Berserk Manga

[soulbankai]

I think this is where to put this.

Berserk is a great series in that it has a deep story and characters that you can connect with. Let me also add that this is one bloody fuckin manga. An example of how violent this series is are the manga covers, look at one of the manga covers, it has Casca all naked on top of Guts, whos nakedness is covered Casa's naked body, and also his blood.

Synopsis: .... I'll try not to spoil it if you get interested in this manga.
Guts is looking for revenge on his former ally, Griffith. After Going through one of the most terrible moments in his life, he makes a crew and sets off on a journey to help Casca, Gut's lover. From the deep pain and suffering she experienced in the past, Casca has lost her mind and travels with Guts to bring her memory back. Along the way, they meet mysterious new people who they fight, kill, and at times band together with in order to accomplish their mission. But Griffith, stands in their way and is also part of the God Hand, the legendary group known as Gods to regular humans. At every turn Guts in confronted with thoughts of his past and problems that newly arise.

I'm not sure if America is that far in the series yet, so I'll end the synopsis there. I hope that people on these forums can pick up this manga.

So please discuss this manga on this thread.:wgrin:

[KrsJin]

I own the series, have for quite awhile. And felt super blue balled after the finale. Everyone keeps mentioning how I should read the Manga, think it's finally time lol.

Does the Manga start at the same place as the series did or at a different point?

[Manny_O]

I own the series, have for quite awhile. And felt super blue balled after the finale. Everyone keeps mentioning how I should read the Manga, think it's finally time lol.

Does the Manga start at the same place as the series did or at a different point?

The manga starts at the same point as the anime, but goes way farther than the anime did. The manga's still ongoing and hasn't finished yet. The manga is far better than the anime in every way, so you should definitely read whenever you get the chance.

[soulbankai]

The manga starts at the same point as the anime, but goes way farther than the anime did. The manga's still ongoing and hasn't finished yet. The manga is far better than the anime in every way, so you should definitely read whenever you get the chance.

True dat true dat. The manga even has characters that weren't in the anime. About 6 characters are missing in the arc that the anime covers that are in the manga. And the manga goes to about to 30 volumes in japan right now. America, I think has about up to 18 volumes at the moment. But yes, read the manga. You'll love it regardless of how different it is compared to the good (but crappy compared to the manga) anime. It also continues where the anime left out in greater detail. Currently, there looks to be no end in sight for the manga, I mean, the series that inspires it is 114 volumes soooo.....

[DanSC]

this is one my favorite, but honestly i think the story became less good and excited after Griffith became one of the Godhand, i felt like it focus too much on other people and wars..but it still a very good manga and one of my favorites.

[EndLeSS8]

I've been reading BERSERK since 2001, and it's my favorite series. It had quite a good amount of influence in my life.

I just hope it ends in my lifetime, and Miura doesn't get ill or something.

Shameless plug for a friend of mine: The best english webpage/compilation of almost all the BERSERK statues out there (http://www.berserkstatues.com/)

[The Granby]

Best series ever.... I imported the japanese up to 31 oooohhh so damn good.

This thread will be full of awesome.

[monbaby]

I seen the anime and have volumes 1-3...

I hope guts destroys that bitch griffith who happens to be the most jealous nigga ever created...

Berserk has made me realize one thing in life...

Life revolves around beautiful women...

[Manny_O]

I've been reading BERSERK since 2001, and it's my favorite series. It had quite a good amount of influence in my life.

I just hope it ends in my lifetime, and Miura doesn't get ill or something.

Shameless plug for a friend of mine: The best english webpage/compilation of almost all the BERSERK statues out there (http://www.berserkstatues.com/)

Those statues look awesome, I'd love to get one but they're pretty expensive it seems.

[Rengoku]

really having those stupid magic addons such farnese and the stupid little witch wannabe ruined the manga..it's like a circus now

until the first eclipse and some chapter after, berserk was the best manga ever made

[Laike]

good series indeed, but i feel that the current chapters are kinda boring..... to be honest.

the series doesn't seem to be going anywhere atm....

[The Granby]

You guys are crazy, the story is even better BECAUSE IT'S MOVING ON, ie it's not about guts killing apostles for 20+ volumes like Hokuto no Ken with swords. Maybe you guys don't like a plot moving but hey that's why we have Ichi the Killer.

As for farnese and schierke, this is a story about demons, otherworld spirits, and elves right? It was that way from freaking book 1. The band of the hawk section was just to lay the background story for why guts is killing shit, or again, this would just be just pointless hacking up of things.

All of the current stuff is guts working for his girl caska and showing what griffth is doing.

[Rengoku]

good series indeed, but i feel that the current chapters are kinda boring..... to be honest.

the series doesn't seem to be going anywhere atm....

for the win

it's true that an arc involving creatures from another world may imply magic and such
but right now it's all about shilke focusing channeling a spell with tons of pages where she only try to call some spirits and gatsu and shilke team up to avoid the armor to hunt for allies

this to me it's boring

it become even more if you add a crapload of useless side characters such as those prostitutes from the second eclipse arc and now the farnese family

especially when we have such interesting unanswered question like the skull knight and his past wearing the berserk armor, zodd's past and origin and what exaclty a bejelit allow to his owner (gatsu/pak still own one do you remember?)

[Pinion]

You know I really don't mind the members of Guts' party, but I've got to say that as of late Puck being used as a forced source of comedic relief is really starting to get on my nerves.

The most recent chapter of Berserk is a fine example of this. Starts off great, with the monologue by the berserker spirit residing within Guts (which is starting to remind me of Fenrir), but then suddenly we get hit with, like, 10 pages of Pucks stupid overly animated shenanigans.

I don't mind the side stories concerning Farnese or Schierke, but this nonsense with Puck seriously needs to get toned down cause it's becoming a HUGE turn off.

[G.O.T]

I've been reading BERSERK since 2001, and it's my favorite series. It had quite a good amount of influence in my life.

I just hope it ends in my lifetime, and Miura doesn't get ill or something.

Shameless plug for a friend of mine: The best english webpage/compilation of almost all the BERSERK statues out there (http://www.berserkstatues.com/)

Is it possible to order any of those statues?

[SmrK]

I hope guts destroys that bitch griffith who happens to be the most jealous nigga ever created...
Berserk has made me realize one thing in life...
Life revolves around beautiful women...


You seem to have missed the whole point of Berserk... As someone mentioned before, the anime leaves you very blueballed. It actually got me reading the manga. Griffith had his reasons for his actions, as is explained in the anime, although manga goes much deeper.


I own volumes 1-15 and think that Berserk is one of the best manga series out there. Anyone knows how many volumes are available through Dark Horse comics? Takes me ages to order and receive'em over here:arazz:

[JackTenrac!]

- But Puck is comic relief. Decent, unabridged, comic relief.

[Sano]

Love Berserk. And yes the manga is better than the anime but I give the anime props for being as violent as it was, like the blood was pure red on that show and not that shiny white stuff they were doing a lot when the show came out. The anime left a lot of stuff out since they only had 13 episodes but they got a lot of stuff in too. It's rough that it ends on such a cliffhanger but every question brought up in the first episode was answered in the final ep, they brung up a lot more questions though ha ha! Big up to no Puck in the anime, I hate his ass. :rofl:

The Serpico / Guts fight in the last chapter was tight, I head about that last year and was happy to read it finally in Dark Horse's latest translation.

[Akutabi Gamma]

Well first off this DOESN'T have to be hear; there already was a Berserk thread in the General Disccusions forum, but it died off sadly.
Anyway new chapter comes out in Freaking Nov., BUT Vol. 32 comes out END OF NOV.!

[JackTenrac!]

Well first off this DOESN'T have to be hear;
Hear what?
[quote] there already was a Berserk thread in the General Disccusions forum, but it died off sadly.

A comic's a comic, and as frequently as that thread a appears, it was best suited to be in the comic section of the forum anyway.

[EndLeSS8]

Is it possible to order any of those statues?

Yes, but expect to pay $$$$ because all of the statues range from $200 to the rarest costing about $1000 (Market value. Original price was about $500)

http://www.art-of-war.co.jp/

I have my Zoddo II (Limited edition, bloody version) for sale


As for the manga, I admit it is going slow now, but nothing is extraneous.
Character development and showing why the characters are doing what they are doing.

If you want to read a mindless violent story, there are other mangas out there for you.

[Akutabi Gamma]

[quote=Akutabi Gamma;4359341]Well first off this DOESN'T have to be hear;
Hear what?


A comic's a comic, and as frequently as that thread a appears, it was best suited to be in the comic section of the forum anyway.

Sorry grammatical error on my side, I should've written 'here' :P.
It's fine by me mind u, just so long as we discuss Berserk and manage to get others into it.
BTW how well translated are the English releases? Do they stay true to the original source?

[JackTenrac!]

- no worries.

-One Manga has fan translations, but I doubt that they are accurate speech wise. It sounds too modern to be that. Still, entertaining.

[Sano]

The English releases from Dark Horse are very accurate, they even retain the Japanese sound effects. Not edited or anything, just as bloody with lots of demon sex like the original work.

Guts is an interesting character. Every major decision about his life was made for him, and the one time he makes his own decision by leaving the Band of The Hawk everything goes terribly wrong. He really is a slave to fate.

[The Granby]

for the win

it's true that an arc involving creatures from another world may imply magic and such
but right now it's all about shilke focusing channeling a spell with tons of pages where she only try to call some spirits and gatsu and shilke team up to avoid the armor to hunt for allies

this to me it's boring

it become even more if you add a crapload of useless side characters such as those prostitutes from the second eclipse arc and now the farnese family

especially when we have such interesting unanswered question like the skull knight and his past wearing the berserk armor, zodd's past and origin and what exaclty a bejelit allow to his owner (gatsu/pak still own one do you remember?)


What the hell, those were some important parts of the story dude. And the prostitutes also had a big part as well. I mean half of the shit Guts has done wouldn't have been possible with out all those "side" characters, IE we wouldn't have ANY INFO PERIOD on Skull Knight or Behelit without Schierke/Flora. And we wouldn't have gotten that awesome Guts+Zodd part as well as a ship without farnese/serpico. And we wouldn't have caska back PERIOD if it wasn't for the prostitutes. I mean what do want the story to be like.

"Guts kills everyone in his way, has grand DBZ battle with Zodd, tag teams with Skull Knight for a grand master tournament, then they use the behelit for one gigantic boss battle with the God Hand!"

I mean this arc is more exciting than the Band of the Hawk section where you pretty much knew Griffith was going to get what he wanted no matter what. You can't really predict where Miura is going to go with this series right now other than where the ship is supposed to be headed.

[EndLeSS8]

The English releases from Dark Horse are very accurate, they even retain the Japanese sound effects. Not edited or anything, just as bloody with lots of demon sex like the original work.

Guts is an interesting character. Every major decision about his life was made for him, and the one time he makes his own decision by leaving the Band of The Hawk everything goes terribly wrong. He really is a slave to fate.

Actually, it's the exact opposite.

Guts is one of the only characters OUTSIDE of fate.


*spoilers


Guts was supposed to die during the Eclipse, predicted by a lot of characters, including Zoddo
However, Guts survived, and afterwards Godhand, Zoddo, and Skullknight acknowledged that Guts is outside of Fate's hands now, so in essence, he is the only one who can really affect Godhand and Griffith.
Of course, this is to the amusement of Godhand, and Zoddo gives Guts respect that he survived and is very unique.

[DarthTrey]

Currently only on Vol 10, but I must say even the little bit that I've read its already exponentially more bad ass than the anime(which was already in a whole new league of awesome).

Was just pointed to the thread recently, just dropping in to say hewwo

[Sonichuman]

I've been keeping up with the Berserk manga up till now as it's being pushed over here...This is the most goriest manga that I myself have seen and I'm loving how kentaro miura is drawing this stuff...supposedly the anime series is supposed to start back up at sometime cause it kinda sucked that they had to stop basically halfway...does anybody know what's the deal with that?

[JackTenrac!]

- The Zodd + Gatts team up manga was jokes. Gatts is swearing and threatening Zodd as he's riding him.

[Sano]

SNIP!

Well yeah suppose that's true thanks. His life is still pretty messed up though.

[soulbankai]

It looks like people are starting to get interested in BERSERK. I'm glad. I hope this thread will grow larger. But yeah, I love all the characters. I want to see more Skull Knight!!!!! Everytime I see him for some reason I think, "Akuma?" I can't wait to see what happens next, but I know that this shit will be FUCKING EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JackTenrac!]

- Actually, Serpico is epic. A lapdog, but he's the Shikimaru of Berserk. Sure, Skull Knight is a badass and all, but Serpico is too much power for his role. His backstory is serious business, but lacks the action. Still, his tale is quite a beastly one in itself and it's great seeing a human have the power to confront and match Gatts at somewhere near his non-berserk level.

[The Granby]

Out of all the new characters I must say I do like Serpico the most, he is too damn smart. But I wouldn't call someone who got punked by Guts liek twice in a row epic, amazing but not epic.

I'll join the Serpico fan club if he takes down a big apostle though. So far only Guts and Schierke seem able to do that.

Beary Ryoma- I know that about the Zodd + Guts part, but it still was an awesome chapter.

[G.O.T]

Serpico, Gatts, Zodd, and Locus are my favs right now.

Skull Knight is a complete friccin mystery. I want to see him kick ass soon.

[JackTenrac!]

- Ah...punked. That's easy, since every monster, apostle, and whatnot verbally. But beaten in a duel with Gatts, that took more than 3 mins with cunning, finesse, and speed as his ally and with his own talent? that's something to give props to. Serpico wasn't punked. Serpico is still a worthy adversary of Gatts because when they had fought, Gatts did stagger a few times. He almost did that more times than he did with Griffith, still. Serpico understands his ability better than the other characters of Berserk do and adjusts to his situation accordingly. Almost as well as Skull Knight, but better than Slike, Isidoro, and, surprisingly, Zodd would.

It's questionable if Gatts would have won, though. Gatts didn't use his knives, and he also didn't whip out the arrows, bombs, and/or cannon. Well, the first fight he did.

- Surprised that Owen is a recurring character, though.

[The Granby]

- I give serpico credit that's for sure, I just hope his character manages to survive the whole ordeal before it's over. This is miura after all, dude had no reservations killing off half the cast that he took 15 books to develop.

-I think it's cool how there are characters WAAYYY from the begining that still matter in this story. I mean I can't tell you how much I hate stories that introduce important looking characters and then...... never go back to explain them. The Berserk world is so well interconnected, I can't wait to see who else Miura brings back.

[Fin.K.M]

the series doesn't seem to be going anywhere atm....
wat

Are we even talking about the same manga here? I can understand if you think the current chapters are slow, but to say that the series isn't going anywhere is kind of silly. It's a little slow now because they are in the process of 'going somewhere' and their current situation doesn't really allow Guts to be slicing a shitload of demons in half. Before this, we had TWO huge battles back-to-back and a major plot revelation, and you can bet a lot of shit is going to happen once they reach their destination. Hell, we don't even have to wait that long; judging by the last page of the latest chapter, some serious poo-poo is about to go down right now.

As for the manga, I admit it is going slow now, but nothing is extraneous.
Character development and showing why the characters are doing what they are doing.
Exactly.

The characters are what got me hooked on Berserk, so I happen to enjoy the latest chapters. I especially liked the dialogue between Guts and Schierke at the end of ch.287.

[Biolink]

Reading it right now and I am on Chapter 147.

I've never wanted a hero to defeat the bad guy as much after reading this.Griffith's quite easily one of the most evil characters I have ever seen in comic book form.

And monbaby is that Caska in your avatar?

[The Granby]

Reading it right now and I am on Chapter 147.

I've never wanted a hero to defeat the bad guy as much after reading this.Griffith's quite easily one of the most evil characters I have ever seen in comic book form.

And monbaby is that Caska in your avatar?

Yeah that's caska bro, and I agree, Griffith is a bitch, but that's part of why Berserk is so good, tragic anti-hero and an extremely evil yet at the same time righteous villian.


Fin.K.M - totally agree, Berserk only gets better. How long has this series been going? Like for almost 10+ years? Classic.

[JackTenrac!]

- Remember Rick James' music? well, Berserk's been around since then.

- Even so, Serpico isn't one to die easily. Something seriously fierce would have to go for him to depart of this world. Rickert would need to get back in somewhere. I'm surprised that Griffith didn't recreate his main members of the Band of the Hawk(Corkus, Pippen, Gatts' main dude) into apostles in order to trick Gatts and Caska, though.

- I noticed that the One Manga translations are very loose. For instance, I'd see Silke is being renamed several times.

- Berserk is a big manga with various characters. There are times where the story has to keep you informed of what the other characters and problems are at(Kushan vs. Midland war, Zodd's fights, Band of the Hawk, especially Sonia and Mule, Midland itself). Heck, I'd like to know what Azan is doing from time to time. It's good to cover them all because this shows good development.

[Sano]

Since there's a lot of people coming over from general, as the mod of this forum I am only going to ask two things, so far no one has crossed these rules so no problems.

Please do not post up any links where you can read scanlations of Berserk for free or give people links where they can download the manga for free. The reason for that is this forum is very pro you going to a comic book store, or in the case of Berserk a Japanese book store or a regular bookstore and supporting the art form. What you do in your PMs is your business, just keep it out of here.

No scans. A lot of that is for the same reason as above. By scans I mean you grabbing your book and scanning away. Find an existing link or better yet, describe what you just saw which is a lot easier and far less work. Big reason for this is see above.

The other thing is regarding spoilers. This is more of a suggestion and not an actual rule. I suppose it's a floodgate now that can't be stopped and honestly I think at the point we are up to in the US there aren't really major spoilers to come at least for a while, or at the very least I already know a bunch of stuff that's going to happen through friends of mine lol! But if you wish to use them type it out like this -

[ s p o i l e r =Berserk] Bla bla [ / s p o i l e r ]

When you put it together, it looks something like this -

This manga rules!

If you are not sure just quote this post and you will have an example on how to do this.

Any questions about these rules, complaints, whatever just PM me. Thanks.

Aside from that again since I haven't had a single problem with anyone on this thread so far have fun! DON'T KNOW RYE DON'T KNOW RYE IT'S TOO RATE! IT'S TOO RATE! :rofl:

[G.O.T]

What is up with that beast inside Gutts? It says it's been around since he was born in one of the chapters. Is it a manifestation of him wanting to survive, or is it something else? Because it seems to be something not connecting to God or the Apostles at all.

[DarthTrey]

thanks for the info sano :)

[JackTenrac!]

- Probably just something that seemed to be from the brand. It wants to kill Caska, so it can be from there.

[The Granby]

I think it's another spiritual being seperate from the godhand. It just seems to have an effect on guts that allows him to do crazy ass shit. Guts survives some insane situations, I'm glad schierke and the rest are there to keep his ass sane and alive.

- Remember Rick James' music? well, Berserk's been around since then.


O-M-G...

*monkey falls from the sky*

[soulbankai]

No prob Sano. But yeah, I'd really rather wait and get the manga at the comic stores that download them. Its not that I don't like crappy quality scans or fans tranlating it, its just that I want a good translation so I know I won't get fucked over when it comes to important things like names getting changed because of romanizations or anything like that. But thats cool.

I really didn't expect Serpico to become that much of a great character. I always thought of him as like.... an average joe of some sort. But he just kicks ass from my point of view, and I can see that most everyone here totally agrees. Hmmm.... Saying that, I hope to see the characters grow. Oh, and I only read a few scans... and skipped way too far ahead for my tastes. I recently just decided to stop reading scans. For the reason above really. I can't wait till I get a fucking JOB!!!!! Then I'll be able to support my BERSERK habit and get the manga already!!!!!

[Sano]

Not sure if yall have seen this since it's a little old but this is the greatest Berserk AMV EVER! :rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L0E6nP6PO0

[ShinjiGohan]

I was reading that in one of the interviews with Miura, he says that the story is only about 1/4 to 1/3rd of the way through. And has every intention to keep the manga going for another 30 years. So those with out patience, this may not be the manga for you.

Also for those that say the manga doesn't go anywhere. Of course you feel that way. Anytime you read one chapter a week to a month (a couple months in Miuras case), you're going to feel that it moves very slowly. But if you try reading volumes back to back you'll typically see the story move quite well.

[Biolink]

Awesome AMV.

Also that ugly fetus thing that popped out of Caska's cooch,was that Guts and Caska's kid and Griffith just fucked it up when that incident happened,or is it Griffith's kid?

[The Granby]

Awesome AMV.

Also that ugly fetus thing that popped out of Caska's cooch,was that Guts and Caska's kid and Griffith just fucked it up when that incident happened,or is it Griffith's kid?

It's Guts+Caskas kid according to the Skull Knight just disfigured by the Eclipse.


Also thanks ShinjiGohan for the info, 30 years later I can look back and tell my kids how badass this series was (or at least hope it was badass that far ahead hahahah).

[ShinjiGohan]

I'm pretty sure that it was the first thing you said.

[DarthTrey]

Greatest line that never made it into the Anime

Griffith - "I want you......Gatts...."
Gatts - (crazy shocked anime face) "Are you homo?"


I LOVE IT!!!

[G.O.T]

oh hell no. I'd probably be pushin daisies by then. Thats bullshit. Miura's bs'in with the fans I know he is...:(

DarthTrey: yes. that was funny. For it to be set in medieval times they sure got their slang right don't they? Especially lil dude that chunks stuff. Idro I think.

[soulbankai]

Not sure if yall have seen this since it's a little old but this is the greatest Berserk AMV EVER! :rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L0E6nP6PO0

Dang man, that shit was dope. I'm about to watch it again.

[The Granby]

oh hell no. I'd probably be pushin daisies by then. Thats bullshit. Miura's bs'in with the fans I know he is...:(

DarthTrey: yes. that was funny. For it to be set in medieval times they sure got their slang right don't they? Especially lil dude that chunks stuff. Idro I think.

Lol I guess it would suck if you died before the thing finished lol.

Hopefully he doesn't get TOO carried away.

[EndLeSS8]

I'm going to get angry remarks about this :lol:

But I'm a Griffith fanboy.

My favorite characters, in order:

1. Griffith
2. Zoddo
3. Berserker Armor Guts


Amid all the violence, BERSERK has some of the most stunning and beautiful scenes that I've read in manga.

My favorite scenes (In no order)



-Bonfire of Dreams. I get emotional every time I read that scene

-Battle at the Hill of Swords. Epic...One of the best battle scenes ever

-Mule meeting Griffith at night, with a sea of stars. Another scene I get emo when I read through. It's a very beautiful scene

-Watching the Emperor's army move and fight (That last army fight was INSANE. It was about 10x bigger than the last fight scene in Return of the King)

-Guts vs Grunbeld. I get chills down my spine reading through this fight.

-Guts beconing the Trolls to come fight after he ran out of arrows....:lol: Rapage.

-Last fight with Guts vs Serpico. Guts using raw power to smash through columns.
Seriously, BERSERK has the best 2 page spreads, hahahah



I think BERSERK has been around since 1989. I might be off by a year or two. I know that Miura had thought of the manga since college.

[gabrielzero]

You seem to have missed the whole point of Berserk... As someone mentioned before, the anime leaves you very blueballed. It actually got me reading the manga. Griffith had his reasons for his actions, as is explained in the anime, although manga goes much deeper.


I read all of that shit and I still think Griffith is a douche bag. Anyone who sacrifices all of his friends to hell is a piece of shit in my opinion. XD

I love Berserk and I just got up to manga 18 Is skull knight.com still doing translations ? I haven't checked it out myself, but I heard is was a good site a few years ago.

[JackTenrac!]

- Try this, sano. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4fdgo4rIlA)

- The fetus story is pretty nasty, however, it's ironic how it turned out. I mean, seriously, that was so left field. But then, it was probably planned to go out this way. Prophecies and what not. It had to happen. He's pretty vital that guy. Alot more than Puck, even though Puck is just as important. Actually, he isn't, but he's hella funny with the Robin Williams potential.

- Gatts versus the Kushan assassins was awesome for a human to human conflict. Next to the Kelpi vs. Serpico. That was another good monster vs human fight. Wicked swordplay indeed. Ishidoro also. He seems to be a good sport when it comes to being a keen apprentice of Gatts. Almost like a good replacement for Rickert and a small replacement for Colkus. Horny, funny, determined, ignorant and full of win.

- Btw... is Caska... a Kushan? She looks like she is complexion-wise.

[Laike]

wat

Are we even talking about the same manga here? I can understand if you think the current chapters are slow, but to say that the series isn't going anywhere is kind of silly. It's a little slow now because they are in the process of 'going somewhere' and their current situation doesn't really allow Guts to be slicing a shitload of demons in half. Before this, we had TWO huge battles back-to-back and a major plot revelation, and you can bet a lot of shit is going to happen once they reach their destination. Hell, we don't even have to wait that long; judging by the last page of the latest chapter, some serious poo-poo is about to go down right now.


end of ch.287.

Yea, true.. true, my apologies for the ignorant post sir!

[EndLeSS8]

If any of you guys have a DC, go try to find BERSERK: Gut's Rage

It's quite a good game (hard on some parts) and the it's actually an official chapter in BERSERK that wasn't in the manga. It is endoursed by Miura himself, and sometimes he pays homage to it, like when Puck was looking at a Mandragora root.

[Biolink]

I read all of that shit and I still think Griffith is a douche bag. Anyone who sacrifices all of his friends to hell is a piece of shit in my opinion. XD

I love Berserk and I just got up to manga 18 Is skull knight.com still doing translations ? I haven't checked it out myself, but I heard is was a good site a few years ago.

Agreed.

Fuck Griffith.Fucking piece of shit

[soulbankai]

If any of you guys have a DC, go try to find BERSERK: Gut's Rage

It's quite a good game (hard on some parts) and the it's actually an official chapter in BERSERK that wasn't in the manga. It is endoursed by Miura himself, and sometimes he pays homage to it, like when Puck was looking at a Mandragora root.

Your right about it being hard. I almost died on the FIRST part!!!!! And then that first boss fight was fuckin insane!!! I was like, "If this is the first boss then..... HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!"

[EndLeSS8]

Your right about it being hard. I almost died on the FIRST part!!!!! And then that first boss fight was fuckin insane!!! I was like, "If this is the first boss then..... HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!"

Yea, later parts of the game is pretty retarded. I was ranting a bit about it on the "Hardest game" thread, in the part where Guts needs to escape the corridors with roots. I couldn't pass the 2nd corridor.

My bro played that game before I read BERSERK (He played it in 2001, I believe) and he was pretty good. He passed the corridor part, and finished the game on Easy and Normal. He couldn't pass Zoddo on Hard though.

[JackTenrac!]

- ... the last part was difficult, though. Stopped there. Ughhhh.

[Sano]

Bear Ryoma - Funny AMV! :rofl:

Yeah Guts Rage is a great game. I loved how they got Michael Bell, Duke's voice from G.I. Joe for Guts. That was one of the best video game dubbing choices ever.

Great thing about it too is that is if you have all of the cut scenes save you can watch it all over again without playing the game again. It takes about an hour or so to watch it all.

I beat it on Easy, Normal and Hard back in the day. Zoddo had patterns if you played it long enough. Ditto with those roots. Back in those days everything was patterns, just learn what you have to do in all given situations and wash, rinse repeat, never give up and never surrender and sooner or later you get past everything (even if it might take a while).

With Zoddo you can also practice all you wanted playing the boss mode too where you can fight him on the fly. Though I'm not sure if that was one of the things you unlocked after beating hard mode or not, it's been a while.

I still have my save and have everything unlocked. One of the last things I got was the Puck minigame ha ha that is fun.

[The Granby]

Guts Rage > PS2 Berserk game


PS2 Berserk game was a HUGE LET DOWN. Also the voice actors totally sucked, it made me glad Berserk wasn't getting any more anime time. Not even the best Japanese VA could do this series justice.

Also, I would like to add my membership to the "Griffith is lil fucking bitch" club. I admit if you look it over he had his reasons, but he still deserves a big cold peice of Iron through his chest for doing it anyway.

Bear Ryoma, I don't think Caska is kushan cause she's like working in the fields of some village when that one lord gets her. Well.... maybe she's Kushan blood but not culture.

[BEWD]

I'd like to join in with the FUCK Griffith mob. I loved Femto's design in his first appearance, but when he raped a pregnant woman after sending his entire army to Hades in a demon buffet that pissed me off.

Anyways, puck's importance has seriously waned(I hate how he's become primarily comic relief, seeing as how he was Guts' first new friend after the events of the Eclipse). If he wasn't around, Guts would also likely be dead(Having a supply of Elf Powder is indispensable against apostles).

My favorite characters are Guts, Zodd(not Zoddo, though that was the name on a lot of earlier Berserk merchandise, just like how Guts used to be spelled like it was pronounced, Gatsu), and the Skull Knight.

@Gabriel: the site's become skullknight.net, and yes they still are doing translations.

Endless: I think Berserk came out in 1988 actually, if not the prototype.

One thing I really want to see in Berserk is the clarification of the King Gaiseric(who's so obviously Skull Knight it stinks like an anime con)story. Knowing the nature of the 4 "Angels"(CoughGodhandCough) who ended Gaiseric's empire, there is no way in hell that the story went down just like Charlotte recalled it.

[EndLeSS8]

Good stuff from everyone.

I never really liked Femto as a character.

To defend Griffith a bit :bgrin: :
I'm not saying the Eclipse was good in any way; it was evil, terrible, and disturbing. It was one of the only points in the manga where I needed to physically take a break from reading because it was "so much".

However, Griffith's as a character, is amazing. I think he is probably the most charismatic and romantic characters I have read in manga (or any story, for that matter). Not knowing his past, I bet almost everyone here would want to follow Griffith (if we were in BERSERK, of course).
He's a noble hero, divinity in human form. People are so overwhelmed with emotion when talking to him, they break down and cry. I like Griffith a lot because of his character, not because of his actions.

Also, in the state that he was in, he couldn't do anything at all, and that would of been the end of his dream.

If Guts was in Griffith's shoes....he would choose to die.
HOWEVER, IIRC, Guts himself did say: (one of the best quotes in BERSERK, I feel)

"You can't walk at all, if you are afraid of crushing the ants"


@BEWD: Thanks for the clarification. Also, I forgot whether Miura or Puck said it, but Miura keeps Puck in to help the manga from being too dark.

@sano: Yea...the roots kept killing me. Either flatout 1-hit death, or it glanced me, taking off 85% health, stunning Guts, and then getting comboed by the next root, killing me :annoy:


yea...I miss the old Band of the Hawk also..
Especially Pippin. He was awesome. He died a terrible and sad death. :sad:

Out of the new characters, my favorite is Shierke, then Irvine, the demon archer.

[SmrK]

To defend Griffith a bit :bgrin: :
I'm not saying the Eclipse was good in any way; it was evil, terrible, and disturbing. It was one of the only points in the manga where I needed to physically take a break from reading because it was "so much".


OK, you do realize that this makes you a wuss?:wgrin::wgrin: i kid, i kid
The Eclipse was awesome, the despair so clearly visible you felt it yourself... My favourite part so far (up to vol. 15). I understand Griffith, and would probably do the same in his situation. Before I get flamed with "You'd sacrifice your friends?!", I'd like to point out, that in the event of an Eclipse, me getting shed loads of power for the small price of the people around me, yes, I'd do it. But... since I really don't see that happening in the near future, I wouldn't get to upset about it.

Anyway, played the DC game myself. Never knew other people shared my feelings on those damn roots:arazz::rofl::rofl:

[DanSC]

this manga is the only one that i see all kinds of crazy stuffs beside the killing, like gay rape, pedo, demon rape and incest..btw i think its reasonable for Miura for being slow, there are so much stuffs to draw in this manga, all the details of blood and gore, so many horses, monsters and soldiers killing each other on battle field, this manga is always packed with actions..i wouldnt supprise if each chapter come out every 3 month if it was drawn by any other artist..

[Sano]

My favorite Berserk charactes are:

1. Guts
2. Guts
3. Guts
4. Guts
5. Guts

:rofl:

Serpico, Farnese, Corkus(whiney characters are a riot lol), Zoddo and the Skull Knight are all very cool don't get me wrong but it's all about Guts. Griffith I dunno, I hate him so much I like him. :tup:

Never played Sammy's Berserk game. I don't really bother importing a game when it follows the same story as a manga or an anime that I already read / watched. Now if it was a brand new story like the Rurouni Kenshin RPG of a few years back I most def would of imported.

I will say that if the game did come out in the US chances are I would of gotten it, I even signed the petition to bring it over but as you know those never work anyway.

Very glad to hear the game sucked. :rofl:

Most of the time when I import it's for a fighting game, playing any other kind of game in a language you can't understand comes with it's own set of headaches. Thank goodness for Gamefaqs though when it comes to getting through games like that.

Wow 30 more years of Berserk man when I'm in a retirement home if the orderly accidently gives my subscribed volume of Berserk to Grandma Snooty Snoot I will bop him in the back of his head with my walker. DON'T MESS WITH MY BERSERK! :rock:

[WasFemto]

I thought the Pirate arc was going to be long and stupid but it's short and awesome. Me happy.


Griffith > you

[G.O.T]

Griffith is the best villain ever. And I hate him for it. Fuck Griffith : (. He makes Dio Brando look like Captain America.

[soulbankai]

dammit!!!! I have to play the game again!!!! Its been so long!!!! But yeah, in 30 years, I'll be reading BERSERK, and then showing my grand kids how awesome manga is. And then when I go senile, I'll be screaming quotes from BERSERK swinging a "sword" (my cane) around wacking random people. And then get a heart attack from how gruesome a chapter is while I lay in my death bed.

I can't wait!!!!!!

[DS]

I actually like the PS2 Berserk game and the voice acting was good.

[JackTenrac!]

- Berserk's story of the Ugly Duckling will replace the current one. Bet it. Seriously, there are highlights that are worth mentioning here in the series.

[DarthTrey]

I enjoy Griffith's character a great deal.

Not in the manner that I like what he did, but they way Kentaro Miura presents him is just amazing.

As far as Gatts, well he's just a bad ass......that's all there is to it.....


EDIT:

For an example of what I mean, the last panel of Chapter 28 page 19

[Fin.K.M]

Yea, true.. true, my apologies for the ignorant post sir!
Then, it's settled! Berserk is still awesome. :cool:

Guts Rage > PS2 Berserk game
I haven't played either of them, but this thread is the only place I've ever seen people say anything good about Guts' Rage. Maybe it has a really deep combat system that only SRKers can appreciate. Or something. :rofl:

Can't say anything about the gameplay, but the PS2 game looks really nice at least. The counter animations during the boss fights look awesome.

[Ryad]

I just fear the day kentarou dies and leaves berserk hanging... hope that never happens...

[JackTenrac!]

Then, it's settled! Berserk is still awesome. :cool:


I haven't played either of them, but this thread is the only place I've ever seen people say anything good about Guts' Rage. Maybe it has a really deep combat system that only SRKers can appreciate. Or something. :rofl:

Can't say anything about the gameplay, but the PS2 game looks really nice at least. The counter animations during the boss fights look awesome.

= It really makes you think. However... how the hell can he move his left arm to pull off a right hook?

- ...wait. A Kenshin RPG?

[Ryad]

The dreamcast game was ok... completely new story...
the walls though... my god the walls... reaaaally pissed me off... if it werent for the walls...

PS2 game was toooo sick
You have to play it... although its japanese, it almost follows the manga 100% so you wont be totally lost... but it really is fun...

Oh not to mention the Game Soundtracks!!!
Amazing stuff! Keeps true to the berserk atmosphere...

Dont you want to try your hand at fighting these guys gatsu fights in the manga?

[The Granby]

^Not when it involves this much skill:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (use cannon) XXXXXXXXXXXXX (use puck) XXXXXXXXXXX *keep mashing X and moving toward new enemy*

Worst than dynasty warriors. Also Farnese, Isidro, and Pucks voice actor sucked big time.

Guts Rage actually required a level of skill and was really freakin hard too. Not to mention it was a new story and the english voice acting didn't suck (I was amazed). In fact the english was actually good (wtf).

[ShinjiGohan]

In all honesty, with the way Gatsu plows through the monsters in the manga, the PS2 game was a bit too hard at least compared to the manga.

[EndLeSS8]

hahahah the walls were your worst enemy in the DC game. I remember that :lol:



Also, if you really think about it... Griffith isn't exactly evil.
He is pursuing his dreams. The decision he made, that was an evil choice, however as a character, he is not evil.

[Sano]

There's 2 Kenshin RPGs. One that came out last year or so that is based on the Kyoto Arc for Japanese PS2. Never played it but the game featured Saito Hajime's seiyuu's final performance before he passed away (he is also in the director's cut of the Reflection OVA as Saito BTW) so RIP.

The one I'm talking about came out years earlier. It's a new story that can in no way fit into the manga, the cartoon world maybe if it takes place after the series, like where the movie might fit (but you are better off not thinking about that and treating it as its own thing lol). Anyway it takes place after Kyoto.

The game has two protagonists. If you choose the female you will encounter Aoshi during gameplay and get to control him for a bit. If you choose the male you get Saito instead. There are minor differences but the game is more or less the same no matter who you pick.

Kenshin, Sanosuke, Kaoru, Yahiko and your protagonist make up your squad. Combat is kind of like rock, paper scissors only the attacks are high, low and mid. I don't remember them all but I think low beats high, mid beats low and so on. It's turned based so you see some of the attacks your opponent is going to do but not all so you have to plan your attack. In this sense it retains the spirit of Rurouni Kenshin because as you know Kenshin could figure out opponent's moves before they did them, or at least figure out what they were thinking. You get a slew of super moves also, both Kenshin and Sanosuke have about 8 each. Yahiko can copy some of Kenshin's moves too if he sees them enough much like the series.

All of the seiyuus return, anime cut scenes and lots of new villains drawn in the style of the anime for you to fight along with very cool music, they even added lyrics to Kenshin's theme song from the Tokyo arc. There's a few nods to the series complete with dream sequences where you view storylines from the past like Udo Jine's fight with Kenshin and Sagara Sozo's death. Great game. It's only available for Japanese PS1 though. I think it's a lot of fun but it's only for the hardcore Kenshin fans. It's no Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy so don't look for that experience here. It does have a charm of its own for fans of the show though.

Oh yeah Guts always reminds me of Sagara Sanosuke because of his giant sword and attitude but the similarities end there. Wow what an on topic post. :rofl:

[G.O.T]

Saito Dies!!!!??? Hes My Favorite Character From Rurouni!!! Bullshit!!!

[Strider2k2]

Ahhh, Berserk...great anime/manga, indeed.

If you guys haven't seen it already, go check out Claymore. It's just like Berserk in terms of violence in a dark middle age fantasy setting.

[JackTenrac!]

- looks like someone's cashing in with Kenshin for the PS2 there. It resembles those Naruto games and looks uninspired gameplay wise. Still, the double-kodachi moves by Aoushi brings back memories.

- Saito...what a character. He left on a good note. Too bad he isn't in the rest of the post-Kyoto eps. I'm tempted to see what happens to him later on.

hahahah the walls were your worst enemy in the DC game. I remember that :lol:


- Took me 2 hours to realize that I couldn't use my sword there.


Also, if you really think about it... Griffith isn't exactly evil.
He is pursuing his dreams. The decision he made, that was an evil choice, however as a character, he is not evil.

- Before he took on treason or after he killed all the people Gatts cared about just to feed this ambition of his? When he was weak, he was good. During the battles before and after Zodd on his original squad, he was good. But to sacrifice good, honest (except Colkus), hard-working(except Colkus) soldiers that he treated as family and raped Caska, was nothing good or light. Slaughtering his original squad to recruit demonic forces that would only punish human beings is nothing different from the tactics of Kushan's evil budhist sorcery tricks. More on the vein of Naraku or Wesker if anything. Griffith could have done the same with his own current band at the time, but the question of when would have been on the mind of his.

Pursuing his ambitions, by killing those who see his dream and want it realized as badly as he does, doesn't compute into a good thing. That's a wrong that can't be turned into a right.

[Gasaraki]

Ahhh, Berserk...great anime/manga, indeed.

If you guys haven't seen it already, go check out Claymore. It's just like Berserk in terms of violence in a dark middle age fantasy setting.

Except the art is absolute shit and isn't anywhere near as good as Berserk, in any area =/

[Biolink]

Also, if you really think about it... Griffith isn't exactly evil.
He is pursuing his dreams. The decision he made, that was an evil choice, however as a character, he is not evil.

The dude knew what he was getting into.He's a sick selfish monster is what he is

[DS]

^Not when it involves this much skill:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (use cannon) XXXXXXXXXXXXX (use puck) XXXXXXXXXXX *keep mashing X and moving toward new enemy*

Worst than dynasty warriors. Also Farnese, Isidro, and Pucks voice actor sucked big time.

Guts Rage actually required a level of skill and was really freakin hard too. Not to mention it was a new story and the english voice acting didn't suck (I was amazed). In fact the english was actually good (wtf).

It was still a good game. Basic in nature, but name any other anime-based games that aren't as basic. Guts Rage didn't require much skill either. You just had to avoid using your sword in a closed area. Other than that, it was pretty cake from there on out.

I don't think the game was running for Jesus at any point.

And I'll take the Japanese voice acting over the shitty American voice actors. Both anime, and games.

In all honesty, with the way Gatsu plows through the monsters in the manga, the PS2 game was a bit too hard at least compared to the manga.

The PS2 Berserk game was easy.

[The Granby]

Umm did you play DC Guts Rage dude? That game was REALLY hard, and it wasn't just the corridors stopping your sword. Alot of parts of the game were rough. And the American voice actors for the game weren't bad at all, hell of a lot better then the voice actors they used for the English anime release (wtf is up with that.)

The animation and the whole swinging your sword for HOURS with little tact was what got to me in the PS2 game, it was swing till you got the brand charge and boom you get to kill one enemy instantly but your still pressing X for an hour till you need to use puck or your cannon recharges and blow fools (cause your bored of pressing X). Not to mention Guts is like a million times slower in that game than the fatest bum from Dynasty Warriors, makes a man lose his mind running through never ending levels of pressing X. Only thing that made it worth it was the end fight.

Anyhow screw anime games anyway, it's still all about the manga. Everyone, share your favorite moment of pwnage in Berserk Manga! Mine is...

When Guts first gets the berserker armor and chops his way out of an apostles belly only to get chomped on again by another apostle bitch. Which he then CUTS IN HALF while having HALF HIS BODY in his mouth. Guts told that bitch whose boss.

[DS]

Umm did you play DC Guts Rage dude? That game was REALLY hard, and it wasn't just the corridors stopping your sword.


Ummm....yeah, because unlike most of SRK, I actually play the game before commenting. Good mechanics, but still not that hard. It's still you vs. a wall at the end of the day.

[Akutabi Gamma]

Isidro's my fav. character in the series, I mean how can u deny the power of the IsiDropKick?!
He became my fav. character when he saved Caska from the crazed reliogous group during the eclipse, here I thought he was some dull side character, but damn he can fuck just about ANY main Shonen character there is.
....and again, IsiDropKick FTW!

[Ryad]

lol come on... at least you could combine x with a directional button to create different "combos"... not a great game on its own, but the nostalgic value, the beautiful music (you really should just dl the soundtracks if you didnt play the game, I listen to it + anime OST when I read the manga), and boss battles (very cinematic) made it worth going through it... and yes, although it was mindless cut and slash in the end but hey, what does gatsu do most of the time...

but yeah, Wall > Gatsu for DC...

[EndLeSS8]

- Before he took on treason or after he killed all the people Gatts cared about just to feed this ambition of his? When he was weak, he was good. During the battles before and after Zodd on his original squad, he was good. But to sacrifice good, honest (except Colkus), hard-working(except Colkus) soldiers that he treated as family and raped Caska, was nothing good or light. Slaughtering his original squad to recruit demonic forces that would only punish human beings is nothing different from the tactics of Kushan's evil budhist sorcery tricks. More on the vein of Naraku or Wesker if anything. Griffith could have done the same with his own current band at the time, but the question of when would have been on the mind of his.

Pursuing his ambitions, by killing those who see his dream and want it realized as badly as he does, doesn't compute into a good thing. That's a wrong that can't be turned into a right.

Evil choices does NOT make a character evil.
The concept of "good" and "evil" is very blurred in BERSERK. Griffith is the antagonist. Not evil. Griffith is not "good" on the same basis that Guts is not "good" nor "evil"
They are antagonist and protagonist with conflicting dreams.

You're mistaking Griffith's dream with ambition; there is a difference. Ambition is a simple want, while a true dream is on a much grander scale. For Griffith, the pursuit of his dream overrided EVERYTHING, and the SAME thing could be said about Guts.

Guts pursued his dream when he left Griffith. Although there was not direct consequences IMMEDIATELY, Guts ruined Griffith's plan, and in doing so, Guts started the ball rolling of how things became how they are now.
Guts leaving made Griffith rush into pursuing Charlotte, thus getting captured and tortured.

In addition, the original Band of the Hawk all chose to follow Griffith. Griffith KNEW from the VERY BEGINNING that he was above all other mortals; he did not consider anyone his equal, no one. The only person that spurred Griffith was Guts; Guts was the only person Griffith considered a friend. And with Guts leaving Band of the Hawk, Griffith lost one of his main things in his life, that was the first time another human being was important to him.

By what you said, Guts is guilty of exactly the same sins as Griffith. Guts is pursuing his dream (both before Band of the Hawk, and after) and he is killing people because they stand in his way.

If you talk about innocent characters, check Books 1-3 of BERSERK. In those 3 books alone, Guts ruined many innocent lives:

1. The young girl and her father in the caravan allowed Guts to stay with them. Because Gut's brand attracts demons, skeleton demons killed the father and the daughter. Both were innocent.
2. The ugly tortured guy with 1 eye. Guts watched him get executed, and didn't do anything about it.
3. Guts completely ruined the daughter of the Slug-King apostle. He tortured the Slug-King apostle in front of her, and threw her into an emotional hell.

There are more instances of this, but I don't know off the top of my head.

Gut's quote:

"If you're always worried about crushing the ants beneath you...you won't be able to walk."

People fail to realize that Guts and Griffith are more alike than they want to believe.



The dude knew what he was getting into.He's a sick selfish monster is what he is

Guts is almost as selfish as Griffith, and Guts is also pursuing his dreams. Please see my reply above.

[Red Exodus]

Honestly? Griffith strikes me as an antichrist type of character. He has some similarities to
what an anti-christ usually is like.

Excellent skills in politics (or just very very lucky to get by so many rules and regulations
like he has been doing), is followed and supported by many, has an unstoppable ability
to inspire servitude and devotion towards him EVEN when people first meet him...and
he's quite literally untouchable.

I doubt that's what the writer is going for, but he follows from what I can tell, the
archetype of an anti-christ character.

[G.O.T]

That maybe true about evil choices don't mean it's evil. But I'm pretty sure when Gutts said that he didn't mean destroy the people who meant anything to you, and what he did to Caska was out of line. Regardless of the dreams and all that bullshit every man has their destiny. Gutts was blessed despite all of that bad luck he had his whole life to make a choice, and be out of fate's path. Griffith is a hoe plain and simple. Ants, huh? yeah whatever.

[Biolink]

And what's wrong with Gutts pursuing his OWN dreams and having a mind of his own instead of the rest of the Band of the Hawk who pretty much blindly followed Griffith around,and probably would have sucked him off if he asked them to

Gutts said that he could never be a part of someone else's dream,and the fact that he heard Griffith spouting out that nonsense about a Friend is someone he considers his equal,and that he had none had to cement it for Gutts.

Gutts probably is selfish,but honestly I think Griffith was the one who sparked off the entire thing,and I really can't blame Gutts for wanting to leave him in the dust since he was really not the same person that he initially met and when they fought Zodd

[G.O.T]

After the nonsense Gutts has had to fight I would be selfish too. It was years before he started thinking for himself anyhow. Always listening to other people and never himself. He had Gambino telling what to do, then Gutts was lost for a lil while just being a mercenary to the highest payer, then Griffith told him what to do, and then Gutts finally realized that he also has a goal. Now it was time to go find what it was.

[Sano]

Saito Dies!!!!??? Hes My Favorite Character From Rurouni!!! Bullshit!!!

Just to be clear, the actor who provided his voice Hirotaka Suzuoki passed away, not the character. Not saying anyone is mixing that up but just in case. Anyway he died of lung cancer on July 2006. RIP. :sad:

[The Granby]

The moment Guts was born under a his dead mother strung up on a tree and the moment Griffith got the red behelit the ball was rolling.

Even Zodd commented on that as far as the tides of casuality would fate that Guts and the Band of the Hawk would get pwned if they stayed with Griffith.

My ultimate theory is that the way in which Guts was born had a huge effect on everything, including the Beast of Darkness within him. I think that alone gave him this "outisde of fate" effect on the whole story.

Even now I think Griffith knows that he eventually is going to have to do something about Guts because Guts lays outside of the story. Guts is an unknown variable that could possibly fuck up everything that he planned.

Just like Griffith had to kill Flora because she too was outside of the story

Like in most good stories, Giffith really is hard to tell weither he is truely evil, but he is nevertheless the villian of the story. Guts is even harder to tell that he is NOT EVIL (let alone "good"). And this isn't some Naruto shit either were someone is tortured because of some emotional problem and gives you glary eyes, Guts has really been fucked since day 1 of his life.


Though the latest stuff has been showing his good side mostly....

[EndLeSS8]

That maybe true about evil choices don't mean it's evil. But I'm pretty sure when Gutts said that he didn't mean destroy the people who meant anything to you, and what he did to Caska was out of line. Regardless of the dreams and all that bullshit every man has their destiny. Gutts was blessed despite all of that bad luck he had his whole life to make a choice, and be out of fate's path. Griffith is a hoe plain and simple. Ants, huh? yeah whatever.

The rape of Caska was a simple act of revenge.
Femto hurt one of the only things that was dear to Guts. Yes, that was evil. It was an act of revenge.
About, dreams, it's not "bullshit". Dreams are one of the most important factors in BERSERK.
Guts was not out of fate's path until after the Eclipse.
The quote about ants, it was Guts who said that, not Griffith. That is how Guts views bystanders/people.


And what's wrong with Gutts pursuing his OWN dreams and having a mind of his own instead of the rest of the Band of the Hawk who pretty much blindly followed Griffith around,and probably would have sucked him off if he asked them to

Gutts said that he could never be a part of someone else's dream,and the fact that he heard Griffith spouting out that nonsense about a Friend is someone he considers his equal,and that he had none had to cement it for Gutts.

Gutts probably is selfish,but honestly I think Griffith was the one who sparked off the entire thing,and I really can't blame Gutts for wanting to leave him in the dust since he was really not the same person that he initially met and when they fought Zodd

I could say the same thing, that is how Griffith views people, and he is pursuing his own dreams.




BERSERK's story and characters, and concept are a lot deeper than other stories out there. That is why I say the concept of "good" and "evil" is very blurred in BERSERK.

2 points that I wanted to bring up to both of you:

Do you guys consider Zoddo evil? If yes, why? If no, why?
I personally do not consider him evil at all, and I think most would agree with me.
However, on the same terms as Griffith and Guts, Zoddo is beyond other normal humans. He is looking for a challenge.
By normal standards, Zoddo would be considered evil; He lived for over 300 years, killed thousands and thousands of people, looking for a challenging fight. He has killed MUCH more people than Griffith. But even with the body count, I don't believe Zoddo is evil, out of his motives.

Previous story arc with Griffin/New Band of the Hawk vs Kushan army.
You can see here that Griffith is not evil, but he is doing everything possible to gain a country. Sometimes gaining a country is not by force.
Griffith and NBOTH saved Windham castle (I think it is Windham...either way it is a huge castle) and in doing so, Griffith saved thousands of lives. Without Griffith and his Band of the Hawk, everyone would of died.
Now, why did Griffith do this? Not because he cares about the lives of the people inside the castle, but because it is a step towards pursuing his dreams. Griffith will do whatever it takes to obtain his dream.

[ShinjiGohan]

Just to be clear, the actor who provided his voice Hirotaka Suzuoki passed away, not the character. Not saying anyone is mixing that up but just in case. Anyway he died of lung cancer on July 2006. RIP. :sad:

Well the character was based on a real life Saito, and that saito died a long time ago, so obviously the character saito died a long time ago (I think it was 1950s IIRC). But in short, RK doesn't go on long enough to watch saito die but he does die eventually.

[MAGUS1234]

Griffin is evil, Zodd is evil, I mean, rape, mass killing, total domination, these are evil traits. You can use whtever euphinism you want, but at the end of the day these people are sociopaths.

[JackTenrac!]

- Yeah, I saw the point there. It is a hard call in Berserk in terms of Zoddo. We know nothing about Zoddo besides that. He's more on the terms of as stated, so I wouldn't get into dissing him anymore on that field. In fact, I'm starting to like him. But rape and country domination through trickery and employment of the very same demons feared by the country you're trying to rule over? Saving lives still a trick by Griffith and his motives to do so is strictly out of his own ambitions.

- Sonia scares me even more. She even read Silke like Peanuts strips. You want to kick that football, Charlie Brown but I won't let you.

[Ryad]

I wouldnt say Zodd is evil in nature...

He is a warrior... and as far as I can remember, he has only killed other warriors, as far as I can remember, all in battlefields... however, his tendency to ravage those helpless terror-stricken soldiers make him ruthless... you can't really damn him into an "evil" category just cause he is a soldier with enormous strength/vitality...
Its not like he is going about killing innocent helpless villagers...

However, perhaps, by association he is evil... i.e by helping in furthering a bloody ambition, or by being a loyal (debatable) subordinate of an "evil" character... he is evil...

Still, I see him as more of a warrior than anything else...
and a legendary one at that

[G.O.T]

Zoddo is more the same as Gutts. Just Zoddo I think doesn't truly have a choice. He is an apostle.

[Red Exodus]

I tseems that no Apostle has a choice when it comes to Griffith. Even the Kushan emperor
was caving in to Griffith.

[JackTenrac!]

- Too much mercy there from Griffith: he should have finished him off during the kneeling. He clearly overpowers the Emperor. I doubt that he'll even recruit him onto the correct side.

[ShinjiGohan]

But to become an apostle you must have a behelit (SP?) and then sacrafice something important to you to gain the power of an apostle. At least that was the way it was protrayed in both the case of griffith and the slug king.

In regards to Gatsu being as cold hearted as griffith. I don't agree.

Situation 1). Gatsu was picked up by the girl and her grandfather and they were killed. They weren't killed because of Gatsu though. He told them that they'd be better off without him and they wouldn't give in. When the battle started, he told them to stay back, but they didn't follow his orders and died/became possessed and tried to kill him. Gatsu did everything that he could to save them short of telling them his whole life story (which they wouldn't believe anyway). So he at least gave them a quick redead. Also one of the last panels of that arc showed him crying.

Situation 2). A tortured fellow stole something from the slug king and got punished. What was he going to do? Expose everyone in the village to the fact that their king was an apostle during the execution? Had that happened, it'd likely be a repeat of what happened during the Snake apostle arc. Where nearly everyone in the city dies to the apostles wrath. And even though the guy died, when the slug king died too the tortured guy was one of the people to drag him to hell. So he got his revenge, far more so than had he been alive.

Situation 3). Slug kings daughter... come on now. Gatsu saves her life twice. It wasn't gatsus fault that the godhand replayed what happened when her father first became an apostle and killed his wife/her mother with mentally raped her. Then seeing that her own father was going to kill her just to get his powers back further hurt her. She may have been hard headed about whose fault it was (she'd rather live blindly than with the knowledge she gained), but Gatsu at least gave her a mission in life. A goal... a dream as it were.

Sure Gatsu is a badass, but it isn't the evil damning entity that Griffith was.

[The Granby]

I agree with ShinjiGohan, Guts is not even close to Griffith under it all. Especially if you are up to date with the series you can easily tell Guts is becoming more and more of a good guy, like FF4 Cecil status or something like that.

Gut's is like the ultimate anti-hero for most of Berserk. Yeah he has a lot of bad traits but it's more like destiny didn't shine very well on him. He really isn't evil more so just jaded from all the crap he has gone through. He is nevertheless taking the right action.

[EndLeSS8]

ShinjiGohan: Guts was crying after the slug king's daughter, not after the girl and her grandfather. Since it was the first real story arc, and the only time Guts has EVER cried, I think Miura was still establishing Guts as a character. That one instance of crying DEFINITELY does not define how Guts is. Guts has shown countless times, especially in the early stages of Band of the Hawk and post-Eclipse, that he can be just as ruthless, if not even more, than Griffith. Yet another good example of Guts killing innocents was when he stabbed that kid through the heart, when Griffith asked him to assassinate the king. Yes, it was an accident, but Guts didn't show remorse about it at all. He was more like "oh crap I made a mistake". There are more instances where Guts has royally screwed up innocent people's lives, but I'm not going to go check for the sake of checking.
However, I do agree that Guts is indeed softening up as a character. It is probably because he has a mentor relationship with Isidro.


I wanted to clarify, after thinking about it more.
I still don't think Griffith is evil. HOWEVER, I believe he is extremely selfish.

Also, I never stated that Guts was evil.

I stated that Griffith and Guts are more alike than most of you feel.
Both of them have strong dreams and ambition, and both of them were pursuing those dreams full force ahead.

It just turned out that both of the dreams were on conflicting crossroads.

Guts pursued his dreams with raw power, an iron will, and strength. You can see that the lesser members of the BOTH looked up to Guts a lot, and they were really proud of him as their commander. Guts is selfish, like Griffith, but not as selfish as Griffith. Apart from the time where Guts was emotionally hurt by Griffith ("friend as equal"), Guts has only relied on himself his whole life.
Griffith pursued his dreams with his charisma, his style, and his unnatural ability to draw people to him. You can see that by how attracted the members of BOTH are to him. Caska was in love with Griffith. Griffith is extremely selfish. Apart from the time where Griffith was hurt by Guts (when Guts defeated Griffith and walked away) Griffith has only relied on himself his whole life.

[G.O.T]

Cecil ftw.

[Biolink]

Yet another good example of Guts killing innocents was when he stabbed that kid through the heart, when Griffith asked him to assassinate the king. Yes, it was an accident, but Guts didn't show remorse about it at all. He was more like "oh crap I made a mistake".

Just to clarify this.

Guts did looked stunned when he accidentally stabbed through the kid,because he knew he fucked up.He even held the kids hand to assess what he had done,but by then it was already GGPO for the kid.

It wasn't just he stabbed though the kid,"oh shit" then ran away.

As luck would have it,Guards started swarming in so it wasn't like he could sit there brooding for too long.

[BEWD]

Endless, you also seem to be forgetting one very important thing. Griffith and Femto are two sides of the same coin. Griffith = Femto. It is the same mind, just in a new incarnation. The newly reincarnated Griffith is still Femto in mind, he's just taken on the classic Griffith's appearance. Griffith is completely evil ever since joining the Godhand. He only appears as a savior now to "lead the blind white sheep" in his hawk of light guise. We know better, that he is truly the Hawk of Darkness leading the apostles into the Age of Darkness.


Side note about Casca, she didn't love Griffith, she WORSHIPPED him. She elevated him to godlike status in her mind.

For Guts: Guts and Griffith parallels have been drawn ever since Femto's first appeareance in Vol.3. They are similar in actions and very few personal traits, which makes them such a dynamic, strongly coexisting, but also strongly contrasting pair. It may not make any sense, but it's the fact that Guts and Griffith are so similar that their differences truly show.

one more sidenote: Guts did indeed feel remore for killing Adonis, But like Biolink stated, the situation really didn't lend itself to him spending time there mourning.

[EndLeSS8]

Femto does not exist anymore.
The analogy is that Femto was the caterpillar, and Griffith reborn, is the butterfly.
Griffith became a part of Godhand to pursue his dream, and yes, to further that dream, he needed to be reborn. New Griffith is NOT Femto with a new skin, definitely not.


What you stated about Guts/Griffith is what I mean. However, I feel that most people that replied back to me believe that that Guts is "good" with a hint of "bad", while Griffith is simply "evil", and I don't believe that is true at all, nor do I feel that it is Miura's intention to have relatively static characters like that. What you said about them being so similar that their differences truly show, I completely agree with.

As for the murder of Adonis, ok. You guys are right.

Lady Charlotte: Your friends are probably following you because of this charm
Griffith: .....
Griffith: They are my good workers
Griffith: We have faced death many times. They are willing to sacrifice their lives for my dream
Griffith: But... for me... They are not my friends
Griffith: A friend must not dream with someone... and is a person who finds his own reasons to live...
Griffith: And if someone was to destroy his dream... He'll fight back even if that person is me
Griffith: A friend
Griffith: in my mind
Griffith: is someone equal to me


So from the very beginning, even before the Eclipse, Griffith knew he was above everyone else, and that Band of the Hawk was expendible.
Ruthless? Yes
Selfish? Very much so
Evil? Not in Griffith's eyes, because that is how he saw them. In addition, Griffith built up Band of the Hawk when they were regular mecenaries with no direction.

Griffith's thinking is beyond the concepts of "good" and "evil" because everything he does is to further his dream.
In our human eyes, we may see that his actions are evil.

A very crude example of it would be something like this:
Let's say that you have a pet chicken, that you raised your entire life. You have a lifelong dream and goal to start a farm.
Then World War 3 hits, and you have NOTHING to eat, nothing. You went without food for a week, and you're barely alive.
You have a choice to eat your pet chicken and live, to rebuild and start a farm. Or not eat your
pet chicken, and die.

Griffith chose to eat his pet chicken.




I bet you that was the first time that sentence has ever been typed out in the history of mankind :lol:

[EndLeSS8]

Oh, and the part where Guts brought up on the death of the little girl and grandfather, he shows ABSOLUTELY NO REMORSE WHATESOEVER afterwards.

Another point on how dark Guts is as the protagonist, is with Puck.
There have been many times when Gut's inner darkness, hatred, anger have erupted, and Puck is in extreme physical pain. Puck has stated that elves can feel other peoples emotions, depending on how strong it is. Whenever Gut's emotions came out, Puck was in physical agony.

[WasFemto]

I don't get how Femto =/= Griffith. :confused:

He is still part of the God Hand(the king no?), coming back in another form doesn't mean that he isn't. Hell in that form, Guts still calls him Griffith. The only other people to hear that name are the ones that escaped being sacrificed, and on of 'em can't even speak coherently.

Griffith is evil. He didn't show mercy to the Kushan king because he felt sorry him, probably just looking at him as another sacrifice. A soldier can't be a good tool if he's dead.



On another topic, what future story elements are looking forward to more than others? For me, I think Caska's health and the Berserker armor are ones I can't wait to see more of.

[Golden_Gunman]

Berserk is the greatest manga ever written, although at the moment I have to say it is rather tedious... it really needs to start picking up the pace and start answering at least some of the most important questions, such as the Skull Knight's history (even though we all know he is Gaeseric), The power of the Beherit's, etc. I am growing impatient to see Guts and co visit the Elf kindgom so that Casca can be healed.

Still, knowing Miura, however the story pans out, we know it will be amazing, he is just too good as a writer.

[Red Exodus]

Have they revealed what that Berserk Dog Demon is yet? I still don't quite know
what it is...is it supposed to be an incarnation of Gut's hatred and revenge towards
Griffith manifested as that thing?

[dialupsucky]

Guts deffintly isnt as cold hearted as griffin. Plus dont forget IIRC not that im the hugest berserk fan or anything but a lot of the earlier chapters should be taken with a grain of salt anyway besides the main gist of the stories. The dude didnt plan on it going for that long or no where he wanted to take the manga(hell he even took out that whole god thing in later versions of the volumes didnt he?)so yea... Plus in the begining I think he probably kinda had to make him a little more "emo" to say just to get the point accross and to get people intrested in his character in the first place.

[Sano]

Once again, do not put up links to sites where you can read Berserk for free here for reasons I stated earlier in this thread. Please try to make your arguments without resorting to this. When I see it, I'm getting rid of it. Any questions just PM me. Thanks and carry on.

[Biolink]

Have they revealed what that Berserk Dog Demon is yet? I still don't quite know
what it is...is it supposed to be an incarnation of Gut's hatred and revenge towards
Griffith manifested as that thing?

Yes,according to the people over at the Berserk forums,it is Guts's concentrated hatred manifested

[DarthTrey]

lalalala randomly typing a post as I am not fully caught up yet.....

only on chapter 61 >_<

On a side note the whole king wanting to bone his daughter was pretty fucked up ....... and Griffith totally called that shit lol.

[monbaby]

Guts realized his place in life is to be with and protect his woman...

Berserk = Caska...

[dialupsucky]

lalalala randomly typing a post as I am not fully caught up yet.....

only on chapter 61 >_<

On a side note the whole king wanting to bone his daughter was pretty fucked up ....... and Griffith totally called that shit lol.


If your old in berserk theres a 99% chance you ethier are a monster,fucked up, having sex with little girls, or all the above.

also theres a good chance your drawn the same exact same to.

[The Granby]

Guts realized his place in life is to be with and protect his woman...

Berserk = Caska...

Exactly, and I can't wait for her to come back into the story. All these old characters (though not major players in the old arc) coming back is giving me chills.

God Miura is such a damn good story-teller.

[DarthTrey]

God Miura is such a damn good story-teller.

QFMFT

[Biolink]

Old characters :confused:

The Band of the Hawk is dead.Other than Rickert and Caska who else could they bring back?

[Fin.K.M]

Probably old to some people, but here's a Berserk parody I just found (Beware, volume 22 spoilers): click (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/431/1176791967514hb2.jpg) .

[Biolink]

Probably old to some people, but here's a Berserk parody I just found (Beware, volume 22 spoilers): click (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/431/1176791967514hb2.jpg) .

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[G.O.T]

Tell me why that was throwed? Gatts as Ryu lollol

[JackTenrac!]

- ^ Sean is Rickart?! :rofl:

Old characters :confused:

The Band of the Hawk is dead.Other than Rickert and Caska who else could they bring back?


:sad: Colkus.

[Biolink]

- ^ Sean is Rickart?! :rofl:




:sad: Colkus.

Didn't Colkus/Corkus get trapped by a demon posing as a hot nude woman and get eaten alive?

[ShinjiGohan]

thats the way I've always wanted to go lol.

[DarthTrey]

thats the way I've always wanted to go lol.


I don't think being eaten would be very comfortable lol :sweat:

[gabrielzero]

The Berserk armor looks sick.

I can't wait to read about it.

[Biolink]

I slightly change my opinion about Griffith the more I think about it.

Do I think he is Evil/The Antagonist?Yes

Do I think he is a jackass that needs to be slaughtered?Yes

Do I think it is fucked up that Griffith led the Band of the Hawk along?Yes

Do I think his dream was Evil?No

In essence at the grit pertaining to real life,yes what he did was evil.

At the same time he never really considered any of the Hawk as equal(Maybe with the exception of Gutts),and nothing more than tools to help his fucked up dream become reality.It's almost no different than a King sending soldiers to fight other soldiers,and at the same time knowing that many of them won't come back.They were just pawns to him nothing more.It was the Band of the Hawk that had an emotional attachment to Griffith,but past a certain point,he stopped caring all together.Gutts threw him off the path a little bit,but after the events that led into him becoming Femto,he finally got back on his path.

[EndLeSS8]

Probably old to some people, but here's a Berserk parody I just found (Beware, volume 22 spoilers): click (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/431/1176791967514hb2.jpg) .

Awesome.

Who made that, btw?

[Fin.K.M]

Awesome.

Who made that, btw?
I wish I knew. I saw it posted on another forum but the poster didn't say where he got it from.

[DarthTrey]

BLAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have finally caught up on the manga, when do new issues generally come out?

[Sano]

BLAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have finally caught up on the manga, when do new issues generally come out?

In the US a book comes out every 3 months or so. In Japan it's something like 4 to 5, course there it's newer content. Don't know about the serialization in Young Animal but those tend to catch updates every one to two weeks or so.

[The Granby]

Berserk chapter 291 was released in Japan guys!

Go get that shit, all hail Miura! :pray:

[Biolink]

Anybody look familiar?

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5985/39av9.jpg

[The Granby]

lol what is that supposed to be griffth?

Speaking of that bum it looks like it's getting time for a showdown between him and ganishika!

:nunchuck:

[BEWD]

Ganishka's playing for keeps now >_> feel sorry for his patrolmen

[Sano]

Dark Horse drops Berserk volume 20 this Thursday. :tup:

[Sano]

Currently in the middle of reading volume 20 man Father Mozgus and his posse rules! Loving Luca, the prostitute with the heart of gold and now she's hanging with Skullknight! Dang man Berserk is too awesome for words...

If there are any PS3 owners around here you can download this kick ass Berserk Theme for free! It has three different backgrounds that rotate. Yeah it only took a few weeks for someone to get around to doing a Berserk one so say word everyone loves Guts! :lovin:

http://www.allps3themes.com/2007/11/29/berserk/

[The Granby]

Some people didn't like Luca but I thought she was an excelletn character and serves the roll of a side character perfectly.

I wish Miura would release the next Japan release date. I'm dying of anticipation right here.

[JackTenrac!]

Anybody look familiar?

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5985/39av9.jpg

Judeau!

- Kushan's getting red. This I gotta see.

[exarchezekiel]

Berserk has got to be the best manga/anime I've read in my life. It's had a huge impact on my life and made me see things from a different point of view.I own the series and I am slowly buying the amazing as well as overpriced manga from darkhorse. I'm also up to date but there's a few things I missed nothing major just a few fights here and there.

Favorite Characters...
1.Guts
2.Griffith
3.Zodd
4. The Beast of darkness
5. Caska

I believe both the ps2 and DC games are both good with there pros and cons.

Ps2: Berserk Millineum falcon arc the holy evil war

+ Great controls with Guts as well as a nice inventory also a mini level up part between each stage.
+ The counters and mini cut scenes are spectacular
+ Beautiful music

- To easy hate to say it but I beat this game in three days flat.
- Kinda gets repetitive once you beat it but hey it's a hack N slash so waddya expect.
- Short nuff said....

DC: Berserk Gut's rage

+ A wonderful hack and slash with a challenge to it unlike it's ps2 counterpart
+ It's a part in the story! :chat:
+ Again beautiful music

- Some parts are just a lil to hard...
- Repetitive..
- Roots...wtf...:arazz:

I liked the voice acting in both games thought they were great.

[gabrielzero]

I hope they make another Berserk game. I remember signing the petition to bring over here. (The PS2 one)

The DC version was kinda hard at some parts , especially Hard mode made me want to break my controller. The roots were annoying no matter which mode you played.

[fistoftheryustar]

Sorry if this has been said recently....where is the manga up to now?

I heard its in its 50's in terms of volume and the guy who created berserk has had other mangas lasting to 100 volumes.



oh and....


does anyone replay that vicious rape scene in their head from berserk's eyes? there are so many coulda shoulda wouldas involved with that infamous scene. also, after its all said and done, he barely replays it through as if nothing had happened and that he just wants "vengence." they make him so angry and screamy, that when it actually happened, his reaction didnt seem to fit what was going on. they drew him more confused than anything.

[exarchezekiel]

IT's up to issue 33 so far

[The Granby]

^What he said

Series has almost been going on since I was born and it is Miura's longest and primary manga unless I'm wrong.

[Akutabi Gamma]

This forum lacks Isidro love

[exarchezekiel]

This forum lacks Isidro love

Lolz so true! He's so funny but so dumb another comic relief character.

Granby- Yeah I believe it is his Primary Manga cause ever since Berserk I haven't seen or heard of anything else.

[MUSOLINI]

for the people giving berserk a shot, you should also check out blade of the immortal and/or vagabond. especially blade of the immortal, its one of my all time favos, along with berserk.

[Biolink]

How is The Beast of Darkness any different from Gutts?

Does it put Gutts on the level of the 4 God Demons?

[exarchezekiel]

Biolink- Actually it's more like his inner demon of his evil side of his hatred,rage and dark emotions where it basically takes over and unleashes its rage on everything in sight. For instance when Guts found Caska when she was about to get raped by a band of thieves it began toying with his mind saying that she's nothing and to basically rape her and kill her for his own pleasure. Like I said it's inner demon. I'm not sure it does anything to increase his power minus when the Berserkerz armor goes into the Wolf mode than I believe he gains some power but I doubt it's up to God hand level Apostle level yes as we know from when he was able to deal a mighty blow on Grunbeld and leaving a scar.

[Sano]

Berserk #21 arrives in comic shops in the US next Wednesday! :clap:

It had to happen sooner or later lol! In the latest issue of Anime Insider magazine they did a casting call for Berserk, which Hollywood actors they would have play the parts of the characters in a live actin rendition of Berserk if it was in their power. Anime Insider is run by Wizard magazine and they have equally um... bizarre let's say... casting calls for Marvel and DC comic book characters lol! Anyway here are their picks!

Guts - Bruce Campbell (Ash of the Evil Dead movies, tortures Peter Parker in all of the Spider-Man movies lol)

http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Bruce+Campbell+&x=8&y=5

Griffith - Paul Bettany (The Albino from The Da Vinci Code)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0079273/

Caska - Rosario Dawson (Clerks II, Sin City)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0206257/

Judeau - Rupert Grint (Ron Weasley from the Harry Potter movies)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0342488/

Charlotte - Audrey Tautou (Sophie in The Da Vinci Code)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0851582/

Me personally I would love to see Russell Crowe (Gladiator) as Guts and Halle Berry (Storm in X-Men) as Caska and I don't really care about anyone else. Well I dunno, maybe I'm just as bad as Anime Insider. :rofl: I like Bruce Campbell but he's getting up there in age, maybe a few years ago he could of pulled it off. Don't have too many problems with Paul Bettany and Rupert Grint I guess and I really don't care who would play Princess Charlotte. But that's just me...

[PsychoSquall]

I remember reading an interview with the Berserk author. He said that after he created Guts, he went and saw the movie Evil Dead 2 starring Bruce Campbell. He saw that Bruce's character Ash carried a big gun, and had a chainsaw blade for a hand. The author thought, oh shit, his character carried a big blade, and had a gun for a hand! lol

[BEWD]

How is The Beast of Darkness any different from Gutts?

Does it put Gutts on the level of the 4 God Demons?

No difference, the Beast is merely the personification of all of Guts' dark qualities, they are two sides of the same coin. It doesn't give him any special powers, but without these dark qualities(bloodlust, hate and rage) it can be argued that Guts would not have become the fearsome warrior he is.

Usually in psychology, Wolves represent repressed wild urges, in guts' case his overwhelming desire to kill Griffith(which Casca makes exceedingly harder) and his own suicidal nature(putting himself in these punishing, deadly positions to avenge his comrades and his own guilt)

[JackTenrac!]

Berserk
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0206257/

Judeau - Rupert Grint (Ron Weasley from the Harry Potter movies)


...that won't work.

[Ex0dUs27]

an awesome, gritty, gory story with excellent char development and plot. I love this series.

[Ryad]

Berserk #21 arrives in comic shops in the US next Wednesday! :clap:

It had to happen sooner or later lol! In the latest issue of Anime Insider magazine they did a casting call for Berserk, which Hollywood actors they would have play the parts of the characters in a live actin rendition of Berserk if it was in their power. Anime Insider is run by Wizard magazine and they have equally um... bizarre let's say... casting calls for Marvel and DC comic book characters lol! Anyway here are their picks!

Guts - Bruce Campbell (Ash of the Evil Dead movies, tortures Peter Parker in all of the Spider-Man movies lol)

http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Bruce+Campbell+&x=8&y=5

Griffith - Paul Bettany (The Albino from The Da Vinci Code)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0079273/

Caska - Rosario Dawson (Clerks II, Sin City)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0206257/

Judeau - Rupert Grint (Ron Weasley from the Harry Potter movies)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0342488/

Charlotte - Audrey Tautou (Sophie in The Da Vinci Code)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0851582/

Me personally I would love to see Russell Crowe (Gladiator) as Guts and Halle Berry (Storm in X-Men) as Caska and I don't really care about anyone else. Well I dunno, maybe I'm just as bad as Anime Insider. :rofl: I like Bruce Campbell but he's getting up there in age, maybe a few years ago he could of pulled it off. Don't have too many problems with Paul Bettany and Rupert Grint I guess and I really don't care who would play Princess Charlotte. But that's just me...

Oh God forgive these sinners...

[Sano]

Oh God forgive these sinners...

Mozgus is that you? :rofl:

Reading 21 now. LOL at Guts telling Mozgus to fly his ass back to heaven. Great fight! :tup:

[blazeu25]

when r they gona finish this series.its been goin on for like 17 yrs now.i wana see gutz and femeto kill each other alrighty

[Ex0dUs27]

the troll extermination chapters (when they save that town) is awesome. lol troll rape

[exarchezekiel]

when r they gona finish this series.its been goin on for like 17 yrs now.i wana see gutz and femeto kill each other alrighty

That probably won't happen for a long time. Miura said himself "I want Berserk to be a 100+ Manga." so I"m guessing that won't happen till a long fucking time. But I can imagine that it'll happen sometime after Guts finally reaches Elfhelm.

[blackartsviper]

Berserk is one freaky fucking Manga...and I love it for that. Great actions, great art, great character development, and some of the stories are truly horrifying. However, I'm of the belief that if their was a movie that was faithfully based off of this manga it would get a hard R rating or even NC-17 because all of the sex and violence. There is a reason why the anime version was never played on Adult Swim (the finale alone would have been subjected to HUGE edits in order to have been viewed.) However, the manga is dope and the only comic I put ahead of it is Deathnote.

That probably won't happen for a long time. Miura said himself "I want Berserk to be a 100+ Manga." so I"m guessing that won't happen till a long fucking time. But I can imagine that it'll happen sometime after Guts finally reaches Elfhelm.

So I see he is making his own version of Cerebus eh?

[exarchezekiel]

Blackartsviper- lol I guess.*shrugs* But with how much Miura wants to put in this amazing series I'm sure that it'll be somewhere around there.

[BEWD]

Blackartsviper- lol I guess.*shrugs* But with how much Miura wants to put in this amazing series I'm sure that it'll be somewhere around there.

Don't forget, Griff has Super-Nish to deal with first :rofl:

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

Seen the anime awhile back, just picked up the manga recently.

Right off the bat you notice differences between the two... I only have volume 1 so far though. It's my past time for when I'm bored of studying at the library and don't want to go home because I'll just slack.

[Evil Morrigan]

So, does anybody know when the next chapter is coming? The last Chapter I read was 292.

[BEWD]

So, does anybody know when the next chapter is coming? The last Chapter I read was 292.

No idea when the next episode is coming out, I hear it wasn't in this YA =/, so probably another 2-4 weeks:sad:

edit: Was playing Mechquest, and almost lmao when I encountered a pc named Casca as soon as I left this thread xD.

[EndLeSS8]

That probably won't happen for a long time. Miura said himself "I want Berserk to be a 100+ Manga." so I"m guessing that won't happen till a long fucking time. But I can imagine that it'll happen sometime after Guts finally reaches Elfhelm.

When did Miura say that?

Because I don't believe you.

[exarchezekiel]

Endless8- He said this a long time ago in an interview,I was like wtf wow your kidding me? I'll look into it and see if I can link that up(At skool right now)...If memory serves it should be on Skullknight.

Shinkuu Tatsumaki- Yeah the difference between the two is very drastic and in my opinion the Manga is just more amazing than the anime, more characteres,more detail violence wise and in other scenes...:wink: also answers alot of questions that the anime had. I did the same as you pick up the manga after the anime and I think it's a perfectly fine way to do it and made the Berserk experience ten times more fun! :woot:

BEWD- LOL XD a mech named Caska? May god have mercy on that poor mech! LOL Mozgus ranting For the lawl! :rofl:

also what did you mean by super-nish? Kinda lost me lol :wonder:

[BEWD]

Ganishka is the emperor of the Kushan Army, him and Griffith are on a direct collision course, most recently, Ganishka jumped into that Apostle made machine to induce a nightmarish transformation, we don't know what it looks like yet, but if the dreams the kid's had was any instance, it will be a massive form with many arms, reminiscent of a Hindu deity.

[blackartsviper]

Man after reading volumes 15 and 16 again I'm hoping some parent/fundie group won't find Berserk in book stores and condemn it and point how they are ruining america's children because "Comics a