why nuki has problems

[bodler]

ok yall this is my opinion. If you really like akuma, then maybe you must know of nuki, if not youtube his ass!!!:mad:

look at the way nuki plays, he has skill...but no intelligence..no technique.

he can poke the shit out of you, has nice sense of distance, and can pull out ragin demons out of nowhere .

but.. as i said, he has skill, but no technique. HE NEVER LEARNED HOW TO FAKE.. the most common fake in cvs2 is fake a poking strinbg and go for a grab...this is a great fake, and works alot when uve been poking ur oponent for a long and wanna change taktic.

all nuki does is hit and hit and hit you with his gouki un til something happens, it can be good, but if he tried sometimes to fake - grab or fake - ragin demon ( since he does the ragin demon fast ) he would have a better chance. the way he plays is linear, alot of skills but u can just stay there and block him and hope for the best.

i hope im clear..do yall agree with me?

[FlashMetroid]

look at the way nuki plays, he has skill...but no intelligence..no technique.

Your the man :rofl:

[Hail And Kill]

*You're

[bodler]

hehe. I used to play like nuki, but i did it with AALL the characters. poking and poking / doing bigstuff etc without thinking.

Until Rick Fn Stalvey came to my house and we played. There wasnt no big diffrence in skill with both of us althou he had more knowledge. He beat me all the time because he played me like a puppet, faking me all the time wich broke my rythm, he played with perfect technique.

So when i saw this i tried to study what he did and i got a lil hang of it. Next time we played, we wer almost even, i won way way more then before.

[J.D]

This is gotta be the most stupid thread Ive ever seen

Play and then talk.

Nuki's biggest strenght is how consistent he is

[bodler]

play and then talk? ive been playing cvs2 since it came out, i have tried what i am talking about with players that used to beat me all the time and it works. yes he is consistent...consistently linear. I never said he is a bad player. his akuma is way better then mine, but his gameple is linear. have u ever seen in at least ONE of his matchs him grabbing somebody / faking. NO!! and faking is the only way to put an other flavor in ones gameplay wich he doesnt.

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

Someone please lock this thread before this little boy gets himself into more trouble....

[scrubydan]

altho i don't play N groove nor do i play akuma...from what i have observed and heard from evo, nuki does rush senseless, but i might be wrong

[bodler]

look at how Daigo plays. He is so good at keeping you guessing that he can just walk up to you and grab you when hes about half way away from you from the screen. When you see Daigo playing you see variety, he does not just go on his oponenent and hit hit hit hit until something happens, this is why he always goes far. For all the haters at least go see the matchs and try to understand, there is a diffrence beetween skill and technique, nuki has skill, Daigo has skill ANd technique.

[randomsuper]

guy, nuki is really good. the fact that he can hang with n akuma says a lot about how good he really is. he gets countered more than you could ever imagine but pulls out wins left and right. it only looks mindless because you don't play at his level. trust me or anyone who knows anything about the game. he deserves serious props and his mix up game is beyond 95% of the cvs2 world.

[Sendo]

LOL @ this thread. Jokes.

[bodler]

be honest..if nuki faked alot of his endless consistent poking strings, wouldnt he better? yes or no

[randomsuper]

lol. you do realize akuma is a pressure character right? if he's not in your face, he's probably getting smashed.

[bodler]

first of all, you dint answer my question : * be honest..if nuki faked alot of his endless consistent poking strings, wouldnt he better? yes or no *

and second..who said hes a pressure character? so this means that we all have to play him the same way? you must take the character, learn him and make him your own. plus, if its ttrue that his a in your face character, well this is the perfect time to fake right? since oponents will expect endless pokings and etc, they wont exepct any kind of fake. play smart man.

[Mizuki]

Who are you again? I've never heard of you. Why don't you go beat people and then you can talk shit. No one cares if you've been playing since it came out. I've been playing fuckin' Melty Blood B.2 since it came out and I'm not fucking good.

Oh yeah, I bet if he plays you he'll beat you. Faking or not. He wins.

A friend once told me, if it beats people, it works.

[bodler]

Mizuki, all you did, as alot of people did when i posted something such as this, is get pissed and try to attack me. You didnt say nothing and you didnt answer my question : * be honest..if nuki faked alot of his endless consistent poking strings, wouldnt he better? yes or no *

At least put up some good arguments to explain that you diasagree with me. And youve never heard of me...and? ive never heard of you as well. And you say beat people then talk shit? do you know who i play against? are you God or something and knows evrything I do?

And I never said he wont beat me..gosh... sorry but you are acting stupid. I never said he cant beat me lol, I said he would be BETTER!!!! if he faked / used diversity.

you just make me laugh with your angered post LOL.

* Oh yeah, I bet if he plays you he'll beat you. Faking or not. He wins. * how childish LOL

[nothingxs]

i think you're forgetting something very important here.

and that's the fact that he wins more than anyone else on this forum, probably. he wins a lot more than a ton of other players in japan. he does have a mixup game, and he does "fake people out," it is simply in a way you do not quite understand, and at a level you probably can never hope to achieve.

not only that, but sticking out a million pokes is, in itself, already a form of mixup. by playing in a specific, straightforward way, you can train your opponent to react to certain situations in specific ways. when they think they've caught on, you can take the appropriate actions to force your opponent into thinking that your "simple strategy" is actually incomprehensibly effective.

you're just seeing a tiny part of the picture and missing the entire point because of it.

[randomsuper]

what a joke........ :rolleyes:

[randomsuper]

to answer your question, the answer is no. by leaving gaps in his attacks, akuma opens himself up his biggest weakness, which is getting pushed out. grabs are very easy to tech in cvs2 in most cases, so instead of pushing the opponent to the corner and building bar so he can pop and have you afraid of a raging demon so bad you leave yourself open to low shorts, you suggest what? zoning? running up and grabbing? he sucks at that. your suggestion is garbage because it involves removing akumas greatest strength and replacing it with, "gee, let me run up, stop, and grab. sure they can literally just press any button they want and fuck akuma up, but i'll be faking! elite strat!" but yeah, i'm sure you have as much knowledge and experience against top players as nuki does so you aren't just trying to pass off noobish tunnel vision as good advice.

[bodler]

wait a sec..randomsuper..how can a character suck at running on and grabbing? its the same with all the characters. and nothingx, how can sticking a million poke is a form of faking? hes doing the same thing over and over..look at all his matchs, its the same ol thing. hes the kind of player that all you have to do to break his confidence is pic a character that you put him out of his confort zone like vega or blanka etc. Just watch the way Daigo plays, and then compare it to Nuki, youll see what i mean whem im talking about beeing able to play with the oponents mind.

Nuki is not really using strategy, and if he is, the only strategy hes using is poking the shit out of his oponents and then ragin demoning him. hes just really aggressive with no technique. And again i never said he sucks, i say he would be better if he played with more intelligence.

[randomsuper]

sure. if there's one thing you can count on, it's that he's never played any vega's or blanka's before. every match he's played i'm sure has been in his favor.

[seasofcheese929]

Hello. I am a scrub who is new to this game, and I use N (sometimes K) Akuma. I have never heard of Nuki before I saw this thread, so I took your advice and "youtubed his ass." I watched about a dozen matches. Of that dozen, Nuki's Akuma came out on top against his opponent's first character in every match except like 3. Of those 3 opponents, one of them fronted a R2 A-Blanka who RC'd like crazy, and Nuki still managed to get like 80% of his health down. Another was against Ricky's A-Sakura who started the round with full meter. My point is, even if this guy doesn't play the way you think he should, what he does obviously works for him. It seems to me like he has won his share of matches and has earned the right to be treated with more respect than you are showing him. Even though you claim you never said he sucks, it sounds very condescending when you say he "plays without intelligence." Obviously he is intelligent enough to play competitively against the top players in the world.

[Hail And Kill]

Ok this has gotten way out of hand..

Nuki is a top player in CVS2, his style is crazy rush down, thats how he pressures you. Textbook wise, you shouldn't lose to nuki if youre a good player and if hes going crazy, but obviously in reality this fool makes you panic. and for the fact hes not intelligent, hes hella smart. Just cuz he plays crazy, doesn't mean hes not smart. You can NOT judge a player just by videos, everyone should know this shit by now. look at buktooth, fool rolls all day, you say "why not just throw him?", ITS HELLA HARD.

Bodler - I dont want you to respond to this, just read it and think about it. Playing vs someone is WAY WAY different than just watching videos. Things arent how they seem like...I hope you soon realize this in the near future.

[karamba]

Bodler , I never heard of you and you never heard of me, wanna money match me 4 out of 7 for 100$ ??? I'm from Canada so I probably suck, right ??? I'll go at my first majors in the states soon NEC and ECC.... if you can catch me once with your marvelous mixup aka sick MINDGAME of yours I'll throw in 50$ more if you win !!! DEAL or NO DEAL ???

[GunterJPN]

Let me relay you the advice that Nuki gave Tokido prior to his winning Evolution a few years back - "Don't do a move because you think it will be good if it hits. Do a move because you think it WILL hit." Your "mixups" would be good if they hit. WILL they hit? That's questionable. Why gamble for something that isn't even likely, when what you are currently doing is very effective? It makes zero sense whatsoever.

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

be honest..if nuki faked alot of his endless consistent poking strings, wouldnt he better? yes or no
No, he would not, little boy. Now run along and play in your sandbox.

[Maj]

It's an interesting thread, at least.

[seasofcheese929]

If only Nuki could come on this thread and defend himself....

[SNAAAAKE]

haha..scrub :rofl:

*neg reps*

[bodler]

i never said nuki doesnt win or hes not good, he is good and he does win alot. im just saying..his gameplay is linear, he does the same thing over and over, and if your smart and obersve the way he plays, you can easily counter him, one exemple is when he always do this small jump high kick at you when he is done trowing about 2 blocked low kicks. and yall still dont understand, yes he has SKILL!!! but no technique, none at all, there is some much opurtunitys for him where he couldve faked and done some damage where he instead chooses to keep hitting. and for that guy who wants to challenge me with that 50 dollars....WTF LOOOOOOOOOOOLLOLOOLOLOLOL....stupid fuck

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

You can go away now, little boy.

[randomsuper]

so you could beat nuki then? since he's so linear and predictable, i'm sure you'd win for free. :rolleyes:

[nothingxs]

Hello. I am a scrub who is new to this game, and I use N (sometimes K) Akuma. I have never heard of Nuki before I saw this thread, so I took your advice and "youtubed his ass." I watched about a dozen matches. Of that dozen, Nuki's Akuma came out on top against his opponent's first character in every match except like 3. Of those 3 opponents, one of them fronted a R2 A-Blanka who RC'd like crazy, and Nuki still managed to get like 80% of his health down. Another was against Ricky's A-Sakura who started the round with full meter. My point is, even if this guy doesn't play the way you think he should, what he does obviously works for him. It seems to me like he has won his share of matches and has earned the right to be treated with more respect than you are showing him. Even though you claim you never said he sucks, it sounds very condescending when you say he "plays without intelligence." Obviously he is intelligent enough to play competitively against the top players in the world.

this is the cleanest, most logical post in this entire thread. a player who is completely new went, saw what was good, and gave a good, objective opinion with his limited understanding of the game by focusing on what matters: who wins.

bodler, you have "scrub video-watching" syndrome. i thought the same too, i saw some things that bas did in videos and i wanted to try a theory out when i played him for money. the problem is that every time i "spotted" what i wanted to happen, i was already getting hit by it. it's the same for every good player, the way they do things may look so incredibly easy to do, yet it's incredibly hard to do or counter in practice. if you were able to consistently counter what nuki does, hell, if ANY of us were able to consistently counter what nuki does, we'd be fucking winning tournaments. but we're all here getting smashed by this fool with his "unintelligent playstyle." you're really just missing the real point in the end.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=34757

The typical scrub match-evaluation goes like this: You watch the video all the way through, then think back to all the places where someone seemed to blow an advantage, miss something, etc. Now, the first identifying mark of the forum scrub (the modern, louder (though thankfully non-scented) descendant of the mall scrub) is that he always watches videos with respect to what they say about HIM and his precious l33t skeelz. He’s not watching to understand (if he did, he would hardly be the scrub he proves himself to be), he’s watching to try and feel cool about himself, and maybe to find some simple trick or combo he can steal. He feels cool by trying to imagine *himself* playing the match, and thinking how well *he’d* do against the best. Now mind, this isn’t done by getting off their butts to actually *do* it- oh heavens no! (insert excuses about money/parents/gf/having a life/just being too cool/etc, here), but instead, by trying to insert themselves into some random match they saw (a related variant of the same scrub trick: the shockingly dumb transitive fest of "well, I can beat so and so, who once played a guy who once placed 19th in a Cali tournament, so technically, according to logimacality, that means I’m pretty good." And he didn’t even have to leave the mall to figure it out!).

Because your scrubby motive is to always think the best of yourself, rather than understand the truth, a favorite evaluation trick is to pull some sequence entirely out of context. This works by ingeniously ignoring all the expectations, patterns, psychological advantages, and momentum that the other player had established, and just focusing on an isolated incident. What this does is to let the scrub get away with thinking "Sheeeucks! I coulda DP’d that!", or whatever. Bzz. Not only do you fail to notice how much easier it is to think "I coulda DP’d it!" when you ALREADY KNOW WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN (this is the special, scrubs-only variant of the psychic DP: the hindsight DP!), but the obvious fact is that you COULDN’T have. If you could have, you’d be winning tournaments too, instead of pouting at home and taking out your frustrations on training mode (scrubs at home will be reaching for that bag of excuses right about now, again).

Here are a few pointers on how to watch these matches:

Look for what the players DON’T do. "But how can anything interestin’ be a happenin’ if a whole mess o’ life ain’t disappearin’, or if there taint no huge ex-plo-zee-uhn on the screen, or leastwise one uh dem purdy color super-deals?" I know this is hard Merle, but bear with me. Yes, it’s important to notice what they do (with Kim, don’t jump in, poke with st. Short, sweep a lot, etc.), but a lot of times it’s what they *don’t* do. Why aren’t they going for the big Mag Tempest combo with Magneto? "Ooh! I know! It’s because they suck, right?" Bzz. Sorry Cletus, there’s a little more to it.

Basically, this was covered last article. You don’t want to give away opportunities if you don’t have to. In fact, you don’t want to give away anything at all- you want to be minimal in all regards. Think of your bad kung-fu movies if it helps (images of bad kung-fu movies seem to influence scrub-think a lot). Who’s the real badass? Mr. Flying Fists of Fury who’s shooting out twelve million flailing attacks a second, or the calm, cool, collected guy who send Flying Fists packing with a single, well-placed move? There’s a sequence like that in pretty much every one of those movies. When applied to tournaments (since that’s what you’re watching) I call this the lowest common denominator theory- just like Mr. Cool, you want to do as little as possible necessary to still win. And rather than an embarrassment, this is a major skill.

i'm done. if you don't understand the point we're making and why you're so off the mark by this point, then nothing and no one can help you.

[bodler]

good post. but i think you guys are complicating stuff for nothing. first of all, im not starting this just to say that im better then this and better then that. im just saying what i think due to my own experience. what im saying IS....that when i watch nuki playing his akuma on videos, is when i see him trowing all his pokes, i see alot of openings, as instead of trowing the second or third poke, he couldve have dashed to the oponent and grab * after first or second poke * and im 90 percent sure it will work because his oponents wont have time to realise that hes changing tactics because they are used to having their asses poked by his akuma so they will just be here down blocking. and then , thats kinda when you get the oponent, because getting faked gets you off balance, because i know cos ive been faked alot and it messes you up. So i say he has no technique because nuki is one demensional, he hits a combos you and stuff, but if he putted a little bit of fake in it, now he will add an other dimension to his game, i just hope there was a better way i could explain..but i cant. When i dee Daigo play, his game is really difrent and he keeps you guessing, nuki doesnt keep you guessing, he keeps you blocking, its diffrent. please reply with some good stuff.

[randomsuper]

you literally provide nothing but maybe's and i'm 90 percent sure it would work. a random grab here and there will obviously work somewhere, sometime, but you are still beyond wrong. all i'm gonna say is (no offense rick you ultra power bottom) if rick stavley is beating you, you shouldn't be posting opinions on anything, because he's just an ok cvs2 player at best, so that would make you a scrub. 1st rule of srk is scrub opinions are worth dick. they get dominated and then you hear the usual cry of "it's my opinion and it's valid and blah blah blah." this is not a question of opinion though. i think most people will agree that nuki has taken n akuma as far as he can go, or at least as far as is capable right now, and for you to talk shit is kind of retarded.

show me one n akuma player that wins anything using your patient akuma strat. he doesn't exist. you'd have to go to narnia to find that guy because he's not here in this dimension. the only akumas that are even remotely successful are the ones that overwhelm their opponent and basically steal nuki's tactics.

[SNAAAAKE]

rick beats this guy and he is yapping about random garbage ?? fuck outta hurr scrub..never EVER post again :tdown:
like randomsuper said, no offense but if rick stalvey is rushing you down then you shouldnt even be playing this game.


show me one n akuma player that wins anything using your patient akuma strat. he doesn't exist. you'd have to go to narnia to find that guy because he's not here in this dimension. the only akumas that are even remotely successful are the ones that overwhelm their opponent and basically steal nuki's tactics.

very well said.

[megafighter]

first of all, you dint answer my question : * be honest..if nuki faked alot of his endless consistent poking strings, wouldnt he better? yes or no *



He would be worse, way worse. A world champion or japanese champion in many games plays in a level that you cant even understand. Every single thing you think is wrong with nuki is actually a great play. He is probably even more consistent than Daigo overall, and beat Daigo to get the first japanese CvS nationals, for CvS1 I guess. Daigo cant play Akuma as well as Nuki. Probably nobody can. And, according to you, Nuki is being dumb. Maybe you are the first person ever to discover that he can be easily counterable somehow. Now you can get first at Evo by easily countering BAS, Ricky and all of them with your cool video tactics.

Every single thing you think he should do is actually a bad play. Thats why he wins so many tournaments and you dont. Other players mix up, and the majority of them lose to Nuki. Obviously by doing your kind of mixup Nuki would be trading good play for questionable play.


Please please please read this:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=34757

I beg you to read it. All the arguments youve been looking for are explained very clearly in there.

[D@RU]

Listen! I made a great discovery!
There is something i noticed watching videos! I think nuki daigo bas and everyone could play much better because when they throw a poke the opponent could have time to level 3 super them! :D :D :D

I think nuki has mastered his akuma, i guess he knows about dash throw godly strats (n groove no dash though) for a long time, and if he thought it's worth it with akuma, he would use it more.
Dash throw; poke/throw remain risky (especially with low life akuma) and i guess high level players are aware about that, and prepared to punish accordingly any attempt^^ I usually see more tech throw than throws in videos.
And demon setups are way better than normal throw setups, but of course it requires no intelligence in play...... Many people can do demon consistently so why so few can land it???
They have technique too! It should be enough :D

Nuki isn't just his akuma by the way, and he plays chun with "intelligence" in my opinon...

Let's email him about this.

[bodler]

well...not evrybody plays the same. i know what im talking about and i have changed to this tactice against good players not only Rick and i win way way more then i already did then before. Maybe because you people have not yet reached the level of expertise you need to be on my level or you just have a diffrent view on how to be the best at cvs2. for me its not able beeing able to do this or that, its about doing the Right thing at the Right time. maybe by playing against good oponents or with time some of you will understand. Its about beeing able to guess what the oponent is thinking due to what you have done or not done yet...but who cares..im a scrub right? ( or whatever the fuck this means ). If you play this way..it doesnt matter who you choose, even if you lose you will still do good, because these tactics are the same with all characters exept those who really cant do shit maybe like chang. This is where you add up an other dimension to your game, instead of beeing one dimensional. maybe you guys should study basic SF3 third strike fakes..maybe you guys will learn, and it works on alot of other games not only cvs2, as it works also for me in SVC chaos. but...you guys have not reached this level yet..all you guys think of is combo combo hit hit hit hit poke poke poke poke!!!

[randomsuper]

it's official. you suck.

[bodler]

you swallow

[randomsuper]

good comeback scrub.

[randomsuper]

i was just reading some of your posts in other threads, and i think you might have brain damage. seriously, i think you're retarded. your opinions are worth dick and you can't provide any examples or arguments to show why your opinion should be even be considered valid. go back to your cave, learn to play, and just keep your mouth shut when people who know what they're talking about are trying to educate you. got it scrub? :rofl:

[bodler]

wow..you took the time to go over my other posts?...you must admire me.. you like me dont you

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

wow..you took the time to go over my other posts?...you must admire me.. you like me dont you

Quit projecting your sexual fantasies on the rest of us. While these feelings are perfectly normal, little Billy, for children your age, it's just a phase. It'll pass, don't worry!

[randomsuper]

i actually just thought you were someone i knew posting crap to be funny. but i was wrong i guess. you're just some scrub. :rofl:

[vkuwabara]

bodler

Nuki does his poking patterns because he knows it is effective. Of course some of them might be vulnerable at a spot, he knows that. You may be thinking 'oh, if you uppercut you break him', yes, it may be true, but if you do it once, Nuki will make sure it will never happen again. He's not a top player by accident.

Playing against a someone reckless might be hard, because he tries to do things that beat your patterns, but it's risky. A good player knows how to fight against it and bait the unsafe moves.

Those openings that you saw, he is baiting a counter hit at the same time he is punching the defense. He might not trying to throw because he felt it wasn't a good idea at that time.

those top players are not playing with thier 'eyes closed', they are playing observing each other, they know what's risky and when to do it. Sometimes doing stupid things are the best way. Just take a look at JWong with his Cyke at last evo, those moves are clearly unsafe, but worth the risk in that situation.


edit: randomsuper
hey man, if everything goes ok, can I visit you? There's a posibility that I'm going to stay 3 months at Orlando (or is it too far from Miami?)

[bodler]

WOW...vkuwabara...ive been waiting for a good answer to my topic like this. i understand what you saying. Oh well i guess thats his way of playing...if it works for him then ok...but i know what im saying and it works for me almost all the time.

and randomsuper...what makes me say your not a scrub yourself? or wtv the fuck this means ( super crappy uber bastard??)
or maybe saying things like this behing a computer screen makes you feel better about your loser self?

[randomsuper]

shut up bodler. you lost. go back to training mode scrub. :rofl:

vkuwabara, miami is like 3 hours from orlando. post up in the atlantic south forums. hopefully someone can help you out. if you're in the miami area, i'm sure we can link up and get some games in though.

[vkuwabara]

bodler

we know how exceptional he is to land that 'pop...raging demon', I think he spends about 10s preparing a perfect situation to do it.
if you think Randomsuper is a scrub, go watch some vids at youtube, you can find some matches.

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

bodler

we know how exceptional he is to land that 'pop...raging demon', I think he spends about 10s preparing a perfect situation to do it.
if you think Randomsuper is a scrub, go watch some vids at youtube, you can find some matches.

Practice what he preaches, eh? ^_^

[bodler]

i seen ur video randompooper http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzFy23GyJNE

good job on losing both matchs scrub...btw..look at around 8:58 - 9:00

this is only a little of what i mean when i say nuki needs more technique

[randomsuper]

i was playing on a d pad little boy. me and flash are friends so i let him use my stick and i took the pad since we were splitting the pot anyway. add to that the fact that i don't use cammy, and it shows why i was playing pretty crappy. but then again, i'm not talking about how good i am so i don't know what this has to do with anything.

if you'd like to find out if you're actually any good, you could always bet it. ask rick, or ask anyone who plays cvs2 seriously you know who's played me if you have a chance. more than likely they'll tell you you're going to get raped savagely by me.

anything else to say fondler? :rofl:

[ImperialSport]

Your lucky that these people even dignified your scrubtacular thread w/ a response.

[bodler]

i was playing on a d pad little boy. me and flash are friends so i let him use my stick and i took the pad since we were splitting the pot anyway. add to that the fact that i don't use cammy, and it shows why i was playing pretty crappy. but then again, i'm not talking about how good i am so i don't know what this has to do with anything.

if you'd like to find out if you're actually any good, you could always bet it. ask rick, or ask anyone who plays cvs2 seriously you know who's played me if you have a chance. more than likely they'll tell you you're going to get raped savagely by me.

anything else to say fondler? :rofl:


scrubby excuses...did you at least see what i ment when i told you the exemple of the video in wich you lost about technique? you didnt see this grab coming right? well this is technique, and thats only a little bit of what im talking bout.

[seasofcheese929]

I'm not even gonna respond to this thread anymore. This is way too entertaining. I'm just gonna make some popcorn, curl up on the couch, and watch the hilarity ensue.

[MrBuster]

Poke....Grab..... Poke, Poke......Grab..... Grab......Poking Grab.... True tactics of a champion. I don't even know how I ended in the Akuma thread because I prolly will never intend to use him, but seriously your mindless nonsense is rediculous. Just from this past evo, I did have the opportunity to play Nuki and his so believed "Unintelligent" playing style. There is a method behind the madness that is far beyond your understanding. HIS RUSHDOWN IS INTENSE........ And due to the fact that Akuma is not one of the most buffed up characters when it comes to his defense, rushdown is a strong tactic for him. Nuki proves consistantly that his tactics WORK, so basically its a case of " If it ain't broken..... DON'T FUCKING FIX IT". The simple fact is that what you see on video and what you see in ACTUAL gameplay are truly two different things. And for myself actually playing him, he knew exactly what to throw out which was safe, caused pressure, made me panic, and basically led to him kicking my ass. The only thing I can say that I was happy about is that I was a few pixels away from knocking him out of pools in losers.... But thats my own personal high lol. But to sum this all up, theory fighter doesn't work here and as for the little tidbits you think would help his gameplay.... I'm pretty sure he already tested that out for himself to find out which is a more successful tactic. Again, Nuki is not a top player just for the hell of it. Muhfucka WINS!!!!

[bodler]

ya..well..thats part of the point..yes he can pressure..but dont you think that a person thats super good at pressuring would own his oponents more if he faked? in cvs2..for me there is alot of types of players...does who have just started the fundementals of cvs2, and that will react to anything that happens with a simple move, wich you can counter, they are very easy to beat, second, are the ones who are very very very skilled who can pressure you to death, but that never change their tactics ( like you know who ) and there are others that are skilled enought, and uses tactics. i prefer to be the one whi is skilled enough and uses tactics :)

[D@RU]

Sea of cheese are there any popcorn left??? Show hasn't ended yet!

[MrBuster]

Just how Nuki's tactics is as you claim to be linear and constantly the same. You are doing the same ass thing right now with your lame ass constant barrage of dumbass theories of why YOU think that Nuki should change his style up. So in a way you both are just alike, Nuki does his tactics of constant pressure to win and you do your constant post of stupidity to piss people the fuck off.

So I guess your a chip off the old block after all...

[bodler]

Just how Nuki's tactics is as you claim to be linear and constantly the same. You are doing the same ass thing right now with your lame ass constant barrage of dumbass theories of why YOU think that Nuki should change his style up. So in a way you both are just alike, Nuki does his tactics of constant pressure to win and you do your constant post of stupidity to piss people the fuck off.

So I guess your a chip off the old block after all...


No..im doing the same thing to help novices compared to me realise that the way nuki plays can be enhanced, dont worry man..you guys will get to this level some day when you will udnerstand how cvs2 really works, just a matter of time

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

Sea of cheese are there any popcorn left??? Show hasn't ended yet!

Can I have some too?

[MrBuster]

No..im doing the same thing to help novices compared to me realise that the way nuki plays can be enhanced, dont worry man..you guys will get to this level some day when you will udnerstand how cvs2 really works, just a matter of time

Wow... By the way you talk, you must be somehow related to TheLegendsOfLore. Your l33tness is unquestionable. Oh you L33t person you...

[SNAAAAKE]

:rofl: @ the train wreck

[randomsuper]

this guy is a joke. let me know when you feel like paying for my gas aka playing me for money. scrub. :rofl:

[seasofcheese929]

Sea of cheese are there any popcorn left??? Show hasn't ended yet!

Can I have some too?

Looks like I'm gonna need a bigger bowl....

[ImperialSport]

It seems you just can't admit that your wrong. You can't isolate 4 or 5 seconds from a match and then conclude that the particular tactic is scrubby.

In reality those 4 or 5 seconds are a actually a result of what may or may not have happened through out the entirety of the match.

If you truly believe that you have uncovered something worthwhile, then good for you and use it to win tournaments. Only then will you gain credibility.

If not: You might as well ask Roger Federer to "make it spin more".

[bodler]

man..just look at the last video link i posted on randompoopers match, scrioll up, this is what i mean by what nuki needs to do more, it worked againts randompooper dint it?

[randomsuper]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: so do you wanna play me for money or not pussy? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[D@RU]

That brand of popcorn actually tastes good!

Bodler, you like to take a few seconds of a match to judge a player, so i can do the same. Look from 2:00 to 2:12. The opponent is stuck in the corner, everything is alright, then he goes for a throw mixup with tiger knee, and get... tech throwed and almost killed because tech throw resets the game and pressure.
Even in tense situation good players watch out for throws attempts.
So your strat, since YOU discovered tick throw would likely fail let's say 7 times out of 10.

Since you want to apply this to akuma, that means 7 times out of 10 akuma gets killed.
Nuki plays constant pressure, and if he went for tick throw, it would actually look the same as the part of vid i mentionned, no matter how good he is. He would get tech throwed as well.
So to answer you, NO he wouldn't be better using your strat.

Now it's up to you to bring us a proof while developping your own akuma style and challenging nuki^^
good luck, you'll need luck more than technique and intelligence!

[seasofcheese929]

That brand of popcorn actually tastes good!


You like it? It's Orville Scrub-enbachers. I thought it would be appropriate. Yo Lobelia Boy, can you pass the butter? It looks like this is still going.

[FlashMetroid]

Until Rick Fn Stalvey came to my house and we played. There wasnt no big diffrence in skill with both of us althou he had more knowledge. He beat me all the time because he played me like a puppet, faking me all the time wich broke my rythm, he played with perfect technique.

this post alone tells me you suck and your new to the game

rick is my boy though but if you he beats you more then you beat him your no where near as good as you try to make yourself sound so shut the hell up and get better before you talk scrub

[SNAAAAKE]

^ AHAHAHAHAHHAAHA :rofl: I actually didnt read the part above. rick playing with perfect technique ?? whatever you are smoking I want some. I OWN rick but check out some perfect techniques lol :tup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76MhvARgH0


oh and close thread already..this is so lame. go email nuki or something and see if he gives a shit about what you think.

[randomsuper]

i love this thread. it's the most entertaining one i've read in a while.

[bodler]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: so do you wanna play me for money or not pussy? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

are you stupid? where not even in the same place. your just acting tough now cos you already know we cant even play cos we are to far..your the pussy.

and i dont know what you guys are on..but Rick is good, i have played him with his best chars and he is hard to beat.

you guys are changing the stuff just cos you know im right..its ok...you will leanr when you will quit playing against your little sisters

[randomsuper]

i thought you were in florida for some reason since you play rick. so it's worse than i thought. your an xbox live scrub talking shit. you suck and should just shut up before you look even dumber than you do now. go practice your gay tactics in training mode bum. good luck beating the computer! you should try your whiff jab, run up grab strat vs the game on easy mode to test your theories bum. :rofl:

[seasofcheese929]

Bodler: Do you know what SRK is? SRK is a place where people of all skill levels can come and get advice from the pros. As much as I love CVS2, I admit that I am probably the least skilled player posting on this thread. Randomsuper and other generous posters have given me valuable advice on how to form a team, how to use certain characters, ect. This is a privilege, not a right. Most of the really skilled players that post here are just trying to help others. You have abused this privilege. You created a thread and posted your opinion, and there's nothing wrong with that. Many regular posters who have a great knowledge of the game have taken their precious time to politely explain to you the errors of your logic. And what do you give them in return? Insults. Disrespect. I consider that an insult to people like me who just come here to learn the game better and are grateful to anyone who takes the time to help us out. What's to stop one of the pros who posts here from saying, "I'm tired of people like Bodler pissing me off. I'm not gonna post on SRK anymore."? Where does that leave me? Believe it or not, guys like Randomsuper and NothingXS and Hail and Kill know what they're talking about. Seriously. Have you noticed that no one here agrees with you? Come on, dude. What are you trying to prove?

[ImperialSport]

Just compare his Cvs2 Akuma to his Chun Li from 3rd strike. In 3rd strike he does what your talkin about (tick grab mix up) because it works well for Chun li in that game. So clearly he knows about this tactic, and still choses not to transfer it to Akuma. What does that tell you?

[vkuwabara]

/\ aplause for both of you

[ImperialSport]

:tup:

[bodler]

Bodler: Do you know what SRK is? SRK is a place where people of all skill levels can come and get advice from the pros. As much as I love CVS2, I admit that I am probably the least skilled player posting on this thread. Randomsuper and other generous posters have given me valuable advice on how to form a team, how to use certain characters, ect. This is a privilege, not a right. Most of the really skilled players that post here are just trying to help others. You have abused this privilege. You created a thread and posted your opinion, and there's nothing wrong with that. Many regular posters who have a great knowledge of the game have taken their precious time to politely explain to you the errors of your logic. And what do you give them in return? Insults. Disrespect. I consider that an insult to people like me who just come here to learn the game better and are grateful to anyone who takes the time to help us out. What's to stop one of the pros who posts here from saying, "I'm tired of people like Bodler pissing me off. I'm not gonna post on SRK anymore."? Where does that leave me? Believe it or not, guys like Randomsuper and NothingXS and Hail and Kill know what they're talking about. Seriously. Have you noticed that no one here agrees with you? Come on, dude. What are you trying to prove?



look back closely into all the posts of this tread..i am not the one who started insulting, its some random idiot who started saying that im dumb or something like that, just go back and watch carefully. And nobody is gonna leave srk because i posted such a tread, if so they are weak pussys. And yes i listended to the good arguments against my tread, and if u look closely i aggreed, but i always posted that even thou i agreed, i still holded my posistion, and after i said that...some other bastard starts insulting me again. So breifly, i put out my thesis, some dude insults me, i strike back but not even by insulting, and rarely somebody posted something good agains t my thesis, wich i agreed, but still politely holded my position, and then again some random dude starts insulting me again. Go back and watch all the posts.

and i bet after this post that i just posted, some random dude is gonna insult me...watch

[bodler]

i thought you were in florida for some reason since you play rick. so it's worse than i thought. your an xbox live scrub talking shit. you suck and should just shut up before you look even dumber than you do now. go practice your gay tactics in training mode bum. good luck beating the computer! you should try your whiff jab, run up grab strat vs the game on easy mode to test your theories bum. :rofl:

perfect exemple of somebody whos just trying to insult me. If he realy dint like me and tired of this tread..he would just not post in it and ignore it right? nooo.instead he trys to piss me off...ha nice try.

and to answer randomsuper..im in fort myers

[seasofcheese929]

Go back to the first page and look at Randomsuper's first two posts on this thread. There were no insults. Just polite explanations of the weaknesses in your thesis. He didn't resort to insults until you frustrated him into doing so. Do you realize why people have been insulting you though? Nuki is one of the top players in the world. The thought of someone no one has even heard of criticizing the way he plays is flat out ridiculous. If you had gone to Evo and defeated Nuki yourself, then you'd have the right to give him advice. And after several really, really good posts by Randomsuper, Nothingxs, GunterJPN, Hail and Kill and MrBuster (sorry if I forgot anyone) defending the way he plays, you still stubbornly hold on to your rediculious claim. It's like telling Albert Einstein that E doesn't equal mc squared, no matter how much evidence he shows you on the contrary.

[ImperialSport]

Bodler: What do you think in terms of my response?

[bodler]

Go back to the first page and look at Randomsuper's first two posts on this thread. There were no insults. Just polite explanations of the weaknesses in your thesis. He didn't resort to insults until you frustrated him into doing so. Do you realize why people have been insulting you though? Nuki is one of the top players in the world. The thought of someone no one has even heard of criticizing the way he plays is flat out ridiculous. If you had gone to Evo and defeated Nuki yourself, then you'd have the right to give him advice. And after several really, really good posts by Randomsuper, Nothingxs, GunterJPN, Hail and Kill and MrBuster (sorry if I forgot anyone) defending the way he plays, you still stubbornly hold on to your rediculious claim. It's like telling Albert Einstein that E doesn't equal mc squared, no matter how much evidence he shows you on the contrary.

nope...i know what you mean....but i dont see how i got anybody mad..al i did was DEFENDING my thesis to all those who disagreed with it, until someone there poped out * hes stupid * and some other dude poped out * hes a scrub * and some other dude poped out * i bet you suck * its like if i dont agree with you guys, you will start insulting me. im just looking for a good argumentation not some dude telling me im a scrub becausem my opinion isnt the same as his, and if people wer really pissed, why are they posting o nthis tread? its like going to a place that you hate, but going there evryday anyway, why are you going here if this place pisses you off?

[bodler]

Bodler: What do you think in terms of my response?


to answer ur last post...I dont see why nuki wouldnt transfer this tactic into cvs2, it works in SF3 right then why not in cvs2? i say that it doesnt matter wich game you play, if the game has alot of poking in it , faking something that is generaly done often will work alot. and in alot of game, including cvs2, poking is done often, so faking will work sometimes if done in the right time. and if nuki faked his pokings,i think he would better then he already is. since he is one of the best at pressuring, i gues it is only logical that if he dd something else, like faking, he will catch alot of guard.

[vkuwabara]

now you're being racional, saying that in your opinion "if nuki faked his pokings,i think he would better then he already is", it sound different from you 1st post.

I'll help you then.

arguing against your theories, I could say:
1- what are the consequences of grabbing while pressuring?
2- how does it affect your opponent gameplay? maybe opponent will start mashing tech hit, or jump more...
3- how really effective would it be? maybe you would take an unnecessary risk.
4- what if the opponent tech hits? (this was answered: Nuki loses his offensive pattern)
5- don't you think his pressure somehow causes fear? don't you think it prepares a scenario for landing a Raging Demon?
6- how effective would be a less offensive-pressuring Akuma?


my own opinions:
-you don't have to be the best in the world or know how to do to criticize something. (or do you know how to make a movie to criticize it?)
-being the best in something doesn't mean you know everything and you can't be touched. Knowledge is one thing, ability is other. (Michael Jordan would be the best coach in basketball )
-I'm not saying that anyone of you aren't capable or something alike, I respect your opinions, I am just as random as anyone, since I didn't win any tourney or didn't play any top player (yet:))

[randomsuper]

opinions are like assholes and it's really easy to be a critic online. if you were getting ocv'ed by someone with a "lesser technique", you wouldn't say shit about it. you'd take the loss. period. and then you'd discuss it with your friend and say "man that guy is good!"

there is nothing worse than a critic, especially one that has ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. so, as i've said before and will continue to say, until you're ready to show everyone how good you really are, maybe you should just keep your "constructive" criticism to yourself.

and for the record, you don't have to be a top player to recognize skill, but to talk shit about an established player when you place last at the grandma invitational tournament at the local video store is retarded.

[pyro_dragun]

Bodler: Do you know what SRK is? SRK is a place where people of all skill levels can come and get advice from the pros. As much as I love CVS2, I admit that I am probably the least skilled player posting on this thread. *SNIP*

Well, now that I'm posting in here, your only the second least skilled. :wink:

This thread is too entertaining.

I already knew who Nuki was from 3s, but I hadn't seen his Akuma before, so I went and youtubed him, and Nuki's Akuma looks very solid, and from my limited knowledge of CvS2, I don't think Akuma is meant to be played the way Bodler is describing for a couple of reasons. One is that a less offensive akuma is less likely to force more mistakes out of panics. Two, in CvS2, throws are pretty easy to tech... even I can do them, and I suck at the game. Maybe it's just me, but when my roommate plays Akuma, I tend to do worse against it when he just "rushes that shit down" and keeps applying pressure.

Anyways, bodler, I think Nuki's experience and knowledge of this game translates to how he plays his Akuma, and since he is able to compete with the best, he has some reason for not playing his akuma by doing the crap you suggested. Maybe it just isn't effective at high level play? Besides, as of right now, you are making a complete fool out of yourself bodler.

[vkuwabara]

opinions are like assholes and it's really easy to be a critic online. if you were getting ocv'ed by someone with a "lesser technique", you wouldn't say shit about it. you'd take the loss. period. and then you'd discuss it with your friend and say "man that guy is good!"

there is nothing worse than a critic, especially one that has ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. so, as i've said before and will continue to say, until you're ready to show everyone how good you really are, maybe you should just keep your "constructive" criticism to yourself.

and for the record, you don't have to be a top player to recognize skill, but to talk shit about an established player when you place last at the grandma invitational tournament at the local video store is retarded.
absolutely, I forgot to add:
-you can criticize, but if you talk shit, prepare for retaliation
that's what happened to our friend bodler :rofl:


pyro: is it that easy to tech? I found it so hard. I just tech when I'm also trying to throw

[bodler]

look at the 3 last posts...do you see what i mean by people just coming here and try to piss me off? and then your gonna say its me? just look at my last post and the 3 last ones, you can clealrly say that they are just trying to piss me off, i dont see whats ur point on posting those post that are just trying to degrade me i im just gonna ignore them and keep posting until i get my answer, if u dont like this tread just dont post in it you stupid fucks, no life, you have nothgn better to do then post in a fuckin tread you dont like?

[bodler]

now you're being racional, saying that in your opinion "if nuki faked his pokings,i think he would better then he already is", it sound different from you 1st post.

I'll help you then.

arguing against your theories, I could say:
1- what are the consequences of grabbing while pressuring?
2- how does it affect your opponent gameplay? maybe opponent will start mashing tech hit, or jump more...
3- how really effective would it be? maybe you would take an unnecessary risk.
4- what if the opponent tech hits? (this was answered: Nuki loses his offensive pattern)
5- don't you think his pressure somehow causes fear? don't you think it prepares a scenario for landing a Raging Demon?
6- how effective would be a less offensive-pressuring Akuma?






my own opinions:
-you don't have to be the best in the world or know how to do to criticize something. (or do you know how to make a movie to criticize it?)
-being the best in something doesn't mean you know everything and you can't be touched. Knowledge is one thing, ability is other. (Michael Jordan would be the best coach in basketball )
-I'm not saying that anyone of you aren't capable or something alike, I respect your opinions, I am just as random as anyone, since I didn't win any tourney or didn't play any top player (yet:))



i get your point, especially number 6, but after thinking bout it i came up with some breif conclusion over the night. I guess * when talking offensivly only * that depending on the player, you can play as i said or the way nuki, either you use a little of my technique and pressuring, either u use my technique often and less pressuring ( wich wont work for long cos the oponent will catch you if u repeat to much ) or you could play with complete pressuring and give up the whole faking thing. So i guess this is how nuki choses to play his akuma because it works best for him, and i realise he completly discarded grabing his oponents to concentrate on pressuring. even thought i think he takes out a big aspect of the game, he enhances an other, and this other that im talking about works well with n groove only because of small jump helps on pressuring.

[randomsuper]

i honestly wasn't trying to offend anyone in my last post. don't be so sensitive. and for the record, i fucking love this thread! it's like general discussion, but with a topic i actually want to post about. :rofl:

[bodler]

and its one of the reasons why i created it. cos its more interesting then the usual

[randomsuper]

yea, but interesting or not, what you think will make his akuma better will in fact only make it worse. a general statement like "he should use more grab mix ups in his game" might sound logical, but in reality, it's taking away from the characters strengths and the players play style. watching a video doesn't really tell you much about why a player is good and it's really easy to watch a vid and say he shoud have done this here and he shouldn't have done this there. at the end of the day, no one plays perfect theory fighter cvs2, and i still think that more often than not the things that you think are random dumb shit will work because over the course of a match you're developing a feel for your opponents patterns as well as attempting to condition the person you're playing against to react certain ways to what you're doing. it's hard to explain unless you've been playing at a level that i just don't think you see yet, so it's very difficult to appreciate it. in regards to the level of comp you've played, trust me when i say that you are in the very shallow end of the talent pool as far as cvs2 is concerned.

[bodler]

trust me i am at that level..its juts that to all the players ive played in arcades i never played any akuma,and never used him.

i will use MY akuma all the time for a while againts good players now to really test if there is really no way i can use my technique with this kind of character and if not the fuck it i might not use him unless its just for fun.

btw if u go by fort myers ( wich is around 2 hours from miami ) pm me.

[JJJ]

this thread is gold..lol 15 minutes well spent~:rofl:

[bodler]

what is this credit shit below my name

[SNAAAAKE]

this thread is gold..lol 15 minutes well spent~:rofl:

off topic but did anyone record you beating kindevu with S groove at EVO ??

[JJJ]

not sure.. I wish I could scan the witnesses' brains and put the memories on tape..lol btw, let me know if you find it somewhere, but my summary probably already ruined the match if you read it before watching the video..lol

[seasofcheese929]

I just youtubed a match of Kindevu defeating Ino at SBO 2. Damn, you beat a guy like that with S groove?! That's really impressive. Ironically, Kindevu was dominated by Nuki's Akuma right afterwards :rofl:

[Sendo]

trust me i am at that level..

Clearly.

And do you really think tap - throw/mixup is "your technique"?

Keep it coming Bodler, every couple of days i log onto SRK just to have a laugh at this thread.

[GunterJPN]

I can' t believe this thread is still going on. Just look at it logically. If you switch to a throw, what happens? A) it connects, B) it gets teched, C) it gets reversed.

In situation A, which is the best possible scenario, you just gave up ground. You have to get back in again and start all over. In the end, you're going to be doing the same thing that Nuki does in the first place - running c.jabs/shorts. Obviously, situations B and C get you fucked, and for the character with the lowest life in the game, that's not good. Not to mention that you just reset their stun meter.

Now look at what a c.jab or c.short will get you. If you do those instead of a throw, what happens? A) it connects, B) it gets blocked, C) it gets reversed.

Let's look at situation B first. It gets blocked. Oh well. Do it again.
How about situation C? Oh wow, it's the same consequence as going for a throw. The difference is (and it's a huge difference) is that the c.jabs and c.shorts are faster and harder to reverse.

Now the best case scenario - a c.jab or c.short connects. You can hit confirm that into a couple of more. You can combo a sweep off that. You can combo a DP off that. The DP leads to more mixups, or you just go back to rushing down.

The best possible scenario for a connected throw does 1700 damage for a punch throw and 2000 damage for a kick throw. It resets the stun meter and doesn't set up anything outside of the corner.

The best possible scenario for a connected c.jab leads to over 3000 damage (c.jab x2, c.roundhouse, short hurricane, fierce dp is what I came up with, for 3400 damage, but I'm not an Akuma player so I dunno what's the best possible damage). Obviously this means over 30 stun. It sets up air fireball mixups for more potential damage.

I forget. WHY should you go for a throw again?:rolleyes:

[aks216]

bodler: you're acting like he never throws with akuma.

have you seen this video?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5xnlP_sTTXs

it's nuki vs. ricky ortiz. and ricky ortiz is EASILY top 3 cvs2 player in the U.S. this was taken last year.

he plays perfectly fine with akuma. i dunno what you want him to do. throw more?

you say nuki doesn't play intelligently. have you ever seen the last samurai? the one japanese dude goes up to tom cruise and is like..."TOO MANY MIND, TOO MANY MIND, NO MIND". shit nigg, that's how nuki is playing...he's playing smart, he just doesn't play with a brain. wait, shit, ok, he plays with a brain but not with a heart? damnit, i just done lost myself. ok, what i'm trying to get at is, nuki does not think a LOT about what he wants to do, he just does it and follows through with it. the thing most players get caught up in is thinking twice about what they wanna do, and by that time, sometimes it's too late.

nuki is definitely a smart player. honestly, it just seems to me that you're not really understanding why he ISN'T throwing. there's a LOT of reasons why he isn't. if he doesn't get the throw, he just lost quite a bit of momentum, and that is crucial to akuma's game. another reason why he might not wanna throw is because he prolly just doesn't feel that he has that opportunity. it's a lot harder than you think, he just isn't close enough. if you watch the video above, in the 2nd match, he DOES bust out a throw, but he was in good range too. during rushdown, with every jab, every attack, he's getting pushed away, so the ONLY chance he'd get to throw is after his first attack, but for the MOST part, good players watch for that shit.

just remember, too many mind...no mind.

[randomsuper]

"have you ever seen the last samurai? the one japanese dude goes up to tom cruise and is like..."TOO MANY MIND, TOO MANY MIND, NO MIND". shit nigg, that's how nuki is playing...he's playing smart, he just doesn't play with a brain. wait, shit, ok, he plays with a brain but not with a heart? damnit, i just done lost myself."

no offense, but for whatever reason, that post is one of the funniest things i think i've ever read on srk. when my friends are playing, i'm just yelling that shit out from now on. :rofl:

[ImperialSport]

*Snip*

In a nutshell. :tup:

[seasofcheese929]

The best possible scenario for a connected c.jab leads to over 3000 damage (c.jab x2, c.roundhouse, short hurricane, fierce dp is what I came up with, for 3400 damage

Can you combo a c.roundhouse into a short hurricane? I thought that couldn't be done since the c.roundhouse knocks down.

[bodler]

bodler: you're acting like he never throws with akuma.

have you seen this video?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5xnlP_sTTXs

it's nuki vs. ricky ortiz. and ricky ortiz is EASILY top 3 cvs2 player in the U.S. this was taken last year.

he plays perfectly fine with akuma. i dunno what you want him to do. throw more?

you say nuki doesn't play intelligently. have you ever seen the last samurai? the one japanese dude goes up to tom cruise and is like..."TOO MANY MIND, TOO MANY MIND, NO MIND". shit nigg, that's how nuki is playing...he's playing smart, he just doesn't play with a brain. wait, shit, ok, he plays with a brain but not with a heart? damnit, i just done lost myself. ok, what i'm trying to get at is, nuki does not think a LOT about what he wants to do, he just does it and follows through with it. the thing most players get caught up in is thinking twice about what they wanna do, and by that time, sometimes it's too late.

nuki is definitely a smart player. honestly, it just seems to me that you're not really understanding why he ISN'T throwing. there's a LOT of reasons why he isn't. if he doesn't get the throw, he just lost quite a bit of momentum, and that is crucial to akuma's game. another reason why he might not wanna throw is because he prolly just doesn't feel that he has that opportunity. it's a lot harder than you think, he just isn't close enough. if you watch the video above, in the 2nd match, he DOES bust out a throw, but he was in good range too. during rushdown, with every jab, every attack, he's getting pushed away, so the ONLY chance he'd get to throw is after his first attack, but for the MOST part, good players watch for that shit.

just remember, too many mind...no mind.



did u see him do anything technical with him akuma on this match?

[bodler]

im not talking about having to think all the time, their are certain techniques that you aquire by yourself when you play alot...this is why evrybody plays diffrent ( most of ). its not about tehinking..its about technique, the more you play, the more you see that the things u can do in cvs2 are not that much, even thos evry attack is diffrent the concept is the same, u do either this or this or that or that. and the reason i talked like this about nuki is because he only uses one concept ( talking offensevly that is )

and this one concept that he used all the time dint work againt vega ( wich usualy dont )

[Gouki7]

off topic but did anyone record you beating kindevu with S groove at EVO ??

Damn I wanna see that match.

[vkuwabara]

Can you combo a c.roundhouse into a short hurricane? I thought that couldn't be done since the c.roundhouse knocks down.
Akuma can juggle, he can hit 2 times in the air

[seasofcheese929]

Akuma can juggle, he can hit 2 times in the air

Cool. I can get the cr.roundhouse to short hurricane now, but I can't seem to connect the fierce DP afterwards? Is the timing on that really strict or something? (Sorry for going totally off topic here :sweat: )

[aks216]

bodler: i think after you play a couple of really good cvs2 players for a while, you'll change your entire mindset.

whatever nuki is doing is winning. accept that.

[bodler]

bodler: i think after you play a couple of really good cvs2 players for a while, you'll change your entire mindset.

whatever nuki is doing is winning. accept that.


you guys can tell me i dont play good players all you want..it doesnt matter cos i know i play good players all the time..and sum tournament level shit.

it seems you just dint understand my last post, this one thing that nuki does with his akuma, wont work againts a good vega, now if he knew how to take on other offensive strategies, maybe trying to play a lil more defensivly in this case since this match was at his disfavor, he would have a better chance.

* HE PLAYED THIS VEGA LIKE IT WAS ONE OF HIS USUAL AKUMAS NUKI VS A NON BLANKA/VEGA/CAMMY/sakura FIGHT * his play style will work only on the type of characters beginners and mid level players chose.

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

you guys can tell me i dont play good players all you want..it doesnt matter cos i know i play good players all the time..and sum tournament level shit.

it seems you just dint understand my last post, this one thing that nuki does with his akuma, wont work againts a good vega

So that's why Nuki more or less wipes the floor with Ricky Ortiz?
Like I said, little boy, go back to your sandbox. This is grown-up time, okay?

[D@RU]

Bodler is a robot, a joker, coming from pluto, a big fake!!!
Your don't even understand what others tried so hard to explain, you just keep repeating, "yes, but if he tick/throw then..." x 3221564 times.
Normal human would understand! You can't be serious!

If you are,
I wish that at next evo, there will be a video like the one mentionned above, where we can see spectators. I hope to see you watching nuki play, then explaining him on camera how he should improve his game! And finally face him in a money match!
With dozen people laughing so much that they would shit in their pants!

This moment will become far more known than Evo moment #37! That's for sure!

[bodler]

its ok man..one day you will understand when you get to the next level, i bet you guys dint even try to understand what i ment in my last post and just try to demenish me. i wont even answer back to you if your not even argumentation agaist my post but just degrading me, like your hurting ym feelings over a computer..lol

[beatsofdevil]

crapits ok man..one day you will understand when you get to the next level, i bet you dint even try to understand what everyone ment in their posts....

[bodler]

i did understand..and unlike most of yall i answerd back on what you said, but most of you dont even answer back to my post, in general all u do is call me a dumbass scrub...lol?

[pyro_dragun]

i did understand..and unlike most of yall i answerd back on what you said, but most of you dont even answer back to my post, in general all u do is call me a dumbass scrub...lol?

The only problem is that you keep saying the same basic things over and over in each of your replies...


The rushdown seemed to work pretty good against Ricky Ortiz's vega in that vid...

[seasofcheese929]

Dude, did you even watch the second match where Nuki's Akuma totally wrecks Ricky's Vega?

[Buktooth]

the funny thing is, the one that truly doesn't know how to attack is bodler

there's definitely a mix up going on in nukis rushdown, it's just more subtle than the straight forward mid/low/throw mix up

i could close this thread, but i think its making people a lot happier having it around

[ImperialSport]

I feel it's no longer in our generosity to try and get this scrub to think outside the vagueness of his claims.

We've tried our best to reason w/ you.

None the less as a last attempt:

I recommend posting a vid of you doing your tactic against someone reasonably decent.

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

the funny thing is, the one that truly doesn't know how to attack is bodler

there's definitely a mix up going on in nukis rushdown, it's just more subtle than the straight forward mid/low/throw mix up

i could close this thread, but i think its making people a lot happier having it around

Thank you, Buk. You are truly a benevolant dictator. :lol:

[valaris]

I was promised lulz by coming into this thread. I have not been disapointed.

[pyro_dragun]

the funny thing is, the one that truly doesn't know how to attack is bodler

there's definitely a mix up going on in nukis rushdown, it's just more subtle than the straight forward mid/low/throw mix up

i could close this thread, but i think its making people a lot happier having it around

<3 Buk, no homo.


I was promised lulz by coming into this thread. I have not been disapointed.
I loled when I read this, literally.

[Sendo]

I recommend posting a vid of you doing your tactic against someone reasonably decent.

Yeah, please do bodler. Help us to see "the next level".

And yeah, please leave the thread open, it's my source of daily jokes.

[randomsuper]

officially my favorite thread. it's been an honor to contribute to it's greatness.

[bodler]

you guys think of me as the wrong way..you think the only thing im saying is that evrybody should poke - trow...thats not what im saying man. Im just saying that people who plays shouldnt rely on one type of attack, the poke trow thing is just one and i repeat one option.
its not like when i play all i do is hit and trow? i will do when the time is right, when i know and feel the oponent is just gonna stand there down blocking. and if i dont feel like hes gonna be down blocking? then i swicht into something else, simple as that. but there is people out there who, wtv happens will do the same thing over and over.

[Atb_555]

(*sigh*)
Here you go bodler... (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Atb_555/1094835467054.jpg)

[bodler]

hahaha?

[randomsuper]

Jokes and jokes and jokes and jokes.

[Hellion]

Hey guys.

Bodler, man there are only 2 types of attacks in the game...
things that hit, and throws right?

They say here that top players tech throw a lot more than not 'cause throws are easy enough to spot when you're that experienced enough, and with Akuma the risk vs reward AGAINST top players he simply can't do that until he feels his opponent's brain has turned to mush, if ever.

Been a while since I've seen the mans vids, but he uses all sorts of mixups, more than what you've stated in this entire thread.
He uses empty low jump c.lks, throws in low j.hks, has air fireball mixups (tiger kneed in N groove IIRC, hard to do), a constant barrage of attacks which both whittles down your guard bar and keeps whatever stun dealt with the constant barrage so he has a stronger chance of landin his untechable Raging Demon, which he has a book of setups for hard wired into his brain through practice.

So when you think about it, for Akuma especially there are more than 2 types of attacks in the game...
hi hits, low hits, counter hits, guard crush strings (all leading to Akuma style damage) throws, tech throws,
and of course his signature move that's uniquely his:
Demon

The game is more than just a tech throw here and there after a constant barrage of attacks hoping to fool your opponent because they're smart enough to block. It's about sensing whether or not the flow of the match is in your hands or not, and making it so if it isn't.

You keep comparing Diego to this guy, but Diego's character selections demand a different play style from what you're expecting of N-Akuma.

Been a while since I've played, so my skill and "technique" are probably in the pits right now but hell I'll ride over to wherever you're at and own you if I feel the match is mine.

[ImperialSport]

(*sigh*)
Here you go bodler... (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Atb_555/1094835467054.jpg)

Is it bad that I laughed?

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

officially my favorite thread. it's been an honor to contribute to it's greatness.
tr00f. Subscribed.

[seasofcheese929]

you guys think of me as the wrong way..you think the only thing im saying is that evrybody should poke - trow...thats not what im saying man. Im just saying that people who plays shouldnt rely on one type of attack, the poke trow thing is just one and i repeat one option.
its not like when i play all i do is hit and trow? i will do when the time is right, when i know and feel the oponent is just gonna stand there down blocking. and if i dont feel like hes gonna be down blocking? then i swicht into something else, simple as that. but there is people out there who, wtv happens will do the same thing over and over.

You know, that's advice that I can actually relate to. One of the most consistent criticisms I get from the better players in my area is that I stick to one strategy no matter what, and it makes me very predictable. It's something I've been trying to improve on for a while. If the title of this thread was "Why Seas of Cheese has problems," you would have just made a valid point. However, the title of this thread is "Why Nuki has problems." Accusing someone who regularly beasts guys like Ricky Ortiz and Kindevu of such scrubbery is absolutely ludicrous.

[Bob Poundmax]

It's official, I'm no longer the worst poster on SRK. Dammit.....

[aks216]

you guys think of me as the wrong way..you think the only thing im saying is that evrybody should poke - trow...thats not what im saying man. Im just saying that people who plays shouldnt rely on one type of attack, the poke trow thing is just one and i repeat one option.
its not like when i play all i do is hit and trow? i will do when the time is right, when i know and feel the oponent is just gonna stand there down blocking. and if i dont feel like hes gonna be down blocking? then i swicht into something else, simple as that. but there is people out there who, wtv happens will do the same thing over and over.

no, i think we get it. ohnuki is a good player. you criticized his play. your criticism is not credible because you are not known as a good player. and your criticism is basically stating that he doesn't mix up his play. that is the jist of it. i think we get that perfectly fine.

like buk said, he is mixing up his play, it's just subtle. your rushdown is nowhere near as good as his. your basically criticizing him because when YOU try doing the same shit, it doesn't work. you're not nuki.

don't take my post as if i'm tryin to flame you.

[bodler]

Hey guys.

Bodler, man there are only 2 types of attacks in the game...
things that hit, and throws right?

They say here that top players tech throw a lot more than not 'cause throws are easy enough to spot when you're that experienced enough, and with Akuma the risk vs reward AGAINST top players he simply can't do that until he feels his opponent's brain has turned to mush, if ever.

Been a while since I've seen the mans vids, but he uses all sorts of mixups, more than what you've stated in this entire thread.
He uses empty low jump c.lks, throws in low j.hks, has air fireball mixups (tiger kneed in N groove IIRC, hard to do), a constant barrage of attacks which both whittles down your guard bar and keeps whatever stun dealt with the constant barrage so he has a stronger chance of landin his untechable Raging Demon, which he has a book of setups for hard wired into his brain through practice.

So when you think about it, for Akuma especially there are more than 2 types of attacks in the game...
hi hits, low hits, counter hits, guard crush strings (all leading to Akuma style damage) throws, tech throws,
and of course his signature move that's uniquely his:
Demon

The game is more than just a tech throw here and there after a constant barrage of attacks hoping to fool your opponent because they're smart enough to block. It's about sensing whether or not the flow of the match is in your hands or not, and making it so if it isn't.

You keep comparing Diego to this guy, but Diego's character selections demand a different play style from what you're expecting of N-Akuma.

Been a while since I've played, so my skill and "technique" are probably in the pits right now but hell I'll ride over to wherever you're at and own you if I feel the match is mine.

i agree 100 percent on all you just said here. i know all these things that you mentioned that nuki does, all them mixups. And before i talk, i mention again, nuk is a very very good player. Its just that when i see nuki play, compared to alot of other good players, and with my own experience..that when i see nuki plays ( offensivly ) he uses nothing more but skill, all the pokes and mixups, this is what im talking about, all he does to attack, evrything you see him do againt his oponents to crush them. i just feel like, he doesnt try to sense if the oponent is going to do this or that, but that he just uses his great skill to just try to destroy his oponents. and thats why i say that its the only thing he does wich is linear, and somebody who watchs nuki play alot and maybe face him, might be able to find a way to beat his akuma if he chosses the right character and does the right strategy. for evry thing there is a counter, and i think that if u find a counter to nukis gameplay, there is nothing he will be able to do about it because his gameplay is linear ( and im not saying it sucks, its very good ). breifly i think he just plays evry character the same way he knows how to play his akuma, and that might be bad.

and again , yes he has alot of skill, but evrything has a counter, and its easy to find a counter to somebody who has a linear play style,and until somebody finds it and faces it nukis akuma will always be dominating, but when he will find this person who will counter his playstyle, i just think their will be nothing he can do because he always play that same one way againts evry single character.

and when i compare him to daigo, i know daigo uses other types of characters that might use an other playstyle, but i just feel like when daigo plays, nomatter what types of tacktics u use he can do something about, not that he wins all the time but hes that good.

and if there is really really really no way to be none linear with akuma, then i personnaly will never use him in tournaments, unless if i get really really really skilled with his attacks, just like nuki is, but i still wont use because i will be sacrificing one thing for an other. A characters wich i think that can ahndle any situation, and that u dont have to have as much skill as nukis akuma, but just enough and enought of experienc with good players and characters, is Geese.

[Hellion]

i agree 100 percent on all you just said here.
...I don't see how, but ok.

i know all these things that you mentioned that nuki does, all them mixups...
...And before i talk, i mention again, nuk is a very very good player. Its just that when i see nuki play, compared to alot of other good players, and with my own experience..

..that when i see nuki plays ( offensivly ) he uses nothing more but skill, all the pokes and mixups, this is what im talking about, all he does to attack, evrything you see him do againt his oponents to crush them. i just feel like, he doesnt try to sense if the oponent is going to do this or that...

Man, he's limiting their options.
If he stops his unrelenting assault and leaves a gap for more than a 6/60th of a second (IIRC), the hair on the back of the necks of the caliber of folks he plays goes up because there's a gap in which throws (and hence tech throws) are possible, also possible is the chance to 2 frame jab / dp your way out of there, the safer of the two being the 2 frame jab, and all this for naught because this could be just the mere opening he needs to score his counter hit.

All this and more in a mere second or two.

You say based on your own experience and all, but you say the man should be doing things like fakes and stuff so he can throw. He *DOES* throw, he just doesn't do it often, but when he does it's when he's totally demolished the mindset of the person he's playin against.

You do that by convincing them that blockin is the only way to stay alive, and with Akuma the only way to do that is to continuously attack.
There are only so many ways to do that though and there are gaps in the pattern, but he knows what those gaps are, and quite possibly so do opponents of his caliber.
Thing is frame advantage and all that limit the windows of opportunity so much that mere mortals like myself can't keep up.


Otherwise he lands a demon setup or does 2 shorts into super.

[randomsuper]

please don't talk about geese........ just don't. you don't even understand how to talk about a character you supposedly know how to play, so maybe you should stay on topic. keep talking about your experience in the game, and what you think about nuki and his play style. give us some more insights into the inner workings of your mind and those hot strats. keep us entertained!

and you have to know that you're just being a douche bag at this point right? not only are you a scrub laughing stock joke, but you can't even fade away quietly like a good newb would. admit that you're wrong. you'll feel better about yourself.

[bodler]

please don't talk about geese........ just don't. you don't even understand how to talk about a character you supposedly know how to play, so maybe you should stay on topic. keep talking about your experience in the game, and what you think about nuki and his play style. give us some more insights into the inner workings of your mind and those hot strats. keep us entertained!

and you have to know that you're just being a douche bag at this point right? not only are you a scrub laughing stock joke, but you can't even fade away quietly like a good newb would. admit that you're wrong. you'll feel better about yourself.

only a douche bag would love to listen to a douche bag, only a scrub laughing joke would only listen to a scrub laughing joke. dint you hear what ur mama said, if u aint got something nice to say keep your filled with nakoruru shit mouth shut you fuckin randomhooker.:rofl:

[bodler]

...I don't see how, but ok.



Man, he's limiting their options.
If he stops his unrelenting assault and leaves a gap for more than a 6/60th of a second (IIRC), the hair on the back of the necks of the caliber of folks he plays goes up because there's a gap in which throws (and hence tech throws) are possible, also possible is the chance to 2 frame jab / dp your way out of there, the safer of the two being the 2 frame jab, and all this for naught because this could be just the mere opening he needs to score his counter hit.

All this and more in a mere second or two.

You say based on your own experience and all, but you say the man should be doing things like fakes and stuff so he can throw. He *DOES* throw, he just doesn't do it often, but when he does it's when he's totally demolished the mindset of the person he's playin against.

You do that by convincing them that blockin is the only way to stay alive, and with Akuma the only way to do that is to continuously attack.
There are only so many ways to do that though and there are gaps in the pattern, but he knows what those gaps are, and quite possibly so do opponents of his caliber.
Thing is frame advantage and all that limit the windows of opportunity so much that mere mortals like myself can't keep up.


Otherwise he lands a demon setup or does 2 shorts into super.

ok so your telling me now that nomatter what..an akuma has to play this one way even tho hes matched up againts an unusal character and etc to be effective or he wont really go nowhere?

[CMX]

only a douche bag would love to listen to a douche bag, only a scrub laughing joke would only listen to a scrub laughing joke. dint you hear what ur mama said, if u aint got something nice to say keep your filled with nakoruru shit mouth shut you fuckin randomhooker.:rofl:

weak. go play someone on the forums in person so i can get some humor out of it.

[randomsuper]

fondler, you're a little bitch who talks shit and won't back it up. put your money up or keep your mouth closed. i will drive to ft. myers and record the match, then put it up for everyone to see your allegedly great skill and upper level faggotry.

best of 3 for $100. so now you can either play a "scrub" and show everyone how good you are or you can shut the fuck up and just stay quiet for the rest of your life. so what's it gonna be fondler? you ready to put up or shut up? surprise me. :rofl:

[vkuwabara]

I didn't get the joke, what's a fondler?

[SNAAAAKE]

I didn't get the joke, what's a fondler?

people that "fondle". randomsuper is random like that :confused:

there wont be any money match. IF there is,bodler will get OCVed at least once..considering rick beats him more.

[bodler]

fondler, you're a little bitch who talks shit and won't back it up. put your money up or keep your mouth closed. i will drive to ft. myers and record the match, then put it up for everyone to see your allegedly great skill and upper level faggotry.

best of 3 for $100. so now you can either play a "scrub" and show everyone how good you are or you can shut the fuck up and just stay quiet for the rest of your life. so what's it gonna be fondler? you ready to put up or shut up? surprise me. :rofl:

loll, i dint know randomhookers could get so pissed for nothing. im a little bitch haha look at who is getting pissed for no reason at all. you is a bitch cos you wouldn even have the guts to create such a tread even if it was true.

if u wanna fight me just come to fort myers and play me forget about your little 100 dollars you poor peace of shit just beat out of 3s. LOL and i know your not gonna come, your just trying to sound all tough and gangsta hahahaha you crack me up i swear man :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: randomhooker lol i can find you on the street randonhooker :rofl:

[randomsuper]

well, i never talked about getting violent so save that shit for someone who cares. i'll take your money anytime. that's worth driving for. fighting or talking about fighting online is for e thugs and scrubs just like you. and from what i can tell by your lame response, i guess the answer is no to us getting a money match.

and i'm not pissed. i never was. even if i was harsh for you, that's too bad. welcome to the internet. welcome to srk. welcome to real life. i just wanna take your money. if you ever go to a tourney and want to play a match or two for money, please let me know. see me then and you can get the chance to prove you're as good as you say you are. unless of course you aren't willing to bet it?

[Radical Dreamer]

Great topic. :tup:

I mean seriously guys, Nuki's not that good, right?!

[bodler]

well, i never talked about getting violent so save that shit for someone who cares. i'll take your money anytime. that's worth driving for. fighting or talking about fighting online is for e thugs and scrubs just like you. and from what i can tell by your lame response, i guess the answer is no to us getting a money match.

and i'm not pissed. i never was. even if i was harsh for you, that's too bad. welcome to the internet. welcome to srk. welcome to real life. i just wanna take your money. if you ever go to a tourney and want to play a match or two for money, please let me know. see me then and you can get the chance to prove you're as good as you say you are. unless of course you aren't willing to bet it?

randomsuper..if im such a scrub that makes no sens, why would you wanna even play a scrub? and you say your not pissed, most of your posts are sounds mad and violent. welcome to srk and real life? what do you mean reali life...you mean real life as getting a money match or all the bullshit up in here..i dont see whats so major here. and this is all childish here..ooh out of nowhere u wanna play me for 100 dollars? whats 100 dollars gonna do? and even if u win or lose? whats that gonna do?in cvs2 at a certain level anything can happen and sometimes at a certain level even if this or that loses it doesnt mean their better all the time. its *still* a game man. and one of us is gonna win a 100 dollars wow whats that gonna do pay your retirement? this is all childish man i got better things to do in life then worry about some dude on srk ( WOOWW ) who wants to play me for 100 dollars man..if yall really wana see me play well wait till i record my matchs ill have some good players coming over my house ill record my stuff just for you randomsuper soo now ur life is gonna be a bit better to know how good i am ok?
this is all ridiculous

[ImperialSport]

randomsuper..if im such a scrub that makes no sens, why would you wanna even play a scrub?
In a final attempt for you to prove the worthiness of your tactic.

in cvs2 at a certain level anything can happen and sometimes at a certain level even if this or that loses it doesnt mean their better all the time.
With this statement you just dismissed your entire argument.

if yall really wana see me play well wait till i record my matchs ill have some good players coming over my house ill record my stuff just for you
Considering your last statement, why does this matter anymore?

this is all ridiculous
Only because you can't accept logical arguments to your claims. Instead you hide behind your unmeasurable statements.

[randomsuper]

whatever guy. i guess i'll just wait to see some of your vids then before i say anything else. though let me tell you something honestly about vids, and that's that they don't really show how good you are. they might show what you can do technically, but that's about it. i know for a fact that i'm way better than the few vids of me playing have made me out to be, and i think i proved that at evo east playing against some very decent people and winning a lot of the time. who are you going to be playing against?

[bodler]

i dont know right now im in fort myers and in fort myers theres not alot of competition, i wish i iwas in texas to film me playin in planet zero arcade ( they got mad players out there ) but right now the only player i can play is rick, ill ask him to bring people ( and please guys, i dont know from where you guys put out that rick is not good..he is really really good, and about him beating me, that was when i played him for the first time and that my techniques in cvs2 wasnt right, now we are even, we did a best out of 3 a few days ago and i won 3 out of 2, he is extremely good, i know because i play him often in my house ). if you guys judge rick due to some vids of anything of the sort, then you are all wrong, cos he must be way better then those vids, the same way random said he is way better then his vids. the same way im not saying nuki is bad, i know hes really good, but i just wanted clarify some thoughts that i had about his gameplay, maybe due to the fact that i dont use akuma very much.

[SNAAAAKE]

( and please guys, i dont know from where you guys put out that rick is not good..he is really really good, and about him beating me, that was when i played him for the first time and that my techniques in cvs2 wasnt right, now we are even, we did a best out of 3 a few days ago and i won 3 out of 2, he is extremely good, i know because i play him often in my house ). if you guys judge rick due to some vids of anything of the sort, then you are all wrong, cos he must be way better then those vids, the same way random said he is way better then his vids.


STOP IT ! :rofl: you are killing me over here :rofl:

like I said before, rick is average at best. not "extremly good". seriously just shut the fuck up and take a walk already. you are automatically considered a scrub if rick is beating you more. you have got to be the most retarded poster on SRK..unless you are just randomly trolling..you suck at that too.

[seasofcheese929]

we did a best out of 3 a few days ago and i won 3 out of 2

That's not even possible :sweat:

[bodler]

oh well you guys can talk crap on me all you its not like i care...even if i really was a scrub like you guys say..i still wouldnt care cos i got better things in life to do then convince some random people that im good at a damn game. i see both videos showing rick playing on youtube, he loses on both. but that doesnt show how really good he is..if thats what u guys are judging him on then ur truly mistaking, i should be the one telling you how good he is cos ive been playing him recently. and snaaake i know the reason why you talk like that is because uve beat him in an xbox live match that u randomly recorded that doesnt mean a thing man. and im the most retarded poster? look at all ur post on this tread you look like a 12 yeard old pissed of emo bitch. go suck on your mamas titties to get some milk to grow up fagget.

[SNAAAAKE]

:rofl::rofl:

"pissed off" about what..exactly ?? I dont think ANYONE is "pissed off" here. everyone is shitting on you and I am simply joining the bandwagon. YOU are the stupid emo bitch crying about random nothing. like I said, you are the most retarded poster on SRK. here is your new avater ! (http://www.imagehostplus.com/v2/usr/956/cvs2retard.jpg)

[seasofcheese929]

Bodler, I apologize for my earlier post accusing you of pissing everyone off. SNAAAAKE is right, everyone here is too busy laughing at you to be angry. And because of you, I'm no longer the scrubbiest poster on the CVS2 Akuma thread. Thanks! :rofl:

[bodler]

you think i care if evryone is laughing? honestly you guys are childish man. you make me think of my primary school stupid friends. like cvs2 and srk was the most important thing in life. this is why people like you guys dont go nowhere. if my presence makes you feel good about yourselves then let it be, this only proves you guys are losers wich only prides comes from playing a damn video game. i got better things to do then worry about some people laughing at me in a damn forum about a video a game lol

[SNAAAAKE]

this is not a forum about the "most important things in life" and people "not going nowhere". and no one gives a shit about where you "get your pride" from either. shut the fuck up and take a walk scrub. you are not welcome here.

[ImperialSport]

this is why people like you guys dont go nowhere.

I bet you'd be surprised how most SRK'ers are doing.

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

you think i care if evryone is laughing? honestly you guys are childish man. you make me think of my primary school stupid friends. like cvs2 and srk was the most important thing in life. this is why people like you guys dont go nowhere. if my presence makes you feel good about yourselves then let it be, this only proves you guys are losers wich only prides comes from playing a damn video game. i got better things to do then worry about some people laughing at me in a damn forum about a video a game lol
If you don't like it, little boy, then get out. I think you're just sad because you're the lifeless couch fungus that you make all of us out to be.

[bodler]

LOOLL, how pathetic..hate me all you want...lol...i love haters..im just laughing my ass out out here seriously

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

LOOLL, how pathetic..hate me all you want...lol...i love haters..im just laughing my ass out out here seriously
Well, that's one thing we have in common. ^_^

[scrubydan]

what's N groove? and who's nuki???

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

what's N groove? and who's nuki???
:rofl:

[Sage]

what's N groove? and who's nuki???

Some scrub flashmetroid owned. He wasn't that good :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[ramza]

who's nuki???

he's clearly no bchan:pray:

[bodler]

what's N groove? and who's nuki???

nuki is the man who created nokia telephone service

[vkuwabara]

Nuki is the last name of my uncle (R.I.P man)

[bodler]

what's N groove? and who's nuki???

you can see nuki here

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=43570814

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

you can see nuki here

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=43570814
omg thnx cuz u no he wuz tttlle nut srcstc! lol

[seasofcheese929]

::smoke clears:: ......Is it finally over?

[bodler]

the figh beetween goku ( me ) vs all the evil villains has finally ended!!

[ImperialSport]

Here's a song about Nuki!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UlBNVcrLpcs

[seasofcheese929]

the figh beetween goku ( me ) vs all the evil villains has finally ended!!

Wrong, sir! Wrong! Under section 37B of the contract signed by him, it states quite clearly that all offers shall become null and void if - and you can read it for yourself in this photostatic copy - "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses herein and herein contained," et cetera, et cetera...”Fax mentis incendium gloria cultum," et cetera, et cetera...”Memo bis punitor delicatum!" It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You stole fizzy lifting drinks. You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and sterilized, so you get nothing! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR! :annoy:

[bodler]

Wrong, sir! Wrong! Under section 37B of the contract signed by him, it states quite clearly that all offers shall become null and void if - and you can read it for yourself in this photostatic copy - "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses herein and herein contained," et cetera, et cetera...”Fax mentis incendium glori