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HeartNana
07-04-2007, 08:33 PM
LOL!! Stay hungry for DAT MWC, along with AH2 in majors hopefully. :wink:

http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - The Arcana Wikipedia
IRC Channel - EFnet #Arcana
PS2 Menu Translation - Thanks to Zakuta (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4385392&postcount=2642)
Color Chart (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/gara04.html)

Since the other thread had a ton of posts and too much clutter, with the news announced, i figured it's best we create a new thread with more information at the beginning. Here we go:

What is Arcana Heart?
-Arcana Heart is a 2D fighting game created by Yuki. It was released in Japanese arcades December 22nd 2006.

What kind of characters are in Arcana Heart?
-It involves a cast of only females. For more information on the characters, check out this link here:
http://www.examu.co.jp/arcanaheart/chara.html
and
http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/index.html - Where it says the names of the characters, it shows their moves

How do you play the game, and what are the notations while you're at it?
-Everything is done in the number notation. Here's what it is:
u/b u u/f
b - n - f
d/b d d/f

translates into

789
456
123

A = Light
B = Mid
C = Strong
D = Homing Button

66 = Dash Forward
44 = Backdash
66 in the air = Air Dash Forward
44 in the air = Air Dash Backwards
7_8_9 = Jump
7_8_9 in the air = Double Jump
27_28_29 = Super Jump
866 = Instant Air Dash (also shortened to iad or IAD)
A+D = Throw (can usually be followed up into a combo, but has a somewhat large break window)
6A+D = Alternate throw (can't be followed up into a combo, but has a small break window)
A+D (at time of getting thrown) = Throw Break

There is air blocking, but certain moves cannot be blocked in the air.

What does the homing button do?
-It has 4 purposes:
1) Homing Cancel (abbreviated to HC), you can cancel your moves with the D button to create a Homing cancel (provided you use one homing bar of your homing gauge). This has a couple uses, you can use it to continue combo's by cancelling the recovery time of moves. You can also use it to turn a normally unsafe move into advantage by cancelling the recovery on it. These two are the main uses for homing cancels. As for the notation, if something is written HC6, then you homing cancel forward.
2) GC = Guard Cancel, while guarding, you can use the D button to cancel through and cancel the blockstun. Similar to Homing Cancels, GC6 is guard cancel forward, GC4 is guard cancel backwards. If you guard cancel forward (depending on your arcana choice, but we'll not get into that now), a red shield that clashes the opponents attacks pops up in front of you as you charge forward. If you guard cancel backwards, your character takes a jump back (meaning it'll go over lows) and then if you don't cancel the jump back in the air (only certain moves can be cancelled in this way), your character will automatically run forward after she's done with the jump back.
3) Movement. You can use the D button to do movements that you couldnt normally do. If you hold down the D button and your opponent is on the other side of the screen, you'll fly toward your opponent, literally. If you hold down forward and D, you'll dash along the ground, 4D will do a quick backdash, but like a guard cancel backwards, will send your characters with a forward dash after that.
4) Arcana usage - to be explained below

Can you explain the homing gauge a bit more in depth?
-There are two different effects of using a homing bar. If you use a homing cancel or a guard cancel, one bar of your homing gauge gets "X"ed out.
-If you use the D button to move or you tech off the ground or wall, it takes one bar of your homing gauge, but does not X it out.

How do i get my homing bars back then?
-There are 2 ways, one is to activate your arcana that you get once a round. This replinishes your homing gauge fully, and can only be done once a round.
-The only other way is time. If your homing bar is Xed out, then you have to wait for the X to disappear before your bar can begin to recover. Once the X disappears, your bar will begin to regenerate until it is full. Then it works on the next bar until your gauge is full. Now bars regenerate anytime you DONT use a homing cancel or guard cancel. If you're sitting there doing nothing, it'll recover (even if it doesnt look like it when the X bars are there, theyre indeed recovering). If you're hitting the opponent, if youre getting hit, your bar will recover. However, once you use a homing cancel if you're comboing the opponent, your bar will not recover for the duration of the combo.

What is an "Arcana"?
-An Arcana is something that you choose after you select your character. They're all "themed" (ex, fire, water, dark, death, etc) and each do different things, whether it be give a fireball to your character, or the ability to teleport or set out traps on the ground. There are three main parts to an arcana choice:
1) Moves. They each have their own movelist that's done with the D button. The stone one has a 41236D move thats a big stone punch. The leaf one has a 236D which is a vine hit forward. The fire one has fireballs. The lighting one has lightning strikes. etc. All specials are done with the D button. However, some arcana's have things that they give to the character that isn't a direct attack. An example is that Partineas, the Love arcana has a special ability that if you double jump in the air and then hold [8], you'll float down as opposed to falling at normal speed. This is just one such example.
2) Supers. In addition to regular attacks, they each have their own special super. It takes one bar for each of these as well, just like a regular super. All Supers are done with the D button.
3) Arcana summons. In Arcana activated mode, done with A+B+C, which acts as a burst and will get you out of MOST attacks (not during the middle of supers, but any other time, yes). During this time, your special bar depletes and during this time, each arcana has a different "effect" that is linked below. In addition, you can summon the actual arcana itself with 236A+B+C. This differs depending on which one you choose. Some of them are a one time grab and its either hit or miss, others are a giant attack on the screen, etc. They're all different. Using that uses up the rest of your special bar, whether you had 9 bars left or half of your last bar left, it will drain it and do the same damage.
For a list of the arcana's and what they do, go to the same link as before:
http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/index.html
Under the characters is the arcana section. Here's the translation of the links in order (some of the names of the arcanas might be a little off, but its something like that):
Love arcana Partineas (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_herat.html)
Electricity arcana Bhanri (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_saki.html)
Time arcana Anutpuda (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_kamui.html)
Wood arcana Moriomoto (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_konoha.html)
Earth arcana Otsuchi (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_maori.html)
Fire arcana Lang Gong (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_mai.html)
Wind arcana Tempestras (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_lilica.html)
Dark arcana Gier (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_liese.html)
Evil arcana Dieu Mort (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_yoriko.html)
Water arcana Niptra (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_kira.html)
Steel arcana Orochalekos (http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/a_fiona.html)
And as promised from above:
What each arcana does after the A+B+C activation (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4080347&postcount=89)

Any other things i should know?
-As i mentioned earlier, if you do A+D to throw the opponent, you can follow up with a combo (for most characters) if you use a homing bar, but the break window is much larger than if you throw with A+D. Hence why when watching vids, you might see more players using 6 or 4A+D instead of the other one that does more damage.
-Clashing properties: Thanks to someAzNdude for this post (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4241238&postcount=1234)
-When you tech off the ground or off a wall, you are invulnerable to attacks, but very vulnerable to throws. However, after you tech, you can do special and super moves almost immediatly off the ground.
Moves that are unblockable in the air (thanks again to someAzNdude for the list, i just edited a couple things):
All 3Cs and 6Cs are air unblockable no matter which character is using it.
Certain characters have air unblockables other than 3/6C
Mei Fang, Yoriko, and Konoha has 6B
Kamui has 3B
Kira has 2B, 5B, 5C
Maori has 623A
Fiona has 623AB
Love Arcana 236A+B+C activation super

Wow, sounds awesome! Console port anytime soon?
Sabin Edit - PS2 RELEASE WAS ANNOUNCED BY ATLUS TODAY - COMING OUT IN THE USA 4/08/08. GET LOLI!!!!!!!!!

-Why yes, in fact, it was just announced that OCTOBER 11th, 2007 for the JAPANESE PS2 is the release date of the game. For more info, go to the Offical Arcana Heart PS2 Site (http://www.aqi.co.jp/product/arcana/index.html)
And also on October 11th, the Official Hori Arcana Heart Joystick (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070809/arcana01.htm) comes out as well.
Opening movie to PS2 version:
will update shortly

Whats this i hear about Arcana Heart and Arcana Heart Full? What's the difference?
-Arcana Heart Full is an update to Arcana Heart that was released around April. Because it was about $800, some arcade operators did not recieve it. The difference comes down to balance differences for the characters, and a training mode in the arcade version. There's a few graphical differences, such as the pictures of the characters under their names and the color of the clock, but not much else.
For a list of all the changes, check out this post (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=3795662&highlight=full#post3795662)

So which one is the console version going to be?
-The console version will be Arcana Heart Full, but will give the option to use the regular Arcana Heart versions of characters. Most likely, all tournaments will be run on Full only, though.

Any other console information? Translation, etc?
-Translation: Right here in this post (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4385392&postcount=2642)

Well, until then, is there any place i could go to play it outside of Japan?
-Sure, Chinatown Fair in NYC has an Arcana Heart Full machine,
University Pinball in Philadelphia now has an Arcana Heart Full machine, Arcade Infinity in California has an Arcana Heart machine, and Planet Zero in Houston has an Arcana Heart Full machine. Also, lovegety in Toronto has a Regular Arcana Heart machine.

Story?
Overall story still not translated. So far (thanks to Orka) the only character who has a translated story so far is:
Fiona Mayfield (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4271429&postcount=1458)

Match Vids?
http://youtube.com/user/arcanaarcana is a good source for vids for people to watch. However, they haven't added a new vid in 2 months, but they have many good vids on their site.
Other sources for vids:
http://www.youtube.com/user/tokinomiyarei
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=PIANIST999
http://www.youtube.com/user/ftnr18
http://youtube.com/user/henvoke recently put up some vids

IRC Channel?
#arcana on efnet - We consistently have at least 35-40 people in there. If you have any questions or just wanna talk about arcana, head in there. Many of the regulars in this thread frequent that channel.

Anywhere else to go?
http://www.guardcrush.net/forums/index.php? - A small forum with a bit of arcana info
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=121441 - The old legendary Arcana thread.
http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - The Arcana Wikipedia

Tier List?
- Long story short, arcana is too hard to tier. Arcana's make a huge difference. However, it's widely agreed that in the original AH, that the 3 K's make the top three characters, Konoha, Kamui, Kira. For top tier Full, the Japanese players tend to think Lieselotte is top tier, but after that, it really gets fuzzy because any of the characters are really good. However its widely agreed that Fiona and Yoriko are at the bottom (theres almost no question about this one), but that doesn't necisarilly make them unplayable, or unable to win with them. They just take a bit more effort because their damage output is low for the risk involved with the character. Everyone else in between is just that - somewhere in between. Keep in mind the arcana selection also makes a huge difference to some characters. Having a top tier character but a bad arcana can lose to a lower tier character with a good arcana. I will say this though:
The game is balanced enough where you can play whatever character you want to and still win.
Those wondering who the top is so they can play them and win, its not that easy. Those wondering if their character is gonna be bottom tier, don't worry, you'll be fine with whoever you pick as long as they match how you play. So stop asking about tiers and just play who you want to. You'de be better off watching videos to see how characters play instead of looking at a small list that says which characters are better than which. =P
edit: It doesnt look like people understand the concept of:
The game is balanced enough where you can play whatever character you want to and still win.

You can ignore everything i wrote about tiers up above as long as you look at this. Ill say it again:
The game is balanced enough where you can play whatever character you want to and still win.


Character Specific info:
HeartNana's Lilica Bread and Butter Combo explanation (http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Lilica_Felchenerow#Combos)
HeartNana's Lilica arcana evaluation (http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Lilica_Felchenerow#Arcana_Evaluation)

What's this i hear about a fan-disk?
-8/17/2007 is the release of the first (assuming there are more) Arcana Heart Fan-disk. The contents of the disk are located in this post (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4158713&postcount=556)

Other info:
Lingo and other abbreviations (or nicknames given):
AH = Arcana Heart
AHF = Arcana Heart Full
236X = 236A, B, or C, no difference in which button used. The 236 is just an example, but the X means any of A,B or C can be used for the move.
KSD = Kira Sama Driver - Her 360 spin the joystick throw (Thanks to Saotome Kaneda for this one)
Anal Beads = The Earth Arcana (Otsuchi) 41236D punch (Thanks to Saotome Kaneda for this one)
FS = Flash Step, Lilica's instant cancel, click on the Bread and Butter combo link above for an explanation
GuruGuru Punch = Heart's 236A+B
Pentagram = Yoriko's 632146X
Spike = The Nickname of Yoriko's staff - Miche
Oppai Robo = Mei Fang
Oppai Smash = Mei Fang's air 1236X
Robo Tackle = Mei Fang's 623A+B
Sister Drop = Maori's 22X
Nee-San = Maori's 421X
Dash Punch = Konoha's 623X
Water Bubbles = Niptra (water arcana)'s 214X or 214A+B floaty bubbles
Fire Super = Lang Gong (fire arcana's) 632146D
Boomerang = Tempestras (wind arcana's) 236D
Push Block = Tempestras (wind arcana's) 6D while blocking


Super Battle Opera Qualifiers List (English) (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4081010&postcount=96)
Suber Battle Opera Qualifiers List (Japanese) (http://www.tougeki.com/list/ah.html)
More to be added soon...if there's anything you have questions about, please post in the thread and and one of us will do what we can to answer it.

http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - The Arcana Wikipedia

Bob Poundmax
07-04-2007, 08:38 PM
I'm first in here!!!!

Who is the sword chick?I didnt bother watching match vids as of yet but with the impending realease I better get my knowledge up.

EDIT:HeartNana, link the old thread too because that one is just too legendary to forget.

altergenesis
07-04-2007, 08:39 PM
Good thread. Excited about the news of Arcana Heart to PS2. Those that know me know that this is my kind of game.

P.S. Her name is Kamui.

JubeiNinja69
07-04-2007, 08:40 PM
yes! its coming to the ps2. i want to play this game so badly but theres none around here.

Hyperhal
07-04-2007, 09:01 PM
Whether this topic is needed or not, first post is very good/helpful.

Mizuki
07-04-2007, 09:06 PM
This game looks more animu than Melty Blood. This is AWFUL. :rolleyes:

p.s. H.Nana WHY ARE YOU NOT GOING TO EVO! RAWR

Sabin
07-04-2007, 09:15 PM
95,000+ views. I'm gonna miss the old thread. But at the same time I guess this is gonna make people on SRK more aware of the ps2 port, and thats a good thing.

You fuckers better all jump on this when console release drops, dont let our hard work be for nothing! :)

Bob Poundmax
07-04-2007, 09:20 PM
Good thread. Excited about the news of Arcana Heart to PS2. Those that know me know that this is my kind of game.

P.S. Her name is Kamui.

Thanks man....Now the only thing I have to do now is develop a scene for this game in my area:party:. Easier said than done.

EDIT:
95,000+ views. I'm gonna miss the old thread. But at the same time I guess this is gonna make people on SRK more aware of the ps2 port, and thats a good thing.

You fuckers better all jump on this when console release drops, dont let our hard work be for nothing! :)
I cant speak for everyone, but I do appreciate all you guys hard work. I think no one was hardcore enough to care because there was literaly like 4 places you had to be to play it. A new game for consoles that's been in the arcades is kind of a big deal. Here's to hoping this makes it into evo next year.

shijui
07-04-2007, 09:44 PM
i think the one in richmond, Canada is Regular last time i checked

Superking
07-04-2007, 09:46 PM
i think the one in richmond, Canada is Regular last time i checked

They didn't update it yet? I haven't been there since the second week after they first got it, which was a long time ago. =x

PARKER C.MURDOCK
07-04-2007, 09:54 PM
I haven't played this game yet but will I be able to pick this up at an American game store ever?

Saotome Kaneda
07-04-2007, 09:58 PM
POSTING IN LEGENDARY THREAD


The other one will probably get closed soon.











EDIT: 6[C]

HeartNana
07-04-2007, 09:59 PM
I haven't played this game yet but will I be able to pick this up at an American game store ever?

Most likely not, unless that american game store sells imports.

PARKER C.MURDOCK
07-04-2007, 10:10 PM
Most likely not, unless that american game store sells imports.

that sucks, i guess I'll have to get back on play-asia.

Faight
07-04-2007, 10:16 PM
Goal in October: Order Jap PS2 and Arcana Heart. Finally, I can lust over the characters from the safety of my own bedroom.

Not that I don't do that already.

I mean I don't.

I mean-

Gorehound
07-04-2007, 10:36 PM
I didn't knew people actually played Arcana Heart!!

Every time I go the arcade to play AH, nobody plays it at all!!

Random123456789
07-04-2007, 10:38 PM
So the PS2 version is AH or AHF! ?

Dark Geese
07-04-2007, 10:58 PM
We have no knowledge yet if its Full or not.

Prepare fuckers..I'm learning this hardcore to take you all out!!!! :rofl:

HeartNana
07-04-2007, 11:15 PM
There's no reason for them to make the PS2 version NOT AHF.

Gorehound - people play it, just not in Cali, it seems, since nobody ever hears anything from them. Most of the people that are on here who play are:
NY/EC area
Texas/LA area
Foreigners in Japan or were in Japan

Zaelar
07-04-2007, 11:54 PM
I'll likely be accepting money matches from everyone starting around october 13th.

It won't be the same without someone asking when the ps2 release is coming out every other page.....................or will it?

When's the ps2 release?

woof
07-05-2007, 02:34 AM
im in this thread


also dont forget about my HOW TO PLAY ARCANA HEART!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opdbvhjjhS0) video tutorial

people need to step their shit up and start playin once console release comes .. no excuses!!

Faight
07-05-2007, 02:45 AM
im in this thread


also dont forget about my HOW TO PLAY ARCANA HEART!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opdbvhjjhS0) video tutorial

people need to step their shit up and start playin once console release comes .. no excuses!!

What if we have a good excuse like working 11 months a year on the other side of the planet where you might get shot every day and no one else plays video games or something? I know it's kind of a weak excuse but hey, I can try.

woof
07-05-2007, 03:08 AM
What if we have a good excuse like working 11 months a year on the other side of the planet where you might get shot every day and no one else plays video games or something? I know it's kind of a weak excuse but hey, I can try.
cant hear you

Saotome Kaneda
07-05-2007, 03:08 AM
What if we have a good excuse like working 11 months a year on the other side of the planet where you might get shot every day and no one else plays video games or something? I know it's kind of a weak excuse but hey, I can try.
stop pwning plz

Faight
07-05-2007, 03:33 AM
stop pwning plz

Get deployed to the sandbox so we can play Arcana Heart. Please. <3

Master Chibi
07-05-2007, 07:08 AM
im in this thread


also dont forget about my HOW TO PLAY ARCANA HEART!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opdbvhjjhS0) video tutorial

people need to step their shit up and start playin once console release comes .. no excuses!!

yeah son

all 12 of you!

why didn't ANYONE tape Rob?

im still mad about that shit.

fuckers

altergenesis
07-05-2007, 07:39 AM
For sure, I'll be shoving Arcana Heart down people's throats. =D

Sabin
07-05-2007, 07:48 AM
i better see AHF in like, every major next year. :looney:

XAQshinor
07-05-2007, 09:25 AM
XD i get to play this game seriously and not get owned up in
CF tournaments in 3 months and 1 week!!!!!!!!! GET HYPE FOR
MY 1337 MEIFANG SKILLS NUBZ! PPL WORLDWIDE WILL FEAR MY
MASSIVE BUBZ.

damn i cant wait, this announcement made my day haha

Clear Sky
07-05-2007, 09:35 AM
Heavy wishing but I hope the console release is AH2.

lcm
07-05-2007, 10:17 AM
glad to hear this.

this game didnt get run at our last weeklies because we ran out of interest :sad:

Master Chibi
07-05-2007, 10:41 AM
Art, you see this?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=134462

;P

zer0_858
07-05-2007, 10:49 AM
I'm glad this is finally getting a home release I've been wanting to play this game ever since i saw vids of it. This is going to be great seeing that I am going to have my stick finished soon.

Akuma4Real
07-05-2007, 10:54 AM
I didn't knew people actually played Arcana Heart!!

Every time I go the arcade to play AH, nobody plays it at all!!

Do you play at AI? Let's play! I usually go on Fridays and play mostly my friends, ever since i've gotten the hang of the game a bit I don't play as many people anymore. One guy was going to play...then he looked closely at my win streak and he went away :sad: Anyway, yeah go SoCal! We're #1 at Arcana Heart!!!hahaha

Sabin
07-05-2007, 11:32 AM
Chibi,

I wish I could buy it :sad: Me and Deathscythe (before Arcana ran my pockets dry) were talking abotu chillin in for a board way back then. If I had the funds I would still buy it outright just cause it's one of my favorite games, and I prefer arcade waaaayyy over console. I'm gonna be fucking heated if this version is not arcade perfect/fucked up.

there better be a option of original/arranged music.
more colors/color edit mode would be pretty sweet.

I don'texpect there to be much if any new options, but I'm hoping Yuki doesn't fuck the port up royally...oh well..only a handful of ppl are gonna know if its arcade perfect or not. In the end I'll play regardless but it's like whatever.

Clear Sky, I kinda disagree. I'd rather have it NOT be AH2 and that the arcade release of that game ges pushed back until the spring or something at the very LEAST. Why? This game hasn't hit it's peak yet in Japan, people are STILL finding out new crap...and shit hasnt even been out for a year yet domestically (talking about JPN again.) Bwsides, I wan't a American scene for this game to develop!

Man, I'm so happy thinking abotu the potential comp I can get in NY.. (mostly xaq/zar/vic when hes not tired) but who knows. anyone could be a random killer cause this game is not difficult to get into. Now Rob, if either of us loses to anyone else at this point (when console drops) it'll suck... (except if its TX crew..) but hopefully it'll give ppl some kind of goal to reach for now. All I'm saying is, noone better beat you before I get my runback. ^_^

BTW, again, I'm sorry I could not get any footage for yall. I asked my friend if they would let me borrow their minidv cameras and they said no - mine got stolen, and vic's wasn't working. If yall remember I DID record a total of 5 Arcana Heart tourneys + Showdown Championships + FRX and mad mad casuals and put it all up on Google Video. its well over 10 hrs of footage. I'm just sorry I couldn't do the same for yall this time.

If anything when I get to Japan, I'll be sure to post about the Arcana scene up there...if someone wants to lend (cause I won't have the money to buy a new camera at this point obviously) me a camera for my use, I'm positive I will record hella Arcana footage for everyone (and other games as well cause I don't just play AH.) But yeah I'm disappointed that there was no footage either. :(

And Rob, you should link the old thread in the 1st post, just cause that thatrad was legendary. You should have waited until it got to 100k+ views to post this new one just cause, but whatever. :P

New videos - @ Gamechariot (www.gamechariot.com)
click on logo to enter, click 6th red button in the top frame (06movie.html)
then click the download button next to the AH logo. 3 new videos from 5/19.

There are also new videos at http://shakujii.jp/ .

Just click on the main page ad you'll ee the matches on the top left. Should be self explanator.

well i'm out for now. You better believe that I'm spamming the news of this release to everyone. :P

kenmastersX
07-05-2007, 12:14 PM
Waiting for the ps2 release, since this game is epic, and I don't want to use a few more thousand dollars for this game alone. :/

Master Chibi
07-05-2007, 12:17 PM
Rob, give me Lilica's easiest / universal BnB. I want to see exactly what I'm getting myself into.

Fadedsun303
07-05-2007, 12:19 PM
I'm so pumped that this is coming out on console! My only way to play the game would be to take a bus to NY, and then pay a bunch of money play it all day. And I can't afford to do that for a game that I have no idea how to play yet. I'll just go there and lose all my money. lol

HeartNana
07-05-2007, 12:27 PM
Rob, give me Lilica's easiest / universal BnB. I want to see exactly what I'm getting myself into.
Furthest possible distance hitting with 2C:
HC6 5A 5B 236a~C 236B 236C 236B 236C 236A j.B j.BC
normal 2C distance:
HC6 5A 5B 214BA+C 5B 236a~C 236B 236C 236B 236C 236A j.B j.BC

And if you want to extend it, after 236C you have to immediately do HC2 and then buffer in your next 236a~C before you even land and then do it immediately. You can then do 4 heel kicks, so after you HC2 and do 236a~C, you do 236B 236C 236B 236C 236B 236C and after that you can again choose to use another homing cancel or do 236A j.B j.BC to finish.

In the corner, you can do things like:
2C HC6 5B 214BA+C 5B 214BA+C 5B 214BA+C 5B 214BA+C run forward a little AB 214BA+C 5B 236a~C 236A j.B j.BC

This is just one example because you can do do a 5B 214BA+C 5B run forward 5A 5B 214BA+C 5B run forward etc a few times before doing three 5B's into heel kick finisher.

For simplicity purposes, im gonna call:
214B~A+C (or any variation that gives the instant cancel) the "Flash Step" (You can also do it with 214A A+C if that makes it easier for you. Use whatever works the best)

but its not just combos, you're gonna end up using the Flash Step all the time when playing her. Example is this vid here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0G5moM1-U

Youve got to be ready to do a ton of inputs and not mess up with a single one for things to really go well.

And the air loops are the EASY part about Lilica. Things like hitting them in the air with like, j.A j.B and then doing 623A 236A 236A HC8 j.A 623A 236A 236C 236A+B (on third hit) HC5 (hold down D) j.B 623A 236A 236A HC8 623A 236A 236C is like, easy mode Lilica...

Also, for when you dont have bar, you should know how to do 5C into 236a~B 236C, or 2C into 623B 236A 236A 236A+B, etc.

Other combo starters:
5C 236a~B 236C. You can't get any more heel kicks after that, but you can land and do HC6 on the ground and do 5B into whatever you want, whether it be 5B 236a~C or 5B Flash Step 5B Flash Step 5B in the corner.

236A+B, after the first hit, HC2 or HC1 and then you can do 236a~C into her loop from that.

Accel Slide (214A/B/C or 236A/B/C) B 236C. You can do the accel slide into the low slide and then do that straight into 236C to start her loop from that.

For future purposes, i may abbreviate Flash Step to FS.

lcm
07-05-2007, 01:15 PM
Stunts there were about 12 to 13 ppl in tourney. Are you the maori player from Houston?

yeah, thats me.

didn't read the question til today and woulda posted in the other thread but i figure that one will get closed soon.

just wish more houston peeps would keep playing the game. seems like interest level is on the way out the door. :sad:

Master Chibi
07-05-2007, 01:21 PM
Thank you Rob, I appreciate it.

<3

Sabin
07-05-2007, 01:33 PM
7 new videos posted up today thanks to sibladeko of EFNet #Arcana for the find

http://www.youtube.com/user/daruism

woof
07-05-2007, 01:56 PM
just wish more houston peeps would keep playing the game. seems like interest level is on the way out the door.
i really wish i had time/money to make another trip out there, but the next time i head to houston will be for trashday prolly

DS
07-05-2007, 04:18 PM
Chibi,

I wish I could buy it :sad: Me and Deathscythe (before Arcana ran my pockets dry) were talking abotu chillin in for a board way back then. If I had the funds I would still buy it outright just cause it's one of my favorite games, and I prefer arcade waaaayyy over console. I'm gonna be fucking heated if this version is not arcade perfect/fucked up.




It's still possible to get it, but console really kills the buzz for that. And it would be nice to get a few extra folks in there for the purchase since EVERYONE in our tiny AH scene will play it.

I agree that the console version better be arcade perfect.

Furthest possible distance hitting with 2C:
HC6 5A 5B 236a~C 236B 236C 236B 236C 236A j.B j.BC
normal 2C distance:
HC6 5A 5B 214BA+C 5B 236a~C 236B 236C 236B 236C 236A j.B j.BC

And if you want to extend it, after 236C you have to immediatly do HC2 and then buffer in your next 236a~C before you even land and then do it immediatly.

In the corner, you can do things like:
2C HC6 5B 214BA+C 5B 214BA+C 5B 214BA+C 5B 214BA+C run forward a little AB 214BA+C 5B 236a~C 236A j.B j.BC

but its not just combos, you're gonna end up using the 214BA+C/236BA+C thing all the time when playing her. Example is this vid here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0G5moM1-U

Youve got to be ready to do a ton of inputs and not mess up with a single one for things to really go well.

And the air loops are the EASY part about Lilica. Things like hitting them in the air with like, j.A j.B and then doing 623A 236A 236A HC8 j.A 623A 236A 236C 236A+B (on third hit) HC5 (hold down D) j.B 623A 236A 236A HC8 623A 236A 236C is like, easy mode Lilica...

Also, for when you dont have bar, you should know how to do 5C into 236a~B 236C, or 2C into 623B 236A 236A 236A+B, etc.


I think you've typed this out like, 5 times in the past few months. =p

And co-sign on the air loops being the easiest part about Lilica. It doesn't take long to practice those.

In other news: Please, Rob! COME BACK TO US!!!!! No homo.

tianyuan
07-05-2007, 04:51 PM
ggs with Ken today... Yoriko is a good counter character vs Saki. Thanks you Ken =3= I think I will use her more... if I go to CF again, lol!

Shinto
07-05-2007, 05:16 PM
Shinto Blesses this thread with random thoughts:

Yay Ps2 release, now I can have my friends diss me harder for playing a all girl game :confused:

Next time I'll play this game is probably Saturday after the MOVIES!!!!!!!!Hopefully no one is there :wink: Ken

ggs with Ken today... Yoriko is a good counter character vs Saki. Thanks you Ken =3= I think I will use her more... if I go to CF again, lol!
NOOOOO less yoriko and more konoha:annoy:

Hyperhal
07-05-2007, 05:17 PM
ggs with Ken today... Yoriko is a good counter character vs Saki. Thanks you Ken =3= I think I will use her more... if I go to CF again, lol!

Wait what the hell, tian you play Yoriko now too?

Saotome Kaneda
07-05-2007, 07:16 PM
Art, you see this?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=134462

;P
MINE


get your grubby little hands off my fucking board


MINEMINEMINEMINE

Clear Sky
07-05-2007, 09:05 PM
Clear Sky, I kinda disagree. I'd rather have it NOT be AH2 and that the arcade release of that game ges pushed back until the spring or something at the very LEAST. Why? This game hasn't hit it's peak yet in Japan, people are STILL finding out new crap...and shit hasnt even been out for a year yet domestically (talking about JPN again.) Bwsides, I wan't a American scene for this game to develop!


Well...the game has dropped down in it's high second place ranking in Arcadia's most recent ranking (which you can access at their official website). I don't know if that makes much of an impact in telling us how well the game is actually doing in Japan, but it must tell us something right useful right? I mean, how could the game drop down in it's ranking so far down, especially so when SBO is only two months away?? I'd expect the opposite to happen.

Having a console version as soon as possible would greatly help expand the North American scene, since it would give us more time to let the scene grow, which in turn would give us more of a chance for the game to be accepted as an officially sponsored EVO game in the future. Though I see your point for the Japanese scene. Less, new exciting things would be able to be discovered if Yuki presses on to release AH2 early, but honestly I don't mind in a selfish way because I would rather play the most recent version of AH ASAP, since I doubt that my arcade will get AHF, or even AH2, if that one is an upgrade as well. :I

someAzNdude
07-06-2007, 07:02 AM
Next time I'll play this game is probably Saturday after the MOVIES!!!!!!!!Hopefully no one is there :wink: Ken


What? Movies again??? Get your priorities straight already. You need to get your shit down in AHF! :annoy:

And you bet I'll be there Saturday! Just because you said that :rofl:

Demon Dash
07-06-2007, 07:07 AM
Well...the game has dropped down in it's high second place ranking in Arcadia's most recent ranking (which you can access at their official website). I don't know if that makes much of an impact in telling us how well the game is actually doing in Japan, but it must tell us something right useful right? I mean, how could the game drop down in it's ranking so far down, especially so when SBO is only two months away?? I'd expect the opposite to happen.
Maybe people don't like the update...That's one reason it could suddenly drop...

tataki
07-06-2007, 07:17 AM
tier list for full?

zer0_858
07-06-2007, 08:32 AM
I wonder if the console version will give us the option of picking which version we can play..

tianyuan
07-06-2007, 08:56 AM
Wait what the hell, tian you play Yoriko now too?

I picked Yoriko with random select and Ken taught me a few tricks and I beat him on the first try:looney: Unfortunately I couldn't beat his Maori with Yoriko. Couldn't revenge for you brother... From now on:

Yoriko vs Saki
Kamui (love) vs Maori
Kamui (water) vs Fiona

Mario > Clash:wink:

Episode_667
07-06-2007, 09:43 AM
I wonder if the console version will give us the option of picking which version we can play..

From insert credt (http://insertcredit.com/):

As expected, the game will be based on the latest revision for the arcades, namely "Full!", though the original version will also be present. Seems that you even will be able to mix characters from both versions. A gallery mode is also confirmed, as well as a full-voiced story mode. According to Gemu-Gemu Mania, Famitsu states that Ecole Software [Melty Blood Act Cadenza] is involved in the development. The official site has just opened, revealing the package cover (pictured).

zer0_858
07-06-2007, 10:06 AM
@Episode_667
Thanks thats good to know.

HeartNana
07-06-2007, 10:37 AM
Its good to know, but at the same time, i would hope that tournies and such are done on full, because regular AH Kamui/Gier vs anyone in Full is just plain stupid.

Master Chibi
07-06-2007, 10:41 AM
Ugh, Ecole's port of MB isn't arcade perfect (wayyyy faster) but let's hope this AH port is.

Personally I still want Rumble Fish 2 god damn it.

woof
07-06-2007, 11:19 AM
SUCH A PRECIOUS GAME COVER


man i really hope the way for selecting old versions is like ST or something
select old kamui and youd hear the sound effect for homing cancel back SUPER

Master Chibi
07-06-2007, 11:46 AM
I don't know who is doing the top art imgaes for that arcana party blog, but those images are pretty damn hot, even Kamui looks great <3.

asianxcore
07-06-2007, 11:57 AM
Awesome news about the PS2 release.

I'm happy that I'll finally get to play this game.

XAQshinor
07-06-2007, 12:11 PM
good shit. i downloaded the meifang background now
that they put it up finally.

Sabin
07-06-2007, 12:46 PM
<-- changed my avatar to the one on the arcana party site, to increase awareness of the game, also, any time I post now it's going to say "Arcana Heart PS2" lol. Keep in mind I haven't changed my avatar in 4 years either, but Arcana is that serious, lets go. :looney:

btw that box art looks GDLK and so does the new kamui on the front of the arcana party page. so serious. I actuall have to buy this game just for the box art alone now. I realize the reason im not beasting in this game is b/c im no ta outright arcana heart fanboy. Well, that'll change soon :rofl:

Oh man...I hope ecole doesnt fuck up the controls like they did in melty blood
i tried playing it last weekend and i couldnt even get nero's fucking deer
i dont know how ppl can play melty hardbody when im struggling out to get basic stuff....arcana's system is way more fluid to me control wise

i dont know enough about the game (melty) to say whether its good or bad
but the controls are a real problem yea =/


Oh man...I'm pretty pumped about the fact that they are leaving Arcana Heart refular in the game

I like normal heart over Regular Heart.. haha
Rob u wanna money match me, vanilla AH Lilica vs Kamui? :rofl:

oh and Clear Sky: I mean i'm coming a it from a selfish standpoint too...I want to give this game enough time to develop and have some decent sized tourneys in the USA beacuse I spent so much time playing this game, so that would be nice if 2007 had some beast Arcana Heart tourneys. I know I'm gonna do my best o get ppl interested in this game, and I hope everyone else does oo, because i feel this ame has a chance of being played compeively in the USA unlike all those dead on arrival fighting games that have come out recently...

But yeah, about Arcana being popular or no in Japan still, I wouldn't take that list at face vallue. We don't even know how they are coming up with those rather ambiguous chart #," who knows if they are biased. I remember last summer VF5 was at like #2 or something, and this was version A, I saw a lot of places get the game in Tokyo but noone was playing (compared to vf4evo.) Of course I was in Tokyo and I can't speak for the rest of Japan, but yeah, I didn't understand how the game was #2 when it was basically dead in a large city in Japan.

Gundam being #1 I never questioned though... :rofl: I can't even count that game, it's so free.

Anyway, I'm hoping that AH2 ges pushed back until like march of next year or something, so at leas ppl have some time to enjoy his game, everyone just wants to move onto the shiny new thing these days. AHF has a lot of problems but for what it's worth it's highly playable. I can't wait to get niggas get tight over some of the cheese in this game. lol.

Kaneda: WTF youre buying the board?? BALLINNNNNNNN.

Nastrodamus
07-06-2007, 01:59 PM
ay yo sabin.... lemme know when you guys play (even during weekdays) cuse i will travel up to NYC now that wilmington DE has a fob bus that goes up there...as for melty.. i dunno why they fucked up for you... they seem fine to me... but then again it's the only game i play when i get home from my job so.... lol i play that more than tekken funny as hell!!


and yo fiona aka is the beast dog... 5C aa wtf!!!

yea i hope they let this game stay out long enough for US players to grasp the idea before they realese AH2... especially for new players like me.. like comeon... i played what like once and now people are like AH2 on console... just hold on a sec man!!!

any other decent ones besides fire for fiona or is that jus the end all be all one..i saw rock.. but i hear it's low tier like the sc3 charcter lol...

woof
07-06-2007, 02:05 PM
any other decent ones besides fire for fiona or is that jus the end all be all one..i saw rock.. but i hear it's low tier like the sc3 charcter lol...
rock works with fiona .. you can really scare your opponent if you are any good at building meter

same with fire, wind, water & gier [those 2 are like universal tho]

Master Chibi
07-06-2007, 02:21 PM
Honestly you should just stick to Fire or Gier, every other Arcana just doesn't suit her all that well (imo).

tianyuan
07-06-2007, 02:47 PM
I agree with MC... Fire and Gier for Fiona.

Sabin, AH2 has to come out as soon as possible. Pushing it to next march means you have to wait about a year and half till the next SBO. Bad thing might occur... Yuki won't let that happen:) Well, it could be next summer, since it's the best time for a new fighting game to come out? And the heat usually will last for a year as long as it's going to be in SBO.

TempestFox
07-06-2007, 03:26 PM
im in this thread


also dont forget about my HOW TO PLAY ARCANA HEART!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opdbvhjjhS0) video tutorial

people need to step their shit up and start playin once console release comes .. no excuses!!


TOPPP TEIR VIDEOEZ FTW PLZ!!!!


Seriously, I was all hyped up to start playing this game and learn Lillica... but so sad to learn she's not worth it. Bah.

woof
07-06-2007, 03:28 PM
NO shes completely playable its just that when you weigh what she had in AH to AHF you suddenyl realize how much of a spoiled brat you really were


she can still compete with no prob shes just harder

TempestFox
07-06-2007, 03:30 PM
Well... going from AHF to... AHF.... I shouldn't be spoiled at all then! x)

woof
07-06-2007, 03:33 PM
EVERYONE WINS!!!!!!

Makoto Scrub
07-06-2007, 03:50 PM
Thread needs moar vids!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PpQZq-TvpV4

TempestFox
07-06-2007, 03:54 PM
What the crap... Maori's game is insanely STUPID when it actually works.

Master Chibi
07-06-2007, 04:05 PM
I like how vigor put 'gay' in the description.

Fucking poison loop, holy shit that's ugly.

:rofl:

woof
07-06-2007, 04:14 PM
Thread needs moar vids!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PpQZq-TvpV4
stunts you better be on that shit :lol:

someAzNdude
07-06-2007, 04:29 PM
Holy Crap~!! Maori and poison??? God that was one nasty loop D:
MS you need to study these Maori match vids hardcore man, get that shit down!

Saotome Kaneda
07-06-2007, 04:37 PM
man i really hope the way for selecting old versions is like ST or something
select old kamui and youd hear the sound effect for homing cancel back SUPER
this is the funniest thing I've seen you post in hours

Kaneda: WTF youre buying the board?? BALLINNNNNNNN.

you know how I roll nigga :cool:

Shinto
07-06-2007, 04:39 PM
Man that video made me cry....I don't know why but playing HnK doesn't seem as bad as that....:sad:

Clear Sky
07-06-2007, 04:43 PM
But yeah, about Arcana being popular or no in Japan still, I wouldn't take that list at face vallue. We don't even know how they are coming up with those rather ambiguous chart #," who knows if they are biased. I remember last summer VF5 was at like #2 or something, and this was version A, I saw a lot of places get the game in Tokyo but noone was playing (compared to vf4evo.) Of course I was in Tokyo and I can't speak for the rest of Japan, but yeah, I didn't understand how the game was #2 when it was basically dead in a large city in Japan.


I can't really speak for VF, but I'm not surprised about your observation since I've heard about VF bombing in Japan for quite awhile. I've read the stories of no line ups in arcades for this game, and top players dropping the game because they think it's inferior.

And anyway...I think those rankings aren't even recent when they come out. That's just my GUESS. All I'll say is I wouldn't be surprised if that were true since the strategy guides for sure are old before the issue is made. And as for the points thing...sorry I have no clue. :sweat:


Gundam being #1 I never questioned though... :rofl: I can't even count that game, it's so free.

Not surprised. We have that game here and it's hella popular. It sells more than any new, good fighter we have here, just like in Japan, lol.


oh and Clear Sky: I mean i'm coming a it from a selfish standpoint too...I want to give this game enough time to develop and have some decent sized tourneys in the USA beacuse I spent so much time playing this game, so that would be nice if 2007 had some beast Arcana Heart tourneys. I know I'm gonna do my best o get ppl interested in this game, and I hope everyone else does oo, because i feel this ame has a chance of being played compeively in the USA unlike all those dead on arrival fighting games that have come out recently...

Anyway, I'm hoping that AH2 ges pushed back until like march of next year or something, so at leas ppl have some time to enjoy his game, everyone just wants to move onto the shiny new thing these days. AHF has a lot of problems but for what it's worth it's highly playable. I can't wait to get niggas get tight over some of the cheese in this game. lol.

It's better for Japan if the game doesn't come out early from a competitive perspective, but if the popularity for this game is dying out, I think that an early AH2 release would build up hype for the game again, like Tianyuan said. As for our scene, I still say that it doesn't matter for us which version we get for the console version. If this game blows up really big in NA, the majority of players will be console players anyway...

Makoto Scrub
07-06-2007, 04:48 PM
Holy Crap~!! Maori and poison??? God that was one nasty loop D:
MS you need to study these Maori match vids hardcore man, get that shit down!
Tell me something I dont know. :P

But seriously that vids got me thinking about other loops that she might have.

woof
07-06-2007, 04:54 PM
that blues hard to read on default skin fyi

someAzNdude
07-06-2007, 05:02 PM
Tell me something I dont know. :P

But seriously that vids got me thinking about other loops that she might have.

yeah well start getting down her normal B j.B j.C loop before you get into anything else, because you still don't know how to do it and its her staple combo... :(

Master Chibi
07-06-2007, 05:12 PM
that blues hard to read on default skin fyi

your avatar is stupid

fyi

Makoto Scrub
07-06-2007, 05:17 PM
that blues hard to read on default skin fyi
This may be so but I use this same color on another board... *coughsoulcaliburcough*

yeah well start getting down her normal B j.B j.C loop before you get into anything else, because you still don't know how to do it and its her staple combo... :(
So until I get it down you're repping how to use holy bubz properly?


your avatar is stupid

fyi
Just for that its staying for another month. xp

Saotome Kaneda
07-06-2007, 05:54 PM
STOP SPAMMING MY SHIT

I FUCKING TOLD YOU GUYS 3985801248543 TIMES





dammit

TempestFox
07-06-2007, 05:58 PM
I think Chibi will listen on the 3985801248544th time. Honestly. Sorry, SK, sir.

Getting back on track, is there a move list in english anywhere? I don't read moonspeak, and I'd like to know what does what, especially the Arcanas.

Another thing, Am I the only one that really hates the GG-like notations? Is qcf, dp and such that hard/uncool to use?

Saotome Kaneda
07-06-2007, 06:01 PM
all spam will end up in the old thread where I may or may not fuck with it to make you look stupid

it depends on if I feel like wasting time to make fun of you


just remember, it's much better than getting banned

Xyth
07-06-2007, 07:01 PM
Can any1 put a list together of what special properties you get from the different arcanas when you go into i think its called arcana mode? A+B+C like i know magic adds poison to your attacks and stone gives you super armor fire is +fire damage but i could never figure out like water or time or love not having access to the game

HeartNana
07-06-2007, 08:26 PM
The ones i know:
Poison - Adds poison to the opp if they get hit
Fire - Adds a fire shield that hits the opponent if you use D in the air
Love - You can use 236236D as many times as you want without it wasting meter.
Lightning - You get clashing added to your D in the air dashes
Plant - Life regen
Earth - Super armor, but can't block
Wind - 4 jumps and 3 air dashes
Water - Stops chip damage
Time - Stops the round clock
Steel - Increases your offense and your defense by a LOT.

And no idea about Gier, if anything (thanks XAQshinor for the help)

XAQshinor
07-06-2007, 08:45 PM
iirc niptra stops chip damage?(or watever the buble shield when blocking does)
and time arcana stops time.

Saotome Kaneda
07-06-2007, 08:58 PM
iirc niptra stops chip damage?(or watever the buble shield when blocking does)
and time arcana stops time.
Time only stops time if you Arcana Blaze. Unless you're talking about the round clock. =x

XAQshinor
07-06-2007, 09:07 PM
Time only stops time if you Arcana Blaze. Unless you're talking about the round clock. =x

yea i meant the round timer ;p

Akuma4Real
07-07-2007, 12:43 AM
GGs to people I played last night, I got owned real good. I'm just happy there is AH comp here :lovin:

Zaelar
07-07-2007, 12:48 AM
all spam will end up in the old thread where I may or may not fuck with it to make you look stupid

it depends on if I feel like wasting time to make fun of you


just remember, it's much better than getting banned

So I didn't see this before I made that post in the other thread :x

You better start moving all the spam then, not just the ones that are completely on topic and asking about the ps2 release~

Wait...does this mean its ok to spam in the other thread?

Back on topic...does anyone have any idea how wind konoha would do? I was thinking about some funky crossovers with the projectile and teleports that probably don't work.

HeartNana
07-07-2007, 12:51 AM
Konoha doesnt really need wind to make her good. She's got the speed department down just fine, and she wants to be NEAR the opponent with a GC6, not push them back.

But double air dash and triple jump and fast drop could make her even more versatile and hard to hit.

Its good to try, heck, ive seen the goofiest character/arcana combinations that seem to work, so i say give it a shot.

Just keep in mind how much easier Gier, Niptra, and Lang Gong are to use for Konoha. Especially Gier.

Sabin
07-07-2007, 02:05 AM
Okay, I realize that noone is gonna do the SBO qualifier list, so I did it myself :P

from http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/33739/1182405151/l50
Dekopon (Lilica)
Satochi (Kamui)
kaiten ou (Konoha)
hagoromo (Konoha)
mi (Kira)
JEO (Mei-Fang)
hurida (Lieselotte)
tono (Lilica)
kanaria (Lieselotte)
taro (Kira)
Reoth (Heart)
derubado (Heart)
nao@hiroshima no hito (Mei-Fang)
Pincho (Heart)
macchi (Kamui)
decoy (Mei-Fang)
kasumi LOVE (Kamui)
maro (Kamui)
komemaru (Konoha)
hano momiji (Heart)
himajin (Kira)
memma (Heart)
wozu ( wars ? ) (Lilica)
tanu (Saki)
kameten (Konoha)
hahun (Konoha)
nekojiru (Kira)
flan (Konoha)
White (Heart)
raboru (Kira)
kame (Kamui)
TOMO (Kamui)
kanta (Lilica)
henboku (Lieselotte)
kyamei (Mei-Fang)
gyaian (Heart)
motoyama (Saki)
tokihito ( tokinin ? ) (Konoha)
ryo (Maori)
aoi (Kamui)
takatsuki yayoi ( kon )
shiro aran ( haku aran ? ) (Saki)
ryouharu (Heart)
shakapo (Lilica)
kou (Kamui)
dai (Konoha)
mou dameda man (Mei-Fang)
ao (Lieselotte)
Xavier (Saki)
kurenai no buta (Kira)
andu (Konoha)
kouya (Kamui)
B.J (Mei-Fang)
NORIC (Mei-Fang)
doremifadeguchi (Konoha)
L-echo@KFC (Kamui)
Afghan (Konoha)
densetsu no otaku (Lieselotte)
mark (Heart)
shu ( mune ? ) (Heart)
UMA (Maori)
Sabin (Kamui)

Character Breakdown:
4 Lilica
10 Kamui
12 Konoha
6 Kira
7 Mei-Fang
5 Lieselotte
10 Heart
4 Saki
2 Maori
0 Yoriko (lol, trash)
0 Fiona (lol trash)

There's also two last chance qualifier spots, an 'm not sure if theres anything else..Anyone else find anything interesting/surprising about this list? Or any background on the players? We know about White and Otaku already..

woof
07-07-2007, 03:51 AM
looking forward to decoys and otakus matches :7)

AND OCOURSE any lilica play

Shinto
07-07-2007, 05:57 AM
Love - You can use 236236D as many times as you want without it wasting meter.

Is that the special with the 3 love balls?


Character Breakdown:
4 Lilica
10 Kamui
12 Konoha
6 Kira
7 Mei-Fang
5 Lieselotte
10 Heart
4 Saki
0 Yoriko (lol, trash)
0 Fiona (lol trash)



Haha 12 konoha, you forget Maori....which is 2....I guess she is not important

tianyuan
07-07-2007, 09:11 AM
We know about White and Otaku already..

White uses Gier Saki now:sweat:

Edit:
JEO got into top 8 in Samsho5 with Kusaregedo (SBO 03?).
Kurenai no Buta was the champion in Hokuto no Ken (SBO 06).

DS
07-07-2007, 09:26 AM
0 Yoriko (lol, trash)
0 Fiona (lol trash)



:rofl:

Wow. That's a shit ton of Arcana players. I may be tempted to buy the DVD when it comes out just for AHF footage.

Hyperhal
07-07-2007, 09:35 AM
Tut tut, the japanese don't know the power of top-tier it seems.

HeartNana
07-07-2007, 09:55 AM
Okay, I realize that noone is gonna do the SBO qualifier list, so I did it myself :P

from http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/33739/1182405151/l50
kyamei (Mei-Fang)
kou (Kamui)

There's also two last chance qualifier spots, an 'm not sure if theres anything else..Anyone else find anything interesting/surprising about this list? Or any background on the players? We know about White and Otaku already..
LONG HAIR GLASSES MAN AND GUY-GIRL FOR SBO 07!!!

Hyperhal
07-07-2007, 12:15 PM
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/7190/up0312oy5.jpg
Can you imagine what kind of rape this would bring if this were a selectable character?

someAzNdude
07-07-2007, 05:13 PM
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/7190/up0312oy5.jpg
Can you imagine what kind of rape this would bring if this were a selectable character?

HOLY CRAP!!! Yoriko in Liese's outfit??? She looks awesome! :wow:
I'd pick her up as a character with the quickness D:

Makoto Scrub
07-07-2007, 07:25 PM
Haha 12 konoha, you forget Maori....which is 2....I guess she is not important
What was that?!?!

GG's to Ken today. I feel like I'm stepping my game up with proper spacing and GC'ing.

Sabin
07-07-2007, 07:32 PM
Orochi tempest, you're not the only one that doesn't like the number notation. I hate it too. Ice been adjusting to it slowly but I can't get used to it yet still. So yeah you're not the only one.

Well on that board I got the sbo results from, niggas b talking shit lol.. I had my home girl in Tokyo post who won the American qualifier. Immediately below that, someone posted in kansai dialect that "I dislike Americans" lol. To which I said.. "if someone has a problem with me in Japan feel free to grudge/money match me, I just wanna play strong players"

Someone then apologized, then I went into a bit of detail about fubarduck and the American scene.. I outright said he was taking the last chance qualifiers for sure :sweat: after that some ppl said this is getting interesting..and there was some other otaku stuff that they posted that my home girl doesn't understand. So yeah, niggas be talking shit over there just like we do. HYPE!!!!!!

Of course I'm rooting for myself to win and my matches are what I wanna are the most

If for some reason the japs cheat on me and I lose (cause how else would I lose right??) :looney: then I want otaku to take it. That is all.

Tian thanks for the background history and thanks to shinto for the correction

someAzNdude
07-07-2007, 08:09 PM
What was that?!?!

GG's to Ken today. I feel like I'm stepping my game up with proper spacing and GC'ing.

Yeah ggs man, just stop dropping combos and you'll do better...and learn how to do her loop already, seeing a loopless Maori is just plain sad... :sad:

On a side note, trying to buffer Maori's older sister and the twins super is damn hard to do...gonna take me a little while to learn to get it down... D:

Shinto
07-07-2007, 11:07 PM
Well I got my game on today, late but still I got it in.Don't know who I was playing but GG to them, I was getting annoyed with LightningLies, that shit pissed me off....but then I played against Kamui and it was like I was getting beat by the sword.W.e I'm playing a chick that is a ninja dog....it's like I forgot how to play with heart :confused: I was expecting to see Art but he wasn't at CF.....oh yea Transformers Sucks Donkey Dicks....

Demon_Hyo
07-08-2007, 12:16 AM
I'm really new to this game, but it looks fun. Is there any info of it coming to ps2?

Master Chibi
07-08-2007, 12:21 AM
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

yes brandon, it's coming out on october 11.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH

TempestFox
07-08-2007, 01:00 AM
Chibi, take your meds.

poonage
07-08-2007, 01:01 AM
-snip-

Thanks for that update, time to talk some shit in Japanese. Get hype!!

Sabin
07-08-2007, 01:27 AM
I just saw what you said, damn, why'd you have to blow it up like that :rofl::looney: fuckin AH yo:sweat:

Sabin
07-08-2007, 01:43 AM
Oh and for all that are wondering what the Japanese said, they (as in a poster) basically called us a bunch of button mashers, being surprised that they even had a cabinet in America.

Fubar said hes taking that shit tho, so damn get hype :P

kenmastersX
07-08-2007, 02:29 AM
Ahahaha, American shit talk is too strong. :rofl:

Zaelar
07-08-2007, 04:27 AM
I wish I could help rep the 4 or so man usa team against the hundreds or so man jap team :x

Does anyone know offhand what jump/air dash options Konoha has after doing her teleport move that puts her in the air?
When air dashing/double jumping, do you only turn around at the start of a double jump to face your opponent?(as in you never turn from an air dash)
What happens if you do a crossover jump attack canceled into D+4(back, but towards your opponent).

ps2

The curse has followed us and it stepped it's grammar up!

someAzNdude
07-08-2007, 05:15 AM
Well I got my game on today, late but still I got it in.Don't know who I was playing but GG to them, I was getting annoyed with LightningLies, that shit pissed me off....but then I played against Kamui and it was like I was getting beat by the sword.W.e I'm playing a chick that is a ninja dog....it's like I forgot how to play with heart :confused: I was expecting to see Art but he wasn't at CF.....oh yea Transformers Sucks Donkey Dicks....

God damn you and your movies, you should have been there earlier that day playing games with me and MS :annoy:

Shinto
07-08-2007, 06:05 AM
God damn you and your movies, you should have been there earlier that day playing games with me and MS :annoy:

I feel the love oozing out of this sentence:looney: I'll be there next week I don't think nothing good comes out that week:confused: (runs off to see the release dates of movies)

Saotome Kaneda
07-08-2007, 06:22 AM
Oh and for all that are wondering what the Japanese said, they (as in a poster) basically called us a bunch of button mashers, being surprised that they even had a cabinet in America.

Fubar said hes taking that shit tho, so damn get hype :P
lol


I was regularly taking these dudes' money back in the normal AH days. =p

4649
07-08-2007, 06:51 AM
JESUS CHRIST this Maori player is insane!! I think I wanna pick up Maori when the game comes out now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aT2RZnFrdw

someAzNdude
07-08-2007, 09:33 AM
JESUS CHRIST this Maori player is insane!! I think I wanna pick up Maori when the game comes out now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aT2RZnFrdw

You have a good eye for quality :wink: loli bubz FTW!!!

Master Chibi
07-08-2007, 09:46 AM
shad up, both of you.

I cant find Fiona vids.

(yeah I changed my mind for now)

Shotokan Symphony
07-08-2007, 09:50 AM
posty?

someAzNdude
07-08-2007, 10:07 AM
shad up, both of you.

I cant find Fiona vids.

(yeah I changed my mind for now)

:rofl:
Yes you go back to the loli maid with the huge sword

Nastrodamus
07-08-2007, 11:43 AM
:rofl:
Yes you go back to the loli maid with the huge sword


dog... it's the only way to go my man..

haha japs trying to shit talk is so funny sometimes...

MC- let's do this yo... fiona POWA BITCHES YOU DON't want none..

btw any normals i should be using.. im thinking 5C for anti air purposes. 5B for long pokes... j b for air to air poking ( or air to ground) and also to fish for the ch.. any tips would be wonderful..

and a huge LOL to not seeing Yoriko or Fiona... you think all the charcters would be in sbo.. but i guess not...

someAzNdude
07-08-2007, 12:01 PM
dog... it's the only way to go my man..

haha japs trying to shit talk is so funny sometimes...

MC- let's do this yo... fiona POWA BITCHES YOU DON't want none..

btw any normals i should be using.. im thinking 5C for anti air purposes. 5B for long pokes... j b for air to air poking ( or air to ground) and also to fish for the ch.. any tips would be wonderful..

and a huge LOL to not seeing Yoriko or Fiona... you think all the charcters would be in sbo.. but i guess not...

Yeah you pretty much have it down for her normals, not much else cept use her 3C for air unblockable and charged 3C(with fire arcana) for grounded opponents on wake up, it got some nasty range...

woof
07-08-2007, 12:06 PM
btw any normals i should be using.. im thinking 5C for anti air purposes. 5B for long pokes... j b for air to air poking ( or air to ground) and also to fish for the ch.. any tips would be wonderful..
i would advise that you never attempt 5C if you have no homing gauge..
3C can be feasible sometimes but you really have to anticipate your opponents motion ahead of time due to the long startup it has

keep in mind while you have good tools for footsies you can get baited extremely easily considering how long almost all of your normals stay out [the only safe thing she really has is 5A]
i am not sure if she has any combos worth noting to bait bursts since doing something like 2A 2B HC6 2A doesnt connect despite the range, but you could try 63214A after 2AB or somethin

Nastrodamus
07-08-2007, 01:38 PM
i would advise that you never attempt 5C if you have no homing gauge..
3C can be feasible sometimes but you really have to anticipate your opponents motion ahead of time due to the long startup it has

keep in mind while you have good tools for footsies you can get baited extremely easily considering how long almost all of your normals stay out [the only safe thing she really has is 5A]
i am not sure if she has any combos worth noting to bait bursts since doing something like 2A 2B HC6 2A doesnt connect despite the range, but you could try 63214A after 2AB or somethin


haha i neva use 5c unless i do have homing gauge so no worries there.. i keep forgetting about 3C.. should use that more.... and yea i see that her shit stays out fairly long so it's must to be cautious...

Sabin
07-08-2007, 07:56 PM
damn these new maori combos are fuckin sick thanks to xaq for the find

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e2wD34MTJIo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cYkP3h6qFqk

First combo requires too much meter and positioning to be truly that practical imo. Well it looks like it anyway. If I'm wrong someone correct me as I'm not a maori player.
2nd one is actually practical (well looks like it) but maori's staple combo isnt easy...in addition to all that exra stuff....definetely takes some serious training mode time.

practice up kids :wink:

HeartNana
07-08-2007, 10:35 PM
If my opponent did a combo on me that lasted 38 seconds, i would be so sad.

Master Chibi
07-08-2007, 10:37 PM
I'd walk away from the machine and never freaking play the damn game again.

woof
07-08-2007, 10:41 PM
id laugh my ass off



this game is awesome and anyone whod do that to me in a match would be a real champ

Sabin
07-08-2007, 10:44 PM
I'd walk away from the machine and never freaking play the damn game again.

You say that now, but if Ken were to do that in CF against my Kamui, you'd be all cheering for him like a *** :rofl: dont get mad STEP IT UP, actually when was the last time you've played this game :P

Master Chibi
07-08-2007, 10:44 PM
get the fuck out of here

no combo should last 38 fucking seconds, that's just stupid.

You say that now, but if Ken were to do that in CF against my Kamui, you'd be all cheering for him like a *** dont get mad STEP IT UP, actually when was the last time you've played this game :P

Bro, if someone seriously did a combo on me for 38 seconds it would 100% kill any enjoyment I'd get out of the game. Fucking infinites in MvC2 and XvSF don't last that long, that really is stupid.

Sabin
07-08-2007, 10:51 PM
get the fuck out of here

no combo should last 38 fucking seconds, that's just stupid.



Bro, if someone seriously did a combo on me for 38 seconds it would 100% kill any enjoyment I'd get out of the game. Fucking infinites in MvC2 and XvSF don't last that long, that really is stupid.


#1 you have a burst
#2 something like that takes away from ppl complaining about top tier, they can just complain about this, but noone will ever put in the time to learn it anyway.
#3 dont get hit?
#4 they HAVE to activate to do that 100% loop and have a shitload of meter already, i agree the 2nd one is kinda too much though, but whatever, ppl were bitching about maori being trash anyway and she got hella upgraded and now ppl are bitching, lol.

why u mad son

Saotome Kaneda
07-08-2007, 10:57 PM
How about you bitches get hit by Kira Time Loop and see how that feels? You have more than enough opportunities to not get fucked up by shit like that.

Master Chibi
07-08-2007, 11:26 PM
man, arturo you and i just dont click on these things

you're gung ho and im like gun to my head, shit just don't sit easy with me.

i know there are ways around it, but it still just don't feel right.

:\

Sabin
07-08-2007, 11:37 PM
Oh new matches, well theyre old but noone linked to them in the previous thread. still good though!

http://www.youtube.com/user/ftnr18

seems to be from a 2on2 tourney

Zaelar
07-09-2007, 01:44 AM
If you only do one of the supers at the start, that first combo might be almost practical.

Demon_Hyo
07-09-2007, 03:01 AM
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

yes brandon, it's coming out on october 11.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH

lol you're always on edge. Thanks for the info though >.>

Sabin
07-09-2007, 05:09 AM
Famitsu's preview of the PS2 version - with in game screenshots

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/07/05/104,1183602209,74567,0,0.html

No pics of FULL, just regular, but it mentions full in the article.

Movies gallery = win though. :D

I think there might be a Arcana Heart TV show soon at this rate..

Zaelar
07-09-2007, 05:36 AM
Fiona isn't in the character select screen. Hopefully its just a konami code to unlock her.

tianyuan
07-09-2007, 05:36 AM
Sabin is hyped for this loopy game, woohoo. BUTTON MASH YOUR WAY TO SBO FINAL!!! SHOW EM BUTTON MASHER > LOOPY CHEATERS, ROFL!!!

Nick T.
07-09-2007, 05:39 AM
I liked Maori before full. Now she just looks seriously faster, which is always a plus.

someAzNdude
07-09-2007, 06:26 AM
You say that now, but if Ken were to do that in CF against my Kamui, you'd be all cheering for him like a *** :rofl: dont get mad STEP IT UP, actually when was the last time you've played this game :P

Time to get practicing =3=

DS
07-09-2007, 06:47 AM
damn these new maori combos are fuckin sick thanks to xaq for the find

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e2wD34MTJIo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cYkP3h6qFqk



Yeah, the first one is impossible to do. Too much meter involved should indicate that. And you have to throw out the super alone to start that up. I'm guessing that comboing into the super won't allow for a second one to hit.

Random123456789
07-09-2007, 06:53 AM
Yes! The article said that you can pick both reg. and FULL! and they are arcade perfect. Good.

XAQshinor
07-09-2007, 07:48 AM
Oh new matches, well theyre old but noone linked to them in the previous thread. still good though!

http://www.youtube.com/user/ftnr18

seems to be from a 2on2 tourney

he even has some secret mbac matches on there, good shit.

Zee Tee Bee
07-09-2007, 08:16 AM
why u mad son
damn, got baited. y'all should know better by now :rofl:.

and WTF. Sabin trashed his Arcadia av for a random AH banner! Thats whats up!

Superking
07-09-2007, 08:46 AM
You can mix and match O. and Full versions of the characters in the game apparently. I hope this is just me reading this wrong and me needing more sleep. :looney:

vapulus
07-09-2007, 09:01 AM
man, arturo you and i just dont click on these things

you're gung ho and im like gun to my head, shit just don't sit easy with me.

i know there are ways around it, but it still just don't feel right.

:\

I agree with you on this one, Chibi. Shit like that is what kills games for me. Probably the biggest reason I don't play MvC2 (That, and that fact that it's all lizard-brain-reaction) is because of stuff like that... but like you said, MvC2 infinites at least take less time.

Just because there are ways around it doesn't mean it should exist, even for hilarity reasons. Sure, the chances of this happening in real play may be kinda' low, but it should be 0.

Also, I finally realized what makes the game look so weird to me. Somebody else has probably said it in the infinite piles of pages this game has spawned, but I'm not reading all that. ;) It's the fact that there's no hit-pauses on air combos. You just float in this little arc. Your opponent makes a slight pause, but you drift straight through your strike. Weird, but not bad. =)

Sabin
07-09-2007, 12:49 PM
almost 1 1/2 hrs of arcana random character/arcana/low tier goodness at
http://game41.web.infoseek.co.jp/index.htm

click on movie link in the left frame its 2nd button, first 2 vids from the top.

It's funny that ppls were just bitching about Maori a second ago, and then these videos come out, lol. OMG Maori is top-tier (bubz anyway.) Remember, this is what yall wanted so I don't know why you're bitching. :looney:

Actually I dont remember anyone bitching about Fiona 100%'s either.

Oh, http://www.youtube.com/user/ftnr18 <-- i linked to him earlier, he uploaded a ton of new matches as of 1 hr ago as well

vapulus: http://www.youtube.com/user/arcanadvd

heh this game might not be for you then, cause this game gets ppl angry, has tons of bullshit, and has a random hitbox factor involved. a lot of those 100%'s or high damage combos are too hard to land though..

woof
07-09-2007, 01:52 PM
Actually I dont remember anyone bitching about Fiona 100%'s either.

its under 100 hits :rolleyes:

Fadedsun303
07-09-2007, 06:03 PM
heh this game might not be for you then, cause this game gets ppl angry, has tons of bullshit, and has a random hitbox factor involved. a lot of those 100%'s or high damage combos are too hard to land though..

I don't think I've played a fighting game that doesn't have tons of bullshit. :P

Random hitbox factor? What's up with that? Do hit boxes change or something?

Sabin
07-09-2007, 06:40 PM
no, you just get randomly crossed up in this game due to the massive hitboxes, your character quite often can and will hit from behind them..like me getting hit by a lilica 3C when i pressed 5B and it clashed :looney:

Crossups are really ambiguous because of stuff like this and yeah you can crossup someone while theyre in the corner. It's almost like corners didnt exist for those iad mixups, you think youre safe but youre not really

Akuma4Real
07-09-2007, 06:44 PM
I am guilty of abusing the cross ups! Heart can IAD over someone in the corner and do 2C, all of a sudden you are pushed out of the corner for Heart to land on the other side and she probably hit you cuz you didn't expect that and she crossed you up somehow. it's like whoamg that shouldn't have happened :rofl:

Nastrodamus
07-09-2007, 06:45 PM
yeah i notice that too.. i get crossed up... in da corner!!!.. but then i realized that Melty blood has this sort of thing too.. so hey cool wit me... what the...? what's this fiona 100% im hearing!!! problay not practical at all!!

and i don't mind these long combos... if he can do it... good shit!!!.. if he can't then rest assure ill be doing some revenge shit to get my shine back!!!

woof
07-09-2007, 06:48 PM
what the...? what's this fiona 100% im hearing!!! problay not practical at all!!
clean hit super with dragon powerups

Akuma4Real
07-09-2007, 06:54 PM
yeah i notice that too.. i get crossed up... in da corner!!!.. but then i realized that Melty blood has this sort of thing too.. so hey cool wit me... what the...? what's this fiona 100% im hearing!!! problay not practical at all!!

and i don't mind these long combos... if he can do it... good shit!!!.. if he can't then rest assure ill be doing some revenge shit to get my shine back!!!
Fiona 100% - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW8eyRx0lwk

It's at 2:50, pretty funny to see how Kamui spazzes after getting KO'd by it. It's just THAT devastating.

Sabin
07-09-2007, 06:55 PM
yeah i notice that too.. i get crossed up... in da corner!!!.. but then i realized that Melty blood has this sort of thing too.. so hey cool wit me... what the...? what's this fiona 100% im hearing!!! problay not practical at all!!

edit: heh poster above beat me to it

thats for regular not full btw. but i guess the fiona stuff still applies, since she got upgraded lol.

And I hate getting hit by long loops in this game.

Shinto
07-09-2007, 07:22 PM
And I hate getting hit by long loops in this game.

I do too, especially after activating arcana:sad:

Next time Ken applies the Maori Loop on me I'm tackling him.....

Strider2k2
07-09-2007, 07:23 PM
Arcana Heart getting a Japanese PS2 release???!!! Say word! I come back from vacation and haven't posted on SRK for weeks so I'm rather late hearing about the good news. Good shittt. Time to pick this game up again.

Nastrodamus
07-09-2007, 07:32 PM
heh i liked mvc2 for da long combos but the problems lies with infinites in shit.. at least with this i have some defensive options...but meh i see what your saying...

damn it imma try that steel shit then... for like two games and then problay back to fire again

someAzNdude
07-09-2007, 10:41 PM
I do too, especially after activating arcana:sad:

Next time Ken applies the Maori Loop on me I'm tackling him.....

Uh oh do I sense some hostility...? Nah must be my imagination :rofl:

Festival6667
07-09-2007, 11:03 PM
I'm so getting the ps2 port since I can't afford the board. After that it'll be time to see if my SPD skills convert well to KSD !

Hyperhal
07-09-2007, 11:35 PM
I do too, especially after activating arcana:sad:

Next time Ken applies the Maori Loop on me I'm tackling him.....

Shit, everybody start coming to CF strapped.

And long loops do suck. I remember first playing this game and getting hit by Kamui loop which made me wtf at how long it took. Now it doesn't bother me as much, because I know that I can do the same amount of damage with my hits.

Also, http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40-49-en-15-arcana%2Bheart-70-245h.html

woof
07-09-2007, 11:40 PM
lalala preorderin console release 4 months in advance

Saotome Kaneda
07-09-2007, 11:53 PM
I'm so getting the ps2 port since I can't afford the board. After that it'll be time to see if my SPD skills convert well to KSD !
KSD is like the easiest 360 ever. lol You can do it fbdu+button instead of 360 and it still comes out.

HeartNana
07-10-2007, 01:31 AM
Woof - Yeah i preordered it just now. Used a play-asia 5 dollar off coupon as well. Happy times. :D

Faight
07-10-2007, 03:16 AM
How much are jap PS2s? I meant to pick one up when I was over there but I forgot to in the excitement of getting my Wii (which I never really play any more...).

I guess I could get a modded PS2, but I don't really trust modchips.

Makoto Scrub
07-10-2007, 08:19 AM
So anyone want to discuss some vids? >_>


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yU_CbFvmjgU <--- lol @ 2:24-2:30

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h2nZLA4XDm4 <-- Pretty good Fiona but then gets shut down by bullshit.

Nastrodamus
07-10-2007, 08:58 AM
So anyone want to discuss some vids? >_>


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yU_CbFvmjgU <--- lol @ 2:24-2:30

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h2nZLA4XDm4 <-- Pretty good Fiona but then gets shut down by bullshit.

never seen that many supers in arcana like that.. other than the normal ones peeps use.. like that pulled out the counter super.. like what?

Akuma4Real
07-10-2007, 09:01 AM
So anyone want to discuss some vids? >_>


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yU_CbFvmjgU <--- lol @ 2:24-2:30

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h2nZLA4XDm4 <-- Pretty good Fiona but then gets shut down by bullshit.

Haha Yeah, Lilica player went crazy with time arcana that was cool. I like 3:14 of that video where Saki busts out a nice corner combo. I fear Fiona + Fire, it works so well for her.

someAzNdude
07-10-2007, 09:06 AM
lol at lilica spamming charged 6Cs with time arcana xD
boo at kamui's counter super finish D:

lcm
07-10-2007, 11:57 AM
gogo maori!

at least her loops aren't that simple and easy to execute despite how they look.

someAzNdude
07-10-2007, 01:59 PM
gogo maori!

at least her loops aren't that simple and easy to execute despite how they look.

You damn right! :annoy:

Shinto
07-10-2007, 02:31 PM
LIES....maybe not but W.e

Lil help, Konoha combo I want to do a second dp, what is the buttons I have to press?

I know its 2a 2b 2c dpA 6d ?????? is it
A) 5b dpA
B) 5a 5b dpA
C) Maori sucks....

lcm
07-10-2007, 02:47 PM
超必1、hc3で16K。
またまた最後コンボミスってます。
雷→縦姉→B→jc→JA→JB→jc→JA→JC→を
雷→縦姉→B→jc→JA→JA→JA→jc→JA→JC→に変えると若干ダメアップ します。

:wonder::wonder::wonder:

translation anyone?

Nastrodamus
07-10-2007, 10:50 PM
heh no idea...

anyone hitting cf this saturday..im only really entering melty at web2zone so.... im gonna hit cf to get my arcana on...so what's good...

HeartNana
07-10-2007, 11:29 PM
超必1、hc3で16K。
またまた最後コンボミスってます。
雷→縦姉→B→jc→JA→JB→jc→JA→JC→を
雷→縦姉→B→jc→JA→JA→JA→jc→JA→JC→に変えると若干ダメアップ します。

:wonder::wonder::wonder:

translation anyone?
Meh, it was what you saw in the vid.
雷 = Electricity
縦姉 = sister drop

Hyperhal
07-11-2007, 01:19 AM
So whos gonna preorder Arcana for me?

Anyways, I was thinking about the matches I had in NYC two weeks ago and I felt as though I had some advice these people should hear.

Zae: Stop trying to use your arcana move in the air. What makes it worse is that you don't do anything to cover yourself and that you were always above me or close to me when you did it. When you do that, it makes for an easy dp into BS, taking away a good chunk of your health. It's worse if your using bubbles, because with gier theres at least a chance that it'll hit me when i try to dp you. If you want to use your arcana moves, do it high in the air, or far away from me in the air.

Also, your block string is okay, but you love to get baited into grab super. I was seriously waiting for you to start the string so I could GC grab super. When you that it isn't working, go for something else. Do blockstring HC grab, at worst you'll whiff but you won't get vampire'd either.

Makoto: With you, you kept doing the same thing that zaelar was doing and trying to call out lesbians either above me or right next to me. This is a dp usage just waiting to happen, so make sure your conscious of where you're positioned before trying any of that. You see how I couldn't get Ken with that BS because he spaced the hell out of each other.

Zar: Your lise is annoying as hell and you don't even play the game. Seriously play so we can get experience against a lise player. Derrick is okay but I can easily beat him after having my first three arcana matches for the day.

Ken: You made the best decision by countering my Yoriko with bubz. You kept IADing with Saki which was perfect for what I was looking for, dp of course. There isn't much else I can say, because I'm not a Maori player.

Anyways, I was thinking of this one combo with fire yoriko:

2A2B1B1C>236B>HC>B>236D>B>236D>B>632146D>(land)>
(charge)3C>HC>AB>j.AB>236C>AB>236D>B>236D>B>632146D>f.dash >236C

For 2 meters and 3 homing gauges.

I'm not too sure on how much damage that'd do, and I can't remember the motions for Yoriko's crouching special normals, so those may be wrong as well. But yeah, think it'd work?

Akuma4Real
07-11-2007, 07:46 AM
Hey... I'm confused.. who is this bubz you guys are referring to? Whenever I read bubz, I think of Wolverine.. "bub". Then I'm like...maybe it's boobs? And if that's the case..Mei Fang???

Master Chibi
07-11-2007, 07:50 AM
Bubz = Maori.

Mecha bubz = Mei-fang

:P

Master Chibi
07-11-2007, 08:36 AM
Has anyone confirmed if that poison loop is an infinite or not? Outside of bursting out of the damn thing, pretty much everytime I've seen it landed the other guy just outright dies from it.

Makoto Scrub
07-11-2007, 09:35 AM
Has anyone confirmed if that poison loop is an infinite or not? Outside of bursting out of the damn thing, pretty much everytime I've seen it landed the other guy just outright dies from it.
It looks like the loop continues as long as Maori has homing meter.

Master Chibi
07-11-2007, 09:44 AM
shit you're right, my bad~

Akuma4Real
07-11-2007, 11:57 AM
Bubz = Maori.

Mecha bubz = Mei-fang

:P

Thanks for the clarification, lol.

Anyone using mecha bubz? I picked her up a little while ago and I think she may actually be my better character. Gotta watch more videos to get her HC combos more, some of them seem character specific..

Oh, and I think it would be a good idea to post BnBs for each character on the first page. That should be helpful.

woof
07-11-2007, 02:37 PM
hey

i might be heading up to NY from the 6th to the 8th of august
if any you cats wanna play/wanna babysit lil woofy/somethin then let me know

Master Chibi
07-11-2007, 02:41 PM
:O!

I'm positive having a gathering at Vic's is out of the question, I'll say that much. It's in the begining of the week anyway, which don't look so good for getting people together anyway.

I'll cut of work early to hang out though, for sure.

WOOOFYCAKES

:3

TempestFox
07-11-2007, 02:47 PM
There must be a AH wiki by now. Right? Someone? Anyone?

woof
07-11-2007, 02:56 PM
Oh, and I think it would be a good idea to post BnBs for each character on the first page. That should be helpful.
or

http://guardcrush.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=241


There must be a AH wiki by now. Right? Someone? Anyone?
pretty sure superking had one in the works .. i still have to finish coloring that banner for him lol [bug me on AIM when you get the chance dude i got questions!]

I'm positive having a gathering at Vic's is out of the question, I'll say that much. It's in the begining of the week anyway, which don't look so good for getting people together anyway.
laaaaaaame

oh well ill think of somethin i guess

Saotome Kaneda
07-11-2007, 03:30 PM
Superking(Kyoji) and I are working on the wiki. I'm pretty much translating as much as I can out of the AH Bible framedata and general data/systems-wise. All we need is someone willing to help with layout as I fucking suck at page coding nowadays and IDK what Kyoji's plotting right now.





EDIT: woof needs to come to NYC after evo so I can beast on him too

woof
07-11-2007, 04:14 PM
EDIT: woof needs to come to NYC after evo so I can beast on him too
i dont plan on going outside of the 6th-8th because school starts on the 10th

kenmastersX
07-11-2007, 04:22 PM
Someone babysit Eric for me, I can't be there to hold his hand this time. :p

Damn megaman fanboys. Me included. Sad I can't go, but I want to go to Evo.

Sabin
07-11-2007, 05:57 PM
Why are you coming to NY woof?

Oh and about the wiki thing I'm sure ill be in a better mode to contribute as soon as I get to Japan. Ill actually be able to provide more info outside my limited experience (competition wise). I didn't feel like doing anything before because there was no console port..but now that there will be pol playing in the future I'm a little more motivated.

Btw I haven't played this game since rob left except for a few times against the cpu really. There's really no point in playing anyone in cf right now unless someone calls me out to practice specifically. I'm kinda burnt out on Chinatown at the moment and I don't feel like spending money to play the cpu. If someone wants to set up a session let me know though. Ken, ill probably throw down a 20 bill at some point if you don't have funds to just come to play me for a day or so hardcore just so I can get some practice to get to the level that I was at when rob was here. Probably within the last week of the month or something. At this point you're the only one sharp enough and has put enough of a time investment in the game to make me not play on autopilot. I'd extend the same offer to Andre but he seems to have lost his fire for the game...sad.

Saotome Kaneda
07-11-2007, 06:02 PM
BREAKING NEWS

SK will NOT be going to Evo. I got fucked royally by one of our inbound people getting routed to a different command even though we need him more. So I'll be going to NYC after Sept. :tdown:

kenmastersX
07-11-2007, 06:04 PM
Why are you coming to NY woof?

http://blogs.capcomusa.com/blogs/news.php/2007/07/09/mega_man_autograph_session_with_keiji_in

Eric is a really retarded Megaman fanboy, and since he can't go to Evo due to missing too much school, he'll be doing this instead.

woof
07-11-2007, 06:15 PM
:7) .......

Sabin
07-11-2007, 06:21 PM
Stone I see lol. Are u Eric's father? Lol it seems like it sometimes.

Kaneda that sucks. There's also a chance I might not make it to evo for obvious reasons. Hopefully I can pull through and make it though as ill be playing all games and I don't want all that beast training to go to waste.

Are you coming to NY before or after the console release? If you're coming before it and you're still buying the board being it with your supergun to NY if you actually feel like carrying a pcb on the plane lol, so you can get smashed in some private sessions. Or do you prefer we give money to cf for the rapings? And yeah I'm still butthurt from my tekken noob rapings you gave me 1 and a half yrs ago so yeah..
Sorry for the multiple posts blackberry actin up.

woof
07-11-2007, 06:26 PM
Stone I see lol. Are u Eric's father? Lol it seems like it sometimes.

thats sad [and you dont want to meet my father]

dudes just my ride for whatever game shit goes down, although i think its a little weird that hes trying to speak for me now :lol:

Akuma4Real
07-11-2007, 07:04 PM
or

http://guardcrush.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=241

I know, but I didn't find it as helpful as the info I was getting on srk in the old thread. Updated combos is more like what I'm talking about. We know a lot more about AH now.

kenmastersX
07-11-2007, 07:13 PM
Stone I see lol. Are u Eric's father? Lol it seems like it sometimes.

He just owes me his sister's number. Bitch took it away from my phone! :annoy:

Makoto Scrub
07-11-2007, 07:25 PM
He just owes me his sister's number. Bitch took it away from my phone! :annoy:
Baited?

Hyperhal
07-11-2007, 07:47 PM
My birthday is on the 4th, so I'm pretty sure I can go up to NYC around that time to meet woof.

Munnymatchesssssss. :x

Master Chibi
07-11-2007, 07:56 PM
From now on we're going to call them:

Papa Stone

and

Kid Woof~

Hyperhal
07-11-2007, 08:07 PM
From now on we're going to call them:

Papa Stone

and

Kid Woof~

Why are we using Stone's real name and Eric's fake name again?

woof
07-11-2007, 08:23 PM
My birthday is on the 4th, so I'm pretty sure I can go up to NYC around that time to meet woof.

Munnymatchesssssss. :x
well have fun tryin to find a place to stay because i dont have extra room

Master Chibi
07-11-2007, 08:25 PM
Why are we using Stone's real name and Eric's fake name again?

It sounds better that way.

kenmastersX
07-11-2007, 08:26 PM
Man, I am fiending for Arcana. Too bad I'm broke. :(

HeartNana
07-11-2007, 08:36 PM
If we're gonna get combo's on the front page, then i need people to submit them or post