The make your own comic/find srk talent thread

[maxx]

Well, i'm designing this thread to be an a sorta art thread..yes we have an art forum. But i feel people in the comic thread will be more comic oriented which this is for. Building your own comic and finding local talent to make it.

I am myself admist a comic project myself...currently designing and writing a fighting comic. It will obviously be an indpendant project...i haven't seen an pure american comic tackle fighting comic format since battle gods which was 2000. I have a few unique ideas and i will be posting up some artwork within the week...if im not too lazy tonight.

i believe our comic mod is also an artist..id like to see some artwork...and hopefully the guy who i pmed a while back about his tatoo posts in here...dude has real talent. and a style i really dig.

[Sano]

Stuff I posted in other thread. The mini-manga reads from right to left.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Sanosuperstar1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Sanosuperstar2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Sanosuperstar3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Sanosuperstar4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Sanosuperstar5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Sanosuperstar6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Sanosuperstar7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Sanosuperstar8.jpg

My comic strip I had printed in Free Comics NY. Soon to be published in Dirty Trails magazine, I just don't know when exactly.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED14.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED15.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/CED16.jpg

I'm doing another strip story for a small magazine now. I'll toss up some more fan art whenever I stop being lazy and get around to scanning more stuff.

[goodm0urning]

How convenient. I am developing and writing a number of projects that I intend on drawing in due course, and I am also planning on embarking on McCloud's 24 Hour Comic Challenge (http://www.24hourcomics.com/dare.html) this weekend. Perhaps I will soon have something to post in this thread.

[WasFemto]

I need to get off my ass and start doing shit instead of doing it in my head. Of course my shit is too me too. In the sense I want to knock-off the Japanese by emulating their magazines like Young Animal, Big Comic Spirits, Young Jump and Buisness Jump.

[Khaotika!]

I went to fucking school to do this, but I don't have a lot to show for it.

http://khaotika.deviantart.com/

Used to have my own website with more artwork, but I took it down because I'd stopped updating. That stuff on DevArt is old, like 1998-2000 old. I've gotten a lot better, just not productive-wise. :lol:

I've been working on 4 different comic series in some form for about 10 years now. Each one's still under development; character design, plotting, scripting, tying everything up. I don't know what to do about it, other than try to get it online somehow.

[Wellman]

I can't draw but I can write and conceptualize. So basically I am useless for this thread.



Hi Mom.

[Zephyranthes]

Did you hear about Zuda Comics? DC's new online comics thing which gives underground people a chance. I don't really know too much about it but if you are serious that is probably something to look into.

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I can't draw but I can write and conceptualize. So basically I am useless for this thread.
Hi Mom.

If you can post on shoryuken, I am sure you are good enough for DC and Marvel. I'd read a comic you wrote. Hi.

[Are_you_okay?!]

I'm in the process of getting my comic idea off the ground. Once I get the rest of my education I'll go to a writing college and see what I can do from there. Only problem I have is how to "Break in" to the comic scene. I have a bunch of scripts down that I need to finalize, I could post some of it on here once I get a full one done.

As I can't draw for the life of me I can't provide images, I had a guy interested in doing some who's currently in an art college, he say's on a regular basis people from Marvel, DC, etc. come looking for new people, which would be great.

I would really like this comic under the Image name, since I can't see it in either Marvel or DC (If I had to choose one of those, Marvel most likely).

[maxx]

marvel has a specific image quality a type of comics they generally allow to be under their name. It's probably easier to start as an indepedant and make a name for yourself through grassroots campaign and once you build a fanbase and a lil recognition, it makes it easier to talk to the bigger companies.

[Are_you_okay?!]

Yeah, I would like full creative control of what I make, why I want to go with Image or another independent source. Once I have an artist, that is lol.

[maxx]

ok this is "fighters of duelist kingdom post" I'm going to slowly be adding character designs and notes.

championship belt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/maxx00x/fodk/championshipbelt.gif

[Are_you_okay?!]

ok this is "fighters of duelist kingdom post" I'm going to slowly be adding character designs and notes.

championship belt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/maxx00x/fodk/championshipbelt.gif


Looks interesting, did you draw it? Nice art style, very good. I'd be interested in reading it.

I'm working on a superhero one, kind of a street level comic with humor.

[maxx]

Looks interesting, did you draw it? Nice art style, very good. I'd be interested in reading it.

I'm working on a superhero one, kind of a street level comic with humor.

ya i drew it and then went into illustrator and used livetraced. I modeled it after the k1 max belt. http://www.boxingbar.com/site/img/foto/k1belt.jpg

i want to get the guy who's pretty much been my comic mentor since i was 16 to work wit me on it. but sadly he's admist a divorce..so it probably wont happen for a while. he's the only other artist who can truly understand fighting comics.

check out his stuff http://project450.com

i'm inking up one of the boxers right now and will post him in the fodk post.

[Are_you_okay?!]

Fighting comics were always interesting to me. Mine will have a lot of brawling involved, since my guy is basically an invulnerable strong man with a bad history lol.

It's good to work with what you like and know, I look forward to seeing some more stuff. If I can find a decent artist I'll get some stuff up.

[maxx]

my plot starts off the usual fighting game plot..multibillionaire holds an international martial arts tournament on a distant location. But as per usual their is something more to the tournament. It will be different in the plot..and as well as its a 3 man team comic. Which i'm a bit worried it may get convulated..cause 3 man teams involve alot of characters...their will be mma fighters, japanese pro wrestlers, luchadores,tkd artists,regular old street fighters...and then their will be some match ups i've always wanted to see such as capoeira vs breakdancing, mma vs prowrestling, and a few others as the series and characters develop.

I want the tournament to just be part 1 in a 3 part saga. and if it can really take off of course i want to do sumtin crazy like an ova and tv series and video game.

[Are_you_okay?!]

I would like to see a fighting tournament that actually get's finished, in a lot of media something happens to fuck it up and it never is completed which peeves me.

You have any characters so far that are mostly done?

[Zephyranthes]

What exactly do you guys mean by "fighting comics"? You mean like the Street Fighter comic and comics based on fighting games? And manga type stuff like Dragon Ball or something?

[goodm0urning]

I wouldn't even bother thinking about hooking up with DC or Marvel. Their talent pool these days is almost 100% incestuous. They very, very, very rarely accept new, unproven talent. You'd have better luck getting struck by lightning.

Fortunately, as has been mentioned, there are many smaller houses--Dark Horse, for example--that are more interested in acquiring fresh talent. Also, with the advent of the Internet, self-publishing became a hell of a lot easier and cheaper (this has its drawbacks, of course). It's a very good time to get into comics... as long as you're not heart-set on DC or Marvel.

What exactly do you guys mean by "fighting comics"? You mean like the Street Fighter comic and comics based on fighting games? And manga type stuff like Dragon Ball or something?I was wondering that myself. I figured they meant martial arts-based action comics.

[maxx]

What exactly do you guys mean by "fighting comics"? You mean like the Street Fighter comic and comics based on fighting games? And manga type stuff like Dragon Ball or something?

fighting comics honestly is a genre in itself...dragon ball, yuyu hakusho tenjoue tenge ect...

no its not a fighting game..my idea is 100% original..may take elements from others but its original. Not based on street fighter not based on a game.

if i could i'd build a whole company based on fighting comics.

goodm0urning: i specifically said fighting comics..cuz martial arts fighting means it has martial arts but their are styles not considered martial arts such as boxing and wrestling

[Rage02fire]

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Your acting Elitilist to be only having fighting stories in on this.

You do need more than just that to be a writer of comics max.... (you should know this)

Gotta understand all of the generas....

Me I'll have fighting in my stuff indeed but I'd rather portray my stuff as Action and Adventure stories then just fight all day. The reason of this is to get more fans interested, if you only have fighting stories most fans will just be one group of the big crowd of fans that the industry has.

I'm just saying it'd be more fun if you mix it up a little bit with some other shit going down.

[Yasashiyama]

I'm also a lazy artist! Who knew?!

I'll try to scan something tomorrow to show some of my style. It's 2 AM now so now I got an excuse to be tired. :lol:

Edit: I'll also subscribe to this thread to keep my eye out.

[maxx]

Your acting Elitilist to be only having fighting stories in on this.

You do need more than just that to be a writer of comics max.... (you should know this)

Gotta understand all of the generas....

Me I'll have fighting in my stuff indeed but I'd rather portray my stuff as Action and Adventure stories then just fight all day. The reason of this is to get more fans interested, if you only have fighting stories most fans will just be one group of the big crowd of fans that the industry has.

I'm just saying it'd be more fun if you mix it up a little bit with some other shit going down.

lol i haven't told you all the details of the story nor if i'm potentially building a story that is gonna be different than whats been laid in the past. i'm not gonna reveal it all. I'm only giving you guys a small sample, like i said before if i didnt mention it...the tournament is one aspect in a 3 saga story.

vol. 1(the tournament) i imagine this as 24-28 issues

vol.2 (what happens after the tournament), this will be an adventure aspect.

vol.3 side stories..fill ins for what was missing in vol. 1 and 2...rather than how mangas do it where they interrupt the flow of issues and break it up with fillins to do backstory or tenjoe tenge which have volumes for backstories but breakk up the flow..this will be at the end.

I can't lay all my cards out on srk....aiign't having you fools steal my ideas. I've been reading comics since i was 6 and talking to writers and artists about my stuff since i was 14. I defintly know what i'm doing when i gear my stuff up...the only piece missing is an artist and i know exactly what kinda artist i want. Someone who does animation and comics...they understand the fluidity of things..like my boy steve valdez..his art even if its a stand alone pinup..it has a flow to it..it almost seems like you can see it moving. Lesean thomas also has this skill.

I don't think in panels i think in animation style...everything moves in my head when i write it out. Which also makes it easier if it were to happen to translate to animation/film since thats how i think. I have no idea if all writers think this way...but i do.

also i don't get how i'm elitist..because its how i wanna write my story. It's just something i love and love to read and so i would believe their are others out there like me. It doesn't mean its gonna be the only style i ever do in my life..but if i could i would like to start a company around that genre, it wouldn't be the only one but in the beginning thats my ideal situation. Being elitist means i'm not open to other ideas....lol...i am.

[Yasashiyama]

Actually here's some of my stuff that I found. They're as old as half a year to about 3 months old.

I'll post up some new stuff soon. :)

My oldest stuff I could find currently. About 2-3 years old. Pics of my assignments I did for my drawing class at MDC:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/Picture053.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/Picture054.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/Picture052.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/Picture051.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/Picture050.jpg

Did these when I worked for a blood bank. 8 hours of calling did this to me:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/11.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/6.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/10.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/9.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/8.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/7.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/3.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/5.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/2.jpg

Static Shock:Mangafied
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/s.jpg

When I ran out of ideas...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/Runing_Out_Of_Ideas__by_pencilknigh.jpg

Fairly recent during my spring semester at MDC:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/dfgghtd.jpg

[Rage02fire]

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Nah Nah you got me wrong, I was calling you elitilist for only doing a company that only does fighting comics. I think you should instead have a company for writers or artists that are compassionate to their work and not just doing the damn job for a paycheck.

For real though if you like that genera do it then man but don't just have a company or group that dedicates only to that genera. There's alot of fresh ideals from the others as well.

P.S. If I succeed in my major and feel I'm ready to write comics I'm going into your company if that's okay with you sir?

[Wellman]

lol i haven't told you all the details of the story nor if i'm potentially building a story that is gonna be different than whats been laid in the past. i'm not gonna reveal it all. I'm only giving you guys a small sample, like i said before if i didnt mention it...the tournament is one aspect in a 3 saga story.

vol. 1(the tournament) i imagine this as 24-28 issues

vol.2 (what happens after the tournament), this will be an adventure aspect.

vol.3 side stories..fill ins for what was missing in vol. 1 and 2...rather than how mangas do it where they interrupt the flow of issues and break it up with fillins to do backstory or tenjoe tenge which have volumes for backstories but breakk up the flow..this will be at the end.

I can't lay all my cards out on srk....aiign't having you fools steal my ideas. I've been reading comics since i was 6 and talking to writers and artists about my stuff since i was 14. I defintly know what i'm doing when i gear my stuff up...the only piece missing is an artist and i know exactly what kinda artist i want. Someone who does animation and comics...they understand the fluidity of things..like my boy steve valdez..his art even if its a stand alone pinup..it has a flow to it..it almost seems like you can see it moving. Lesean thomas also has this skill.

I don't think in panels i think in animation style...everything moves in my head when i write it out. Which also makes it easier if it were to happen to translate to animation/film since thats how i think. I have no idea if all writers think this way...but i do.

also i don't get how i'm elitist..because its how i wanna write my story. It's just something i love and love to read and so i would believe their are others out there like me. It doesn't mean its gonna be the only style i ever do in my life..but if i could i would like to start a company around that genre, it wouldn't be the only one but in the beginning thats my ideal situation. Being elitist means i'm not open to other ideas....lol...i am.

Honestly from that description, I keep thinking you should talk to Skottie Young. His stuff always makes me wonder how it would look animated because of his style. He used to do some of Marvel Mangaverse Spiderman books and most recently, he has been doing art for New X-Men's current story arc.

Of course getting him is an entirely different matter. Skottie Young (http://skottieyoung.blogspot.com/)

Did you hear about Zuda Comics? DC's new online comics thing which gives underground people a chance. I don't really know too much about it but if you are serious that is probably something to look into.

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If you can post on shoryuken, I am sure you are good enough for DC and Marvel. I'd read a comic you wrote. Hi.


Thanks, Zeph if I ever get anything published remind me to give you a free copy.

[maxx]

Nah Nah you got me wrong, I was calling you elitilist for only doing a company that only does fighting comics. I think you should instead have a company for writers or artists that are compassionate to their work and not just doing the damn job for a paycheck.

For real though if you like that genera do it then man but don't just have a company or group that dedicates only to that genera. There's alot of fresh ideals from the others as well.

P.S. If I succeed in my major and feel I'm ready to write comics I'm going into your company if that's okay with you sir?

haha your welcome aboard dude.I probably am gonna start out with just a studio at first...haha looks like we got two writers at least for the studio.

Honestly from that description, I keep thinking you should talk to Skottie Young. His stuff always makes me wonder how it would look animated because of his style. He used to do some of Marvel Mangaverse Spiderman books and most recently, he has been doing art for New X-Men's current story arc.

Of course getting him is an entirely different matter. Skottie Young (http://skottieyoung.blogspot.com/)



ya i've grown up on skotties work....his style wouldn't translate well for what i wanna do...the conception i have in my head just doesn't look good with his style.

but this does:
http://project450.com/sketch/skbk-06222007-02.jpg
http://project450.com/sketch/KEN_MASTERS.swf
http://project450.com/sketch/skbk-06272007.jpg

the last he actually took from a street fighter pixel and did it up sf:hd style.

[Bob Poundmax]

I like the idea of this thread, but Does copying other poeple's stuff(whom you like of course) really help you out when you first start out? I have a shitload of ideas but the get lost in the translation to paper.

[bill_rizer]

I can't lay all my cards out on srk....aiign't having you fools steal my ideas. to other ideas....lol...i am

LOL his right, I mean look what happened to the guys that Originally came up with facebook, that programmer they hired took their Idea and made it his own, totaly screwed them over and we know how popular facebook is now, while the other guys have another site that has far less memebers.

Of course they were friends at the time but money does funny things to people.

I know thats not a comic example but shit like that happens in ever medium.

I would advise before you guys get your comics out in public you go see a lawyer espeically if your sigining contracts because you dont wanna get screwed, I was told this by Helen McCarthy herself when she was in my town.

People might seem nice but dont buy into the men in suits.

Also defently get you stuff copyrighted and stuff.

Not saying your ideas might be huge or anything but you never know, better to cover your ass in case.

I like the idea of this thread, but Does copying other poeple's stuff(whom you like of course) really help you out when you first start out? I have a shitload of ideas but the get lost in the translation to paper.

What do you mean by copy exactly?

If you mean inspire you then no problem, if you mean their art style no problem, If you mean straight up copy their designs and characters then hell no, if you do that they will try suing you or someshit.

I had a problem like that many years ago, I drawed this character for a guy that he cameup with ages ago, however I put that design up on my site I failed to mention his name anywhere, I wasnt taking credit for the idea it was just to show my art, anyway he went mad next time I seen him he wanted to fight me no joke, pretty sure if other peps went around we would have, anyway that taught me a big lesson, you want to be real careful when you use the word copy.

I have some ideas for a comic wanted to get my art skills up first because I suck lol, its way off yet just in my head kinda thing but I have a good idea where Im going with it, probably wont be till next year till I get it going.

any of you used lulu? I was thinking of using that for my printing base, they sound pretty good.

[specs]

As a professional technical writer and grammar nazi, I'd be willing to look over and touch up any writing done in anybody's comics. A far off dream of mine is to learn how to draw well and make my own comics, so I gotta start somewhere, right? :rofl:

If anyone's interested, PM me.

[maxx]

LOL his right, I mean look what happened to the guys that Originally came up with facebook, that programmer they hired took their Idea and made it his own, totaly screwed them over and we know how popular facebook is now, while the other guys have another site that has far less memebers.

Of course they were friends at the time but money does funny things to people.

I know thats not a comic example but shit like that happens in ever medium.

I would advise before you guys get your comics out in public you go see a lawyer espeically if your sigining contracts because you dont wanna get screwed, I was told this by Helen McCarthy herself when she was in my town.

People might seem nice but dont buy into the men in suits.

Also defently get you stuff copyrighted and stuff.

Not saying your ideas might be huge or anything but you never know, better to cover your ass in case.



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thats the wonderful thing about the internet..once it hits the net..its automatically copyrighted. Now i wont actually post my ideas online..i got my notebooks for that..but i will post some of the designs...i'm thinking of starting a blog or lj purely based on this comic and it's progression. But ya i've been looking into how you copyright characters and learned, that the old myth is true once you post it online its automatically copyrighted. Cause everything has its own upload date so its easy to prove if you uploaded sumtin earlier than say someone else. As well as their are tons of art organizations out there who are willing to help protect your rights as an artist/writer.

though writing seems sumtin a lil hard to protect...hence why my writing is staying in my notebooks.

[Bob Poundmax]

What do you mean by copy exactly?

If you mean inspire you then no problem, if you mean their art style no problem, If you mean straight up copy their designs and characters then hell no, if you do that they will try suing you or someshit.

I had a problem like that many years ago, I drawed this character for a guy that he cameup with ages ago, however I put that design up on my site I failed to mention his name anywhere, I wasnt taking credit for the idea it was just to show my art, anyway he went mad next time I seen him he wanted to fight me no joke, pretty sure if other peps went around we would have, anyway that taught me a big lesson, you want to be real careful when you use the word copy.

I have some ideas for a comic wanted to get my art skills up first because I suck lol, its way off yet just in my head kinda thing but I have a good idea where Im going with it, probably wont be till next year till I get it going.

any of you used lulu? I was thinking of using that for my printing base, they sound pretty good.

No no no I meant for practicing purposes. No I wouldnt dare stealing someone else's shit because I had my shit stolen before so I know how that feels.

[maxx]

No no no I meant for practicing purposes. No I wouldnt dare stealing someone else's shit because I had my shit stolen before so I know how that feels.

well i dunno if you meant artwise or writing wise..for art at least we all start out copying someone else's style. It helps to understand how to design figures and just getting started in art.

I was a dbz fucking whore...i mean i bowed at the altar of akira toryama. But as i developed i've developed my own style of art...though i am influenced..i don't straight rip anymore. it also helps to get you to understand an exagerrated form of anatomy...to truly understand that you gotta draw from life and see the different types and builds of people.

All greats have to start from somewhere...i've seen some old lesean stuff that was clearly jim lee influenced..he hadn't found his voice yet. It doesnt seem like he did til he started doing animation.

[Bowling Pin]

my plot starts off the usual fighting game plot..multibillionaire holds an international martial arts tournament on a distant location. But as per usual their is something more to the tournament. It will be different in the plot..and as well as its a 3 man team comic.

I want the tournament to just be part 1 in a 3 part saga. and if it can really take off of course i want to do sumtin crazy like an ova and tv series and video game.

So you're basically going to do King of Enter the Dragon: The Comic.

fighting comics honestly is a genre in itself...dragon ball, yuyu hakusho tenjoue tenge ect...

no its not a fighting game..my idea is 100% original..may take elements from others but its original. Not based on street fighter not based on a game.

if i could i'd build a whole company based on fighting comics.

goodm0urning: i specifically said fighting comics..cuz martial arts fighting means it has martial arts but their are styles not considered martial arts such as boxing and wrestling

Dragon Ball was originally comedy/action. Yu Yu Hakusho was originally fantasy/comedy. Tenjou Tenge is just cheesecake. The point is, which features nothing but fighting cannot in anyway be good. For one thing, flipping through a 24 page comic book in under five minutes because the entire issue consisted of guys hitting each other is nearly a waste of the three bucks the reader plunked down to read it. Secondly, if the action is going to be the main pull for the story, you've already set yourself up for failure.

In comics especially, characterization and dialogue are equally important. I've seen comics succeed when telling a great story coupled with dynamic action sequences, and I've seen comics succeed based on telling a great story alone. But I've never seen a comic take off based on its action sequences alone.

What, precisely, about your idea is so original? You have a martial arts tournament where entrants must form teams of three. The tournament host is a billionaire. The tournament is a ruse. You have culled everything in this idea so far from KOF.

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I can't lay all my cards out on srk....aiign't having you fools steal my ideas.

No thanks bro, I'm good.

I don't think in panels i think in animation style...everything moves in my head when i write it out. Which also makes it easier if it were to happen to translate to animation/film since thats how i think. I have no idea if all writers think this way...but i do.

Then don't write for comics. Write a spec script for animation. Otherwise, if you're unable to think about how the story is presented on the page, you've now burdened your artist with even more work, and your story will be all the more filtered through his interpretation of your work. With comics, you have to be clear and concise when writing, or you should otherwise just hang it up.

[maxx]

So you're basically going to do King of Enter the Dragon: The Comic.



Dragon Ball was originally comedy/action. Yu Yu Hakusho was originally fantasy/comedy. Tenjou Tenge is just cheesecake. The point is, which features nothing but fighting cannot in anyway be good. For one thing, flipping through a 24 page comic book in under five minutes because the entire issue consisted of guys hitting each other is nearly a waste of the three bucks the reader plunked down to read it. Secondly, if the action is going to be the main pull for the story, you've already set yourself up for failure.

In comics especially, characterization and dialogue are equally important. I've seen comics succeed when telling a great story coupled with dynamic action sequences, and I've seen comics succeed based on telling a great story alone. But I've never seen a comic take off based on its action sequences alone.

What, precisely, about your idea is so original? You have a martial arts tournament where entrants must form teams of three. The tournament host is a billionaire. The tournament is a ruse. You have culled everything in this idea so far from KOF.



No thanks bro, I'm good.



Then don't write for comics. Write a spec script for animation. Otherwise, if you're unable to think about how the story is presented on the page, you've now burdened your artist with even more work, and your story will be all the more filtered through his interpretation of your work. With comics, you have to be clear and concise when writing, or you should otherwise just hang it up.

i'm not gonna reply to every point, nor do i need to. I'm doing my own thing...your not really ruining anyones dreams cuz i don't care what your opinion is. Nothing you point out is going to make me change my views. I'm not writing comics for a big company like marvel. So i don't have to change my views or thinking. I'm writing a comic thats gonna be made by me and some friends. Nor am i going to write an animation script..why when its meant to be a comic. I'd be working with likened thinking artist...i know of artists who have the same thinking as i do.

Haven't you guys noticed the recent uprising in art styles that are more akin to animation? or style of paneling that is like animation? Its a trend thats gonna keep going.

like i said only the beginning part of the saga is cliche'd. It's the middle and after the tournament things get interesting. But like i said thats really all i need to put down right here on srk.

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Anyways...i'm interested in getting together with some srk people trying to get into the industry. Possibly forming some kind of group...try to push eachother to advance ourselves to get into the industry. Would any fellow writers/artist be interested in doing something like that?

[Sano]

Friendly neighborhood mod trying to mind his own business...

I'm not directing this at any one person in particular. Please keep the gloves on - like everyone has been doing so far for the most part - is all that I'm asking. Thanks. Carry on...

Oh yeah I think I have some SF related stuff lying around on the net somewhere I can toss up so this post can just be 90% annoying instead of 100%....

[jettmanas]

I'm so out of touch w/fighting games, but starting to dig the Udon SF work.

I've worked in animation a while & had a 4-pg story I wrote, drew & published & in a compilation comic sold down in San Diego some years back. I think all the books are gone so I can post a page for the heck of it-

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7426/wildbraincomixji9.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wildbraincomixji9.jpg)

I'm finishing my first webcomic in Flash right now & hope to get it to print somehow.

Here's my leads for when I'm done:

http://www.lulu.com/
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/

I'd be happy to do some art. Fighting or non. Even a fighting comic needs parts without fighting, which I'd dig even more. Especially for a nominal sum.:wonder:

[maxx]

Friendly neighborhood mod trying to mind his own business...

I'm not directing this at any one person in particular. Please keep the gloves on - like everyone has been doing so far for the most part - is all that I'm asking. Thanks. Carry on...

Oh yeah I think I have some SF related stuff lying around on the net somewhere I can toss up so this post can just be 90% annoying instead of 100%....

haha sounds good.

some logo ideas i was messing with...not 100% for the group i'm forming. I'm also bringing in some of my college graphic design friends since we're also like minded people. just was messing with illustrator.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/maxx00x/union1.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/maxx00x/union2.gif

[Sano]

I like the second logo better than the first one. :tup:

[Sano]

For fun I drew Ryu and Chun-Li's bastard son lol! I named him Tonbo, Japanese for dragonfly. I colored it in later on but I never got around to scanning that. I think I reversed the image too and changed it up a bit, don't remember too much. It's just another thing I have to remember to scan at some point. This is back when the art forum had a create a SF character contest. Lol who did you think I was gonna create? :rofl:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Tonbo2.jpg

This is Chun-Li fighting against Twelve who is X.C.O.P.Y.ing AKA imitating Ryu.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Chun-LiVs.jpg

And this is that scientist Studio Udon uses all of the time for their SF comics lol!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/Scientist.jpg

Give me a few weeks and I'll scan some more stuff. I have an older comic strip story too.

[goodm0urning]

My 24 hour comic stopped at ten pages because I got diarrhea at, like, 7:00 AM. I just figured I'd let everybody know how it turned out.

[Zephyranthes]

You mean you didn't continue drawing while you were on the toilet? I am disappointed. Anyway, the rest of us would like to see what you came up with.

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maxx- I also like the second logo more. Except I don't like the z at the end of "gunz". I think words look nicer when they're spelled correctly.

About the whole cliche thing- Almost any plot these days is cliched, or influenced by something. I think it's okay if a story starts out kind of cliched as long as it quickly moves forward and shows that it's not entirely contrived. Execution of ideas matters a lot. All the little nuances of characterization and setting- that's the kind of stuff that helps to sell a story, even if it starts with the same premise as a billion other stories out there. I do think B. Pinny made some excellent points in his post.

[maxx]

You mean you didn't continue drawing while you were on the toilet? I am disappointed. Anyway, the rest of us would like to see what you came up with.

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maxx- I also like the second logo more. Except I don't like the z at the end of "gunz". I think words look nicer when they're spelled correctly.

About the whole cliche thing- Almost any plot these days is cliched, or influenced by something. I think it's okay if a story starts out kind of cliched as long as it quickly moves forward and shows that it's not entirely contrived. Execution of ideas matters a lot. All the little nuances of characterization and setting- that's the kind of stuff that helps to sell a story, even if it starts with the same premise as a billion other stories out there. I do think B. Pinny made some excellent points in his post.

i used the z because i was worried about copyright infringement. i remember marvel had a lil young guns program running for 2 years promoting up and coming talent and marvel likes to copyright everything....even the word superhero. As well as their was a rap crew called young guns. so i assumed one of those mofos would have it copyrighted.

[goodm0urning]

You mean you didn't continue drawing while you were on the toilet? I am disappointed. Anyway, the rest of us would like to see what you came up with.I will try to get it scanned soon.

I had to cut the project short. Diarrhea ruled out the use of caffeine, and without caffeine, I passed out in pretty short order. I thought about finishing the project at a later date, but I'm afraid the energy has gone out of it.

I handpicked my idea specifically for the 24 hour comic, because I feel it's a story that is best told in one long marathon session. It (please don't laugh) is an attempt to trace time from the beginning of the universe to present day. I got as far as the formation of the galactic clouds, and that's when my bowels rebelled against me.

[Bowling Pin]

i'm not gonna reply to every point, nor do i need to. I'm doing my own thing...your not really ruining anyones dreams cuz i don't care what your opinion is.

Which is exactly why you just replied to it, and were so hurt by said opinions that you actually thought I was out to "ruin your dreams" when it's clear the intent was anything but. By all means get into comics, but you have to realize something now:

What is going to be the motivation for you and your artist?

Answering what motivates you is going to be easy. You have a story and you want to share it. If you didn't want to share it, you wouldn't bother putting it on paper or having an artist draw it. You'd just keep it in your head. You wanting to put it down on paper and turn it into a reality? That's you wanting to share it with the world, if not even one person.

But how about your artist? What will he have at stake when rendering your characters, dialogue and fight scenes? Why should he bother? One reason is that he's also invested some input into the story and likes it so much that he also wants to bring it to life. Another reason could be that he wants to put comic pages in his portfolio. Yet another could be that you're paying him.

In other words, you need to lose your self-righteous attitude right now, because you have to give your baby up to an artist to draw it, and you need to give him a good reason.

Anyways...i'm interested in getting together with some srk people trying to get into the industry. Possibly forming some kind of group...try to push eachother to advance ourselves to get into the industry. Would any fellow writers/artist be interested in doing something like that?If this really is your intention, then you fucked up. I'm a writer/artist, I gave you constructive criticism, and then you shot me down. You said earlier that you didn't want to compromise your erratic vision for your story, and didn't have to because you weren't writing for a big publisher. Now you want to enter the industry? It's one or the other, man. If you want to enter the industry, you'll be encountering guys a hundred times harsher than me, for good reason - comics are their livelihoods. You know all the best creators? Lee, Kirby, Ditko, Eisner? Comics put food on their table. When how well their art is received determines whether or not you can feed your family tonight, you better believe that's a motivator to get your shit together.

Your synopsis for your story turned me off. The first thing you need to do is somehow figure out how to make at least an overview of your story sound interesting. Remember, the synopsis you're going to use to attract any potential artists has to be clear enough to understand, concise enough to understand quickly, and exciting enough to want to learn more. If you want to get into the industry, you need to learn how to be a good salesman, because that's exactly what you're going to be doing - selling yourself and your ideas. You tried to sell everyone reading this thread on your story. I told you I didn't like it. What you should have done was show me an example of why your story's worth following - what you did was tell me to fuck myself.

It's fine to treat anonymous posters on the internet like this, but if you think you can treat your collaborators or potential investors like this, you should hang it up and not quit your day job.

Edit: Somewhat unrelated to the discussion at hand, but Sano's art is charming. You should post in Fan Art.

[maxx]

Which is exactly why you just replied to it, and were so hurt by said opinions that you actually thought I was out to "ruin your dreams" when it's clear the intent was anything but. By all means get into comics, but you have to realize something now:

What is going to be the motivation for you and your artist?

Answering what motivates you is going to be easy. You have a story and you want to share it. If you didn't want to share it, you wouldn't bother putting it on paper or having an artist draw it. You'd just keep it in your head. You wanting to put it down on paper and turn it into a reality? That's you wanting to share it with the world, if not even one person.

But how about your artist? What will he have at stake when rendering your characters, dialogue and fight scenes? Why should he bother? One reason is that he's also invested some input into the story and likes it so much that he also wants to bring it to life. Another reason could be that he wants to put comic pages in his portfolio. Yet another could be that you're paying him.

In other words, you need to lose your self-righteous attitude right now, because you have to give your baby up to an artist to draw it, and you need to give him a good reason.

If this really is your intention, then you fucked up. I'm a writer/artist, I gave you constructive criticism, and then you shot me down. You said earlier that you didn't want to compromise your erratic vision for your story, and didn't have to because you weren't writing for a big publisher. Now you want to enter the industry? It's one or the other, man. If you want to enter the industry, you'll be encountering guys a hundred times harsher than me, for good reason - comics are their livelihoods. You know all the best creators? Lee, Kirby, Ditko, Eisner? Comics put food on their table. When how well their art is received determines whether or not you can feed your family tonight, you better believe that's a motivator to get your shit together.

Your synopsis for your story turned me off. The first thing you need to do is somehow figure out how to make at least an overview of your story sound interesting. Remember, the synopsis you're going to use to attract any potential artists has to be clear enough to understand, concise enough to understand quickly, and exciting enough to want to learn more. If you want to get into the industry, you need to learn how to be a good salesman, because that's exactly what you're going to be doing - selling yourself and your ideas. You tried to sell everyone reading this thread on your story. I told you I didn't like it. What you should have done was show me an example of why your story's worth following - what you did was tell me to fuck myself.

It's fine to treat anonymous posters on the internet like this, but if you think you can treat your collaborators or potential investors like this, you should hang it up and not quit your day job.

Edit: Somewhat unrelated to the discussion at hand, but Sano's art is charming. You should post in Fan Art.
i'm done replying to you. i'm moving on.

[coco_j]

Shizzle, this is a really good thread. Got plenty of ideas I need to show you guys. This post is just a reminder to myself to get some shit done.

Oh and to Maxx, very interested in your idea man. Post up some shit asap.

Edit: I want in on this group.

[bill_rizer]

lol well looks like maxx wont be getting Bowling Pin a christmas card this year.

[DS]

Damn, Bowling Pin beasted. But in the long run, he did speak truth. I wasn't gonna say anything about maxx's story, but I guess Bowling Pin had the same thought process as me. I mean shit, if you can't take constructive criticism, then why bother posting up your idea? Welcome to the internet. Hell, welcome to SRK.

I mean, it's cool to have an idea for a comic book and whatnot, but by no means is your idea all that original. You're taking too many elements from fighting games.

I remember reading this article in Wizard back in 1997 about how to get into the industry. It basically summarized how hard it is to get into the industry. Whether it be small press or the big two(DC and Marvel, hell even Image). It's not easy at all. Your idea will probably turn a few heads, but you better pray there isn't someone there that actually played SF back in the day because they'll call you out on your idea.

Also, writing a comic book based around martial arts is pretty hard. Anyone can write an action book in five seconds. You have to find a motivation for your characters. Why they do what they do and what is their overall goal in their journey to the top. If you read Hajime no Ippo, then that's some good source material.

But yeah, fuck comics. It's really not worth the headache if you have the patience to deal with the bullshit that comes with it.

JOE Q EDIT - And yeah, you did contradict yourself on the whole "I don't want to get into the industry, but I want to make a group for all of us that want to get into the industry" post.

[maxx]

Damn, Bowling Pin beasted. But in the long run, he did speak truth. I wasn't gonna say anything about maxx's story, but I guess Bowling Pin had the same thought process as me. I mean shit, if you can't take constructive criticism, then why bother posting up your idea? Welcome to the internet. Hell, welcome to SRK.

I mean, it's cool to have an idea for a comic book and whatnot, but by no means is your idea all that original. You're taking too many elements from fighting games.

I remember reading this article in Wizard back in 1997 about how to get into the industry. It basically summarized how hard it is to get into the industry. Whether it be small press or the big two(DC and Marvel, hell even Image). It's not easy at all. Your idea will probably turn a few heads, but you better pray there isn't someone there that actually played SF back in the day because they'll call you out on your idea.

Also, writing a comic book based around martial arts is pretty hard. Anyone can write an action book in five seconds. You have to find a motivation for your characters. Why they do what they do and what is their overall goal in their journey to the top. If you read Hajime no Ippo, then that's some good source material.

But yeah, fuck comics. It's really not worth the headache if you have the patience to deal with the bullshit that comes with it.

JOE Q EDIT - And yeah, you did contradict yourself on the whole "I don't want to get into the industry, but I want to make a group for all of us that want to get into the industry" post.

i've honestly only taken 2 elements from fighting games...and only one can be said to be kof.

the millionaire buisness man and the 3 on 3 concept..thats the only thing that can be said to be taken from fighting games.

but honestly i've destracted people from the idea of my thread and its turned into a lets constructively criticize maxx...which has been going on for like 2 pages. their are other people who have ideas in here and i want them to voice their opinions and i wanna help some people with their art and such. so let's drop any deconstructioning of my ideas from now on..and move on to focus on helping others?

coco_j: do you draw or write?

[maxx]

I've been reconsidering what you all have been said. And many have valid views..bowling has valid views but since i've only given tidbits those views are only on the tidbits of what i've said. Also since the story diviates from fighting mid to end of the first part of saga 1 it can't truly be viewed as fighting from that point but as fantasy/adventure.

No your right i can't do purely 100% fighting...not even cause i'd only be writing for a select crowd but because thats not how the story works.

also ive only taken 2 aspects from fighting...like i said before the 3 on 3 concept is very unique and sumtin not done in comics. I've seen tag teams and obviously 1 on 1 but never 3 on 3 or just really team based in the long run.

As well as i have some other ideas floating in my head. My dream is to draw my own comics..but that may not happen til i feel my skills are up to par. I find writing is 10x easier and so thats what i may do at first. If i can get this group together i believe we can do sum serious damage.

I think its easier to break in through the backdoor..right now american managa is on a serious uprising but alot of the new kids don't understand the art rules. And since alot of us do, we can do some real damage at anime conventions...promoting and such. I really wanna get this group together and see what everyones talents lie in and see if we can create our own independant comic.

I dont want to be viewed as a close minded ninny so i have taken the time to rethink what people have said. Yes i was angry before because well when someone comes in saying ruining dreams since xxxx....ya that'll tick you off a bit. maybe it was the presentation that pissed me off...but i don't want to be viewed as someone who can't take the heat.

so ya.

[Zephyranthes]

I dont want to be viewed as a close minded ninny so i have taken the time to rethink what people have said. Yes i was angry before because well when someone comes in saying ruining dreams since xxxx....ya that'll tick you off a bit. maybe it was the presentation that pissed me off...but i don't want to be viewed as someone who can't take the heat.

so ya.

From my experience, when people critique your work, you just can't take it personally. Otherwise you'll just go crazy. I've taken a few creative writing classes myself. Of course I always want people to like what I've written and be blown away by my indubitable genius. That doesn't really happen, though. In a class with even just over a dozen other people, opinions are going to go all over the place.

It pissed the shit out of me when other people would trample over the hard work I spent writing even just 8 pages of story. One time this girl brushed off my entire piece by writing, "If this is a parody, you're doing okay so far. If not...?" How much more condescending can you get? Comments like that don't do crap to improve your writing, but sometimes what people say actually make sense.

Pinny and Deathy both had some valid points and I am glad you are reevaluating your stance. Yeah, you only told us about tidbits of your comic-in-progress so of course when people chime in they can ONLY comment on the tidbits you've already mentioned. If you think they are off the mark, then so be it. But you just can't get upset when people are just trying to help you. It's not like they read your mind and completely dismissed your every idea.

Of course... Crappy writers like Michael Turner have churned out big hits solely on their (crappy) art alone, so what the fuck do I know. It blows me away that Daniel Way gets to write comics.

[bill_rizer]

"If this is a parody, you're doing okay so far. If not...?"

You see something like this would piss me off, its human nature to feel that way.

Theirs a big difference in constructive criticism and flat out telling someone their idea is shit.

Just how does that help you get better, it wont.

Ive spent alot of time studying art/animation and believe me Ive had many "well its shit anit it" comments, so much so that I just take it on the chin and try to improve.

[Khaotika!]

Theirs a big difference in constructive criticism and flat out telling someone their idea is shit.



I wish I'd had an enormous metal bat with that engraved across it when I was in college.

To anyone lurking, there's a lot of great tips being said in this thread, especially about how to take a critique. There's gotta be MOAR people on SRK with stuff they wanna share...

(i'm not ready to share yet, lol)

[CptMunta]

I post a regular strip (Updated weekly) in the fan art gallery that I'm looking into getting published:

Duckie the Self Aware Duck:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=112146

And there's my Valin comic thread I did a few years back. This is issue 21 in an ongoing story I've worked on since I was in highschool:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=102366

You'll have to excuse some of the artwork. Old stuff ;)

Got alot of ideas under my cap, but am focusing on Duckie and work ATM. You guys should really have a dig in the Fan Art Gallery there's heaps of cool stuff in there:
Strider short by SFMC
Oro vs Ibiki Backup by Chainwhore

Lots of hidden gems in there.

[jettmanas]

Just remembered fighting art I did years ago for a pitch (using the company's characters).

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6893/richbourneza3.th.jpg (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richbourneza3.jpg)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/507/zambiaik5.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zambiaik5.jpg)

[maxx]

Just remembered fighting art I did years ago for a pitch (using the company's characters).

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6893/richbourneza3.th.jpg (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richbourneza3.jpg)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/507/zambiaik5.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zambiaik5.jpg)

u have any bigger versions of it...very hard to tell wut they look like.

[jettmanas]

u have any bigger versions of it...very hard to tell wut they look like.

Yeah. (these might be too big, but here goes)

I can switch styles to suit a project. I'm currently doing so w/some indie PS & Flash, scanning in paper in pencil art for cleanup.
Thanks for checking 'em out..

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3663/richbournept3.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richbournept3.jpg)


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6003/zambialv1.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zambialv1.jpg)

[maxx]

hate to tell u...but their the exact same size. the number below changed but the actual picture size didnt.

[jettmanas]

You're right. Tricky. I'll try again.

http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richbournejp0.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/190/richbournevb7.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richbournevb7.jpg)

http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zambiard8.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4581/zambiard8.th.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zambiard8.jpg)

[coco_j]

@Maxx: I'm really vague man... both write and draw. But like you mentioned, my skills just aren't up to par to draw my own comics (well some of them).

Like you I'm working on a fighting comic (among others) and have been for like 7 years now. I actually begged and pleaded to get Sano to write it and it's under the fan fiction section. As he was writing it I was re-writing my version. So Sano's work is quite different to what I've got in mind now.
Still dug the hell out of what he done though.. but now I'll be taking bits of his story and combining it to mine since it constantly evolves. Been reading through the Anime cliche thread and making sure the finished story doesn't have too much of those things, and it won't since I initially began creating this due to my annoyances with other fighting comics.

Anyway, all I've really done is come up with vague story arc outlines and character designs for it, which when I get some free time will hopefully post up.

So basically, the main thing I'm looking at is character design and some art possibly, and writing chores.

Peace yall.

[maxx]

You're right. Tricky. I'll try again.

http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richbournejp0.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/190/richbournevb7.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richbournevb7.jpg)

http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zambiard8.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4581/zambiard8.th.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zambiard8.jpg)

nice stuff...very clean...so i take it animation is your specialty.

cocobware: thats cool man..i can feel ya..hope you post sumtin up art or writing..would like to see ur stuff.

[Khaotika!]

I post a regular strip (Updated weekly) in the fan art gallery that I'm looking into getting published:

Duckie the Self Aware Duck:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=112146

And there's my Valin comic thread I did a few years back. This is issue 21 in an ongoing story I've worked on since I was in highschool:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=102366

You'll have to excuse some of the artwork. Old stuff ;)


Awesome stuff man. How long have you been doing art? The Duckie stuff looks very well polished; do you ink with a brush? (LOVE #12)

[maxx]

Awesome stuff man. How long have you been doing art? The Duckie stuff looks very well polished; do you ink with a brush? (LOVE #12)

lol looks like he inks with a brush #12 is the truth.

[CptMunta]

Awesome stuff man. How long have you been doing art? The Duckie stuff looks very well polished; do you ink with a brush? (LOVE #12)

Cheers guys. I've been drawing for ages. I work as an illustrator graphic guy for this company: www.lab.net.nz

But I mainly focus on pavement art for festivals and what not, I also run art classes for kids: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/marcjbar/

I ink with a brushpen, part of the PITT artist pen set for Faber Castell. Does the job nicely :)

If you like Duckie 12, you'd love Duckie 49. There's even a Duck Tales arch in there. If you subscribe to the thread you should get an update a week. I try and post a Duckie a week at the mo

Cheers for the comments. Always good to get feedback. :tup:

[Khaotika!]

Cheers guys. I've been drawing for ages. I work as an illustrator graphic guy for this company: www.lab.net.nz

But I mainly focus on pavement art for festivals and what not, I also run art classes for kids: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/marcjbar/

I ink with a brushpen, part of the PITT artist pen set for Faber Castell. Does the job nicely :)

Cheers for the comments. Always good to get feedback. :tup:

Oh, so you're one of the lucky few who actually have an art career, lol. /jealous

I thought it was a brushpen, it seemed not quite "full-brush" to me. I'm lousy with inking, always looking to get better.

Anyway, good stuff indeed. Will be checking it out on a weekly basis from now on. Good luck with getting it run in the papers. I'd had the whole spiel from the syndication run in front of me... damn, a decade ago almost... what they had in mind wasn't interesting enough, so no strip from me.

[Are_you_okay?!]

I sent two people on here e-mail's concerning the comic idea I want to do, if they agree, then in the future I could possibly have a full "prototype" comic on here for you guys to enjoy and discuss. I've never had an established goal in life, and once I got a "Hey you know this could be your thing..." kind of speech from an english teacher I began working hard on it. Hell, I'm going back to school later this year so I can attend college to get a degree in writing (If I could hit it big without that it'd be awesome...). So far I (roughly) have the characters, setting, and storylines for my first few arc's.

Once I get confirmation I'll start posting scripts and ideas I have. I really have no worry over "stealing" since I have information on this from years back, dated and all plus an entry into a school writing contest. Even if they did it wouldn't match mine, they'd have some lovely looking characters though lol.

[Nokato]

I went to fucking school to do this, but I don't have a lot to show for it.

http://khaotika.deviantart.com/

Used to have my own website with more artwork, but I took it down because I'd stopped updating. That stuff on DevArt is old, like 1998-2000 old. I've gotten a lot better, just not productive-wise. :lol:

I've been working on 4 different comic series in some form for about 10 years now. Each one's still under development; character design, plotting, scripting, tying everything up. I don't know what to do about it, other than try to get it online somehow.


Hey, i just found this thread..I've been chillin on DA for a bit now--I'm in school for sequential art also...http://expotato.deviantart.com

I'm workin on some stuff now hoping to get picked up by Tokyopop.