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ST Vega
11-30-2007, 01:57 AM
Because this thread is to discuss potentially returning characters. It should go without saying there is room for discussion about HOW to bring back said characters.

KindredSpiritz
11-30-2007, 01:28 PM
Because this thread is to discuss potentially returning characters. It should go without saying there is room for discussion about HOW to bring back said characters.

OK, so who will defintely return apart from Ryu and Ken. Whose storyline has got the best reason to return?

I can see Akuma returning or am I wrong?

shin_ryu
11-30-2007, 10:33 PM
Because this thread is to discuss potentially returning characters. It should go without saying there is room for discussion about HOW to bring back said characters.

yeah well you could have clarified your thread title instead of just putting "Characters" buddy...but nice try anyway :tup:

True Grave
11-30-2007, 11:03 PM
Bison, Dan, with charlie as a secret character. Thats who needs to come back!

Hawk
11-30-2007, 11:55 PM
Dan

Best word spoken in this entire thread.

subaru84
12-01-2007, 01:04 AM
As you can imagine there are many approaches in handling the touch of death move:

Here are some of my ideas:

1) the move dies with gen along with it's secret and never appears in any SF game ever again

Last I checked, Raishin Mahhaken is derived from Gen's Shitenshu. Ergo, Yang is most likely the character who possesses a true "death touch" technique. Therefore, he must return.

Compulsory Characters:

Ryu
Ken
Akuma
Sakura
Dan
Chun
Guile
Sagat
Yang
Yun
Dudley

The rest I don't give a fuck about.

True Grave
12-01-2007, 01:09 AM
Best word spoken in this entire thread.

Dan has never been a serious character, but was always fun to play. Much like you can't have SF without Ryu/Ken, you also can't have it without a fun, quirky joke character in the cast!

I wonder what SFIII's was, if it was Sean he FAILED to deliver.

SF4 needs the return of the pink glove of justice!

oldboy
12-01-2007, 01:43 AM
My dream was for SFIV went like this:

Ryu - Older, gray hairs etc, less speed due to age, copes by upping the power to his hits. Maybe even some weird oro-ness in his action since he's been training with the ole' guy.

Mel - The new younger ken. Emphasis on speed would be neat, I think. And of course, his dad's fiery shoryu.

Akuma - Older, Bossier, and more supernatural

Chun-li's implied adopted daughter thing? - the new chun-li/yun/yang Kung fu/wing chun etc

Sakura - back and stronger, at the same level Ryu was in SF1 or 2 or Alpha or something

Alex - bring him back, make him better

Dhalsim - get rid of necro, older, crazier, lankier

Dudley - Awesome

Retsu - SF1 characters that should've been used again, cool lookin guy. But he might be too dead for this game

SAGAT - Because he still hasn't really had his fight with Ryu as far as I know. Even if he has, I want another. Older, not evil, honorable, etc, like Ryu with the emphasis on heavy heavy hitting. Make him huge.

That's all I really have an opinion on.

Super Sonic
12-01-2007, 03:34 AM
Sagat HAS TO come back! He is just too cool to be left out. Don't give him the same treatment you did in SF3, Capcom...

An SF1 character would be great (preferably Retsu (if he isn't dead already), seeing how popular he is)

We need Cammy too IMO.

The idea of "Balrog Vs. Dudley" , "Zangief Vs. Hugo/Alex" and "Charlie/Guile Vs. Remy" sounds fantastic, but I don't think they're ever gonna do that.

bodler
12-01-2007, 07:38 AM
Who Wants Eagle In Sf4!!!!? Huh??? Eagle Baby!!!

Tigerboi
12-01-2007, 07:59 AM
*bodler mode* Eagle's not going to be in it.

*exit bodler mode*

But hey, isn't it kind of hard for Bison to come back since he's...uh...dead?

lino
12-01-2007, 08:44 AM
*bodler mode* Eagle's not going to be in it.

*exit bodler mode*

But hey, isn't it kind of hard for Bison to come back since he's...uh...dead?

they should introduce bisons son, who happens to look excactly the same. his name would be bison too.

Tigerboi
12-01-2007, 11:01 AM
That would be acceptable.

white shadow
12-01-2007, 12:07 PM
But hey, isn't it kind of hard for Bison to come back since he's...uh...dead?


"M.Bison, you have my blessings to exact vengeance on the Street Fighters, and to spread ignorance and chaos in the fighting community."

Tigerboi
12-01-2007, 12:23 PM
"M.Bison, you have my blessings to exact vengeance on the Street Fighters, and to spread ignorance and chaos in the fighting community."

That means he would posses Dan. And dropkick Sakura in the titties.

Hawk
12-01-2007, 12:36 PM
That means he would posses Dan. And dropkick Sakura in the titties.

That made me lol for some reason. Good job, sir.

hellhound
12-02-2007, 02:03 AM
I think e. honda had the best moves to represent sumo wrestling. I think they should keep him unique and bring him back. Unless they can come up with more new ways to do sumo moves they should keep it as e. honda rather than introducing a new sumo wrester with his moves.

Jushiness
12-03-2007, 05:21 PM
"M.Bison, you have my blessings to exact vengeance on the Street Fighters, and to spread ignorance and chaos in the fighting community."

You were talkin all that good shit a second ago, Then you got KICKED in yo chest!

*cough * ahem. anyway my list

Sakura [but more hardcore and kick ass and in a Gi not a school girl uniform]

Makoto [Because shes so angry]

student of Fei Long [personal idea]

Dudley [because there has never been a better boxer in a fighting game if you ask me]

AND MOST OF ALL
*Rainbow Mika [because that ass needs to come back]

kurahadol
12-05-2007, 12:14 PM
Characters I'd like to see return:

Sakura - I actually see a high probability in this happening.
Karin - Very high chance she won't make it, but a man can dream.
Gen - This guy or a character like him would fit right in, plus he's absolutely amazing to play as.
Guy - My one true character at Street Fighter Alpha.
Makoto - Not very good with her but I liked her character overall.
Sagat - The man is absolute ownage, why shouldn't they?

I think that about does it for my input.

DARKHOKAGE
12-05-2007, 01:52 PM
MAfuckingKOTO nigga!!!!!!

KindredSpiritz
12-06-2007, 06:24 AM
Confirmed characters!!!



According to EGM and 1UP, this Thursdays info confirms the following characters so far...

Ryu
Ken
Chun Li
Dhalsim

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164756

The Illuminati
12-06-2007, 07:45 AM
Confirmed characters!!!



According to EGM and 1UP, this Thursdays info confirms the following characters so far...

Ryu
Ken
Chun Li
Dhalsim

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164756


That should have been Sagat.

locoghoul
12-06-2007, 08:51 AM
I would like a character with a countermove, kinda like crosscounter from dudley but better. Pretty much like Geeseīs counters from CvS2.

white shadow
12-06-2007, 09:34 AM
Lol it will be refreshing to see a 3D graphic 2D plane fighter with consistent crossup normals.

Wellman
12-06-2007, 09:52 AM
Not happy about Dhalsim but hopefully my fear about the game being loaded down by SF2 characters won't become reailty. The Alpha and 3 series had so many good characters, it sucks that the majority of them are just left in limbo.

Bengus
12-06-2007, 09:55 AM
I'd love for it to be set in the distant-future. So I'd only really want the following:

- Old Ryu as end-of-game boss (he'd come after the standard evil storyline boss)
- Ken's kid/s
- Sakura grown up (what she'd be like I have absolutely no idea, Capcom would really have to thjink about that one)


The rest can all be new, I really think Capcom could do it. I love the SF3 cast, folks like Dudley, Urien, Makoto etc etc.

Ken's son!? That's actually good idea! I would be satisfied with Cody in the character line up.

kev_the_bev
12-06-2007, 02:47 PM
Not happy about Dhalsim but hopefully my fear about the game being loaded down by SF2 characters won't become reailty. The Alpha and 3 series had so many good characters, it sucks that the majority of them are just left in limbo.

ditto.

chopperbyrne
12-06-2007, 02:56 PM
Hopefully even with Dhalsim, they can still make room for Necro. He's such a good character. It'd be a shame to leave him out.

Ehonda
12-07-2007, 07:10 AM
As long as there is no parrying in SF4.

DevilJin 01
12-07-2007, 07:12 AM
As long as there is no parrying in SF4.

There's parrying in like every fighting game. MVC2 (push block is somewhat like a parry) and even Guilty Gear has parry now. It's fine to not want 3S style parry but parries dont automatically ruin a fighting game. It's more so the mechanics and every fighting game's parry has different mechanics. Some which don't make things as "random" as 3S parry.

bodler
12-07-2007, 07:14 AM
Ken's son!? That's actually good idea! I would be satisfied with Cody in the character line up.

kens son yea but if hes old enough...cody yea...fei long YEEAAHHH...necro NOOOOOOOOOO

Sasmasta
12-07-2007, 07:17 AM
No SLAM DANCE!?

bodler
12-07-2007, 10:54 AM
would u guys be mad if sean appeared? cos i notice evvrybody hates him.

Squishy_frog
12-07-2007, 11:12 AM
Blanka, Balrog cammy bison.

polarity
12-07-2007, 11:46 AM
MVC2 (push block is somewhat like a parry)

loooolllllll

Gutter Trash
12-07-2007, 06:11 PM
I want full screen chargers:
E.Honda, Blanka, Balrog, Bison (normal size) and Birdie

Eduardo24
12-07-2007, 06:39 PM
would u guys be mad if sean appeared? cos i notice evvrybody hates him.

People donīt like him because he sucks in 3s. If he was godly as he is in 2I it would be another story.

azis
12-07-2007, 07:21 PM
For me, I just ask for Vega (Claw). If possible, Dudley. Both are stylish characters, and I like it.

For newcomer, I would vote for Delgado, a single enemy from Final Fight. He would be like Rolento moving, but different specials and supers.

tajiri
12-07-2007, 07:27 PM
i think there will be the st 2 cast and maybe some sf3 characters.
sfIV is rumored to take place after 2 and before 3.

:/

Abs
12-07-2007, 07:47 PM
Guile better be in it.

bodler
12-07-2007, 07:49 PM
i think there will be the st 2 cast and maybe some sf3 characters.
sfIV is rumored to take place after 2 and before 3.

:/

it doesnt make sense, if its after 2 and before 3 why the fuck would they name it street fighter ----> 4 <-------

plus a ------> new beginning <--------

how can it be a --> new begining <---- if the story is before sf3....this rumor must be completly false..thats my opinion

Radiantsilvergun3
12-07-2007, 08:54 PM
I agree with the rumor being false but numbering don't mean shit to Capcom. Devil May Cry 3 takes place before Devil May Cry 1 or 2.

vasili10
12-07-2007, 09:11 PM
For me, I just ask for Vega (Claw). If possible, Dudley. Both are stylish characters, and I like it.

For newcomer, I would vote for Delgado, a single enemy from Final Fight. He would be like Rolento moving, but different specials and supers.

El Gado.

CarpeNoctumXIII
12-07-2007, 10:22 PM
I'm really not happy at all on the inclusion of Dahlsim since I was hoping they would continue to move away from designs like that, since while they were great back then, and we all love them for what they are, this is the 4th title in the series and I would prefer they looked ahead instead of back, keeping only the true staples(which they already confirmed they will). Here's hoping they don't announce Blanka next.

KindredSpiritz
12-08-2007, 08:17 AM
Am I sensing an anti-dhalsim current here, if so....why? Dhalsim can work so well with Canon because he's a yogi! I'm sure Capcom have their reasons, plus Dhalsim is such a classic character!

KING
12-08-2007, 09:10 AM
Dhalsim's lame.

Guile better be in it.

i second this motion.

MaybeMemories
12-08-2007, 10:55 AM
sakura is possibly the unique gem that everyone wants. I cant seem to agree on the likes of E.honda / blanka etc but sakura = yes.

Mbison aswell

Lvl.3
12-08-2007, 11:50 AM
Since this game takes place after/near Super Turbo, I assume most characters will or should return to explain what happened to them. Since there are no SF3 characters in be had in the game, from whats been reported, they really should call the game Super Turbo Alpha :P

AudioCG
12-08-2007, 11:58 AM
I am hoping for a HUGE roster, with my boys Guile and Charlie (Nash) back in the mix.

I am happy for the return of Sim, and am praying fervently for a Chun Li that isnt a total bitch.....:rolleyes:

Sasmasta
12-08-2007, 01:59 PM
I think its safe to say everyone wants Makoto back. :safe:

Projectjustice
12-08-2007, 02:00 PM
Guile and Makoto's Dad

CarpeNoctumXIII
12-08-2007, 02:55 PM
I'll be mighty disapointed if they just don't put anything related to 3s in this game, be it characters or some system tweaks/additions that I liked(I LOVED parries, yup...)from that title.

Gaijinblaze
12-08-2007, 05:45 PM
I'm sure they'll throw us 3S people a bone.

On the other hand, the returning SF2 characters better not look exactly how they did in freaking WW. In my opinion a lot of those designs just aren't gonna fly in 2008. Green jungle man FTL.

Aside from that I don't care.

bodler
12-08-2007, 05:46 PM
i dont want that bitch dike makoto back she screams to much

Sasmasta
12-08-2007, 05:50 PM
Oooorgh!? [/Makoto taunt]

RevFirst
12-08-2007, 06:36 PM
i dont want that bitch dike makoto back she screams to much

*zips up pants* Huh? What?

scentless
12-09-2007, 07:14 AM
Chun li is in :D, now the game needs Rose.

KindredSpiritz
12-09-2007, 10:09 AM
Rose is dead my friend.

hellhound
12-09-2007, 11:31 AM
For sure the game will have a strong guy. It could probably be a new character but if they were to bring back someone from the past I want it to be HUGO. Bring the giant back.

Lvl.3
12-09-2007, 11:48 AM
For sure the game will have a strong guy. It could probably be a new character but if they were to bring back someone from the past I want it to be HUGO. Bring the giant back.

it will be Zangeif, did you not read about the after Sf2, but before Sf3 part, with the 'no return' of any Sf3 character. It's in the EGM leak. You can tell capcom of Amercia is directing the game.

polarity
12-09-2007, 11:59 AM
it will be Zangeif, did you not read about the after Sf2, but before Sf3 part, with the 'no return' of any Sf3 character. It's in the EGM leak. You can tell capcom of Amercia is directing the game.

Because SF3 was such a huge success in Japan, and the SF3 characters were so popular that dozens of them got included in crossover games whenever Capcom had the chance, right?

Oh wait no, only two SF3 characters have ever been featured in any non-SF3 series game, and one of those games was fucking Pocket Fighter.

Yeah, this sure is Capcom of USA's doing!

ZZ_Styles
12-09-2007, 12:00 PM
Bring back Rolento!!

DARKHOKAGE
12-09-2007, 12:31 PM
i dont want that bitch dike makoto back she screams to much

eat a dick nigga!!!! either you do that or end up with a dent in your face like the poor guy in my av lol

hellhound
12-09-2007, 12:34 PM
it will be Zangeif, did you not read about the after Sf2, but before Sf3 part, with the 'no return' of any Sf3 character. It's in the EGM leak. You can tell capcom of Amercia is directing the game.

No I did not read that none of the SF3's will be in SF4. Plus so far SF4 taking place between SF2 and SF3 is still considered to be a rumor and is not official.

umthrfkr
12-09-2007, 01:09 PM
t.hawk and it would suck not to have sf3 chars. hopefully that will change and they do make it after sf3. would like to see alex rape some more.

Gaijinblaze
12-09-2007, 05:31 PM
Because SF3 was such a huge success in Japan, and the SF3 characters were so popular that dozens of them got included in crossover games whenever Capcom had the chance, right?

Oh wait no, only two SF3 characters have ever been featured in any non-SF3 series game, and one of those games was fucking Pocket Fighter.

Yeah, this sure is Capcom of USA's doing!
alex and urien were in cfj. yun's in cvs2, ibuki in pf. alex was also going to be in cfas.

polarity
12-09-2007, 05:48 PM
alex and urien were in cfj. yun's in cvs2, ibuki in pf. alex was also going to be in cfas.

cfj doesnt count

Chrno
12-09-2007, 06:26 PM
I wonder if Capcom would be willing to put characters in just for the sake of having them in (no storyline, just dead and a "what if" scenario) stylized similar to the large cast of Tekken characters...

I think there's like 50 characters total in the SF Franchise?

Anyway...I'd want Guile someone from the Dolls (not including cammy), cammy of course, Sakura (older).

Wishful thinkings.

Lvl.3
12-09-2007, 08:08 PM
I wonder if Capcom would be willing to put characters in just for the sake of having them in (no storyline, just dead and a "what if" scenario) stylized similar to the large cast of Tekken characters...

I think there's like 50 characters total in the SF Franchise?

Anyway...I'd want Guile someone from the Dolls (not including cammy), cammy of course, Sakura (older).

Wishful thinkings.


Well, since so many are complaining about Sf4, maybe they should make a Sf free for all game with every SF character in it. That would be epic.

hellhound
12-09-2007, 08:10 PM
That would be nice for dream match games where there are no storylines but not for SF4.

Lvl.3
12-09-2007, 08:13 PM
That would be nice for dream match games where there are no storylines but not for SF4.

This game is being directed by the small staff at CoA, the story sounds f-up'd already. When is a prequel a sequel?

Sasmasta
12-09-2007, 08:14 PM
...Time Paradox!

polarity
12-09-2007, 09:39 PM
This game is being directed by the small staff at CoA, the story sounds f-up'd already. When is a prequel a sequel?

Christ, will you please stop acting like every little thing you don't like about this game is the fault of CoA? how about Devil May Cry 3? CoA had nothing to do with that, and it's set before DMC1.

Projectjustice
12-09-2007, 10:01 PM
If SF4 takes place between SF2 and SF3, who here would like to see Makoto's dad in action? I would love to see a master of Makoto's martial art in action!

Jaewon
12-10-2007, 05:52 AM
Would love to see

the most would be Rose, i feel like sometimes she's a pretty underrated character.

the obvious, ken, ryu, chun-li
i would LOVE to see ibuki again
yun
maybe gen?
rolento
and who's that chick from SFA3 with the hearts on her chest? her.
and cammy

Fritz
12-10-2007, 04:06 PM
Wish list:
Guile
Gen
Rolento
Geki
Poison
Charlie
Sodom
Morrigan
Strider

hellhound
12-10-2007, 08:15 PM
It would be cool to have gen in the new game but I he died in the alpha series. He was sick with lukimia and entered the alpha tournament to have one final death match with akuma.
It's understood akuma won that match.

THis is my best way to bring gen back for SF4. Have a new character who is a monk that is able to talk to ghosts. This monk has the power to allow 2 martial art ghosts to posses his body. However as a surprise to us street fighter fans capcom should allow a secret code that allows the monk to summon gen. Then when the monk is possesed by gen he actually has the same moves as him in the alpha series.

hellhound
12-10-2007, 08:27 PM
This game is being directed by the small staff at CoA, the story sounds f-up'd already. When is a prequel a sequel?

First of all it's being done by capcom of japan. Second although I am not pleased with it taking place between SF2 and SF3 it's really not the first time a video game was done this way.

DMC3 was a prequel and so was metal gear solid 3.

My only guess for capcom doing it this way is because they want some SF2 characters to return other than the obvious ryu, ken, and chun li.

Sagatryu
12-10-2007, 09:08 PM
Enix did the prequel thing first with Dragon quest 3 which is a prequel to Dragon quest 1 and 2. then those Konamii's Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse which is a prequal to Castlevania: The Adventure , Castlevania II: Belmont's Revenge , Castlevania and Castlevania II: Simon's Quest.

Wellman
12-12-2007, 11:05 AM
SF4 should have been a dream match a la KOF '98/2002/Neowave or Smash Bros. or the Marvel Vs. series, which would allow them to put whoever they wanted into the game and not have to worry about a resonable plot.

KindredSpiritz
12-12-2007, 11:14 AM
Due to the new info, it's easy to know who will make an appearence.

I take it most of the Super Street Fighter Turbo II cast and then a few SF III characters and Akuma. Maybe throw in one or two alpha ones, some newbies and everyone's happy.

What does everyone think about this Sheng Long rumour? Maybe he's the new boss?

New Era Outlaw
12-12-2007, 12:26 PM
I think Sagat should be in this game.
We've been waiting far too long for him to have his rematch with Ryu, and there has got to be an explanation as to why he didn't turn up in 3.

Perhaps something happened to him between SF2 and 3? That's where 4 would come in.

I could also see Guile coming back, but I don't see any motivation for him since Bison's pushing up daisies. Perhaps Balrog, seeing Shadowloo falling apart, got desperate and kidnapped his daughter to make a quick buck?

"I'm done fighting. I'm a family man now."
"That's just it Guile. They've GOT your family!"

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"
*machine gun fire*

Ultima
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
They can make up whatever bullshit story they want to make almost any character return.

Characters who can return easily:

SF1: Any of them. Even Gen, since we don't when he finally succumbs to his disease.
SF2: Any that they want (e.g. Zombie Bison).
SF3: Alex, Dudley, Q, Gill, Urien. All the teens would be unlikely due to age. And it's too early for Necro, Oro, Twelve or Remy to appear. Sean would probably make a cameo in Ken's ending at least. Hugo probably shouldn't appear since he should still be wrestling, but maybe he calls out Zangief (or vice-versa) or something.
SFA: Anyone but Charlie really. And even Charlie could reappear as Shadow if they really wanted. However, Sakura and Karin would probably require redesigns due to age, and hence aren't likely to show.
Final Fight: Anyone they want except Belger, and nobody gives a crap about him. I hope Ono is wrong/changes his mind when he says that there won't be any direct FF references, cause this *wink wink nudge nudge* treatment of FInal Fight has to stop.

jabhadouken
12-12-2007, 02:03 PM
SF4 should have been a dream match a la KOF '98/2002/Neowave or Smash Bros. or the Marvel Vs. series, which would allow them to put whoever they wanted into the game and not have to worry about a resonable plot.

Given SF3's story, reasonablity hasn't been an important "plot element" for ten years or so, at the very least.

But anyways...

My wishlist:

Ryu (check)
Ken (check)
Chun Li (check)
Sim (check)
Geif
Guy/Guy-like character
Cherry Blossom
Claw
Geki
S-A-G-A-T (Say it with me now!)
Adon
Fei-Long/Fei-Long-esque character
Edmund H.
Cams


Guile would be kind of nice, I guess.

Chrno
12-12-2007, 02:56 PM
I'm thinking there'll be another iteration of the game with SF4 just playing as a flashback story. Then we'll get a "STREET FIGHTER 4: NEW BEGINNINGS" and then a "STREET FIGHTER 4: THE WORLD TOURNAMENT"

yeah...I'm betting that...new characters! Pweeze! =)

I want to see Ingrid. I'm serious too. I want to see Ingrid.

King Of Bums
12-12-2007, 04:13 PM
No Yun love in this entire thread... Come'on, bring the Geni'jin pwnage to sf4! Aside from that, i would like to see everyone return (besides a few useless guys in sf).

KindredSpiritz
12-12-2007, 05:24 PM
I think Poison is going to be in it.

Ono was asked during an interview about SF IV to clarify if Poison is a homosexual or transexual. He gave a response depending on which region you lived in: Japan= gay transvestite North America=transsexual...

As Poison is fresh in his mind....maybe we'll see an appearence from this LA born lass.

rush down
12-12-2007, 06:27 PM
Poison was also going to be in capcom all-stars before they dumped it. Maybe Haggar too then.

ViciousSLASH
12-12-2007, 07:49 PM
I posted this in the other thread but I'd like to see 14 ST peeps, 5 SF3/Alpha peeps, and 3 new dudes.

Since I didn't want to dork up the EGM thread with character wish list nerderation, so I will do it here...

14 ST peeps

1. Ryu
2. Ken
3. Chun Li
4. Dhalsim
5. Guile
6. E Honda
7. Zangief
8. Blanka

----These 8 have to be in, no matter what----

9. Sagat
10. Balrog
11. Vega
12. M Bison - Preferable as a crazy zombie, brought back to life by Psycho Power
13. Cammy
14. Akuma - It'd be nice if he was only a boss character or something. Having 3 shoto's in a game is kinda dumb. I really hope the shoto's continue differentiating their playstyles in SF4.

Alpha/SF3 Peeps

1. Alex
2. Dudley
3. Adult Sakura
4. Adult Karin
5. Cody

New guys

1. ???
2. ???
3. ???

A new different grappler ( perhaps SNK style? ) , a quick person, and someone based on hitting heavy attacks who isn't slow. Preferably two of these will be girls to balance out the gender numbers.

14 + 5 + 3 = 22, which seems like a really nice number. Not too many, and not too few. It might be too much for a "new" game though. :*(

That is my SF 4 nerd list. Thank you for reading and not caring.

goodm0urning
12-12-2007, 08:07 PM
I'd say negative on Zombie Bison. Though that would be kind of cool, it seems like that's the kind of bizarre weirdo character that Ono-san said they're trying to stay away from this time around.

DevilJin 01
12-12-2007, 08:09 PM
I'd say negative on Zombie Bison. Though that would be kind of cool, it seems like that's the kind of bizarre weirdo character that Ono-san said they're trying to stay away from this time around.

Sux...cuz I like the weird characters.

ViciousSLASH
12-12-2007, 08:18 PM
I'd say negative on Zombie Bison. Though that would be kind of cool, it seems like that's the kind of bizarre weirdo character that Ono-san said they're trying to stay away from this time around.

Nah, it wouldn't be that weird. He'd look just like this, compliments of our own fan art forum (http://zombpunk.deviantart.com/art/Zombie-Bison-21014844)

How could you not want to play as Zombie Bison?

As long as they have the original HF 8 in ( which I'm pretty sure will be in there easily ), I don't care who else they put in the game.

I'd personally like to see Adon ( who I think is dead ) and Fei Long. The only two SF characters I can really competently play as. :*(

I just tried to make my list "Make sense" instead of just putting a bunch of people I'd like to play as. :looney:

Kataklysmic
12-12-2007, 10:12 PM
SF3: All the teens would be unlikely due to age.

The teens in SF3 aren't minors, they're either 18 or 19. It's not a stretch to put them in SF4 at 16.



They might start small with 10-12 characters, so my picks:
Ryu, Ken, Guile, Chun, Dhalsim, Sagat
Alex, Ibuki
4 new guys

The new boss could fit as a playable new guy assuming he's not "Gill-powered."


If they go for revisions, which they might, I would add:
Zangief, Blanka
Yun, Yang
2 new guys


And for a third:
Cammy, Vega
Oro, Dudley, Urien
1 new guy


I hope 25 isn't asking too much. The number did increase from ST to 3S.

Hawk
12-12-2007, 10:28 PM
Honestly, I think Bison's going to come back as the boss. Again.

Especially with the whole "wanting the SF2 roster back" thing. It'd probably be kinda cool, though.

Maybe they'll focus a bit more on the story this time around?

chopperbyrne
12-13-2007, 01:28 AM
A new different grappler ( perhaps SNK style? ) , a quick person, and someone based on hitting heavy attacks who isn't slow.

So Makoto then?

Rioting Soul
12-13-2007, 01:48 AM
If it takes place between SF3 and SF3 then Q can still be in it. Put Q in it.

goodm0urning
12-13-2007, 02:24 AM
I honestly wouldn't mind if the current four returning SF2 characters were the ONLY returning characters... though I wouldn't mind if the rest of the original eight returned either.

Hint hint, Capcom.

malven
12-13-2007, 02:54 AM
from st :

Ryu
ken
Chun
Dhalsim

Dee jay
Zangief (or Hugo)
Guile
Blanka


from 3.3

Urien
Oro
Q
Dudley
Alex

Alpha :

Rolento

And 8 new characters for a really well balanced roster :)

Sasmasta
12-13-2007, 03:15 AM
Yes Makoto. :nunchuck:

Infested Jester
12-13-2007, 03:29 AM
With Dhalsim and Chun Li confirmed, I can only ask for Zangief at this point. :tup:

Lobelia Mk. IV
12-13-2007, 05:03 AM
With Dhalsim and Chun Li confirmed, I can only ask for Elena at this point. :tup:

FUCKING FIXED.
All Street Fighter IV needs is Elena. PERIOD.

chopperbyrne
12-13-2007, 06:09 AM
I've been using Honda quite a bit recently. I'm still undecided if I prefer HF Honda or ST Honda, but I would definitely like to see him return.

KindredSpiritz
12-13-2007, 11:28 AM
With Dhalsim and Chun Li confirmed, I can only ask for Zangief at this point. :tup:

I think that's a given...

I'm hoping because Tekken 6 has 40 characters that Street Fighter IV will have round about the same. A good mix of SF II and III as well as completely new characters!

AdamL00001
12-13-2007, 11:32 AM
I don't care who returns, as long as we get a free pair of MAXIMUM pants with our preorders...

Projectjustice
12-13-2007, 12:05 PM
With Dhalsim and Chun Li confirmed, I can only ask for Zangief at this point. :tup:

You know you can just play SF2/Alpha series. They are all in there.

Hawk
12-13-2007, 12:06 PM
With Dhalsim and Chun Li confirmed, I can only ask for Zangief at this point. :tup:

I'd really like to see Zangief vs Hugo. :rofl:

Ehonda
12-13-2007, 12:14 PM
I've been using Honda quite a bit recently. I'm still undecided if I prefer HF Honda or ST Honda, but I would definitely like to see him return.

I agree Honda must return. I wont play it if he is not. Well... i wont play it much.

ViciousSLASH
12-13-2007, 02:51 PM
So Makoto then?

Maybe Makoto's mom? Or her sister or something?

She'd be almost loli young.

I'd like to see Makoto and Hugo too. They are great characters but they won't fit well in the games timeline.

Hugo is busy wrestling ( which is actually an in because Zangief could challenge him ) and Makoto would be like 12 yrs old.

Sephiroth73003
12-13-2007, 03:05 PM
Even if they can't give me makoto they have to give me a good replacement. Her playstyle is so fun. As long as I get that and Sagat than i will have everything i need.

R.P.D rookie
12-13-2007, 04:31 PM
If this takes place after 2 and before 3, then maybe Q still has a chance to be in it.:wonder: He's the biggest loose end that needs to be tied up.

Ansatsuken-TKD
12-13-2007, 04:44 PM
If the dead characters (Gen, Bison, etc) stay dead then that'll work for me.

Kataklysmic
12-13-2007, 05:17 PM
Makoto would be 16 in this game. She can be in it if they want her to be.

shin_ryu
12-13-2007, 07:04 PM
the best would be just the original 4 plus akuma and then it can be all new characters

ViciousSLASH
12-13-2007, 07:10 PM
the best would be just the original 4 plus akuma and then it can be all new characters

You did read the article right?

Ono said they are going to try and scram as many SF2 characters in as possible.

Making it all new characters would be the exact same mistake they make with SF3.

shin_ryu
12-13-2007, 07:13 PM
mistake? is that why 3s is well known like it is?it might not be as known as SF 2 or ST or whatever but it is still a known game

CiFoO
12-13-2007, 08:19 PM
omfg, i really cant wait >_< for this game

Kataklysmic
12-13-2007, 08:41 PM
mistake? is that why 3s is well known like it is?it might not be as known as SF 2 or ST or whatever but it is still a known game

Yeah, well known because fans didn't like it.

shin_ryu
12-13-2007, 09:07 PM
no. because it got other fans that liked other types of fighting games other then street fighter i am a fan and always have been of sf 2, alpha and 3s i've always liked the sf series except the movie game

Kataklysmic
12-13-2007, 09:14 PM
Immaterial. SF3 was not a success and it prompted Capcom to dump the hardware. We don't need that happening with SF4.

bridgypoo
12-14-2007, 12:05 AM
You did read the article right?

Ono said they are going to try and scram as many SF2 characters in as possible.

Making it all new characters would be the exact same mistake they make with SF3.

SF3 didn't have exactly all New characters, obviously.
I believe adding a mixture of new and old characters is the way to go. Say, 45 new 55 old. Percentage-wise. Maybe dropping less commonly played characters that suck or wouldn't contribute to the game's awesomeness factor in terms of old characters.

If they had a grip of characters like Tekken6 will, they would definitely be hitting the good spot, giving everyone a good taste in terms of character selection.

KindredSpiritz
12-14-2007, 05:19 AM
But Tekken doesn't have many new characters in each of it's sequels, I mean the latest sequel has 3 or 4 newbies.

Street Fighter IV should have lots of new characters despite Ono wanting to cram as many SF II characters as possible. There should be a big roster.

Any idea on who the boss will be?

If it's set after SSF Turbo then M.Bison is dead, killed by Akuma. But I can't imagine Gill being in the new graphics? A new boss?

crazydiamond
12-14-2007, 12:39 PM
It should have a muscle bomber character.

hellhound
12-15-2007, 07:30 PM
I'd liuke to see some sort of UFC character. Kind of like KOF's gai tendo. Good striking ability and ground fighting attacks.

KindredSpiritz
12-15-2007, 07:59 PM
OK, if it's truly 2% done...are these Brazillian rumors standing any ground about the new two female characters and Sheng Long? Screenshots were authentic...maybe info is too?

{PFH}-Lake
12-15-2007, 08:23 PM
I want to see Necro Vs Sim

chisin_Jong
12-16-2007, 10:14 AM
how old would ryu and ken be in this one .. in their 50s-60s LOL
or would this be a non-aging game??
anyway..
Guile,Blanka,akuma,dan, !!GUY!!
oh maybe some EX characters like Garuda

Infested Jester
12-16-2007, 10:44 AM
EX characters are owned by ARIKA, so you can pretty much forget about it. :shake: A shame too since guys like Garuda, Kairi, and D. Dark are fucking awesome.

RevFirst
12-16-2007, 11:02 AM
I'd just like these characters to return:
Ryu
Ken
Chun-Li
(Don't care much for Dhalsim.)
Hugo (Keep Poison with him.)
Akuma
Sakura (Wearing something different.)
Cammy
Blanka
Karin
Dudley
Cody
Alex
Urien (Wearing some clothes this time?)
Dan
Rolento

hellhound
12-16-2007, 11:18 AM
rolento and hugo would be awesome. Speed and strength.

Humbag
12-16-2007, 11:21 AM
Hugo and Zangief. Would be bad ass. However, I dono how it would be as possible since Hugo wasnt in the SF3 story since 2I. But isnt 2I supposed to basically be NG storyline wise? Im not sure!?!?!

shin_ryu
12-16-2007, 11:53 AM
how old would ryu and ken be in this one .. in their 50s-60s LOL
or would this be a non-aging game??
anyway..
Guile,Blanka,akuma,dan, !!GUY!!
oh maybe some EX characters like Garuda

this game takes place after SF2 and before SF3 so no...they would not be in their 50s-60s at all

KindredSpiritz
12-16-2007, 04:17 PM
I'd like:

Ryu
Ken
Chun Li
Dhalsim
Zangief
Sagat
Cammy
Akuma
Yun
Alex
Guy
Sheng Long
Poison

shin_ryu
12-16-2007, 08:33 PM
lol poison?! idk why people would wanna see a transvestite fighting...i guess whatever floats your boat man

KindredSpiritz
12-17-2007, 06:02 AM
lol poison?! idk why people would wanna see a transvestite fighting...i guess whatever floats your boat man

Why not? There's already a gay character, a transvestite shows that Capcom is in line with the times.

I was reading about Poison and it states he was in love with Cody awww.

RevFirst
12-17-2007, 09:50 AM
rolento and hugo would be awesome. Speed and strength.

*imagines Hugo stepping on him like he's some kind of bug* :confused: Random, I know.

Hugo and Zangief. Would be bad ass. However, I dono how it would be as possible since Hugo wasnt in the SF3 story since 2I. But isnt 2I supposed to basically be NG storyline wise? Im not sure!?!?!

Yeah, it's just Second Impact (overriding New Generations) and then Third Strike.

lol poison?! idk why people would wanna see a transvestite fighting...i guess whatever floats your boat man
...and...
Why not? There's already a gay character, a transvestite shows that Capcom is in line with the times.

I was reading about Poison and it states he was in love with Cody awww.
I'd actually like to see Poison playable. :rofl:
I don't care about diversity, I just like the character... But she better be portrayed properly in 3D and not looking/acting like some freaky DOA character.

hellhound
12-17-2007, 08:16 PM
Poison was suppose to be a playable character in capcom fighting all-stars. Plus she was a playable character in final fight revenge. So capcom at the very least have thought about her more than one occassion.

So it's possible she could appear.

hellhound
12-17-2007, 08:27 PM
Do you think SF4 should include rival school characters?

kev_the_bev
12-17-2007, 08:44 PM
though I still stand beside not overdosing on SF2 characters, they should bring back Dee Jay. not the biggest fan of the character himself, but I love the gameplay.

Do you think SF4 should include rival school characters?

no.

VariantX
12-17-2007, 09:12 PM
Sagat has to be in it NO MATTER FUCKING WHAT.

Chrno
12-17-2007, 09:22 PM
Do you think SF4 should include rival school characters?

YES! =) Just cameo appearance though. So that they can connect both Street Fighter and RS! Easter egg fun. That's all.

shin_ryu
12-17-2007, 10:40 PM
hell no sf4 should not have rival schools character in their game...if they do then im not even going to touch that game

Artayes
12-17-2007, 11:54 PM
Man,this is really sad if no third strikers make it in. I really loved the game and played it with a passion. It was hard not to enjoy the characters just because of how much fun and crazy it was too play with or against them. The more and more you got into playing third strike, the more and more you realized how in depth and technical the game really was.

It seems Capcom want to go back to the more easier way to play the game so everyone can enjoy it like street fighter 2. Thus, leaving out any characters that came after that game and that were much more advanced to play with. I feel like the third strikers deserve another shot(which sounds funny for me to say since i loved them the first time around), and should be included in the game.

So I would love for all of the third strikers to return, and put in DeeJay,T. Hawk,Fei Long and any other characters that seem to be unpopular or forgotten by Capcom into the game as well.

Jion_Wansu
12-17-2007, 11:55 PM
how old would ryu and ken be in this one .. in their 50s-60s LOL
or would this be a non-aging game??
anyway..
Guile,Blanka,akuma,dan, !!GUY!!
oh maybe some EX characters like Garuda

Story takes place between Super Turbo and SF3...

Does anyone remember where Capcom said that they were going to make SF Alpha 4 and that time line would have been the same time line as SF4?


Why not? There's already a gay character, a transvestite shows that Capcom is in line with the times.

I was reading about Poison and it states he was in love with Cody awww.

Let's add Roxy!!! Personally I'd like to see Abigail from Final Fight arcade version. That dude was tough. Hollywood and El Gato as well. Maybe even Two P.

MidgetT
12-18-2007, 12:35 AM
the only character i REALLY want to see return is gouki. seeing sagat or someone like him would be great as well.

supaman
12-18-2007, 09:09 AM
some older characters from sf1 would be cool though like geki, that monk, and the white dude with the red pants. I always wonder how they would transition

Cody Travers
12-18-2007, 09:16 AM
Cody
Guy
Sakura
Karin
Alex
Zangief

And probably some rival school characters can make a guest appearance.

What ever happen to Dean and Lucia for Final Fight 3?

KindredSpiritz
12-19-2007, 04:26 AM
Do you think SF4 should include rival school characters?

Definitely not!!

I dislike the fact Final Fight characters are in it, but I wouldn't mind one of them. As for Rival schools....if they could base some new character designs on some characters, I wouldn't mind that- but having them actually being in it...is a big mistake.

It's world warriors NOT Japanese highschool Warriors.

hellhound
12-19-2007, 05:47 PM
If sakura makes it to SF4 I would not mind seeing some rival school characters like in the background or something cheering her on.

hellhound
12-19-2007, 05:56 PM
Seeing as how we know the SF3 character story and endings which ones do you think has potential of coming to SF4? Which character does nto stand a chance to appear in SF4?

jabhadouken
12-19-2007, 06:09 PM
Man,this is really sad if no third strikers make it in. I really loved the game and played it with a passion. It was hard not to enjoy the characters just because of how much fun and crazy it was too play with or against them. The more and more you got into playing third strike, the more and more you realized how in depth and technical the game really was.

It seems Capcom want to go back to the more easier way to play the game so everyone can enjoy it like street fighter 2. Thus, leaving out any characters that came after that game and that were much more advanced to play with.

Um... no.

kev_the_bev
12-19-2007, 06:13 PM
rolento and hugo would be awesome. Speed and strength.

damn, I completely forgot that they're related to each other storyline wise.

shin_ryu
12-19-2007, 06:35 PM
It seems Capcom want to go back to the more easier way to play the game so everyone can enjoy it like street fighter 2.

i actually think that Artayes makes a really good point here

jabhadouken
12-19-2007, 07:49 PM
i actually think that Artayes makes a really good point here

I take it then that you believe SF3 to be deeper than SF2?

Each of us is free to his or her own opinion.

I happen to think SF2 was the deeper game.

shin_ryu
12-19-2007, 07:56 PM
hm...idk about deeper i think that sf3 had deeper gameplay obviously but just the story wasnt very good...the story in sf2 was better so each game has its "deep characteristics" i liked sf3 better though

Kataklysmic
12-19-2007, 08:59 PM
hm...idk about deeper i think that sf3 had deeper gameplay obviously

Ask any top player and they'll disagree.

Hotcarl6
12-19-2007, 09:23 PM
3rd strike had more gameplay elements so it was deeper. Now SF2 might be more strategic but its not as deep. spacing and timing were more strict in 2. I think all we need is the 16 from SSF2T and we need Mel and we need some new guys and some alpha 3 guys.

CyanideAssassin
12-19-2007, 09:34 PM
Urien, Makoto, Chun, Cammy, Guile.

goodm0urning
12-19-2007, 09:38 PM
3rd strike had more gameplay elements so it was deeper. Now SF2 might be more strategic but its not as deep. spacing and timing were more strict in 2.I like 3S as much as the next guy, but... no. Just no.

Kataklysmic
12-19-2007, 09:43 PM
3rd strike had more gameplay elements so it was deeper. Now SF2 might be more strategic but its not as deep. spacing and timing were more strict in 2. I think all we need is the 16 from SSF2T and we need Mel and we need some new guys and some alpha 3 guys.

Characters are the only gameplay elements that matter. SF3 ignored that completely. But if you can't understand that, there's nothing I can do because I don't want to turn this into another parry thread.

I don't care who's in SF4 personally, just as long as no bullshit tactics interfere with how they're supposed to be played.

jabhadouken
12-19-2007, 09:52 PM
Characters are the only gameplay elements that matter. SF3 ignored that completely. But if you can't understand that, there's nothing I can do because I don't want to turn this into another parry thread.

I don't care who's in SF4 personally, just as long as no bullshit tactics interfere with how they're supposed to be played.

Amen.

...though I'm still just a little leery of giving 12 a pass, lol.

Juboogie
12-20-2007, 09:13 AM
Call me a newbster if u want, but I cannot figure out who shen long is. I looked on wikipedia but he's not listed. Who is he?

shin_ryu
12-20-2007, 11:07 AM
Ask any top player and they'll disagree.

I'm sorry you're so l337 and cool

Lvl.3
12-20-2007, 11:38 AM
Call me a newbster if u want, but I cannot figure out who shen long is. I looked on wikipedia but he's not listed. Who is he?

Ryu's fist.

vasili10
12-20-2007, 06:09 PM
Call me a newbster if u want, but I cannot figure out who shen long is. I looked on wikipedia but he's not listed. Who is he?

Spelling. Try looking up Sheng Long. He's EGM's April Fool's joke of whom Ryu and Ken's teacher is.

Juboogie
12-20-2007, 06:45 PM
lol, thanks! Wow, for as long as i've been playing street fighter, i've never come across this, EVER!

"Capcom USA was taken in by the gag, and actually called Capcom of Japan to ask if Sheng Long was a legitimate character."

How classic, thats too funny. Thanks vasili.

hellhound
12-20-2007, 09:33 PM
Isn't one of ryu or kens quote is "you must defeat my sheng long to stand a chance"

I always hated the name sheng long. It's too close to fei long. I hope they use gouken instead.

hellhound
12-20-2007, 09:48 PM
In the article Ono said they would like to cram as many SF2 characters as possible. If you had to choose which SF2 character to not appear in SF4 who would that be?

vasili10
12-20-2007, 10:26 PM
lol, thanks! Wow, for as long as i've been playing street fighter, i've never come across this, EVER!

"Capcom USA was taken in by the gag, and actually called Capcom of Japan to ask if Sheng Long was a legitimate character."

How classic, thats too funny. Thanks vasili.

You're very welcome Juboogie.:china:

Isn't one of ryu or kens quote is "you must defeat my sheng long to stand a chance"

I always hated the name sheng long. It's too close to fei long. I hope they use gouken instead.

The quote had no "my" in it until the console versions more correctly revealed the quote.

arcade: "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance." EGM's joke fuel for Capcom USA's decision to do what it wanted.

consoles: "You must defeat my dragon punch to stand a chance." Closer to the original.

Kataklysmic
12-20-2007, 10:36 PM
I'm sorry you're so l337 and cool

WTF? :confused:

Sasmasta
12-20-2007, 10:59 PM
R.Mika.

Ouroborus
12-21-2007, 02:06 AM
i want rolento and vega back. off the wall shenanigans ftw

KindredSpiritz
12-22-2007, 06:42 AM
You're very welcome Juboogie.:china:



The quote had no "my" in it until the console versions more correctly revealed the quote.

arcade: "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance." EGM's joke fuel for Capcom USA's decision to do what it wanted.

consoles: "You must defeat my dragon punch to stand a chance." Closer to the original.

In the recent Brazillian info leak from blogeek, it cites as part of the new info "Sheng Long may be in it...we are NOT kidding."

So Vasili, would you say this is false? Or another EGM fabrication? Remember this is from the same info that cited it would be set between SF II and III which is true!

vasili10
12-22-2007, 11:02 AM
In the recent Brazillian info leak from blogeek, it cites as part of the new info "Sheng Long may be in it...we are NOT kidding."

So Vasili, would you say this is false? Or another EGM fabrication? Remember this is from the same info that cited it would be set between SF II and III which is true!

I honestly don't know KindredSpiritz. EGM's a far cry from what it used to be in terms of SF knowledge, if their WTFiction article they recently released is any indication, as well as any of their other "4 Weeks of SF4" articles. You can't tell if they're out to bluff everyone, or if they've gone over the deep end.

DRCsyntax
12-22-2007, 12:49 PM
Not really reading the argument of deepness, I have my own predictions and hopes.

Returning people:
Ryu
Akuma
Ken
Chun-Li
Dhalsim
Vega
Balrog
Gief
(They have to show the affects that Bison's death after SFII will have on his former underlings, hence they might return)

New Entrants:
Yun or Yang, but not both of them, and I think we'll see Yang for story. (They also replace any chance of Guy making a comeback, though their styles were different)

Sakura, though I REALLY REALLY doubt it, by the time we get to SFIV, from the time of Alpha, she'd be in her twenties, and most speculate she went to college, I'd to see her, but I doubt it.

Sean or Dan. One of them has to show up, Sean might've been at the beginning of his training here, or Dan at the end of his lifespan from his stupid actions.

Sagat or ADON!? God, I'd love it if Adon made a surprise appearance to take on Akuma, that'd be an awesome plot hole correction, since we don't know what happened after Alpha3 and he wasn't in SFII. Can't have both though, they still don't like each other, and Adon already beat Sagat for Muy Thai Emporer title; even though Sagat shows up SFII.

Cammy AND Guile: Everyone wants the Guile copies to stop, we want to hear the line after winning "Go home and be a family man!". Cammy....we need more than one girl.


Definately won't make an appearance: Gill, Alex, Urien, Makoto, Ibuki (I wish), Oro, Hugo, Remy, Elena, Twelve, Q, Necro, and Dudely.

Why?
Gill IS the SF III Host, he can't possibly show up in the middle, stupid plot device.
Urien is directly related to the Gill branch of the story, if Gill won't show, there's no reason for Urien.
Makoto there is no real reason she'd be there, if anything her dad might.
Ibuki has absolutely no ties to any SF character, no plot, no story, she was the SFIII Sakura. Though I love her.
Oro if he showed up there'd be an Akuma vs Oro fight, but it's already in the plot of SFIII, which means it'd happen twice, but Akuma only went to SFIII Tourny to find Oro, so that's out.

Necro and Twelve, were made by Gill's and Urien's organization, no point in them showing up.

Dudely is only in SFIII to fight Gill and if Balrog comes back, well, we can't have to two Token Boxers.

Q .....um....someone tell me where how he fights into anything.

Hugo, Remy, and Elena all have replacements, except Elena, who had almost no reason to show up in SFIII other than making friends....good enough reason to scratch her.


HOWEVER, I believe almost all SFIII characters who do not make the roster will A)Be some kind of "Secret" character, or some kind of bonus fight. B)Be in the stage backgrounds like the Alpha series did (Hugo) or C)Be involved in the endings of certain characters.


Everyone has their opinions and hopes, but eh, these are my thoughts.

Personally, i think this game will revolve around Ryu trying to find and fight Akuma once more, or something along the shoto storyline.

At the end of the SFII tournament, Akuma kills Bison, possibly in front of everyone; this would let Ryu and Ken both know that Akuma is back from his little seclusive disappearance at the end of the Alpha Series/Alpha 2.

Another storyline possibility is that we'll see why Alex became the main character of SFIII, yes I said Gill wouldn't be there, but Alex's friend might, since he gets hurt...or something, I forgot honestly, never cared for SFIII storyline.

Also Makoto's dad dies at some point I think, making her the leader of his dojo, and her reason for seeking a fight with Ryu.

ANYWAY, this is a backtrack game, and plot hole filler. The game is losing parries, which I think is gay, "safety" moves or whatever sound kinda stupid and overpowered in my opinion. Which will change the flow of the game.

Huzzah, I'm done......cause upon retro spec I contradicted myself like three times back there.

TheDarkPhoenix
12-22-2007, 12:59 PM
makoto
Sakura
Rose
cody

KindredSpiritz
12-22-2007, 02:50 PM
A good guess would be:

Most Street Fighter 2 characters:

Like Ryu, Ken, Chun Li, Dhalsim, Zangief, Balrog, Sagat, Vega (ninjitsu), Akuma. etc.

Perhaps one Street Fighter 1 character.

Hardly any Street Fighter Alpha and maybe 1 or 2 SF III Characters.

One Final Fight Character.

And all the rest new...


I hope we find out who Q is!

Rioting Soul
12-22-2007, 10:31 PM
Q NEEDS to be in this game. So he can jump off of Ken's boat before they fight.

rush down
12-22-2007, 11:14 PM
I want Q to be in the game, but a different variant. There needs to be some reason why he wasn't in the first 2 3rd strike games.

Ideas
A different version of Q, some kind of proto type. We can cal him "Qritical"!! (assuming hes a robot)
The suit was in a earlier stage (assuming its a suit)
The suit wasn't even made yet, and the person inside is just trying to do his best without it (assuming its a suit.)

I would be cool with any of these just as long as I get more Q story. They don't even have to say its Q, just put him in and don't explain it. What if its a chick!!! That would blow my mind more than metroid did!!

KindredSpiritz
12-23-2007, 05:23 AM
Anyone else hear those rumours that Q is actually a SF II character like Balrog or M. Bison. After the fall of Shadaloo and the rise of illuminati it was then Q came out of the shadows!

Anyway slightly off the Q topic, Yoshi Ono has stated in an Edge magazine interview that he's trying to get everyone from Super Street Fighter II Turbo returning, including Akuma that would be 17 characters and with new characters expect over 20 warriors. I suppose a similar number to Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha 1. But who's knows, it could be over 30 like Alpha 3.

Hellion
12-23-2007, 12:36 PM
Yoshi Ono has stated in an Edge magazine interview that he's trying to get everyone from Super Street Fighter II Turbo returning
Fuck yeah man, Sonic Booms all day:rock:

Lonewolf_Fenrir
12-23-2007, 05:20 PM
I'm still wondering how they're going to make Dhalsim come back storyline wise...
Although i'm pretty happy with it, i've always liked him.
But i don't think we'll see M.Bison(dic) again since he's supposed to have been killed by Akuma (too bad, he's my second favorite char from SSF2T).
Anyway, wouldn't over 20 characters be more than any first Street Fighter game ?
The first Street Fighter EX only had 10 ^^

Rioting Soul
12-23-2007, 05:48 PM
I'm still wondering how they're going to make Dhalsim come back storyline wise...
Although i'm pretty happy with it, i've always liked him.
But i don't think we'll see M.Bison(dic) again since he's supposed to have been killed by Akuma (too bad, he's my second favorite char from SSF2T).
Anyway, wouldn't over 20 characters be more than any first Street Fighter game ?
The first Street Fighter EX only had 10 ^^

Well, they could pull a Nightmare Geese with Bison.

The Epidemic
12-23-2007, 05:52 PM
Well, they could pull a Nightmare Geese with Bison.

bring back Lady Une...

KindredSpiritz
12-24-2007, 10:12 AM
I'm still wondering how they're going to make Dhalsim come back storyline wise...
Although i'm pretty happy with it, i've always liked him.
But i don't think we'll see M.Bison(dic) again since he's supposed to have been killed by Akuma (too bad, he's my second favorite char from SSF2T).
Anyway, wouldn't over 20 characters be more than any first Street Fighter game ?
The first Street Fighter EX only had 10 ^^

Wha?? The first Street Fighter EX had over 20 characters!

I wondered why Yoshinori Ono would say he would include all the SF characters from SSF Turbo if it's set between II and III, wouldn't that mean M.Bison is dead?

It's interesting to see what happened to a lot of the characters before SF III.

KindredSpiritz
12-24-2007, 10:22 AM
I'm still wondering how they're going to make Dhalsim come back storyline wise...
Although i'm pretty happy with it, i've always liked him.
But i don't think we'll see M.Bison(dic) again since he's supposed to have been killed by Akuma (too bad, he's my second favorite char from SSF2T).
Anyway, wouldn't over 20 characters be more than any first Street Fighter game ?
The first Street Fighter EX only had 10 ^^

Wha?? The first Street Fighter EX had over 20 characters!

I wondered why Yoshinori Ono would say he would include all the SF characters from SSF Turbo if it's set between II and III, wouldn't that mean M.Bison is dead?

As for Dhalsim, he has one of the best reasons to return even if SF IV was a sequel, wherever there's evil he's there to defeat it!


It's interesting to see what happened to a lot of the characters before SF III.

Are_you_okay?!
12-24-2007, 10:24 AM
It's interesting to see what happened to a lot of the characters before SF III.

Agreed, I want to know what was resolved and why some people don't appear in III, and how stuff in III happened. Like the Illuminati coming to power and other stuff.

I really couldn't see Guile making a return, since his stuff was resolved in the last tournament, if you believe he won or what not. It would still mean Bison is dead, so what exactly would he do? But I love using him, so I'm sure he'll have a kickass reason for being here and will use his retarded catch phrases like "Rice Barrel" and such.

Lonewolf_Fenrir
12-24-2007, 10:34 AM
Wha?? The first Street Fighter EX had over 20 characters!
Not.
Maybe Ex + Alpha did, but Ex didn't.

KindredSpiritz
12-24-2007, 10:48 AM
Agreed, I want to know what was resolved and why some people don't appear in III, and how stuff in III happened. Like the Illuminati coming to power and other stuff.

I really couldn't see Guile making a return, since his stuff was resolved in the last tournament, if you believe he won or what not.

Yeah true!!

That's what I wanna know! How can characters from SF II return if their storylines are resolved?

M.Bison is dead...

Guile is dragged home by his family...

Blanka discovers his mum...

E. Honda just eats...

Are_you_okay?!
12-24-2007, 10:53 AM
I like the idea of Nightmare Geesing M.Bison, but I would like a new villain to come up and cause a ruckus. Maybe a younger Gill, I believe I am one of the few people that find him intruiging as a character, he's like if ronald mcdonald colored jesus and gave him a superiority complex.

Blanka and E.Honda I could see return, Blanka could be a champion to kids or something and wants to show people what he can do. E. Honda would try to get the yokozuna title or w.e and could prove himself in this tournament.

KindredSpiritz
12-24-2007, 11:00 AM
People are estimating that Gouken or Sheng Long in the game would be the boss. Ono said he would liek to see Gouken to be in the game...but I don't see how that's gonna happen, didn't Gouken die between 1 and 2?

Are_you_okay?!
12-24-2007, 12:47 PM
If Gouken was ever alive during a games time period, it would be Alpha 2, being an extension of the Alpha 1 story, though I think he died before.

KindredSpiritz
12-24-2007, 01:19 PM
Ono cited the EGM issue one of EGM pranks would become a reality. EGM is interpreting that as Sheng Long (known as Gouken officially), it would mean Gouken didn't die after unless he dies in between SF II and III? (SF IV).

goodm0urning
12-24-2007, 01:26 PM
Ono cited the EGM issue one of EGM pranks would become a reality. EGM is interpreting that as Sheng Long (known as Gouken officially), it would mean Gouken didn't die after unless he dies in between SF II and III? (SF IV).I am personally hoping that SFIV will be compatible with the Game Shortz.

Shinigami Zero
12-24-2007, 01:33 PM
I am curious to see whether or not they do put Gouken in the game. I know that SF isn't the most story conscious title but if they just throw him in there without justification I would be a little disappointed.

The only way I am able to see Gouken being able to make an appearance in the game is through some sort of "dream state" battle for Ryu, Ken, or Akuma.

In what ways do you all think they'd be able to squeeze Gouken into SF IV?

KindredSpiritz
12-24-2007, 03:32 PM
As I have stated the only way I can see Gouken returning canon wise is that he is not dead until between SF II and III when Akuma arrives on the scene after killing M.Bison!

Or he's a new boss and evil?

vasili10
12-24-2007, 04:30 PM
People are estimating that Gouken or Sheng Long in the game would be the boss. Ono said he would liek to see Gouken to be in the game...but I don't see how that's gonna happen, didn't Gouken die between 1 and 2?

Yes he did. Before he was given his name however, he bought the farm before even SF1.

Sasmasta
12-24-2007, 04:37 PM
One thing's for sure. I ain't gonna believe SHI* in the coming April edition of EGM [regarding SFIV]. :shake:

Kataklysmic
12-24-2007, 05:42 PM
Pyron wasn't supposed to be in VS but they put him in as a secret character. They can do the same with Gouken or any dead character they like.

Lonewolf_Fenrir
12-24-2007, 06:37 PM
As I have stated the only way I can see Gouken returning canon wise is that he is not dead until between SF II and III when Akuma arrives on the scene after killing M.Bison!

Or he's a new boss and evil?
See vasili10's post.
@Sasmasta: yeah me neither ^^ but that will definitely be a mag to get, hehe some silly joke about sheng long again ? Or something brand new ? ^^

MaybeMemories
12-25-2007, 05:44 AM
rolento

Infested Jester
12-25-2007, 06:13 AM
Gouken is possible, anyone can be brought back.

Two words.....Nightmare Geese.

KindredSpiritz
12-25-2007, 07:56 AM
Stop howling Geese all the time, he's from a different videogame, they don't always have the same storylines.

Infested Jester
12-25-2007, 10:36 AM
Stop howling Geese all the time, he's from a different videogame, they don't always have the same storylines.

You missed the point there chief. :rolleyes:

Lonewolf_Fenrir
12-25-2007, 10:46 AM
Gouken is possible, anyone can be brought back.

Two words.....Nightmare Geese.

That would suck though.
Unless they have a really really good reason (like bringing his ghost or something, because i don't see akuma missing his target, unless Gouken had a secret technique to nullify the SGS).

Infested Jester
12-25-2007, 12:47 PM
That would suck though.
Unless they have a really really good reason (like bringing his ghost or something, because i don't see akuma missing his target, unless Gouken had a secret technique to nullify the SGS).

Not 100% sure, but wasn't Nightmare Geese just that...a "Nightmare" Meaning, it was a match in the game, but not in the actual Fatal Fury world. I don't see why this can't be done with Gouken in some manner. Who cares if he's dead, make it a dream or some shit, at least we'll get him in some game form finally.

Lonewolf_Fenrir
12-25-2007, 12:54 PM
I admit i don't know shit about Fatal Fury's storyline x) only played the first one and Motw...

Kataklysmic
12-25-2007, 06:35 PM
That would suck though.
Unless they have a really really good reason (like bringing his ghost or something, because i don't see akuma missing his target, unless Gouken had a secret technique to nullify the SGS).

They don't need a reason, just make Gouken a bonus character. Like Pyron in VS.

vasili10
12-25-2007, 09:44 PM
unless Gouken had a secret technique to nullify the SGS).

He wouldn't necessarily need one, and could likely treat the SGS the same way Gen did.

Lonewolf_Fenrir
12-26-2007, 06:46 AM
Hmm you're right...
Well time will tell :)

KindredSpiritz
12-27-2007, 03:38 PM
Characters I think they have so far...

Ryu, Ken, Dhalsim, Chun Li, Gouken, Akuma, Blanka, Zangief...

shin_ryu
12-28-2007, 12:43 AM
i highly doubt this game is going to have gouken....as much as i would like to see him

Sasmasta
12-28-2007, 12:59 AM
THE GIEF! :rock:

That's :cool:.

TenorFighter
12-28-2007, 01:04 AM
Man its good to knoe they are making another SF game.

Well my favs are Fei Long and Gen. really unique characters IMO Especially GEn and his different fighting styles. Maybe they can do another cahracter like him.


My favs
Fei Long
Karin
Yun and Yang. I guess I like the more agile characters.

Sasmasta
12-28-2007, 02:51 AM
I'm thinking they'll have Karin in this game as well as Sakura maybe. Prolly finish off their stories or something so fans can stop wondering 'WHAT HAPPENED TO SAKURA?'

Last time she was seen, Ryu fought Scorpion. :nunchuck:

KindredSpiritz
12-28-2007, 08:34 AM
i highly doubt this game is going to have gouken....as much as i would like to see him

Well Ono has more or less confirmed EGM's prank Sheng Long to be in it without going into some detail to 1UP, whether Sheng Long is actually Gouken time will tell.

Rioting Soul
12-29-2007, 01:43 AM
If SF4 is going to have no airblocking, then does that mean Akuma will be a no-show? Or maybe Akuma's gonna be like, "I'm so beastly that I'm not gonna use air fireballs this time"?

goodm0urning
12-29-2007, 02:47 AM
If SF4 is going to have no airblocking, then does that mean Akuma will be a no-show? Or maybe Akuma's gonna be like, "I'm so beastly that I'm not gonna use air fireballs this time"?Akuma's definitely going to be More Beastly. But perhaps the game will include an air fireball with a steep downward angle, rather than the ultra-dominant shallow angled fireball from ST.

KindredSpiritz
12-29-2007, 05:10 AM
There isn't actual confirmation that Akuma is going to be in it. The only confirmed characters are Ryu, Ken, Chun Li and Dhalsim. Akuma will be in it most likely but until he's confirmed speculating about his new special moves should be the least of what matters.

Arxinal
12-29-2007, 12:31 PM
Guile, Guile and Guile.

Shinkuu Tatsumaki
12-29-2007, 04:16 PM
I'm thinking they'll have Karin in this game as well as Sakura maybe. Prolly finish off their stories or something so fans can stop wondering 'WHAT HAPPENED TO SAKURA?'

Last time she was seen, Ryu fought Scorpion. :nunchuck:

Supposedly Sakura quit street fighting to go to college. Maybe in SF4 she will be done and resume her street fighting. Who knows?

Hellion
12-29-2007, 08:51 PM
Supposedly Sakura quit street fighting to go to college. Maybe in SF4 she will be done and resume her street fighting. Who knows?

Maybe she dropped everything altogether, including her clothes, and took up stripping. Hence her backgound appearance in a nightclub stage.

WTFSHINRYUKEN
12-29-2007, 09:13 PM
alright, heres what i'm talkin about

Gen
Guy
Karin
Yang
FEI LONG
Violent Ken
Vega
Alex
Geki
Ibuki
Lee



PERFECT
(ALRIGHT, THATS GREAT!!)

Thats what I'm talkin about.

it also might be interesting to see Kairi and Garuda, I don't care what doesn't balance, what story line doesnt mix blah blah. Garuda had a really sweet character design imho.

oh, and of course Zero. no ifs and or buts. he would be domination station.

Henaki
12-29-2007, 09:53 PM
all i want for my birthday is urien to be in the game

give him some pants if you must!

SweetJohnnyV
12-30-2007, 06:31 AM
I just watched the SF4 video again, and I had a rather random thought. In the beginning of the video, they played a montage of clips from SFA, SF2, and SF3 with that catchy 1-UP theme song. Anyway, it got me wondering if they chose clips with characters that they knew would be in SF4. The characters they showed were:

Akuma
Blanka
Cammy
Chun-Li
Claw
Dhalsim
Dictator
E.Honda
Guile
Guy
Hugo
Ken
Remy
Rose
Ryu
Sakura
Sean


It's kinda reaching, I know. But I'm sure these guys do know more than they're allowed to say. Just a thought...

KindredSpiritz
12-30-2007, 07:40 AM
I just watched the SF4 video again, and I had a rather random thought. In the beginning of the video, they played a montage of clips from SFA, SF2, and SF3 with that catchy 1-UP theme song. Anyway, it got me wondering if they chose clips with characters that they knew would be in SF4. The characters they showed were:

Akuma
Blanka
Cammy
Chun-Li
Claw
Dhalsim
Dictator
E.Honda
Guile
Guy
Hugo
Ken
Remy
Rose
Ryu
Sakura
Sean


It's kinda reaching, I know. But I'm sure these guys do know more than they're allowed to say. Just a thought...

Nah,

They're just random clips of different SF's over the years. As I say, chances are we won't see any SF III characters or Alpha ones, it will be SF II characters and new original ones.

What we know is this, when EGM covered this story in October it was about 2 % complete, European magazines estimate it's now 10-12% complete. The official characters confirmed are Ryu, Ken , Chun Li and Dhalsim. They're confirmed for a reason, because they're the ones actually completed...Alls they have now are sketch rosters, though they do hint that one SF character looks amazing, so maybe a one or two characters more are completed by now.

SweetJohnnyV
12-30-2007, 01:09 PM
As I say, chances are we won't see any SF III characters or Alpha ones, it will be SF II characters and new original ones.

I don't care as much about the rest, but I really hope Sakura is in it :sweat:

Shinkuu Tatsumaki
12-30-2007, 01:15 PM
If Sakura doesn't return, one of the new chars better be just as good!

ushio18
01-02-2008, 04:20 PM
Cammy, Vega, Sakura, Rose, Bison, Sagat, Honda, Dhalsim.

thekidfromLBC
01-02-2008, 04:32 PM
Wow i just noticed this thread :sweat:.....But any ways here's some of the characters i want to see: guile,deejay,honda, blanka, sakura, vega, balrog,rose and gen...along with everyone else...

evilj
01-02-2008, 04:56 PM
I want rolento and karin in this game.

thekidfromLBC
01-02-2008, 06:38 PM
What ever happened to Eagle?? he hasnt aapeared since Street Fighter....I hope he's in SFIV

Sasmasta
01-02-2008, 06:42 PM
I doubt they'll bring back Eagle, but then again, who knows? :xeye:

*Onslaught*
01-02-2008, 06:44 PM
As long as I get my Cammy fix I'm good. I really wish they would have just grabbed the most popular characters in the entire series than just the SF2 cast.

thekidfromLBC
01-02-2008, 06:46 PM
I doubt they'll bring back Eagle, but then again, who knows? :xeye:

They put him in Capcom vs Snk 2 but not Street fighter?...Capcom<====:arazz:

goodm0urning
01-02-2008, 06:56 PM
He was in one of the versions of SFA3.

thekidfromLBC
01-02-2008, 06:58 PM
He was in one of the versions of SFA3.

the psp version i think..SFA3 MAX....

BTW, did akuma ever beat gen (storywise) the second time they met?

Sasmasta
01-03-2008, 05:59 AM
Gamewise, I don't know. Comic-wise, Akuma and Gen fought eachother, then I think Gen walked off and later died. I don't know if it was due to injuries from the fight or from his sickness though. Prolly wrong though. It's been awhile. WHOOPSIE! [wrong game]

Another List For Me

-Cody
-Hugo
-Makoto [she might be too young though. Maybe her pops?]
-Urien
-Zangief

That's it for now. :cool:

Hol Horse
01-03-2008, 06:33 AM
Now that they use a 3d graphics engine, they have to put in someone from God Hand, as God Hand is the spiritual 3d successor of Final Fight

I want Gene and Axel (they can split Gene's huge movelist between those two), and human form of Elvis would be awesome too.

chisin_Jong
01-03-2008, 07:39 AM
they did say they gonna add more females into it.. so im guessing sakura and other new females are going to be in it

TheDarkPhoenix
01-03-2008, 08:56 AM
im expecting 3 more new female characters which has me thinking, cammy which could mean maybe meanRose will be there as well.

I'm hoping for sakura/makoto/elena but they did say "new" characters so i doubt =(

Makoto's dad would be cool too, long as his command grab is one handed!!!

Lvl.3
01-03-2008, 12:36 PM
I just watched the SF4 video again, and I had a rather random thought. In the beginning of the video, they played a montage of clips from SFA, SF2, and SF3 with that catchy 1-UP theme song. Anyway, it got me wondering if they chose clips with characters that they knew would be in SF4. The characters they showed were:

Akuma
Blanka
Cammy
Chun-Li
Claw
Dhalsim
Dictator
E.Honda
Guile
Guy
Hugo
Ken
Remy
Rose
Ryu
Sakura
Sean


It's kinda reaching, I know. But I'm sure these guys do know more than they're allowed to say. Just a thought...

Like someone said, just abunch of random clips.

This would be the cast I would have chosen. OC, SF4 would be after 3 too :wgrin:
NG/SF3: alex,makoto,sean,ibuki,yun,elena,ibuki,yang,Dudley
Sf2: Zangief,Chun-Li,Ryu,DeeJay,Ken,Dhalsim,Honda,Fei-Long, Cammy.
6 new guys and akuma.

Hawk
01-03-2008, 01:24 PM
It occured to me today.

Please don't let a lump sum of the normal characters need to be unlocked. That happens with all the fighting games nowadays. :tdown:

thekidfromLBC
01-03-2008, 03:40 PM
Gamewise, I don't know. Comic-wise, Akuma and Gen fought eachother, then I think Gen walked off and later died. I don't know if it was due to injuries from the fight or from his sickness though. Prolly wrong though. It's been awhile. WHOOPSIE! [wrong game]
hmmm..interesting, cause i know the first time akuma left cause gen was sick, then i heard gen found akuma to fight to the death...oh well who knows what happended..:confused:

they did say they gonna add more females into it.. so im guessing sakura and other new females are going to be in it
females eh? well chun-li, sakura and cammy have to be on...:lovin:

player2
01-04-2008, 10:12 AM
How would hardcore storyline followers feel about having Tom (Alex's friend/trainer) as a playable character? This might help with bridging II to III.

And another thing, if they're going to include SF2 characters, why not include the first two characters you see when you turn a SF2 cabinet on? Yes, I do mean Mike and Joe. I'm sure Mike would like a rematch with Joe after that 1-hit KO in the SF2 intro.

(BTW: were those two characters in the first Street Fighter?)

Sasmasta
01-04-2008, 10:21 AM
Not a bad idea, but I rather play as Alex and bridge the storyline from there. :wonder:

And LoL to the rematch idea. Hell yeah 'Mike' would want that rematch! :nunchuck:

Note: I did not know their names...

vasili10
01-04-2008, 11:34 AM
(BTW: were those two characters in the first Street Fighter?)

Yes they were.

AudioCG
01-04-2008, 12:05 PM
Heck I expect a damn HUGE roster, 18+ chars, its only taken a bagillion years for SF4 to get made, make it hardcore damnit.:wgrin:

Pieguy
01-04-2008, 12:24 PM
So whose guaranteed to be in the game (Sorry if it was already covered)?

Ryu
Ken
Dhalsim
Chun-li
Sagat
Vega (US)
Blanka
Honda
Guile
Zangief
Cammy (too many people like her, it's just going to happen)
Akuma (same reason as Cammy even tho he's not original)

Anybody else pretty much guaranteed a seat even though they're not original? I'm pretty sure we'll see Sakura cause her popularity is nuts. I wonder about bison and balrog though cause one's dead, and the other just never gets any play.

I'd really like to see T-Hawke and Fei Long back but I'm not holding my breath.

Kousotsu
01-04-2008, 03:09 PM
I would like to see everone from SS2T & SA3. +
Alex
Elena
Ibuki
Oro
Hugo
Makoto
Yun
Yang
Sean
Dudley
Evil Ken
Adult Sakura
Adult Karin



The characters I don't want to see

Twelve
Gill
Remy
Necro
Urien
Q

vasili10
01-04-2008, 04:05 PM
Makoto Tsumura


Where did you find that her last name is Tsumura?:confused: