Characters?

[sergio.]

Q would rock but it most likely won't happen :(

[urienMETALdick]

Urien is a must have. He must also have Aegis Reflector again.

[The_Trigger]

Gimme:

Dan as a legitimate character.
Dhalsim
Sakura (Older)
Sagat

[F.Y.C.N.]

this thread needs more Alex

[Infernoman]

this thread needs more Alex

FUCK YES!!! and this time he'll be top tier! (a man can dream)

[Spectre7]

Oro with both hands should be the final boss.

[Murt!]

I was hoping they'd kill off that dickhead Ken but I guess not from the trailer

They should at least give Ryu some of Oro's moves.

[Commander]

M.Bison, the titles gotta have Bison again. I don't care if he is supposed to be "dead" in the storyline or whatever.

He can then proceed to replace that pansy, gill, as the villain :lovin:

Other than him, Sakura and Guy.

Agreed with the Bison part. There aren't any real bad guys in SF without him. Akuma is just a pure fighter and Gill is just deluded. Plus Bison's the original bad guy. And whatever happened between him and Rose? That storyline should be concluded... with Bison winning, of course.

[Gutter Trash]

me want:
Ryu, Ken, Retsu, Geki, Joe, Mike.. he's Balrog!), Lee, Gen, Eagle, Birdie, Adon, Sagat, E.Honda, Blanka, Chun-Li, Guile, Dhalsim, Zangief, Balrog, Vega, M.Bison, Cammy, Dee-Jay, Fei Long, T.Hawk, Alex, Dudley, Elena, Ibuki, Hugo, Makoto

Ryu and Ken should be the only characters permitted from saying and doing Hadoken, Shoryuken, and that other one.

[MGS]

rock howard

[AneurysmX]

The floating cat in my avatar

[subaru84]

hmm...i would like that too...but if the game is indeed in the furture...Sakura would have to have a new look...because she would be out of school by this time....

I am not saying it has to be a white Gi *cough* Makoto *cough* but i would just love to finally see her again grown up and ready to finally prove that she is the best street fighter...and seeing her finally preform a true Shoryuken and Hadouken would be everything i hope for

plus the capcom guys would probably give her a reveling costume anyway...:wink:

You DO realise, don't you, that if SF4 follows tradition and takes place in the year that the game is released, Sakura will be around 35-40 o_O

But yes. More Sakura-chan.

[KORYNTHYAN]

Sheng Long. (http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9162/shenglongegmapril1ts.jpg)

~K.

[DagV]

i agree with Alex. of course Ryu , Ken , Chun Li , Akuma , Yun.


how about capcom buying som arika originated Sf charachters

Garuda and Skullomania !

[alien nose job]

Oro should return, with an improved fighting style... if he just had both his arms, it may not be that great as it is a big part of what makes him original, but maybe he could pull out his second arm for additional blows very fast in the middle of combos, would be cool... a pain to animate, but cool :wink:

And Oro should have had some influence over Ryu's style.
A one armed Ryu doesn't sound like a good idea to me, but maybe ryu could summon tengu stones on some of his moves, like in a fluid tatsu move, some stones could come in fast and add some hits...
Maybe his shoryuken should spin a bit like oro's (without being the same)...
And, maybe ryu mastering the chiken move would be cool... (I know it sounds weird at first)
But he has to make it in his own way... Oro is short and very skinny while Ryu has gotten more and more massive, so, while still a fast move, Ryu's chiken should be heavier, landing should be something... as weird as it sounds... a ryu with a shoto style mastering a chiken combo could be nice.

That would help having Ken and Ryu steer clear from each other, while keeping the original shoto spirit...
Just thoughts... but in SF3 Ken got a lot more powerfull than Ryu, since everyone will get a bit more powerful that may help keeping the balance.

[kitzkozan]

Despite all my love for SF3,I hope the cast of SF IV is not loaded with freaks. :rolleyes: Having one or two blanka type character is more than enough.

What I want from SF 4 is a truly international cast,with various martial arts from around the world,but adapted for the Street fighter world.

Every SF game has characters that bring new style of martial arts,but I want to see them all under one game(somewhat similar to Tekken which represent various fort of martial arts with the character cast).

Of course,I suppose some characters are now so strongly part of the SF mytho that they cannot be excluded like Akuma or Chun-Li,but here hoping Mr. Bison is not in it. :sweat:

[DevilJin 01]

There will be characters in this game.

[Akiba]

hmm...i would like that too...but if the game is indeed in the furture...Sakura would have to have a new look...because she would be out of school by this time....

I am not saying it has to be a white Gi *cough* Makoto *cough* but i would just love to finally see her again grown up and ready to finally prove that she is the best street fighter...and seeing her finally preform a true Shoryuken and Hadouken would be everything i hope for

plus the capcom guys would probably give her a reveling costume anyway...:wink:

You DO realise, don't you, that if SF4 follows tradition and takes place in the year that the game is released, Sakura will be around 35-40 o_O

But yes. More Sakura-chan.

Haha... i am not sure if that is correct my friend...because wouldn't Ryu be like 70?
lol

Anyway...the only main problem about Sakura coming back is trying to figure out just how she would look like after all these years of training and traveling

It really depends on what route she takes in her life...if she finally catch up with ryu and trained with him...She would look like Ryu....with a white Gi and maybe long hair

But if she has just been traveling and fighting all over the place...then i have no idea how she would look like

But one thing is for sure...she will have at least a headband:wink:

[subaru84]

Haha... i am not sure if that is correct my friend...because wouldn't Ryu be like 70?
lol

Anyway...the only main problem about Sakura coming back is trying to figure out just how she would look like after all these years of training and traveling

It really depends on what route she takes in her life...if she finally catch up with ryu and trained with him...She would look like Ryu....with a white Gi and maybe long hair

But if she has just been traveling and fighting all over the place...then i have no idea how she would look like

But one thing is for sure...she will have at least a headband:wink:

According to the Street Fighter Canon guide, Sakura was around 16-18 in Alpha 3, which took place in 1990. Fast forward NINETEEN years to 2009, which is probably when we're likely to see this game, that makes Sakura about 35-37. According to the same guide, Ryu is about five years older than Sakura.

Personally, if I were designing the cast for this game: Sakura keeps her gloves, headband and her short hair. She still adheres to her white and blue color scheme, with a white tanktop and blue trackpants (like what you see in the SF Legends comic). Red Converse sneakers as usual. I just don't see here in a gi to be honest, that borders on an Makoto-like appearance. She's the cute tomboy, not the groin-punching-psycho-bitch ^_^

[Rhio2k]

Ah, so this is all supposition. Waste of energy. We don't know anything beyond Ken and Ryu...and that could change at any time.

[Akiba]

According to the Street Fighter Canon guide, Sakura was around 16-18 in Alpha 3, which took place in 1990. Fast forward NINETEEN years to 2009, which is probably when we're likely to see this game, that makes Sakura about 35-37. According to the same guide, Ryu is about five years older than Sakura.

Personally, if I were designing the cast for this game: Sakura keeps her gloves, headband and her short hair. She still adheres to her white and blue color scheme, with a white tanktop and blue trackpants (like what you see in the SF Legends comic). Red Converse sneakers as usual. I just don't see here in a gi to be honest, that borders on an Makoto-like appearance. She's the cute tomboy, not the groin-punching-psycho-bitch ^_^

Wow...thx for the info...now i have a even better idea..but still 37? wow...

But i am not sure if i like the whole tanktop and blue trackpants idea....but i do agree that the white Gi is border lining Makoto...but it would be funny to see her wearing a white gi with Red Converses lol...since i don't think she could get used to walking around bare foot... i mean seriously that hurts...

Ah, so this is all supposition. Waste of energy. We don't know anything beyond Ken and Ryu...and that could change at any time.

Of course we all know that...but its fun to speculate and talk about it:wink:

[Tigerboi]

I'd hate to see any character not make it save for a few. Which are:

Karin
Remy (give me my pilots back, please)
Birdie
Juli
Juni
Twelve

I'd love to see everyone come back other than them (i just don't care about the previous named characters) but of course we most likely can't have them all. so...


Characters I would have a fangasm if returned:

Sakura (filled out and older)
Ibuki
Alex
The twins.
R. mika.
Makoto
Charlie (is he dead or not!?)
Sean (older and more skilled)
Q.
All the final fight characters, including Maki. Perhaps poison as her own separate playable.
Eagle.
Blanka.
Adon ( for some reason)
Dudely
Fei Long
Oro

lastly....

Evil ryu

New character ideas:

a drunken kung fu character would be pimp.
Ibuki's male companion.
Mel. (who knows.)

[DevilJin 01]

I'd hate to see any character not make it save for a few. Which are:

Karin
Remy (give me my pilots back, please)
Birdie
Juli
Juni
Twelve

I'd love to see everyone come back other than them (i just don't care about the previous named characters) but of course we most likely can't have them all. so...


Characters I would have a fangasm if returned:

Sakura (filled out and older)
Ibuki
Alex
The twins.
R. mika.
Makoto
Charlie (is he dead or not!?)
Sean (older and more skilled)
Q.
All the final fight characters, including Maki. Perhaps poison as her own separate playable.
Eagle.
Blanka.
Adon ( for some reason)
Dudely
Fei Long
Oro

lastly....

Evil ryu

New character ideas:

a drunken kung fu character would be pimp.
Ibuki's male companion.
Mel. (who knows.)

Just Ibuki.

[bafiaris13]

Dee-Jay was cool i ld like to see him back..

the flying dictator and Urien would be a nice couple..who will take over the world?? lol

and Q of course so we could see at last who is he under that iron mask..

and if there's sakura in..they must make her hot..really hot..

[Tigerboi]

Just Ibuki.

If she ended up having a body type like chun over the years, I'd be fine if the roster was like this:

boss: shin Akuma.

Normals:
Ryu
Ken
Chun
Akuma
DD cup Ibuki.



And I guess Ryu, Ken, Akuma and Chun are no brainers. They've made more appearances than anybody.

[KORYNTHYAN]

Since I don't have to worry about Ryu or Ken, I most definitely wanted to
see Sagat and Gouki come back. They were truly the most badass bosses
in this game...even still I think.

~K.

[Aremsi]

Totally forgot, Guile is a must. The american badass.

[Terry_nb]

I agree, Sagat and Akuma would be very nice. However an old hermit Ryu would make such a fine Boss, but I doubt it'll happen ... ever.

Guy, exspecially Guy and Cody from Final fight would be great, too.

[4neqs]

Ingrid. I'd definitely like to see the other two CFAS designs that that didn't make it to any game. Or heck, the other non-original members of the CFAS roster.

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

No love for Elena? This makes me a sad, sad loli. :sad:
Don't worry Elena. If nothing else, you're still MY favorite SF character! :lovin:

[4neqs]

No love for Elena?

Many are still traumatized by her 3s song. :looney:

[CoolWater]

I wouldnt mind seeing some of the unique characters from each of the generations as a way to spice it up a bit with maybe 3 new characters, one of which is a boss and, thus, unplayable.

SF1: Ryu, Ken
SF2WW: Dhalsim
SF2CE: NONE!
SF2ST: Dee Jay, T.Hawk (should play like Honda), fei long (Yun/Yang prototype?)
Alpha: Adon, Guy
A2: NONE!
A3: Cody
SF3: Sean (WTF happened after 2i, did he lose interest in winning?), Alex, Elena
2i: Dudley
3s:Makoto, Q

I wouldnt mind Hokuto, but shes in EX so thats probably not gonna happen. And I would say Mike Haggar, but no.

Of course, I have no influence over who Capcom selects, I think each of these characters adds unique gameplay as well as having diffuse styles. Characters with asterix would need some basic move changes, but their character designs are good IMO.

[squirtle.squad]

I wouldnt mind seeing some of the unique characters from each of the generations as a way to spice it up a bit with maybe 3 new characters, one of which is a boss and, thus, unplayable.

SF1: Ryu, Ken
SF2WW: Dhalsim
SF2CE: NONE!
SF2ST: Dee Jay, T.Hawk (should play like Honda), fei long (Yun/Yang prototype?)
Alpha: Adon, Guy
A2: NONE!
A3: Cody
SF3: Sean (WTF happened after 2i, did he lose interest in winning?), Alex, Elena
2i: Dudley
3s:Makoto, Q

I wouldnt mind Hokuto, but shes in EX so thats probably not gonna happen. And I would say Mike Haggar, but no.

Of course, I have no influence over who Capcom selects, I think each of these characters adds unique gameplay as well as having diffuse styles. Characters with asterix would need some basic move changes, but their character designs are good IMO.

but if this game turns out to be cell shaded with 3d environments, EX characters would be perfect

[Diek Stiekem]

M.Bison, the titles gotta have Bison again. I don't care if he is supposed to be "dead" in the storyline or whatever.

He can then proceed to replace that pansy, gill, as the villain :lovin:


Amen, no denying classic boss characters.

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

Many are still traumatized by her 3s song. :looney:

I love that song! ...But I think I'm the only one.

[4Play]

I love that song too.

Yet she annoys me sometimes.

SHALL WE DANCE?

No. *walks away from game*

[Slartibartfast]

Everyone from every game.

Plus Gene.

[Sano]

Ingrid. I'd definitely like to see the other two CFAS designs that that didn't make it to any game. Or heck, the other non-original members of the CFAS roster.

After SFA3 Max Ingrid time travels to the year 201X. So maybe Street Fighter 5 in 2019 she can return. :rofl:

Besides Ingrid knocks out Chun-Li's chance to be the strongest woman in the world with her being a god and all, she has to be absent just like Rose. Unless they give Chun-Li a major power boost or something....

[Zazzarius]

Besides Ingrid knocks out Chun-Li's chance to be the strongest woman in the world with her being a god and all.

Ingrid having god hax most certainly knocks her out of the competition for strongest NORMAL woman in the world.

And besides most men are powerless against Chun's hips anyway. Raaawr. :lovin:

[Sano]

Ingrid having god hax most certainly knocks her out of the competition for strongest NORMAL woman in the world.



Hey she doesn't change her quote to say 'Normal' when she's up against them MUTIES in the Marvel games so she can't do it in SF4. :looney:

But yeah arguably Ingrid is not of this world anyway. The time travel thing to 201X makes it iffy storyline-wise, if any of her story happens at all that is. Shrug, Capcom should just lend Sakura, Karin and Ingrid to Arcana Heart and call it a day. :rofl:

[white shadow]

I also hope for at least 5 brand spanking new characters.

[oldboy]

I was hoping for older Ryu and really old Gouki, but looks like that ain't happenin'. As well, it'd be nice to have Sagat (older) and Sakura (also older and more disciplined). I also would've enjoyed having Sakura taking Ryu's spot as the main character.

[Frantastic23]

Yun plz :lovin:

[Akiba]

I was hoping for older Ryu and really old Gouki, but looks like that ain't happenin'. As well, it'd be nice to have Sagat (older) and Sakura (also older and more disciplined). I also would've enjoyed having Sakura taking Ryu's spot as the main character.

Sakura taking the spot as the main character...you are so speaking my language friend :wgrin:

OMG dood... you might have figured out the whole plot....thats why at the official website its says "New Beginning"

[Lyu]

I was hoping for older Ryu and really old Gouki, but looks like that ain't happenin'. As well, it'd be nice to have Sagat (older) and Sakura (also older and more disciplined). I also would've enjoyed having Sakura taking Ryu's spot as the main character.

How would you really be able to make Sagat look older though, and please don't say "give him a beard" as that seems to be the cliche response around here when making the male characters look older.

IIRC Sagat was already fairly old by SF2, but just doesn't show his age. Same goes for Dhalsim.

I imagine the reason Ryu and Ken don't look any different is because they want to keep their trademark looks.

While the AOF/FF/KOF, Tekken, Soul Calibur, and MK series tend to try and make their characters look older or redesign them from game to game I wonder if SF will ever try and go that route, instead of just keeping their most well known looks for the characters. I noticed the Samurai Shodown series is alot like that with the character designs praticaly never changing expcept for the older Haomaru in the Warriors Rage PS1 game.

Sakura taking the spot as the main character...you are so speaking my language friend

OMG dood... you might have figured out the whole plot....thats why at the official website its says "New Beginning"

IIRC the main character is always an all new character in the tournament based games. SF1-SF3.

[Zero619]

Ingrid. I'd definitely like to see the other two CFAS designs that that didn't make it to any game. Or heck, the other non-original members of the CFAS roster.


I agree too. I personally think that Rook was a pretty good design that should not get wasted.

My personal choices for returning characters:
SFA series: Grown up Sakura Wearign some street clothes or karate GI and NOT the school girl uniform.

SF2 series: Sagat, Guile and Akuma

SF3: I peronally would like the entire cast to return but the one who i really care on returning are Dudley, Makoto, Yang, Yun, Urien, and maybe Remy.

Thing I would love to see in SF4,

1)New characters

2)More Black Characters that arent sterotypes,

3) People from places other than USA, Japan, U.K., Russia. How about somefrom from N. or S. Korea, Canada, Africa?

4) More martial art styles that have yet to be represented in SF. I never seen a TKD or Jujitsu fighter in SF yet.

[Lvl.3]

Story wise, I don't think Sagat should come back, his goal was one last fight with ryu in ST. Thus he was defeated and did not return in 3rd strike. Guile,Cammy,t.Hawk, and Sim all had relations to Bison, and now that he has been defeated, there is no need for them to come back. Unless they do some wacky side story as a excuse for a comeback, like with Chun in 3rd.

In truth, what I liked about 3rd strike was that they eliminated like 85% of the returning cast. Look at how popular the game is now, and the past 3 years.

[Arkayne17]

Skullomania
Volcano Rossso
Alex
and the sean from 2I...

But will they follow story? Im anxious to see this ryu that oro "passed on" to..
(3s ending)

[The Illuminati]

Sagat and Ryu have to finish their Duel, So, that's a yeah. Also, capcom has to explain what Q is.

Here's my list:

Gouki (He's gonna be a secret character, I mean you cannot leave him out)
Sagat (He's gotta come back, otherwise why would capcom mention him in Third strike as being on par with Ryu?)
Alex (His stroy needs a conclusion)
Q (Who is he?)
Ingird (She's been giving hints for Street Fighter IV for a while now)
Mel Masters ( Just Because)
Gill or Urien (Either one has to comeback, I'm betting urien.)

Possibly: Sean (Cool character that needs progree)

Those are only Street Fighters with plots that are still open.

[Akiba]

Sagat and Ryu have to finish their Duel, So, that's a yeah. Also, capcom has to explain what Q is.

Here's my list:

Gouki (He's gonna be a secret character, I mean you cannot leave him out)
Sagat (He's gotta come back, otherwise why would capcom mention him in Third strike as being on par with Ryu?)
Alex (His stroy needs a conclusion)
Q (Who is he?)
Ingird (She's been giving hints for Street Fighter IV for a while now)
Mel Masters ( Just Because)
Gill or Urien (Either one has to comeback, I'm betting urien.)

Possibly: Sean (Cool character that needs progree)

Those are only Street Fighters with plots that are still open.

You forgot about Sakura my friend...

We still don't know for sure what happen to her or if she ever catch up with Ryu

They have to finish that too

[The Illuminati]

You forgot about Sakura my friend...

We still don't know for sure what happen to her or if she ever catch up with Ryu

They have to finish that too

In CVS 2 they hint that she quits street fighting during college. Too bad, she had alot of potential too. I hope they add a Final Fight character.

[Len Momono]

SFII comebacks
-Sagat
-Dhalsim
-Fei Long
-Cammy
-T.Hawk
-Dee Jay

SFA comebacks
-Karin
-Ingrid
-Guy

SFIII comebacks
-Yun
-Yang
-Alex
-Makoto
-Elena
-Q

[Amazo]

take off chun li, don't bring back dhalsim

[TenorFighter]

Fei long, karin, Maybe Guy. More finesse characters. New characters that have unique styles much like Gen. Always liked him. Too old maybe.

[Nick T.]

Deejay
and another black guy

[Rhio2k]

We all KNOW Sagat's coming back cuz the shit between he and Ryu wasn't settled so...that's an almost definite, unless Capcom had Akuma or Gill kill him between games.

[Lvl.3]

SF2

these characters pretty much accomplished their goals.

guile,t.hawk,sim,cammy all relate to bison, and he was defeated, so no reason for them to return. Blanka's goal, was to find his mom, and probably did. Sagat probably had that final fight with ryu.

as for Rog,Honda,Geif,DJ, Fei Long....they were in it to win, no revenge, or mission to stop the bad guy here. SO they could return.

Vega, no clue.

ryu,ken, and chun-li returned in 3rd strike.


again, who knows.

[Lebowsk1]

In CVS 2 they hint that she quits street fighting during college. Too bad, she had alot of potential too. I hope they add a Final Fight character.
But isnt CvS2 non-canon, as it is like a 'Dream Match'? I mean how is Yun supposed to fight school-age Sakura?

[MAGUS1234]

I hope 12 and Q come back cooler :/

[ZEBES]

ZANGIEF!

also, sagat, guile (hopefully killing ***-ass remy to enter) and blanka would be pretty cool comebacks.

as for remy and twelve, go away, you failed. and all that gill BS must not come back either.

Senjutsu Trained Ryu would mean WIN.

[BunnyHead]

^Lol Remy isnt a ***
he's damn sexy

Lol hows about they just included everyone with a few
additions?

The gaming technology has evolved
I'm sure they can include all....ummm....er...all the people from all the games in it
can't they?

But Chun li better be in this!

I was fuckin pissed when she wasnt in Street Fighter III
the first two times, I couldnt believe it:arazz:

Well all know Ken and Ryu will be apart of this
that's default baby

[Hellion]

shang long

:annoy:Dammit! You beat me to it!










Isn't it Sheng Long?

[Mechanica]

Fei Long, man.

[coco_j]

SF2

these characters pretty much accomplished their goals.

guile,t.hawk,sim,cammy all relate to bison, and he was defeated, so no reason for them to return. Blanka's goal, was to find his mom, and probably did. Sagat probably had that final fight with ryu.

as for Rog,Honda,Geif,DJ, Fei Long....they were in it to win, no revenge, or mission to stop the bad guy here. SO they could return.

Vega, no clue.

ryu,ken, and chun-li returned in 3rd strike.


again, who knows.

You know, maybe they could just come up with NEW stories for these characters?! :confused:

People are acting like SF4 is just another installment and applying those stupid rules we began coming up with in the past.

ie. Mostly new characters in each installment, character X being too old, character Y's story is finished, the story takes place in the year of it's release etc

Fuck all that shit. This is Street Fighter 4. Forget all those stupid rules ( rules I think TAS came up with)
It's a whole new ball game. Anything can happen. Sakura can CHANGE her mind and get back into fighting, Blanka can want a cure for his sick mum etc.

Peace.

[Qro]

I hope 12 and Q come back cooler :/

yesssssssssssssss

i must know Q and the rest of his mysterious story

who doesn't:wonder:?

[Brood_Star]

SF2
Ryu/Ken. Duh
Chun-Li. Duh
Dhalsim. He made a way better long ass limbs character than Necro
Vega.
Guile > Remy.
Maybe Sagat

SF3
Dudley > Balrog
Hugo. Maybe Alex.
Elena.
Urien > M.Bison
Ibuki
Makoto
Oro
Tweaked Yun/Yang
Revamped Q
Maybe Necro

Alpha
Akuma
Guy
Karin
Rolento
Rose
Sodom
Maybe Cammy. Not a big fan.

As long as I don't get too many rehashes of the same character style, I'm set. (cough alpha 3)

[PsychoShonen]

Oro. Using both arms.

[MAGUS1234]

^^^
then we'd have another gill.

[DTJB]

Short answer, almost everyone.

Unnecessarily long answer, always thought about who to stick in this game if it ever came out so here goes:

Older Sakura (mix of her own moves and some of Ryu's)
Older Karin
Mel (Ken's son)
[Chun Li's foster daughter] (combination of Chun's Alpha moves and 3rd Strike moves)
Alex
Yun
Yang
Ibuki
Necro
Dudley
Oro
Elena
Hugo
Remy
Makoto
Hinata
Batsu
Edge
Gan
Daigo
Akira
Roy
Tiffany


Unlockable Characters:
Ryu
Ingrid
Shin Akuma (powered down version)
Gen
Rose
Guy
Zangief
Sagat
Urien
Cammy
M.Bison (mix of Alpha and CVS2 moves)
Dan
Kyosuke
Hideo
Kyoko
Boman
Raizo
Kurow
Gill (not as cheap)
Dark Sakura (same as 3rd Strike version of Akuma)
Evil Dan (evil, but hardly any better)

[KORYNTHYAN]

:annoy:Dammit! You beat me to it!
Isn't it Sheng Long?


I beat everyone...#263. Check out the old EGM article:

Sheng Long. (http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9162/shenglongegmapril1ts.jpg)



~K.

[KORYNTHYAN]

Didn't that Gouken VS Gouki already happen in SVC: Chaos :rofl:

No, fool.

~K.

[dangitsdon]

OMg HD cammy please!
with a new look.

[Ryu & Ken]

Dhalsim and Guile and I hope Guile squashes the rumor about Remy

[Silks]

from sf3, I think Q, Remy, and Alex to settle some storylines. From the old sf2, if anyone, ryu, sagat, and ken. NO CHUN LI GODDAMNIT.

Of course there's other characters I'm biased towards seeing again... (ie, vega (claw), blanka, gief, yang, hugo, fei, even guile or charlie possibly, etc etc) Hopefully they don't jam too many characters into the game. I think we all know what happens with 20+ characters to balance. yikes

Dhalsim and Guile and I hope Guile squashes the rumor about Remy

Yeah man. I just want to finally hear something along the lines of, "Remy is Charlie's lovechild." End of mystery.

[Ouroborus]

they'll prolly use the grown up cammy, guy and cody from final fight streetwise if they were to return.

[Rioting Soul]

Ryu
Ken
Akuma
Sagat
Guy
Cammy
Vega(claw)
Bison(dictator)
Batsu
Rolento
Alex
Ibuki
Necro
Q
Dudley
Urien
Gill

[player2]

You know, maybe they could just come up with NEW stories for these characters?! :confused:

People are acting like SF4 is just another installment and applying those stupid rules we began coming up with in the past.

ie. Mostly new characters in each installment, character X being too old, character Y's story is finished, the story takes place in the year of it's release etc

F*** all that s***. This is Street Fighter 4. Forget all those stupid rules ( rules I think TAS came up with)
It's a whole new ball game. Anything can happen. Sakura can CHANGE her mind and get back into fighting, Blanka can want a cure for his sick mum etc.

Peace.SF may just be that: another installment. Consider the fact that the SF continuity follows a timeline, which is obvious from how older Ken/Ryu look in their SF3 incarnations. Whether we care or not, storyline is what holds certain pieces of the game together.

It seems that many people want their favorite characters in the game despite what may have happened to them in previous tournaments. I would love to see matches like:

Guile/Charlie vs. Remy
Boxer vs. Dudley
Dhalsim/Blanka vs. Necro
any combination of Guy, Maki, and Zeku
Geki vs. Ibuki
...but I think that would be more appropriate for another project (like an all-star dream match), not for a 'canon' Street Fighter.

Who knows what direction they want to take this one? There is a good possibility Sakura could join the fray. After all, she is a fan of Ryu. Sean could be in the game, considering his training with Ken. Chun-Li might be definite, considering her 'starring' role in the upcoming SF movie. Heck, they might even include Gen or other movie related characters.

There are a number of intellectual properties that Capcom may have in mind to play with. Consider the 'dropped' project, Capcom Fighting All-Stars. We may end up seeing characters like Ingrid, D.D., Rook, & Mike Haggar in the game. And we can't forget Rival Schools IPs, nor can we forget that Capcom has been known to use their Final Fight IPs in Street Fighter games.

If Capcom plans to pick up where SSF2 left off, maybe members of the Delta Red team may play a role in the roster/storyline. Now that Shadaloo has been defeated, the only ones left to attempt to revive that organization would be the Grand Masters, which I think is unlikely. The only grand master that can feasibly make an appearance is Sagat because of his rivialry with Ryu. (If we consider the Alpha side-story, we don't know of the fate of 10 of Dictator's dolls and if they qualify to fit into a story outside of the Alpha series.)

Or Capcom can go back to its roots and breathe new life into old IPs by using SF1 characters that aren't canonically dead or who are relevant to the plot.

Who knows what 4 will be, but I would rather it be canon, and not a dream match. Save that for another Capcom project.

[ST Vega]

Who knows 4 will be, but I would rather it be canon, and not a dream match. Save that for another Capcom project.

CFJ2. No joke. I think a second one would actually be good, seeing as how Capcom usually doesn't do too great with the first game of any series.

[Obliterate]

Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Sagat, Alex, Sean (different fighting style), Dudley, older Ibuki or someone from her clan, Zangief or someone who trained with Zangief, someone like Necro or Dhalsim, either Yun or Yang, not both, off one of them preferably Yun, Chun-Li, Chun-Li's younger sister with bigger tittays.

[The Lone Dragon]

No love for Elena? This makes me a sad, sad loli. :sad:
Don't worry Elena. If nothing else, you're still MY favorite SF character! :lovin:

I'm an Elena fan for several reasons. She one of the most revolutionary SF characters in years.

I really hope she returns.

[bodler]

how bout a new taekwondo er? capcom never had a taekwondo er. or a takkyun fighter.

it will also be competition for kof's kim

[Autocrat1]

As long as they don't add any 3rd party characters, especially from Rare, I could care less now.

The Dark Queen is damn broken. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3fZhle4614)

[kof4life]

Get a Korean character....Every other fighting series worth its salt has at least one good Korean character, yet Capcom have never had one in SF for some reason. KOF's Kim and Tekken's Baek and Hwoarang are quite popular, so I can't see why Capcom have stayed away from that...

[KrsJin]

Maybe so capcom didn't appear to bite their style. VF doesn't have any Koreans :) Though, it does have TaeKwanDo.

[ShYtFaCe]

I'd rather see more new characters than a bunch of old ones returning. Of course Ryu and Ken are gonna be in since they were in the fuckin trailer. But SF3 was comprised of mostly new faces even though everyone bitched about it, and it turned out to be pretty fresh. Save for a few lame ass designs like Remy, they should fire that guy.

[spudlyff8fan]

CFJ2. No joke. I think a second one would actually be good, seeing as how Capcom usually doesn't do too great with the first game of any series.

It would be great if Capcom put any sort of hit of effort into it. In all seriousness, outside of SF2 and SF3, any sort of Capcom fighting game that includes SF characters has been absolutely broken or just obviously lazy.

I love CvS2. But cmon. When you copy and paste the entire cast of one of your prior fighting games, sprites, moves and all, it just smacks of lazy (and to rub it all in, they all ended up top-tier). The same goes for CFJ. For all intents and purposes, it's essentially a fairly well-done MUGEN game (which means it's a pretty crappy for a real fighting game).

The same goes for the Vs games. Does anybody think that Capcom honestly think that Capcom put any time, consideration, effort, money or balancing into it? I mean, the Vs. games are little more than Street Fighter Alpha characters with high-jumps added, throw in characters from Children of the Atom. Add Spider Man and Cable and BOOM. You have an entire series of games.

And then EX...well, we all know how much broken shit there is in there.

I love these games, but let's be honest. Outside of SF2 and SF3...Capcom literally just throws something together and says it's a new game. And only occasionally does it work out.

So yeah, if Capcom actually carefully crafted a game, dream match or not, it'd be great.

[kaka]

karin. what about ryu and ken's master gouken?

[Henaki]

karin. what about ryu and ken's master gouken?

being dead makes being a character pretty hard

[kaka]

being dead makes being a character pretty hard

put him as a secret character?

[HuStLeMaN17]

Maybe Ryu and Ken are the only returning characters and everybody else is brand new.

[rising_player]

I want to see the return of fei long.

Maybe his nunchucks will be one of his special moves too.

[BigKiggzTheDon]

I want to see a few new characters and some Streetfighter 2 characters and Yun & Yangs uncle from SF1 and ibukis dad from SF1 aka vegas sensei.

I hope they do not make and stupid mistakes in character choices like in 3rdstrike with remy and 12 and sean. Even if they do I hope its at the least very balanced why have sean in a game like 3rdstrike when theres characters like Chun li its so stupid.

I hope Chunli is not god uber tier like 3rdstrike and I do any of the alpha characters only like the random main one 2-3 would be fine.

I just hope guiles in it I never understood why hes not in 3rdstrike along with a few others from SF2. Overall I just hope its very character vs character balanced and there are more returns from SF2 than any of the other games.

[Shin Sho-oh-ken]

I think it's best if they just had new characters.

It would be too messy to have a couple chars from SF2, SFA, and SF3 series along side with a couple new ones.

But, I just want Sakura to return.

[aegis neglector]

Please, God (and Capcom)...please don't take away my Urien. :sad:

[Arsenal]

As long as the retain Urien's main elements, I'll be happy. He doesn't have to play exactly like SFIII, but if he did, that'd be nice.

Like, in CFE, Urien still had c.HP and insane damage after that. He still had some Aegis tricks, and he still had his normal poke set. True, his unblockables were gone, his anti-air Sphere juggles were gone, but he still had the Urien "feel". And, he was hella fast in CFE. That was cool.

[FGHazard]

Cody Travers. Undefeated Since 1989. It takes a real man to defenstrate a bewheel-chaired crime boss wielding a crossbow.

[FGHazard]

Maybe Ryu and Ken are the only returning characters and everybody else is brand new.


My Secret fear is they are the only Playable Charaters. It would stop eveybody whining about balance in the most balanced fighter ever. (dissmissing JOKE characters...)

[bodler]

ryu and ken the only playable characters? is this an other mortal kombat shaolin monks with only liu kang and the guy with the hat? or a remake a sf 1?

how bout havong the boss from sf1? and the guy with the claw..hibukis mentor ( the guy tha was replaced by vega

[FGHazard]

It would be great if Capcom put any sort of hit of effort into it. In all seriousness, outside of SF2 and SF3, any sort of Capcom fighting game that includes SF characters has been absolutely broken or just obviously lazy.

I love CvS2. But cmon. When you copy and paste the entire cast of one of your prior fighting games, sprites, moves and all, it just smacks of lazy (and to rub it all in, they all ended up top-tier). The same goes for CFJ. For all intents and purposes, it's essentially a fairly well-done MUGEN game (which means it's a pretty crappy for a real fighting game).

The same goes for the Vs games. Does anybody think that Capcom honestly think that Capcom put any time, consideration, effort, money or balancing into it? I mean, the Vs. games are little more than Street Fighter Alpha characters with high-jumps added, throw in characters from Children of the Atom. Add Spider Man and Cable and BOOM. You have an entire series of games.

And then EX...well, we all know how much broken shit there is in there.

I love these games, but let's be honest. Outside of SF2 and SF3...Capcom literally just throws something together and says it's a new game. And only occasionally does it work out.

So yeah, if Capcom actually carefully crafted a game, dream match or not, it'd be great.



Capcom HAS to put in more effort than a majority of companies TOUTED for thier fighting series really put in. (I have only touched Guilty Gear once... so as far a comparison... don't know if that is balanced...) But really the only game that I can think of that MIGHT be more balanced than the SF in fighting is KOF... but I cannot say since I have never played that against top tier players. Really, SF has always been the go to in my eyes for balance. (Given Characters like DAN exist, but thats and OBVIOUS joke) I am 100% Certain that Capcom is not gonna turn this into a Marvel Vs. series kind of game. But I wonder how you can compare Vs. to Street Fighter Alpha?

A majority of balance complaints that involve games of the caliber of Street Fighter are either from people who cannot play or people who play for keeps.

The players who just cannot cut it need to find a game with more Cheese in it... Mayhaps Weapon Lord or Primal Rage.

The Keeps players just gotta look at the other options (Tekken, Mortal Kombat, ect.) to simmer down a bit... (with the nanochops at thier level, it could just be skill or experience)

Seriously, name a game OBVIOUSLY more balanced than SF... Otherwise this is the same silly argument that at best would cause SF4 to be perfectly balanced... but only contain Ryu and Ken.

[conroexlexx]

Add Mr.Big up in that mug

[Shin_Otaku]

Jackie Chan. And please Jennifer Lopez!

[Autocrat1]

And please Jennifer Lopez!
R. Mika is better.

"WAINBUWHL!" + huge white booty >>>>>>>>>> Gilgi

[KindredSpiritz]

Well I take it Ryu and Ken are defintely in it! And those were the two I wanted definitely to be in the roster!

But I wouldn't mind personally if Chun Li, Sagat and Akuma were in it!

New characters I would like is a female boss and Mel (Ken's son) and Gouken's daughter...

[GJN]

Guile, Akuma, Fei-Long, and Makoto (maybe) at least.

[Bass X0]

Guile should be in it and he should get some new special moves.

[omegaweapon25]

for me, Akuma is the bare minimum. eveyone else is extra, ROFL!!:looney:j

[CoolWater]

Its apparent that most people are more interrested in their personal interest than in the progression of a playable game. But thats fine cause its the American Way. Im just surprised so many people dont want to see Sean because they claim hes a shoto clone and that Akuma is more than enough in that respect. Because its better to have a blatant copy that a monkey pounding on the stick could use than to have a highly technical character.

Asside from that there's a whole slew of characters not even utilized like From Saturday Night Slammasters. Scorp FTW medium kick halfway across the screen.

[Ouroborus]

we need to bring zombie bison back

[Sasmasta]

No Zangief where he goes MECHAGIEF and exhales fire. When I saw that shit in MvC2 I was heartbroken. What kinda shit...

[bodler]

jean claude van damme!!! jean claude van damme!!! imagine going trought all the stages, then..stage 10!!! KEN VS JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME....AAAAAAAA...EPPIC BATTLE

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

They need a blind fighter. Who wears a bandana over his eyes or something.

[Spin Drive Smasher]

Characters who could realistically be in SF4
-Chun-Li: It's almost a definite that Chun-Li will be in the game, but I still can't wait to see her confirmed and see if they've done anything interesting with her look. Specifically, I hope her design in SF4 isn't as incredibly exaggerated as her Third Strike sprite, particularly the legs; her proportions were totally unrealistic in SFIII and I hated Chun's appearance as a result.

-Cammy: From a storyline perspective, I'd like to see the good that Cammy has done with Delta Red and how far she's come in developing her own identity since the fall of Bison. Even if SF4 takes place 5-10 years in the future, as some people are speculating, Cammy could easily fit into the game, since she was the youngest character in SF2.

-Zangief: Alex and Hugo replaced 'Gief as the grapplers of SFIII and, honestly, I didn't like either that much compared to the series' original grappler. Zangief seems to be well-liked even though he kind of sucks in a lot of the games he appears in. I'd like to see him back.

-Elena: I'd say Elena is about 50/50, but I hope she does come back. She was my favorite new character in SFIII because she had a totally original fighting style and personality for the SF series. Plus, she's SF's only African character, unless Capcom introduces a new one for SF4, and I want to see more than just American/Asian characters in the game.

Characters I'd like to see who WON'T be in SF4
-Rose: I think Rose is a very unique character with a great design and cool moves. Unfortunately, unless Bison's soul rises up from the depths of Hell during the storyline of SF4, Rose has zero chance of showing up without some major (and incredibly lame) retcons to the plot. Such is the disadvantage of having one character so tied into the story of another character.

-Geki: I don't know why Capcom just let this guy go to waste after SF1. Is it because Vega knocked off his claw? And now they have Ibuki to fill out the token ninja slot of the cast, too. Still, he was probably my favorite opponent in SF1; he stood out to me, even compared to opponents who appeared in later games like Gen. I guess it's because I like ninjas more than pirates. :lol:

-Eagle: He's fabulous and everything, but he seems destined to be one of the holdover characters who gets thrown into updates of decades-old games to entice people to buy the re-release because it has new fighters. :arazz:

-Poison: If any Final Fight character feels like showing up in SF4, I hope it's Poison. Now that Guy, Cody, Maki, Sodom, Rolento and Hugo have all shown up in SF, Poison deserves to be playable in ONE real versus fighting game.

[BunnyHead]

They need a blind fighter. Who wears a bandana over his eyes or something.

Sounds like Mortal Kombat dude

So I hope they don't

[chunbelievable]

I say try to make as many of the characters as you can from the street fighter universe. Of course at max they could only include maybe half of the characters from all the street fighter games but the more you can fit in you reduce the number of players who really want certain characters but missed out. For those players who don't want specific characters in the game, they always have the option not to play them. This way there is less chance of hearing, "god I really wish Fei and Maki were in the game."

For me personally, aside from the obvious shoto's and Chun that will most likely be in the game, I am really hoping for Gen, Guile, Gief, Boxer, Dudley, Guy, Yun, Fei, Elena, Ibuki, Cody, Birdie, Nash, Makoto, Necro, Dhalsim, Lee, Cammy, Adon and Sagat. Sooooooo many dream matches to be had. And since A4 will probably never happen, SF4 might my best chance for some of these fights.

Would prefer Eagle, Claw, Maki, Geki and Rolento were left out. Not important but I never really liked how everyone else is hand to hand but these guys have weapons. Of course with that thinking I guess Cammy would be on the fence, does her arm elbow thingy count as a weapon?

[The Lone Dragon]

Characters who could realistically be in SF4

-Elena: I'd say Elena is about 50/50, but I hope she does come back. She was my favorite new character in SFIII because she had a totally original fighting style and personality for the SF series. Plus, she's SF's only African character, unless Capcom introduces a new one for SF4, and I want to see more than just American/Asian characters in the game.


Does anyone have the results to that SF anniversary site character poll from a few years back?

I could have sworn that Elena was pretty dang high...or, at least higher than I would have expected. And, that may be good sign for a possible return...though I'm still doubtful.

I remember there was an archived link floating around for the poll results...

[bodler]

elena needs a bigger booty this time

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

Sounds like Mortal Kombat dude

So I hope they don't

And Urien, Gill, 12, Q, Oro, and pretty much all the new SF3 characters don't sound like Mortal Kombat?

[angelpalm]

i wanna see brass head from the kid with the golden arms

all his punches should be headbutts

and all his kick attacks should also be headbutts, he can be like the evil honda

[Atreyu]

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, should be in there ! rather then balrog or elena! and yeah ken's son Mel. let him and sean be the new "ryu and ken".



http://videogames.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Street_Fighter_Characters

[sailboat]

bring that nigga dudley back, maybe have him older and have his career waning so he's tryna save his reputation by winning a world warrior tournement... badass. counterpunchin for days. and sean too.. and that sean/mel - ryu/ken was a great idea.

cheers

[KindredSpiritz]

Characters who could realistically be in SF4
-Chun-Li:

-Cammy:

-Zangief:

-Elena:



Are you joking?


Here's my take:


Realistically apart from Ryu and and ken who could be in it.


Chun Li: Given the fact Capcom has stated there's a huge fan base for Chun Li hence the reason for her re-introduction for SF 3 Third Strike and the fact she will be in an upcoming film, she has one of the best reasons to be in SF IV.

Akuma Due to the fact that his story is not over with Ryu.

[Vicioustale]

Urien(make his ending real, that he killed Gill),Sagat,Cammy, Yun,Yang,Ibuki, Sakura,Karin,Elena,Dudley and Cody

[chunbelievable]

Urien(make his ending real, that he killed Gill),Sagat,Cammy, Yun,Yang,Ibuki, Sakura,Karin,Elena,Dudley and Cody

Damn for got about Karin, yeah I would like to see her or her style back. Loved her anticipation reversals.

[Dasiatic]

I think capcom should add a character named "BLAMMO".
you know, a boxer character. first you hold a punch button for like 5 seconds, then release. He'll come zooming across the screen yelling "BLAMMOOOO", knocking you the fuck out. instant dizzy. 1/2 dmg off. fully charges meter even on block, and sets the round timer back 40 seconds.

[Spin Drive Smasher]

Are you joking?
Chun Li: Given the fact Capcom has stated there's a huge fan base for Chun Li hence the reason for her re-introduction for SF 3 Third Strike and the fact she will be in an upcoming film, she has one of the best reasons to be in SF IV.

Akuma Due to the fact that his story is not over with Ryu.

No, I wasn't joking. I don't know why Capcom would bring back only Ryu, Ken, Akuma and Chun-Li again when so many players were pissed off at the lack of returning characters in SF3. We're also beyond the days of 16-18 playable characters after games like MvC2, and Capcom will probably need to bring back more than four or five old characters to fill in the gaps.

Now there's also popular characters from SF3, like Yun and Ibuki, that fans would want to see return, as well as fan favorites from SF2/A like Guile, Sagat and Sakura. And will they drop Alex even though he was supposed to be the "main character" of SF3? In other words, I think there's a good chance of seeing more than just the shotos from SSF2T and Chun coming back this time.

[Snowman_Hugo]

Ryu, Ken, and Chun-li, of course.

The Sakura - Karin rivalry should be continued.

The grapplers. Hugo, Zangief, Alex and Rainbow Mika. Liked the idea of putting Mike Haggar in the game, too.

Oro, since he's training Ryu.

Sagat should be put back in the storyline to continue his fight against Ryu.

Guile. nuff-said.

Yun, Yang, and Fei Long would be nice, too.

Urien would be good, too. I love fighting against Urien players, specially the ones using the Reflector.

Boxers, please. Balrog vs. Dudley, US vs England.

Elena, Ibuki, Makoto, and Q. Want to know more about them, especially Q.

I'm not saying that they should ALL be in the game. Maybe some of the ones I mentioned (except the obvious ones at the top) would be OK. For those not mentioned, I'm sorry. It's not that I don't like those characters. It's just that I don't like this game to end up being an All-Star game. Dream matches ruin the canon. :(

[bodler]

The only one I wanna see is fei long man , forget about them yun/yang triad fuckin thugs..

[heatblazer]

I want to see a real wrestling fest with Zangief , Alex , Haggar and Zalazoff :) That would be cool

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

I want to see a real wrestling fest with Zangief , Alex , Haggar and Zalazoff :) That would be cool

Well... They'd have to give Zangief a few more moves or else Alex and Hugo will own him. Then again, they could just make Gief the grappler version of Chun where all you need is fierces and roundhouses.

[sailboat]

^^^yeah

and they could just make SPD do like 1/4 dmg and make it otg comboable/cancelable into supers. :D

[KindredSpiritz]

No, I wasn't joking. I don't know why Capcom would bring back only Ryu, Ken, Akuma and Chun-Li again when so many players were pissed off at the lack of returning characters in SF3. We're also beyond the days of 16-18 playable characters after games like MvC2, and Capcom will probably need to bring back more than four or five old characters to fill in the gaps.

Now there's also popular characters from SF3, like Yun and Ibuki, that fans would want to see return, as well as fan favorites from SF2/A like Guile, Sagat and Sakura. And will they drop Alex even though he was supposed to be the "main character" of SF3? In other words, I think there's a good chance of seeing more than just the shotos from SSF2T and Chun coming back this time.


Well I wanna see lots of new characters, well the Alpha story is finished. You have a point about SF III characters, maybe they will bring back 1 or 2 and maybe old rivals will appear from SF II. I suppose it all depends on the whole storyline!

But look at the whole sequel pattern:

From Street Fighter I to SF II only Ryu and Ken returned, from SF II to SF III only Ryu and Ken returned once again! It's only with updates and alpha that were seeing a reintroduction of previous characters.

Colonel Wolfman from Delta Red to represent the UK!

[KY-Ant]

man.. just every character SF possibly had in the past, plus new characters.
i'll just use my characters and beat everyone else, so i don't care who my opponent is. done deal.

[o8z]

Ken's son Mel. Let him and Sean be the new "Ryu and Ken".

Mel's a little younger than Sean, at around 8 for 3S while Sean is what, late teens/early twenties? Still, I think this is a good idea. I like Sean, and was concerned that he was treated in his endings like a joke character. The only storyline justification for this was that he was still young and green. He deserves to mature into a character that the story takes seriously.

Mel, on the other hand, is a bit of an unknown. Will he rebel against his father's teachings? How strong will he become? I mean, come on, even at his young age he's developed an attack (http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/a/sf3-2ken.htm) with more stopping power than the Shun Goku Satsu/Raging Demon.

[Artayes]

ALONG WITH RYU AND KEN

ZANGIEF
DHALSIM(make up a reason to bring him back)
ORO
URIEN
NECRO
Q
TWELVE
KARIN
SAKURA
SEAN
HUGO WITH POISON
ALEX
YUN/YANG
MAKOTO
BLANKA
GUILE
ELENA
IBUKI
VEGA

MOST IMPORTANTLY SAGAT AND AKUMA

[KindredSpiritz]

OK, I've made up my mind:

Who should be in it...

Ryu
Ken
Chun Li
Akuma
Mel
Gouken's daughter
Colonel Wolfman


All the rest new....

[Cody Travers]

Sean,Yun,Sagat and dudley. Done

[vasili10]

Mel's a little younger than Sean, at around 8 for 3S while Sean is what, late teens/early twenties?

Mel's 4 in 3S.

[o8z]

Mel's 4 in 3S.Thanks. I didn't look it up, I was just guessing.

[Spin Drive Smasher]

From Street Fighter I to SF II only Ryu and Ken returned, from SF II to SF III only Ryu and Ken returned once again! It's only with updates and alpha that were seeing a reintroduction of previous characters.

Quite true, but I think the progression from SF3 into SF4 is one could easily break this "tradition."

In the transition from SF1 to SF2, the series hadn't really broken into the mainstream yet, so fewer people even knew about the series to be complaining that, say, Retsu hadn't returned to the sequel. There's also the fact that, even if somebody HAD played the original, only Ryu and Ken were playable characters, and both came back for SF2. It's a lot easier to be annoyed that a previously playable character hasn't returned to a game's sequel than a NPC.

In the transition from SF2 to SF3, the series had become popular and fans had been treated to many updates of SF2 with additional characters (while each of the updates retained the older ones) and SFA, which started out small before exploding in roster size by the time SFA3 came out. I know I was pretty upset when SF3 was released with only ten playable characters from the start and only two of them were returning characters from SF2.

And I think Capcom realized that fans weren't happy with the lack of older characters, and that's why they brought Akuma and Chun back in the upgrades. The fact that they're running a poll on their message board featuring EVERY character from the four main SF series seems to indicate that they want to please the fans. And to do that, I think, they're going to need to bring back more than just Ryu, Ken, Akuma and Chun-Li again. If they can pull off a game with 25-30 characters, I would expect about a dozen returning characters at least.

Capcom isn't stupid. This is the first new SF game in a long time and I'm sure they're going to want to create something that will renew interest in the series. Having a sizable roster list with a few more fan favorites than we got in SF3 seems like a good place to start.

[KindredSpiritz]

Quite true, but I think the progression from SF3 into SF4 is one could easily break this "tradition."

In the transition from SF1 to SF2, the series hadn't really broken into the mainstream yet, so fewer people even knew about the series to be complaining that, say, Retsu hadn't returned to the sequel. There's also the fact that, even if somebody HAD played the original, only Ryu and Ken were playable characters, and both came back for SF2. It's a lot easier to be annoyed that a previously playable character hasn't returned to a game's sequel than a NPC.

In the transition from SF2 to SF3, the series had become popular and fans had been treated to many updates of SF2 with additional characters (while each of the updates retained the older ones) and SFA, which started out small before exploding in roster size by the time SFA3 came out. I know I was pretty upset when SF3 was released with only ten playable characters from the start and only two of them were returning characters from SF2.

And I think Capcom realized that fans weren't happy with the lack of older characters, and that's why they brought Akuma and Chun back in the upgrades. The fact that they're running a poll on their message board featuring EVERY character from the four main SF series seems to indicate that they want to please the fans. And to do that, I think, they're going to need to bring back more than just Ryu, Ken, Akuma and Chun-Li again. If they can pull off a game with 25-30 characters, I would expect about a dozen returning characters at least.

Capcom isn't stupid. This is the first new SF game in a long time and I'm sure they're going to want to create something that will renew interest in the series. Having a sizable roster list with a few more fan favorites than we got in SF3 seems like a good place to start.

Where is this poll? And I'd wanna see more than 30 characters lol.

[Spin Drive Smasher]

Where is this poll?

Here ya go! (http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showthread.php?t=21305)

The top ten characters right now are:
1. Ryu - 140 votes
2. Chun-Li - 130 votes
3. Sagat - 127 votes
4. Ken - 126 votes
5. Akuma - 116 votes
6. Sakura - 112 votes
7. Alex - 98 votes
8. Cammy - 97 votes
9. Guile - 96 votes
10. Ibuki - 90 votes

And Mike from SF1 is in dead last with 19 votes. :p

[KindredSpiritz]

Nice try, but capcom isn't actually running that poll per se. It's actually a member of the forum named Tas.

[bodler]

fei long but switch the bird kick comman from 3/4 cricl foward to half circle foward

[vasili10]

Thanks. I didn't look it up, I was just guessing.

Sure thing o8z. No prob.

[veristic]

I'd like to see an older, scruffier Cody Travers in an orange prison uniform return, Guy with his trademark sneakers and a serious Dan after having trained under Oro.

[bodler]

I'd like to see an older, scruffier Cody Travers in an orange prison uniform return, Guy with his trademark sneakers and a serious Dan after having trained under Oro.

good idea of a serious Dan, but you gotta remember, we cant make him to serious.

remember hes the comic relief/ only goofy character of the game. making him like ryu would fuck it up.

maybe yes make him stronger maybe after training with oro or whatever but keep hes stupidness

[sailboat]

I'm gonna bring this idea here:


Kimbo Slice.

[bodler]

I'm gonna bring this idea here:


Kimbo Slice.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......WORST IDEA EVERRRRRRRRR....

[thecarnalcorpse]

I got one word for ya :

TIGER! :3

Seriously, a Tier 1 Sagat would be fucking hot.

[Dasiatic]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......WORST IDEA EVERRRRRRRRR....

so true. my "BLAMMO" idea as better than that one.
anyone here like my "BLAMMO", btw? no?

[KindredSpiritz]

In case you didn't know the last boss speculation is moved to this thread now as suggested by a forum user!


I suggest as the last boss: Goutestu's daughter known in manga as "Sayaka." In case you didn't know who Goutetsu was, he's basically Akuma's old master who Akuma killed. I think he was also the brother of Ryu and Ken's master Gouken.

[vasili10]

In case you didn't know the last boss speculation is moved to this thread now as suggested by a forum user!


I suggest as the last boss: Goutestu's daughter known in manga as "Sayaka." In case you didn't know who Goutetsu was, he's basically Akuma's old master who Akuma killed. I think he was also the brother of Ryu and Ken's master Gouken.

Sayaka's only from Alpha Generations. To my knowledge she's never appeared in any manga.

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

Sayaka's only from Alpha Generations. To my knowledge she's never appeared in any manga.

Off topic, but any idea why they didn't complete the Alpha story? As in make a Alpha 2 movie or something. Generations was a nice backstory, but damn the drawings were hideous.

[Sasmasta]

Goutetsu

Akuma and Gouken

Ryu and Ken

I thought Gouken was Akuma's brother, and "Sheng Long" could only be taught when you had a partner to spar with. Or some shit...

[veristic]

Please no more shotoclones.

[vasili10]

Off topic, but any idea why they didn't complete the Alpha story? As in make a Alpha 2 movie or something. Generations was a nice backstory, but damn the drawings were hideous.

Complete it as in bring it to a close like with Zero 3? Who knows, might still be in the works. There hasn't been a good foundation with the two previous features though, due to their various break-offs and differences with each other. Despite its sequel claim, Alpha Generations the backstory turned out to be another stand-alone story, and a short one at that. And yeah most of its character art didn't help either, among other things.:wasted:

[KindredSpiritz]

Goutetsu

Akuma and Gouken

Ryu and Ken

I thought Gouken was Akuma's brother, and "Sheng Long" could only be taught when you had a partner to spar with. Or some shit...

You are absolutely right, Gouken and Akuma were brothers! Sorry about the confusion, both were under the senseiship of Goutetsu. Then Gouken became Ryu and Ken's master, I think correct me if I'm wrong Akuma killed both Goutetsu and Gouken? And at one time Gouken was the master of Dan but then rejected Dan due to Dan's fury and revenge seeking over Go Hibiki's death?

I need a SF sage to tell me if I'm right!

[Shin_Shinyuken]

I'd like to see Evil Ken. I don't know why. Maybe because SVC Chaos is a shunned game and nobody really got to experience him.

Um... I would like to see Sakura, Akuma, Bison, E. Honda, Yun, Yang, Sean, CAMMY, Dan, and Zangief.

[vasili10]

You are absolutely right, Gouken and Akuma were brothers! Sorry about the confusion, both were under the senseiship of Goutetsu. Then Gouken became Ryu and Ken's master, I think correct me if I'm wrong Akuma killed both Goutetsu and Gouken? And at one time Gouken was the master of Dan but then rejected Dan due to Dan's fury and revenge seeking over Go Hibiki's death?

I need a SF sage to tell me if I'm right!

You're right KindredSpiritz.:tup:

[Sano]

Nice try, but capcom isn't actually running that poll per se. It's actually a member of the forum named Tas.

Who they made into a moderator of the forum prior to the poll being created and he has the power to Sticky it and other threads. So it's from Capcom's Website. Prolly as close to a Capcom poll as you are going to get unless another Japanese poll crops up like the 15th Anniversary one. At least this one doesn't let you vote multiple times and thus far Stefan hasn't hacked it yet...

(Despite Tas being... hmm, how should I put this... well Tas... Strange move by the website seeing as how they've given him a temporary ban before and he's been the cause of a lot of shut down threads, hmmm... Eh maybe this will humble him, who knows...)

[bodler]

Who they made into a moderator of the forum prior to the poll being created and he has the power to Sticky it and other threads. So it's from Capcom's Website. Prolly as close to Capcom poll as you are going to get unless another Japanese poll crops up like the 15th Anniversary one. At least this one doesn't let you vote multiple times and thus far Stefan hasn't hacked it yet...

(Despite Tas being... hmm, how should I put this... well Tas... Strange move by the website seeing as how they've given him a temporary ban before and he's been the cause of a lot of shut down threads, hmmm... Eh maybe this will humble him, who knows...)

feels good hearing about somebody worst then me...

[KomboKaze]

I would Like to see Shun(Ryus so called brother)

[veristic]

I would Like to see Shun(Ryus so called brother)

He isn't cannon. Makoto was allegedly supposed to be Ryu's long lost sister when SF3 was in production but that didn't stick either.

I'm still pulling for a Matt Damon-esque secret agent/assassin that fights and looks like Steven Segal/Nick Fury/Solid Snake. *thumbs up*

[coco_j]

(Despite Tas being... hmm, how should I put this... well Tas... Strange move by the website seeing as how they've given him a temporary ban before and he's been the cause of a lot of shut down threads, hmmm... Eh maybe this will humble him, who knows...)

lol you showed some good restraint there brother. TAS is just... an idiot. I cannot stand that guys' posts. Every chance he gets he will mention his crappy SF4 ideas. Like having Ryu wear Oros robe on top of his gi ( the art btw is awesome, its done by eFex ) but from a design standpoint it is absolutely horrible, and he never backs down or reconsiders anything.
Dudes thinking is set in stone. Glad he doesn't post here anymore.

[bodler]

lol you showed some good restraint there brother. TAS is just... an idiot. I cannot stand that guys' posts. Every chance he gets he will mention his crappy SF4 ideas. Like having Ryu wear Oros robe on top of his gi ( the art btw is awesome, its done by eFex ) but from a design standpoint it is absolutely horrible, and he never backs down or reconsiders anything.
Dudes thinking is set in stone. Glad he doesn't post here anymore.

RYU WEARING OROS ROBE ON TOP OF HIS GI?.........:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl: OMG :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


WOW EVEN I WOULDNT BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SO STUPID

[Sano]

lol you showed some good restraint there brother. TAS is just... an idiot. I cannot stand that guys' posts. Every chance he gets he will mention his crappy SF4 ideas. Like having Ryu wear Oros robe on top of his gi ( the art btw is awesome, its done by eFex ) but from a design standpoint it is absolutely horrible, and he never backs down or reconsiders anything.
Dudes thinking is set in stone. Glad he doesn't post here anymore.

Yes restraint. :rofl:

[vasili10]

(Despite Tas being... hmm, how should I put this... well Tas... Strange move by the website seeing as how they've given him a temporary ban before and he's been the cause of a lot of shut down threads, hmmm... Eh maybe this will humble him, who knows...)

Boggles my mind, he still asks me for things even though he's too good to respond to my PM's over there. Truly :looney::rofl:

Then again, he may have just found a good place to hide, behind others. Sorry to say this, but several admins over there must be cowards, as if they're scared of me or something.

[Sagatryu]

Tas seems to like to bash sterotype characters a lot. he want's everything to be new and orignal ,which means no sterotypes.


Edit: Now Ryu wearing Oro's robe over top of his Gi would look kind a tacky from a design standpoint and it does. also does Ryu really need Oro's robe to show that he's been training with him. I think capcom could come up with better ways to show that Ryu's been training with Oro, then just slapped Oro's robe on him.

[Radiantsilvergun3]

Giving him some new moves would do a better job of that then shoving a robe over his Gi. Is he like those people who want Ryu to have a friggin Grizzly Adams beared and look like hes never heard of a shower? I hate that crap.

[Beatface22]

Cody and Dj--------------------o and T hawk

[Sagatryu]

I always imaging Ryu taking a shower or a bathing in hot springs.

[Sasmasta]

^:confused:

You are absolutely right, Gouken and Akuma were brothers! Sorry about the confusion, both were under the senseiship of Goutetsu. Then Gouken became Ryu and Ken's master, I think correct me if I'm wrong Akuma killed both Goutetsu and Gouken? And at one time Gouken was the master of Dan but then rejected Dan due to Dan's fury and revenge seeking over Go Hibiki's death?

I need a SF sage to tell me if I'm right!

Sounds dead-on to me. :tup: :wonder: :wasted:

[Lobelia Mk. IV]

RYU WEARING OROS ROBE ON TOP OF HIS GI?.........:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl: OMG :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


WOW EVEN I WOULDNT BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SO STUPID
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OLLLLLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO UR STIL DA WRST POSTR ON DIS 4um
Maybe now he'll understand, since I had to de-evolve to communicate with him.

[bodler]

Tas seems to like to bash sterotype characters a lot. he want's everything to be new and orignal ,which means no sterotypes.


Edit: Now Ryu wearing Oro's robe over top of his Gi would look kind a tacky from a design standpoint and it does. also does Ryu really need Oro's robe to show that he's been training with him. I think capcom could come up with better ways to show that Ryu's been training with Oro, then just slapped Oro's robe on him.

Looking for for a way to show that ryu has been training wirh oro? simple...while fighting they should make him have boogers falling out of his nose from time to time...

[thecarnalcorpse]

RYU WEARING OROS ROBE ON TOP OF HIS GI?.........:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl: OMG :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


WOW EVEN I WOULDNT BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SO STUPID

Wow, I think my IQ just dropped a few points. Seriously son, my brain-piece hurts.

But, yeah...Ryu wearing Oro's robe is kind of creepy. I mean, it makes you think, what the hell happened to Oro? Is his dismembered corpse in that duffle bag? :0

Maybe, he could have a one-handed fb with properties like Oro's.

[two2tone]

Fei Long man! he's been out of action for too long...

[bodler]

Fei Long man! he's been out of action for too long...

same, thats my number 1 contender...but if he does come back i dont want him having the command for the bird kick thing as in street fighter 2 turbo

[Nori]

I would hate to see more shoto clones:(

Bison returning as a boss or at least somebody like him would be bad ass

[bodler]

I would hate to see more shoto clones:(

Bison returning as a boss or at least somebody like him would be bad ass

I think the boss should be somebody totally new, maybe out of nowhere, like a show stopper! someone who crashs the tournamen

[Ephidel]

Bison returning with new moves/strats would be dope. (least I think so)

Boss or not, he should always be considered.

[Demon Dash]

Yeah I think Bison would be an awesome boss, more so than a character like Gill.

As for characters I wouldn't mind something similar to the EX series, nice selection of returning characters but also a nice selection of new characters too. Not necesserelly the characters them selves, but more the consistancy through out the roster...

[KindredSpiritz]

Yeah I think Bison would be an awesome boss, more so than a character like Gill.

As for characters I wouldn't mind something similar to the EX series, nice selection of returning characters but also a nice selection of new characters too. Not necesserelly the characters them selves, but more the consistancy through out the roster...


NOOO!

M. Bison is dead, there ain't no coming back! I think Gill or a new female boss similar to M. Bison's moves. The EX series wasn't good, I like the roster layout however but keep the classic characters to a minimum....I wanna see lots of new characters!!

[Daigo Jr]

i would like characters from ex, especially skullomania, shannon?, Garuda, pullum, cyborgs.....


...pretty much everybody

[coco_j]

Quite true, but I think the progression from SF3 into SF4 is one could easily break this "tradition."

In the transition from SF1 to SF2, the series hadn't really broken into the mainstream yet, so fewer people even knew about the series to be complaining that, say, Retsu hadn't returned to the sequel. There's also the fact that, even if somebody HAD played the original, only Ryu and Ken were playable characters, and both came back for SF2. It's a lot easier to be annoyed that a previously playable character hasn't returned to a game's sequel than a NPC.

In the transition from SF2 to SF3, the series had become popular and fans had been treated to many updates of SF2 with additional characters (while each of the updates retained the older ones) and SFA, which started out small before exploding in roster size by the time SFA3 came out. I know I was pretty upset when SF3 was released with only ten playable characters from the start and only two of them were returning characters from SF2.

And I think Capcom realized that fans weren't happy with the lack of older characters, and that's why they brought Akuma and Chun back in the upgrades. The fact that they're running a poll on their message board featuring EVERY character from the four main SF series seems to indicate that they want to please the fans. And to do that, I think, they're going to need to bring back more than just Ryu, Ken, Akuma and Chun-Li again. If they can pull off a game with 25-30 characters, I would expect about a dozen returning characters at least.

Capcom isn't stupid. This is the first new SF game in a long time and I'm sure they're going to want to create something that will renew interest in the series. Having a sizable roster list with a few more fan favorites than we got in SF3 seems like a good place to start.

I only just saw this post, but I wholeheartedly agree. This is a comeback game of sorts. People expect and want to see the classics. The first version should have a 50-60% returning cast. The inevitable later versions should add more new characters.

[KindredSpiritz]

i would like characters from ex, especially skullomania, shannon?, Garuda, pullum, cyborgs.....


...pretty much everybody

Won't happen because those characters are owned by Arika mate!

I only just saw this post, but I wholeheartedly agree. This is a comeback game of sorts. People expect and want to see the classics. The first version should have a 50-60% returning cast. The inevitable later versions should add more new characters.

What is the point of a new street fighter with 50-60% of returning characters, it might as well as be an update of alpha 3 max, if that's the case. The slogan is a "a new beginning" with sound reasoning should mean plenty of new characters and storylines.

Now if you're saying different returning characters from every previous installment of SF, a few from each would possibly make it more interesting. But do I want new characters to outnumber classic charcters? Hell yeah!

[Spin Drive Smasher]

What is the point of a new street fighter with 50-60% of returning characters, it might as well as be an update of alpha 3 max, if that's the case. The slogan is a "a new beginning" with sound reasoning should mean plenty of new characters and storylines.

But what is the point in cutting out a lot of returning characters just to make new characters with similar fighting styles and special moves? Now, I'm not saying that all or even one of the new characters in SF4 would ripoff older ones, but we did have characters in SF3 like Remy, who had Guile's special moves for absolutely no reason, or Necro, who had limb-stretching abilities like Dhalsim. I can only speak for myself, but when fighting games do this (like in the transition from Tekken 2 to Tekken 3 for example), I always have to wonder, "Why not just bring back Character X if Character Y is so similar?"

The reason Elena was my favorite character in SF3 was because she had a completely fresh fighting style for the series. If Capcom goes all out to make sure each new character is unique, then I wouldn't be opposed to more new characters than old ones, but I still think we need more than just four or five returning faces. The EX series as a whole really did have a nice balance of new (by my count, 20) and returning (by my count, 14) characters, so I'd like to see SF4 have a similar ratio between new and old.

[Khentimentiu]

vega/balrog, vega had style and class :P, and also id like to see them kill off ryu *hides*

[Kyokugen]

At this point, I don't care. I'd be happy with just about any characters as long as it's SF4.

Maybe 5 years ago I'd have a wishlist. :(

[veristic]

What is the point of a new street fighter with 50-60% of returning characters, it might as well as be an update of alpha 3 max, if that's the case. The slogan is a "a new beginning" with sound reasoning should mean plenty of new characters and storylines.

Now if you're saying different returning characters from every previous installment of SF, a few from each would possibly make it more interesting. But do I want new characters to outnumber classic charcters? Hell yeah!

If it's 3D, bringing back classic chars shouldn't be a problem. With today's technology a large roster of characters can be easily done.

[coco_j]

What is the point of a new street fighter with 50-60% of returning characters, it might as well as be an update of alpha 3 max, if that's the case. The slogan is a "a new beginning" with sound reasoning should mean plenty of new characters and storylines.

Now if you're saying different returning characters from every previous installment of SF, a few from each would possibly make it more interesting. But do I want new characters to outnumber classic charcters? Hell yeah!

Yeah the "new beginning" stuff makes me wonder. But as Spin Drive Smasher said, SFEX had a good mix of classic and new, I think the right amount. I would hope SF4 would have a couple characters from Alpha, SF2 and SF3. Thats what I meant, and then the all new characters.
Seriously, a mix of say 20 returning characters balanced with 14 newcomers (like EX) is pretty good. Thats still a fuckload of new characters.

[Radiantsilvergun3]

NOOO!

M. Bison is dead, there ain't no coming back! I think Gill or a new female boss similar to M. Bison's moves. The EX series wasn't good, I like the roster layout however but keep the classic characters to a minimum....I wanna see lots of new characters!!Because Capcom NEVER brings back dead guys no neeeever.

Besides the last time capcom wen't with an almost all new cast everyone shit on em hard core and still do. Good luck with them trying that again. I mean most SFIII's cast is cool but more people hate them then like em.

[Ehonda]

cmon all the characters need to be in this. but perhaps with some twists. Like maybe Ken should only have 1 arm now and have to fight like ORO. Have Honda in a wheel chair from his excessive weight gain. Dhalsim prolly will have ligament damage from the limbs being stretched out beyond repair. Seriously though they all deserve to return. Can they accommodate over 40 characters? All the alpha's all the ST's and the 3rdstrike characters?

[lino]

van damme style guile from sf2 the movie would be a cool final boss

[KindredSpiritz]

But what is the point in cutting out a lot of returning characters just to make new characters with similar fighting styles and special moves? Now, I'm not saying that all or even one of the new characters in SF4 would ripoff older ones, but we did have characters in SF3 like Remy, who had Guile's special moves for absolutely no reason, or Necro, who had limb-stretching abilities like Dhalsim. I can only speak for myself, but when fighting games do this (like in the transition from Tekken 2 to Tekken 3 for example), I always have to wonder, "Why not just bring back Character X if Character Y is so similar?"

The reason Elena was my favorite character in SF3 was because she had a completely fresh fighting style for the series. If Capcom goes all out to make sure each new character is unique, then I wouldn't be opposed to more new characters than old ones, but I still think we need more than just four or five returning faces. The EX series as a whole really did have a nice balance of new (by my count, 20) and returning (by my count, 14) characters, so I'd like to see SF4 have a similar ratio between new and old.

Nobody is saying that thew new characters won't be unique. I'd rather see from a personal point of view new canon characters, I don't particularly care if they are shotokon clones or fighters with same moves.

Because Capcom NEVER brings back dead guys no neeeever.

Besides the last time capcom wen't with an almost all new cast everyone shit on em hard core and still do. Good luck with them trying that again. I mean most SFIII's cast is cool but more people hate them then like em.

Well can you actually name a character within the SF series who has been brought back from the dead? Didn't think so.

SF III as I understand despite the lack of classic charcters was still a relative success, even when fans complained Capcom only brought back Chun Li and Akuma.

cmon all the characters need to be in this. but perhaps with some twists. Like maybe Ken should only have 1 arm now and have to fight like ORO. Have Honda in a wheel chair from his excessive weight gain. Dhalsim prolly will have ligament damage from the limbs being stretched out beyond repair. Seriously though they all deserve to return. Can they accommodate over 40 characters? All the alpha's all the ST's and the 3rdstrike characters?


Sorry but in the SF IV storyline I think that some of the characters from The Alpha timeline are dead by now....like Charlie, Rose, Gen and M.Bison. There ain't no coming back! There will never be a compendium of characters from every installment.

[bodler]

van damme style guile from sf2 the movie would be a cool final boss

LOOL eeww

[BigRick70]

Vega was too good... bring him back!

[Shin Sho-oh-ken]

Yeah I think Bison would be an awesome boss, more so than a character like Gill.


So go play SF2 and SFA3?

[Cameron]

akuma, w/ multiple air hadoukens.

[Khentimentiu]

Well can you actually name a character within the SF series who has been brought back from the dead?

Gill :P

[vasili10]

Gill :P

Brought himself back, but yeah.

[Spin Drive Smasher]

Well can you actually name a character within the SF series who has been brought back from the dead? Didn't think so.

I'm guessing the original poster was referring to the fact that Capcom can and does retcon the SF storyline at will. Charlie died at the end of SFA2, didn't he? But they just rewrote his storyline and he was back in SFA3. Likewise, if Capcom were set on bringing Bison back as the boss of SF4 for whatever reason, they'd probably just BS a storyline for him and run with it.

I think Charlie is the only dead character who has absolutely zero chance of reappearing in canon sequel. Charlie had an honorable death and giving the fans an "OOPS, cyke!" moment would weaken both Charlie and Guile's backstories. Whereas somebody like Bison could more believably pull a Michael Myers and come back from the dead or something.

There will never be a compendium of characters from every installment.

Oh how I wish there were though. :smile:

[vasili10]

I'm guessing the original poster was referring to the fact that Capcom can and does retcon the SF storyline at will. Charlie died at the end of SFA2, didn't he? But they just rewrote his storyline and he was back in SFA3.

Actually he was proclaimed dead in his Zero 1 ending (his original manner of death in the old SF2 days finally shown in a game), and survived in his Zero 2 ending.

[Shin Sho-oh-ken]

Actually he was proclaimed dead in his Zero 1 ending (his original manner of death in the old SF2 days finally shown in a game), and survived in his Zero 2 ending.

Well, they said SFA3 is the whole A story combined into one. It's not a continuation of A2 and A1, but pretty much both combined and more.

[vasili10]

Well, they said SFA3 is the whole A story combined into one. It's not a continuation of A2 and A1, but pretty much both combined and more.

That's incorrect, Shin Sho-oh-ken. Zero 3 doesn't replace Zero 2. Zero 1 and Zero 2 have the same general story, so Z2 overrides and/or builds from Z1, but Z3's general story is different. Z3 is a continuation from Z2.

Who said that A3 is the whole A story combined into one? Who is "they"?

[KindredSpiritz]

I would've though Alpha 3 was a continuation of Alpha 2 because in Alpha 2 Charlie falls off a cliff in Venezuela but in Alpha 3 he's back!

I didn't know Gill died and then was brought back to life! I was reading about the Illuminati today and was thinking Canon wise, he has got a good chance of returning in SF IV if it's after SF III.

But I'd rather see his secretary Kolin as the new Empress of Illuminati and boss!

I defintely wanna see in it:

Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Chun Li, [Gouken's daughter], C. Wolfman,

Kolin!

[coco_j]

^ I always liked the idea of Kolin backstabbing Gill and becoming a powerhouse herself.

[shin_ryu]

the cast should be all new characters except for ryu,ken, chun li, and akuma...those should be the only characters that have been in a sf game that should be in this next one

[ST Vega]

the cast should be all new characters except for ryu,ken, chun li, and akuma...those should be the only characters that have been in a sf game that should be in this next one

Because they didn't do that for 3s.

This game needs MORE old faces. Ken and Ryu are pretty much confirmed, I'd imagine with them being in the trailer. But outside of them, there needs to be more than just Chun and Akuma. The biggest complaint I've ever heard about SF3 is the character roster sucks.

[StuartHayden]

Ryu, Ken, Chun, Akuma, Oro, Sean, Mel(?) and the rest be new cast.

-SH

[ST Vega]

Ryu, Ken, Chun, Akuma, Oro, Sean, Mel(?) and the rest be new cast.

-SH

Why Sean or Oro? Ugh. SF3 characters are so bland.

[StuartHayden]

Because the Oro/Akuma fight was Cannon, and cause Sean was still undergoing training with Ken. So, it makes sense, despite how bland they are.

-SH

[Eph]

Bring back Sawada from Street Fighter The Movie: The Game. Infact SF4 should be "Street Fighter 4: Street Fighter The Movie: The Game HD Remix".

[Contra]

Gief and Allen Snyder... RISING DRAGONNNNN

[veristic]

The EX series was NOT developed by Capcom, therefore NOT cannon to the SF universe. Stop asking to bring back chars from that series.

[KindredSpiritz]

the cast should be all new characters except for ryu,ken, chun li, and akuma...those should be the only characters that have been in a sf game that should be in this next one

I agree!! Keep the classic characters to a minimum, new beginning also means new characters.

[bodler]

Gief and Allen Snyder... RISING DRAGONNNNN

yea i wanna hear some RISIN DRAGOOONN!!!! in sf4

[Tigerboi]

The EX series was NOT developed by Capcom, therefore NOT cannon to the SF universe. Stop asking to bring back chars from that series.

Uh, relax.


But the EX had some seriously awesome characters. Cracker Jack was boss.

[thecarnalcorpse]

the cast should be all new characters except for ryu,ken, chun li, and akuma...those should be the only characters that have been in a sf game that should be in this next one

I have to disagree. Yeah, new beginning should mean new characters, but I don't think SF3 had enough classic fighters. In my opinion, SF4's roster should be new characters for the majority, but include more than just Ryu, Ken, Chun, and Akuma. That's just lame.

Because the Oro/Akuma fight was Cannon, and cause Sean was still undergoing training with Ken. So, it makes sense, despite how bland they are.

-SH

Then doesn't it make sense that some other older characters be included for the sake of continuity? Take Sagat for example. Clearly, he's still angry inside about that big scar on his chestacle. I think he still wants a piece of that Ryu clown.

[ShinjiGohan]

The whole EX cast would rock in SF4. Not likely to happen