally some matches in philly.. it's true dave uses too many charcters... brandon will be fine by the time the tourney comes... and eric? wth? stop being shy dog and get notice for once!!! lol....and HYPERHAL... HOW CAN PLANT WAVE EXISTENCE SURVIVE IF YOU DON"T DO PENTS SON!!!

Maybe its just my screwed up logic, but when you're playing a game or sport and you're already a HUGE underdog, I don't think its the best idea to let the other team watch your practices, if it can be avoided that is. But I think video taping yourself and putting it online is an avoidable situation.

HeartNana
09-05-2007, 01:29 AM
Since when are there "teams" and stuff for the first few weeks a game is being played? Its not Evo and you guys just started playing. If Ken is gonna beat you, he would beat you whether he's seen your vids or not.

Dhalsimowns
09-05-2007, 01:32 AM
Iam really late on Arcana Hearts myself. I have seen some videos and it looks like an interesting game.

Is there any conformation of the game at evo2k8? This could be a fun new game to start practicing.

HeartNana
09-05-2007, 01:51 AM
There's been no confirmation for ANYTHING at Evo 2K8. 2K7 just finished, give it a chance to settle in with everyone before we start thinking about 08. And most likely, the way people are talking, it's not gonna make it. It might get a side tourney at best. While it may not be at evo, though, i think the scene for it will be fairly large and it'll be worth learning, imho.

TornadoFlame
09-05-2007, 02:02 AM
There's been no confirmation for ANYTHING at Evo 2K8. 2K7 just finished, give it a chance to settle in with everyone before we start thinking about 08. And most likely, the way people are talking, it's not gonna make it. It might get a side tourney at best. While it may not be at evo, though, i think the scene for it will be fairly large and it'll be worth learning, imho.

If we all show up at EVO East, West, North, and South with Arcana HRAPs and a cult following they won't have a choice :rofl:

Hyperhal
09-05-2007, 06:02 AM
As long as Ken doesn't run Maori, I don't think it'll be TOO bad. But watch him run Maori and win, then have like everybody in Philly pick up Maori. It's like everyone sees something good and wants to abuse it for themselves. :confused:

Sabin
09-05-2007, 06:12 AM
Maybe its just my screwed up logic, but when you're playing a game or sport and you're already a HUGE underdog, I don't think its the best idea to let the other team watch your practices, if it can be avoided that is. But I think video taping yourself and putting it online is an avoidable situation.

i disagree with his logic. if youre truly better than the opponent, then youll beat hem whether they have seen your vids or not. for example, when AH first dropped, i took vids of all the 4 tourneys i ran (i won them all) AND Showdown Championships AND FRX footage and I put it online for all to see. And this was during the time when me and tx were competeting for the SBO spot with some fierce comp. End result, I won.....i'm not scared to show how i play or any gimmicks I have, cause I don't have any gimmicks. If anything, I'd rather show solid USA play more than hiding my secrets..because I want the community to grow. I wish everyone else thought this way. Which is why throught the thread I'm spreading all my knowledge and tips that I learned on my own, because I want the info to get out there so people can get better. I'm not interested in bullying ppl that are worse than me, I want ppl to step it up.

BTW, hiding how you play isnt going to save you from Ken beating you, so I don't see the point, but whatever :lovin:

Care to share that trick about how you found a technique that gets u across the screen faster than neutral homing? If you found something new, we'd all love to hear it. It sounds like a pretty cool trick if it's true.

again GL with your tourney.

If we all show up at EVO East, West, North, and South with Arcana HRAPs and a cult following they won't have a choice :rofl:


That's the plan sir :sweat: I've already petitioned for AHF to be featured in major tourneys this year. I suggest that everyone gets ou and does the same.

Art's TIP OF THE DAY

When you airtech in many situations, or walltech from a move that ounces u orwards the wall, immediately as u tech, for the first few frames u are susceptable to grabs before being able to attack. This is how a lot of players in vids are able to get throws as resets in this game. This is ESPECIALLY useful for Kira, because she has a air SPD and super grab which u cant tech regardless. So yeah, dont tech against Kira in the air especially or shell make u pay for it. But the advice is useful against every char. The thing that sucks is that her 6c sets up a wallbounce which forces u to walltech anyway...setting urself up for a bad situation in which u can get reset by a attack or a throw/super. Kira 6C is cheap.

DS
09-05-2007, 06:13 AM
I'm attending the AHF tourney. It's really free money for Ken, but I think I can secure 2nd place pretty easily. Just have to down/back that shit. Yeah, it's bullying, but it's also motivation for Philly. Sucks that they're playing on p360s and HAPP buttons, but whatever.

SHIT IS SO FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE.......

Master Chibi
09-05-2007, 07:07 AM
Man, if Philly got the game the same time that NYC got it, I'd have all my money on Philly being better. They're nothing to laugh at.

RALPH, when are you going down on Saturday?

Makoto Scrub
09-05-2007, 07:18 AM
Get that money Ken!

DS, make sure you hype up the little crowd that is bound to be there.

DS
09-05-2007, 08:01 AM
RALPH, when are you going down on Saturday?

I could leave with you guys. Just PM me your number since I have a cellphone.


@Makoto_Scrub: But, of course. This is Philly vs. NYC Chapter 1. Of course we've(NYC) written the final paragraph, the rest is just the filler.

HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE!!!!!!!!!

Hyperhal
09-05-2007, 08:03 AM
RALPH

:rofl:

236AB with Yoriko has weird ass invincibility. It only has it until the hit comes out supposedly, but then hit comes out almost instant so it's either trading or flat out getting beat. The same could be said for her grab super, but I don't think that thing has invincibility at all(either that or I'm not using it right).

Somebody Paypal me some money so I can enter the tourney/train. :(

Demon_Hyo
09-05-2007, 08:05 AM
lol this reminds me of how they looked at us when the marvel scene first started and look what happened lol! I only played this game for 4 days, 2 when I didn't know how to do almost anything, then dropped it for most of the month for evo practice, and then 2 times since I've been back. I swear if I get top 3 or win then NYC needs to be ashamed lol! I should get last place.

That's why I'm not going to say anything else and just let NYC rock. Yep they're the best in the world :wgrin:

phae
09-05-2007, 08:15 AM
RALPH, when are you going down on Saturday?

Don't call DS that please :sad: It scares me.

Anyway, we're having a gathering this FRIDAY at Chinatown Fair probably around 3 or 4pm since that's when I imagine our school-age players will be able to make it there. Even if you are not going to Philly for the tournament, I still really urge everyone who can to make it out.

If you don't have cash for games show up ANYWAY because you never know what could happen - I may get drunk and throw money at you. It has happened before.

But the thing is that the more of us that are there actively playing or showing support and just flat out getting hype means that those who are able to make it to Philly and compete will have played at least a better range of players on all skill levels, and who mostly use different characters. It's good to have variation so our guys are more confident.

And words words fucking words! Unless NYC pools together for their cheerleader to come on Saturday I will just cheer you guys on from my home in my pajammies. :lovin:

Makoto Scrub
09-05-2007, 08:23 AM
Don't call DS that please :sad: It scares me.
LAWLZ.

I should be there on friday mainly cause I dont have classes on Friday. (yay for 12hr class days! :arazz:)

So I'll be able to be a training dummy for Ken like always.

Master Chibi
09-05-2007, 08:36 AM
Sorry, once I get hold of someone's real name I stop calling them by their handle all together.

Unless they're hella picky about it.

;p

Sabin
09-05-2007, 08:50 AM
lol this reminds me of how they looked at us when the marvel scene first started and look what happened lol! I only played this game for 4 days, 2 when I didn't know how to do almost anything, then dropped it for most of the month for evo practice, and then 2 times since I've been back. I swear if I get top 3 or win then NYC needs to be ashamed lol! I should get last place.


i can agree with that one lol, if brandon goes in like that then ill be shaking m head all the wayyy from japan :rofl::sweat:

really tho, imo the main killers are ken andre (does he even play anymore? havent hear u guys talk about him) and xaq, but him bein mad broke owns up his ability to get better. :sad:

And I don't think NYC is the best in the world at all, we have just had the game longer. Up until I went to Japan a lot of nc players didnt want to play me for whatever reason and didnt really step it up, except for a few ppl (not counting the ppl who have rl obligations and cant show up as much as they like, of course. Sooooo unhype. :annoy:)

but yeah dont think anyone is trashing on ur game, we know u just got it and everything. This is just trasshhh talk to keep shit hype. I actually saw your match an I think you have the most potential out of all of the Philly players for playing in such a short amount of time. Just not enough exp, but that can be worked on. Anyway, get Bryheem to come to the tourney for camera/hype purposes :lol:

Hyperhal
09-05-2007, 08:53 AM
Sorry, once I get hold of someone's real name I stop calling them by their handle all together.

Unless they're hella picky about it.

;p

TYRONE

Yo I'm goin to Gamestop to trade in some games for the tourney, I need money for practice. :confused:

Brandon, when I said "You need to learn how to move," I mean't that you knew the combos, you just need to learn how to get in and stay in. I noticed you having trouble with me because you didn't know how to bypass my long-range tactics, but once you get that down is when I think you'll really start shining.

RushedDown
09-05-2007, 08:55 AM
ima get this when it comes out and be a beast

someAzNdude
09-05-2007, 10:12 AM
Damn, the hype is too good LOL
This Saturday is gonna be AWESOME!!! xD

Demon_Hyo
09-05-2007, 10:26 AM
i can agree with that one lol, if brandon goes in like that then ill be shaking m head all the wayyy from japan :rofl::sweat:

really tho, imo the main killers are ken andre (does he even play anymore? havent hear u guys talk about him) and xaq, but him bein mad broke owns up his ability to get better. :sad:

And I don't think NYC is the best in the world at all, we have just had the game longer. Up until I went to Japan a lot of nc players didnt want to play me for whatever reason and didnt really step it up, except for a few ppl (not counting the ppl who have rl obligations and cant show up as much as they like, of course. Sooooo unhype. :annoy:)

but yeah dont think anyone is trashing on ur game, we know u just got it and everything. This is just trasshhh talk to keep shit hype. I actually saw your match an I think you have the most potential out of all of the Philly players for playing in such a short amount of time. Just not enough exp, but that can be worked on. Anyway, get Bryheem to come to the tourney for camera/hype purposes :lol:Oh, thanks for the compliments, Art. I actually wasn't playing 4real, and that's funny coming from me since I only played for such a short period of time. True, I don't have the EXP that I need to be REALLY good, but I can gain it. But yea, I was just testing out something by playing like that, so I expected to be horrible that game. But I'll actually try come time the tournament starts and not sandbag. Even though I'm hella trash in arcana lol!

Nastrodamus
09-05-2007, 11:08 AM
Oh, thanks for the compliments, Art. I actually wasn't playing 4real, and that's funny coming from me since I only played for such a short period of time. True, I don't have the EXP that I need to be REALLY good, but I can gain it. But yea, I was just testing out something by playing like that, so I expected to be horrible that game. But I'll actually try come time the tournament starts and not sandbag. Even though I'm hella trash in arcana lol!



TRASH... NAH YOU'll do fine sir...


IM NOT FROM PHILLY... but ill sure as hell rep with you guys if you want me too...

yO JULIAN AND KIRA= death yo!!

Dave2J
09-05-2007, 11:20 AM
Hey Hal that grab super is so invince jus that if someone else does a super right after which also has invince frames then when ur invince frames are done u get hit. From what I noticed so far durin kamui super when she slides across the screen she is actually airborne therefore u cant grab her out of that super.

Dave2J
09-05-2007, 11:23 AM
Oh and I can vouch for Hyo me and him were not playin hardcore in that match jus testin stuff out gettin some trainin for tourney.

power333
09-05-2007, 12:49 PM
Will there any changes be in the PS2 version? Like extra modes and such?

peskypurple
09-05-2007, 12:54 PM
I am really interested to see how this all turns out.... hmmmmmm.

Nastrodamus
09-05-2007, 01:39 PM
Will there any changes be in the PS2 version? Like extra modes and such?

prolly extra modes maybe... but not like any changes to teh game... so far i know of it's arcade perfect... so here's hoping.

Master Chibi
09-05-2007, 01:41 PM
Will there any changes be in the PS2 version? Like extra modes and such?

Man the Marvel heads really are showing interest toward this game, damn :rofl: :looney:.

someAzNdude
09-05-2007, 02:00 PM
Yeah, isn't that awesome? :)

Saotome Kaneda
09-05-2007, 08:02 PM
Wow, woof + fubarFUCKINGduck = win. Good to see that the thread hasn't devolved into that spamfest I assume #arcana is.

Now we return to your regularly scheduled BEEF posts



lupinko (9:59:30 AM): i'm sure you or <37 could have won lol
lupinko (9:59:42 AM): same here
Tko910 (10:00:06 AM): me? hell no
lupinko (9:59:47 AM): i have to get the place in tip top shape
lupinko (9:59:51 AM): how so?
lupinko (9:59:52 AM): Oo
Tko910 (10:00:22 AM): like I said, I was hella out of practice by the time quals came up
lupinko (10:00:05 AM): you saying <37 has more skills to pay the bills than you ? =x
lupinko (10:00:09 AM): oh ok
Tko910 (10:00:38 AM): I still couldn't consistently do splash loop
lupinko (10:00:22 AM): then he probably does have more skills to pay the bills
Tko910 (10:00:53 AM): and I hadn't even TOUCHED full till the quals =x
Tko910 (10:01:14 AM): but come October <37 is DONE
Tko910 (10:01:24 AM): I will be taking my crown back as top gaijin
Tko910 (10:01:31 AM): best believe that shit


Tko910 (10:23:27 AM): you remember how shitty I was when I popped in back in winter 2k5 right?
Sabin16 (10:23:38 AM): lol
Sabin16 (10:23:40 AM): hell yeah
Sabin16 (10:23:46 AM): thats why derrick keeps shitting on you lol
Sabin16 (10:23:52 AM): hes all like every time kaneda comes back he sux lol
Tko910 (10:24:26 AM): haha
Tko910 (10:24:54 AM): that's cuz the last few times it was right after me being cold for like, 6 months lol
Sabin16 (10:24:55 AM): tho i told him i like u over in kira on kira for oney haha he didnt wanna bet it
Tko910 (10:25:32 AM): LMFAO
Tko910 (10:25:41 AM): what's really good lol
Tko910 (10:26:02 AM): nigga knows he can only go so far bitin my strats from my old ass youtube vids
Sabin16 (10:25:56 AM): thats what i told him
Sabin16 (10:26:08 AM): but after playing heartnana he acked out on all mm's lol
Tko910 (10:26:39 AM): lol
Sabin16 (10:26:21 AM): cause he was like, rob doesnt look that good
Sabin16 (10:26:26 AM): im like hes toying with u all, play him
Sabin16 (10:26:29 AM): lost 20 straigh lol
Tko910 (10:26:53 AM): <37 and you are the current best
Tko910 (10:27:02 AM): but remember, once the PS2 ver comes out I
Tko910 (10:27:09 AM): I'm comin for you niggas
Sabin16 (10:26:53 AM): nah rob beat me in tourney when i last played him, run that back
Sabin16 (10:26:58 AM): haha, you and everyone else sir
Tko910 (10:27:20 AM): lol
Tko910 (10:27:23 AM): like I said
Tko910 (10:27:30 AM): you two are tops
Tko910 (10:27:37 AM): but I'm takin my shit back
Sabin16 (10:27:51 AM): haha i still cant get past 2nd round in tournys here in tokyo, so me being the best in usa is pointless :P
Tko910 (10:28:20 AM): lol

woof
09-05-2007, 08:31 PM
isnt it against the rules to post chatlogs..........

HeartNana
09-05-2007, 09:01 PM
Good stuff, get the hype going.

Kaneda, you gotta make it to NEC. We'll have our best gaijin duel once and for all, haha. Keep in mind that while everyone thinks that once console comes they'll finally be able to prove that their the best because they can play it anytime they want, but also keep in mind that EVERYONE is doing the same thing when console comes out, so its not like once you get console, nobody else is gonna be sitting there hella leveling up either. =P

And yeah as far as im concerned, im not that good at arcana cause i usually count get past 2nd round in tourneys. Aside from the first week, i havent gotten higher than a 5th place finish since. =P

So being tops in US doesnt matter, cause thats not what im gunning for.

Oroman
09-05-2007, 09:08 PM
isnt it against the rules to post chatlogs..........

Thank you for making this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opdbvhjjhS0&mode=related&search=

Now I'll know what to do when I get the game.

iplayCVS2
09-05-2007, 11:44 PM
whenever you hit your opponent with something that launches them up high how do you chase after them and continue the combo? I tried hitting the D button but it didnt work...

HeartNana
09-05-2007, 11:51 PM
Try holding the D button.

iplayCVS2
09-06-2007, 12:01 AM
no need for stick (direction) input at all?

and can you instant air dash with 9, 6 input or do I have to do 8, 6, 6 to IAD?

HeartNana
09-06-2007, 12:05 AM
no, you dont need to hold a direction, the Homing button homes in on the opp when you hold it.

And you should be able to iad with 96 iirc. 866 is easier tho, imo. Though i would find what works best for you when doing it.

Saotome Kaneda
09-06-2007, 01:42 AM
isnt it against the rules to post chatlogs..........
If it contains info of a strictly personal nature(aka it doesn't belong on the boards), or used against another poster on our boards(beef, also not belonging here) then yes, you're right.


HOWEVER, in this case it's perfectly fine. If I didn't post it they would've.




ANGRY MOD EDIT: woof's how to play arcana vid is the tippest of the top tier. If you haven't watched it you shall never become good at this game.

Nastrodamus
09-06-2007, 09:03 AM
yo i played rob and played art.. i still have to play the following peeps... SK, woof, stone,andre (i hear about him all the time but it's weird), and fubar if he still plays or will be playing...

oh shit two days until philly tourney... OMG OMG OMG.... gots to hit that UP and learn my FIONA SHIT MAN

Master Chibi
09-06-2007, 09:46 AM
WTF I had no idea if you just press D you follow the guy after launching them in the air.

Lame, I wish I had known sooner >_<

Shinto
09-06-2007, 10:37 AM
WTF I had no idea if you just press D you follow the guy after launching them in the air.

Lame, I wish I had known sooner >_<

Plz Tell me this is sarcasm :sad:


Anyways Shinto news: I'll be back playing AH soon :) if not this weekend then the next day I have off:wgrin:

Hope Ken is still alive :wonder:

LvL UPPPP and Beyond!

someAzNdude
09-06-2007, 10:53 AM
SHINTO~!!!!!!!
Dude, you've been missing out. There's a Arcana tourney in Philly on Saturday and I'm entering, DS and Chibi are gonna go too! NYC invades Philly, GET HYPE!

StridaJin
09-06-2007, 01:23 PM
Insert random crap


ANGRY MOD EDIT: woof's how to play arcana vid is the tippest of the top tier. If you haven't watched it you shall never become good at this game.


david said you weren't coming to TGS. WTF bitch!!!! he better be lyin.

Master Chibi
09-06-2007, 01:37 PM
Seriously I didn't know.

I just held D and started pressing up all crazy like.

:(

Saotome Kaneda
09-06-2007, 01:45 PM
david said you weren't coming to TGS. WTF bitch!!!! he better be lyin.
Didn't I reply to your PM already bitch? lol Yeah, those fuckers won't hook me up, hell I even have duty that weekend. You seem to forget, I got the most uptight command/job out of all of us, man. =/


Seriously I didn't know.

I just held D and started pressing up all crazy like.

:( Dammit Chibs, stop proving woof right, can't be lettin that young'un be gettin an ego now

=p

But seriously, I thought we explained this long ago....=/ Technically, fiddling around with the up directions is an okay practice too, in case you're going for mixups....orz

Master Chibi
09-06-2007, 01:53 PM
I didn't freaking know, it's not like I ever use 3C with Fiona to begin with.

:P

Sabin
09-06-2007, 04:48 PM
3c is one of Fiona's best movs in the corner, esp with fire, due to the large hitbox is extremely hard to escape from...gotta clash with the move to get out a lot of the time.

Speaking of Fiona, this due is fucking pro with the superarmor vs Rock Kira 6C (good shit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVx8nlRUFYg

this kamui is pro too with the movement and fire combos as well as fb super combos even if he fucking lost a close match (to Ao no less, the sbo winner aka that dude that beat me by a sliver of life in SBO :angry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSPorxLqZkk

whomever random kamui dude is i feel for you shi was mad close wtfux

cant even run it back vs ao either, theyre hours away from me damn.

also: BONUS PHILLY HYPE
[08:23] <SabinJPN> its thursday night
[08:24] <SabinJPN> get hype for that friday cf meeting
[08:24] <SabinJPN> and philly on sat
[08:24] <SabinJPN> if you guys lose dont come home
[08:24] <phae> LMAO
[08:24] <m|i|n> lol
[08:24] <m|i|n> shit dude
[08:24] <phae> That's some ill h8
[08:24] <DScythe> damn Art
[08:24] <DScythe> :(
[08:25] <SabinJPN> dead ass
[08:25] <SabinJPN> lol
[08:25] <SabinJPN> thees no reason ny should lose
[08:25] <DScythe> of course not
[08:25] <DScythe> there's no reason why philly be playing this after we invade
[08:25] <SabinJPN> shi is ouble elim too
[08:25] <DScythe> will*
[08:25] <SabinJPN> no single game
[08:25] <phae> lmao
[08:25] <SabinJPN> lol
[08:25] <DScythe> niggas will get this replaced with another Marvel cab
[08:25] <DScythe> watch
[08:25] <DScythe> real talk. real rape
[08:25] <SabinJPN> word
[08:25] <SabinJPN> WOR
[08:26] <SabinJPN> WORD
[08:26] <DScythe> then at NEC? more rape
[08:26] <SabinJPN> what about w2z b4 then
[08:27] <DScythe> oh, that's just to get people into the game. no philly heads there
[08:27] <DScythe> i can see me and XAQ cleaning house
[08:27] <DScythe> but of course, i also want people to see the game in action and get interested
[08:29] <XAQshinor> its all about NY *
[08:29] <XAQshinor> word up
[08:29] <XAQshinor> :V
[08:30] <XAQshinor> SabinJPN: word?
[08:30] <XAQshinor> lol

Saotome Kaneda
09-06-2007, 09:59 PM
I didn't freaking know, it's not like I ever use 3C with Fiona to begin with.

:P
We know, we know, you only use5C, you can't do BnB, etc....

=p


Ninja Mod Edit: MORE BEEF

I want you to destroy their SOULS. Leave no trace left. Burn the arcade down afterwards, they're not worthy.

DS
09-07-2007, 07:46 AM
this kamui is pro too with the movement and fire combos as well as fb super combos even if he fucking lost a close match (to Ao no less, the sbo winner aka that dude that beat me by a sliver of life in SBO :angry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSPorxLqZkk




Yeah, the movement on that Kamui was too buff. Dude was HCing like nuts to get into perfect position. But damn, Liese just seems so clutch for some reason.

Is Ao the best Liese in Japan by far, or are there others?

Makoto Scrub
09-07-2007, 08:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rghMQkmvfzs

Another match with Ao. Anyone else notice the full screen carry to corner arpe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqA3h9NMp0 <-- Time Kira stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkFy6p0czH4 <--- lawlz at 1:55

Hyperhal
09-07-2007, 08:26 AM
As soon as I get my internet back I'm sooooo in the IRC room

Master Chibi
09-07-2007, 08:32 AM
Not entirely sure if I'm going to the Philly tournament now.

MORE ON THAT LATER

Hyperhal
09-07-2007, 08:41 AM
hay chibi

sup

u goin 2 that filly tourni?

Actual post:

I didn't know you had to hold D at first either to home in. If you'll look back at the CF videos, you'll see that I was only pushing D, but not holding it down. I learned later playing training mode the day before Evo East that you had to hold down the button for your character to go further. :(

Somewhat Tip of the Day:

It's good to learn other characters not to play as them, but to get a feel for their style of play. Playing someone like Kira then siding someone such as Lilica(two characters with a great difference in playstyle) helps you improve yourself by giving you new ways to think of situations playing the game. This applies to other games, but dammit it had to be said once.

Makoto Scrub
09-07-2007, 08:52 AM
I shant be going to CF today cause funds are tight. :sad:

someAzNdude
09-07-2007, 09:08 AM
MS you FAIL hard >:(
Chibi you too

Shinto
09-07-2007, 09:58 AM
MS you FAIL hard >:(
Chibi you too

Well I MIGHT be there, depends on what time I finish my errands in Manhattan ^.^

someAzNdude
09-07-2007, 10:12 AM
Get your ass in DAT ARCADE Shinto! >:(

Nastrodamus
09-07-2007, 10:13 AM
well imma be UP training soon so what's good peeps.. be good to see ya'll tommorow...

HeartNana
09-07-2007, 10:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkFy6p0czH4 <--- lawlz at 1:55 Man, that lilica is almost as bad as mine :lol:

And man, the combo's that the mei fang did in the 2nd link are off tha hook. She's so awesome.:lovin:

Nastrodamus
09-07-2007, 11:07 AM
is there any big names in japan i should watch or know about... cuse i know some Melty blood.. but i neva here of any in arcana.. until ao (lette that won the tourney right?) i mean i know the big names in the US... but i would like to know the big names in Japan as well.. just wondering...:wonder:

also new vids up in arcana...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16mQ737L4Hs

Love lisolette.. weird

Saotome Kaneda
09-07-2007, 11:13 AM
is there any big names in japan i should watch or know about... cuse i know some Melty blood.. but i neva here of any in arcana.. until ao (lette that won the tourney right?) i mean i know the big names in the US... but i would like to know the big names in Japan as well.. just wondering...:wonder:

also new vids up in arcana...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16mQ737L4Hs

Love lisolette.. weird
It's still a little too early.

Nastrodamus
09-07-2007, 11:15 AM
It's still a little too early.



haha i know... just wondering tis all...:china:

XAQshinor
09-07-2007, 09:41 PM
i kno about nao, decoy, ao, reoth, keeroc, asa etc etc
i only care about nao and decoy though :3

Sabin
09-07-2007, 09:53 PM
if you looking for the killers in arcana around japan, just check the sbo list that i posted in english. it has most if not all of the big names for arcana.

dscythe: yeah theres other liese killers in Japan, Ao isn't the only one. He's definetely one of the best ones though.

Hyperhal
09-07-2007, 09:56 PM
I don't know any of the names, and I'm probably not gonna care until I either get to Japan or they come here. My only big name is fubarduck. :(

Get hype, arcana tourney today!

Ken and DS, let me know when you're getting in so I can escort some lamers

[SLAYER]chaos
09-07-2007, 11:20 PM
What time is everyone gonna be at the arcade. I'm thinking about coming down at 3.

someAzNdude
09-08-2007, 12:17 AM
I don't know any of the names, and I'm probably not gonna care until I either get to Japan or they come here. My only big name is fubarduck. :(

Get hype, arcana tourney today!

Ken and DS, let me know when you're getting in so I can escort some lamers

We're planning on getting on the bus at 12:30pm, so we should be there at like around 2-3pm

orka
09-08-2007, 06:30 AM
woowoo! my heartmatic collection arrived yesturday. it's pretty nice, although not as comprehensive on strats.

play-asia also sent me a devil may cry stamp collection... wtf, i didn't order that. :confused:

HeartNana
09-08-2007, 12:19 PM
I know a lot of you check youtube all the time for recent video's, but this one stood out to me:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_H_6IPf5NfE

I thought it was SUPER well played by both sides, and just overall a perfect example of high level play.

One of the best matches ive seen in a long time.

Fatal K.O
09-08-2007, 02:52 PM
Yo, anyone here have a translation of the characters' backstories by any chance?

orka
09-08-2007, 02:57 PM
i could translate some of them if nobody's done it yet...

for which characters would you like?

woof
09-08-2007, 02:59 PM
fiona

orka
09-08-2007, 03:01 PM
so, nobody's translated these i assume?

okay... i'll translate fiona either later today or tomorrow, and do some other characters if people want to read more of them.

Fatal K.O
09-08-2007, 03:02 PM
Lol was about to ask for Fiona too. Good call yo. :3

It'd be nice if you could get stuff on Saki too. Been dying to know just exactly how she's related to Heart and Fiona.

Clear Sky
09-08