School suspends boy for sketching gun

[Weeks]

Sorry if this has already been posted, but this shit is crazy. Search didn't yield me anything.

School suspends boy for sketching gun
Associated Press
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 08.22.2007

MESA - Chandler school officials have suspended a 13-year-old boy for sketching a picture that resembled a gun, saying it posed a threat to classmates.
But parents of the Payne Junior High School student said the drawing was a harmless doodle of a fake laser, and school officials overreacted.
"I just can't believe that there wasn't another way to resolve this," said Paula Mosteller, the boy's mother. "He's so upset. The school made him feel like he committed a crime. They are doing more damage than good."
The Mostellers said the drawing did not show blood, bullets, injuries, or target any human. They said it was just a drawing that resembled a gun.
But Payne Junior High administrators thought the sketch was enough of a threat and gave the boy a five-day suspension, later reduced to three days.
Chandler district spokesman Terry Locke said the sketch was "absolutely considered a threat," and threatening words or pictures are punishable.
The school did not contact police and did not provide counseling or an evaluate the boy to determine if he intended the drawing as a threat.
School officials issued the suspension Monday afternoon. They notified the student's father, Ben Mosteller. He met with school officials and persuaded them to shorten his son's suspension from 5 days to 3.
Ben Mosteller said that when he came to the school to discuss his son's punishment, school officials mentioned the seriousness of the issue and talked about the massacre at Colorado's Columbine High School _ the site where two teenagers shot and killed 12 students and injured 24 others in 1999.
The Mostellers said the Columbine reference was extreme and offensive.
They have contacted the district's governing board about the incident involving their son.

Source: http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/197639.php

All I gotta say is, damn. It's a good thing they caught this kid before he sketched something even more dangerous, like a nuclear bomb..or fucking Lex Luthor.

[ThePurpleBunny]

:shake:

[cain[e]]

Shit man, Imagine to reprecussions of sketching a Gundam

"We had to stop this kid. He was threating to destroy the school with such an atrocious machine. Apparently it's something from Japan, and Japan is near Korea...have we already forgotten about Virginia Tech?!"


too soon?

[Alzarath]

Chandler school officials have suspended a 13-year-old boy for sketching a picture that resembled a gun, saying it posed a threat to classmates.


Someone's been playin too much ffvi...

[white shadow]

In the mean time, Principal Wirschtheimer was fondling kids in detention hall while holding a loaded shotgun.

[Obkb]

Just wait until Captain America, AKA Phoenix Wright gets in here and validates the U.S. Constitution some more. His logic will cross you up so much, you'll be left not knowing if you're falling/standing or sitting after vertigo sets in... then your head will just fall out your asshole and you'll be able to sit on your shoulders.

[YellowS4]

The Mostellers said the drawing did not show blood, bullets, injuries, or target any human. They said it was just a drawing that resembled a gun.

Fuck, I thought that said Molesters.

[Tiberious]

Gee... whatta shocker.

Zero Tolerance == Zero Sense.

[thurst]

maybe he mastered sai's ink jutsu and was planning on assaulting the classroom with his drawn gun. can never be too careful.

[Alzarath]

Lulz, I just noticed the spokesman's name is Terry Locke :lol:

[Weecho]

Could of been worse. He could of drew a sketch of a penis and gotten expelled for sexual harassment.

[afrikanpygmy]

Could of been worse. He could of drew a sketch of a penis and gotten expelled for sexual harassment.

LOL. That didn't stop Seth from Superbad.

[RushedDown]

Fuck, I thought that said Molesters.


i misread it at first to and was like wtf

[starkilled]

Thank god they took action before anyone was seriously hurt.

[Dan?]

Wow, that gets kids suspended these days? Lord knows what they woulda done to me. Even back when I was just a chitlin, I was sketchin ninjas and army guys killin each other over aircraft carriers and sharks.

They prolly woulda locked me in a sphere of adamantium and had Superman hurl me into the sun.

[scrubydan]

is the kid korean?

[Alzarath]

is the kid korean?

He was sketching a gun, not a zerg rush.

[starkilled]

He was sketching a gun, not a zerg rush.

lol +1

[Mystic_bash]

What happens if they confront an architect?






















*runs away*

[Panicked]

He was sketching a gun, not a zerg rush.

So what, Black?

[Weeks]

No, he would have been sketching phat asses and a picture of Scarface

[pherai]

Damn I'm glad I don't go to elementary school now. I used to write journal entries about Mortal Kombat fights with fatalities and everything. What male kid didn't sketch dudes killing eachother growing up?

[quiche]

Haha, of course it was in Arizona.

...seriously.

[Luciano Leone]

If it's in the Chandler school districts, he is probably of mexican heritage, just an educated guess. My two cousins live in Chandler, and say lots of students can't even speak english at their school.

But regardless of his race, that's fucked up. If he just drew a gun, imagine what they would've done to me for my drawings of GI Joes and mutant animals way back in the day. They would probably slit my throat and hang me out to dry.

[Taichi]

This is fucking ridiculous.

I drew a skull and crossbones in class once, with the caption "Death by Tire Iron" and GAVE IT to a girl.

I meant nothing by it, I just thought it was funny.

I didn't get suspended, or punished in any way.

at all.

I might've gotten reprimanded, maybe a demerit, but I KNOW I didn't get expulsion, suspension, or even DETENTION, or I would've remembered it.

and the teacher administering the punishment was a stone faced, fuckhead prick, who HATED me.

times were different back in 1993

When I was in 5th Grade, I remember the teacher making us do a "Halloween" themed drawing.

the gorier the better.

I had people being disembowled, chainsaw wielding maniacs beheading people, knives, guns, axes, machetes, monsters, dismemberments, people using other people's limbs as weapons, chains, swords, and all manner of macabre torture devices.

I got an "A".

[scum gale 88]

one time I went to this tech institute for a class and I was bored and doing nothing so I started drawing this badass gatling gun for a giant robot (complete with tubes, pipes and many unnecessary details). the teacher walks by and just like THAT she whips out a marker and scribbles all over it and threatens to expel me if it ever happens again. getting suspended is alright, but straight up getting kicked out for drawing a weapon that is only good against stone giants and lizard men is pretty harsh.

but yeah. thinking about that kid drawing a gun made me shit myself in fear, no joke. they are going to enforce curfew after 6 p.m. and families will be encouraged to lock their doors at all times, chaos will run rampant!! dear god, its good they caught this maniac before his damn poison infected the other children!! THE GROUND TEARING UP WHILE BLOOD FLOWS THROUGH THE STREETS! DEMONS FUCKING OUR SOULS WITH A DOZEN DEMON TENTACLE COCKS!!
filling our heads with evil thoughts of drawing guns...or worse...more guns!!
this is it srk, repent!!

[Drewdools]

The little fuck probably deserved it. I hate all the faggots in my school that spend all of their time drawing guns, while they could be drawing HUGE TITS!

[Taichi]

hey, them lizard men mean fucking business.

if you ain't got the sword of screaming redemption, your axe of demonic deforestation isn't gonna do much good.

the only other option would be a dagger of water magnetism, and that would require you to be close quarters.

so, the gatling gun is a good option.

how, exactly is it only good against lizard men?

The little fuck probably deserved it. I hate all the faggots in my school that spend all of their time drawing guns, while they could be drawing HUGE TITS!

lol.

nice knowin' ya.

'07 for the lose.

[GC!?]

doesn't this stuff happen all the time? I mean, kids getting suspended over drawings of weapons? Happened pretty frequently in my elementary...and hell, in one case, in my high school.

The reason for suspension is hilarious though. "posed a threat to classmates"? :lol:

[SlayerofBodom]

Jesus, I think the only thing that I drew from about first to sixth grade were individuals shooting each other with large, cool-looking handguns, rifles, machine guns, and shotguns. So did all my friends. We had competitions to see whose drawings looked cooler and meaner.

They might as well suspend a girl for drawing a picture of a pony, because, you know, a pony can trample someone to death or throw them to the ground.

[1]

I got in trouble once for drawing my teacher in middle school (who was a guy) with a vagina on a couch, touching it while liquids leaked out of it. I then drew my other teacher kneeling over and taking one in the mouth. :lol:

I made them just to see what my friend would say and threw them away but some asshole took them out of the trash and told on me. I was sent to the office and was asked why I would draw that stuff. But it was hard to keep a straight face when you see the pictures right there on the table in front of you. And the fact that they were so poorly drawn was also hilarious. I wish I still had them.

Oh well, good times. RIP Mr. Ash - sorry we gave you a hard time. :lol:

Oh yea, I drew lots of guns in school too. Teachers blowing their brains out and whatnot. During middle school, I would draw guns constantly. Luckily my teachers didn't care.

[Bob Poundmax]

School suspends boy for sketching gun
Associated Press
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 08.22.2007

MESA - Chandler school officials have suspended a 13-year-old boy for sketching a picture that resembled a gun, saying it posed a threat to classmates.
But parents of the Payne Junior High School student said the drawing was a harmless doodle of a fake laser, and school officials overreacted.
"I just can't believe that there wasn't another way to resolve this," said Paula Mosteller, the boy's mother. "He's so upset. The school made him feel like he committed a crime. They are doing more damage than good."
The Mostellers said the drawing did not show blood, bullets, injuries, or target any human. They said it was just a drawing that resembled a gun.
But Payne Junior High administrators thought the sketch was enough of a threat and gave the boy a five-day suspension, later reduced to three days.
Chandler district spokesman Terry Locke said the sketch was "absolutely considered a threat," and threatening words or pictures are punishable.
The school did not contact police and did not provide counseling or an evaluate the boy to determine if he intended the drawing as a threat.
School officials issued the suspension Monday afternoon. They notified the student's father, Ben Mosteller. He met with school officials and persuaded them to shorten his son's suspension from 5 days to 3.
Ben Mosteller said that when he came to the school to discuss his son's punishment, school officials mentioned the seriousness of the issue and talked about the massacre at Colorado's Columbine High School _ the site where two teenagers shot and killed 12 students and injured 24 others in 1999.
The Mostellers said the Columbine reference was extreme and offensive.
They have contacted the district's governing board about the incident involving their son.

Source: http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/197639.php

What the fuck? Seriously, we need to have some sort of damage scaling on this "No tolerance" bullshit because after while we are going to be expelling little boys for having an erection, and that will be a sad day in America....:sad:

BTW, didnt they already expel some poor kids after making out? We are already there then.

[Infernoman]

how stupid! I drew weapons all the time in HS...though I recall that some people DID get a bit nervous when they saw me draw them they didn't look realistic or anything...hell I think I'll go look for some of my old notebook and see if I still have any of them drawings left.

[jsheppar]

me and my friends used to have a 'book of guns' when we were in grade 6 or some shit. it was literally a 3 ring binder filled with drawings of guns. we did all the drawing at school and kept the binder there. now that i think about it, it's probably kicking around somewhere, i need to go look through it for laughs.

[MrBlank]

This reminds me of the time i got suspended for drawing a giant dick raping the teacher, but because the dick "looked" like a gun i got suspended...





NO

[AKUMA2000]

That is crazy as hell, getting suspened for sketching a gun ??!!!

God forbid he didn't have a super soaker watergun at home and went back to school and held the lunchroom hostage for an extra ice cream cone.......

[Darklightjg1]

Damn, that kid could've grown up to be the next great comic book artist or something, but they HAD to go and fuck it up. I didn't think it was possible to be full of shit to that degree. My friends and I drew people battling/killing each other all the time and no one's ever pulled a dick move like in the article.

It also reminds me of when I used to write a bunch of fucked up shit in my creative writing class and present it in front of the class (I wrote the shit out of amusement, I wasn't serious about it). My teacher was disturbed and worried about the stuff I was writing, but I never got put out of class for it.

It's a sad day when people are paranoid over drawings that aren't even directed at anyone. :tdown:

[pwnagemachine]

For a second I thought Mostellers read Molesters. :rofl::rofl:

[The Fireboy]

if this is the same story I saw on CNN yesterday. I saw the picture of the 'gun'

I wonder if anyone noticed this..turn your head to the side...it looks like a building. Lol

[goodm0urning]

A picture of the young perpetrator:

http://homepage.mac.com/caroledanforth/rickanderson/macgyver/images/index/B0006IUDXA.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

To be fair to school officials, this guy looks like he could make even a picture of a weapon dangerous.

[PsychoSquall]

I thought 'sketching gun' said: 'stretching gum'. LOL What is up with all of the misreading in here?

This reminds me of the time I sketched a hot teacher I had, topless! It was photorealistic too. I loved my ability to draw real life...

And another story of when a kid got suspended for bringing to school an action figure GIjoe gun. It was a little bigger than a fingernail.

[Senjutsu Sensei]

Someone's been playin too much ffvi...

Relm? Is that you?

[terracotta]

it's depressing to realize how many people in power are this stupid.

[Manx]

Drew tons of guns in school. Had to. They were for the comic books me and my friends were working so hard on. I got to draw my character Hammerhead and he wielded the mighty laser rocket launcher. Yes, it shot rockets... and lasers. :tup:

[Bob Poundmax]

And another story of when a kid got suspended for bringing to school an action figure GIjoe gun. It was a little bigger than a fingernail.

Wow.....school Administrators are real pussies nowadays. How is a GI-Joe even remotely threatening? Childeren getting suspended from school can have very dangerous consequences that can come back and bite us. We want our kids to be smarter yet we kick them out of school for being kids. What is really disturbing is them((pussy ass school admins.)think they are actually stopping things like school shootings from happening. If they took out the time to study school shootings they would know that there is nothing you can really do about crazy motherfuckers who want to kill the dicks who humiliated then for years. Whatever security measures are in place to prevent them are just going to be beaten out by security loopholes and ingenuity that they just cant forsee. But what I can forsee is an entire generation of people who are deficient in Math/Science who were kicked out of school for simply being kids. I know because I am one of these people I speak of........

[Obkb]

it's depressing to realize how many people in power are this stupid.

Yes. Yes, it is. But it's not the people in "power." The teachers, principals and everyone else involved in this specific story are all just mindless automatons who live in what little fear and ignorance they can salvage to form a pointless personality.

I don't know. Short of sounding like a conspiracy nut, there's little that can be said about this. The united states is quickly working its way into becoming a police state, if not an blatant communist state.

Did you know that back in March, president bush signed into law, unbeknownst to congress (and the American people), power that would give him the ability to declare martial law and have absolute executive power in the U.S.? It makes him a dictator. So, in the case of another "terrorist attack," or even a natural disaster, say, hurricane Katrina, president bush can claim an "official" "state of emergency" andthe U.S. Democracy can quickly become a dictatorship.

Now, add all of that to this case in point and many like it, it seems the people of the U.S. are being desensitized to this way of life.

I mean think about it. The replies on this very thread are "Oh, that's horrible!" "I can't believe this" "I can't believe the people in power are this stupid," etc etc...

THAT is what is wrong. People, I think have forgotten who really has the power in this nation, but the U.S. government has suffocated that point and have turned the tables. So, instead of the government serving the people of the U.S., the people are serving a select few of the elite. I'm dead serious. You can see it coming. For those who have seen it coming for a while now, we will laugh at those who cry for help. At least I will.

In closing, as I'm sure many of you are unaware, there's something secret, but already law, that is supposed to take place in (I think) May of 2008. That's just around the corner. It's the National ID Act.

Simply put, every american citizen will be required to have every bit of their personal information imbedded in a chip that will be injected into their body. This chip will contain:

1. Basic background and hereditary information
2. Bank account information
3. Certificates and liscenses
4. A doctor-evaluated psycho-analysis for crime prevention/intervention
5. Health hazards. You won't be able to order pizza if you have high cholesterol unless you're willing to pay 50$ for it in case you need medical assistance. This so the pizza place can cover any lawsuits.
6. GPS Tracking Device
7. Records. Movie rentals, appointments, movies, everything you purchase, when and where will be logged in the chip.

Everything in your life will be accounted for and there will be no privacy.

Of course, you can choose NOT to have this chip inserted and you won't be able to:

Drive.
Enter government buildings
Travel out of the nation.
Have a job
Hunting without a liscense is already illegal.

What kind of legal lifestyle is left if you refuse, even if you, the people disagree with the card in the first place? Is it no longer your say? What a spin on reality!

Sounds eerily like Nazi Germany... on an until now unseen scale.

[Weeks]

injecting a chip into your body? lmao. what a bunch of conspiracy-theory bullshit

that shit would be idiotic for any politician, fucking political suicide.

not gonna happen. even ultra-conservative religious peeps aren't going to support that because they'll think it's some Left Behind babylon bullshit.

[Obkb]

Alright. It is already fact. People might actually wake up and universally reject the idea but considering the track we're currently on, that seems unlikely, though I do hope that will happen. IT IS ALREADY LAW. But like so many current laws, the average american citizen is totally unsuspecting. You can deny it and neg rep me for bringing shit to the table and bringing none of your own, that's fine. You exemplify the exact mentality I pointed out.

EDIT: You are aware that one couple already opted, volunteered to accept this chip, right? It was on CNN and FoxNews a couple of weeks ago. But, whatever man. Do some research before you form opinions.

[woof]

what's your point?
i got suspended in middle school for drawing my hand as practice .. the teacher thought i was drawing the middle finger.

[The Fireboy]

snip

Uhh dude..that sounds completely unconstitutional, I doubt it'll be getting off the ground anytime soon, even with the patriot act in place.

[Obkb]

Uhh dude..that sounds completely unconstitutional...

Yes it does. :shake:

[Weeks]

Let me guess. You're one of those 9/11 truthers, huh?

This is the closest I could come to an actual non-bs source for this 'national id computer chip GOVERNMENT MIND CONTROL'

"The REAL ID Act of 2005 is Division B of an act of the United States Congress titled Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005, Pub.L. 109-13, 119 Stat. 231, enacted 2005-05-11). This legislation was intended to deter terrorism by implementing the following:

* Establishing national standards for state-issued driver's licenses and non-driver's identification cards;
* Waiving laws that interfere with construction of physical barriers at the borders;
* Updating and tightening the laws on application for asylum and deportation of aliens for terrorist activity;
* Introducing rules covering "delivery bonds" (rather like bail bonds but for aliens who have been released pending hearings);
* Funding some reports and pilot projects related to border security; and
* Changing visa limits for temporary workers, nurses, and Australian citizens.
"

Holy shit that sounds terrible. a national standard for state-issued ids!?? fucking babylon is come again! repent!

[Oroman]

Hmmm, this reminds me of the time that I got suspended for drawing a gun. It had a sword on the end and it was stabbing someone while shooting them. Truely a work of art. This shit is stupid, it remends me of a boy I saw on the news that had sexual assault charges pressed on him because he slapped a girls ass when she scored a touchdown in gym. Fuck, I'm glad I don't have to deal with shit now that I'm going to college...now I gotta worry about false rape charges.:looney:

[Mavric]

This is messed up. In highschool i used to draw EPIC stick figure battles with stick soldiers getting stabbed, shot, blown up etc and I don't recall anyone ever caring.

At least the kid wasn't drawing tons of penises. </superbad>

[RyuHikaru]

When I have kids I'm telling him to do this to see just what the fuck they are gonna do to him. I'll go Shanquisha on their asses if they suspend my son for drawing.

Man, society is retarded.

[J-ride]

Fuck, I'm glad I don't have to deal with shit now that I'm going to college...now I gotta worry about false rape charges.:looney:
So you are relieved that you only have to worry about being falsly accused of rape, because unlike sexual harassment, it isn't going to follow you for the rest of your life. :rofl:

Edit: I want to know who these pussies are who keep pushing these ridiculous rules in schools. If I was a parent and a kid got sent home for this crap, I'd send my kid to school with a drawing of a Kevlar vest taped to his chest.

[SlayerofBodom]

Retarded, crackpot drivel

I really love it when the mentally unstable go into a random forum topic and start posting all their crazy, psychotic ideas.

The best part is that Obkb probably can't even read; the idea about a chip inserted into one's body is a suggestion for the ARMED FORCES, not common citizens. And it doesn't have any information on it; it would be used to track missing soldiers. That is, save peoples' lives. (What the fuck? How would storing information on a chip be even remotely helpful if it's inside of someone?)

Nice try using scare tactics, you worthless cumstain, but you're better off posting on a junior high school message board, where no has yet learned how to use Google or Wikipedia.

[white shadow]

Holy shit that sounds terrible. a national standard for state-issued ids!?? fucking babylon is come again! repent!

lol But truth be told, 9 years ago the thought of a law like the Patriot Act would've been preposterous to me.

[Weeks]

9 years ago you would have been 11. So I don't think it would have been a big deal to you either way

[Airthrow]

(What the fuck? How would storing information on a chip be even remotely helpful if it's inside of someone?)

RFID.

And no, there are not going to be mass queues for us cattle to get our 1984 tracking chips.

[Taichi]

if he had drawn a soldier, 'defending our freedom' in Iraq, this would be a non-issue.

[Weeks]

if he had drawn a soldier, 'defending our freedom' in Iraq, this would be a non-issue.

you are aware that liberal hysteria about guns is primarily responsible for this sort of zero-tolerance bullshit, right?

[Taichi]

Absolutely.

I may be a hardcore lefty, but I am in support of Gun rights.

[goodm0urning]

you are aware that liberal hysteria about guns is primarily responsible for this sort of zero-tolerance bullshit, right?Liberal hysteria + the fact that any politician who "cracks down on crime" and "protects our children" is a surefire vote-getter.

[Ragetowersrage]

As fucked up as it is, I almost got in trouble for drawing the old school Nintendo Zapper. I was doodling in my government class, drew the Zapper, with it's cord plugged into the NES and a controller laying next to it.

The teacher almost lost her shit about it too

[RyuHikaru]

As fucked up as it is, I almost got in trouble for drawing the old school Nintendo Zapper. I was doodling in my government class, drew the Zapper, with it's cord plugged into the NES and a controller laying next to it.

The teacher almost lost her shit about it too

Duck Hunt is serious business