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Shadow Ace 50
09-24-2007, 05:55 AM
This thread is dedicated to those who are in the Job seeking process or wants to find a better job or wants a second job:rolleyes:....at any rate if you have any advice or have any suggestions to those who are on the Job hunt feel free to post...

(Ill update this post later I have to go)

Shadow Ace 50
09-24-2007, 06:07 AM
Target is hiring

:rofl:.....nice joke attempt

Phoenix Wright
09-24-2007, 06:15 AM
Target is hiring

:lame:

Ne0phyte
09-24-2007, 07:09 AM
I loled

Geese Pants
09-24-2007, 07:30 AM
There are plenty of good advice from an older thread...........SRK Employment Guide (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=113518&highlight=Employment).

Shukuda
09-24-2007, 08:24 AM
What does the red phone do @ target?

Geese Pants
09-24-2007, 08:27 AM
What does the red phone do @ target?


I thought it was for customer service..........

Shukuda
09-24-2007, 08:32 AM
I thought it was for customer service..........

Red phone in the application booth.

Is there a trick to those online applications with no previous work experience? I really wanted that part time job @ toysrus. Maybe I should call in?

masher
09-24-2007, 08:56 AM
lie...


alot

AzN_Skater
09-24-2007, 09:06 AM
Get an education.

GuMz
09-24-2007, 09:07 AM
^im in school right now lol

AzN_Skater
09-24-2007, 09:09 AM
^im in school right now lol

That's how we do. Say no to drugs and stay in school.

Pablo_the_Mex
09-24-2007, 09:43 AM
Don't be a minority.

Wellman
09-24-2007, 09:44 AM
Work on your interviewing skills, a good resume could get you here and there, but interviews will determine if you get a career or not.

Edit: Also what Pablo said.


Unless you are asian.

Demon Dash
09-24-2007, 10:06 AM
It's simple really, apply for everything... The more jobs you apply for, the more chance you have of landing a job. Also don't sit around on your arse like me, if employer's see that you're willing to work no matter what, they'll be more impressed with your application.

Ragetowersrage
09-24-2007, 09:51 PM
During the interview, kick the door in, piss on the boss, then t-bag him/her and shout "You're my bitch now!"


Hired

TheWanderer
09-25-2007, 07:22 PM
i was gonna post in the OLD THREAD JOB but i doubt anybody gonna bother reading all the pages so ima post it here. i got couple questions i HOPE SOMEBODY WILL ANSWER.



1. I'M CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR A MORNING SHIFT JOB STARTING AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. 6 AND UP WOULD BE GOOD.

2.ANYBODY KNOW ANY JOBS THAT PAY AROUND 9-10 FOR A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE/

3.WHAT JOBS/COMPANIES HIRE PPL AS AN INTERN/

moocus
09-25-2007, 07:27 PM
my bff <3 (no homo)

but seriously, if you live in southern california, the gas company is always hiring meter readers. 10-11 bucks to start, then bumped to a solid 16 bucks an hour after a few months. you just have to pass a series of pretty basic tests. i'm on the waiting list for the pasedena location, but it might be a few months til i can start working since that particular location is in high demand.

EDIT: thewanderer, if you're in socal that would be perfect. starts at 7am.

b00mshakalaka
09-25-2007, 07:31 PM
ill be working next year would love advice.

Shinto
09-25-2007, 07:32 PM
Don't sell yourself short.

b00mshakalaka
09-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Don't sell yourself short.

ok. :wgrin:

orka
09-25-2007, 07:37 PM
1) graduate with a b.s.

2) get a steady middle income job (40-60k)

3) save money and go to grad school or business school

4) cash in :tup:


--


but most importantly...

HARD WORK

...is what counts the most, no matter what your academic history, skill level, or current job is. i gave 100% when i was a grocery bagger at age 16. i gave 100% when i managed a dining hall in college. every little bit counts.

my attitude is still the same when i do pr evaluation for fortune 500 clients. i approach every task with the same vigor.

Wellman
09-25-2007, 08:07 PM
i was gonna post in the OLD THREAD JOB but i doubt anybody gonna bother reading all the pages so ima post it here. i got couple questions i HOPE SOMEBODY WILL ANSWER.



1. I'M CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR A MORNING SHIFT JOB STARTING AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. 6 AND UP WOULD BE GOOD.

2.ANYBODY KNOW ANY JOBS THAT PAY AROUND 9-10 FOR A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE/

3.WHAT JOBS/COMPANIES HIRE PPL AS AN INTERN/

Don't know about internships, but for the early hours gigs, you could try delivery company like UPS and the part time dock workers, they pay somewhat well and some offer tuition reimburstment. Also some big banks/corporations need IT people like 24/7 and could offer training. Although you got to know enough for a staffing agency to take the chance on getting your foot through the door first.

Javid
09-25-2007, 08:36 PM
1) graduate with a b.s.

2) get a steady middle income job (40-60k)

3) save money and go to grad school or business school

4) cash in :tup:


--


but most importantly...

HARD WORK

...is what counts the most, no matter what your academic history, skill level, or current job is. i gave 100% when i was a grocery bagger at age 16. i gave 100% when i managed a dining hall in college. every little bit counts.

my attitude is still the same when i do pr evaluation for fortune 500 clients. i approach every task with the same vigor.

Listen to this guy. It's all about hard work. Also, whenever somebody asks a question like this, I think of this quote:

“Maturity is achieved when a person postpones immediate pleasures for long-term values.”

Learn to know what counts in life. Work hard, go to school and never give up. Most of us are young here so the world is ahead of us.

Finally, don't party it up and chase pussy all the time. Those two things will drag you down if you don't mange them.:lol:

beatsofdevil
09-25-2007, 08:41 PM
bullshit through everything

I got this great first job! $14 an hour....benefits, I don't do shit but surf the internet all day. I don't even have my HS diploma yet.

but that's why on the resume I put in process of finishing up classes to get HS Diploma and College Degree, which I am, but still, always be an Optimist in your resume ;)

TheWanderer
09-26-2007, 06:33 AM
i do work at UPS, just not old enough to be a driver. damn u guys dont know any jobs out there that start early huh. thx anyway.

The Reminator
09-26-2007, 08:05 AM
Surprised no one has said this but ask relatives and friends. Don't sound desperate just mention you're looking for a job and if they know anyone who owns a business that's hiring or are currently working somewhere that will be hiring to let you know.

I landed a sweet job at a skate shop because I asked my friend to introduce me to his boss after he had been working there for awhile. My grandparents set me up with a summer job at our Country Club because they were tight with the manager.

School isn't about learning it's about meeting people. More and more it seems like it's not what I know its who I know.

f_man
09-26-2007, 09:18 AM
uhhh no.

it doesnt just boil down to hard work. because if you bust your ass off and your supervisors dont see the results, your hard work means nothing.

its actually going above just hard work, its proving you have something more to contribute than the average person. this is added value. and you have to play the game correctly if you want to move up. show that you contrbute added value and youre on a decent path.

being personable imo is the most sought capability, unless of course you're doing pure data or grunt work. anyone whos personable can nail an interview, woo their coworkers, and convince their boss that they are good. when its time for promotion, your review is based on what your boss has seen. and if your boss isnt there 24/7, hes not gonna see all of your hard work.






which in turn loops back to the original topic....

be personable. if you're a shut in who cant be friendly youre not gonna make it in this world. stupid people who cant perform well will even land jobs above someone who has a high gpa simply because they can talk. and chances are, if youre personable, then youve got friends whod be more than willing to lend you a hand.

orka
09-26-2007, 09:56 AM
uhhh no.

it doesnt just boil down to hard work. because if you bust your ass off and your supervisors dont see the results, your hard work means nothing.

its actually going above just hard work, its proving you have something more to contribute than the average person. this is added value. and you have to play the game correctly if you want to move up. show that you contrbute added value and youre on a decent path.

being personable imo is the most sought capability, unless of course you're doing pure data or grunt work. anyone whos personable can nail an interview, woo their coworkers, and convince their boss that they are good. when its time for promotion, your review is based on what your boss has seen. and if your boss isnt there 24/7, hes not gonna see all of your hard work.






which in turn loops back to the original topic....

be personable. if you're a shut in who cant be friendly youre not gonna make it in this world. stupid people who cant perform well will even land jobs above someone who has a high gpa simply because they can talk. and chances are, if youre personable, then youve got friends whod be more than willing to lend you a hand.

this is a horrible piece of advice. you make it almost sound as if hard work means nothing. my point is that it doesn't matter what you do: a fast food attendant, private tutor, chemical engineer, investment banker, etc. what's important is that you constantly give your best shot.

from experience, i definitely prefer working with somebody sociable. but if i had a choice between working with a awkward straight-edge that gets his part of job done effectively versus a social butterfly that needs constant deadline extensions, there is no comparison.

i also emphasized the importance of hard work because most of people posting in this thread are either students or are working in a non-career environment.

work ethic is not something you can turn on and off overnight. it's something that becomes a part of your character through daily dedication.

if you want to move up in your career, you should constantly be shooting for your best regardless if others notice your achievements or not. if you're the kind of person that works for the gratification of being admired by others, then you don’t deserve to be promoted. action speaks volume more than anything else. maybe you can sly through some peers and superiors, but most people that work with you day in and out can see your true character without you opening your mouth even once.

i work for the most powerful pr research group in the world. here, if you have the skills and have the constant dedication to hone your skills, you will stay. you're fast cut otherwise.

Geese Pants
09-26-2007, 09:59 AM
Never work for family..............

debs
09-26-2007, 10:28 AM
honestly, i'm siding with f man (orka makes sense, i just understand what f man is saying from experience). hard work is good and all, but realistically, shit is cut throat out here. you have to try to one up the next man/woman and be seen doing it to get anywhere. they DO have to see you as a productive worker that adds a lot to the company.

you could be easily passed up for someone thats more visable at doing the hard work and is more sociable than someone that isn't.

just be on your grind. go to work with goals in mind to make it to the top and you should be fine.

f_man
09-26-2007, 10:42 AM
im not saying hard work is irrelevant, im just saying that i think you can't point out hard work as the sole variable in the work world.

i know what you mean when youre judging between someone half assed but cool to work with, and someone who gets results but doesnt talk. it depends on your position. but if you have to choose between someone two people who bust their ass off equally, but one clicks with you more, that will be a deciding factor.

to the people in school, this isnt focking naruto. its a game. some people bust their asses off, have great intelligence, and then when it comes to landing a job, they bomb the interview. i dont know how the job market is in chicago, but in california i know so many people that have a great gpa, but bomb their interviews. some of these people have no internships, either because they thought academic performance ALONE would easily land them a job. and some people could not get internships at all either because they didn't know people to network with or because they bombed their interviews.

to the people in a non career job, youre probably having to deal with customers. and if you cant be friendly to a customer, youre not gonna cut it. be it a tutor, UPS delivery, gamestop cashier.

hard work alone will work great in a data or grunt position, or in a position where youre not on a team. skill and aptitude will take you a good way. but if you cant get along with your team, supervisor, warm up to a potential network contact, then youre behind the curve.

the biggest means people attain a job is via networking. if you can't talk, you can't network. that whole monster.com thing is just a fascade. i graduated with a bunch of friends recently in different majors. none of them got their job via online or a classified ad in the newspaper. most got their jobs either by already knowing someone (frat, friend, family), or by going to the career fair. and trust me, they didnt just throw a resume in a drop box. they had to open their mouth.

its not JUST hard work.