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Bomberman3000
09-23-2007, 04:20 PM
Was on my friends PS3 playing DR online. While lag was one heck of a bother (besides trying to constantly connect to rooms only for it to be dropped), there is this one little irk I'm sure MOST of you in here probably have:

Losers.

Here's the question:

HOW MANY IF YOU who have played in a host's room have DEFEATED the host and subsequently been kicked from the room by the host as a result. I have seen this happen TOO MANY TIMES and have experienced this too damn much. Even my friend who owns the PS3 says it happens to him often when he beats the host in his room.

I'm talking beat the host once or twice and then they kick for no reason other than they being losers. Hell, there was this one Anna player who had host, and had a pretty godo winstreak (about 7 wins) up until this AWESOME Panda player came in and PWNED the mess out of the person. After match, saw the message "Game host is changing settings" and saw the winner get booted from the room.

Really really stupid.

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Had to vent. Anyone else want to share?

Kusanagi02
09-23-2007, 04:56 PM
yeah that shit happens all the time.

I'm figuring people are trying to keep there rank high so they don't want to keep losing to the same person hence why they kick people out the room.

Bomberman3000
09-23-2007, 05:59 PM
I just heard more about the ranking issue, and overall, it's damn sloppy.

I mean, to keep this kind of shit from happening (a LOT), they need to make it to where your rank would NOT go down if you went on a losing streak. Saw some people who were complete beasts, yet their rank made them look like newbs to an extent (more or less >_>). So what if someone loses a few? Just suck it up and keep on playing the guy!

Too many pussies online that whine about ranking. Like it's gonna make anyone's e-penis grow any bigger.

Kusanagi02
09-23-2007, 07:09 PM
yeah as it stands i'm a 1st Dan and at 62-61. I was at 2nd Dan but i went on a big time losing streak and dropped down a rank.

I will admit the ranking is pretty sloppy.

X20ASTRIKEFREEDOM
09-23-2007, 11:54 PM
It's never happened to me before and i'm 85-29 5th Dan.

dbostick
09-24-2007, 12:16 AM
Just make your own room and you won't have that problem. Besides, too many people make 5-8 people rooms and I like to only have 3 player rooms.

KoriShenlong
09-30-2007, 02:17 AM
Ok I just had this and find it to be far more irritating. Someone kicking you because you beat the crap out of them is one thing, but the classic disconnecting right before they lose is absolutely irritating.

Matt K.
09-30-2007, 03:33 PM
Was on my friends PS3 playing DR online. While lag was one heck of a bother (besides trying to constantly connect to rooms only for it to be dropped), there is this one little irk I'm sure MOST of you in here probably have:

Losers.

Here's the question:

HOW MANY IF YOU who have played in a host's room have DEFEATED the host and subsequently been kicked from the room by the host as a result. I have seen this happen TOO MANY TIMES and have experienced this too damn much. Even my friend who owns the PS3 says it happens to him often when he beats the host in his room.

I'm talking beat the host once or twice and then they kick for no reason other than they being losers. Hell, there was this one Anna player who had host, and had a pretty godo winstreak (about 7 wins) up until this AWESOME Panda player came in and PWNED the mess out of the person. After match, saw the message "Game host is changing settings" and saw the winner get booted from the room.

Really really stupid.

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Had to vent. Anyone else want to share?

This sort of practice happens in every online game. Over the years, I have seen the practice of kicking "the best in server" in Quakeworld, Unreal Tournament (and 200X), Counter-Strike, Quake 3, etc... In Warcraft 3 there was a disconnect glitch/exploit that would reset or lock up the game so the opponent wouldn't record the loss.

The Tekken community is large, and I am sure that everyone who has a PS3 also has DRO. Hook up with some of the people here or at TZ for private games, and do not let the stat-padders ruin your game.

KoriShenlong
09-30-2007, 04:40 PM
Well let's do that then. I'll play host since I could care less about my ratio (I'm surprised it's still above 50%) so if someone's interested, PM me and I'll send out invites for a four player room.

B.L. Pancho
09-30-2007, 05:00 PM
I believe Arario, Slips and other players are trying to set up a blacklist over at Tekken Zaibatsu, so serious players can be aware of any players who are either abusing shitty tactics or are doing stuff like kicking out or booting people or dropping games etc.

I reccomend going there and checking out some names, and otherwise using that and the other online threads over at TZ to keep yourself playing with some more level headed and experienced players.

Kusanagi02
09-30-2007, 07:36 PM
I believe Arario, Slips and other players are trying to set up a blacklist over at Tekken Zaibatsu, so serious players can be aware of any players who are either abusing shitty tactics or are doing stuff like kicking out or booting people or dropping games etc.

I reccomend going there and checking out some names, and otherwise using that and the other online threads over at TZ to keep yourself playing with some more level headed and experienced players.

yeah reading that thread over at TekkenZaibatsu just shows me how elitist those guys are over their and it made my head hurt with all the pointless arguments to boot.

I mean Lord forbid if someone doesn't know all the tech traps and such with the game. They make it seem as though if you suck at the game and resort to some of the basic moves,you're a scrub.

Disciple of Ryu
09-30-2007, 09:27 PM
Don't you still get the win if someone disconnets?

dbostick
09-30-2007, 11:37 PM
yeah reading that thread over at TekkenZaibatsu just shows me how elitist those guys are over their and it made my head hurt with all the pointless arguments to boot.

I mean Lord forbid if someone doesn't know all the tech traps and such with the game. They make it seem as though if you suck at the game and resort to some of the basic moves,you're a scrub.

Yeah, I'm far from good at this game and those people make me want to repent for my cartwheeling sinful ways...

Kusanagi02
10-01-2007, 12:57 AM
Yeah, I'm far from good at this game and those people make me want to repent for my cartwheeling sinful ways...

yeah after seeing that they don't like the being beat by Lili doing the cartwheel, i actually had to count the number of times i've won using that move.

Either way since being stuck in the 2nd Dan limbo i figured i need to practice up more with Steve.

Matt K.
10-01-2007, 05:29 AM
I believe Arario, Slips and other players are trying to set up a blacklist over at Tekken Zaibatsu, so serious players can be aware of any players who are either abusing shitty tactics or are doing stuff like kicking out or booting people or dropping games etc.

Blacklists are dangerous. Someone could get blacklisted for no other reason that beating one of the TZ people, only to have the TZ person get pissed and put them on the blacklist. That is not to say that you should not keep a personal note of people that you do not want to play against. To make a community Blacklist will only stagnate the community.

I mean Lord forbid if someone doesn't know all the tech traps and such with the game. They make it seem as though if you suck at the game and resort to some of the basic moves,you're a scrub.

The Sirlin argument of "Play to Win" has been beat to death on these boards, but is a highly appropriate response here. Use whatever "Tournament Legal" move you can to win a match. Skill does not mean using more "skill moves" or "tech traps," but whether you can use your arsenal of moves to execute and win. People who complain about being beat by "simple moves" are often the scrubs. Scrubdom is the mother of Elitism.

Before people start to whine, "Online is much different than offline play... lag, glitches, red/yellow/green connection." Yes. DRO, and any other online fighter needs to be approached differently than offline play. Online play is different, and much like Offline tournaments it will take time to develop a list of "Online Tournament Legal Moves." To limit ourselves early on with "Blacklists" and "Proper (Elitist) Etiquette" will slow this process down.

Sideshow20
10-17-2007, 06:29 AM
i pretty much gave up on the whole ranking thing in fighting games anymore.

Ephidel
12-09-2007, 01:42 AM
Bumpage.

Yeah, I'm noticing that a lot and I just got the game lol. That's why I fucking host now, losers can't bear with the fact of a loss. But it's funny how they keep the lesser opponents around just to boost their win percentage :/

Even funnier how they send messages to lower opponents to join their room, like this guy did to me today. Had built 6 wins on me, but then I trained Asuka and owned him the next time around - and I got kicked. Fucking lol.

ChronicDynasty
12-09-2007, 07:47 AM
Bumpage.

Yeah, I'm noticing that a lot and I just got the game lol. That's why I fucking host now, losers can't bear with the fact of a loss. But it's funny how they keep the lesser opponents around just to boost their win percentage :/

Even funnier how they send messages to lower opponents to join their room, like this guy did to me today. Had built 6 wins on me, but then I trained Asuka and owned him the next time around - and I got kicked. Fucking lol.


THEY care about rank so much they boot the winner lame eh and also most people use the button bashing charcters which are top tier in my mind online on this game
i hope tekken 6 has good online play. tekken 5 is a mess online soo much delay no point playing

TheRedCyclone
12-09-2007, 01:32 PM
recently i've had pretty good connections and i haven't been booted for winning in awhile. although i hate getting booted when you're next in line after u've just joined the room and watched however many matches. that one annoys me.

KoriShenlong
12-09-2007, 02:16 PM
I've noticed that once you start hitting upper Dan levels, they stop being whiny little girls. The people who kick for the sake of ranking usually don't get that high for a while.

vpt_whatup
12-09-2007, 03:55 PM
Even funnier how they send messages to lower opponents to join their room, like this guy did to me today. Had built 6 wins on me, but then I trained Asuka and owned him the next time around - and I got kicked. Fucking lol.Yeah the whole system is pretty much a mess with people playing for the wrong reasons. Whenever somebody invites me because they think they got a free win I quit immediately after I beat them so they are left thinking "I can easily beat that guy, just let me get one more chance." But they never get it. Hopefully it deters them or changes their attitude.

Stuckey
12-09-2007, 10:26 PM
DR Online is wack like Mike Tyson's drug problem. Everyone i've lost to on there couldn't beat me if their lives depended on it if it weren't for lag. I'm fed up with online fighting games in general because of DR.

Son Them All
12-10-2007, 06:31 AM
DR Online is wack like Mike Tyson's drug problem. Everyone i've lost to on there couldn't beat me if their lives depended on it if it weren't for lag. I'm fed up with online fighting games in general because of DR.

THANK YOU. Just change DR Online to Lili flips a lot 07'. Hell Even Lee's d+4, 4, 4, 4 can be down right impossible to completely block (even tho I've known how since Tekken 2) with enough lag. Hell I'm a Master now and people at that level still use an assload of tricks. Namco needs to step their server game up goddamit....I got a damn good cable modem hard wired to my ps3 so I should have a much better connection.

But shit, I agree sooooo much. I can't help but laugh half of the time when I lose to lag tactics. I'm just sittin there in disgust like "God, I could triple perfect your bitch ass and yet you probably think you're hot shit for doing that". I think I may just stick to offline like the game is supposed to be played lol.

DevilJin 01
12-10-2007, 06:53 AM
Online fighting games shouldn't have rankings.

Critical King
12-10-2007, 03:48 PM
LISTEN UP EVERYONE YOU ARE ALL LAGGING CAUSE YOUR NAT IS TYPE 3 GO TEST YOUR CONNECTION AND LOOK WHAT YOUR NAT IS
TYPE 2 LETS YOU COMMUNICATE AND VIDEO CHAT
TYPE 1 LETS YOU PLAY WITH OUT LAGGING OR LAGGING OUT

sorry caps lol
i just forwared my ports and for the first time ever the game was running fast online :rofl:

Ephidel
12-10-2007, 03:58 PM
Online fighting games shouldn't have rankings.

Truth.

Son Them All
12-10-2007, 04:33 PM
Ode to Lili Abusers
....BITCH
stop doin all that flippin and shit
tired of all them tricks...
you hoe I'ma come kill you
IN REAL LIFE


that is all....

Cable1096
12-10-2007, 07:10 PM
Nat Type 1 doesn't make it so you don't lag. Games online will always have lag dude. You're playing with someone miles and miles away. If you are playing Tekken and you "aren't lagging AT ALL', then you probably haven't played in any competitions and seen the difference. Anyway, not an insult, just letting you know it will always lag and it's just the nature of the beast. But if anyone wants to play some a lot less laggy matches, then add me.

Critical King
12-11-2007, 04:48 AM
Nat Type 1 doesn't make it so you don't lag. Games online will always have lag dude. You're playing with someone miles and miles away. If you are playing Tekken and you "aren't lagging AT ALL', then you probably haven't played in any competitions and seen the difference. Anyway, not an insult, just letting you know it will always lag and it's just the nature of the beast. But if anyone wants to play some a lot less laggy matches, then add me.

i play tekken offline all the time in my local arcade i just said there would be less lag with type 1 cause type 3 nat can cause major problems on the ps3 network

Tomahawk
12-13-2007, 12:35 AM
And how pre tell can i switch to NAT 1 I have been looking around. Ive fallen online due to lili and grabing marduc with tudo all day. Impossible to break especially when there is heavy lag.:annoy:

TheRedCyclone
12-17-2007, 10:39 AM
well i finally made it to Lonewolf, but u barely get any points for beating ppl lower than u. and u lose a ton of points when u lose to someone lower. sooo i prolly won't stay up there for long.

Son Them All
12-17-2007, 01:25 PM
And how pre tell can i switch to NAT 1 I have been looking around. Ive fallen online due to lili and grabing marduc with tudo all day. Impossible to break especially when there is heavy lag.:annoy:

Well I have the answer for that Lili garbage now. Wait for her do her kicks where her back is turned. You have SLIGHT frame advantage. Do a quick (10 frame max) punisher (I play Eddy so I use b3, 3) such as Feng's b+12. Eventually they'll get the message, and if they don't? Well then free win.

izanagisama
12-17-2007, 03:12 PM
And how pre tell can i switch to NAT 1 I have been looking around. Ive fallen online due to lili and grabing marduc with tudo all day. Impossible to break especially when there is heavy lag.:annoy:

Making sure you have the proper ports forwarded on your router is a good place to start. I did it about a week or so into playing DR:O and saw a noticeable difference. Some say using a wireless or wired connection matters too; I keep mine wired to the router since it's only a couple feet away from the console so I can't attest to that.

Humbag
12-17-2007, 05:29 PM
Online fighting games shouldn't have rankings.

Truth

Cable1096
12-17-2007, 05:52 PM
Yep, use Eddy's b3, 3 ftw against Lili. It's funny as hell when people start doing that and I just b3, 3 every time. They still keep doing it anyway, haha.

Ephidel
12-17-2007, 06:08 PM
Lag wasn't that bad for me today, although I only did like 7 games. It definitely decides to act up on its own...

Son Them All
12-17-2007, 07:39 PM
Yep, use Eddy's b3, 3 ftw against Lili. It's funny as hell when people start doing that and I just b3, 3 every time. They still keep doing it anyway, haha.

That's hot. :rofl::rofl:

*cheers to fellow Eddy player*

KoriShenlong
12-17-2007, 07:43 PM
Ya know, I just sidestep when a Lili starts doing their combo. For some reason, they just keep going. I poked one to death from the side in a match and they left.

ZeonTheUnborn
12-19-2007, 12:16 PM
Well I have the answer for that Lili garbage now. Wait for her do her kicks where her back is turned. You have SLIGHT frame advantage. Do a quick (10 frame max) punisher (I play Eddy so I use b3, 3) such as Feng's b+12. Eventually they'll get the message, and if they don't? Well then free win.

Feng's b+12 is a great way to start the match off anyway. And when I fought some feng players, they never make use of his uf+4 juggle. Nor his qcf+3 juggle(of course I get smacked up doing that X_X). All the players I played just like doing that freaking sweep and tryin ta stomp me to death. And as far as the rankings go...I think they should do it like GunZ.

heres how it should go, it'll be a big room where people can set up smaller rooms. And the room your thrown into depends on your rank. I.E.

Beginner - 1st Kyu

1st Dan - 7th Dan

Shihan - Beserker

Sage - Divine fist

That what all that stupid crap can be avoided.

izanagisama
12-19-2007, 08:40 PM
And when I fought some feng players, they never make use of his uf+4 juggle. Nor his qcf+3 juggle(of course I get smacked up doing that X_X).
Those are my favorite juggle starters with Feng, ws 2 is really inconsistent and kinda hard to hit with anyway and df+3(?the kick that flips them backwards) is too difficult follow up if there's any lag. I can usually connect his ws/qcf+3 after a successful d+2, for some reason people seem to like to jab after the d+2 connects.

Julia is usually who I fight flip-happy Lili's with, her d,df+1,2 is great to punish when she turns her back.

Ephidel
12-20-2007, 03:30 AM
Gah I hate it when like it can be running smoothly from like two people in the room, then you face another player only to have it lag on THAT same player. Breaks up my winning streaks grrrrrrr....

Canto
12-20-2007, 04:51 AM
T5 DR is not exactly what I expected it to be. I knew there would be lag but even with very fast internet there is still bothersome lag and people are very cheap. Last week someone beat me while they were playing with paul and the just kept doing his somersault move and I couldn't do shit. Very annoying.
I've seen people kick me for beating them and i've seen a couple disconnect when they lose, it's sad. I make my own room most of the time cause I have pretty fast internet and the lag isn't that bad so there's only about 0.5 sec delay.
I use King and never use shitty tactics. Once there was someone who wasn't at their ps3, I just stood there until they attacked me and then started the fight. I don't give a crap about rank and the problem is that everybody else does.

@ Critical King

As long as you have NAT 2 you should have no problems. Nat 3 is the one to worry about. Nat 2 is where all the ports are open and everything is breathing fine and you can see incoming connections while NAT 1 is where you are sending out connections as well. As long as you're receiving connections then you should not have any problems. Thats what I was told.

Ephidel
12-30-2007, 03:28 PM
Blah I mounted a winning streak and got booted today :rofl: well at least I got the last laugh.

Darkbeat
12-30-2007, 08:28 PM
Yeah, I'm far from good at this game and those people make me want to repent for my cartwheeling sinful ways...

Well you cant go around playing games for FUN you know! :lol:

Shin Sheng Long
01-01-2008, 12:01 PM
Wow, are you serious? According to Tekken Zaibatsu I'm not supposed to throw, do lows, 10 strings or select stages? And then run away and dance around when lag hits me? Why don't I just get a headset and tell you exactly what I'm gonna do (b+4, d+3+4, 2, 2, d+1, 2, 4, d/f 3+4, etc.). Oh wait, usually I'll miss my juggle due to latency.
Gimme a break! This is like the old school days of SFII, where throwing was "banned" in certain arcades and you got mugged for it if you didn't comply!
I somehow doubt it's the Tekken tournament-worthy players that write this stuff. Lag sucks, but turning matches into alternating mid/high attack strings is boring.

Bomberman3000
01-02-2008, 02:45 PM
Heh, it's still goin on, who would've thunk.

Haven't had the chance to play online in DR recently (on a friends PS3, no less), but good grief, even a tiny bit of lag when one is on a roll will ruin people.

Namco needs better servers or something. Or have they forgotten?

dbostick
01-02-2008, 04:55 PM
DR is probably the worst fighting game I've ever played online, 90% of the time. It rivals even playing any fighter on Kaillera with someone with 200+ ping. There are a few rare occasions where I play someone without yellow or black lining it, but still...

Sorry, but West Wonderland on Excellent setting and GGPO have spoiled me half to death. The only worthwhile games that have seemingly worked the best on the PSN have been FPSs like Resistance, U3 or CoD4 (most of the time for CoD4).

Captain Ryu
01-03-2008, 08:04 AM
DR is probably the worst fighting game I've ever played online, 90% of the time. It rivals even playing any fighter on Kaillera with someone with 200+ ping. There are a few rare occasions where I play someone without yellow or black lining it, but still...

Sorry, but West Wonderland on Excellent setting and GGPO have spoiled me half to death. The only worthwhile games that have seemingly worked the best on the PSN have been FPSs like Resistance, U3 or CoD4 (most of the time for CoD4).

I have to agree that the lag is bad in this game. The thing that fucks you up most is how inconsistent connections are. The input delay constantly changes randomly throughout matches along with random lag spikes. That type of shit usually only happens in online fighters when you have rats chewing on your ethernet cable. Sure other games have lag but at least they're consistent for the most part. I don't think they really put any effort into the online mode in this game which is disappointing.

Also the matchmaking is horrible for some reason. I have to refresh like 5 times before I get a decent amount of rooms to choose from. On top of that I randomly get disconnected half the time I join a match. That shit is really fucking annoying.

Not is all bad though. I've ran into a few players where the lag is almost unnoticeable which is nice. I just wish it was more consistent. Funny thing is I'll get an awesome connection with someone but then next time I play the same guy and it will lag. I really don't understand this shit.

I was checking out tekken zaibatsu earlier and notice people not using throws to keep the game fun cause the lag is so bad. Why even play in conditions like that? It's not even fun.

torn
01-04-2008, 11:46 PM
I rarely play it now because it screws up my timing offline so much that I can't even hit easy juggles. Lag tactics...meh...and no throwing rule from TZ? Haha, I see their point since throw breaks get tough online (I mean I've even hated how it throws off my low parrying) but I just got annoyed with all the people using lag tactics so I started throwing...a lot. It is nice when you do meet some good people...I've spent quite some time up late because I ran into good players and didn't want to leave.

Son Them All
01-05-2008, 02:25 AM
I'm finding that knowing and using Eddy is a lifesaver most of the time in lag situations. Usually a character has a move that will be better under lag but Eddy....well he's downright scary in lag. Why? Because I can hit all of his juggles regardless of the connection. All Eddy's shit is okezime and that owns people for free.

I seem to have problems with Nina and Asuka (Ephidal I'm lookin at you) still...but I can generally beast on the level I'm currently at regardless. I need to play this game more but it fucks with me offline (it makes me forget my offline strategies, because none of that applies online) but maybe I can just strike a balance.

I know once a tournament is near tho....I ain't goin near DR online for at least a week before.

Ephidel
01-05-2008, 03:11 AM
Ah man that eddy is a beast, I dunno where to block then I panic and throw out anything costing me many matches. Sigh, I need more practice also - but gg's though :smile:

VR-Fist
01-05-2008, 06:08 AM
Ephidel, just d+4 him out of the relax-stance with most of characters. Then capos might stop relaxing so much so you can play a decent game. The key is to annoy the Eddy player :lol:

Son Them All
01-05-2008, 01:51 PM
Ephidel, just d+4 him out of the relax-stance with most of characters. Then capos might stop relaxing so much so you can play a decent game. The key is to annoy the Eddy player :lol:

Oh there are other ways good sir....other ways.... And plus my Eddy has the giant fro w/ the ray bands so he wins on sexy factor alone. :wonder:

evilj
01-05-2008, 02:14 PM
I rarely play it now because it screws up my timing offline so much that I can't even hit easy juggles. Lag tactics...meh...and no throwing rule from TZ? Haha, I see their point since throw breaks get tough online (I mean I've even hated how it throws off my low parrying) but I just got annoyed with all the people using lag tactics so I started throwing...a lot. It is nice when you do meet some good people...I've spent quite some time up late because I ran into good players and didn't want to leave.

Yeah who cares just throw them, when they try to throw you back, just duck, or just fuzzy duck in the future, and that will condition them to use mids instead of throws which you can just block.

Son Them All
01-06-2008, 02:20 AM
lmfao speaking of "to throw or not to throw" I just got this message from FEARLESSFLAMINGO, and I'm copying it verbatim for effect.

From FEARLESSFLAMINGO
Subject full of BULLSHIT

fucking grabbing with black bars to reposition. fuckin back up when the bars are black bitch or don't fuckin grab. weakass eddy


.........:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Ephidel
01-06-2008, 02:25 AM
Oh they mad cuz you be stylin on them.

Son Them All
01-06-2008, 03:29 AM
Well apparently they're saying over at Zaibatsu that you really SHOULDN'T do throws unless you're in green bars, because they can't be broken on reaction. Meh I've broken throws with a red bar before. People need to stop bitching so much. There ARE lag abusers, such as blatant Lili spammers, but they can simply be kicked....no need for bitchy messages lol. Wow, that made my night tho. Now he's claimin he plays tournies and shit and that I'm super scrubby....so I told him I'd kill his ass offline as well and that he should quit his bitching.

KoriShenlong
01-06-2008, 01:33 PM
You should make friends with him so you can invite him repeatedly and rape his face.

I think that this whole gentleman's rule is really a girly way to complain about their abilities. It has good intentions, but if someone's out there just using throws (and boy are there), a good player should be able to see right through that and devise a tactic to avoid it, even with the lag. I guess as players, we have to accept that online fighting games will always have lag and have to learn to adapt.

Son Them All
01-06-2008, 03:58 PM
Exactly! And usually if I know the person won't do shit, I run up + throw. You best believe if I saw that coming on me against my Eddy niggas would get a uf 3+4 to the face every time. There are ways around gettin thrown.

torn
01-06-2008, 06:24 PM
Well also most people don't diversify their throws and after the first or second throw you realize they are doing the regular throws, I just start mashing 1 or 2...the two button throws are a killer though...

I however love low abusers...Asuka+low parry=1+2 into 1,4 into 1,2,3 combo (Or was it four?)...Asuka players are blatant about this with her one low sweep (Forgot the notation but it can be done 3 times in a row). All of the ones I meet do it more than once so it makes for fun times.

Bomberman3000
01-08-2008, 12:07 AM
Good grief, it's gotten so bad now that people gripe if one uses a throw when there is lag?

Face it: While online fighting games CAN be done right, Namco dun slopped this together. OK enough enough enough been repeated too many times, lol.

Maybe they should put T6 on PC or somethin'. Have people run their own servers and everyone beat the balls off each other.

BaSiK_TeKniK
02-18-2008, 11:27 AM
Question: how are the Nina players online?

Son Them All
02-18-2008, 12:48 PM
Question: how are the Nina players online?

Extremely annoying and what I can only describe as "twitchy", I hate them.

BaSiK_TeKniK
02-19-2008, 06:54 PM
Extremely annoying and what I can only describe as "twitchy", I hate them.

:wgrin:

Stargalaqtic
02-22-2008, 12:00 PM
Question: how are the Nina players online?

I have run into 2 good ones, and the twitchy thing the one guy is talking about is just how Nina moves and combos. It looks twitchy, but they are just canceling moves to throw you off.

Thatman_Blaze
04-10-2008, 07:11 AM
the olny problem with throws online is the fact that they can not be broken on reaction when timing of the imput is so critical so AUTOMATICALLY it hampers that ability. I play online also and get annoyed when people throw you 4 times in 1 round. you know as well as i do that if i were to throw you under lag you would not break it. and all of you who say you can break throws successfully under red bars...there are certain characters out there with certain throws who can end that little thought of yours. its not that you are not allowed to throw, its just that its much more competitive and fun if you dont have to go to the easy damage...

all of you who dont care about the throwing know what you are doing when you do it...inside your head its just a desperation move typically unless its a set up and all seasoned players can tell you if you used it from a set up or just to get the damage because you knew they couldnt break it...same as the lily spammer's they do it JUST because it cant fairly be blocked exactly as it is offline... its just common courtesy not to throw when there is TOO much lag. im not saying dont throw, just use common coutresy and your experience will increase. ALL respectable players (tourney players and top players period) use these aspects when they are online...

have fun but dont kill it for everyone else

DXN
04-13-2008, 05:49 PM
well im a king user...so i do throw alot.....but only with him with the other characters that i use i rarely do it jus a habit i guess.....

psn =dxniel

if you've played me what u think of my game with king?

orinn
05-13-2008, 03:40 AM
sometimes i'm kicked even before fighting...

Mister Rude
05-20-2008, 10:16 AM
I've kicked people when I'm the host when they've beaten me strickly on the point that they have a horrible connection and it's unfair for anyone in the room to fight the individual and they are using someone like Lili who can spam the same move and be unstoppable simply on the lag.

And just last night beat some guys in a room all the way up a 5 game win streak. I lost came back and won, and the guy kicked me.

Sonickun
05-21-2008, 04:24 PM
sometimes they kick you cuz youre to good and their trying to rank up, if youre too good they dont want to risk a loss so they boot you.

and well you cant take it easy on anyone, just cuz their like a 9th kyu dosent mean they suck, last night i playe a 1st dan (i was a 7 dan well now im a 5th dan)and took it easy on him and used mokojin he beat me badly then i looked at his profile ..dude had 120 w 2 L 94.4% 7 Disconects

he was a ranking whore

KomboKaze
05-26-2008, 12:26 PM
the guy "BLUNTSMOKERSONLY" disconnects when I rape him with Marduk

Orochi Bulldog
06-05-2008, 11:58 PM
man i suck now i think i won like 4 mathes since ive been back

ParaParaKoala
06-10-2008, 10:09 AM
I have a problem with Tekken DR online. You see, the lag. For some reason, it only ever hits me. The other player seems to do fine and pull ten hit combos off on my ass, and because I pressed X ten seconds ago, I can't block them. Thus, I lose, and I fear I may be ruining my boyfriend's reputation as a DR player (since he got me DR through a downloading loophole and now my gamertag on DR online is actually his gamertag, but he never plays online).

Um, HELP?

ParaParaKoala
06-10-2008, 11:58 PM
Ah, nevermind. I stopped running into people who have horrible connections and play Bryan/Lili/Paul.

Damn. They are brokeshit on lag.

The Game mario316
06-11-2008, 01:03 PM
I get the opposite LOL.

Host boots everyone in the room to play me and I repeatedly kicked his ass till I got tired. Then he beat me once and kicked me.

Lobelia Mk. IV
06-11-2008, 01:14 PM
Online fighting games shouldn't have rankings.

I agree with this.
For the most part, online fighting games are just a matter of which character can overcome lag the best. It even happens in non-fighters like Brawl. If there were leaderboards for that shit it'd be full of fucking Ike players.
God.
I fucking hate online Ike scrubs. No ill will to people who actually play Ike well.

Atomic Moth
06-14-2008, 11:36 AM
Whenever I pick the first option in the online mode (quick match i think), it will find someone, but if I lose, it automatically disconnects after the match. Even if I hit rematch.

It doesn't mar my disconnect record, but it is annoying to have to go through the process again to fight the same person.

Is this my connection that is doing it? When someone doesn't want a rematch does it send you back to the main screen at the beginning?

I'm not really sure what's going on.

And any TX area players should add me

CONEBEAST187
06-20-2008, 11:02 PM
tekken is a joke online most people hosting if you beat them boot you (pressumable cause armor king is way overpowered LOL!) , never seen so many sore losers ever online in any game as the pathetics that play this

i mostly play vs the japanese now who are much more friendly an willing for some good comp. unlike most american who think they should never lose , kick people , pull the cord , hit standbye button etc etc

i forcast the same problems when tekken 6 comes out on ps3 ill stick to playing it on arc only

Cesar
06-21-2008, 01:50 AM
Yeah i'll definitely add you Atomic Moth, i just started playing a few hours ago with the help a friend able to purchase the game through a diff account, anyways I think that some ppl just leave and challenge someone else etc etc or the connection between the both of you gets desync and loses the connection between the 2 or something

Atm I'm able to play some ggs online but yeah just gotta stay away from those red bar connections, other than that its alright so far nothing to take too serious, just have fun is all

EDIT: and any other TX players wanna play some games, add me as well!!

yah yaahh b*tch!
06-21-2008, 07:23 PM
Tekken is a joke online. And everytime the match goes in my favor against some newbie Im cursed out and booted out the room.

FEAR CHRISTIE!!


I guess ill be on more often since I now have wireless for my ps3 and i have the wall jack for my computer. I should be on around 11:30-12 if anyone wants to play

Atomic Moth
06-27-2008, 10:40 PM
So as I've played a little more I've learned that even a little bit of lag on a good connection against a decent player is shitty.

I was held in check by custom strings and block stuns by a good Anna player the other day. The connection was better than average, yet when someone puts together an offense that would usually require quick timing on counters or parrys or even just blocks to stay alive, I couldn't do it. The Anna player killed me by just getting in and letting loose. In the arcade I could hit d/f to parry on reaction, but all I got was heels to my face. Or when I needed a quick ws+4 or d+1, the timing was off and I got more heels to the face.

So yeah, this shit is ridiculous and no one should take it seriously. A good offense is all you need. Fuck spacing, fuck counters, fuck defense in general. It doesn't work.

Critical King
06-28-2008, 02:42 AM
Tekken is a joke online. And everytime the match goes in my favor against some newbie Im cursed out and booted out the room.

FEAR CHRISTIE!!


I guess ill be on more often since I now have wireless for my ps3 and i have the wall jack for my computer. I should be on around 11:30-12 if anyone wants to play
fuck christie. lili is the bitch to watch out for
everyone abuses the flips(FRENCH PEOPLE!!!!). thats the reason i quit playing lol

Kusanagi02
06-28-2008, 06:46 PM
I think the whole ranking aspect mind fucks with me a little. Its like on one hand i don't care about the rank but at the same time, i would at least like to be able to get one of the ranks like Champion and stay there.

Its kind of hard to not care when you're getting screwed over by stupid stuff.

Ghostal
06-29-2008, 12:31 AM
This is why I only ever play DR with my crew.
All good people, all gentlemen, so if you get a 23+ win streak nobody is sitting there threatening to kick you out or being a bitch about random pokes or admittedly repetitive BNB combos.
It's a competitive game but all in good fun.

The last experience I had with online DR, some guy was playing Devil Jin and just spamming F+4, 1+4, 2, F, F+2. Literally, he was doing nothing else, even if it didn't connect, he whiffed a hit, or I just blocked the entire string. He seriously did it over and over and over. And of course, I win, he boots me, I just go back to playing with IRL friends who know how to play.
Fuck online modes for fighting games.
It seems like everyone are such whiners when they lose.

Brooklyn
06-29-2008, 06:54 AM
I guess im from the old school cuz I took my beating like a champ in tekken 5 on the ps2. I can remember my homeboy trespassing peter schooling me at the beginning something like 30-6 daily. the only reason im playing dro is mgs4 bundle. l now these scrubs are complaining off of a 5 win streak!? I hate playing some ppl that just don't get the concept of playing to get better. ill lose no biggie but getting kicked for winning and at the same time the host won't kick the bastard with the jacked up connection... its rediculous.

JackKnife Max
07-01-2008, 09:13 AM
lili is the bitch to watch out for
everyone abuses the flips(FRENCH PEOPLE!!!!). thats the reason i quit playing lol

If someone picks Lili, I can't help but assume the worst from them. I've seen a couple of good Lili players, but the rest are all about knocking you down and abusing the flips. Then there are the ones who just love using her unblockable even if it doesn't hit.

But I've found if they go for the predictable strategy, you can take them out easy. Just be patient and punish them when there's an opening in their defense.

Lei is the one that messes with me though. Worse than Christie and Lili when in the right hands.

Atomic Moth
07-03-2008, 03:33 PM
I think I may have a drinking problem onset from DRO.

I really can only drink while I play this.

I'll try to overcome, but it'll take a while. I'll keep everyone posted.

earratay jones
07-09-2008, 11:45 AM
honestly if they did something about the lag i would play tekken online everyday. but i really don't see that happening anytime soon.

earratay jones
07-09-2008, 11:48 AM
but i have seen some people who i've played against have all green bars but my connection becomes laggy as hell. and it seems to always be the higher ranked people who have green bars.

Syxx573
07-09-2008, 01:10 PM
DRO makes me mad for 2 reasons

the horrible lag

lili has been my main since dr beta

i entered a game and then got booted immedately after picking her

what the mother fuck, don't you know who the fuck i am

Kusanagi02
07-09-2008, 01:33 PM
DRO makes me mad for 2 reasons

the horrible lag

lili has been my main since dr beta

i entered a game and then got booted immedately after picking her

what the mother fuck, don't you know who the fuck i am

Cause Lili is rediculously lag friendly. She can do things that would get punished in offline play.

I$AAC
07-09-2008, 07:43 PM
DRO makes me mad for 2 reasons

the horrible lag

lili has been my main since dr beta

i entered a game and then got booted immedately after picking her

what the mother fuck, don't you know who the fuck i am


I feekl ya bro. I use Armor King is my main and I get hatemail for thows. my record is 89-30 and I can tell ya with a clear conscience at least 20 of those L's were because of lag. I hope they fix this net code in SC4 and T6

earratay jones
07-09-2008, 09:26 PM
but still why do some have better connection than others

Atomic Moth
07-10-2008, 10:45 AM
I got d/f+3ed to death by a laggy bryan player a couple days ago. I've stopped drinking so I couldn't handle it and almost put a hole in my wall.

I've taken a few days off. I hate this game.

yah yaahh b*tch!
07-10-2008, 06:11 PM
Why are people so hard headed? Dont thow. . dont fight on lag. Its not that hard to understand. I can say it in two different languages.

Brooklyn
07-10-2008, 06:44 PM
i hate fighting dudes with ignorant connections i lost 2 matches last night that i could have easily won if hwaroang/lee didn't disappear for 1 second and sniped me with their leg..

ZeonTheUnborn
07-16-2008, 05:55 PM
I feel you guys pain. Lili is a bitch to fight against. Especially when my connection was Green then dropped to black. I have my modem wired right to my PS3. And that son of a gun turned black the moment I connected with someone. I mean I was lagging so bad, my moves were coming out 3 seconds after I input them. Which was very...very...bad. Especially against Devil Jin...*shakes head* Namco needs to go talk to Rockstar and see how they built there servers. Cause GTA4 online doesn't lag at all for me. I just pray SC4 online doesn't lag. I can see Critical Finishes allll day.

yah yaahh b*tch!
07-18-2008, 07:47 AM
So as I've played a little more I've learned that even a little bit of lag on a good connection against a decent player is shitty.

I was held in check by custom strings and block stuns by a good Anna player the other day. The connection was better than average, yet when someone puts together an offense that would usually require quick timing on counters or parrys or even just blocks to stay alive, I couldn't do it. The Anna player killed me by just getting in and letting loose. In the arcade I could hit d/f to parry on reaction, but all I got was heels to my face. Or when I needed a quick ws+4 or d+1, the timing was off and I got more heels to the face.

So yeah, this shit is ridiculous and no one should take it seriously. A good offense is all you need. Fuck spacing, fuck counters, fuck defense in general. It doesn't work.

"yashodhara" was the name?

Plays the Williams sisters and Christie? That nigga had an almost 40+ win streak the other day I was on. He always talks about how much he hates Tekken and he cant wait for Calibur 4 to drop.

Ephidel
07-19-2008, 10:55 AM
Jeez I been dropped T5DRO. I understand that some of you don't really have decent comp in your area, but DRO still isn't worth its trouble. Too laggy, too many abusers, just impossible to put up with. It's been out for a while now so yeah I've given up on the likely scenario of better netcodes. I'd rather fight the cpu on ghost battle lol, I hope SC4 runs a lot smoother.

Bob Poundmax
07-21-2008, 05:58 PM
The funny thing for me is that it actually lags less when I'm on voicechat, but with that said there are some assholes who keep banning me either because 1.My online rank is beginner(seriously how the fuck am I supposed to up my rank when these dickheads keep dropping me) or 2. I play Lili. I

Now I'm not one toabuse lag(fuck, I dont even know which one to spam) but I just want to play the game against a human, but they're too scared to lose to a "beginner".



fucking scrubs.

DXN
07-22-2008, 07:03 AM
damn i can relate to all these posts......losing to lag is the most irritating thing ever!! i hate it!

Mr Bakaboy
07-28-2008, 08:14 AM
I find it pointless to even worry about rank. I throw up "Just4Fun". The rank whores get frustrated that they don't earn points and leave. Most high rankers understand it's all about friendly matches and most people I hear back from have fun.

mugenXinfinite
08-08-2008, 10:59 AM
theres this match with 3 of us and some dude beat the host . the host didnt want to wait his turn after that and wanted a rematch i assumed so he kicked me who was waiting for a match. it was just gay>< if you dont want to wait dont make a damn room that allows more than 2 peopple -_-''

Atrowurst
08-11-2008, 06:32 AM
why is it when I do speedtest.net on my pc I get a ping of 50ms and a downspeed of 10mbit, and when I do the speedtest on ps3 browser I only get 5mbit downspeed and a ping of 150? That's 3 times as much. Ps3 is on wired connection to the same router the pc is on, with the PS3 in a DMZ)

ZeonTheUnborn
08-26-2008, 06:01 PM
Bitchy Rant ensuing....

UUUUUUUUUUUUGH! I'm going to fucking SMASH my PS3. God damn you namco! I finally realized...that fighters are to be played offline...and offline only. I swear...I get lagged by a noob bryan player and thrown + sweep to death. I find a Steve who is like 536 wins and all he does is that fucking clip punch. A fucking Bruce player that SOME HOW hits me with b+3,2(or 1, whatever it is) when I'm doing db+3(With Feng. That goes under nearly every goddamn thing besides lows.) Jesus fucking christ. I'm going to the damn local arcade and playing some Tekken. Fuck. Even if it is a dollar!

Enumasam
08-29-2008, 04:47 PM
Bitchy Rant ensuing....

UUUUUUUUUUUUGH! I'm going to fucking SMASH my PS3. God damn you namco! I finally realized...that fighters are to be played offline...and offline only. I swear...I get lagged by a noob bryan player and thrown + sweep to death. I find a Steve who is like 536 wins and all he does is that fucking clip punch. A fucking Bruce player that SOME HOW hits me with b+3,2(or 1, whatever it is) when I'm doing db+3(With Feng. That goes under nearly every goddamn thing besides lows.) Jesus fucking christ. I'm going to the damn local arcade and playing some Tekken. Fuck. Even if it is a dollar!

You just got Tekken 5 DR Online'd

ZeonTheUnborn
09-17-2008, 06:16 PM
I now see the light....online rankings do not mean shit anymore. I swear...I went from 68 wins and 48 loses to 72 wins and 64 losses...how...the fuck did I lose 14 some odd times? Lag is the awnser...that and lag abuse tatics(Anna, King. I'm looking at you) I swear I almost broke my ps3 controller I swung it across the room so hard...and my poor dresser...my poor knuckle...shit I almost broke both thanks to Tekken. Namco up yours for making Tekken downright fustrating!

Better yet, SRK needs to set up a Tekken Club online or some shit, with a list of all the members who're gonna be init. That way we can have some DECENT matches.

kikimaru024
09-25-2008, 03:08 AM
I'll admit to (ab)using Bryan's d/f+3, but only because it seems to work really well for me offline.

Also, what's up with Lee's d+4,4,4,4?? Why is it so impossible to guard?