The Official T8 Results Thread

[DaDesiCanadian]

Why hasn't this been made yet? Possibly because there aren't any results yet....

Anyway, post that shit.

From Nagata, after first day:

As for results, I'll be updating from York U today:
- Marvel Low Tier has drew a solid 26 players. 8 players in winners (JWong, Gatsby, Gerjay, Mihan, Jiggabry, Lawrence, ???, VDO). They're in 9th place matches in Losers.
- Alpha 2 I believe is down to top 8.
- I don't have the brackets for the team tourney. From what I understand it drew 18 teams for 3rd Strike, 10 for CvS2, 10 for GG:AC, 8 for Marvel. The usual suspects are still in their respective games.

[C Royd]

$5 on Adam B > * in 3s
$5 on Matt > * in Jitz except Adam B
$5 on JS master > * in every game except JWONG
$5 on Noodle man vs Noodleman in mvc2

[mythicExile]

umm from what i can remember:
3s teams who were eliminated:
dota
samir
rest still playing, had to leave at 11
cvs2:
we havent even finished first round
marvel:
same as cvs2

[Quan]

VDO is so fuckin beastly. If Ryan wasn't so GDLK we would of lost that set.

[sealhunta]

shit was so un organized, they tried doing the low tier tourney on the cabinents but there were no organizers watching and directing. By the time they got it organized and shit where they had a specific TV for each marvel thing. it was like 9 something and they closed at 11. What time will marvel start tommrorow, i dont want to wake up early. Yo but it was pretty nice still, i never seen so many arcade sticks lying around. Some problems i seen were that ppl had to wait to play becuz they let ppl borrow their sticks and it delayed shit. Other times, some one was in one tournament and his team was waiting for him so they could play in another game.

i seen a man with a video camera recording some marvel stuff. i recorded some stuff he wasnt. i want to go to bed but ill upload one thing now.

more ppl will be comming saturday i hope that shit is more organized.

[DaDesiCanadian]

Other times, some one was in one tournament and his team was waiting for him so they could play in another game.


more ppl will be comming saturday i hope that shit is more organized.

Until they invent cloning or time travel, you realize this will be and has been an unavoidable problem in every tournament ever, including evo...

[AlterGenesis]

I don't know. I thought it was really jacked on the GGAC side. There are only 10 teams, while starting late was unavoidable a 10-team tournament could have easily finished before the night was done. Especially because of the super-bye that two teams got.

A lot of us just ended up sitting there doing nothing, waiting for people to show-up and play for over an extended period of time. Nobody really told us what was going on, so we had to figure it out for ourselves. It was just a bad setup overall. (Seeing as this is SRK, I'll leave myself open as flamebait.)

Nice meeting some new people though.

[Yucorp]

i had fun today playing AC with a bunch of new people. I thought the team tourney would be done by the day one but i guess we will have to continue it tomorrow morning. Unfortunately, i can't make it tomorrow so whoever goes to the team tourney good luck.

[sealhunta]

does anyone know the new official times for saturday,

[ZeroFalcon]

I don't know. I thought it was really jacked on the GGAC side. There are only 10 teams, while starting late was unavoidable a 10-team tournament could have easily finished before the night was done. Especially because of the super-bye that two teams got.

A lot of us just ended up sitting there doing nothing, waiting for people to show-up and play for over an extended period of time. Nobody really told us what was going on, so we had to figure it out for ourselves. It was just a bad setup overall. (Seeing as this is SRK, I'll leave myself open as flamebait.)

Nice meeting some new people though.

unfortunately we've gotten used to waiting for people who play the capcom games during tournaments, T7 the GG tourney lasted from 6pm to 4am because of waiting for 1 person and there were like less than 10 teams. we had like a 3 hour pause in the middle =(
however some teams will be fucked tomorrow because of some team members not being able to attend (like our team's ky T^T ) So for teams that end up in this situation, whats gonna happen? we didnt expect the team tourney to go onto saturday. Or are we just out of luck and hafta be scammed? :confused:
How bout a team member uses the missing member's character? :clap:

[JS Master]

shit was so un organized, they tried doing the low tier tourney on the cabinents but there were no organizers watching and directing. By the time they got it organized and shit where they had a specific TV for each marvel thing. it was like 9 something and they closed at 11. What time will marvel start tommrorow, i dont want to wake up early. Yo but it was pretty nice still, i never seen so many arcade sticks lying around. Some problems i seen were that ppl had to wait to play becuz they let ppl borrow their sticks and it delayed shit. Other times, some one was in one tournament and his team was waiting for him so they could play in another game.

i seen a man with a video camera recording some marvel stuff. i recorded some stuff he wasnt. i want to go to bed but ill upload one thing now.

more ppl will be comming saturday i hope that shit is more organized.

Ok by reading this post, I know you haven't been to much large tournies.
1st of all, the one directing does not have to watch any matches. He just tells ppl who to play and waits for the results. Its not his fault players decide to walk away from a match, ignore a call or go eat without telling him. If you think I'm bsing you, go to evo and watch how they direct. Its funny cuz the one running marvel teams/low tier was standing in the same place for the whole day. He has to tell ppl what to do for marvel and take site fee registration so he can't be running around the marvel games watching every detail.

2nd, you said how late the tournies started but you forgot to mention the technical difficulties that pretty much halted bracket progression for a good hour+

3rd. All games resume at 11, Justin has already said this many times. If you don't like waking up that early, tough shit.
I won't really comment on the rest of the things you posted seeing how those delays are normal at large tournies.

[AlterGenesis]

unfortunately we've gotten used to waiting for people who play the capcom games during tournaments, T7 the GG tourney lasted from 6pm to 4am because of waiting for 1 person and there were like less than 10 teams. we had like a 3 hour pause in the middle =(
however some teams will be fucked tomorrow because of some team members not being able to attend (like our team's ky T^T ) So for teams that end up in this situation, whats gonna happen? we didnt expect the team tourney to go onto saturday. Or are we just out of luck and hafta be scammed? :confused:
How bout a team member uses the missing member's character? :clap:

I don't know. A lot of us will end up with troubles getting there early tomorrow. GO buses don't run on weekends, and a lot of people say "Too fucking bad" cause they think everyone has some sort of magical answer for this tournament. Yes, tough luck, indeed.

EDIT: JS, it was your team that stalled the AC tournament, you know. =p

[Quan]

shit was so un organized, they tried doing the low tier tourney on the cabinents but there were no organizers watching and directing. By the time they got it organized and shit where they had a specific TV for each marvel thing. it was like 9 something and they closed at 11. What time will marvel start tommrorow, i dont want to wake up early. Yo but it was pretty nice still, i never seen so many arcade sticks lying around. Some problems i seen were that ppl had to wait to play becuz they let ppl borrow their sticks and it delayed shit. Other times, some one was in one tournament and his team was waiting for him so they could play in another game.

i seen a man with a video camera recording some marvel stuff. i recorded some stuff he wasnt. i want to go to bed but ill upload one thing now.

more ppl will be comming saturday i hope that shit is more organized.

Is this your first major? I mean, that's some major criticism to give to the guys running (G3nn, Dark Dragon, Nagata etc.) it. Your prorably some noob, and this is your first big tourny so i won't go in depth, but unless your willing to step in and help get things running then you should really lay off on comments of organization. I'm pretty sure all the directors are doing there best to get shit together.

If you don't want to wake up early then too bad. If everyone else is doing it then tough luck.

Oh ya i'm not trying to sound like an SRK celbrity.

[YellowS4]

Pui, put me on the team. I told you earlier!

[sealhunta]

yeah that was my first major i been too, i thought there would be like security guards everywhere and seating arrangements and tons of space.

and yo why u geting so offened, thats only constructive critism and i'm not lke being serious. obvioulys T8 is amazing and the best thing in canada. And i just heard some random person say 11 o lock so i didnt know if it was official or not, thats why i was asking


soem matches from t8

Low tier tourney, early round

http://www.dailymotion.com/fatty_Acid/video/x2j8vp_t8-low-tier-tourney-1
(spiderman/guile/iceman spiderman/juggz/capcom) vs. 2W (charlie/chun-li/guile)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2j92g_t8-low-tier-tourney-2
(jill/spiderman/tbone gief/collosus/silversam) vs. 2W (ryu/ken/collosus)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2j96u_low-tier-tourney-3
2W (charlie/chun-li/guile) vs. (rubyheart/bbhood/capcom rb/ryu/tron)

[JS Master]

yeah that was my first major i been too, i thought there would be like security guards everywhere and seating arrangements and tons of space.

and yo why u geting so offened, thats only constructive critism and i doubt the organizers of the even would even care. obvioulys T8 is amazing and the best thing in canada.

Actually I do care and its not constructive critsim. From what I can see you don't play anything...If it was so bad, why didn't you offer to lend us your services? If you guys think things aren't running smooth, you could opt to lend a helping hand right? Look at ppl like Annie and Jim Kim. They wern't directing anything but they were more help than alot of ppl.
Oh yeah This is DarkDragon.
I'm currently sleeping in Js master's mom's room. :looney: time to sleep.

[X-Sapphire]

I don't know. I thought it was really jacked on the GGAC side. There are only 10 teams, while starting late was unavoidable a 10-team tournament could have easily finished before the night was done. Especially because of the super-bye that two teams got.

Like I explained earlier, it's 10 teams in a 16 man bracket, so no matter how you set the brackets, 2 teams will get a super-bye. And a super-bye isn't going to make things go any faster if some of the players are constantly being called over to 5 different other games they registered for.


A lot of us just ended up sitting there doing nothing, waiting for people to show-up and play for over an extended period of time. Nobody really told us what was going on, so we had to figure it out for ourselves. It was just a bad setup overall. (Seeing as this is SRK, I'll leave myself open as flamebait.)

This is kinda asking for too much. You want me to run it as fast as possible, but when there are problems/delays, you want me to take the time to explain what's going on to every single person? I left the brackets on the tv whenever I had to go play my matches on other games, you guys are free to check out what's happening, and maybe even help in getting the next match ready. If people are ready I get them to play their game, if they are busy with other games then shit we can't really do anything but wait. That's just how it works so don't expect things to go so smoothly at a national tournament. I also don't really remember you asking me what's up with the delays other people did and I told them we're waiting for teams that are busy with other games.

This is T8, a national tournament, with people competing in over 10 different fighting games, and yes there are many people who compete in multiple fighting games, which they cannot possibly play all at once as a human, so yes expect delays.

[Angel of Rage]

yeah that was my first major i been too, i thought there would be like security guards everywhere and seating arrangements and tons of space.

and yo why u geting so offened, thats only constructive critism and i'm not lke being serious. obvioulys T8 is amazing and the best thing in canada. And i just heard some random person say 11 o lock so i didnt know if it was official or not, thats why i was asking


I uploaded a match vid from T8

Low tier tourney, early round

http://www.dailymotion.com/fatty_Acid/video/x2j8vp_t8-low-tier-tourney-1

I know one of the players is Parerick i dont know who the other person is

i got taped while playing so crappy =(

[Mihai]

**THIS IS NOT GEESE/MIHAI/WHATEVER THE HELL THE USERNAME IS**

**SRK name is LimeKen, to lazy to log out and in.

Why was the fucking tournament delayed so long? I won't be there 'til tomorrow so I have no right to complain, but where did the problem lie?

[Mihai]

Oh, and if anyones interested, I'm taking bets on Samir to fuck shit up, any takers to front another player?

Oh, and can someone post real results of the teams tournament so far? Who eliminated who and whatever else.

**LimeKen

[Clarity&Confucius]

Ok by reading this post, I know you haven't been to much large tournies.
1st of all, the one directing does not have to watch any matches. He just tells ppl who to play and waits for the results. Its not his fault players decide to walk away from a match, ignore a call or go eat without telling him. If you think I'm bsing you, go to evo and watch how they direct. Its funny cuz the one running marvel teams/low tier was standing in the same place for the whole day. He has to tell ppl what to do for marvel and take site fee registration so he can't be running around the marvel games watching every detail.

2nd, you said how late the tournies started but you forgot to mention the technical difficulties that pretty much halted bracket progression for a good hour+

3rd. All games resume at 11, Justin has already said this many times. If you don't like waking up that early, tough shit.
I won't really comment on the rest of the things you posted seeing how those delays are normal at large tournies.

It is the fact that the GGAC community had to suffer overall, several players are missing team mates, some even 2!!!!!!!!! but overall the whole community time was wasted. If someone who has entered the tournament not done in their other tournament then give them their money back and say sorry you cant play cause your not fucking there, gl in the tournament you think is more important. Instead of 3 people getting a fing refund, 3-7 people will be DQ'ed, sometimes even whole teams, with only getting playing at max 1-2 matches in the tournament.

To your second point, there were casuals started with both tv's at GGAC at 830, it took a full hour, without any technical difficulties (the technical difficulties that occured at 8pm ended in 30 minutes not an hour and thirty minutes). A 9 team tournament would of been completed way before then, period. The end fact and point is that the game was advertised for today and could of gotten done today.

Another point is that the reschedule day didnt have to be the next day at 11am! Some people commute 2:00:00-2:30:00 by bus to get to the york cove. Leaving there at 1130pm getting home at 130am having to leave your house at930am not to mention the time u need to wake up to eat and get ready to leave. I don't see why it couldnt be hold sunday, because sunday has nothing at all scheduled and you wouldnt have a scrubby final cause no1 slept for 2-3 tournament players that thought another tournament was more important.

The GGAC community suffered period, end point. F evo rules, the tournament is held in a university, lets not have stupid unbending rules that fuck over tournament players. All i have to say if there is two teams that have missing players 1-2 should be paired against each other and pair full teams against full teams until it cant be helped.

T8= Seniority and STS FTL! The GG community is not pleased with the faculty of T8. < LG ---> <3 FTW

[Clarity&Confucius]

MAIN SCHEDULE:
Friday:
3:00pm: Registration starts for all tournaments
7:00pm: Marvel vs Capcom 2 Low Tier Tournament begins
7:00pm: The Ratio 4 Challenge begins
7:00pm: Capcom vs SNK 1 begins
7:00pm: Street Fighter Alpha 2 begins
8:00pm: Super Smash Brothers Melee Team Tournament begins (2 player teams)
8:00pm: Tekken 5 Team Tournament begins (3 player teams)
8:00pm: CvS2 Team Tournament begins (Player per Ratio rule in effect)
8:00pm: MvC2 Team Tournament begins (3 player teams)
8:00pm: 3S Team Tournament begins (SBO rules in effect - No duplicate characters)
8:00pm: Guilty Gear Accent Core Team Tournament begins (3 player teams)

Saturday
11:00am: Registration resumes for all games
1:00pm: Registration ends for Super Smash Brothers Melee, Tekken Tag Tournament, Hokuto No Ken, Big Bang Beat
2:00pm - Super Smash Brothers Melee begins
2:00pm - Tekken Tag Tournament begins
2:00pm - Hokuto No Ken begins
2:00pm - Big Bang Beat begins
2:00pm - Registration ends for Capcom vs SNK 2, Guilty Gear Accent Core, X-Men vs Street Fighter, Soul Calibur 3
3:00pm - Capcom vs SNK 2 begins
3:00pm - Guilty Gear Accent Core begins
3:00pm - X-Men vs Street Fighter (Macro Tournament) begins
3:00pm - Soul Calibur 3 begins
3:00pm - Registration ends for Marvel vs Capcom 2, Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike, Melty Blood: Act Cadenza
4:00pm - Marvel vs Capcom 2 begins
4:00pm - Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike begins
4:00pm - Melty Blood: Act Cadenza begins
4:00pm - Registration ends for Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Super Street Fighter II Turbo
5:00pm - Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection begins
5:00pm - Street Fighter Alpha 3 begins
5:00pm - Super Street Fighter II Turbo begins
5:00pm - X-Men vs Street Fighter (Non Macro) begins

Sunday
As is traditionally the case, the Sunday will be used as a carry over day should any tournaments not be able to finish on Saturday night. Please note that the venue is rented through closing on Sunday so all cabinets will be free to play on and whatever free TV's (as long as there is no tournament requirement) are free for people to play on as well. Basically it's a giant casual day with free games for everyone.

[ZeroFalcon]

i agree with your point about sunday but it'd depend on how many people are willing to commute to york for 3 days and the amount of tvs still left over since not much are expected to happen on sunday. And sundays are usually bad days for people coz of work/school/whatever on monday.
however, i'd hafta say DQing people just because they play multiple games would waste the time of people coming from other countries/provinces. Things like that can't be helped.
If tomorrow's team tourney showup is amazingly stupid, i'd suggest rescheduling to sunday if more people are able to make it

we cant blame ppl for tonite tho, im sure nobody expected an arcade to close at 11pm = =

[Clarity&Confucius]

Actually I do care and its not constructive critsim. From what I can see you don't play anything...If it was so bad, why didn't you offer to lend us your services? If you guys think things aren't running smooth, you could opt to lend a helping hand right? Look at ppl like Annie and Jim Kim. They wern't directing anything but they were more help than alot of ppl.
Oh yeah This is DarkDragon.
I'm currently sleeping in Js master's mom's room. :looney: time to sleep.

("X-Sapphire:I left the brackets on the tv whenever I had to go play my matches on other games, you guys are free to check out what's happening, and maybe even help in getting the next match ready.")

Leaving brackets ontop of a TV is much different then taking a small moment to ask someone like k2, pui, myself, moon, rae, rlt (sorry i forget ur name though i did meet u 2day) and many other people that were their waiting like... wtf where is nazir. BTW when we were like where the f is nazir for that hour of casuals when the tv's were set up, i went to check everything out twice (since not shit was going on) and if your team is playing in a tournament and your not needed at that moment u should be at the machine for GG. Obviously a whole team all cant be busy Right At That Moment, playing simultaneously, thats 3 fing people. make them go 1 at a time and call them over if it comes down to it but delay of an hour and a break of 1 and a half or 2 hours after a few matches is ridiculous. The video game community is here to help run things if you need it, but you need to say something to us, if you need more then 1 bracket director, then ASK, shit appoint 2 or 3, cause any tournament with 16 people can certainly have avialable a large amount of people that will help run things if things need to be ran.

[Clarity&Confucius]

"If tomorrow's team tourney showup is amazingly stupid, i'd suggest rescheduling to sunday if more people are able to make it"

Indeed, Indeed, i second the motion! :D Come on justin, NAGA, consider and accept it.

[Clarity&Confucius]

shit was so un organized, they tried doing the low tier tourney on the cabinents but there were no organizers watching and directing. By the time they got it organized and shit where they had a specific TV for each marvel thing. it was like 9 something and they closed at 11. What time will marvel start tommrorow, i dont want to wake up early. Yo but it was pretty nice still, i never seen so many arcade sticks lying around. Some problems i seen were that ppl had to wait to play becuz they let ppl borrow their sticks and it delayed shit. Other times, some one was in one tournament and his team was waiting for him so they could play in another game.

i seen a man with a video camera recording some marvel stuff. i recorded some stuff he wasnt. i want to go to bed but ill upload one thing now.

more ppl will be comming saturday i hope that shit is more organized.


Word. I signed up for a tournament and got 5 hours of naruto filler, an episode full of talking and no action.

[AlterGenesis]

Like I explained earlier, it's 10 teams in a 16 man bracket, so no matter how you set the brackets, 2 teams will get a super-bye. And a super-bye isn't going to make things go any faster if some of the players are constantly being called over to 5 different other games they registered for.



This is kinda asking for too much. You want me to run it as fast as possible, but when there are problems/delays, you want me to take the time to explain what's going on to every single person? I left the brackets on the tv whenever I had to go play my matches on other games, you guys are free to check out what's happening, and maybe even help in getting the next match ready. If people are ready I get them to play their game, if they are busy with other games then shit we can't really do anything but wait. That's just how it works so don't expect things to go so smoothly at a national tournament. I also don't really remember you asking me what's up with the delays other people did and I told them we're waiting for teams that are busy with other games.

This is T8, a national tournament, with people competing in over 10 different fighting games, and yes there are many people who compete in multiple fighting games, which they cannot possibly play all at once as a human, so yes expect delays.

You point is no good. A national tournament should be run as smoothly as possible. I don't remember you asking for help, I've offered help on several occasions way before T8 started, but you guys brushed me off cause I'm just a newbie as many say. We already figured out JS's team was slowing the tournament down (Playing Marvel and the like) and its not like I could ask you, you were rarely there anyway.

This isn't a personal shot. There are things you need to know from your community if you expect people not to be disappointed.

[X-Sapphire]

Kellfire did continue the brackets while I had to play my matches in other games. And it still didn't finish so stop trying to blame it on me, it's not like me leaving delayed things, because Kellfire is such an awesome dude that out of the 30 people who were standing around GG, he had the brains to figure out 1 person isn't enough to host it smoothly and he continued the brackets for me. If you want it to go faster, HELP OUT. Actions speak louder than words. Everyone knows it didn't finish because of people who had to play their matches in other games and that can't be helped.

And then there's the funny people who start up a casual game while I'm setting up the next match, then when I tell them to quit the match so we can start the tournament match they whine about me ruining their casual match. They complain about the tournament taking too long and then do things to delay it even further. Why are people so contradictory? I don't know, but if anyone thinks they can do a better job, then feel free to run the singles tournament for GGAC on Saturday. :wink:

[Mihai]

Lets Go, Place Bets, I Need Money.

[sealhunta]

some of u are saying "well why didnt u help out"

i would have been honoured to help out, but no one asked me to do anyhting. not only that, but i seen like 3 ppl (the ones wearing those black shirts with text on them) that looked like they were in charge or had some sort of authority. I didn't know who was in charge of what events to go ask to see if they wanted anything or what was next. And i am most definately not going to go up to random ppl i dont know and tell them "okay guys, lets create some space and everyone form a line and when its ur turn come up and play" Ppl would look at me like "who the fuck are u"

whats funny is they want to start playing at 11 in the mourning. i hope they have enough time to get rid of the kinks in the system. I hope everything turns out great

[Gerjay_2001]

I think we need a new results thread, because I don't see any results here.

Don't complain about the running of the tournament. If you wanna help, ask and see what can be done. Don't complain after the fact or during the tourney, just help out. If you see a problem, or you know who/what is stalling the tournaments, just go out and fix it. Nothing is stopping anybody from helping out. There's one director per game, and as we know with every major, unless you can instantly spot a needle in a haystack there's no way matches will go smoothly. Its not that hard :(

[Baofu]

Blah, fucking roommates are denying me sleep.

But yeah, I dunno if any of you saw that shit, but I was the guy that put the last nail in Samir's coffin in the team setup.

Bet it.

Other people saw me; hell, we even checked the sticks and the settings JUST to make sure.

But thats beside the point. See, now I'm not gonna brag and say I can beast him, because the fact of the matter is, I upset him and I was the last guy expected to win.

The memory of the his hand slamming the stick after parrying and punishing his crossup still burns freshly in my head.

Well, Mihai, any takers for that bet of yours?

I may never be able to pull that shit off again..

See you in day 2.

[Gerjay_2001]

Who Are You?!

[Mihai]

This isn't Mihai, I'm the scrub staying with him for the week.

I want to place fucking bets, I want money motherfuckers. My money is on Samir, I wanna see him fuck up Wong, do it!

Any takers on that action?

[DaDesiCanadian]

Hamstar 2: Son of Hamstar.

[Mihai]

Blow me: You.

[Nagata Lock II]

Morning...

- We can't use the carry over day for Team Tournaments. A combination of lack of facilities and having no real guarantee that the majority of teammates will be there on a 3rd day unless they were in the final 8 or so of their singles tournament doesn't alow for it. Players were instructed to arrive at 11:00am today (Saturday) as that's the earliest we can get into the venue on an already limited time budget and there's no singles games booked until 1:00pm so we have breathing room to work with.

- The directors appreciate any and all help that the players are willing to lend us. We don't hold people responsible should they criticize organization. The nature of the beast says players will play casual between matches if someone isn't right there. The venue is such that finding one person amidst just under 200 people is going to take time. If anything, the biggest favour any director can ask for is to have a runner to get the players for their next match. When Nathan was swamped (I can't speak highly enough of Nathan's work yesterday, just ridiculous) I handled runner duties on Marvel low tier and did my best to keep it flowing well. Little things add up.

- Concerning the Guilty Gear situation. I understand there were long hold ups for that game. I know sometimes the GG scene feels they get fucked over by the SF scene. I want the players to know that I am sorry if you were going through what seems to have amounted to an hour of non tournament time. Anyone can tell you I was running around like a madman supervising and handling a lot of the typical issues. If someone had come to me, I would have been happy to settle that up for you. There will be times where I may not seem approachable because I'm very busy but trust me in saying I do care about all my players issues and will do what I can to make sure you enjoy yourself as much as possible.

As for results, I'll be updating from York U today:
- Marvel Low Tier has drew a solid 26 players. 8 players in winners (JWong, Gatsby, Gerjay, Mihan, Jiggabry, Lawrence, ???, VDO). They're in 9th place matches in Losers.
- Alpha 2 I believe is down to top 8.
- I don't have the brackets for the team tourney. From what I understand it drew 18 teams for 3rd Strike, 10 for CvS2, 10 for GG:AC, 8 for Marvel. The usual suspects are still in their respective games.

Time for breakfast...

[Zaelar]

Like I explained earlier, it's 10 teams in a 16 man bracket, so no matter how you set the brackets, 2 teams will get a super-bye.



6 teams get a bye, 4 don't. What the hell is a super-bye? Unless you have a qualifying thing like evo, noone ever gets more than one bye. This is the kind of thing you learn before holding a small local tournament.

[noodleman]

Morning...

- Concerning the Guilty Gear situation. I understand there were long hold ups for that game. I know sometimes the GG scene feels they get fucked over by the SF scene. I want the players to know that I am sorry if you were going through what seems to have amounted to an hour of non tournament time. Anyone can tell you I was running around like a madman supervising and handling a lot of the typical issues. If someone had come to me, I would have been happy to settle that up for you. There will be times where I may not seem approachable because I'm very busy but trust me in saying I do care about all my players issues and will do what I can to make sure you enjoy yourself as much as possible.



Apparently CvS2 doesn't count as SF either....fucking guys kept playing marvel and 3s :P

[YellowS4]

Jonstar and Gordon come out of retirement to fuck shit up.

Too good.

[AlterGenesis]

6 teams get a bye, 4 don't. What the hell is a super-bye? Unless you have a qualifying thing like evo, noone ever gets more than one bye. This is the kind of thing you learn before holding a small local tournament.

Nazir; I was totally trying to explain that shit to you. You know, about moving other teams into the same bracket as you and K2's team and those teams getting the preliminary bye.


Kellfire did continue the brackets while I had to play my matches in other games. And it still didn't finish so stop trying to blame it on me, it's not like me leaving delayed things, because Kellfire is such an awesome dude that out of the 30 people who were standing around GG, he had the brains to figure out 1 person isn't enough to host it smoothly and he continued the brackets for me. If you want it to go faster, HELP OUT. Actions speak louder than words. Everyone knows it didn't finish because of people who had to play their matches in other games and that can't be helped.

And then there's the funny people who start up a casual game while I'm setting up the next match, then when I tell them to quit the match so we can start the tournament match they whine about me ruining their casual match. They complain about the tournament taking too long and then do things to delay it even further. Why are people so contradictory? I don't know, but if anyone thinks they can do a better job, then feel free to run the singles tournament for GGAC on Saturday. :wink:

Dude, you have to get over the fact that this isn't personal. It's FACT. It's what happened last night. You guys take everything so personally like it's life and death. Honestly, dude, all you need to do, is once in a while when you're free come out to us and speak and go hey, we're waiting on JS. Play casuals until they show up. Once they show up get off. You know, stuff like that. The delays aren't your fault, although the way it was handled was questionable.

If it'll help you out so you're not scrambling, I will run AC for you. You can focus on playing that way.

[DarkDragon]

Kellfire did continue the brackets while I had to play my matches in other games. And it still didn't finish so stop trying to blame it on me, it's not like me leaving delayed things, because Kellfire is such an awesome dude that out of the 30 people who were standing around GG, he had the brains to figure out 1 person isn't enough to host it smoothly and he continued the brackets for me. If you want it to go faster, HELP OUT. Actions speak louder than words. Everyone knows it didn't finish because of people who had to play their matches in other games and that can't be helped.

And then there's the funny people who start up a casual game while I'm setting up the next match, then when I tell them to quit the match so we can start the tournament match they whine about me ruining their casual match. They complain about the tournament taking too long and then do things to delay it even further. Why are people so contradictory? I don't know, but if anyone thinks they can do a better job, then feel free to run the singles tournament for GGAC on Saturday. :wink:

Clarity&Confucius, sealhunta & altergenesis
You guys are not children, you don't need the directors to spoon feed you. If you don't know whos running the tourny or whats going on, just don't sit around...ASK.

Like Sapphire said, if you think you can do a better job, then get your ass off the floor and start helping the guy out instead of crying.

And I laugh at that reference to gety management. You guys fail to realize that hes doing the exact same thing that orbit management did to TOSF back in the day to reel us in. I'm just waiting to see how long he lasts before he realises he owns the gg community, then pulls out his fat money-laced cock and starts pounding said community's ass.

btw altergenesis: I'm holding your word on helping Sapphire with AC

[AlterGenesis]

I hold my word. I know how to run a tournament. I'll find you, give me the brackets and we'll be good to go. DD, you have to understand, that it's easier to find us, then find Sapphire. I want to ask him stuff, but he is not there for me to ask those questions. You can't make it sound like we're always in the wrong here. The second someone has a negative comment, it's like "hey, you can't say bad shit about us. You crybaby." Relax dude. We want T8 to goes as smoothly as possible.

[Gaijinblaze]

...Fil? :wonder:

Jay if you read this and you know what's going on let me know.

[Clarity&Confucius]

6 teams get a bye, 4 don't. What the hell is a super-bye? Unless you have a qualifying thing like evo, noone ever gets more than one bye. This is the kind of thing you learn before holding a small local tournament.


Indeed. To be honest maybe we are complaining to much, but if you need help with brackets or runners or anything, PLEASE ASK, we will be more than happy to help out (and im sorry u had to deal with people complaining when u have to still work on assignment nazir).

As for the LG, why doesn't the GG community hold 3 places for house tournaments, sauga (rae), markham (k2) and york (me and maybe if nazir can do it), i live 3 mins from york and volunteer my kitchen area (as my room is 2 small).
Lets keep the GGAC community not any arcades hoe and reach more people by having more local tournaments. Lets find ways we can solve these problems not just complain about them. + > -

[C Royd]

Samir deals from the bottom of the deck

[Angel of Rage]

It is the fact that the GGAC community had to suffer overall, several players are missing team mates, some even 2!!!!!!!!! but overall the whole community time was wasted. If someone who has entered the tournament not done in their other tournament then give them their money back and say sorry you cant play cause your not fucking there, gl in the tournament you think is more important. Instead of 3 people getting a fing refund, 3-7 people will be DQ'ed, sometimes even whole teams, with only getting playing at max 1-2 matches in the tournament.

To your second point, there were casuals started with both tv's at GGAC at 830, it took a full hour, without any technical difficulties (the technical difficulties that occured at 8pm ended in 30 minutes not an hour and thirty minutes). A 9 team tournament would of been completed way before then, period. The end fact and point is that the game was advertised for today and could of gotten done today.

Another point is that the reschedule day didnt have to be the next day at 11am! Some people commute 2:00:00-2:30:00 by bus to get to the york cove. Leaving there at 1130pm getting home at 130am having to leave your house at930am not to mention the time u need to wake up to eat and get ready to leave. I don't see why it couldnt be hold sunday, because sunday has nothing at all scheduled and you wouldnt have a scrubby final cause no1 slept for 2-3 tournament players that thought another tournament was more important.

The GGAC community suffered period, end point. F evo rules, the tournament is held in a university, lets not have stupid unbending rules that fuck over tournament players. All i have to say if there is two teams that have missing players 1-2 should be paired against each other and pair full teams against full teams until it cant be helped.

T8= Seniority and STS FTL! The GG community is not pleased with the faculty of T8. < LG ---> <3 FTW

you talked like the GGAC trny was the only trny that got delayed. almost every other game at some point has to pause and take a break at some fucking point of time. Both marvel and cvs2 didnt even finish 1 round, you see ppl complaining about it?

[VruS]

ther game at some point has to pause and take a break at some fucking point of time. Both marvel and cvs2 didnt even finish 1 round, you see ppl complaining about it?

god damnit. i can't believe marvel and cvs didn't finish the 1st round. what a waste of time. I wish i never came.

[will]

Wow, I was just saying yesterday that it's been forever since someone's seen VruS and he was there, lol.

I know there's a ton of shit involved in organizing a tourney like this, but fuck if yesterday didn't suck. Pay $10 for admission and $5 for 3S teams to play two matches and then have the arcade close on us at 11:00. That's just jokes. Best $15 I ever spent (wait, plus $12 for parking... so that's $27 for two matches, one of which Ryan OCV'ed so I didn't even touch the controls).

There's no way Ryan or I were coming back on Saturday to spend another god knows how much on parking to play one match.

Money aside, I'm actually more disappointed that the 3S team tourney never finished on Friday. First match wasn't called till at least 8:30, and even with the best intentions in mind, there's never been a 3S tourney of that size that's finished in two and a half hours -- the majority of people (myself included) had no idea we were getting booted out at 11:00, and had we known there was a 90% chance of the team tournies running into two days, I'm pretty sure myself and a few others wouldn't have bothered coming.

So who to blame? I think it's a lot of factors. Stephen, Justin, Nathan, you guys plan the best you can, but in the end, I don't think Cove is right at all for a T tourney. Hours aside, the power issues are a nightmare. I'm not saying you guys are at fault -- you play with the cards you're dealt. I just think collectively we've got a pretty shitty hand for T8. You guys did your best to turn it into something that works.

Second is community involvement. How many people knew about T8 for months and knew that it's on console? A shitload. And how many offered to bring TVs and consoles? Practically no one (I'm guilty too). Having one PS2 for 3S teams makes moving to consoles pointless -- if you had the space, the power and the community equipment volunteers, you could have run at least 3 systems and blown through the brackets.

There's still two days to go, and I'm sure when all's said and done, there will be a lot of great matches, stories and memories that everyone can talk about. Even so, my constructive feedback is that I think that if the T tournies are here to stay, if you guys want this thing to grow, you gotta ditch the 'usual suspects' -- Orbit, Cove, those places are poison for this tourney. There's gotta be a community center or high school auditorium/gymnasium, something that can be rented on the cheap. The hours won't be much better than Cove's, but I think more equipment can help compress the time tourney's take, and if not, then some tournies have to go.

If there's nowhere else other than Orbit or Cove, then I think the answer is streamline -- get rid of some stuff (and yeah, some people won't like that), but that's the best option in my humble opinion. As it stands, it feels like you're trying to serve up a five-course meal in 20 minutes, and it's just not happening.

Anyway, kudos to Stephen, Justin and Nathan for the hard work. God knows Ryan and I have been through that and got tired of it fast. It's a thankless job where more people want to bitch at you than shake your hand, and you guys are good for putting up with it all.

[C Royd]

i disagree

[will]

haha, k.

[Jonstar!]

I apologize to all my team members for not showing up today!

Good luck -- Stephen, Jay, Nathan, Gordon!

[VruS]

Wow, I was just saying yesterday that it's been forever since someone's seen VruS and he was there, lol.


jokes on you motherfucker, I wasn't there in the first place :arazz:

what time is it ?

*super edit - I cheer for secret sauga crew!
** Justin, where is my b5 dvd? (way to retire) -jk good job on the handling sht.
*** SaugaSF I still want my dc 3s back.

sorry all i didn't contribute more than one shitty logo ;]

[DaFlipMastaXV]

jokes on you motherfucker, I wasn't there in the first place :
*** SaugaSF I still want my dc 3s back.


No.

Was nice seeing everyone one last time.

[g3nn]

1) Thugish_Pond (Xianghua)
2) OOFMATIC (Talim/Mina/Liz)
3) D.I.N.O (Taki)
4) Dreamkiller (Taki)
5) SunnyMuffin (Hwang/Xianghua)
5) NeoRussell (Yoshi/Setsuka)

Let me know if I spelt anything wrong.

[MiddleKingpin]

jesus h. christ JWong is fucking Doctor Hank McCoy at MVC2... MSS allll day.

[Nagata Lock II]

Best results ever....

anant

[DarkDragon]

annie says fuck the gg ac players

[Cruxay]

Blah, fucking roommates are denying me sleep.

But yeah, I dunno if any of you saw that shit, but I was the guy that put the last nail in Samir's coffin in the team setup.

Bet it.

Other people saw me; hell, we even checked the sticks and the settings JUST to make sure.

But thats beside the point. See, now I'm not gonna brag and say I can beast him, because the fact of the matter is, I upset him and I was the last guy expected to win.

The memory of the his hand slamming the stick after parrying and punishing his crossup still burns freshly in my head.

Well, Mihai, any takers for that bet of yours?

I may never be able to pull that shit off again..

See you in day 2.

life stories.

ps - freddyloco, my "good luck" was a genuine good luck. I know it was bad timing. :(

[Green]

Wow, I was just saying yesterday that it's been forever since someone's seen VruS and he was there, lol.

I know there's a ton of shit involved in organizing a tourney like this, but fuck if yesterday didn't suck. Pay $10 for admission and $5 for 3S teams to play two matches and then have the arcade close on us at 11:00. That's just jokes. Best $15 I ever spent (wait, plus $12 for parking... so that's $27 for two matches, one of which Ryan OCV'ed so I didn't even touch the controls).

There's no way Ryan or I were coming back on Saturday to spend another god knows how much on parking to play one match.

Money aside, I'm actually more disappointed that the 3S team tourney never finished on Friday. First match wasn't called till at least 8:30, and even with the best intentions in mind, there's never been a 3S tourney of that size that's finished in two and a half hours -- the majority of people (myself included) had no idea we were getting booted out at 11:00, and had we known there was a 90% chance of the team tournies running into two days, I'm pretty sure myself and a few others wouldn't have bothered coming.

So who to blame? I think it's a lot of factors. Stephen, Justin, Nathan, you guys plan the best you can, but in the end, I don't think Cove is right at all for a T tourney. Hours aside, the power issues are a nightmare. I'm not saying you guys are at fault -- you play with the cards you're dealt. I just think collectively we've got a pretty shitty hand for T8. You guys did your best to turn it into something that works.

Second is community involvement. How many people knew about T8 for months and knew that it's on console? A shitload. And how many offered to bring TVs and consoles? Practically no one (I'm guilty too). Having one PS2 for 3S teams makes moving to consoles pointless -- if you had the space, the power and the community equipment volunteers, you could have run at least 3 systems and blown through the brackets.

There's still two days to go, and I'm sure when all's said and done, there will be a lot of great matches, stories and memories that everyone can talk about. Even so, my constructive feedback is that I think that if the T tournies are here to stay, if you guys want this thing to grow, you gotta ditch the 'usual suspects' -- Orbit, Cove, those places are poison for this tourney. There's gotta be a community center or high school auditorium/gymnasium, something that can be rented on the cheap. The hours won't be much better than Cove's, but I think more equipment can help compress the time tourney's take, and if not, then some tournies have to go.

If there's nowhere else other than Orbit or Cove, then I think the answer is streamline -- get rid of some stuff (and yeah, some people won't like that), but that's the best option in my humble opinion. As it stands, it feels like you're trying to serve up a five-course meal in 20 minutes, and it's just not happening.

Anyway, kudos to Stephen, Justin and Nathan for the hard work. God knows Ryan and I have been through that and got tired of it fast. It's a thankless job where more people want to bitch at you than shake your hand, and you guys are good for putting up with it all.
Who knew a white guy could English so well?

good post btw

EDIT: Also, I was tempted to take my PS2 when I left early, but apparently that would have really fucked over the GGAC players.

[sealhunta]

Saturday was mad fun and it was organized and matches went by with lilttle to no time inbetween. This was the first time it was held at the cove and in life, there are some things that you can never be fully prepared for until you experience it.So after they experienced friday, they were able to organize shit nicely. Sunday will probably be nice too.

[PattyBam]

faced some great ppl today even tho
my stick was passed around like everywhere and i couldnt find it at one point XD
gg to everyone and to those who got a grade A from me....you know what that stands for!

[dublo7]

Like I explained earlier, it's 10 teams in a 16 man bracket, so no matter how you set the brackets, 2 teams will get a super-bye. And a super-bye isn't going to make things go any faster if some of the players are constantly being called over to 5 different other games they registered for.



This is kinda asking for too much. You want me to run it as fast as possible, but when there are problems/delays, you want me to take the time to explain what's going on to every single person? I left the brackets on the tv whenever I had to go play my matches on other games, you guys are free to check out what's happening, and maybe even help in getting the next match ready. If people are ready I get them to play their game, if they are busy with other games then shit we can't really do anything but wait. That's just how it works so don't expect things to go so smoothly at a national tournament. I also don't really remember you asking me what's up with the delays other people did and I told them we're waiting for teams that are busy with other games.

This is T8, a national tournament, with people competing in over 10 different fighting games, and yes there are many people who compete in multiple fighting games, which they cannot possibly play all at once as a human, so yes expect delays.

the best way to cut down on time waiting is to have more consoles and monitors/tv's. ngII did a great job getting as many as possible. and all players were welcome to bring a console/tv, so....near the end of the tourney most of the players are finalists in other games, so things can really slow down. that's life. if y our'e going to a tournament - expect to be there all day, end of story.

[g3nn]

Saturday was mad fun and it was organized and matches went by with lilttle to no time inbetween. This was the first time it was held at the cove and in life, there are some things that you can never be fully prepared for until you experience it.So after they experienced friday, they were able to organize shit nicely. Sunday will probably be nice too.
You are a blithering idiot. Everything ran the best it could on Friday and everything ran the best it could on Saturday. Difference is, we had a lot more time and a lot more equipment on Saturday. There was nothing for anyone to "experience" first. We've been doing this for a long time.

Id like to know how you troll the scene annonymously without joining any games, knowing anyone or doing anything useful... but feel you're qualified to pass judgement on anything? Why dont you run T9 and when you aren't able to get a single game off the ground, we'll all post about it.

[YellowS4]

LOL!

I don't feel like playing today.

[sealhunta]

You are a blithering idiot. Everything ran the best it could on Friday and everything ran the best it could on Saturday. Difference is, we had a lot more time and a lot more equipment on Saturday. There was nothing for anyone to "experience" first. We've been doing this for a long time.

Id like to know how you troll the scene annonymously without joining any games, knowing anyone or doing anything useful... but feel you're qualified to pass judgement on anything? Why dont you run T9 and when you aren't able to get a single game off the ground, we'll all post about it.


What i was talking about was that i thought that it was the first time at the cove.

and secondly, what are u talkign about "qualified to pass judgement". I never said i was some big expert in tournament organization. If you feel that i dont know what i'm talking about then dont listen to me. No one is forcing you to go onto an online forum where ppl post their thoughts and opinions and make immature reponses to them.