IDW Transformers (Likely spoilers ahead, reader beware...)

[Daidoji Kage]

Anyone out there reading this exceptional set of comics?

IDW has done a damn good job over the past 2 years or so in bringing the TF universe together.

Spotlight Optimus Prime was released today. For those that don't know, Spotlight books are one shot character stories which have large implications over the overall story arc.

The Spotlight Prime book out today revealed some of the origins of combiner technology. I'll hold out on too much commentary until others have a chance to join in, but if you haven't started reading these, the whole Spotlight series is a good place to start. :wgrin:

[Sano]

I got the Beast Wars manga book and enjoyed it a lot

Always been a bigger fan of the Decepticons so loving Megatron Origin.

[Daidoji Kage]

Spoilers...

The Prime book today showed him defeating Monstructor and hinting at the use of combiner technology.

The fun part was seeing the Technobots leading the prisoners away.

You get the feeling that they are going to dissect them and get at the tech first.

[Sano]

^Edited with spoiler tag just in case, just click edit on your post to see how I did it for future reference thanks! :sweat:

[Daidoji Kage]

^Edited with spoiler tag just in case, just click edit on your post to see how I did it for future reference thanks! :sweat:

Cool :sweat:

Knowing is half the battle. (the other half being access to guns and women...) :wgrin:

[Sano]

So in the new Transformers comic it's like they are in secret, like no one knows they are on planet Earth, kind of like how the Transformers movie is right? Are all of the G1 Transformers present or just a handful?

[Daidoji Kage]

So in the new Transformers comic it's like they are in secret, like no one knows they are on planet Earth, kind of like how the Transformers movie is right? Are all of the G1 Transformers present or just a handful?

That's kind of hard to answer.

The scope of the IDW universe is BIG. Things are happening on Earth, Cybertron, and outer reaches all at the same time. Then the Spotlight books show out of sequence stories that have wide character selection.

But yes, the stuff on Earth has a major plot point of keeping the Transformers secret. Decepticons even go to lengths at the beginning to kill humans that know of them.

[Sano]

Hey thanks man!

Just read the last ish of Megatron Origins man that series is fire! Megatron met the three jets Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp. Did you know Starscream was like a big Megatron fanboy in the beginning cool! Oh and now Megatron is rocking the Decepticon symbol like on a chain oh yeah! Man they should of done this comic years ago, GO MEGATRON! :rock:

[Bass X0]

The new series will be starting soon. Thats Devastation, Beast Wars Ascending and the Beast Wars character profile book.

[Daidoji Kage]

The new series will be starting soon. Thats Devastation, Beast Wars Ascending and the Beast Wars character profile book.

Supposedly out today.

I'll know in an hour or so.

[Tizoc]

BUMP!
Spotlight: Arcee came out recently and WTF-
is berserk?

I'm still a bit in the dark about what happened in the past with Jhiaxus and all that shit, so could someone clear this up for me? Thanks.

[MUSOLINI]

last TF comics i enjoyed where war within and G1 from dw. i checked out the idw shit but wasnt too impressed with it. thinking about checking out TF vs JI, though im not too sure about it since i pretty much cant stand jijoe.

[Tizoc]

Next Spotlight coming out next month is gonna be for Grimlock followed by Mirage; BE THERE!

[Daidoji Kage]

BUMP!
Spotlight: Arcee came out recently and WTF-
is berserk?

I'm still a bit in the dark about what happened in the past with Jhiaxus and all that shit, so could someone clear this up for me? Thanks.

First off, sorry for not picking up your question earlier, been really busy...

Jhiaxus has done some serious and unethical experiments on Transformers in this continuity. He appears to be responsible for the combiner technology and for several other unwilling experiments.

Arcee is pissed off because the J-man did his experiments on her, effectively giving her a gender, but at the same time, seperating her from all other Transformers. He made her different, a 'her' and then discarded her without any explaination.

[Tizoc]

Ah OK now I get it thanks a lot. Understanding this I'm getting a bit more interested in the series. Still I need to re-read the comics in order to remember what the Autobots and Decepticons are fighting on again (been reading too many comics I forgot ROFL!)

[Shin-Mech-Brian]

How does IDW's story hold up against DW's? Even though DW didn't get far, I was liking the story they were developing.

[Daidoji Kage]

How does IDW's story hold up against DW's? Even though DW didn't get far, I was liking the story they were developing.

I've said it like this before, DW had better single stories, issues that by themselves were a good read.

IDW does a better job telling a whole story. They present an arc to things that constantly answers questions, but brings up more at the same time. So, really, better story telling.

Also, IDW takes some interesting hard-line stands on things. DW gave occasional glimpses of controversy or interest (armorless Magnus for example). But IDW shows Prime as a true Leader. For example, Prime is supposed to be distant, iconic, and almost unapproachable.

IDW actually shows this. Prime makes harsh command decisions, stomps out humans who intentionally hurt his comrads, and never really seems to be the 100% grade A, flag bearing, always knows what's best guy that all other fiction makes him out to be.

Sometimes, even the reader has to second guess his decisions then accept that he's doing what a real Leader would, not just what the Leader everyone wants to have would do.

[MUSOLINI]

too bad the art isnt anywhere near as good as DW. also, are there some chapters with dinobots highlights i them. besides the one with shockwave and earth of millions of years ago.

[Tizoc]

Art is fine with me, I never had any trouble with it.
One thing I liked about the IDW comics is how the Autobots are shown as the reason for the existence of the Decepticon faction.

[Sano]

Art is fine with me, I never had any trouble with it.
One thing I liked about the IDW comics is how the Autobots are shown as the reason for the existence of the Decepticon faction.

I loved Megatron Origins. Pretty cool that you can apply the story to just about any Transformers G1 Continuity - 80s cartoon, Marvel comics, IDW, Dreamwave - and it still works. :smile:

[Daidoji Kage]

too bad the art isnt anywhere near as good as DW. also, are there some chapters with dinobots highlights i them. besides the one with shockwave and earth of millions of years ago.

You mean good like Dreamwave's Micromaster series?

Or good like how every single picture of a transformer from DW has a crouching position or his crotch trust forward? :rolleyes:

Just giving you a hard time...but all the same, most of the good artist from DW are now working with IDW and this time they are not bound by Pat Lee's requirements for the pictures.

[Tizoc]

I loved Megatron Origins. Pretty cool that you can apply the story to just about any Transformers G1 Continuity - 80s cartoon, Marvel comics, IDW, Dreamwave - and it still works. :smile:

That so? Well it is true to an extent, though I'm still trying to fully understand the IDW Beast Wars comics @_@.
Megs Origins was good indeed and it gives Megs a good reason for doing what he does as well as how became the Decepticon we all love and know.
One thing that did make me go WTF is the ummm....female Cybertronians...I mean I can understand Arcee being the first but not rising to Jhiaxus' expectations but...

[chopperbyrne]

These are the best TF stories in any media since the end of the UK comic run.

[Tizoc]

Read Devastation yesterday, great arc; Prime ordering the Autobots to leave Earth, Scorponik being the mastermind behind the Headmaster tech. & Galvatron's intervention to assist the Decepticons.
I was actually surprised it was Scorponik; I actually thought it was Shockwave. I wonder what Soundwave's planning now? Hope he'll have a big role in the next arc.

[Tizoc]

Mirage Spotlight is out ppl.
Grimlock's should be out within a week or 2.

[Tizoc]

ALL HAIL MEGATRON! (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=5305902&posted=1#post5305902)

[Sano]

ALL HAIL MEGATRON! (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=5305902&posted=1#post5305902)

Hell yeah! Loved Megatron Origins so I'm sure gonna love this! DIE AUTOBOTS DIE! :devil:

[Tizoc]

How good is the TF Evolution: Hearts of Steel miniseries? I mean in terms of writing and stuff (I could care less about it's place in the continuity :P)

[Tizoc]

Man IDW can't cease to surprise me; Wheelie's getting a Spotlight issue O_o. Talk about being the most hated Transformer XD.

[Daidoji Kage]

How good is the TF Evolution: Hearts of Steel miniseries? I mean in terms of writing and stuff (I could care less about it's place in the continuity :P)

Bad.

and

Bad.

[Tizoc]

^lol, so did you guys read the Focus on Decepticons that had a PREVIEW OF ALL HAIL MEGATRON?
Shit was too dope. While Megs' main force that was revealed in the book seemed kinda small it's good in that that way we can learn of their personalities.

BTW got something I find rather annoying among some TF fans who aren't impressed about the IDW comics; Fuck the continuity, and just READ THE DAMN THING. Who the fuck cares if this is a retelling of the TFs arrival on Earth but set in 2005? The direction and storytelling of the IDW comic is very good ad fits the mood of the whole 'Autobots want to stop Decepticons from galactic conquest'
Furthermore, this is about the best the Decepticons are depicted in that I've seen in the TF media since Beast Wars.

[Tizoc]

Spotlight Grimlock was good :tup:
Next time...Spotlight: Wheelie:wonder:

[Satomiblood]

I have to get into the DW and IDW series...

*subscribes*

What are your recommendations? I've only read Stormbringer and War Within.

[chopperbyrne]

The main IDW Stories are great. Best TF I've read since the old UK comics way back when.

There are trades out for Infiltration and Escalation. The first five or six Spotlights (which tie in to the main story) are collected in a trade too.

Get them all.

[Tizoc]

^What he said, check this for a list of reading orders and what titles IDW have done-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Transformers_comic_book_series#IDW_Publish ing
Note that Spotlights are part of the main IDW timeline/storyline.

[Satomiblood]

Was HOS any good?

[chopperbyrne]

Was HOS any good?

HOS????

[Satomiblood]

Hearts of Steel...

[chopperbyrne]

I don't know.

[Satomiblood]

All Hail Megatron #1 cover

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=6756

[Tizoc]

That cover reminds me of the cover to Batman: The Killing Joke. Hope there's a variant, I have nothing against this one, but a variant would be nice :P

[Satomiblood]

5-page preview of Reign of Starscream #2 (http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=3984)

[Shade]

Not IDW's work, but anyone else besides me adore the BotCon Timelines issue, Shattered Glass? The whole concept is so win, but simple at the same time. Wonder why I never thought of it myself.

I especially dig Sideswipe, and backstory. Would love to see this whole thing fleshed out in a mini, series, or hell, animated special (now that's the least likely to happen, though).

That cover reminds me of the cover to Batman: The Killing Joke.

Actually, I'm sure that was very intentional.

[Tizoc]

^I know ;)
Gonna go read Starscream #1.

[Daidoji Kage]

Was HOS any good?

In short?

No.

[Satomiblood]

It's not Transformers, but a few artists from Dreamwave have started their own TF clone series.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/comics-16/jaran-studios-dread-force-165014/

[Sano]

Also slightly OT, possibly moreso - IDW has also aquired the rights to G.I. Joe. As some of you may know, Devil's Due has followed the same continuity from way back when Marvel had the license. So they are asking if people want the same continuity to continue or if they should reboot the franchise, like they did with Transformers.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=158522

Either way there are a few pluses. They will pick up the TPBs again. Marvel only put out five, getting up to about issue 50 and Serpentor's origin. And Larry Hama will be involved with IDW's G.I. Joe so there's that.

I said no reboot on the above thread. Transformers I didn't mind since Dreamwave tried to marry the comic with the cartoon in a very confusing way (Spike and Buster being twins what the...) so a reboot was fine with me. But G.I. Joe's continuity spans like 26 years, I'd hate to see that come to an end...

At the very least, if IDW puts out books like Megatron Origin that can fit in pretty much any continuity I won't have too many problems with that. Cobra Commander Origin, Destro Origin, Baroness Origin, Zartan Origin, Tomax and Xamot Origin etc. What be these good guys you speak of? COOOOBRAAAAA!

[Satomiblood]

Speaking of Megatron Origin, I've been reading it lately. What are everyone's thoughts on it? I don't mind spoilers...although it's been out for a while.

[Sano]

It's great! OG Megatron forced to fight in tournies up and decides to stick it to the man AKA those stinkin' Autobots, hey these were not Optimus Prime Autobots, these were some fat cats pushing around the lower class robots. Soundwave becomes loyal to Megatron's cause and OG Starscream was a Megatron fanboy! :rofl: Book is TEH AWESOME! :tup:

[Satomiblood]

Yea, the Autobots are dickheads from what I've read thus far.

Sent Prime looks badass though.

[Tizoc]

TF Spotlight Wheelie and Cyclonus are out.
Well I don't know if he is a kid or just a short Autobot, but it was an OK issue, I guess u learn where he got the whole rhyming thing in this one :P Also it seems that the planet he is on has some connection to Unicron.

Umm kinda skimmed thru it really, but I'm guessing Cyclonus is REALLY old, since he seems dissapointed as to what has happened to Cybertron over the millenias. He attacks some autbots and then goes to some cavern, activates something, fights the Autobots again and then leaves to space.

The issue ends with the appearance of some Cybertronians/TFs that I do not seem to know.

[Tizoc]

was kickass, the ending really surprised me. Guess the Autobots had some trouble with their mission.

[Sano]

Dude I had TF AHM #1 reserved and they gave me TF Saga of the All Spark #1 instead. Ah should of checked it before purchasing. :rofl: Well I'll just go pick up AHM now... :looney:

EDIT: AHM ruled! All Spark, not so much. Mostly because it looked to be in TF movie continuity. I thought the movie was okay but probably not the biggest fan of it, ah well... :sweat:

[Shin-Mech-Brian]

I picked up AHM #1 this past weekend, it's the first comic I've actually purchased in over 5 years

The art was really nice and I liked that they used Masterpiece Seeker designs for Screamer and the rest. Overall, pretty cool start but it was awfully short though I did like the final page. I just hope there's more story development in the next few issues. Paying $4.00 for that single issue was just the reason why I stopped buying comics.

[Tizoc]

I blame inflation mate....

[Tizoc]

Another kickass issue! Thundercracker sends out some drones to take care of the Autobot team; Arcee, Smokescreen, Air Raid and 2 others whose designation I forgot. The autobots make scrap metal of the drones, but prove no match to Thundercracker and Starscream who decimate all but Arcee.
I believe Hardtop was destroyed since I don't see him on Cybertron.
Anyway Starscream returns to Cybertron and sends Frenzy's data to BE analyzed. We also get to see Dreadwing and Ramjet.
Starscream makes some 'renovations' to Megs' former quarters and checks in on a 'construction'; could it be a Space Bridge?
On a final note, it seems the US military doesn't want the Autobots or any other aliens on the planet and as such begin constructing their very own Transformers

[MUSOLINI]

hot damn, i wasn't really feeling idw cause of the colors and art. but megatron origins is one of the best tf reads so far. wish there where more of these quality tf comics out there. gonna dl cyclonus and what else i can find that i don't already have. coming back tf baby. bay can learn a thing or 10.000.000 from this, faggot ass motherfucker.

[m121akuma]

I just read Megatron Origin myself today. Great story overall, although the narrative feels a little disjointed at times. Soundwave reestablishes himself as a badass muthafucka though, so that's always good.

[MUSOLINI]

megatron origins was so far the best piece of tf comic i read from IDW. rivalling war within IMO. i liked stormbreaker as well but didnt really feel most of the spotlights or other series. some of them are also really not my style art, like grimlock origins and a lot of other origins.

are all the DW artists also on IDW? some of them where fucking awesome, like the MTMTE books artist, WW artist and the one who did the art for tf/jijoe.

[Tizoc]

READ
REIGN
OF
STARSCREAM
Fucking awesome-
The Decepticons are complete building Starscream's Cube using Autobots as slaves to build it.
Arcee arrives at an old Autbot training facility where she meets up with other Autobots who are gonna storm the Decepticons.
Prior to this Starscream learns that despite Frenzy's being in Stasis Lock, the humans were able to extract info from him to build their own Transformers, oddly enough Frenzy was also able to store their progress.
The issue ends with the Autobots arriving at Starscream's reveal of his constructed Cube only to see the slaved Autbots chained to it!
Oh and we get to see Elita-1 in this issue among other characters

[Satomiblood]

I've been wanting to pick up ROS since it came out. I may pick up some issues next time I hit up the comic store.

I've read AHM No. 1 and 2 recently. Good stuff. Artwork is solid.

[Tizoc]

Reign of Starscream #5 is out bitches, GET HYPE!:rock:

[Tizoc]

All Hail Megatron 3 was very good, Megatron's discussion with Starscream was excellent as well, this series really shows Megatron as a great leader, as opposed to being a bossing jerk in the G1 cartoon.

[Shin-Mech-Brian]

All Hail Megatron 3 was very good, Megatron's discussion with Starscream was excellent as well, this series really shows Megatron as a great leader, as opposed to being a bossing jerk in the G1 cartoon.
I just picked up #3 and I agree, it's doing a good job of portraying Megatron as the dominant, ruthless leader that he is. The art is great for the TF's but the human part of the story I'm not liking too much.

But this series is moving way to slow for my taste. Don't get me wrong, I don't them to jut jump right into things too quickly but can we not have 10 pages of IDW publication advertisements? Especially @ $4.00 an issue.

[Satomiblood]

But this series is moving way to slow for my taste. Don't get me wrong, I don't them to jut jump right into things too quickly but can we not have 10 pages of IDW publication advertisements? Especially @ $4.00 an issue.

Co-sign.

[chopperbyrne]

Try getting charged over €4 and then you can complain about the cost!

[fluxcore]

For the people wondering about Hearts of Steel, I thought the transformer designs were awesome, but the story was pretty much a huge letdown - so not really very good, no.

[Sano]

Ah keep forgetting to come in here and say how good All Hail Megatron is. Frenzy action hell yeah! :rock:

[Shin-Mech-Brian]

Ah keep forgetting to come in here and say how good All Hail Megatron is. Frenzy action hell yeah! :rock:
Yeah, watching Soundwaver unleash this new Frenzy was pretty cool. I don't remember him having that ability or the problem associated with it but it was quite original in my eyes. But again, it was like one page of treatment and back to the normal stuff.

I at least want to see what the Autobots are up too in the mean time besides wondering what to do while Prime's body is laying on the slab.

One thing I do find kinda' strange is the fact that no one seems to be aware of the Autobot or Decepticon battle on Earth before AHM, like when Scrapper was talking to Meg's about building on that location and mentioned the materials - it's like he's never encountered it before. Is this like an alternate What If story?

[Daidoji Kage]

Last Wednesday, IDW released the MtMtE Volume 1 Trade.

If you don't know, MtMtE (More than meets the eye) is a collection of G1 character profiles done by Dreamwave around 2003. It was an 8 issue series covering every G1 character, well, TF show or toy character. Individual issues of that series often cost $25, especially for issues 1, 2, & 3. DW released their own Trade of the series, but it was pretty rare.

Get this thing while you can find a copy, it's well worth the $25.

[Tizoc]

@SMB- The IDW series are more of a 'modern' presentation of the TF series.

[Satomiblood]

Anyone read AHM4 yet?

[Sano]

I got the issue but haven't read it yet. Probably later today....

[Tizoc]

Just read it
Well now we're getting somewhere :P
Megs and co. finally cripple the US Army and are starting to take control of the US.

Meanwhile back on Cybertron Ironhide is pissed off at their current situation after Prime went into Stasis Lock not knowing whether he will survive or not.
Elsewhere, Bumblebee and Wheeljack are walking around on Cybertron when Wheeljack spots a figure within their area. They call for backup, Ironhide and Cliffjumper respond.
They find out the figure Wheeljack detected was in fact Hot Rod, who was very glad to see his fellow Autbots have 'responded to his signal' and that they've come to 'rescue him and the others'!

Something Evil lurks these steel corners of Cybertron!

There are however some stuff that bugged me-
1) How and when the hell did they rescue Sunstreaker?
2) When did Mirage join them?

Oh and TF Spotlight: Sideswipe was out recently, pretty good book.

[Satomiblood]

Just read it

Who is the silhouette supposed to be? Is it the new character, Drift?

[Sano]

Liked the Kup name dropping and Hot Rod's appearance! PS the only Autobots I like are the Dinobots and all of the new Autobots introduced in the first movie and beyond. Always liked the Decepticons more. Same thing with G.I.Joe, it's all about Cobra. :badboy:

[Tizoc]

One thing I really like about IDW's spotlight series, is that when they focus on a character that is known to those who watched the cartoons, their version is to have that character appeal to a mature audience, take the recent Spotlight issue for example-
In IDW's series, Blurr is a Cybertronian who lives to thrill people, lives for the RACE!
Issue begins shortly before the Decepticons began the war on Cybertron. Blurr's living the life a Cybertronian can wish for, what with him being the no. 1 racer on the planet.
However all that changes when the war begins; Blurr has lost his reason for going on.
At a bar, Starscream meets him and tries to convince him to join the Decepticons, their discussion ends with Starscream leaving a Decepticon insignia for Blurr should he choose to join them.
Days later Blurr is caught in a battle between Autbots and Decepticons, during the fight he meets up with young Prime!
Prime gives him a pep talk in what he should do with his life, and Blurr decides to join the Autobots.

Good issue, but there is something that is bothering me a bit; the red Autobot insignia has been around long before the War and Megatron Origins, did the Autobot faction however only appear during the War? From Megatron Origins they seem to have been around since before then

[MUSOLINI]

One thing I really like about IDW's spotlight series, is that when they focus on a character that is known to those who watched the cartoons, their version is to have that character appeal to a mature audience, take the recent Spotlight issue for example-
In IDW's series, Blurr is a Cybertronian who lives to thrill people, lives for the RACE!
Issue begins shortly before the Decepticons began the war on Cybertron. Blurr's living the life a Cybertronian can wish for, what with him being the no. 1 racer on the planet.
However all that changes when the war begins; Blurr has lost his reason for going on.
At a bar, Starscream meets him and tries to convince him to join the Decepticons, their discussion ends with Starscream leaving a Decepticon insignia for Blurr should he choose to join them.
Days later Blurr is caught in a battle between Autbots and Decepticons, during the fight he meets up with young Prime!
Prime gives him a pep talk in what he should do with his life, and Blurr decides to join the Autobots.

Good issue, but there is something that is bothering me a bit; the red Autobot insignia has been around long before the War and Megatron Origins, did the Autobot faction however only appear during the War? From Megatron Origins they seem to have been around since before then

thats easy, the fact is that they just made that up some time ago. so before that no, now if you like yes. but give them time to make some shit up for the rest of your questions (or fill in the blancs for yourself).

[Tizoc]

ALL HAIL MEGATRON #5
Looks like Kup DID recover from what happened to him his Spotlight issue. That or the spotlight took place a lot longer time ago.
Anyway, Hot Rod explains to the Jazz's team that he was with another team of Autobots lead by Kup (who seems to be pulling off a Nick Fury with the cigar ), when they were ambushed by some Decepticon battle ships on Cybertron.
Kup and some of his team arrive at Hot Rod's location and Kup starts talking scrap towards Jazz. Springer gets all cocky and attacks Jazz who retaliates by taking him and 2 other Autobots of Kup's team.
Jazz explains to Kup their situation and Prime's condition. A page is then shown of Megs having The Matrix; the key to saving Prime.
Back on Earth, Spike agrees to take on a mission to eradicate the Decepticons and is the lone survivor of his team sent on the mission.

Good issue overall with some nice art

[Tizoc]

Anyone else read Maximum Dinobots?

Issue begins with Grimlock getting a flashback of a mission he and his team were on. We then see him finding the space ship that they took to track down Shockwave on Earth. Grimlock comments on how he can't choose another transformable form and is stuck with his T-Rex from.
Cut to Nevada where his other comrades are being tested on, dubbed Thunder Lizards 2-5. The scientist, Kloss, informs Agent Red that he's managed to fix any qwerks that would casue the TLs to regain thier conciousness and cause havok like Grimlock did last time.
Kloss then makes a phonecall to Dante, who is in fact the one who has control on the conciousness of the Dinobots and can trigger them on whenever he can.
It is soon revealed that Dante is infact Scorponik taking a human form, and is still working on creating his Machination on Earth.
In Massachusetts, Hunter and Sunstreaker, destroy one a car bunker that is apparently part of Machinations holds.

They find data regarding the Dynobots which they both decide to look into.
Scorponok sends some of his Headmaster soldiers to attack Grimlock, but get wasted instead. One of the soldiers sends Grimlock to Nevada, where he is detected by Agent Red's men. They send the Thunder Lizards to take him down.
Meanwhile, Hot Rod shows up near Scorponok's hiding place and Scorponok decides to deal with him.

Pretty much covers the events that took place before All Hail Megatron. Grimlock not talking in 'Hulk-speak' is pretty cool and makes him more badass.

[Satomiblood]

All Hail Megatron continues to get better. I haven't read up on any Spotlight issues or Maximum Dinobots, though.

Love the Roadbuster sighting.

[MUSOLINI]

havent read maximum dinobots, but i fucking hated the new designs they gave grimlock and the rest. makes me wish the artist who designed them lost his hands, or better yet his arms for doing that. the scorponoc part was even shittierr IMO, didnt like the part about him working with humans at all.

[Tizoc]

Who said he was working with the humans? He was USING the humans to create his Machination.
Also the Dinobots' designs are OK, they just look less squary and more round-ish.
Hell now that I think about it, Grimlock was just given more curves than his old look, while the rest look fine.

[MUSOLINI]

Who said he was working with the humans? He was USING the humans to create his Machination.
Also the Dinobots' designs are OK, they just look less squary and more round-ish.
Hell now that I think about it, Grimlock was just given more curves than his old look, while the rest look fine.

meaning they look like beastwars instead of real transformers IMO. it looks ugly as hell. if they cant top the old designs, dont show up with new and ugly shit. i cant stand those new designs. wtf was wrong with the old ones? they let shockwave stay the same, even scorponoc but fucking killed the dinobots. motherfuckers.

[Tizoc]

meaning they look like beastwars instead of real transformers IMO. it looks ugly as hell. if they cant top the old designs, dont show up with new and ugly shit. i cant stand those new designs. wtf was wrong with the old ones? they let shockwave stay the same, even scorponoc but fucking killed the dinobots. motherfuckers.
What're you talking about they look fine, and the Beast Wars look doesn't seem so bad, but to each his own.:rolleyes:

[MUSOLINI]

What're you talking about they look fine, and the Beast Wars look doesn't seem so bad, but to each his own.:rolleyes:

to each his own, i fucking hate it. you do realize that the style doesnt fit with the g1 designs at all right? but you probably couldnt care about shit like that. why not put optimus primal in it as well? it wouldnt look as out of place as grim and his fucked up design.

[Satomiblood]

MUSOLINI for top hater.

I also think it's hilarious that you say "to each his own" and yet you still manage to berate AG for his opinion.

[MUSOLINI]

MUSOLINI for top hater.

I also think it's hilarious that you say "to each his own" and yet you still manage to berate AG for his opinion.

no? check out the transformers animal and dinobot models. then check out the beastwars ones. then check out the new grimlock and tell me where he belongs more. dont think he belong in either, but sure as hell not G1. and the rest of the dinobots seemed even worse from what i remember. not hating btw, just my thoughts about how they look.

[Tizoc]

If they're thoughts on how they look, why you hating on the artist?