Can someone enlighten me on why the USA is hated so much?

[R.P.D rookie]

So I was just watching the news on Ahmadinejad visiting that university in New York and it got me thinking. Surely this man didn't just wake up one morning and decide he hates the USA, because it's the cool thing to do. Everyone seems to be wrong except the US or at least that's how it's made out on the news. Don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware the US has done some shady things in the past that warrant hate for the country, I'm just not sure which events lead many parts of the world to dislike the US. And I also know Ahmadinejad isn't some victim being picked on.

Here I thought Russia, China and USA were on good terms but now I'm watching the news where Russia and China forming an alliance is bad news. And now China and Russia are on shaky terms with the US. Now there's rumors of a new future Cold War. I'm confused.:wonder:

In short, can someone who follows the events of the past decades educate me as to why we're hated and just what the hell is going on? One day I turn on the tv and Putin and Bush are shaking hands, then I'm watching another show the next day that says we're on thin ice with each other.

This shit is worse than a StarCraft comp stomp 7 v 1 comp and after the computer is killed, everyone is trying to figure who is going to betray or backstab.

[f_man]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_history

go to history class.

[Dj-DarK]

Backing up Israel is one of the biggest issues that the Middle East has with America.

[Asura]

Because the majority of the people here are morons, the same morons in turn elect people into office.

[MAGUS1234]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_1945%E2%80%931989

start reading

[goodm0urning]

"You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists."

[egotism]

Why, you ask? More like, why not?

[Pablo_the_Mex]

With regards to Ahmadinejad, he has no real power. It is in Iran's constitution, so at this point all he is doing is ranting about the US. Of course, 98% of Americans do not know that Ahmadinejad is full of empty threats, leading conservatives to jump on the "lets fight Iran" bandwagon.

If anything, the US thrives on this hate.

[FurryCurry]

We'd be here all night discussing this.

I really don't know what the deal is with Russian and the US, because Putin is crazy himself and they really need a law like in the US to put a cap on how many times a president can be reelected. Russia I just don't get.

China and the US? This has been rumored for years. China is getting just as big as the US in terms of consumption of resources so who controls the most wins there.

The Middle East. Backing Isreal pretty much. If the US was like "Yah no, Isreal can go fend for themselves," a whole lot of hate would be dropped.

I know a global conflict would certainly make a lot of people money.

EDIT: And American hatred of America. America has become so divided and I'm not even talking about between the left and the right, the liberals and conservatives, but the government and it's people. I think that's where the real issue is but everyone is disagreeing about other shit that it doesn't even matter.

[sainthuey]

Like Nas said "Niggas hate to see you make it, so they pray you fail":china:

[SIMPLY_HUGO]

Because were a big country. If i go and suck a guy off..id piss 5 people off(small countries) If im an guy celebrity and suck a guy off i piss off the world(large country)

In short Mr.RPD rookie hope you dont mind me calling you that...we fuck up the whole world knows about it, others fuck up its not such a big deal

[Goose]

Because the world relies on America; and they hate to admit it.

[CoMpOuNd]

Blame Canada...

word.

[angelslayer13]

yeah russia is going kinda nutty with the assassinations and people also forgot that they found russian spy equipment in britain (it was a rock that had a mic in it) as far as china... their greedy and treat the monks like crap. theyre simply trying to remove all there traditions aside so they can gain more power I guess the monks are seen as antiquaited old china. they really are like america jr but for this to be allowed at this point in time really goes to show you how little things have changed. money is the single most destructive human invention

[MAGUS1234]

what monks are you talking about?

[GuMz]

CUZ WERE FUCKING GREAT THATS WHY EVERYONE HATES US



duh'

[Grits'N'Gravy]

Because all other countries in the world are jealous that they're not super powers.

The bottom always looks with scorn at the top.

That being said, some of the hate is justifiable... but people who say Americans are all ignorant morons need to look at their "low/idiot culture" and trust that most of us are 'normal' too. (See: Chavs and Pikeys, the mexican who chills in front of Home Depot... etc)

[jae hoon]

It really has nothing to do with what most of the people in the thread are going to say. The real reason most other countries hate us and have for along time is because we are the top dog. Everyone hates the top dog because they want to be there. That is really all it is, most of these countries have hated the US for decades and decades, they just now have a reason to "justify" it.

Mind you Bush is a fucking idiot but we have been hated for years regardless of who was in charge or what happened.

[SuicidalGrandpa]

Because all other countries in the world are jealous that they're not super powers.

The bottom always looks with scorn at the top.

That being said, some of the hate is justifiable... but people who say Americans are all ignorant morons need to look at their "low/idiot culture" and trust that most of us are 'normal' too. (See: Chavs and Pikeys, the mexican who chills in front of Home Depot... etc)

Word. I like this response as well as some of the others. We gotta factor in a lot of historical stuff, as well as current events too though

[MAGUS1234]

its not being a super power that makes other states angry, its what we do with the power.
ie: war/invasion with no justification (panma cuba iraq...ect)
lack of involvment/ funding of currupt groups
And of course the "funding of Isreal"

I mean if you talk to an educated person from another country and say"the reason other countries hate us is cause we are the top dawg" your gonna get laughed at.

[DeathReaper47]

America has done some shady shit, but for the most part its jealousy. Countries aint as good as we are. Not everyone can decide that if they push themselves hard enough, you can be whatever you wanna be and nobody, not your neighbor, your parents, and particularly not your government, can tell you otherwise.

Freedom and money baby. Many want it, few get it.

Treasure it.

Edit: Oh yeah, since we got possibly the biggest military in the world, we go around and beat up folks for pity reasons. America bitch.

[Grits'N'Gravy]

its not being a super power that makes other states angry, its what we do with the power.
ie: war/invasion with no justification (panma cuba iraq...ect)
lack of involvment/ funding of currupt groups
And of course the "funding of Isreal"

I mean if you talk to an educated person from another country and say"the reason other countries hate us is cause we are the top dawg" your gonna get laughed at.

I don't see how our government and much of what they do is our fault. We're a REPRESENTATIVE democracy, very little actually gets put in place by the people. I'm really sick of hearing shit like "Stupid fucking Americans, they're all blood thirsty morons" It seems like the Europeans and others don't understand that, even though their democracies are run the same way.

That's such a big generalization. ESPECIALLY hate to see it from Americans themselves.

Personally I would rather the US be isolationist in matters of international conflicts... Washington got it right. Before he left office he said something to the effect of "Don't get dragged into other countries business"... and since his presidency, almost all of them have been sticking their noses into everybody's conflicts.

Is that a better, smarter, more sophisticated answer for you, Brah?

[Penguin]

I'd say its more of the shady business, and a little bit of the jealousy.
But then again, everyone may have their own opinions for the reasons..... but they come to the same conclusion.

[MAGUS1234]

Well its a more complicated answer.

When i hear the generalizations like "americans are ignorant" I consider them making a value judgment based on our "represented" government and it's actions are conducive to the people that ultimitly voted for that government. So we kinda are at fault for it, and I think thats were the hate comes from. But im sure if they met a couple people here and there/ took time to see that people are not necessarily puppets of media and government they wouldnt hate us as much :/ IDK...lol

[goodm0urning]

If America were truly benevolent in its actions and intentions, we might still see some anti-Americanism, but I doubt it would go much further than mild resentment borne from jealously. But the radical shit you see, I guarantee, would not happen if America (more specifically, its government and mass media outlets) didn't have such a habit of swinging its dick in everybody else's face.

Hell, if it weren't for that, everybody would just hate France, business as usual.

[Bowza]

So I was just watching the news on Ahmadinejad visiting that university in New York and it got me thinking. Surely this man didn't just wake up one morning and decide he hates the USA, because it's the cool thing to do. .

Well in regards to Iran lets see what we have here:

The CIA's Operation Ajax which was when we removed the democratically elected prime minister of Iran, Mohammed Mossadegh, in 1953 and placed in dictator Reza Pahlavi, also known as "The Shah". The Shah's goverment was extremely corrupt and had its own group called the SAVAK(created under the CIA's guidance) that went around brutalizing and imprisoning any dissidents.

Then Iraq's invasion of Iran in 1980 where the United States FULLY SUPPORTED Iraq with weapons, money, intelligence, and even our own military operations agaisnt Iran. Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran and by the end of the war well over 400,000 Iranians were dead.

There's Iran Air Flight 655 where in 1988, a US missle cruiser shot down an Iranian passenger plane killing all 290 civilians.

Then we have all the sanctions against Iran, putting them in a group called the Axis of Evil, our military is to the right of their border in Afghanistan and to the left of their border in Iraq in large numbers while we constantly threaten military strikes on Iran for their nuclear program despite making more advanced nuclear weapons ourselves.

Too many Americans forget about all of the things our government likes to do around the world.

[Nagata Lock II]

:wgrin: OOOOOOHHHHHH CAAAAAANADAAAAAA :wgrin:

[MAGUS1234]

I like how Ahmadinejad said "we don't have homosexuals like the U.S, we don't have that phenomenon" *audience laughs*

I was dying...

[Grits'N'Gravy]

Well its a more complicated answer.

When i hear the generalizations like "americans are ignorant" I consider them making a value judgment based on our "represented" government and it's actions are conducive to the people that ultimitly voted for that government. So we kinda are at fault for it, and I think thats were the hate comes from. But im sure if they met a couple people here and there/ took time to see that people are not necessarily puppets of media and government they wouldnt hate us as much :/ IDK...lol


Lets look at an example of American representative government then:

12 million people in America use marijuana, when polled usually at least 75% of Americans either don't care about use or accept it. Every time there's a vote though, people who are "tough on drugs" are usually elected. Why? Because the two major (only) parties both generally support that ideal and the supporters of med-pot and recreational use have no choice.

The representative government doesn't represent a lot of people's idea of freedom, and there isn't that much of a choice. This is just a basic, not important example, but there are a lot of other things that not even 25% of people support that are a hell of a lot bigger issue than that.

So, we invariably get stuck voting for "a turd sandwich or a giant douche." That's one of the "take it or leave it's" of living here and I don't think it's fair for other countries to look down on us because of it.

[AdverseSolutions]

Bowza's post is good.

One more thing important to remember especially in the mid-east is that the historical process which resulted in 'grudges against Israel' coincided with the industrial development of the mid-east and the appearance of modern ruling classes. Building up militaries against Israel (Nasser, Assad, Hussein) etc. doubled as an internal social reorganization that made these regimes capable of addressing internal threats as well as keeping out potential further invasions from the west. Israel is also a convenient scapegoat for middle eastern dictatorships, and is turned to as a sort of safety valve, since these regimes have little else to offer their citizens but ideological crusades.

[Grits'N'Gravy]

:wgrin: OOOOOOHHHHHH CAAAAAANADAAAAAA :wgrin:

15% sales tax.




And we have better hockey teams now.

(But anyway... Go Habs!)

[MAGUS1234]

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:(....

[SNAAAAKE]

because we are arrogant sons of bietchss. we think we can go anywhere and fuck up anyone because we felt like it(ie Iraq)

[R.P.D rookie]

Well in regards to Iran lets see what we have here:

The CIA's Operation Ajax which was when we removed the democratically elected prime minister of Iran, Mohammed Mossadegh, in 1953 and placed in dictator Reza Pahlavi, also known as "The Shah". The Shah's goverment was extremely corrupt and had its own group called the SAVAK(created under the CIA's guidance) that went around brutalizing and imprisoning any dissidents.

Then Iraq's invasion of Iran in 1980 where the United States FULLY SUPPORTED Iraq with weapons, money, intelligence, and even our own military operations agaisnt Iran. Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran and by the end of the war well over 400,000 Iranians were dead.

There's Iran Air Flight 655 where in 1988, a US missle cruiser shot down an Iranian passenger plane killing all 290 civilians.

Then we have all the sanctions against Iran, putting them in a group called the Axis of Evil, our military is to the right of their border in Afghanistan and to the left of their border in Iraq in large numbers while we constantly threaten military strikes on Iran for their nuclear program despite making more advanced nuclear weapons ourselves.

Too many Americans forget about all of the things our government likes to do around the world.

Yeah, this was one of the tidbits I was looking for. Stuff like that goes WAY back to the 50's type stuff that keeps countries holding a grudge. I never hear about this when it comes to the discussion of "evil countries" on news reports, it's just they're the bad guys and that's all you need to know.

[Z!M]

Lets not forget when we marched troops thru mecca in the first gulf war. I dont know but something tells me that the arab world might not have liked that.

[goodm0urning]

So, we invariably get stuck voting for "a turd sandwich or a giant douche." That's one of the "take it or leave it's" of living here and I don't think it's fair for other countries to look down on us because of it.It's entirely fair of them to look down on us for that, because it wouldn't happen if the majority of Americans did not readily put up with and participate in the two-party system.

[Bowza]

Israel is also a convenient scapegoat for middle eastern dictatorships, and is turned to as a sort of safety valve, since these regimes have little else to offer their citizens but ideological crusades.

The US also supporting these dictatorships like Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, or the Saudi government also adds to people seeing the US as hypocritical.

[Duck Strong]

Well if this thread is any indication, it's at least partly because of the baseless condescending(read:xenophobic) attitude regarding the outside world that is so deeply ingrained into american culture.

The real answer is probably too complicated to bother with.

[wez]

because we are arrogant sons of bietchss. we think we can go anywhere and fuck up anyone because we felt like it(ie Iraq)

True. The government does the stupidest things. When the U.S. wanted Saddam and claimed that he had W.M.D., they were right. That is only because the U.S. sold him that shit during Saddam's war with Iran. The U.S. goes around pointing the finger at other countries and the American people just listen to the news. The facts are out there and the news are keeping them away. FUCK YOU FOX NEWS!:annoy: There is a lot more where that came from. That's why we're pretty much hated.

[scentless]

.nvm

[AdverseSolutions]

There were Iraqi WMD programs after the end of the Gulf War, in other words after the Ba'ath regime had become an enemy of America. Several attempts were undertaken by Saddam's circle to restart the program under the sanction regime. So the US is not completely hypocritical in this regard.

[MrBlank]

If anything, the US thrives on this hate.

fitty said go head and switch ya style up and if they hate, so let em hate and watch the money pile up...

[p91]

because mcdonalds is getting all the foreigners fat. haha

[MAGUS1234]

jus fattning up the turkey
*sharpening machette*

[Shadow Ace 50]

Because the white man raped our women and took our land and crops (generic Indian ideal)

[goodm0urning]

Well if this thread is any indication, it's at least partly because of the baseless condescending(read:xenophobic) attitude regarding the outside world that is so deeply ingrained into american culture.Xenophobia is not unique to America. I can't think of many countries that aren't xenophobic to one extent or another.

[MAGUS1234]

quote:
Because the white man raped our women and took our land and crops (generic Indian ideal)
quote:


(or black or mexican or chinese and japanese plus fillipinos and ........)

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Backing up Israel is one of the biggest issues that the Middle East has with America.

Actually the biggest issue the middle east had was U.S. presence in Mecca. It's after that, that Bin Laden swore war against US. US is hated outside of the middle east for trying to be the "Police of the World", and no one likes the police.


Edit: And lol, no it's not jealousy. This is one of the biggest misconceptions amongst Americans. If you've actually spent time in other countries you'd know other countries you'll find out people don't really give a shit about America, what pisses them off is that even though they don't pry in America's affairs, America always wants to get into other people's shit.

[Weeks]

the thing is, most countries that have hated us have no room to talk about shit, as they've all done fucked up shit themselves, and would do absolutely NO better given the power or opportunity. we simply get WAY more attention than anyone else, and thus, all the hate. we're the most powerful country, largest consumer economy afaik, and we export our culture like fucking CRAZY. Good luck visiting a 1st world country without a mcdonalds or kfc. it's extremely rare.

This of course leads to a backlash, just like popular bands or movies always get haters.

All that aside, America has done some shady shit in the past, without a doubt. The war in Iraq pissed away all of the sympathy we got after 9/11. We absolutely should not turn a blind eye to the fucked up things we've done. But I think hating America is the 'in' thing to do in most places.

If the whole world really hated us, we wouldn't have such a huge number of people trying to come here.

[Will Gotti]

fitty said go head and switch ya style up and if they hate, so let em hate and watch the money pile up...

Or we'll go upside ya head wit a bottle of bub, you know how we fuckin' be. You can find us in the club...

[Bowza]

If the whole world really hated us, we wouldn't have such a huge number of people trying to come here.

Thats exactly it I cringe everytime I hear some stupid shit like "they hate us for our freedom." Its one of the stupidest phrases I've ever heard. Everyone would love to live here because no one hates this place, nor do they hate the average american citizen. They just don't like how our government messes with their internal affairs all the time.

[Duck Strong]

fitty said go head and switch ya style up and if they hate, so let em hate and watch the money pile up...

And another piece of the puzzle falls into place.

Why does america idolize abject retards?

[Will Gotti]

the thing is, most countries that have hated us have no room to talk about shit, as they've all done fucked up shit themselves, and would do absolutely NO better given the power or opportunity. we simply get WAY more attention than anyone else, and thus, all the hate. we're the most powerful country, largest consumer economy afaik, and we export our culture like fucking CRAZY. Good luck visiting a 1st world country without a mcdonalds or kfc. it's extremely rare.

This of course leads to a backlash, just like popular bands or movies always get haters.

All that aside, America has done some shady shit in the past, without a doubt. The war in Iraq pissed away all of the sympathy we got after 9/11. We absolutely should not turn a blind eye to the fucked up things we've done. But I think hating America is the 'in' thing to do in most places.

If the whole world really hated us, we wouldn't have such a huge number of people trying to come here.

I never ever said this before but..."I'm with Weeks on this" :wonder:

We are all alone on this side of the hemisphere. So consequently we attract attention. Everyone else is clusterfucked together and you have a country that dominates and stands alone and does shit our way. Shit...if I was little ole' me <insert country> I'd be like "Who are those muhfuckers over there running shit?"

[Night]

The US is considered the "police" of the world.

A lot of people seem to have grudges against cops of any kind, so the same reason why you hate cops is probably more or less, the same reasons why other countries hate the US.

[Z!M]

Also because alot of people in America dont read or write threads like this. I was driving to school today and saw a bumper sticker that said i shit you not "why did God put our oil under their land?". I mean WTF man! too many americans think of the world in the context of just America and dont realize that what happens in the rest of the world does indeed affect our lives. Its not all bad though, a number of us are waking up and opening our eyes to look at the world as more then just America.

Oh and also we employ mercenary armys like blackwater in the middle east.

[AdverseSolutions]

Also because alot of people in America dont read or write threads like this. I was driving to school today and saw a bumper sticker that said i shit you not "why did God put our oil under their land?". I mean WTF man!

sticker is a joke dude...step your game up.

[HeaTBlazn]

Media?
Media around the world has probably potrayed america to an extent to make them hate it.

Every time I turn on news in america via sattilite, all I see is crime or something.
With such a high crime rate and whats going on in america (racist homophobe "gay bashing" etc.) Its hard not to hate it.

Im not saying it doesn't occur in other places which Im 100% sure it does, its just that we see more of america than any other place. Movies News TV shows Internet youtube.

I guess. =/

P.S

1 can = 1 US

send me some games!

[Z!M]

sticker is a joke dude...step your game up.

yeah cause when your in Texas and there driving a pickup truck with a rebel flag on the back window then you know they must have a sense of humor right!

[Muff Daddy]

Backing up Israel is one of the biggest issues that the Middle East has with America.

^true. but it goes deeper than that and really has a whole separate intellectual basis that i didn't even know about until i saw this BBC documentary.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=881321004838285177

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
Part 1: "Baby It's Cold Outside"

The first part of the series explains the origins of Islamism and Neo-Conservatism. It shows Egyptian civil servant Sayyid Qutb, depicted as the founder of modern Islamist thought, visiting America to learn about the education system, but becoming disgusted with what he saw as a corruption of morals and virtues in western society through individualism. When he returns to Egypt, he is disturbed by westernization under President Nasser and becomes convinced that in order to save society it must be completely restructured along the lines of Islamic law while still using western technology. He also becomes convinced that this can only be accomplished through the use of an elite "vanguard" to lead a revolution against the established order. Qutb becomes a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood and, after being tortured in one of Nasser's jails, comes to believe that western-influenced leaders can justly be killed for the sake of removing their corruption. Qutb is executed in 1966, but he inspires the future mentor of Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, to start his own secret Islamist group. Inspired by the 1979 Iranian revolution, Zawahiri and his allies assassinate Egyptian president Anwar Al Sadat, in 1981, in hopes of starting their own revolution. The revolution does not materialise, and Zawahiri comes to believe that the majority of Muslims have been corrupted by their western-inspired leaders and thus may be legitimate targets of violence if they do not join him.

keep in mind that he came to America in the 50s. back in the 50s, America was pretty damn tame. think about how wholesome the television families used to be in the 50s compared to today. if he could come to the conclusion that America was morally bankrupt in the 50s, what do you think their opinion of America is now? if you watch the video, they talk about how he sees lawn moving as extremely selfish and materialistic; and how he doesn't like boys and girls dancing together at school dances.

[goodm0urning]

keep in mind that he came to America in the 50s. back in the 50s, America was pretty damn tame. think about how wholesome the television families used to be in the 50s compared to today.Hahaha. 50s television was not at all accurate in portraying what it was really like to live back then. That's like saying modern life is like an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond.

[Muff Daddy]

Hahaha. 50s television was not at all accurate in portraying what it was really like to live back then. That's like saying modern life is like an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond.

well duh. i never said tv was real to life. i was more so speaking on the obvious difference between Leave it to Beaver and Roseanne or Married with Children. or Lucy and Ethel in I Love Lucy as opposed to Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie in The Simple Life. get it now?

[Bowza]

^true. but it goes deeper than that and really has a whole separate intellectual basis that i didn't even know about until i saw this BBC documentary.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=881321004838285177

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares


keep in mind that he came to America in the 50s. back in the 50s, America was pretty damn tame. think about how wholesome the television families used to be in the 50s compared to today. if he could come to the conclusion that America was morally bankrupt in the 50s, what do you think their opinion of America is now? if you watch the video, they talk about how he sees lawn moving as extremely selfish and materialistic; and how he doesn't like boys and girls dancing together at school dances.

Yes and this one man or any of his followers do not speak for all of the people in the middle east. Whatever people's opinions are, western culture is already deeply ingrained in the people's minds in the middle east and isn't going away.

[Muff Daddy]

Yes and this one man or any of his followers do not speak for all of the people in the middle east. Whatever people's opinions are, western culture is already deeply ingrained in the people's minds in the middle east and isn't going away.

i never said he speaks for all of the middle east. people say that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson speak for all black people, and i don't believe that either.

[Calibur]

Well if this thread is any indication, it's at least partly because of the baseless condescending(read:xenophobic) attitude regarding the outside world that is so deeply ingrained into american culture.



Xenophobia is deeply ingrained in EVERY single culture (except maybe Brazil).

[DeathReaper47]

Is having McDonalds and KFC around the world a good thing? "Yeah, we're making everyone fat! Woohoo!"


Also, America is dumb. We are so far behind so many countries now, its embrassing. Dropout rates increasing, averages lowered...its just does not look good to have so much money/military and be so fucking stupid. We're the big dumb bully of the world, passing our test with a D and beating up the Middle Eastern kids for quarters.

[goodm0urning]

well duh. i never said tv was real to life. i was more so speaking on the obvious difference between Leave it to Beaver and Roseanne or Married with Children. or Lucy and Ethel in I Love Lucy as opposed to Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie in The Simple Life. get it now?Lucy lied to her husband constantly and got into all sorts of trouble. Lucy and Ricky were also the first TV couple to be acknowledged as having relations. Never mind Fred, who was obviously a wife beater.

In summation, I Love Lucy is the greatest television show ever made.

[Taichi]

CUZ WERE FUCKING GREAT THATS WHY EVERYONE HATES US



duh'


What makes us great?

that we're the biggest bully in the playground?

we're certainly not the FREEST country in the world....That's Amsterdam, where you can blow bong hits into a cop's face, while legally banging a 15 year old prostitute.

[mr. newbie]

because ephidel is black.

[NG1313]

I really don't think American culture has anything to do with the hatred towards America. I'm pretty certain it doesn't. It just contributes to our general view of America and its population. Which, true enough, isn't really fair. It's a huge "country", and the bigger something is, the more difficult it is to maintain it. And the easier it is to corrupt it.

For me, it's the semi-imperialism. Even though they don't officially claim new territory, it's still an occupied country when that country isn't doing what's in its best interest.

America cripples the competition's abilities to grow in "power". Which might make sense in one regard, but it goes against the very foundation of a civilization (Respecting your fellow man's basic rights as a human being).

So America must be anarchistic. Without the mostly-corrupt media, there's a good chance it would commit genocide (in larger scale) and claim new territory as their own, as most nations were doing up until half a century or so ago.

[TheRock-BoS]

Saw the film...

Wow, Rumsfeld has been full of crap since 1976.....

[goodm0urning]

What makes us great?

that we're the biggest bully in the playground?

we're certainly not the FREEST country in the world....That's Amsterdam, where you can blow bong hits into a cop's face, while legally banging a 15 year old prostitute.We're great because I can get McDonalds 24-7, read Superman comic books (invented here), then retire over a peanut butter sandwich (also invented here) while watching Seinfeld DVDs (American comedy).

I can also make fun of the French like we invented that, too.

[TornadoFlame]

We're a very greedy country. I despise that myself. Money is the root of all evil and it definitely shows here.

[Dubz C. Brickweed]

Like Nas said "Niggas hate to see you make it, so they pray you fail":china:

I agree with this.



Oh. BTW, get mad if ya want but if this was the greatest country in the world, why most of us wanna go somewhere else?
I'd take my Crazy black ass to any of these places...

Amsterdam, Holland: The language & the lifestyle, the chicks, legal herb.
Japan: Brush up on my skills, the culture, further my racin skills
England: Everything except pikeys... well, the pikeys too, the can find some good bud.
Germany: Same as the last 3, but Absinthe too? hell yea!

U.S. Fuckin A FTW

[Manx]

We're a very greedy country. I despise that myself. Money is the root of all evil and it definitely shows here.

The love of money is the root of all evil. Not money.

[Augmint]

Bowza's post is good.

One more thing important to remember especially in the mid-east is that the historical process which resulted in 'grudges against Israel' coincided with the industrial development of the mid-east and the appearance of modern ruling classes. Building up militaries against Israel (Nasser, Assad, Hussein) etc. doubled as an internal social reorganization that made these regimes capable of addressing internal threats as well as keeping out potential further invasions from the west. Israel is also a convenient scapegoat for middle eastern dictatorships, and is turned to as a sort of safety valve, since these regimes have little else to offer their citizens but ideological crusades.

spot on.
Arabs hate the fact they lost with multiple armies and (deservedly) lost land.
Middle east is always gonna have dictators - and always HAD them

[white shadow]

USA is like a modern Rome

and we all know how that ended.

[*InVeRs3*]

snip
I'm with weeks on this one.

[Ouroborus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_1945%E2%80%931989

start reading

just which country hasnt the US fought against yet?

[TS]

Different people have different reasons. Many of them are retarded, some are not.

Edit: you should beware not to project your own reasons and rationalizations onto others, and assume you share the same motivations and ideas, no matter how "obvious."

[valaris]

Different people have different reasons. Many of them are retarded, some are not.

Edit: you should beware not to project your own reasons and rationalizations onto others, and assume you share the same motivations and ideas, no matter how "obvious."

Truth. I hate the US because I'm not there.

[blindspot]

Its cause we win the most Olympic gold medals and our athletes are cocky mutherfucks.

\end thread now cause its not goin anywhere

[Ryu & Ken]

just which country hasnt the US fought against yet?

erm India ?

Anyway as long as we British back you up, no one will dare attack you :rofl:

[Phoenix Wright]

They hate us because we're free. If you believe that pile of dog-shit then I have a bridge to Japan that I want to sell to you.

Other countries hate the U.S. because of our foreign policy and our support for israel.

[mr. newbie]

Different people have different reasons. Many of them are retarded, some are not.

Edit: you should beware not to project your own reasons and rationalizations onto others, and assume you share the same motivations and ideas, no matter how "obvious."

where's your av?

[RockBogart]

Putin is Ex KGB. When the Cold War ended, KGB become obsolete. After he became prez he started doing all this shit that would consolidate power for the long term. Dont be surprised if Russia becomes communist again. And we cant do shit to China right now, do the fact that they got us by the balls because they paid off our debts. They have more money invested in the US/and dollar than the US citizens do. If they wanted to, they could bitch slap the US economy with a single stroke.

[Obkb]

Putin is Ex KGB. When the Cold War ended, KGB become obsolete. After he became prez he started doing all this shit that would consolidate power for the long term. Dont be surprised if Russia becomes communist again. And we cant do shit to China right now, do the fact that they got us by the balls because they paid off our debts. They have more money invested in the US/and dollar than the US citizens do. If they wanted to, they could bitch slap the US economy with a single stroke.

EDIT: Oh nevermind. What a fucking waste of time. Not at you, RB, just in general. There's no point in bringing facts here. People don't want to hear them.

[RockBogart]

I don't see the UAE doing that for the simple fact they sort of like us and a lot of our PMCs provide security for them. Plus we would jump in someone's shit if they fucked with UAE just like we did with Kuwait.

[Weeks]

If they wanted to, they could bitch slap the US economy with a single stroke.

which would completely fuck them over as well. China and the US are in the same boat, our economy is so intertwined, that would be like shooting a hole in the bottom of the boat to drown the US, it would fuck them up all to hell.

The russians are getting frisky though, saber-rattling and threatening. Putin is EX KGB. This is the same KGB that tried to kill James Bond. That's bad. There's just no disputin' V. Putin

[ToyRobotTerror]

we hate you because we don´t have skittles

[RockBogart]

which would completely fuck them over as well. China and the US are in the same boat, our economy is so intertwined, that would be like shooting a hole in the bottom of the boat to drown the US, it would fuck them up all to hell.

The russians are getting frisky though, saber-rattling and threatening. Putin is EX KGB. This is the same KGB that tried to kill James Bond. That's bad. There's just no disputin' V. Putin

But if we start imposing sanctions, what makes you think they wont pull the trigger? Or start taking enough steps that would twist the US's arm into backing the fuck off.

[Atb_555]

Look Bush went to war cos he was pissed at the fact that Saddam wanted to buy oil in Euros rather than Dollars. Why do you think the US can so easily buy barrels of oil? All they need to do is print more money lol and Bush was not keen to give up that privilege.

http://www.helium.com/tm/20099/about-steady-supply-about

WMD's.....lmao :rofl:

[Hawk]

Truth. I hate the US because I'm not there.

Exactly. You're all jealous of the fact we can do whatever the hell we want. :rofl:

Edit: At the risk of yet more bad rep, I guess I'll elaborate.

I've been told by annoying military people that visit my school frequently (wow, what a non-bias source) that the US is both hated and loved in parts of the world because of the freedom we can enjoy. Some love us because of it, some hate us because they want the same privledges. Oh, and most of us are idiots, too. I guess it all varies.

Solution: Move to Canada.

[Will Gotti]

One thing too is, the rest of the world is cluster fucked on top of each other and know what's going on with each other all the time. That's why they think were stupid concerning world news. They're riding train on each other with their dicks in one anothers asses everyday so they involuntarily get world news thrown in their faces and can't shy away from it. Our coverage sucks.

Foreigners like the Australians and British (some friends) bring their candy asses over here to do those little interviews Jay Leno style that you find on the internet to prove themselves right. What people seem to forget is they only edit in the stupidest heartland types who don't know anything except for what the gov't tells them. If they do get someone who answers something right, the rest of the edits have someone answering wrong or looking clueless. So to the rest of the world, we all look stupid. They're stupid for thinking we're ALL stupid. On the other hand we're separated from everyone by two gigantic oceans, so we're looked at as those stupid powerful sumbitches "over there."

We're like that bully Caruso from Chris Rock's show "Everyone Hates Chris" and the rest of the world is a bunch of Chris's and Greg's. The ones who try to fight back and get their asses whupped are like Chris and the ones who run or are supposed to be our friends and run (like the French) are like Greg. Then the times when Chris does beat Caruso at something it's like when someone kicks our asses from time to time but we blow it off like Vietnam and Iraq.

[BrazilionBH]

The E! channel.

[Dataika]

It's not like people hate us because we are arrogant (and we are, just look at some of the posts in this thread).

It's not like people hate us because we have a historical record of imperialistic endeavors, especially with regards to Latin America and the Arab world.

I think that people hate Americans because a lot of them see America as a republic (which it is). When that's the case, it looks like we have had a hand in everyone of our society's tragic actions because we have elected said leaders over time.

However, I also agree with Weeks that other countries who hate us have little room to talk because some are even more arrogant than the United States and have done much more in terms of Imperialism than America has done. I've heard from immigrant students that the British are extremely arrogant when a foreigner doesn't speak like them; he said he found it hard to do anything there because they treated him like a retarded monkey because he had a heavy accent.

All in all, I think it's okay to hate what a government has done but it's not okay to hate people in said country because not all citizens are in favor of such things. You can look right at America for a great display of that.