Have Capcom Fighting Game Makers Heard Of Evo???

[HuStLeMaN17]

Just wondering if anybody here knows if the Capcom fighting game creators know just how big Evo is and if they ever attend the event???

[Corner-Trap]

Just wondering if anybody here knows if the Capcom fighting game creators know just how big Evo is and if they ever attend the event???

Didn't we just hold the finals of ST for evo west at a capcom booth in some convention?

[DevilJin 01]

Capcom put a 1,000 dollars of their own money into last year's Evo.

[koogy]

Capcom put a 1,000 dollars of their own money into last year's Evo.

half the development costs of cfj

[goodm0urning]

Didn't we just hold the finals of ST for evo west at a capcom booth in some convention?Daigo with a full parry... follows with a combo and wins!!!

[Sacr3D]

Capcom put a 1,000 dollars of their own money into last year's Evo.

1000$ ? Greedy bastards.

[Biolink]

Capcom put a 1,000 dollars of their own money into last year's Evo.

Cheap Bastards.

The average Marvel Money match is 5 times that amount

[DevilJin 01]

LOL. I was hoping I wasn't the only person who thought that was kinda cheap. Oh well...Capcom's gotta make dat money. Resident Evil is their new generation money maker.

[ultra_nYo]

Although it was cheap at least they did something which is better than the nothing they've done the past few years.

[NykkoMT]

Maybe they'll step their game up to $2000 come next years evo >_>

[hanz0]

ummm, i doubt they care, all they want to do is make teh moneys >_>.........

[ToyRobotTerror]

half the development costs of cfj
zing

[Rob2_0]

ummm, i doubt they care, all they want to do is make teh moneys >_>.........

yes
but that way ( putting money out to help gamers)
is a good way to keep a solid fan base( not that they dont already have one but more is always good). if capcom helps me pay my bills i would definitely buy some of their games if i was in their shoes thats at least what i would do
i would predict that if their sales in the us boost by even a little bit then they would put more money towards evo. but thats just a random prediction of mine ( it probably wont happen.)

[azis]

Have they ever heard about our anxiety on SF4? Do they know about how excited we get everytime some breaking news shows, like: "Capcom will make 3 huge announcements at TGS"? Do they read our prayers "SF4 plz!" in this and all over the world Fighting Game boards?

The world hungers for Street Fighter! Enough of underrated copies, enough of anime/miniskirt hentai fighting games! Bring on the real shit!

HEAR MY PRAYERS! READ THIS!!!!

And put more money on EVO, cheap ass...

[comoesa]

Face it capcom isnta fighting game company anymore their next gen.....


Even thought they have the huge possibility too make a killing in japan too release would cost alot and capcom has been burnee before and doenst want to take the risk with street fighter 4

[ToyRobotTerror]

Have they ever heard about our anxiety on SF4? Do they know about how excited we get everytime some breaking news shows, like: "Capcom will make 3 huge announcements at TGS"? Do they read our prayers "SF4 plz!" in this and all over the world Fighting Game boards?

The world hungers for Street Fighter! Enough of underrated copies, enough of anime/miniskirt hentai fighting games! Bring on the real shit!

HEAR MY PRAYERS! READ THIS!!!!

And put more money on EVO, cheap ass...
cant tgs be over so people ill slow down on the sf4 bullshit?

[Rob2_0]

Have they ever heard about our anxiety on SF4?


your anxiety fool, your anxiety.
"Capcom will make 3 huge announcements at TGS"? Do they read our prayers "SF4 plz!" in this and all over the world Fighting Game boards?


fuck that i wanna see a new ghouls and ghosts with online co-op



The world hungers for Street Fighter! Enough of underrated copies, enough of anime/miniskirt hentai fighting games! Bring on the real shit!

whatchu talkin bout im still satisfied with super turbo
i only got into 3rd strike cause it came with the anniversary collection
and anime miniskirt\ hentai fighting games are the shit
have you played melty blood or arcana hearts for that matter




And put more money on EVO, cheap ass...

i agree
but its a start.

[Lvl.3]

Just wondering if anybody here knows if the Capcom fighting game creators know just how big Evo is and if they ever attend the event???

He's asking about the creators, who happen to be from, live in JAPAN. Why are we bringing CAPCOM of AMERICA into this (they donated 1,000)?

I doubt the creators of SF know about Evo. Even if they did, only thing you would get from them, may be a little thank you message.

[Kyokuji]

I'm sure they know it exists. I doubt they care though.

[Mechanica]

The thought of how much money/effort they'd have to put into SF4 to satisfy us and how much money they'd make in return (nothing... less than nothing - they'd lose money) is just laughable.

[SuicidalGrandpa]

I'm sure they know it exists. I doubt they care though.

I was about to say something along these lines.

[Taiki]

it's not like Seth Killian works for Capcom or anything.

[_MJ_#R]

half the development costs of cfj


lul


;';';';'

[Insomniac487]

I'm pretty sure they know of it, but I don't think they know how BIG it is.. cause if they did, they would get the marvel license and make Marvel vs Capcom 3... cause we all know it's going to be a HOT seller. if they want a hella-good money maker game, Marvel vs Capcom 3 is the way to go. If it did came out... preorders would be sold out without a doubt since so many players want in on it. all the oldschoolers, current players, and newcomers would want to play this game plus its something people have been hoping for for the longest time... probably won't happen though.

[Darklightjg1]

I'm pretty sure they know of it, but I don't think they know how BIG it is.. cause if they did, they would get the marvel license and make Marvel vs Capcom 3... cause we all know it's going to be a HOT seller. if they want a hella-good money maker game, Marvel vs Capcom 3 is the way to go. If it did came out... preorders would be sold out without a doubt since so many players want in on it. all the oldschoolers, current players, and newcomers would want to play this game plus its something people have been hoping for for the longest time... probably won't happen though.


Shooooot, the fans will make MVC3 before Capcom does. We already know how change the music and make custom colors; all we need now is to figure out how to tweak the gameplay (you KNOW somebody will eventually) and it's in the bag.:lol:

Slap a MVC3 sticker on it and we're good to go. :tup:

...This thread is full of lulz btw.

[Uthred]

Just out of interest what kind of attendance figures does Evo draw? Because it would have to be pretty big to make it worth a game company's, in this case Capcom's, time to notice it. Even if every attendee was a guaranteed sale for a game (unlikely) I still dont think you'd be seeing even 5% of the return that Capcom makes on shitty games that get global releases. Its a question of scale really. Of course Evo may have a much higher attendance than I think and I could be just talking out my ass.

[azis]

According to ESA, Fighting Games represents 4.6% of units sold (2006).

http://www.theesa.com/archives/2007/07/2007_essential.php

Does they gave up on Fighting genre?

If they put some money, they could rise this number, it would, in return, give more profits in a exponential plot, by making games more popular again and dominating the market - they are the SF owners, for Christ sake! - but I don't have the numbers. For sure, there is always return.

1,000 dollars I could put on my own, it costs less than my Airplane tickets to EVO (BR-US, US-BR ~ US$ 1,200). The less they put, the less they are seen.

[Spirit Juice]

Capcom could care less. If it's not generating them assloads of cash, they don't give two shits about a very niche, likely dying genre in America.

[goodm0urning]

According to ESA, Fighting Games represents 4.6% of units sold (2006).

http://www.theesa.com/archives/2007/07/2007_essential.php

Does they gave up on Fighting genre?

If they put some money, they could rise this number, it would, in return, give more profits in a exponential plot, by making games more popular again and dominating the market - they are the SF owners, for Christ sake! - but I don't have the numbers. For sure, there is always return.

1,000 dollars I could put on my own, it costs less than my Airplane tickets to EVO (BR-US, US-BR ~ US$ 1,200). The less they put, the less they are seen.This is a good point, but it's a lot to risk. Any way you slice it, they won't be making a ton of money off of it like they did back in the glory days. Creating new games in an attempt to get the SF name back out there would be a pretty risky gamble, and entertainment companies tend not to take those big risks.

Hopefully, ST:HD will generate new interest, in a fairly low-risk way for Capcom. Then, only then, will we have a hope in hell of getting new Street Fighter.

[True Grave]

Enough of underrated copies, enough of anime/miniskirt hentai fighting games! Bring on the real shit!

Damn right!

and anime miniskirt\ hentai fighting games are the shit
have you played melty blood or arcana hearts for that matter

Both are teh suck

[nododgy]

Hopefully, ST:HD will generate new interest, in a fairly low-risk way for Capcom. Then, only then, will we have a hope in hell of getting new Street Fighter.

Exactly. Too many people consider fighters (2D especially) a dying/dead genre. MvC3, I think would have a broad enough appeal simply because of the super heroes, but I don't think SF4 has a chance in hell unless ST:HD does some damage.

[polarity]

man you guys are bitter

[The_Trigger]

Well, I guess we have a right to be. It sucks seeing something that we love so much go down in flames with nothing we can do to stop it. Personally, it just makes me cringe that when I finally get old enough to get out of my shitty town with zero comp and no machines (I finally saw my first 3S machine a month ago) I keep getting slapped in the face with the knowledge that the scene has no chance to survive.

And before anybody starts with the whole "Arcana Heart/Melty Blood/Guilty Gear is the future," I need to point out that not every arcade would be willing or able to get a machine in the first place. Not all cities/states are as open-minded as others, and I can hardly imagine any arcade in South Georgia carrying any sort of anime/loli/whatever fighter. I was born and raised there, so I figure I would know. And even though those games are gonna be available to play at home, they aren't for everybody and I know that unless they take off like a rocket, it's going to be hard to come by a copy. It's just like Fatal Fury Battle Archives and the Art of Fighting Anthology. I had to go to about forty different stores to find those two games. I know I'll have just the same type of problems with any kind of fighter that comes out these days, save for maybe Tekken and Soul Calibur, as they seem to get the most play from the general populace as far as fighters go.

But yeah, you're right. I am bitter...

[SuicidalGrandpa]

Oh well, I'll just play some of that HD Remix and hope that enough people buy it to give Capcom the motivation to just put out a Street Fighter 4. Even if it's not that great, I don't care.

[starkilled]

Yes they heard about it...cheap asses put in 1000, which is still good. That means they notice us. That could lead to way more.

[TS]

Shut the fuck up about SF4.

[pherai]

At the risk of sounding cliche, too many of you think "What can Capcom do to promote the fighting game scene" as opposed to "What can I do to promote the fighting game scene (and in turn, show Capcom there is money to be made in fighting games yet)". The lament of the dying fighting game scene is tired, and bitching online doesn't improve the situation. Get off your ass and do something, instead of making up figures about the potential of the fighting game scene. I'd think the market analysts at Capcom have a better idea of the profit potential of fighting games than enthusiasts looking through rose colored lenses.

[SSJGouKi]

you 20 people that love fighters need to move on already! Fighters are DEAD! Can't believe ppl here are still playing the same 20 year old games while everyone else has moved on! If anyone really wants to get into the competive scene the genre is FPS now or 1on1 FPS games now.

[goodm0urning]

you 20 people that love fighters need to move on already! Fighters are DEAD! Can't believe ppl here are still playing the same 20 year old games while everyone else has moved on! If anyone really wants to get into the competive scene the genre is FPS now or 1on1 FPS games now.If you're going to talk to me like that, it'll sound a lot more convincing with your lips on my dick.

[DevilJin 01]

Shut the fuck up about SF4.

Yeah...shhhh. 3rd Strike on ESPN. The future of fighting games.

[Mixah]

capcom has no glory anymore. oh well.

[Corner-Trap]

Yeah...shhhh. 3rd Strike on ESPN. The future of fighting games.

I wish.

[megafighter]

Capcom knows everything. They know about Evo, they know about SBO, they know about SRK, everything. Seth works for Capcom, Sirlin works with Capcom, Ray Jimenez from Capcom got interviewed by Bunkei, the guys at the BBS talk about fighting games all the time, and they are a company for gods sake. Of course they do their research.

Now, the Marvel license is probably costing a lot right now. And I mean a lot!

From a casual gamers perspective, 3S and ST are pieces of junk when compared to Resident Evil or whatever. There are characters from 1P games that have more moves than the ones at that game. SF games are very limited in what you can do from the start, and the boring ugly moves are hard to perform for the average gamer.

From a hardcore gamers perspective, every little tweak they do will make so many people hate the game is not even funny. When they change the smallest ST hitbox, everybody go crazy in hate. Imagine doing a SF4. Any change will be hated by the old schoolers, and the only way to make the game halfway decent for casuals is to add a lot of stuff. Maybe not but Capcom would have to make a bet here, a bet that they already lost with CFJ, when they tried to go simple and STish or whatever.

I admire how Sirlin, Ray Jimenez, Seth Killian and a bunch of people in or close to Capcom like to throw bones to the fighting game scene. However, in my honest opinion, making SF4 or MvC3 would be to throw a lot of money into the trash.

And Arcana Heart may be all fine and dandy for hardcore gamers, anime fans and pedophiles, but make no mistake. AH and its friends are no Resident Evil.

I wish I could believe in a thriving scene with lots of new and really popular games, but I dont. We can either have our niche scene with 3S, MvC2 and niche GG-like games, or simply give up. It makes me sad but thats how I see it.

[vapulus]

I'm pretty sure they know of it, but I don't think they know how BIG it is.. cause if they did, they would get the marvel license and make Marvel vs Capcom 3... cause we all know it's going to be a HOT seller. if they want a hella-good money maker game, Marvel vs Capcom 3 is the way to go. If it did came out... preorders would be sold out without a doubt since so many players want in on it. all the oldschoolers, current players, and newcomers would want to play this game plus its something people have been hoping for for the longest time... probably won't happen though.

If only you had any idea how wrong you were about this. Fighting games are so niche, that even a huge one in the states (which is still small in Japan and elsewhere) wouldn't make the slightest impact on Capcom's sales, when they have "modern and next gen" games selling in the millions right now. They'd dump millions of dollars into making MvC3, and all of the hardcore players would buy it immediately... and they'd still probably barely break even. Financially speaking, MvC2 was a flop, and so was 3S if I recall correctly. Just because a lot of people play it in "our world" doesn't mean it can compete with the sales of the braindead masses buying Dead Rising because it's got zombies in it. The only reason Capcom's taking a chance with Sengoku Basara X is because it's got a huge fanbase in Japan. The fanbase on the game will be pulling in a lot of non-fighting game fans... which is the only way to market fighting games, now.

As a sales demographic, we are completely dead.

[Phoenix Wright]

How was MvC2 a flop? Every copy that was made was sold.

[caleb1883]

How was MvC2 a flop? Every copy that was made was sold.

Because they didn't make very many copies, despite the fact they sold them all.

[arstal]

If the Marvel license costs so much, try DC. They're probably going to be cheaper given their difficulties right now- they aren't printing money, and it's untapped. I mean, who wouldn't want to see Sinestro, or Green Arrow rip Chun a new one?

They could have made more MvC2 copies, they just weren't allowed to at a reasonable price by Marvel.

What I think the future realistically is- is 3d fighters with online play- such as DOA if we're unlucky, and VF/Tekken/SC if we are lucky. Those games still sell well, and the online play gives it enough legs for casuals who won't go to tournies.

I think the dojin/anime stuff will survive in niche- but even SNK sees that they are going to have to go 3d at some point. I'm sure they don't want to- but bankruptcy sucks.

[azis]

If Marvel license cost so much, Capcom could make a Capcom vs Capcom. They own so many cool characters that it could result in a excellent game. The idea of Capcom Fighting All-Stars is excellent (the game weren't).

Either CVS2 or MVC Style for Capcom vs Capcom (both styles would be nice) can satisfy some hunger for a new Fighting Game, without the risk of some OG/Purists roar about hitboxes, parry, new outfit/hair, Sirlin's Castle in the background or whatever.

While playing to win, you must use everything you have in your hands, each instrument in the very diligent way. Capcom has its characters, besides a strong name and our fanatic loyalty (you bought CFJ, right? I did!), and EVO.

So, use all weapons is the way to go, instead of complaining that MVC2 numbers could be better (if they had produced more...), sit and cry will not help. Move to revive the FG scene, 4.6% of units sold for genre can turn to 8% very quickly. Oh yeah, I'm optimist.

[HuStLeMaN17]

If Marvel license cost so much, Capcom could make a Capcom vs Capcom. They own so many cool characters that it could result in a excellent game. The idea of Capcom Fighting All-Stars is excellent (the game weren't).

Either CVS2 or MVC Style for Capcom vs Capcom (both styles would be nice) can satisfy some hunger for a new Fighting Game, without the risk of some OG/Purists roar about hitboxes, parry, new outfit/hair, Sirlin's Castle in the background or whatever.

While playing to win, you must use everything you have in your hands, each instrument in the very diligent way. Capcom has its characters, besides a strong name and our fanatic loyalty (you bought CFJ, right? I did!), and EVO.

So, use all weapons is the way to go, instead of complaining that MVC2 numbers could be better (if they had produced more...), sit and cry will not help. Move to revive the FG scene, 4.6% of units sold for genre can turn to 8% very quickly. Oh yeah, I'm optimist.

Yup I agree with all that.

[Wellman]

If the Marvel license costs so much, try DC. They're probably going to be cheaper given their difficulties right now- they aren't printing money, and it's untapped. I mean, who wouldn't want to see Sinestro, or Green Arrow rip Chun a new one?



DC comics aren't doing Marvel numbers sales wise but they are under the Time Warner umbrella and add into the weight of the Batman and Superman properties, a DC fighting game could be just as expensive if not more so.

As far as Capcom practices go, I honestly think they try different things and depending on what sticks, they might continue or they might drop it. Probably the best bet for another 2D fighting game would be if everyone and their momma bought Basara X. Other than that, who knows when Capcom will get an inclination to make another fighting game. With rising development costs along with the money need to promote, it really is a gamble to put out a game for a niche market that expects as much as we fighting game fans do.

[pherai]

Why the hell do you need a super hero license for a good fighting game anyway?

[The_Trigger]

Why the hell do you need a super hero license for a good fighting game anyway?

You don't. It's the hope that the license would help push sales.

[Sarda]

If the goal is to push sales by using super heroes and famous stuff just go for the Famous People vs Capcom like: Beyoncé vs Chunli, J-Lo vs Ryu or George Clooney vs Blanka

HELL YEAH!

[ringopan]

put 2pac and biggie in mvc3 to add to the marvel wc vs ec drama.

[Radical Dreamer]

Samuel L. Jackson is top tier.

[YuuFone]

LOL. I was hoping I wasn't the only person who thought that was kinda cheap. Oh well...Capcom's gotta make dat money. Resident Evil is their new generation money maker.

yeah it is kinda cheap= =

$1000? it's a pretty small amount for a big company like Capcom to give out

but it's good at least they gave something~

[Spirit Juice]

If Marvel license cost so much, Capcom could make a Capcom vs Capcom. They own so many cool characters that it could result in a excellent game. The idea of Capcom Fighting All-Stars is excellent (the game weren't).

Either CVS2 or MVC Style for Capcom vs Capcom (both styles would be nice) can satisfy some hunger for a new Fighting Game, without the risk of some OG/Purists roar about hitboxes, parry, new outfit/hair, Sirlin's Castle in the background or whatever.

While playing to win, you must use everything you have in your hands, each instrument in the very diligent way. Capcom has its characters, besides a strong name and our fanatic loyalty (you bought CFJ, right? I did!), and EVO.

So, use all weapons is the way to go, instead of complaining that MVC2 numbers could be better (if they had produced more...), sit and cry will not help. Move to revive the FG scene, 4.6% of units sold for genre can turn to 8% very quickly. Oh yeah, I'm optimist.

They probably would've made a good amount of money if they went through with Sammy vs. Capcom, but rumor mill has it that they didn't like what Sammy/ASW was going to do with their characters so the project was axed.