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nonentity
07-23-2007, 09:25 AM
You're wasting your life away on video games?

Be honest with yourself.


Top players don't make that much money from it.
Generally speaking women aren't impressed with video game skills. And yes, they hate watching you play.
Society labels you as losers,nerds or dorks.
You don't get much of any exercise doing it.
You very rarely get any respect unless it's from other nerds.
Everyone talks shit on you.
And your whole claim to fame is in a fictional world.

*waits for bad reputation*

I mean honestly, isn't it time for a reality check. And to consider the fact that you're wasting away your life, when you could be contributing more important things to others and the world.

Ferdinandz
07-23-2007, 09:33 AM
I rarely play games anymore, and when I do it's like an event, so no, I don't "ever feel like" :rofl:

nonentity
07-23-2007, 09:35 AM
Well then more power to you.

Pablo_the_Mex
07-23-2007, 09:35 AM
blah

Stfu emo. Why do you care what people think? It's a hobby, nothing more nothing less.

pherai
07-23-2007, 09:37 AM
I'll do what I enjoy. You sound like you sit in a cave all day and expect playing video games to produce money, women and fame for you. Get a life.

shoo
07-23-2007, 09:37 AM
You're wasting your life away on video games?

Be honest with yourself.


Top players don't make that much money from it.
Generally speaking women aren't impressed with video game skills. And yes, they hate watching you play.
Society labels you as losers,nerds,dorks, and or faggots.
You don't get much of any exercise doing it.
You very rarely get any respect unless it's from other nerds.
Everyone talks shit on you.
And your whole claim to fame is in a fictional world.

*waits for bad reputation*

I mean honestly, isn't it time for a reality check. And to consider the fact that you're wasting away your life, when you could be contributing more important things to others and the world.


alot of people have jobs and go to school, FULL TIME

its just a hobby, we dont make a life out of it.


and as if going to work endless hours is NOT wasting your life.

Ferdinandz
07-23-2007, 09:38 AM
Well then more power to you.

Hey, you asked! :rofl:

The Epidemic
07-23-2007, 09:41 AM
Stfu emo. Why do you care what people think? It's a hobby, nothing more nothing less.

seriously...stop crying because ppl clown you..

1
07-23-2007, 09:49 AM
Have you ever stopped to think that maybe people don't play games for the fame, fortune, or acceptance? Maybe people do it because they enjoy it. I don't see it as a waste of time if it's what you enjoy doing. Like any other hobby, it's usually strange to people who don't share the same interests.

I'm sure you're posting on SRK because of all the girls you can get on here, right? Or is it the respect? Or maybe it's the excercise?

ShawnLoganownzu
07-23-2007, 09:53 AM
1) Top players don't make that much money from it.
-Its not a job?

2)Generally speaking women aren't impressed with video game skills. And yes, they hate watching you play.
-dont play with women around, if they dont like that you play games they are fuckin newbs and dont deserve ur undying love

3)Society labels you as losers,nerds,dorks, and or faggots.
-we live in the most retarded society in the world

4)You don't get much of any exercise doing it.
-what, goto the gym, go for a run, put down the burgers.

5)You very rarely get any respect unless it's from other nerds.
-dont tell them you sit in ur room all day? mention the fact you get to travel alot and meet people and again. people who dont play video games dont understand them, therefore you can make shit up and be insta-cool

6)Everyone talks shit on you.
-If you suck and/or not a cool person

7)And your whole claim to fame is in a fictional world.
-eh world of warcrack?


8)I mean honestly, isn't it time for a reality check. And to consider the fact that you're wasting away your life, when you could be contributing more important things to others and the world.

-video games are for entertainment. on the other side i could say, watching TV/movies is a waste of life yet a lot of people would beg to differ. Its a matter of opinion.

Now if you changed this topic to relate to MMORPGS such as world of suckmyasscraft, then i completely agree and change all feelings that those people suck and should die

PaRt2
07-23-2007, 09:54 AM
Just a hobby buddy.

I have a full-time job at a PD and go to school (but not at the moment; summer). I also volunteer at my church 1-2 times a week. I work my ass off and fighting games are just a great way to blow off steam and have fun. I'm sure you have many hobbies/outputs that you enjoy.

I don't care if people don't like me (I give everyone a chance). I don't believe that all women will not like you because you play fighting games. I don't expect to be "cool" because I'm good at fighting games. I don't consider other people who like fighting games "nerds". I don't feel that society labels us "losers, faggots" or anything that you said; I believe that you feel that way about it and are just pointing the finger elsewhere. I don't think you belong here.

And I DEFINITELY don't feel like I'm wasting my time/life.

To each his own.

shoo
07-23-2007, 09:55 AM
people talk shit about you no matter what, so who gives a crap

SeizureGummies
07-23-2007, 09:56 AM
Top players don't make that much money from it.
Generally speaking women aren't impressed with video game skills. And yes, they hate watching you play.
Society labels you as losers,nerds,dorks, and or faggots.
You don't get much of any exercise doing it.
You very rarely get any respect unless it's from other nerds.
Everyone talks shit on you.
And your whole claim to fame is in a fictional world.

*waits for bad reputation*

I mean honestly, isn't it time for a reality check. And to consider the fact that you're wasting away your life, when you could be contributing more important things to others and the world.
Wow, what the hell? These all sound like personal problems to me.
Maybe you need a reality check and see what you, yourself, are wasting your life on.

You do realize you can still exercise, get respect from well anyone, still get chics, and still make money even if your a top player.

As pointed out before, its just a hobby.
If your not playing games, then the time you would be using to play games would be wasted to do something else that was "pointless" but was to your interest.

nonentity
07-23-2007, 09:57 AM
Pablo: I'm not being emotional about it in anyway. I'm simply making a point. No need to get so offended.

Shoo: Going to work is more productive in general then playing video games. You are learning real world skills and developing them.

Video games serve no other purpose then to kill time.

1: My point is basically there is a very low productivity level to video games.

And with your logic, I could go do heroin because I enjoy it. And in that sense it wouldn't be a waste of time. Right......

Uh, I hardly post on SRK as is. Don't come here for women, respect, and obviously not exercise. I actually came to experience the community, and find that people here are really defensive and critical of each other.

[SLAYER]chaos
07-23-2007, 09:59 AM
I know what you mean, everytime I play third strike I cut myself afterwards.

shoo
07-23-2007, 10:00 AM
Video games serve no other purpose then to kill time.



ZOMG ARE YOU SERIUOS!?1?!?!!?!


all this time i've wasted on trying to be an ultra champion celebrity :sad::sad::sad:

Warpticon
07-23-2007, 10:06 AM
Video games serve no other purpose then to kill time.

I'm pretty sure everybody else was aware of this but your dumb ass. I can't believe you came and started a thread about this like "games = entertainment" was some sort of life-changing revelation. Can't wait to se your "oxygen required to breathe" thread that's surely forthcoming.

PaRt2
07-23-2007, 10:06 AM
people talk shit about you no matter what, so who gives a crap
PREACH ON BROTHA! :pray:

Video games serve no other purpose then to kill time.

Well, what do you think we're doing when we're not working/going to school?

I actually came to experience the community, and find that people here are really defensive and critical of each other.

It's a competitive community. We're not all saints but you'll come to find a few friendly people.

tsumi
07-23-2007, 10:10 AM
everythings a waste of time, and everythings just an opinion of someone else. do what makes you happy.

The Epidemic
07-23-2007, 10:13 AM
chaos;4124276']I know what you mean, everytime I play third strike I cut myself afterwards.


:rofl::rofl:

Pablo_the_Mex
07-23-2007, 10:16 AM
Uh, I hardly post on SRK as is. Don't come here for women, respect, and obviously not exercise. I actually came to experience the community, and find that people here are really defensive and critical of each other.

What do you expect coming into our beastly forums with your bitch ass whining. You want remorse, someone to hold your hand because for some reason you think street fighter is your path to happiness? If you are looking to a videogame to give your life meaning, then please just jump off a fucking building.

JackTenrac!
07-23-2007, 10:18 AM
I'll wake you up when October starts.

BBCampbell
07-23-2007, 10:19 AM
And he wonders why he has all those red bars...

Honestly friend, if you're talking about time-wasting, you DO realize that you just wasted like 20 minutes posting about how video games are a waste of time on a video gaming forum, right?

Get the fuck outta here and let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, July 07. (Because you don't even deserve a name.)

Baozi Fairy
07-23-2007, 10:22 AM
I'm more interested in the guy's avatar.

BananaWeed
07-23-2007, 10:28 AM
What do you get out of posting on an internet forum about videogames? Fame? Money? Girls? Exercise?

Ironic.

nonentity
07-23-2007, 10:28 AM
What do you expect coming into our beastly forums with your bitch ass whining. You want remorse, someone to hold your hand because for some reason you think street fighter is your path to happiness? If you are looking to a videogame to give your life meaning, then please just jump off a fucking building. Who said I was whining? You're reading neutral text. lol

Remember, it's you guys that play the games. Not me. You're really talking shit on yourselves.:rofl:

I think gamers in general are trying to ignore the fact that they blind to their low productivity value. Especially when they play hours on end, and think because they got near the end, that it was well worth it.

Dasiatic
07-23-2007, 10:29 AM
You're wasting your life away on video games?

Be honest with yourself.


Top players don't make that much money from it.
Generally speaking women aren't impressed with video game skills. And yes, they hate watching you play.
Society labels you as losers,nerds,dorks, and or faggots.
You don't get much of any exercise doing it.
You very rarely get any respect unless it's from other nerds.
Everyone talks shit on you.
And your whole claim to fame is in a fictional world.

*waits for bad reputation*

I mean honestly, isn't it time for a reality check. And to consider the fact that you're wasting away your life, when you could be contributing more important things to others and the world.

The World of vieogames is bigger than you think. Back then , you could'nt imagine there being TV stations dedicated to video-games, clothes, media, shit thats even broadcasted over television and the internet. over in japan, they treat that shit like its the olympics or something.
players get interviewed, show up on television, and get adored by other video-game fans.
While new fighting games constantly try to set a new standard in deepness, following the examples that players like K.O, and Kokujin had set for gaming community.
Thats some weight on your shoulders, is'nt it?
You can only imagine how many bitches they get in japan because of that.

You think game players are just nerds?
go on youtube and see all the creepy fanboy videos of Daigo taking a shit, and you tell me whats going on here.

you're loking at everything from the Western point of view. To the japanese, its different. Just you wait, soon this will become a world-wide sport that's gonna be sponsored by MTV, and other companies.

sounds crazy right?



yeah, like everyone else said, that sounds more like a personal issue to me, though their may be some others thay feel the same way.
If you feel that way, then do something about it.


dont confuse this shit with WoW.
WoW is a completely differnt story, and sounds more like what you're getting at.

Geese Pants
07-23-2007, 10:30 AM
Uh, I hardly post on SRK as is. Don't come here for women, respect, and obviously not exercise. I actually came to experience the community, and find that people here are really defensive and critical of each other.

Just like you are..........

nonentity
07-23-2007, 10:31 AM
What do you get out of posting on an internet forum about videogames? Fame? Money? Girls? Exercise?

Ironic.

Cause I post soooooo much here.:rofl:

shoo
07-23-2007, 10:31 AM
I think gamers in general are trying to ignore the fact that they blind to their low productivity value. Especially when they play hours on end, and think because they got near the end, that it was well worth it.


yup he's right

everyone back to the coal mine

nonentity
07-23-2007, 10:34 AM
Just like you are..........

What am I defensive about?

I'm helping explain my views. I'm not saying "how dare you attack me as a person, fuck you, go to hell."

And critical, hardly. What I stated is basically fact, and I think you are quiet aware of that.

I'm fine within my means of explaining it.

nonentity
07-23-2007, 10:40 AM
yeah, like everyone else said, that sounds more like a personal issue to me, though their may be some others thay feel the same way.
If you feel that way, then do something about it.


dont confuse this shit with WoW.
WoW is a completely differnt story, and sounds more like what you're getting at.

I actually think you probably have given one of the best responses to this.

These are not personal issues. I have no issues to take up with video games. I don't play them. Plus what I stated in the first post is basically a reoccuring trend from other people.

WoW is a video game, you can't really exclude yourself from them. Video games in general are played many many hours on end, wether it's WoW, or Street Fighter.

JackTenrac!
07-23-2007, 10:42 AM
Basing this on stereotypes.

- So Evo doesn't offer $3 Gs to winners of the CVS tourney?

- Women take interest when notice that you feel passionate about it. There are women who enjoy videogames as much as guys do. I know one who'd kick my ass in Tekken ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Sounds like you just want to get laid, a chic, or something.

- people who casually play video games can point out who Mario is in a second. Why care about society's views, as a whole, when members of the community praise your efforts?

- Exercise? WiiFit and the Wii are about to prove otherwise.

- Self respect holds precedent importance first and foremost.

- See the point made above on respect.

Dasiaitic really finished you off but I felt like my September Ends quote was over the top.


I don't play them.


HADOUKEN! (http://gallery.digitaldeviation.com/d/1229-1/o+rly__ruserious.JPG)

RockBogart
07-23-2007, 10:45 AM
Actually video games are mainstream now. Everyone has a console just about, even chicks.

The Epidemic
07-23-2007, 10:50 AM
I actually think you probably have given one of the best responses to this.

These are not personal issues. I have no issues to take up with video games. I don't play them. Plus what I stated in the first post is basically a reoccuring trend from other people.

WoW is a video game, you can't really exclude yourself from them. Video games in general are played many many hours on end, wether it's WoW, or Street Fighter.

dude, think about how much time you wasted trying to give your "thoughts" on a video game forum. You dont play SF, yet you take time out of your day to create an account and come on here with a bunch of bs. about how we waste precious hous of our life playing video games. I mean, everybody "wastes time" someway. Be it by video games, television, sleeping ect... So in short, just stfu k?

nonentity
07-23-2007, 10:50 AM
Basing this on stereotypes.

- So Evo doesn't offer $3 Gs to winners of the CVS tourney?

- Women take interest when notice that you feel passionate about it. There are women who enjoy videogames as much as guys do. I know one who'd kick my ass in Tekken ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Sounds like you just want to get laid, a chic, or something.

- people who casually play video games can point out who Mario is in a second. Why care about society's views, as a whole, when members of the community praise your efforts?

- Exercise? WiiFit and the Wii are about to prove otherwise.

- Self respect holds precedent importance first and foremost.

- See the point made above on respect.

Dasiaitic really finished you off but I felt like my September Ends quote was over the top.



HADOUKEN! (http://gallery.digitaldeviation.com/d/1229-1/o+rly__ruserious.JPG)



What you're talking about is the community, you need to look at humanity as a whole and realize that maybe them thinking you are losers might hold some truth.

And not all people of the community praise your efforts. I've seen people argue and if not want to fight over video games. That is pretty sad.


And if it's so obvious I don't play, then why are people asking me?

yeah exactly, stfu. lol

Pablo_the_Mex
07-23-2007, 10:50 AM
Who said I was whining? You're reading neutral text. lol

Remember, it's you guys that play the games. Not me. You're really talking shit on yourselves.:rofl:

I think gamers in general are trying to ignore the fact that they blind to their low productivity value. Especially when they play hours on end, and think because they got near the end, that it was well worth it.

Any hobby can be deemed a waste of time, it is all dependent on preference. What is it that you seek? We do it because we enjoy it, there is not some profound explanation.

Also, when the hell does anything you enjoy doing have to to be productive? I am productive at work, where I make lots of gwop. I do not want to be productive during activities I do for fun.

Dasiatic
07-23-2007, 10:52 AM
I actually think you probably have given one of the best responses to this.

These are not personal issues. I have no issues to take up with video games. I don't play them. Plus what I stated in the first post is basically a reoccuring trend from other people.

WoW is a video game, you can't really exclude yourself from them. Video games in general are played many many hours on end, wether it's WoW, or Street Fighter.

well ok, i understand you.

There are people who can balance playing videogames, and having a social life, too.
there are plenty of people who can do that, like me.
So me being stereotyped as an anti-social blob--it never happens.
because i make it known to people that i can do other things.
like, i can play sports, be the livewire of my social group, AND play videogames. am i still a nerd now?

In everything you do, there will always be a negative stereotype to it.
You wont imagine there being one for alot of things, but you'll be surprised at how many things people say about country singers, wrestlers, corperate associates, rappers, rich white girs, and other people

nonentity
07-23-2007, 10:54 AM
dude, think about how much time you wasted trying to give your "thoughts" on a video game forum. You dont play SF, yet you take time out of your day to create an account and come on here with a bunch of bs. about how we waste precious hous of our life playing video games. I mean, everybody "wastes time" someway. Be it by video games, television, sleeping ect... So in short, just stfu k?lol this is like a real long joke.

Right now I've spent more time then I ever have on this forum, and I can't stop laughing.

A bunch of bs? It's not bs, if it is reality.

Bs is the things you are trying to tell me that I have a personal problem. lol

Yes it is true we all waste time somehow, but video games has to be up there in a true waste of time.

Sleeping is not a waste of time. It's essential for the body function. A REAL WORLD APPLICATION. lol

You don't find that too often playing video games.

KnyghtFall
07-23-2007, 10:57 AM
I actually think you probably have given one of the best responses to this.

These are not personal issues. I have no issues to take up with video games. I don't play them. Plus what I stated in the first post is basically a reoccuring trend from other people.

WoW is a video game, you can't really exclude yourself from them. Video games in general are played many many hours on end, wether it's WoW, or Street Fighter.

If you don't play video games (fighting games in particular), why are you wasting time at SRK?

Why not just leave, and do something more productive? Better yet, why don't you go show the WoW players the error of their ways? :lol:

valaris
07-23-2007, 10:57 AM
After reading this I was really hungry for one of these:

FallingEdge
07-23-2007, 10:57 AM
I go out and work and take care of business during the day. When I don't have to deal with work, I'm at college doing school work and meeting teh hot women.

At night, I meet up with peeps to play VF5 and other fighting games and when the weekend rolls around, I get out and about and enjoy that aspect of life.

So someone thinks I'm a loser cause I play fighting games seriously and am going to EVO? Pleeeeeeeeease. Like I care about that. Many of us have "lives" as you put it and just cause you don't understand doesn't mean you should hate on it.

Get your facts straight homey.

shoo
07-23-2007, 10:57 AM
So you take time out of your busy schedule, just to post here and argue with a bunch of "losers"?


very nice :tup:




so you're saying video games are a complete waste of time, completely useless in real world use.

ok

so?

The Epidemic
07-23-2007, 10:58 AM
lol this is like a real long joke.

Right now I've spent more time then I ever have on this forum, and I can't stop laughing.

A bunch of bs? It's not bs, if it is reality.

Bs is the things you are trying to tell me that I have a personal problem. lol

Yes it is true we all waste time somehow, but video games has to be up there in a true waste of time.

Sleeping is not a waste of time. It's essential for the body function. A REAL WORLD APPLICATION. lol

You don't find that too often playing video games.

when i say sleeping i mean, going to sleep out of lazyness:rolleyes:

and my arguement still stands because your taking time out of your day to respond to ppl in a fighting video-game community. I mean, im starting to question if you even have a life...and WTF is up wit your av:confused:

nonentity
07-23-2007, 10:59 AM
well ok, i understand you.

There are people who can balance playing videogames, and having a social life, too.
there are plenty of people who can do that, like me.
So me being stereotyped as an anti-social blob--it never happens.
because i make it known to people that i can do other things.
like, i can play sports, be the livewire of my social group, AND play videogames. am i still a nerd now?

In everything you do, there will always be a negative stereotype to it.
You wont imagine there being one for alot of things, but you'll be surprised at how many things people say about country singer, wrestlers, corperate associates, and other jobs. Exactly.

I'm glad someone took the time to realize that society does label you as some dumb things.

But at the same time you have to look at the logic in it.

Wrestlers are steroid junkies.

It's true, but not all of them take it, nor do all of them abuse it.

nonentity
07-23-2007, 11:02 AM
If you don't play video games (fighting games in particular), why are you wasting time at SRK?
Cause I think there needs to be a higher level of awareness with gamers.

FallingEdge
07-23-2007, 11:03 AM
Cause I think there needs to be a higher level of awareness with gamers.

...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

JackTenrac!
07-23-2007, 11:05 AM
What you're talking about is the community, you need to look at humanity as a whole and realize that maybe them thinking you are losers might hold some truth.


... still, a stereotype being used. Did you know that Dave Chappelle plays WoW consistently? Is he a loser too? As stated: it's a hobby and people react to it differently. Also, anyone who takes society's norms like a strict rulebook on trivial things like a hobby should be hanged, really.

And not all people of the community praise your efforts. I've seen people argue and if not want to fight over video games. That is pretty sad.


People fight over money, too. In fact, there is a bit of a war going on right now. All communities and societies have conflicting thoughts. Without conflict, there isn't much interest. People don't think the same and I wouldn't mind some sort of challenge to go through before my point becomes a failure or an underlying truth. Right or wrong I'll get my point across.

And if it's so obvious I don't play, then why are people asking me?

yeah exactly, stfu. lolSo why are you here? did you even estimate the type of shit you'll get for bringing this here. You should leave. Just log off while you still have a creditable leg to stand on. This guy's probably a homo who lost his boyfriend to SA-II Ryu quickly, so now he's taking revenge and with a hope that he'll break the curse. Dood, seek Montel.

shoo
07-23-2007, 11:06 AM
Cause I think there needs to be a higher level of awareness with gamers.



Wow thank you Giraldo Rivera.

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SeizureGummies
07-23-2007, 11:07 AM
Cause I think there needs to be a higher level of awareness with gamers.
Dude... you really need to step outside.
There's more to life than just the computer in front of you.

Dasiatic
07-23-2007, 11:20 AM
I go out and work and take care of business during the day. When I don't have to deal with work, I'm at college doing school work and meeting teh hot women.

At night, I meet up with peeps to play VF5 and other fighting games and when the weekend rolls around, I get out and about and enjoy that aspect of life.

So someone thinks I'm a loser cause I play fighting games seriously and am going to EVO? Pleeeeeeeeease. Like I care about that. Many of us have "lives" as you put it and just cause you don't understand doesn't mean you should hate on it.

Get your facts straight homey.

you really didnt need to explain your daily activities, we all know that you're cool beans, son.

Cause I think there needs to be a higher level of awareness with gamers.

trust me, if we never knew that since the the atari and wonderswan era, we would never have known now.



Dasiaitic really finished you off but I felt like my September Ends quote was over the top.




cuz im an ill nigga, ill niggas love the ill niggas, niggas. SHIT!

nonentity
07-23-2007, 11:20 AM
when i say sleeping i mean, going to sleep out of lazyness:rolleyes:

and my arguement still stands because your taking time out of your day to respond to ppl in a fighting video-game community. I mean, im starting to question if you even have a life...and WTF is up wit your av:confused:

Sleeping out of laziness is still healthy for the most part. Your body needs time to recover and heal.

It also depends on your acitivities during the day.

Ya I have a life, spending a few hours socializing isn't as detrimental as playing video games for extended periods of time.

And my avatar is flex wheeler, one of the most symmetrical bodybuilders of the 90s. Truely a legend.

RyuHikaru
07-23-2007, 11:22 AM
Sleeping out of laziness is still healthy for the most part. Your body needs time to recover and heal.

It also depends on your acitivities during the day.

Ya I have a life, spending a few hours socializing isn't as detrimental as playing video games for extended periods of time.

And my avatar is flex wheeler, one of the most symmetrical bodybuilders of the 90s. Truely my boyfriend.

fixed this one

nonentity
07-23-2007, 11:23 AM
trust me, if we never knew that since the the atari and wonderswan era, we would never have known now.

My goal in making this thread was to see how everyone responds, and their logic and justification for it.

I'm a little dissapointed, but I can see some good logic to some of it.

FallingEdge
07-23-2007, 11:24 AM
you really didnt need to explain your daily activities, we all know that you're cool beans, son.

Ha. I do what I can :wonder:

nonentity
07-23-2007, 11:26 AM
fixed this one
So you quoted all of what I said to change one word? :rofl:

Keep up with the insults. It really doesn't matter. lol

tindiamond
07-23-2007, 11:27 AM
Cause I think there needs to be a higher level of awareness with gamers.

Thank you for caring.:rolleyes: But honestly who gives a shit how gamers spend their time. The truth is that we all have lives outside of gaming.

BBQ
07-23-2007, 11:32 AM
justification? C'mon man, it's a hobby, something to do, who cares if it doesn't bring you fame and fortune.

The Epidemic
07-23-2007, 11:33 AM
So you quoted all of what I said to change one word? :rofl:

Keep up with the insults. It really doesn't matter. lol

Im convinced that you have no life...

Dasiatic
07-23-2007, 11:36 AM
ok guys, moral of the story is that video-games as a hobby are ok.
as long as it is'nt WoW.:rofl:

BBQ
07-23-2007, 11:38 AM
WoW is on some next level shit.



And when I mean next level shit, I mean people forgetting to feed their kids, themselves, or getting taken at gun point for their pass word.

valaris
07-23-2007, 11:41 AM
WoW is on some next level shit.



And when I mean next level shit, I mean people forgetting to feed their kids, themselves, or getting taken at gun point for their pass word.

Isn't that Gunbound?

Pablo_the_Mex
07-23-2007, 11:43 AM
My goal in making this thread was to see how everyone responds, and their logic and justification for it.

I'm a little dissapointed, but I can see some good logic to some of it.


What logic and justification are you seeking? We can't do something just because we enjoy it? We are going in circles here buddy.

Bobbypigo
07-23-2007, 11:55 AM
Snip .

wow.
It would be silly to list the things I do in life that make me feel accomplished
just to prove I dont wallow in self loathing.
Even if I did NOTHING except play Video games I would still feel good about myself because I DO WHAT I LOVE.
This is a perfect example of someone creating a thread just to hear the clickety clak of their own keyboard.

IMPORTANT: Girls prob dont like you because you are an intravert that doesnt communicate himself well. . . not cuz of the video games.

JackTenrac!
07-23-2007, 12:02 PM
LOL at WoW, for real these days. I wouldn't mind marrying a woman who could parry an air Gouki SA - 1 fully, though.

Oroman
07-23-2007, 12:03 PM
Dude, fighting games kick ass. It's a great hobby, but I do think that people should go outside. It's obvious that the creator of this thread needs to do that and enjoy life instead of ranting. Seriously, life is to short for that shit.

¤Scrimples¤
07-23-2007, 12:40 PM
http://skillground.com

I'm glad I found a way to turn one of my hobbies into supplemental income.

Having fun and benefiting from it at the same time is great.

fjf314
07-23-2007, 12:56 PM
Cause I think there needs to be a higher level of awareness with gamers.

Wow, what an altruist. You're really doing your part for the good of humanity. What happened, did they turn you down when you attempted to become a Jehovah's Witness?

BBCampbell
07-23-2007, 02:18 PM
IMPORTANT: Girls probably don't like you because you are an introvert that (should be "who") doesn't communicate himself well. . . not cuz (Should be "because") of the video games.

If you're going to rail on someone for their lack of communication skills, you should probably run your posts through a grammar and spellcheck first. Murdering the English language isn't the best way to get your point across.

Oh, and we don't care about how successful in life you are or how successful with women you are (BTW, pics or it didn't happen). This is Shoryuken.com, a website (and message board) that is dedicated to people who play and love fighting games. That doesn't mean we don't do other things, we just like Street Fighter. Now, if you think video games are a waste of time, then why are you here?

Just pack up and clear out of here. You're a (allegedly) successful person, go be successful.


...Somewhere else...



...because you're a failure here...

RoninChaos
07-23-2007, 02:24 PM
I actually think you probably have given one of the best responses to this.

These are not personal issues. I have no issues to take up with video games. I don't play them. Plus what I stated in the first post is basically a reoccuring trend from other people.

WoW is a video game, you can't really exclude yourself from them. Video games in general are played many many hours on end, wether it's WoW, or Street Fighter.

Okay, you don't play games? At all?

THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE?

Your reply doesn't really matter. If you don't play games, then there's no reason for you to have an account here.

BBCampbell
07-23-2007, 02:34 PM
I think gamers in general are trying to ignore the fact that they blind to their low productivity value. Especially when they play hours on end, and think because they got near the end, that it was well worth it.

Dude, you just described every hobby in the world. The point of video games is to be non-productive. Humans aren't machines, we need to unwind and relax, which is what games are for.

You act like we're all a bunch of losers who do nothing but sit at home and play video games all day. We're not. We have jobs, lives, hopes and dreams, etc.

Sure, we're passionate about SF, but how is that different than those who are passionate about other things like, oh say, bodybuilding...

Bodybuilding is ultimately useless. All you do is pump up all day to get your muscles bigger and bigger. You go for that ripped, perfect look without worrying about functionality at all. Pretty soon, you get so bulked up that you have trouble clapping. Plus, more people suffer long-term injuries from bodybuilding than video gaming. Pulled muscles, lopsided muscle development, steroids... the worst you can get from gaming is carpal tunnel.

Anyway, I have some questions for you, July 2007:

1) I get the feeling you're trying to sell us something. What is it? Also, no, we're not interested.

2) I also get the feeling that you're a woman whose boyfriend/husband/guy she has a crush on is obsessed with video games and is neglecting you. Is this true?

3) Are you Marc "My Point" Griffin? If so, prove it. Show us your catchra. Also, why are you speaking in such a disparaging tone to a community which is so supportive of your "high caliber game"? Have you moved out of your car yet?

Dasiatic
07-23-2007, 02:45 PM
guys its ok.
its all over.

he has his opinion. but guess what? video-games are still striving as a culture.
people said the same about hiphop and graffiti, so its all good.

fishjie
07-23-2007, 02:47 PM
yeah i always feel like ive wasted my time. the regret is because there were always other things i wanted to do, such as go to class, or focus on some other hobbies, but the addictive nature of games make them suck up a huge portion of my time. so yeah, i think a lot of it was a waste in that respect.

however, i cant hate on people who have their life together and play games to relax. and since i have a job and a degree in computer science, im not too worried. i would like to play less though.

I DO however, hate on ppl who play MMORPGS all day long, drop out of school, leech off their parents, and are going nowhere in life.

on a side note: professional gaming WILL become big in a decade or so. look at korea, its HUGE there. however fighting games will always be a niche market that won't get much sponsorship and have very little payout. from an investment perspective, it wouldnt pay to train hours of your life to MAYBE be a good player (but good enough to be the TOP player?), for small payouts.

pherai
07-23-2007, 02:52 PM
he has his opinion. but guess what? video-games are still striving as a culture.
people said the same about hiphop and graffiti, so its all good.

Thats not really the point. We don't play video games hoping to be around when it breaks out and becomes something that makes you cool, we do it because its fun. How society percieves video games is little more than an after thought in the minds of most gamers.

The Epidemic
07-23-2007, 02:53 PM
awww man...you guys scared the douche away.

Dasiatic
07-23-2007, 03:28 PM
Thats not really the point. We don't play video games hoping to be around when it breaks out and becomes something that makes you cool, we do it because its fun. How society percieves video games is little more than an after thought in the minds of most gamers.

oh ok. in that case, disregard this and read my other posts.

tsumi
07-23-2007, 06:10 PM
man this guy is worst troll ever, not even worth reading his fagotry

shoo
07-23-2007, 06:11 PM
omfg is this shit stlll going?

where's SK?

edit: nvm SK doesnt moderate here


i guess ill have to

Septimus Prime
07-23-2007, 06:57 PM
Videogames taught me the basics of reading and writing, long before I even started elementary school, and they have also dramatically improved my dexterity and hand-wyw coordination.

One of my other hobbies is archery. You tell me how ranged medieval combat is going to be applicable in my life. And assume I'm not Olympic-calibre and never will be.

Colt Steele
07-23-2007, 07:50 PM
man this guy is worst troll ever
Truly. '07 users as a whole aren't a complete loss, but the wagon full of this type are making me want to just eat a shotgun barrel more and more by the day.

DietSoap
07-23-2007, 08:21 PM
Cause I think there needs to be a higher level of awareness with gamers. Damn dude... I'm just not feelin the sincerity here. :rolleyes:

I do believe you had a reason for this topic... One that you may not be fully connected with. But that is neither here nor there.

Games have benefited me SOOO much more than television and movies. I'm not dissing TV (which I no longer watch, btw), but logically, why didn't you diss TV instead? People spend hours on their televisions.

Just the basics, games help coordination, tighten reflexes, and keep your brain at it's sharpest... TV gives me the History Channel as it's highlight...

Gaming also helps friendships. I can't count how many friends I got in the Pokemon era.. No show or movie has done that. It also strengthens those relations. Could you imagine back in middle school, inviting a friend to watch TV with? Of course not... But maybe some Street Fighter or Battle Toads.

{PFH}-Lake
07-23-2007, 08:26 PM
You're wasting your life away on video games?

Be honest with yourself.


Top players don't make that much money from it.
Generally speaking women aren't impressed with video game skills. And yes, they hate watching you play.
Society labels you as losers,nerds or dorks.
You don't get much of any exercise doing it.
You very rarely get any respect unless it's from other nerds.
Everyone talks shit on you.
And your whole claim to fame is in a fictional world.

*waits for bad reputation*

I mean honestly, isn't it time for a reality check. And to consider the fact that you're wasting away your life, when you could be contributing more important things to others and the world. http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47542_emofag_122_893lo.jpg

hamstar
07-24-2007, 12:33 PM
Wow.

I just read through 4 pages of gamers disagreeing with common sense for the sake of disagreeing with it.

fucking unbelievable.

That's why 90% of you will always be losers living with your parents, doing shit jobs and married to a girl you settled for.


The 1st poster just needs to realize you idiots are not worth saving.

Alzarath
07-24-2007, 12:38 PM
:confused:

I just play cuz it's fun... and there's always gonna be ppl talkin shit about you no matter wtf you do, so...

Wow.

I just read through 4 pages of gamers disagreeing with common sense for the sake of disagreeing with it.

fucking unbelievable.

That's why 90% of you will always be losers living with your parents, doing shit jobs and married to a girl you settled for.


The 1st poster just needs to realize you idiots are not worth saving.

W/e you say :>

Bobbypigo
07-24-2007, 12:43 PM
Wow.

I just read through 4 pages of gamers disagreeing with common sense for the sake of disagreeing with it.

fucking unbelievable.

That's why 90% of you will always be losers living with your parents, doing shit jobs and married to a girl you settled for.


The 1st poster just needs to realize you idiots are not worth saving.

. . .you are just as awesome as the guy that started this thread. Are you guys in love?

fjf314
07-24-2007, 12:45 PM
That's why 90% of you will always be losers living with your parents, doing shit jobs and married to a girl you settled for.

Do you actually believe that 90% is accurate or are you just exaggerating? From your post, I honestly couldn't tell.

fishjie
07-24-2007, 03:18 PM
Wow.

I just read through 4 pages of gamers disagreeing with common sense for the sake of disagreeing with it.

fucking unbelievable.

That's why 90% of you will always be losers living with your parents, doing shit jobs and married to a girl you settled for.


The 1st poster just needs to realize you idiots are not worth saving.

haha but this is a gaming forum what do you expect?

like i said in my earlier post, i lol at jobless school-less losers who MMORPG all day long. they've got nothing to show for it at the end of the day except failure. i know a couple of people who are going nowhere in life because WOW/Diablo2/Everquest/insert RPG here ruined them. i know back in the day when i played a game for hours on end, once i was done i'd feel empty inside.

a lot of people get addicted to games and they end up not taking care of other aspects of their life. game addiction is very real and imo it can be worse than other kinds of addictions, such as drugs, because whereas you can only drink heavily for a few hours before passing out, i and others can game literally for entire days and longer and keep going.

moderation is the key to everything, but a lot of people cannot play MMORPGs in moderation because they require you to play huge contiguous chunks of time in a row in order to get the best items.

basically, WOW is horrible and has ruined lives. game addiction is real. maybe the OP was an addicted gamer who ruined his life. that's the vibe i'm getting.

Adam Warlock
07-24-2007, 03:24 PM
Videogames taught me the basics of reading and writing, long before I even started elementary school, and they have also dramatically improved my dexterity and hand-wyw coordination.

I think you need more practice then, chief.

tindiamond
07-24-2007, 03:25 PM
Wow.

I just read through 4 pages of gamers disagreeing with common sense for the sake of disagreeing with it.

fucking unbelievable.

That's why 90% of you will always be losers living with your parents, doing shit jobs and married to a girl you settled for.


The 1st poster just needs to realize you idiots are not worth saving.


Booohoohoo did video games ruin your life like the OP?

The Epidemic
07-24-2007, 03:25 PM
Wow.

I just read through 4 pages of gamers disagreeing with common sense for the sake of disagreeing with it.

fucking unbelievable.

That's why 90% of you will always be losers living with your parents, doing shit jobs and married to a girl you settled for.


The 1st poster just needs to realize you idiots are not worth saving.

stfu :wgrin:

MrBlank
07-24-2007, 04:27 PM
Wow.

I just read through 4 pages of gamers disagreeing with common sense for the sake of disagreeing with it.

fucking unbelievable.

That's why 90% of you will always be losers living with your parents, doing shit jobs and married to a girl you settled for.


The 1st poster just needs to realize you idiots are not worth saving.

Let me tell you about porcupines balls, their small and nobody GIVES A SHIT!!!!

pherai
07-24-2007, 04:39 PM
Wow.

I just read through 4 pages of gamers disagreeing with common sense for the sake of disagreeing with it.

fucking unbelievable.

That's why 90% of you will always be losers living with your parents, doing shit jobs and married to a girl you settled for.


The 1st poster just needs to realize you idiots are not worth saving.

The op doesn't posses any sort of great insight. Any gamer knows they aren't accomplishing anything by playing video games, yet he demonizes gamers as if they are the only example of humanity who spends their time on fruitless endeavours. If someone is a loser at life and plays video games, its likely that halting their gaming won't fix things. It's really just a symptom to the problem. I'd love to know how you and the OP spend every waking moment doing something 100% productive.

Ne0phyte
07-24-2007, 04:44 PM
I think you need more practice then, chief.
I thought that was a joke

jin11
07-24-2007, 05:42 PM
Hobbies are hobbies, some people love gaming and don't think they need the 'outside' world to enjoy life, which is cool if thats what you want.

It reminds me of the thread where someone asked "why clubbing is so popular" and most people here didn't like to 'club' as well. Everyone lives their lives differently, a culture change is something most people wouldn't accept as easily, because everyone loves what they do. Just my 2 cents being a hardcore Tekken player to someone now who really wants to quit fighting games altogether.

scentless
07-24-2007, 05:49 PM
You're wasting your life away on video games?

Be honest with yourself.


Top players don't make that much money from it.
Generally speaking women aren't impressed with video game skills. And yes, they hate watching you play.
Society labels you as losers,nerds or dorks.
You don't get much of any exercise doing it.
You very rarely get any respect unless it's from other nerds.
Everyone talks shit on you.
And your whole claim to fame is in a fictional world.



yeah right, go say that to the starcraft players in korea...

Ephidel
07-24-2007, 06:05 PM
snip

Well, this is message board. A site for street fighter "gamers" and/or fans. Weren't you wasting time just to post that message? Browsing an internet forum that focuses on SF "games" in general?

Don't tell me that shit is different, because if you do maybe it's you that's unbelievable. These threads naturally defeat themselves everytime.

Colt Steele
07-24-2007, 07:03 PM
I don't know that they defeat themselves. The OP posted flame bait and got what he was after. So did the other moron who tried to out-troll the OP.

smacked311
07-24-2007, 07:13 PM
You're wasting your life away on video games?






I mean honestly, isn't it time for a reality check. And to consider the fact that you're wasting away your life, when you could be contributing more important things to others and the world.

like curing aids and ending world hunger?

smacked311
07-24-2007, 07:18 PM
And my avatar is flex wheeler, one of the most symmetrical bodybuilders of the 90s. Truely a legend.

do you know how i know you're gay? you like to look at muscle men.

VruS
07-24-2007, 08:34 PM
not if I'm winning

CoolBlue
07-24-2007, 09:11 PM
I feel that way all the time. I regret all the time I spent on the computer when I was younger. That's why I barely play any games anymore. I used to turn on the computer the moment I wake up and only turn it off before bedtime during holidays.

Yes it's a hobby, something to do for fun. Doesn't mean it can't be a shitty hobby. It doesn't leave you with anything but a bad image to show for your time. If your hobby is playing the guitar or even the piano instead, you will be landing pussy with much more ease. If I played an instrument as much as I played games, I'd be a maestro by now.

Even for sports, which I consider a shitty hobby, is much better than video games. It keeps you fit and might even attract some female attention. Girls will prefer a guy with a tone body wasting hours a day in the basketball court more than a nerd who plays games for the same amount of time.

And games not being lasting does not help. You could show your grandson your stamp collection, tell him short stories you read from books or even bust out a couple of old basketball moves and he'll be impressed. I'm sure he won't give a fuck about your leet MVC2 skills when he's playing Ultimate Fantasy 3 on the microsoft Dreambox 2 when you're 60.

That said, it's difficult to find something you enjoy doing. If you enjoy video games and manage your time well while playing them, it's fine. My point is that there are many things to do in this world and you should explore them to find a better hobby before just settling for video games.

terracotta
07-24-2007, 09:46 PM
yep. with the exception of arcade SF, i stopped gaming 7 years ago.

Kusanagi02
07-24-2007, 10:15 PM
I feel that way all the time. I regret all the time I spent on the computer when I was younger. That's why I barely play any games anymore. I used to turn on the computer the moment I wake up and only turn it off before bedtime during holidays.

Yes it's a hobby, something to do for fun. Doesn't mean it can't be a shitty hobby. It doesn't leave you with anything but a bad image to show for your time. If your hobby is playing the guitar or even the piano instead, you will be landing pussy with much more ease. If I played an instrument as much as I played games, I'd be a maestro by now.

Even for sports, which I consider a shitty hobby, is much better than video games. It keeps you fit and might even attract some female attention. Girls will prefer a guy with a tone body wasting hours a day in the basketball court more than a nerd who plays games for the same amount of time.

And games not being lasting does not help. You could show your grandson your stamp collection, tell him short stories you read from books or even bust out a couple of old basketball moves and he'll be impressed. I'm sure he won't give a fuck about your leet MVC2 skills when he's playing Ultimate Fantasy 3 on the microsoft Dreambox 2 when you're 60.

That said, it's difficult to find something you enjoy doing. If you enjoy video games and manage your time well while playing them, it's fine. My point is that there are many things to do in this world and you should explore them to find a better hobby before just settling for video games.

Video Games leaving a bad image to show for your time...get the fuck out of here with that garbage:rolleyes:. Its a hobby man nothing more nothing less.
I've had girlfriends in the past that knew i play video games and you know what?
They didn't care cause they knew i enjoyed playing it from time to time.

pherai
07-24-2007, 10:26 PM
And games not being lasting does not help. You could show your grandson your stamp collection, tell him short stories you read from books or even bust out a couple of old basketball moves and he'll be impressed. I'm sure he won't give a fuck about your leet MVC2 skills when he's playing Ultimate Fantasy 3 on the microsoft Dreambox 2 when you're 60.

You think your grandson is going to be more interested in your stamp collection or stories from books than talking about video games? I doubt anyone here would listen to their grandfather drone on about stamps or stories they've read out of interest in what they are talking about.

CoolBlue
07-24-2007, 11:20 PM
Well it surely doesn't leave a good image that's for sure. It's good that you allocate your time wisely that it doesn't affect your social life. You're cool enough to negate the bad image. However I'll bet gaming doesn't contribute too much to getting a girlfriend.

As for the stamps, it is just a simple example I can think of. There's no need to attack the point heavily while ignoring the main point of post. Besides, I will sure be more impressed with a guy who collected albums of expensive antique stamps than a guy who's good at a game that died decades ago.

str[e]ak
07-24-2007, 11:43 PM
LOL at the reference to starcraft players in korea.

nonentity, this thread is pointless. were you even thinking when you started it? all of the things that EVERYONE has mentioned, do you honestly think this hasn't crossed our minds at some point? we all know that sitting in front of a screen for hours on end definitely won't help us in the health department, and we all know that sitting there does absolutely nothing for us in the productivity department. but, that's what hobbies and relaxation are for. we want to chill and not be productive. that's why we play the games.

and, unfortunately, i'm going to agree with everyone here. stop whining. if you're going to get like this with all of us, jeez, then do something about it. because, honestly, you're the one who needs the reality check. instead of whining about it on a gaming forum, do something about it. you'll feel better about yourself. unless of course, it blows up in your face.

Kusanagi02
07-24-2007, 11:50 PM
Well it surely doesn't leave a good image that's for sure. It's good that you allocate your time wisely that it doesn't affect your social life. You're cool enough to negate the bad image. However I'll bet gaming doesn't contribute too much to getting a girlfriend.

As for the stamps, it is just a simple example I can think of. There's no need to attack the point heavily while ignoring the main point of post. Besides, I will sure be more impressed with a guy who collected albums of expensive antique stamps than a guy who's good at a game that died decades ago.

Here's the thing though...no one here is using video games to obtain a girlfriend.
I don't think anyone here would let a hobby like playing video games dictate who they are when picking up chicks.

Bobbypigo
07-25-2007, 06:41 AM
Here's the thing though...no one here is using video games to obtain a girlfriend.
I don't think anyone here would let a hobby like playing video games dictate who they are when picking up chicks.

truth. :tup:
Why would anyone blame not getting chicks on video games. In all honesty my problem has been that my girlfriends have always gotten in the way of video games. Id be trying to get down at the arcade on some Street Fighter then damn!, here comes my girl yo!, I gotta leave. :sad:

When I invite team CT for a get together my fiance makes us sandwiches! Thats why shes my fiance. . . so dont give me that garbage about "I dont have a girl cuz I play video games" and "Girls hate video game nerds".
You dont have a girl for other reasons, figure them out and youll be allright and you wont have to create stupid ass threads like this one. :annoy:

SRK addendum:
Sorry Im talking about my girl w/out posting pics but Im at work and dont have any available. I will post them for posterity when I get home.

JackTenrac!
07-25-2007, 07:01 AM
Try again chief.

...fixed!

That threadstarter's not around here. :S

Geese Pants
07-25-2007, 07:28 AM
nawleje

And here I thought winning all my cases on Phoenix Wright would help me pass my Bar exam.......how dumb I be.

I might as well forget beating Expert mode on Guitar Hero 2........since I probably won't get the fame, fortune, drugs, and bitches I've wanted for some time.

I'm going to go home and break my GH guitar in anger and protest........

Jaldaboath
07-25-2007, 10:39 AM
Just you wait, soon this will become a world-wide sport that's gonna be sponsored by MTV, and other companies.

sounds crazy right?



yeah, like everyone else said, that sounds more like a personal issue to me, though their may be some others thay feel the same way.
If you feel that way, then do something about it.


dont confuse this shit with WoW.
WoW is a completely differnt story, and sounds more like what you're getting at.Hmmm...

World of Warcraft players to be featured in MTV's True Life (http://wow.qj.net/World-of-Warcraft-players-to-be-featured-in-MTV-s-True-Life/pg/49/aid/98355)
World of Warcraft players, here's you and your avatar's chance to be featured on MTV.

MTV True Life is looking for players aged 16 to 28 to feature in a showcase about how the MMORPG has affected their lives. Here's their pitch:


MTV True Life is doing a documentary for the series True Life about you in the virtual world. We want to see you and your avatars. Does your virtual avatar make you feel confident behind your computer screen? Is there something interesting or unique about your life online? Are you able to lead hundreds of people in World of Warcraft but find yourself shy in real life? Did you meet your significant other online? Is your online avatar completely different from who you are in real life? If so, we would love to hear your story.

MTV True Life is a series that follows unique and varied subcultures. Interested folk can head on over to the Read link below to get more details on requirements and submission locations. This will be another one of World of Warcraft's television events after the CBS battle event on July 29.

I wonder...


World of Warcraft on CBS Sports (http://wow.qj.net/World-of-Warcraft-on-CBS-Sports/pg/49/aid/97959)

On July 29, CBS will be showing some of the best World of Warcraft teams in North America battle it out in 3v3 PvP at 12pm ET or 9AM PT. Among the teams featured will be Team Pandemic, Insurrection, Mob TurtlePower, and fnatic.

This hour-long special is the network television debut of WoW. This event is being held as part of The World Series of Video Games where players compete for the whopping US$ 90,000 prize pot. This is the perfect time for other competitive WoW players to sit down and take notes on the strategies being employed by the top teams in the nation.

So will Team Pandemic walk away as the champion of the WoW arena, or will a new team be taking that title from them? We'll have to wait and see how this pans out. If you're a fan of WoW PvP, then you really should watch this event and pick up a few pointers. Before you go, be sure to check out the commercial for the event below.

Still, a shame other gaming communities (like these here these fighting boards) didn't reach this status (mainly this has been because Blizzard having a God-tier marketing department)

Mr. Swamp
07-25-2007, 10:40 AM
And here I thought winning all my cases on Phoenix Wright would help me pass my Bar exam.......how dumb I be.

I might as well forget beating Expert mode on Guitar Hero 2........since I probably won't get the fame, fortune, drugs, and bitches I've wanted for some time.

I'm going to go home and break my GH guitar in anger and protest........

Phoenix Wright helps you w/ catching people in lies QUICK, and Guitar Hero helps w/ your timing (when playing other musical instruments).

Gaming isn't a waste of time; it's just a way to relax and relieve stress. Because of violent games, crime rates have decreased. Because of music/extreme sports games, people have gotten into a wider range of music and Because of fighting games, people have become more aware of advance strategies, mind games, and character tier list.

From everyone's perspective, I can see now that it's based on the [amount of time] spent on playing video games. If that's the case, then people have to realize how they manage their time, and change it accordingly based upon the outcome they'd like to reach. If you want to be better w/ women, spend more time flirting and hanging out w/ guys who are good at it. If you want to place high at an upcoming tournament, then spend more time training/watching youtube videos, etc., and/or if you want to make more money, spend more time at work/working.

Just some food for thought...