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CrouchingTiger
08-25-2007, 10:50 AM
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1567865/20070824/dmx.jhtml

Deputies with the Maricopa County sheriff's office raided the Cave Creek, Arizona, home of rapper DMX on Friday morning (August 24), and according to a police spokesperson, 12 pit bulls were removed from the residence, all in bad condition. Police would not get into specifics but did say the animals are being tended to by veterinarians.

At this point, DMX (real name: Earl Simmons) has not been officially charged with any crime, but police are still investigating. DMX was not at his home at the time of the raid, during which police also discovered a large cache of weapons. Police do not believe the rapper is in Arizona but would like to question him as part of their investigation.

(See more news on the raid of DMX's house.)

A tipster notified police more than a week ago that dogs were being kept in inhumane conditions at the rapper's property, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio told MTV News. "They weren't getting proper food, they weren't getting proper water, and they were tied outside in 115-degree heat," Arpaio said. "We are developing the investigation." He added that the department is seeking additional warrants to check the guns to determine if "they're legal, if he's allowed to have weapons."

According to Arpaio, the charred remains of at least one dog were recovered from DMX's backyard, and the sheriff's department will be investigating the rapper's possible involvement in illegal dogfighting. Police continue to explore the grounds around DMX's home for more dog remains.

The rapper's attorney, Stacey Richman, defended her client, saying, "He loves and lives for his animals" and "has caretakers for his homes and especially for his animals." According to Richman, "The caretaker [DMX had hired] was only coming in once a day. Of course, that was not the arrangement."

This isn't the first time police have taken an interest in DMX's dogs. Back in 2002, the rapper pleaded guilty in New Jersey to charges of animal cruelty, stemming from a 1998 raid of DMX's home. Police claimed he had neglected 13 pit bulls. He eventually plea-bargained down to fines, probation and community service, and even starred in a public-service announcement against animal abuse.

The DMX news comes the same day that NFL star Michael Vick admitted his own involvement with dogfighting (see "Why Does The Michael Vick Case Hurt Hip-Hop?"). The Atlanta Falcons quarterback told the U.S. District Court in Richmond, Virginia, that he would plead guilty to "conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture." Vick faces a maximum term of five years in prison and $250,000 in fines. Later Friday evening, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announced that Vick has been suspended from the league indefinitely.

MTV News will have more on this story as it develops.

http://www.auburn.edu/~goldema/dmx.jpg

Debaser
08-25-2007, 10:52 AM
Okay SRK, if you're black, HIDE. The white man's gonna getcha.

Obkb
08-25-2007, 10:53 AM
This could get interesting. If Vick snitched and DMX goes to prison, they should put the two together in a cell and record that shit.

R.P.D rookie
08-25-2007, 10:55 AM
"the charred remains of at least one dog were recovered from DMX's backyard"


Yeah, I think DMX might be in trouble....

1
08-25-2007, 10:56 AM
Why would he need a large cache of weapons? Who's out to get him?

Hyperhal
08-25-2007, 10:59 AM
You know, they could be using "dog" to describe a shady black male. Lord knows DMX hates those dogs and their damned drug dealing

Regarding the guns, I guess its a precaution to all them other mother cats you gun with, you run with.

Son Them All
08-25-2007, 10:59 AM
This could get interesting. If Vick snitched and DMX goes to prison, they should put the two together in a cell and record that shit.

Vick and X on a reality show behind bars?? Could TV get any better than that??

I figured something like this would eventually happen to X. I mean he's always had pits and he's always been crazy...then....the...crack. I'm surprised he hasn't eaten one of his dogs yet (if he hasn't).

Alzarath
08-25-2007, 11:00 AM
Rrrrrrrrrr

Arf Arf

maxx
08-25-2007, 11:00 AM
dmx is about the fruitiest hardcore rapper i've seen. i remember when mtv followed his life for a week. and this dude is talking about how hard he is how niggas dont get his hard life. and how he has been fighting and just being the dog he is....all while he's getting a manicure.

Jida
08-25-2007, 11:00 AM
DMX is so full of shit.

R.P.D rookie
08-25-2007, 11:03 AM
Why would he need a large cache of weapons? Who's out to get him?

Maybe it's like pet cemetary where the animals come back to life as zombie animals, thus the reason to keep the weapons around. Apparently DMX caught on to the problem that he was burying dogs on sacred Indian burial grounds, so he resorted to burning the corpses to get rid of them for good.

io
08-25-2007, 11:05 AM
i didn't know his real name was earl. haha....

Biolink
08-25-2007, 11:06 AM
"Where Ma Dogs @?!!!"

Hyperhal
08-25-2007, 11:08 AM
"Where Ma Dogs @?!!!"

THE ASPCA

Taichi
08-25-2007, 11:49 AM
Oh shit, Joe Arpaio?

DMX is fucked beyond belief.

seriously, I'd rather have a pit bull literally hanging off my nutsack, than to have Joe Arpaio tailing my ass.

RyuHikaru
08-25-2007, 11:54 AM
THE ASPCA

:rofl:

There are too many times I wish I had prem again around here lately.

DeathReaper47
08-25-2007, 12:00 PM
Rrrrrrrrrr

Arf Arf

Arie Spears FTW

I thought DMX and dog fighting went hand and hand

Rioting Soul
08-25-2007, 12:07 PM
Arie Spears FTW

I thought DMX and dog fighting went hand and hand

Yeah, it seems so obvious now.

Return of Shiki
08-25-2007, 12:07 PM
*Waits for the NAACP to release a statement about how DMX is an unfair victim*

axeman61
08-25-2007, 12:10 PM
According to Arpaio, the charred remains of at least one dog were recovered from DMX's backyard...

Oh-hoh-hoh. His ass could be toast. People still aren't off this M.Vick shit.

thurst
08-25-2007, 12:11 PM
manicure or not, dmx is on my short list of rappers that i'd be scared to meet in real life. i love the leap in logic, "he has dogs, he must somehow be involved in illegal dog fighting!" i hope dat nguyen's house gets raided so i can hear, "oh he has a honda civic, he must be involved in illegal street car racing!"

axeman61
08-25-2007, 12:14 PM
dmx is about the fruitiest hardcore rapper i've seen. i remember when mtv followed his life for a week. and this dude is talking about how hard he is how niggas dont get his hard life. and how he has been fighting and just being the dog he is....all while he's getting a manicure.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I never saw that. I have some torrenting to do...

Wolfkiller
08-25-2007, 12:20 PM
*Waiting for more monbaby nonsense to ensue*

Rioting Soul
08-25-2007, 12:21 PM
i love the leap in logic, "he has dogs, he must somehow be involved in illegal dog fighting!" i hope dat nguyen's house gets raided so i can hear, "oh he has a honda civic, he must be involved in illegal street car racing!"

If you see a white man with a duffel bag going to the top of a clock tower.....

If you see a black man with multiple pit bulls..

Hyperhal
08-25-2007, 12:57 PM
Watch Xhibit be the next person getting his house raided

MrBuster
08-25-2007, 01:06 PM
Random house raids of black people is a new police sport... "Niggasearchin'" is what they call it. I need to go straighten up my crib real quick before my door gets busted through by the 5-0.

white shadow
08-25-2007, 01:18 PM
Rrrrrrrrrr

Arf Arf

lol Rappers beware! I know Snoop has a bunch of pitbulls too.



lol Anyone remember when DMX was coming out with his own line of Dog clothes? :rofl::rofl: Thug Life indeed.:clap:

ARF ARF ARF ARF!!!!

Luciano Leone
08-25-2007, 01:20 PM
Rrrrrruffff


X GON GIVE IT TO YA

Raziel321
08-25-2007, 01:20 PM
how the fuck does anybody take care of 10+ pitbulls? i have enough trouble taking care of one.


damn that must suck to have your house raided when your gone somewhere, imagine getting wind of that news.


as for the weapons, arizona is just about the only place you wouldnt get in trouble for that

sixtymhz
08-25-2007, 01:27 PM
DMX's name is Earl! lol...

Goose
08-25-2007, 01:29 PM
You know, they could be using "dog" to describe a shady black male. Lord knows DMX hates those dogs and their damned drug dealing.

bro; that's f'ed up.

freehode
08-25-2007, 01:35 PM
manicure or not, dmx is on my short list of rappers that i'd be scared to meet in real life. i love the leap in logic, "he has dogs, he must somehow be involved in illegal dog fighting!" i hope dat nguyen's house gets raided so i can hear, "oh he has a honda civic, he must be involved in illegal street car racing!"

Dude, did you even read the article? 12 pitbulls were all in bad condition and they found CHARRED REMAINS of at least one other dog.

If that's not evidence of some kind of inhumane treatment of animals, if not necessarily dogfighting, then either most of America are idiots or DMX didn't go grocery shopping for 6 months, and neglected to mention that earlier.

C'mon man, put 2 and 2 together.

Debaser
08-25-2007, 01:37 PM
Dude, did you even read the article? 12 pitbulls were all in bad condition and they found CHARRED REMAINS of at least one other dog.

If that's not evidence of some kind of inhumane treatment of animals, if not necessarily dogfighting, then either most of America are idiots or DMX didn't go grocery shopping for 6 months, and neglected to mention that earlier.

C'mon man, put 2 and 2 together.

I think someone already mentioned the zombie dog theory. If that's not enough for reasonable doubt, I don't know what is.

SlayerofBodom
08-25-2007, 01:48 PM
i love the leap in logic, "he has dogs, he must somehow be involved in illegal dog fighting!"

It's been said already, but did you even fucking read the article? They didn't just find "dogs", they found dogs in "poor, inhumane conditions", and one of them was burned to death.

Considering that Vick has just agreed to snitch on anyone he knows to be involved in dogfighting, it's not a leap of faith to think this raid is no accident.

At least in the other Vick threads, you could profess to merely holding a wrong, sick, inconsistent view, but an opinion nonetheless.

Here, you're just factually wrong.

rsigley
08-25-2007, 02:02 PM
didn't dmx have dogs fighting in one of his videos

i forget which one

and i think he got in trouble with the law before for mistreating his dogs

thurst
08-25-2007, 02:04 PM
at vick's house they found rape stands, dog fighting pits, harnesses, etc...

here they found dogs that were in bad condition bcuz of NEGLECT and a dead dog, i wonder if you guys read the article? and they admit that they don't think DMX is anywhere near arizona. so if he was fighting his dogs, he left them in the desert sun for an extended period of time? how is that profitable again? i'm inclined to believe that whoever was supposed to be taking care of the dogs just took whatever money they were being paid and didn't do their job, as his attorney said.

rsigley
08-25-2007, 02:09 PM
oh here's the video

the dogs are trying to fight but they're being held back

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yZIZHzNkeHM

jay z is in the video too so he's probably involved in dog fighting too. i hope they raid his house next and they arrest the king of ny

Weeks
08-25-2007, 02:11 PM
man what is it with black peeps and dogs!? why cant yall just stick to sexin up white women instead of abusing poor animals

ViciousSLASH
08-25-2007, 02:11 PM
at vick's house they found rape stands, dog fighting pits, harnesses, etc...

here they found dogs that were in bad condition bcuz of NEGLECT and a dead dog, i wonder if you guys read the article? and they admit that they don't think DMX is anywhere near arizona. so if he was fighting his dogs, he left them in the desert sun for an extended period of time? how is that profitable again? i'm inclined to believe that whoever was supposed to be taking care of the dogs just took whatever money they were being paid and didn't do their job, as his attorney said.

Can't you just accept black people aren't smart enough to take care of dogs, let alone their own children?

People acting surprised that Vick and DMX are stupid.

Duh.

rsigley
08-25-2007, 02:13 PM
i hope you black people realize this is all revenge for getting Imus and other white DJ's fired

it took a couple months but we getting you back finally

Biolink
08-25-2007, 02:19 PM
You know what?

I'm going to take all yo White womens and Asian Womens away from you.They like the biggest dicks anyways.

Debaser
08-25-2007, 02:20 PM
You know what?

I'm going to take all yo White womens and Asian Womens away from you.They like the biggest dicks anyways.

Raiding your house for weed stashes in 3...2...1... GO1!!1

axeman61
08-25-2007, 02:22 PM
If the shunning of Michael Vick continues along this point, dude could lose up to 150 MILLION dollars (http://mediatakeout.com/10664/good_lawd_mike_vick_to_lose_150m_over_dogfighting_ mess.html)

The media is a beast when it has nothing else to do.

Rioting Soul
08-25-2007, 02:24 PM
If the shunning of Michael Vick continues along this point, dude could lose up to 150 MILLION dollars (http://mediatakeout.com/10664/good_lawd_mike_vick_to_lose_150m_over_dogfighting_ mess.html)

The media is a beast when it has nothing else to do.

Not enough white women to talk about.

Biolink
08-25-2007, 02:25 PM
RaIding your house for weed stashes in 3...2...1... GO1!!1

Dem niggas ain't gettin me

"Eats all of the weed".

axeman61
08-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Not enough white women to talk about.

Where are the serial killers when you need them?

thurst
08-25-2007, 02:34 PM
snip

hey whitey, did you ever make us black folk fight each other for scraps bacon or something back in the day? clearly we didn't come up with this nonsense on our own.

ViciousSLASH
08-25-2007, 02:36 PM
hey whitey, did you ever make us black folk fight each other for scraps bacon or something back in the day? clearly we didn't come up with this nonsense on our own.

That's like asking me if I make black people shoot each other over made up territory.

Ya'll just do that yourselves. I just have to make it so you guys are too poor to live where I live and then it all takes care of itself.

It's obvious you've never been white before.

Biolink
08-25-2007, 02:41 PM
That's like asking me if I make black people shoot each other over made up territory.

Ya'll just do that yourselves. I just have to make it so you guys are too poor to live where I live and then it all takes care of itself.

It's obvious you've never been white before.

I dreamed I was White before.

It was awesome.

Suffice to say,at least I'm light skinned...

white shadow
08-25-2007, 02:44 PM
at vick's house they found rape stands

come again?

Son Them All
08-25-2007, 02:46 PM
Ya'll just do that yourselves. I just have to make it so you guys are too poor to live where I live and then it all takes care of itself.



:rofl::rofl: Oh shit I just spit my drink out all over my floor. I may just have to return the favor and quote that. lmaooo God....how terribly racist yet hilarious. <3

Biolink
08-25-2007, 02:46 PM
come again?

Prolly something designed to lock Bitches(lulz)in a position so that the male dogs could do their business,and get the females pregnant so there is a steady influx of new dogs

From Yahoo answers

The rape stand is a truly inhuman device that dog fighters use
to make breeding safer between dogs that have been trained to be very aggressive towards other dogs. Usually there is not a lot of aggression between males and females in a breeding frame of mind. The amatuers that are fighting these dogs have bred and fostered such exteme aggression that it sometimes isnt even safe for pits of opposites sexes to attempt a natural breeding for fear of them shredding each other. So the female is spread eagled over a barrel or bench type device and restrained and muzzled so the male can breed her without risk.
Its about as unnatural as you can get. And proof that man (and by that I mean humankind) tends to make a mess of just about everything we lay our hands to. Pits are the most amazing dogs - loyal and super intelligent, when you witness that loyalty twisted by idiots with small penises and low self esteem use these lion hearted animals for sick gratification like this and then reward that loyalty with electrocution and prolonged deaths by hanging - it makes me lose faith in our ultimate right to survive on this planet afterall.
And no, a natural breeding usually isnt a forced thing, the "heat cycle" of a female dog hormonally inclines to her to WANT to be bred. There are females that resist breeding but usually both are more than willing participants.
I knew about the dogfighting thing because I used to rescue and rehab street fighters when I was a much younger woman in LA in the 80s. But I gave it up after a while after being threatened with guns and getting too old to brace gangsters face to face about their cruelty. But I do love this breed, they are probably the one of the best breeds to own there is if you know what you're doing. You'll never own a more loyal dog.
Breaks my damn heart.

axeman61
08-25-2007, 02:47 PM
come again?

A little swish in Google suggests they're stands the females are tied down to for breeding.

Edit: Damnit.

Debaser
08-25-2007, 02:49 PM
Prolly something designed to lock Bitches(lulz)in a position so that the male dogs could do their business,and get the females pregnant so there is a steady influx of new dogs

....Vick probably used them for his own purposes....

axeman61
08-25-2007, 02:50 PM
Do you think that's how Crying Wolf was born?

white shadow
08-25-2007, 02:53 PM
A little swish in Google suggests they're stands the females are tied down to for breeding.

Edit: Damnit.

Thanks.

What an unusual name for "technical term." Especially for something like animal coitus.



Axeman: Rep'D "ARROOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" :rofl:

Biolink
08-25-2007, 02:53 PM
....Vick probably used them for his own purposes....

Yah.

As Ron Mexico he is a star in bondage porn(And also spreading herpes).

Hyperhal
08-25-2007, 03:00 PM
oh here's the video

the dogs are trying to fight but they're being held back

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yZIZHzNkeHM

jay z is in the video too so he's probably involved in dog fighting too. i hope they raid his house next and they arrest the king of ny

Seeing as how Beyonce is linked indefinitely to Jay Z, I can only pray that they lock up the monster she is for doing such things to those poor doggies.

In other news, DMX has pled innocent on account that one of the dogs found in his home was in fact himself. When asked to explain the situation, he replied with two barks followed by "the dog is here"

Debaser
08-25-2007, 03:10 PM
Yah.

As Ron Mexico he is a star in bondage porn(And also spreading herpes).

VICK GON GIVE IT TO YA
HE'S GON GIVE IT TO YA

Can't wait for the Jessica Alba remix.

Biolink
08-25-2007, 03:22 PM
The Jessica Alba Remix

Starring Micheal Vick and featuring Derek Jeter.

thurst
08-25-2007, 03:27 PM
Thanks.

What an unusual name for "technical term." Especially for something like animal coitus.

yeah it is a pretty extreme name, when i first looked it up i was expecting something a lot worse, but whatever i digress.

axeman61
08-25-2007, 03:51 PM
That is weird. If you called Kleenex "Jizz Shot Wipers," you wouldn't expect something that could wipe your nose (and ass if you run out of Shit Catcher Paper).

Taichi
08-25-2007, 04:09 PM
I dreamed I was White before.

It was awesome.

Suffice to say,at least I'm light skinned...

oh jeezus, this shit is just too real.

I need prem so I can rep you guys.:rofl:

at least if you live past 50 your hair will turn white!

Muff Daddy
08-25-2007, 04:11 PM
yeah it is a pretty extreme name, when i first looked it up i was expecting something a lot worse, but whatever i digress.

i guess it's better than Michael Vick's Rape Distribution Center.

Biolink
08-25-2007, 04:23 PM
oh jeezus, this shit is just too real.

I need prem so I can rep you guys.:rofl:

at least if you live past 50 your hair will turn white!

I hope the High Blood Pressure+Diabetes assist doesn't catch up to me before then.

R.P.D rookie
08-25-2007, 04:27 PM
i guess it's better than Michael Vick's Rape Distribution Center.

Or "Bad News Kennels".:rofl:

Boy, Vick really foreshadowed his future with that name.

R.P.D rookie
08-25-2007, 04:41 PM
Just saw on the news that police went by Britney Spears house today because neighbors said her little dog was being treated poorly but Spears wasn't present when authorities stopped by.


LOL, looks like a hot new trend.

Muff Daddy
08-25-2007, 04:42 PM
Or "Bad News Kennels".:rofl:

Boy, Vick really foreshadowed his future with that name.

yeah that name really came back to bite him in the ass.

i still can't get over "rape stand", though. the name just makes me think of this:

DeathReaper47
08-25-2007, 04:45 PM
yeah that name really came back to bite him in the ass.

i still can't get over "rape stand", though. the name just makes me think of this:

Michael Jackson preordered the fuckin' booth.

axeman61
08-25-2007, 04:49 PM
Kid's selling ass for a nickel more than the lemonade. That's just skanky.

ThePurpleBunny
08-25-2007, 04:50 PM
Depending on the whore, 55 cents may be a rip-off.

Taichi
08-25-2007, 04:52 PM
if the whore is my mom, 5 cents is a rip off.

Raziel321
08-25-2007, 04:54 PM
Ya'll just do that yourselves. I just have to make it so you guys are too poor to live where I live and then it all takes care of itself.




:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


this is what i love about not being black or white. its like being in the stands of the Colosseum watching gladiators kill each other

Muff Daddy
08-25-2007, 04:59 PM
shit, i don't know how i missed this:

man what is it with black peeps and dogs!? why cant yall just stick to sexin up white women instead of abusing poor animals

...with the type of white women that most niggas are sexin' up its hard to tell the difference.

axeman61
08-25-2007, 05:15 PM
if the whore is my mom, 5 cents is a rip off.

Well, at least I can break a nickel.

Biolink
08-25-2007, 05:17 PM
shit, i don't know how i missed this:



...with the type of white women that most niggas are sexin' up its hard to tell the difference.

On the contrary here in Chicago,the sophisticated,educated,black men have smoking hot White women

Muff Daddy
08-25-2007, 05:33 PM
On the contrary here in Chicago,the sophisticated,educated,black men have smoking hot White women

yeah, but the sophisticated, educated black men aren't fighting dogs either.

Monte
08-25-2007, 05:34 PM
Or "Bad News Kennels".:rofl:

Boy, Vick really foreshadowed his future with that name.

Actually it's, Bad Newz Kennels :confused::lol:

R.P.D rookie
08-25-2007, 06:14 PM
Actually it's, Bad Newz Kennels :confused::lol:


You know, I jokingly have typed it out like that to friends to add that "XTREME" attitude to it but if you're being serious then.:rofl:

white shadow
08-25-2007, 06:31 PM
yeah that name really came back to bite him in the ass.

i still can't get over "rape stand", though. the name just makes me think of this:

How about:

Vick's™ Raper Rub?

Muff Daddy
08-25-2007, 06:35 PM
How about:

Vicks™ Raper Rub

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

man, you've been killing me lately.

catchafire
08-25-2007, 09:46 PM
I think the black community needs to take jabs at his friends who SNITCHED on dude as well. Talking about how the man (white people/media) are bashing is one thing, but to let it slide how his "boyz" snitched on him for paper is another.

b00mshakalaka
08-25-2007, 10:12 PM
^nice screename,sooo awesome


Okay SRK, if you're black, HIDE. The white man's gonna getcha.

aint gonna catch me!

Biolink
08-25-2007, 10:15 PM
I think the black community needs to take jabs at his friends who SNITCHED on dude as well. Talking about how the man (white people/media) are bashing is one thing, but to let it slide how his "boyz" snitched on him for paper is another.

"DON'T SNITCH!"

:rofl:

That's just a myth.Niggas will tell in a second to save their ass.

Murt!
08-25-2007, 10:25 PM
Dark Man X is srs business

b00mshakalaka
08-25-2007, 10:31 PM
"DON'T SNITCH!"

:rofl:

That's just a myth.Niggas will tell in a second to save their ass.

truth told,Ill admit ill snitch in a second without hesitation:rofl:

axeman61
08-25-2007, 10:40 PM
I'll let all the snitch out if they could somehow promise I'd never see porn again otherwise.

Weeks
08-25-2007, 10:53 PM
...with the type of white women that most niggas are sexin' up its hard to tell the difference.

:rofl:

SlayerofBodom
08-25-2007, 11:38 PM
I think the black community needs to take jabs at his friends who SNITCHED on dude as well. Talking about how the man (white people/media) are bashing is one thing, but to let it slide how his "boyz" snitched on him for paper is another.

If Vick wasn't dumber than a box of broken crayons, he might not even have faced this entire shitstorm.

See, the whole reason his once-friends accepted the plea deals is because Mr. Ron Mexico completely back-stabbed and snitched on them when the initial allegations broke.

Had he refrained from doing so, who knows how far the federal prosecutors could have gone with zero witnesses?

I guess the Vicks are just failures at life, despite being gifted with more natural athletic ability than most sports superstars can even dream of.

TS
08-25-2007, 11:46 PM
Regarding the guns, I guess its a precaution to all them other mother cats you gun with, you run with.

:rofl:

Airthrow
08-26-2007, 12:49 AM
Top two things black people do to discredit anything they say in everyone's eyes:

1) Call people racist, randomly, for no reason whenever they feel like it.

2) Defend other black people who do bad things just because their skin color is the same.

My uncle told me "If I'm ever on a jury and the guy is black, NOT GUILTY!" Black people. :rolleyes:

I (half black, look white) was in my cubicle at work when a black he/she (I am seriously not sure of the sex) was standing in my cubicle in the corner to talk to someone on the cubicle to my right. The person in the cubicle to my left said "Wow, you don't mind they're in your space."

I said "I can see my computer monitor, it's not really bothering me so I don't care."
He/she/it turns to me and says "YOU RACIST!" and not in a joking manner. TO ME. The one who just said I don't CARE if they're standing in my cubicle to talk to my neighbor.

No one has any respect for black people because we pull the race card for no reason, or even just for kicks. Then when we don't get our way we go on wild goosechases to find the racism to explain our failures.

I hope thurst is just trying to play Devil's advocate and really isn't pulling an OJ cus I am sick of this.

TS
08-26-2007, 01:28 AM
So much truth.

"AWW MAN, IF YOU'RE BLACK YOU BETTER WATCH OUT, 'CAUSE THEY GONNA ARREST YOU. :rolleyes: "

NO, niggas! If you're black, and run an ILLEGAL DOGFIGHTING RING, then maybe you have some shit to worry about.

But Airthrow has it 100%- the modern sterotype about black people isn't about being dumb, or ghetto, etc. It's playing the fucking race card all the time, for bullshit reasons.

For people to automatically jump to the defense of OJ/Michael Vick/Tookie "I shoot old people in the face" Williams/R. Kelly etc is bullshit, because, at best, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You don't get to call people racist just because you don't like them. That shit is retarded also, and fits right into the stereotype.

To paraphrase Chris Rock when he was talking about politicians, no decent human being makes up their mind before they hear the fucking issue. Now, I'm all for "innocent until proven guilty," but I should hope you have an informed opinion, and aren't a paranoid racist shitbag.

Shit, you wanna get on your high horse and talk about social injustice?? If you were some random guy accused of what Vick was accused of with the same evidence and co-conspirators, they would have locked you UP. There would be no plea deal, you would have been in some Spiral/Sabretooth shit, with broken buttons and time running out. They arrest black people for no reason, right? R.Kelly. What? O.J. Simpson. Who? Shit, how many rappers profess criminal acts, and then get PAID for it? Raise your hand if you DON'T think Suge Knight is a criminal?

Money and/or Fame > Race. For free.

As for the whole DMX thing, honestly, he needs to just STOP. I'm with the Pet Cemetary theory, so I think these charges need to DROP. As for the people paid to watch his dogs, they should SHUT 'EM DOWN so they can never OPEN UP SHOP again. OH....NO-O.

axeman61
08-26-2007, 01:51 AM
As for the whole DMX thing, honestly, he needs to just STOP. I'm with the Pet Cemetary theory, so I think these charges need to DROP. As for the people paid to watch his dogs, they should SHUT 'EM DOWN so they can never OPEN UP SHOP again. OH....NO-O.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Oh man. But I hate "race idiots" as much as you guys do. Just because they're a little ineffective and annoying nowadays. The race card is powerful when warranted. When it gets whored out it loses it's steam and credibility. Too many people whoring it out on BS.
But I'll still listen to some R.Kelly though. Unless they tell me the chicks on his hard drive haven't reached double digits yet. That's just wrong.

Ali M
08-26-2007, 01:57 AM
Smh@ all this media attention...


We need Michael to suck off another kid again...

Weeks
08-26-2007, 02:26 AM
holy shit i'm dying. this fucking thread proves, once again, that SRK brings the realness and is the least politically correct forum on the face of the planet

axeman61
08-26-2007, 02:50 AM
Smh@ all this media attention...


We need Michael to suck off another kid again...

Maybe this time people will discover a BJ from Mike cures cancer.

I'm going to bed...

RockBogart
08-26-2007, 03:56 AM
For those who havent realized it by now, Indefinite Suspension actually works in Vick and the NFLs favor. Indefinite Suspensions can be overturned at the drop of a hat and also it makes it you look like your being tough in him to majority of the public. That way the NFL saves face, and Vick could go back to playing as soon as his sentence is up.

And word on the street is, Vick's mother ex husband; his former step dad, is diming him out to reporters for 4 months rent. His former step dad is apparently putting together a book for 4 FUCKING MONTHS WORTH OF RENT. Hes going to ruin someone he once called son for some fucking rent money!......niggas man, niggas.

BIGWORM
08-26-2007, 04:12 AM
AY AY! Don't be saying "*******." <--That shit'll get you banned over at TZ.

BUT! What Vick's step-dad is doing IS mad niggerish, though.

RockBogart
08-26-2007, 04:14 AM
Quoting bannable things also get you banned in most places.

BIGWORM
08-26-2007, 04:18 AM
I was exaggerating a bit. The ban hammer only came when one bitch-mod went to other bitch-mods and bitched to Castel.

NYUKAH!

Starhammer
08-26-2007, 05:31 AM
if the whore is my mom, 5 cents is a rip off.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Someone please rep this man?

-Starhammer-

Starhammer
08-26-2007, 05:38 AM
So much truth.

"AWW MAN, IF YOU'RE BLACK YOU BETTER WATCH OUT, 'CAUSE THEY GONNA ARREST YOU. :rolleyes: "

NO, niggas! If you're black, and run an ILLEGAL DOGFIGHTING RING, then maybe you have some shit to worry about.

But Airthrow has it 100%- the modern sterotype about black people isn't about being dumb, or ghetto, etc. It's playing the fucking race card all the time, for bullshit reasons.

For people to automatically jump to the defense of OJ/Michael Vick/Tookie "I shoot old people in the face" Williams/R. Kelly etc is bullshit, because, at best, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You don't get to call people racist just because you don't like them. That shit is retarded also, and fits right into the stereotype.

To paraphrase Chris Rock when he was talking about politicians, no decent human being makes up their mind before they hear the fucking issue. Now, I'm all for "innocent until proven guilty," but I should hope you have an informed opinion, and aren't a paranoid racist shitbag.

Shit, you wanna get on your high horse and talk about social injustice?? If you were some random guy accused of what Vick was accused of with the same evidence and co-conspirators, they would have locked you UP. There would be no plea deal, you would have been in some Spiral/Sabretooth shit, with broken buttons and time running out. They arrest black people for no reason, right? R.Kelly. What? O.J. Simpson. Who? Shit, how many rappers profess criminal acts, and then get PAID for it? Raise your hand if you DON'T think Suge Knight is a criminal?

Money and/or Fame > Race. For free.

As for the whole DMX thing, honestly, he needs to just STOP. I'm with the Pet Cemetary theory, so I think these charges need to DROP. As for the people paid to watch his dogs, they should SHUT 'EM DOWN so they can never OPEN UP SHOP again. OH....NO-O.


:tup: @ the realism. someone please rep this man.

-Starhammer-

Unreallystic
08-26-2007, 07:03 AM
at vick's house they found rape stands, dog fighting pits, harnesses, etc...

here they found dogs that were in bad condition bcuz of NEGLECT and a dead dog, i wonder if you guys read the article? and they admit that they don't think DMX is anywhere near arizona. so if he was fighting his dogs, he left them in the desert sun for an extended period of time? how is that profitable again? i'm inclined to believe that whoever was supposed to be taking care of the dogs just took whatever money they were being paid and didn't do their job, as his attorney said.

::Crank's Dat Unreallystic::
"UUUUUUEEEE:
I co-sign this and want to add that it is VERY feasible as well, depending on the way the remins were foudn that they attempted to cremate the dog themselves after it died. Too many facts with not enouh details...
- :bluu:


"UUUUUEEEEEEE:

thurst
08-26-2007, 07:05 AM
snip

realistically, vick was done in when his boy got caught with drugs and then gave vick's address.

I hope thurst is just trying to play Devil's advocate and really isn't pulling an OJ cus I am sick of this.

what does "pulling an OJ" even mean in this context? OJ was innocent last time i checked. nothing about the public facts of the case suggest DMX had anything to do with dogfighting besides him having dogs. does he fight dogs? idk maybe, but if the evidence suggests that he's guilty of negligence then charge him with that shit and keep it moving, don't be like "yeah he neglects his dogs....and we're gonna just throw out the possibility that he fights dogs too, ya know just bcuz we found a copy of madden '06 with vick on the cover and vick fights dogs so the logical conclusion is blah blah blah"

catchafire
08-26-2007, 07:40 AM
For those who havent realized it by now, Indefinite Suspension actually works in Vick and the NFLs favor. Indefinite Suspensions can be overturned at the drop of a hat and also it makes it you look like your being tough in him to majority of the public. That way the NFL saves face, and Vick could go back to playing as soon as his sentence is up.

And word on the street is, Vick's mother ex husband; his former step dad, is diming him out to reporters for 4 months rent. His former step dad is apparently putting together a book for 4 FUCKING MONTHS WORTH OF RENT. Hes going to ruin someone he once called son for some fucking rent money!......niggas man, niggas.

This is what i'm talking about. Why don't people address this? Why do people associate themselves with trash, when they can obviously do better? Couldn't Vick have gotten into better society and found other hobbies besides killing/fighting/trafficking/training pittbulls? No, he decides to associate himself with people of character that will snitch on you for a dime.

Weeks
08-26-2007, 09:51 AM
what does "pulling an OJ" even mean in this context? OJ was innocent last time i checked.

come on now. just because he was acquitted doesn't mean you seriously believe he was innocent, right?

Panicked
08-26-2007, 09:54 AM
realistically, vick was done in when his boy got caught with drugs and then gave vick's address.



what does "pulling an OJ" even mean in this context? OJ was innocent last time i checked. nothing about the public facts of the case suggest DMX had anything to do with dogfighting besides him having dogs. does he fight dogs? idk maybe, but if the evidence suggests that he's guilty of negligence then charge him with that shit and keep it moving, don't be like "yeah he neglects his dogs....and we're gonna just throw out the possibility that he fights dogs too, ya know just bcuz we found a copy of madden '06 with vick on the cover and vick fights dogs so the logical conclusion is blah blah blah"

There's a reason defendants are considered "not guilty" instead of "innocent."

thurst
08-26-2007, 10:17 AM
i don't really have an opinion on whether OJ did it or not, i don't think it's inconceivable that he didn't do it. but i honestly hope he did slice those 2 up and had a good time doing it since he ended up having to pay like $30 million to the families on some bullshit.

and "not guilty" = opposite of guilty aka...innocent of the crime.

Anubis
08-26-2007, 10:20 AM
dmx is about the fruitiest hardcore rapper i've seen. i remember when mtv followed his life for a week. and this dude is talking about how hard he is how niggas dont get his hard life. and how he has been fighting and just being the dog he is....all while he's getting a manicure.I have to strongly concur. A few years ago he came to Philly where his entourage & he decided to go shopping at The Gallery (downtown shopping mall). They all went to a certain store & it had to be closed off to the public because of his high-celebrity status. I just wanted to check out what was happening & my g/f wanted to see him in person.

The guy started posing in the store what he was trying on & wouldn't sign any autographs :arazz: Some hardcore rapper he is!

This looks really bad for DMX considering what's going on with the Michael Vick case (talk about bad timing).

Joe Arpaio is well-known as being one of the toughest sheriffs in the country. He created what he called "tent city" (a county prison in the middle of the desert with a neon sign that says "Vacancy".).

...and what's up with that weapons cache that was confiscated?! If this becomes a federal case chances are slim if him winning if he is indicted. :sweat:

Taichi
08-26-2007, 10:23 AM
come on now. just because he was acquitted doesn't mean you seriously believe he was innocent, right?

According to the law, he is Not Guilty, but Liable.

I believe he did it, but the law believes he didn't. For what its worth.

Anubis
08-26-2007, 10:27 AM
come on now. just because he was acquitted doesn't mean you seriously believe he was innocent, right?I'm not even sure how O. J. Simpson even fits into this thread. :confused:

rsigley
08-26-2007, 10:31 AM
anytime a black person does something wrong OJ is eventually brought up

it's just a golden rule

RoninChaos
08-26-2007, 10:41 AM
So much truth.

"AWW MAN, IF YOU'RE BLACK YOU BETTER WATCH OUT, 'CAUSE THEY GONNA ARREST YOU. :rolleyes: "

NO, niggas! If you're black, and run an ILLEGAL DOGFIGHTING RING, then maybe you have some shit to worry about.

But Airthrow has it 100%- the modern sterotype about black people isn't about being dumb, or ghetto, etc. It's playing the fucking race card all the time, for bullshit reasons.

For people to automatically jump to the defense of OJ/Michael Vick/Tookie "I shoot old people in the face" Williams/R. Kelly etc is bullshit, because, at best, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You don't get to call people racist just because you don't like them. That shit is retarded also, and fits right into the stereotype.

To paraphrase Chris Rock when he was talking about politicians, no decent human being makes up their mind before they hear the fucking issue. Now, I'm all for "innocent until proven guilty," but I should hope you have an informed opinion, and aren't a paranoid racist shitbag.

Shit, you wanna get on your high horse and talk about social injustice?? If you were some random guy accused of what Vick was accused of with the same evidence and co-conspirators, they would have locked you UP. There would be no plea deal, you would have been in some Spiral/Sabretooth shit, with broken buttons and time running out. They arrest black people for no reason, right? R.Kelly. What? O.J. Simpson. Who? Shit, how many rappers profess criminal acts, and then get PAID for it? Raise your hand if you DON'T think Suge Knight is a criminal?

Money and/or Fame > Race. For free.

As for the whole DMX thing, honestly, he needs to just STOP. I'm with the Pet Cemetary theory, so I think these charges need to DROP. As for the people paid to watch his dogs, they should SHUT 'EM DOWN so they can never OPEN UP SHOP again. OH....NO-O.


There was actually a huge argument at my job yesterday about this shit. One of my coworkers literally said Vick was only getting fucked with cause he was black. Nobody talked to him for the rest of the day, but it really does make me wonder how preconditioned some black people are to jump to such conclussions without even THINKING about what happened. It couldn't be that Vick did something ILLEGAL. It's cause he's black.

Even my boss, who's black, was like "Uh, didn't he admit to being involved in an interstate gambling venture, along with various dog fighting ventures? Didn't he admit to killing dogs? I mean, didn't he ADMIT TO THIS?! At this point he's not guilty because he's black, he's guilty because he's GUILTY. They're not fucking with him because he's black, they're fucking with him because he's considered a criminal."

Jesus fucking CHRIST.

I'm not even going to get into it, but that shit does get fucking OLD. It's all about who you hang with. Mike's problem was he didn't have a hobby to go along with all that money except something grimy that was going to get his ass in trouble. Stupid fuck.

Hyperhal
08-26-2007, 10:47 AM
As for the whole DMX thing, honestly, he needs to just STOP. I'm with the Pet Cemetary theory, so I think these charges need to DROP. As for the people paid to watch his dogs, they should SHUT 'EM DOWN so they can never OPEN UP SHOP again. OH....NO-O.

I can't wait to rep this post :rofl:

Panicked
08-26-2007, 10:53 AM
i don't really have an opinion on whether OJ did it or not, i don't think it's inconceivable that he didn't do it. but i honestly hope he did slice those 2 up and had a good time doing it since he ended up having to pay like $30 million to the families on some bullshit.

and "not guilty" = opposite of guilty aka...innocent of the crime.

There's a difference. In a court, the burden of proof is on the prosecutor; the defense attorney only really has to prove that he might not of done it. You can prove that he probably didn't do it without actually proving he didn't do it.

RockBogart
08-26-2007, 11:00 AM
Well according to Mike's step dad, the dog fighting goes back to fights he had in his garage back in high school. Or thats at least what hes telling reporters. An inmate showed me a Pit bull kennel and supply catalog last night. Apparently this shits a lot deeper than I thought. Hell, they even got a portable pit bull tread mill for cardio training.

Taichi
08-26-2007, 11:02 AM
Regarding OJ: The motherfucker did it.

and $30,000,000 to kill two people is a fucking bargain, motherfucker got off LIGHT.

some rich piece of shit like OJ Simpson killed MY son, and he would NOT survive.


Ron Goldman's father has been within shooting distance of OJ Simpson numerous times in the last decade, eventually I'd get a fucking shot off.

Muff Daddy
08-26-2007, 11:09 AM
I'm not even going to get into it, but that shit does get fucking OLD. It's all about who you hang with. Mike's problem was he didn't have a hobby to go along with all that money except something grimy that was going to get his ass in trouble. Stupid fuck.

exactly. dude needs a better fucking hobby. i mean, why not do something productive like my mans and them, who get it on on the strength of the hands with them? ...man.

Pimp Willy
08-26-2007, 11:46 AM
Actually, OJ was found guilty in a later court case, thats why he owes all the money.

RockBogart
08-26-2007, 11:51 AM
Actually, OJ was found guilty in a later court case, thats why he owes all the money.

That was a civil case. And civil cases require less evidence. And technically in civil suits, you aint gotta pay shit.

Debaser
08-26-2007, 12:06 PM
The civil case was like saying "we know you did it but we can't prove it without reasonable doubt so we'll just take half your shit."

shinblanka
08-26-2007, 12:27 PM
There was actually a huge argument at my job yesterday about this shit. One of my coworkers literally said Vick was only getting fucked with cause he was black. Nobody talked to him for the rest of the day, but it really does make me wonder how preconditioned some black people are to jump to such conclussions without even THINKING about what happened. It couldn't be that Vick did something ILLEGAL. It's cause he's black.

Even my boss, who's black, was like "Uh, didn't he admit to being involved in an interstate gambling venture, along with various dog fighting ventures? Didn't he admit to killing dogs? I mean, didn't he ADMIT TO THIS?! At this point he's not guilty because he's black, he's guilty because he's GUILTY. They're not fucking with him because he's black, they're fucking with him because he's considered a criminal."

Jesus fucking CHRIST.

I'm not even going to get into it, but that shit does get fucking OLD. It's all about who you hang with. Mike's problem was he didn't have a hobby to go along with all that money except something grimy that was going to get his ass in trouble. Stupid fuck.

Well you know people in the ATL love mike vick to a fault. The mothafucka is guilty. I'm a long time falcon fan and he lied to me, to you, to the owner of the falcons(auther blank), to the nfl commish, and to the state police. It wasn't until the feds got involved when shit started to leak out and his SO CALLED FRIENDS started to snitch on his ass. As a falcon fan I wanted him to get his chance in court to prove that he was innocent, but that fucker was lying the whole time. Why else would you cop a plea to the feds? I know why because there was only 2 choices he had imo. He could plea guilty or be found guilty.

This wasn't about him being black this was about making the right choices in his life. He choose to fight dogs instead of playing videogames. Hell I would have let him into finalround for free if I have known he was going to kill his career and dogs within a 6 year period. This ain't a case of mike vick hanging around the wrong people. Mike vick bought that house in surry county right after he got his signing bonus from getting drafted in 2001 for the purpose of fighting dogs under the front of a legal breeder business.

If you read the indietment, most of his criminal activities happen when he was hurt in 2003 when he hurt his leg in preseason against the ravens. I remember when he got hurt they said he would be out for 4-6 weeks. That fucker was out for 10 weeks. Instead of working hard on his rehab that fucker was fighting and transporting dogs from state to state.

It's time stop making excusses for black people that fuck up. Sometimes it's not a black and white thing. Some people are stupid. Black, white or other! Mike Vick was given the biggest contract in the NFL. He was the king of the ATL and one of the top 5 faces of the NFL (marketing wise) and what does he do with that power and fame.

HE FIGHT'S DOGS LIKE SOME DUMBASS Mike vick didn't care about his team, the nfl, or his sponsers. Mike vick cared about mike vick. He showed it in his words during #'s of interviews on local tv/radio and in his action's. He fucked my team and city for years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mike vick was given every chance in life to change who he was and where he came from.

I kinda feel sorry for him because he wasn't raised in a healthy family relationship with his dad. His dad is the scum of the earth. He turned on mike because mike wouldn't give him a million dollars spread out over 12 years. Mind you mike already pays that fuckers rent, bills, rehab and gives him a couple hundred every week, but he still wanted more. With that bastard as a father rolemodel i'm surprized mike made it to the nfl.

Well I hope he get's his life together, but he'll never play in the nfl again imo.

My .02
pissed off black man and ATL native.
There is no M.Vick for me anymore.:annoy::wasted:
Mike Vick=THE BIGGEST WASTE OF GOD GIVEN TALENT IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS!!!!

Airthrow
08-26-2007, 12:44 PM
and "not guilty" = opposite of guilty aka...innocent of the crime.

Nice try. Not guilty= there was reasonable doubt, i.e., a person when presented with the evidence could reasonably have doubts that the person committed the crime, i.e, there's a POSSIBILITY they could not have done in.

So in other words, no.

I'm not even sure how O. J. Simpson even fits into this thread. :confused:

Black people supported his guilty ass for no reason other than he was famous and black, just like thurst wouldn't have DMX's back if his name was Vladimir. And I don't even assume DMX was fighting the dogs, but he should be in trouble if he was, and he should also be in trouble for neglecting the dogs and having them in bad conditions, multiple times. Oh, and the weapons cache.

Autocrat1
08-26-2007, 12:44 PM
I blame all this on China.

If the Chinese just ate these dogs we wouldn't have all these shenanigans. "Lead" by example, America.

What? What? C'mon...

Luciano Leone
08-26-2007, 12:52 PM
I skimmed through pages 2-5 and I have to say I disagree with some folks here.

Okay so regardless of whether DMX fought the dogs, regardless of whether the charred remains of a dog was a cremation, they still found fucked up dogs in deplorable conditions at the home of DMX. That's grounds enough to seize them, medically fix them and give them new homes, if not some charge of animal neglect on DMX.

Biolink
08-26-2007, 01:29 PM
This is a case of Either,Or with DMX.

DMX owned this house in Arizona and paid a caretake to watch after the dogs.This could easily be a case of somebody just collecting a paycheck and not doing what they are supposed to be doing.The article didn't say anything about Dogfighting Equipment.We just know DMX owned alot of dogs and they were living in shitty conditions

Hyperhal
08-26-2007, 01:42 PM
What made me laugh was how they found the charred remains of another dog. Yeah yeah I know its sad to see something diethat way, but just picture coming back from a 3 month vacation and finding your dog on fire in the backyard.

Shit is so random

thurst
08-26-2007, 02:06 PM
Nice try. Not guilty= there was reasonable doubt, i.e., a person when presented with the evidence could reasonably have doubts that the person committed the crime, i.e, there's a POSSIBILITY they could not have done in.[/b]

so any reasonable person could believe he's innocent...but when black people believe it all of a sudden we're supporting his "guilty ass" [insert irrational anger on your part here]...yeah ok guy, whatever.

Black people supported his guilty ass for no reason other than he was famous and black, just like thurst wouldn't have DMX's back if his name was Vladimir. And I don't even assume DMX was fighting the dogs, but he should be in trouble if he was, and he should also be in trouble for neglecting the dogs and having them in bad conditions, multiple times. Oh, and the weapons cache.

the sheriff doesn't have evidence to charge or link him with dog fighting and shouldn't be publicly speculating about it, plain and simple. those facts would be the same whether it's DMX or whoever. and you're right, if his name was vladimir i wouldn't have his back, also if his name was vladimir the AP wouldn't have picked up the story and the sheriff wouldn't be rambling off wild speculation to reporters, so there'd be no reason for me to have an opinion one way or the other.

BEWD
08-26-2007, 02:13 PM
What made me laugh was how they found the charred remains of another dog. Yeah yeah I know its sad to see something diethat way, but just picture coming back from a 3 month vacation and finding your dog on fire in the backyard.

Shit is so random

Hot dog

Airthrow
08-26-2007, 02:21 PM
so any reasonable person could believe he's innocent...but when black people believe it all of a sudden we're supporting his "guilty ass" [insert irrational anger on your part here]...yeah ok guy, whatever.

I'm through trying to explain what reasonable doubt means to your brain.

Dasrik
08-26-2007, 03:42 PM
"Not guilty" does not mean innocent. Anyone who's watched Law & Order for one second knows that.

SlayerofBodom
08-26-2007, 04:05 PM
what does "pulling an OJ" even mean in this context? OJ was innocent last time i checked. nothing about the public facts of the case suggest DMX had anything to do with dogfighting besides him having dogs. does he fight dogs? idk maybe, but if the evidence suggests that he's guilty of negligence then charge him with that shit and keep it moving, don't be like "yeah he neglects his dogs....and we're gonna just throw out the possibility that he fights dogs too, ya know just bcuz we found a copy of madden '06 with vick on the cover and vick fights dogs so the logical conclusion is blah blah blah"

For someone that can type out a coherent sentence and is going to a legitimate four-year college, you certainly are one dumb motherfucker.

OJ Simpson innocent? After essentially admitting to the murder in his book "If I Did It", a 911 call from his wife saying his husband was going to kill her (a few minutes before she died) that Jonnie Cochran successfully blocked from the court, and a mountain of forensic evidence?

Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit conspiracy theories.

As for DMX, stop changing the facts to suit your version of events.

The idiot's property was found with BADLY MISTREATED dogs, one of them burned to death, and this comes on the heels of the Vick case, so it's liable Ron Mexico ratted him out.

"Someone who was paid to take care of the dogs and didn't" is your shallow, pathetic argument for what happened? Jesus, what kind of a fucking unicorn-filled fantasy world do you live in?

You think that people being paid considerable amounts of money to care for dogs would allow them to fall into such a state, or burn one of them to death?

That might be the stupidest motherfucking thing you've ever written, and that's saying an awful lot.

Edit

and you're right, if his name was vladimir i wouldn't have his back

Well, at least you're honest about being a racist.

thurst
08-27-2007, 05:42 AM
"innocent until proven guilty"...in the eyes of the law, not guilty DOES mean innocent public opinion is another story but at the end of the day public opinion doesn't mean shit. in the same way that innocent people who get dicked over at trial are considered guilty as well, ask jerry miller.

snip

learn to read. "charred remains of a dog" != burned to death. what facts in the article contradict my supposed "shallow, pathetic argument"? the dogs were fed/given water once a day by somebody and DMX isn't believed to have been in the state for awhile...so what mystery person is half-assedly taking care of the animals? chances are somebody that was paid to do it and not doing a good job. or maybe the dogs are getting their own water and then tying themselves back up to the tree, right?
any speculation that doesn't end with "yeah he's obviously fighting dogs!" isn't automatically flawed, get over yourself.

i like how me saying i wouldn't have his back bcuz nobody would hear him equates to me being racist.

I'm through trying to explain what reasonable doubt means to your brain.


maybe you should explain it to yourself first.

SlayerofBodom
08-27-2007, 06:03 AM
"innocent until proven guilty"...in the eyes of the law, not guilty DOES mean innocent public opinion is another story but at the end of the day public opinion doesn't mean shit. in the same way that innocent people who get dicked over at trial are considered guilty as well, ask jerry miller.

How is this even tangentially related to the subject at hand? Look, none of us are investigators, and none of us are on the jury. We're simply speculating based upon news reports. But you arrogantly trying to shut that down is stupid, considering this is a message board of all things.

Furthermore, arguing that nothing improper happened means you haven't read the article, or have simply ignored it.

At the very least, DMX is guilty of criminal neglect. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then it probably isn't an eagle, now is it?

the dogs were fed/given water once a day by somebody and DMX isn't believed to have been in the state for awhile...so what mystery person is half-assedly taking care of the animals?

No, it means that the person hired by DMX was doing more than just providing food and shelter for these animals. What exactly that is....one can only speculate.

But DMX is clearly in the wrong here, and taking into account the likelihood of Ron Mexico ratting him out....there's a good chance there's a lot more to this than even criminal neglect.


i like how me saying i wouldn't have his back bcuz nobody would hear him equates to me being racist.


You said you wouldn't have his back if his name was Vladimir not BECAUSE no one would hear it, but aside from it.

Honestly thurst, you seem like a moderately intelligent individual, so I'm constantly amazed when you try to defend or condone the completely perverted, retarded, and inexcusable.

....Are you training to be a lawyer?

Satomiblood
08-27-2007, 06:14 AM
Black people are funny.

But seriously, Mike Vick is just another Isiah Rider/Lawrence Phillips type that's always getting into trouble. I can't fathom why they never learn from their past experiences. Maybe they're just addicted to this kind of lifestyle.

white shadow
08-27-2007, 06:17 AM
Somebody seems to be having fun...

The Green Trench Coat
08-27-2007, 06:21 AM
to be honest..

I don't think he'd hurt these animals .. when they have given him so much lyrically.


Who knew you could rhyme bitch with "arf"
and did you ever stop to think about how saying "WHAT!!" is only a natural progression to "Grrrr"


That said. I actually do like alot of dmx work. I know alot of his music sounds like it's written by a really really bad 12 year old kid who's got an obsession with being a half dog half man drill sargeant. But when you are angry and want some tunes to capture how your feeling... there is a dmx song that will capture that for you.

"I knew what i been doing, everyday that i been doing it. See some niggas having a good time.... i'm gonna ruin it. Fuck you and fuck your man both ya'll niggas is puss fronting like you out the jungle but aint never seen a bush" - from some X Shit

It's a silly song but i actually aggree with 95% of what hes saying on that track...
even the barking... but especially the barking.

RockBogart
08-27-2007, 07:33 AM
Just looked at ESPN.......getting downtown for class is going to be a bitch.:sad:

versus addict
08-27-2007, 08:01 AM
...i love the leap in logic, "he has dogs, he must somehow be involved in illegal dog fighting!"

He pleaded guilty to animal abuse before and as part of his agreement he was supposed to stop acting like a piece of shit.....

....thats the logic.

Orochi Ken
08-27-2007, 08:02 AM
Adding another dimension to this thread:

Who would in in a fight Krypto (Superman's dog) or Underdog?

My money's on Krypto....

I mean uh.....

::runs::

Jida
08-27-2007, 09:03 AM
That's like asking me if I make black people shoot each other over made up territory.

Ya'll just do that yourselves. I just have to make it so you guys are too poor to live where I live and then it all takes care of itself.

It's obvious you've never been white before.

I am rolling on my floor making gasping noises due to my joy and exitement.

RockBogart
08-27-2007, 10:18 AM
So yeah, PETA was quiet today cause they were out numbered by a bunch of niggas from the hood. And I have a correction about my previous post. Its not a former step father diming him out. Its the biological father who left him 20 years back, talking shit about him. Motherfucker even went as far as saying that he told him to give up dog fighting years ago. I have father issues just like many srkers do, WHAT THE FUCK GIVES HIM THE RIGHT TO SAY SHIT? Your ass was absent most of his life, now your crab in the bucket ass wants to say something.

ShinAkumax
08-27-2007, 10:29 AM
Is being white better than being black?

Black Chanler
08-27-2007, 10:31 AM
Although I am impartial to the whole dogfighting thing (on one side its against the law, on the other side shit like this happens all the time around the world). I am just appreciating the randomness it was to catch DMX in his dirt lol.

RockBogart
08-27-2007, 10:32 AM
Is being white better than being black?

....didnt you have all reds like a week ago?

ShinAkumax
08-27-2007, 10:36 AM
Is that a real question or a witty retort to my post? If I could make a thread about how SRK felt about what I asked, I would. Such an inflamatory topic would get close fast, so I decided to bring it up in a place where the race card was already on the table. If that offended you, too bad.

RockBogart
08-27-2007, 10:41 AM
Is that a real question or a witty retort to my post? If I could make a thread about how SRK felt about what I asked, I would. Such an inflamatory topic would get close fast, so I decided to bring it up in a place where the race card was already on the table. If that offended you, too bad.

Naw, I was just asking.

ShinAkumax
08-27-2007, 10:43 AM
The prems get off on making switch rep on a weekly basis. I'm the most controversial player in the game, or something.

It's usually like 10 negs for every 2 pos, but the post comes from heavy hitters. It's weird. For a guy ( Me ) who claims to care little about his rep, I got a REALLY interesting rep life. Some of the comment, I swear. Why do people waste time hating me? I just don't understand.

Black Chanler
08-27-2007, 10:44 AM
Is being white better than being black?

Poor nigga who fucks enormous ghetto booty on the regular and dont go to work but still be getting playstation 3's

or

Trailer trash mullet white man who be fucking women that look kinda like eminem and playing The terminator 2 game on sega genesis.

Satomiblood
08-27-2007, 10:45 AM
The prems get off on making switch rep on a weekly basis. I'm the most controversial player in the game, or something.

Right-o

....didnt you have all reds like a week ago?

That would be me actually. Right up until this morning (lol).

ShinAkumax
08-27-2007, 10:46 AM
I used to be the most hate till TAL single handedly took it all from me.

Arsenal
08-27-2007, 10:48 AM
From a legal standpoint, regarding personal property (which pets are considered) and premises, the owner of premises renders a higher duty of care to the condition of any and all personal property on said premises.

Basically, although it'll help that DMX hired somebody to maintain his property, there's still going to be see SOME negligence on his part for the conditions of the animals. I don't know how AZ works, but some states have comparative negligence, where the responsibility for negligence resulting in _____ is shared by a percentage.

Just letting you guys know that if his lawyer's main defense is that since DMX hired a caretaker, then DMX has no culpability, then DMX needs a new attorney. Fast.

EDIT: on second thought, depending on AZ law, the caretaker might be considered an independant contractor. In that case, there's a very good chance of DMX wiping his hands clean from this mess. But I don't know. The language of the law is going to have to be examined thouroughly; negligence occurred on DMX's property, with DMX not checking himself to see if his independant contractor was fulfilling his end of the business agreement?

It'll be tough to prove that DMX was completely clueless. And even i you do, it'll hurt him in the sense that him not taking measures to be informed contributed to the conditions... Damn. I'd love to work on this case.

ShinAkumax
08-27-2007, 10:49 AM
Trailer trash mullet white man who be fucking women that look kinda like eminem and playing The terminator 2 game on sega genesis.

But man, they get to fuck their SISTER! Sometime even their Aunt! Doesn't that count for something?

They got the Blue Collard comedy tour... Ha ha ha, I wonder what would happen if they decide to tour and the Dirty Wetbacks Comedy Tour or the Fuck your couch nigga entretaiment entourage.

RockBogart
08-27-2007, 10:52 AM
But sadly from various social experiments, being white would be considered advantages over other races. This experiment was conducted 50 years after the Brown v. Board of education experiment, and the results are relatively the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqQ0W9LZ_N0

ShinAkumax
08-27-2007, 10:57 AM
But sadly from various social experiments, being white would be considered advantages over other races. This experiment was conducted 50 years after the Brown v. Board of education experiment, and the results are relatively the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqQ0W9LZ_N0

The advantages of light skin are undeniable and from what I understand a social artifact from our past. However, do YOU think it's better to be white than black, cause if you do, that can tell you a LOT about how you see the world and a man's vision of the world is everything, wether they like it or not.

Weeks
08-27-2007, 10:57 AM
I'm not even sure how O. J. Simpson even fits into this thread. :confused:

You weren't paying attention to the conversation were you
I didn't just pull Orenthal out of my ass

Weeks
08-27-2007, 11:02 AM
Poor nigga who fucks enormous ghetto booty on the regular and dont go to work but still be getting playstation 3's

or

Trailer trash mullet white man who be fucking women that look kinda like eminem and playing The terminator 2 game on sega genesis.

aint never been in a trailer park, have you? 20,000 dollar hummers and big screen TVs, welfare and drugs..it's just like a white ghetto

Arsenal
08-27-2007, 11:03 AM
aint never been in a trailer park, have you? 20,000 dollar hummers and big screen TVs, welfare and drugs..it's just like a white ghetto

The truth. Trailer parks = quasi-mobile ghettos.

Debaser
08-27-2007, 11:07 AM
aint never been in a trailer park, have you? 20,000 dollar hummers and big screen TVs, welfare and drugs..it's just like a white ghetto

They have Hummers for 20,000 dollars!?

Black Chanler
08-27-2007, 11:08 AM
aint never been in a trailer park, have you? 20,000 dollar hummers and big screen TVs, welfare and drugs..it's just like a white ghetto

As a North Carolinian the trailer parks ive seen are wild as hell. Not no where as dangerous as the ghettos of Durham, but it always feel like I traveled a good decade back in time whenever I pass a trailer park around here.

RockBogart
08-27-2007, 11:11 AM
The advantages of light skin are undeniable and from what I understand a social artifact from our past. However, do YOU think it's better to be white than black, cause if you do, that can tell you a LOT about how you see the world and a man's vision of the world is everything, wether they like it or not.

I personally love being black. But being in law enforcement and seeing the shit ive seen, I'm not going to sit here and deny the advantages of being white or light skinned. Just means I have to work harder because there is always someone looking over my shoulder waiting for me to fuck up.

NegroNinja
08-27-2007, 11:13 AM
All I know is when I see a redneck driving in a big red pick truck, with the giant tractor tread wheels and that giant confederate flag waving in the back, he didn't get that on the cheap...and I'm in SF! So I know he's paying through the nose for gas!

ShinAkumax
08-27-2007, 11:22 AM
I personally love being black. But being in law enforcement and seeing the shit ive seen, I'm not going to sit here and deny the advantages of being white or light skinned. Just means I have to work harder because there is always someone looking over my shoulder waiting for me to fuck up.


Word.

thurst
08-27-2007, 11:39 AM
How is this even tangentially related to the subject at hand? Look, none of us are investigators, and none of us are on the jury. We're simply speculating based upon news reports. But you arrogantly trying to shut that down is stupid, considering this is a message board of all things.

Furthermore, arguing that nothing improper happened means you haven't read the article, or have simply ignored it.

the comments you were referring were about OJ being found innocent, not DMX. and no one is trying to shut down anything.

At the very least, DMX is guilty of criminal neglect. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then it probably isn't an eagle, now is it?

if you actually read my posts, you'd know that i agree with you.


No, it means that the person hired by DMX was doing more than just providing food and shelter for these animals. What exactly that is....one can only speculate.

well since they weren't provided shelter and only a little food it would seem they were barely doing that, which exactly what the lawyer, several people in the thread and i have said probably happened.

But DMX is clearly in the wrong here, and taking into account the likelihood of Ron Mexico ratting him out....there's a good chance there's a lot more to this than even criminal neglect.

vick didn't plea yet, so he probably had nothing to do with him getting "ratted out", his concerned neighbors did. there's probably something to the cache of weapons...the dogs, probably not.

You said you wouldn't have his back if his name was Vladimir not BECAUSE no one would hear it, but aside from it.
?

it's weird that you're always responding to my posts, but seem to never actually read what i write.

and you're right, if his name was vladimir i wouldn't have his back, also if his name was vladimir the AP wouldn't have picked up the story and the sheriff wouldn't be rambling off wild speculation to reporters, so there'd be no reason for me to have an opinion one way or the other.

maybe ironic tone threw you off or something.

Weeks
08-27-2007, 11:40 AM
As a North Carolinian the trailer parks ive seen are wild as hell. Not no where as dangerous as the ghettos of Durham, but it always feel like I traveled a good decade back in time whenever I pass a trailer park around here.

they are crazy. but let's face it. a black guy will be safer walking through a trailer park than a white guy walking through a ghetto.

ShinAkumax
08-27-2007, 11:42 AM
I would disagree. Black people aren't safe walking through a black ghetto. Bullets are hella blind. Unless your stament had more to do with camo*

Weeks
08-27-2007, 11:43 AM
I would disagree.
well yeah. a black guy isn't safe period...

i mean let's face it, they're like the majority of homicide victims in this country

ShinAkumax
08-27-2007, 11:46 AM
People aren't safe period. No one said life was fair.

thurst
08-27-2007, 11:54 AM
well yeah. a black guy isn't safe period...

i mean let's face it, they're like the majority of homicide victims in this country

lmao

but seriously, unless you're talking about stereotypical "i'm stranded and all i have is this bag of money, what am i gonna do!" white people, i'd say that a black person is probably in more danger in some hick trailer park than a normal white person would be in the hood.

CrouchingTiger
08-27-2007, 12:22 PM
All I know is when I see a redneck driving in a big red pick truck, with the giant tractor tread wheels and that giant confederate flag waving in the back, he didn't get that on the cheap...and I'm in SF! So I know he's paying through the nose for gas!

This is true. Those idiots put a lot of money into those abominations of vehicles.

Weeks
08-27-2007, 01:22 PM
lmao

but seriously, unless you're talking about stereotypical "i'm stranded and all i have is this bag of money, what am i gonna do!" white people, i'd say that a black person is probably in more danger in some hick trailer park than a normal white person would be in the hood.

i disagree completely

shit i went to the wrong fucking MALL in kansas city of all places and black peeps were sayin shit like 'damn i didn't know it was white boy night' which made me lol. but there were a few people who were obviously hostile

a black guy walking through the trailer park isn't gonna get crap tossed at him. peeps may talk shit behind his back, but no one is going to start attacking him for random reason. there's no 'gang territory' in trailer parks

Autocrat1
08-27-2007, 01:23 PM
But man, they get to fuck their SISTER! Sometime even their Aunt! Doesn't that count for something?
Aunt Cunt 4TW

I was exaggerating a bit. The ban hammer only came when one bitch-mod went to other bitch-mods and bitched to Castel.

NYUKAH!

...I didn't know your fat ass absorbed SRK too...:mad:

RockBogart
08-27-2007, 01:28 PM
a black guy walking through the trailer park isn't gonna get crap tossed at him.

No, he will get much worse. Someones going to call the cops and say there is a suspicious looking Negro walking around the neighborhood. Far worse than having crap thrown at him. Whens the last time you heard about black people calling the cops on some white dude walking through the hood? Now how many times when black go through lily white gaited communities and subdivisions, do they get stairs and possibly get the cops called on them? More often than the previous statement. And you know when rolling through white areas, black people get asked "Are you lost?" or "Do you need directions?" every 5 blocks. And thats from personal experience.

Airthrow
08-27-2007, 01:33 PM
You get targetted for robbery and violence much more in the hood than a trailerpark. no fucking contest.

<<---Robbed 3x in 2 years, south side of Chicago.

Weeks
08-27-2007, 01:40 PM
oh shit the cops?? damn that's way worse than some gang beating the crap out of me because i'm white in a black neighborhood

ps: people in trailer park aren't going to call the cops, else they'd lose their meth labs

and there are actually a decent amount of black people who live there too..considering the deep south is pretty black

i grew up in a trailer park. never saw a black guy get jumped or ever hear of anything. i heard plenty of racist shit but it was always on the down low and never said directly to someone's face.

nor was i ever robbed, which is actually surprising

white shadow
08-27-2007, 02:29 PM
Adding another dimension to this thread:

Who would in in a fight Krypto (Superman's dog) or Underdog?

My money's on Krypto....

I mean uh.....

::runs::

Hong Kong Phooey would own them both.... at the same time!

SlayerofBodom
08-28-2007, 01:45 PM
Okay, I just HAD to post this picture;

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/aferrido/070827_vick_hmed_8p.h2.jpg

VICK FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

fishjie
08-28-2007, 02:22 PM
this whole "not guilty because they're black" reminds me of a news story that was posted here a while ago. some black kid in oakland robbed a guy at gunpoint. the victim immediately pulled his own gun out and shot the black kid, who then died from his wounds.

what was the reaction? all the black people in oakland were PISSED and OUTRAGED. they were angry the victim had dared to defend his own life and shoot a guy who had pulled a gun on him.

.........................