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DanielLarusso
10-17-2007, 08:10 PM
And should they play the same?

NO AKUMA! NO DAN! NO SAGAT!

Sorry, but no more than two Shotos or Shoto-clones, and it looks like we already got ken and ryu! Why? Because of the variety of gameplay. UNLESS, this game plays nothing like SF as we know it, or the characters no longer play anything like each other.

Also, I think you need Chun Li, and to a much lesser extent Guile. You need Chun Li because she's a star on the level of the two shotos, and is a strong female presence. If you bring back Guile, he should NOT play the same.

Guile has been the same guy with the same two moves since Jesus walked the earth, and he will just make a new game feel like you're still playing an ancient one and ruin any "new-ness" from the feel of the game.

gbursine
10-17-2007, 08:11 PM
you need guile so that americans have a character they can play 0_0

DanielLarusso
10-17-2007, 08:14 PM
you need guile so that americans have a character they can play 0_0

This is true.

And mods you can delete this thread since you took that power away from thread starters (still don't understand that one). There is already a character thread.

squirtle.squad
10-17-2007, 08:15 PM
And should they play the same?

NO AKUMA! NO DAN! NO SAGAT!

Sorry, but no more than two Shotos or Shoto-clones, and it looks like we already got ken and ryu! Why? Because of the variety of gameplay. UNLESS, this game plays nothing like SF as we know it, or the characters no longer play anything like each other.

Also, I think you need Chun Li, and to a much lesser extent Guile. You need Chun Li because she's a star on the level of the two shotos, and is a strong female presence. If you bring back Guile, he should NOT play the same.

Guile has been the same guy with the same two moves since Jesus walked the earth, and he will just make a new game feel like you're still playing an ancient one and ruin any "new-ness" from the feel of the game.

you need akuma. he is the almighty badass of street fighter.
thats like having DBZ without vegeta.


imo, we need all of them except dan. if this game is still following the storyline, Sagat and ryu still have a score to settle.

and, ryu and akuma will always face off. its the never ending battle of good vs evil.


yes, add new players, but dont eliminate the key roles of your franchise storyline =P


now guile.. eh... iono... he is the win though

sergio.
10-17-2007, 08:22 PM
Akuma plays completely differently than Ryu and Ken, just dresses the same.

parallaxscroll
10-17-2007, 08:24 PM
basicly ALL the *classic* Street Fighter II characters. I could go with, or without the Super SFII "New Challengers". I don't really care either way. I hope SF4 is *not* like SFIII (as much as I like aspects of III) where you have Ryu, Ken and a totally new cast of characters.

Gotta have Guile, Chun-Li, E Honda, Dhalsim, Blanka, Zangief, Balrog, Vega and Sagot . okay.....M. Bison can be dumped.


I want not just the classic SFII cast back, but also their backgrounds, re-rendered in stylish new 2D. very colorful, lots of background scrolling layers (woo!).



that's my dream and I know SF4 could turn out very different from what I want.

TS
10-17-2007, 08:33 PM
SF is fine without Akuma, or having him be relatively unplayable like ST.

No Sakura. I like Sak, but I don't want to see her grown up. Let it go.

No kids of main characters. I've heard the suggestion more than I would like. That shit is corny. This is not fanfiction. I'm sure you like Mel or Datta or Amy or whoever, but, no. Old characters are one thing, new characters are another, but you can't really go in-between like that, moreso if they aren't characters from another game (Guy, Kyosuke, Maki etc).

edit- Akuma vs Guile:
Akuma is fundamentally a shoto clone. As time passes he plays more differently from Ryu/Ken, but he's in a completely different situation from Guile. Guile is not only visually distinguishable and more popular overall, but he actually plays [more] differently, and so I just feel like he would add more to the game.

Bluesman461
10-17-2007, 08:47 PM
I'm sure there will be a grappler type, but I really want Zangief in this one. Hugo didn't really cut it for me...something about the old school guys that have so much character. I really want Zangief, Dhalsim, and Sagat in this.

F.Y.C.N.
10-17-2007, 08:49 PM
i'd like to see Alex return and Ibuki... most of the SF2 cast should make a comeback but i'd like to see mainly new characters in the mix

angelslayer13
10-17-2007, 08:50 PM
i guess I should cross my fingers for a luchador type character I mean most fighters have one so why not

nf0x
10-17-2007, 08:53 PM
I bet sf4 is going to have a huge cast. Remember folks, this is most likely going to be on ps3, whose potential isn't even yet visible. Capcom won't waste an entire blue ray disc on graphics.

Character wise, I can't imagine omitting of gief. I can see most every other character not making the cut for one reason or another, but capcom has never done their grapplers justice, and they deserve one last chance.

xXx$HIN-GIEFxXx
10-17-2007, 08:58 PM
Sorry I can't take part in your thread, I only want a all Akuma Vs Saget SF4.

Mango91
10-17-2007, 10:13 PM
I kinda hope no one returns and that they start fresh.

woof
10-17-2007, 10:14 PM
no chun

DanielLarusso
10-17-2007, 10:16 PM
I love TS' idea of making Akuma nonplayable. I'd rather have the game WITHOUT Akuma, but if he must be in there for story or marketing purposes or what have you, he should non-playable Super Turbo style, where the only time you saw him is if certain conditions were met.

When a hidden character becomes playable, he loses a certain something that made him a badass to begin with. Its time to bring Akuma back to that level.

Oh and sorry, no Guy, Haggar, Cody, Maki or whoever, the game should be Street Fighter to the core and the only non-SF series characters should be new ones made specifically for this game, thus making them SF series characters.

Save all that other shit for Capcom Vs. Whoever 3.

CoMeBaCk386
10-17-2007, 10:19 PM
i personally want to see honda, gief, n rog back in the picture.. balrog will beat the shit outta dudley lol n hugo cant match gief ever... we need to bring SF2 characters back forreal

Hard Edge
10-17-2007, 10:20 PM
Hugo rocks Gief up and down. All day long.

Shodokan123
10-17-2007, 10:21 PM
i personally want to see honda, gief, n rog back in the picture.. balrog will beat the shit outta dudley lol n hugo cant match gief ever... we need to bring SF2 characters back forreal

dudley's mixup game is far superior to the charger's

Kampfer
10-17-2007, 11:08 PM
Guile has been the same guy with the same two moves since Jesus walked the earth, and he will just make a new game feel like you're still playing an ancient one and ruin any "new-ness" from the feel of the game.

awww hell no!

guile should ONLY have those 2 moves... that's what makes him special... every other character could have spent the past 10 years of their life, re-inventing themselves and their art.... but guile will still be using the 2 damn same moves...

if they really want to change guile... they should give him 100 normals, 10 supers, but still only 2 specials... cuz that's what makes him guile...

Gasp
10-17-2007, 11:14 PM
no guile? get the fuck out of my america

Chozen1
10-18-2007, 12:25 AM
I'd say dhalsim although most of you won't agree, I think he'd play an important role. Just my 2 cents

9TNine
10-18-2007, 12:26 AM
As long as Vega's back...

-9

Kix
10-18-2007, 12:31 AM
Someone with Aegis Reflector.

snakedizzle209
10-18-2007, 01:28 AM
Yes: Shotos, Chun (not like 3s), Guile, Sagat, Sakura, Cammy, Yun, Yang

No: Vega

no guile? get the fuck out of my america

lol, my thoughts exactly.

Ephidel
10-18-2007, 01:43 AM
I don't think I'll miss dan that much.

DevilJin 01
10-18-2007, 01:54 AM
Plz God No Ibuki.

Yos
10-18-2007, 02:54 AM
Add Vega and Bison

MaybeMemories
10-18-2007, 03:02 AM
i think a new cast is order, sticking to some PRIME classic characters,
RYU,KEN,CHUNLI, GUILE, SAKURA then new people. Making Mbison the main boss again [who the fuck is GILL?]

saying that id love to see the old characters with new moves and new sprites but for the sake of the game being FRESH read above

Ouroborus
10-18-2007, 03:04 AM
we need vega and rolento.

i personally want charlie and rose back but technically those 2 are dead.

Shadowstep
10-18-2007, 03:06 AM
Leave Akuma alone, if they put Guy in the game....I'm killing everybody!!!!!

crazydiamond
10-18-2007, 03:29 AM
No: Guile, Zangief, Dhalsim, E.Honda, Blanka, Vega, Balrog, M.Bison.

No: Street Fighter Zero cast. That isn't Ryu, Ken, Chun Li, Sagat or Gouki.

No 3s cast that isn't the above or Makoto.

No SF1 cast that isn't the above or Retsu.

Ki Shima
10-18-2007, 03:40 AM
REALISTICALLY.

what would be best is if most of the characters were new, but with ryu, ken, chun, and older sakura in the line up.

but with some of the world warriors as mid bosses, older dhalsim, older guile, older fei long, balrog, older vega, sagat, honda.

anyone else should be added in a newer version of the game.

btw i think cody should be a starting character.

Khaotika!
10-18-2007, 06:57 AM
I want characters that make sense in the storyline. If they had their story finished at the end of previous games, either invent a REALLY good reason for them to be back, or just leave them out.

Lobelia Mk. IV
10-18-2007, 07:14 AM
E-LE-NA!
God, someone please tell me I'm not the only one who loves Elena! Personality-wise...she's like the Dizzy of SF.

Rick_Son
10-18-2007, 07:21 AM
I would say......

Put Everybody From Street Fighter 1, 2, 3, EX, Alpha all in one

and Add additional New characters as usual

Kind of like what Tekken 5 did

paper tiger
10-18-2007, 07:25 AM
Skullomania.

Xombie
10-18-2007, 08:34 AM
All I really wanna see is match-ups with these characters.

Dan VS Sean
Zangeif VS Hugo or Alex
Balrog VS Dudley

I'm sure the character list is going to be huge anyway, I just pray they don't put Guy or Keisuke in this, keep it classic/3rd Strike characters.

Dingo
10-18-2007, 08:43 AM
I'd like to see more returning characters as long as they made sense as to why they're there. My personal favorites I'd like to see return are Alex, Yang (I guess Yun would be back as well, but I'm a bigger fan of Yang just in terms of his personality), Vega (Claw), Guile, Sakura, and I'd like to see Makoto return.

shinrodimus
10-18-2007, 08:50 AM
i would like to see- feilong, older version of sakura, zangeif or something similer to a grappler character, and ..... well uh i realy dont know what esle i would like to see and in some ways i dont care i am just happy to see that capcom is giving us some love again and it would be nice to see something fresh!!

Dai_
10-18-2007, 09:02 AM
[who the fuck is GILL?]

He's a very tall and buff bi-color guy who fights in a scary (in "train wreck" scary that is) THONG.


I'd like to see the return of the "Red Cyclone" !!! Teh 'Gief is gonna pwn all!!!!! I don't want to see anyone from ths sfex series.

Ramza126
10-18-2007, 09:08 AM
I definitely want Urien to be in it. I would also like Guile(wasn't fond of Remy), Zangief, and Boxer to return. I would eliminate Elena and possibly Twelve, and add new characters

Sano
10-18-2007, 09:16 AM
No Satsui Hadou Ryu AKA Evil Ryu. He got over SNH a loooong time ago, way back in SFZ(A) 3. Storyline-wise it would be the equivalent of Luke Skywalker giving into the Dark Side and going after his kids, or Himura Kenshin of Rurouni Kenshin becoming the Hitokiri Battosai and going after his son. It would just be a pointless rehash. Anyway even in a non storyline sense, putting Gouki in the game takes out the need for SNH Ryu.

I'm rather indifferent about everyone else. Except maybe, no Birdie with those big ass lips he can pull over his head. That's racial as hell... If they want to go back to his SF1 design I'm all for it, but it's prolly better just to leave him alone or redesign him from the ground up.

Ryu and Ken are in it so Chun-Li would make me happy. But it's a given she'll be in it. :smile:

Yeah I don't want to see Sakura or Karin grown up either. Once they grow up they can't wear their high school outfits and pervs can't see Sakura's panties. While this may not be a big deal to you "Youth" is a huge deal in Japan, watch a lot of mecha anime. So yeah don't want that.

Not interested in dead characters coming back to life myself, like Vega(cape) and Nash(Charlie).

But really, I'm rather indifferent about everything except no SNH Ryu and Chun-Li has to be in it. The rest is gravy train. :lovin:

Ramza126
10-18-2007, 09:38 AM
Someone with Aegis Reflector.

:lovin::lovin::lovin:

Wellman
10-18-2007, 09:42 AM
Personally, outside of Ryu and Ken, no more than five characters from SF2 and that is only if the cast is over 15.

Yun seems like the only given SF3 character, although I would hope several more of them make a comeback.


E-LE-NA!
God, someone please tell me I'm not the only one who loves Elena! Personality-wise...she's like the Dizzy of SF.

Nope, I love her as well and hope that Capcom adds her, despite the possibilities looking slim.

Aside from obvious fan service, I would love to see her Capeoria style expanded on. The potential as shown by other fighting game characters using that style is huge.

Same thing with Makoto and Urien. To me while Capcom could just replace them with new similar playing characters, it would be a waste because they have only appeared in so few games and their style would add to any cast.

Lyu
10-18-2007, 09:53 AM
No Satsui Hadou Ryu AKA Evil Ryu. He got over SNH a loooong time ago, way back in SFZ(A) 3. Storyline-wise it would be the equivalent of Luke Skywalker giving into the Dark Side and going after his kids, or Himura Kenshin of Rurouni Kenshin becoming the Hitokiri Battosai and going after his son. It would just be a pointless rehash. Anyway even in a non storyline sense, putting Gouki in the game takes out the need for SNH Ryu.

I'm rather indifferent about everyone else. Except maybe, no Birdie with those big ass lips he can pull over his head. That's racial as hell... If they want to go back to his SF1 design I'm all for it, but it's prolly better just to leave him alone or redesign him from the ground up.

Ryu and Ken are in it so Chun-Li would make me happy. But it's a given she'll be in it.

Yeah I don't want to see Sakura or Karin grown up either. Once they grow up they can't wear their high school outfits and pervs can't see Sakura's panties. While this may not be a big deal to you "Youth" is a huge deal in Japan, watch a lot of mecha anime. So yeah don't want that.

Not interested in dead characters coming back to life myself, like Vega(cape) and Nash(Charlie).

But really, I'm rather indifferent about everything except no SNH Ryu and Chun-Li has to be in it. The rest is gravy train.

Even though Ryu is done with the SNH in the canon I could totaly see them putting him in only because of how easy it is to do. Though I could easily aurgue that giving Ryu a Evil Ryu palatte swap would be much easier. Kind of like the "Evil Ken" unlockable palatte in MvC2.

I would like there to be as little clone characters or replacement characters as possible myself. The more unique everyone is and less like another character the better.

It defenitly would be odd to see any of the SF characters redesigned though as none of them really have before, or it's not as if we've seen a SF character change the way Terry Bogard did in Garou, or Jin did in Tekken 4, excpet for maybe Chun-Li in her SFA outfit, but I don't remember that going over well with fans.

Even if the game is in 3D the older Sakura could have an alternate costume of her Alpha look, but the problem there is that an older Sakura wouldn't act the way SFA Sakura did, so you'd not only be loosing her trademark design aspects with a redesign, but possibly her personality or spunkieness as well.

The game's timeline and what characters are returning is defenitly going to be complicated or maybe "messy" is the better word.

earwig
10-18-2007, 09:54 AM
if they do it RIGHT ryu & ken should be the ONLY returning chars!
just like sf1-sf2-sf3!

SaDo
10-18-2007, 11:00 AM
no dan, no rose or other corny alpha chars.
akuma is fine tho but on the line.
no urien or oro.

no more corny shoto clones unless maybe they really do a decent job on it.

rusbar
10-18-2007, 11:35 AM
they might as well just make sf4, and then hyper sf4 with all the characters since it seems that everybody wants their favorites to be in it

Ramza126
10-18-2007, 12:35 PM
no urien or oro.

I don't really care for Oro but I really want Urien :lovin::lovin::lovin:

Projectjustice
10-18-2007, 12:39 PM
Guile, SF4 MUST HAVE GUILE!!!

StuartHayden
10-18-2007, 12:53 PM
Making Mbison the main boss again [who the fuck is GILL?]



Since SF4 will be an official sequel, it might be Gil again or a totally new main villain.

That and Bison is dead in the official story line, bro.
Raging Demon to the face.

-SH

Dai_
10-18-2007, 12:58 PM
I don't really care for Oro but I really want Urien :lovin::lovin::lovin:

Is the thong rigth?

ni-ten
10-18-2007, 12:58 PM
>no chun
That wouldnt really be street fighter without her.

00000000
10-18-2007, 01:02 PM
Personally, nix Akuma and try to keep things original (but playable).

I'd like to see a character that plays kinda like Cammy (Ibuki kinda does that).

Gain
10-18-2007, 01:06 PM
to be honest, i would have loved to see a game like what sf3 was originally supposed to be like, where ryu is an old man, and the cast is entirely new, save ryu... and you'd see ken's son and sean taking the shoto positions... but it doesn't looke like it'll be like that soooo....

yes: MAKOTO!, ken's son, sagat, balrog, dhalsim, oro, makoto, r.mika, batsu, sean (who is playable), Q, makoto

ABSOLUTELY NOT: chun... no guile, blanka, ibuki, necro, 12, remy, dudley

maybe: sakura, e. honda, gief, hugo, vega, elena, bison, urien, poison, guy

ThePunisherXBL
10-18-2007, 01:06 PM
No loli characters. Not that I 'hate' lolis, but all the women in Street Fighter games that I can recall were strong, adult women except Sakura and Karin who were still tough and defined. Ingrid just looked ridiculous in SFA3 on PSP.

Feint
10-18-2007, 01:08 PM
no urien or oro.



I kinda want Oro in the game. He has a lot of potential to be great, character wise. Storywise he is one of the most powerful characters in the SF universe. He only used one arm in the SF3 series and he kept a watchful eye on Ryu in the 3s ending. So there is plenty potential there as to what they could do with him.

And i kinda have a feeling Chun Li would be in SF4 because of the movie being released around the same time as SF4. It wouldnt really make sense if she wasnt in SF4 when there is a movie based on her coming out the same year.

I actually kinda had a feeling there would be a Street Fighter 4 once they announced the movie scheduled to be released in 2008 which would also be Street Fighter's 20th anniversary. So ofcourse they would have to do something major. So with a movie, remakes of other street fighter games, and Street Fighter 4 it is definitely something major for their 20th anniverery.

StuartHayden
10-18-2007, 01:08 PM
BATSU,

:rofl:!!!!!

Wrong game, bro.

-SH

xXx$HIN-GIEFxXx
10-18-2007, 01:57 PM
Hugo rocks Gief up and down. All day long.

Hugo is Gief's ball licking bitch. That's why Hugo has a perm.

Hard Edge
10-18-2007, 02:44 PM
to be honest, i would have loved to see a game like what sf3 was originally supposed to be like, where ryu is an old man, and the cast is entirely new, save ryu... and you'd see ken's son and sean taking the shoto positions... but it doesn't looke like it'll be like that soooo....

yes: MAKOTO!, ken's son, sagat, balrog, dhalsim, oro, makoto, r.mika, batsu, sean (who is playable), Q, makoto

ABSOLUTELY NOT: chun... no guile, blanka, ibuki, necro, 12, remy, dudley

maybe: sakura, e. honda, gief, hugo, vega, elena, bison, urien, poison, guy


Wow. This post sucks. No Guile? Batsu? MAYBE Hugo (FUCK YES Hugo)? MAYBE Gief (FUCK YES Gief)? Poison? Wtf? She isn't even playable.


You're a faggot.

Lobelia Mk. IV
10-18-2007, 02:49 PM
I just want to see any woman who's ever been in an SF game come back. I don't care about the dudes, aside from the obvious ones.
Chun-Li, Elena, Cammy, Elena, Sakura, Elena, Karin, Elena, Mika, Elena, Makoto, Elena, Ibuki, Elena, Poison, Elena, Rose....well, they could bring her back as like a ghost or something....Elena, Ingrid, Elena, Juni, Elena, Juli, Elena, Noemblum, and Elena are at the top of my list.

...Oh, and Elena. :lovin:
Is it okay if I call myself SRK's biggest Elena fan, or is that taken?

topknot
10-18-2007, 03:30 PM
I just want to see any woman who's ever been in an SF game come back. I don't care about the dudes, aside from the obvious ones.
Chun-Li, Elena, Cammy, Elena, Sakura, Elena, Karin, Elena, Mika, Elena, Makoto, Elena, Ibuki, Elena, Poison, Elena, Rose....well, they could bring her back as like a ghost or something....Elena, Ingrid, Elena, Juni, Elena, Juli, Elena, Noemblum, and Elena are at the top of my list.

...Oh, and Elena. :lovin:
Is it okay if I call myself SRK's biggest Elena fan, or is that taken?

poison is a guy

00000000
10-18-2007, 03:39 PM
BTW: a Urien-like character would be real good. He turned out to be quite a refreshing new type of play style. Before Urien, charge characters were mostly known for being crazy turtles.

Hyperhal
10-18-2007, 03:58 PM
If they bring Dan back with a refined fighting style that WORKS and he actually becomes upper-tier, I'd love Capcom. You can't deny the pink gi, it's too beast.

But other than that, I only really hope that Gene from God Hand gets put in(although we all know thats not gonna happen :confused:)

Sexy ass Karin/Ingrid/Sakura would be too much beasting in one game.

Whodat
10-18-2007, 06:56 PM
Personally I'm all for new characters. Although I know it wont just be Ryu and Ken plus a whole new cast.

If I had to say say somebody I'd say get the rights to the EX characters and put them in.

MOD
10-18-2007, 07:07 PM
Give me Dhalsim, Gen, or Oro.

I can't play SF without old men.

Crap
10-18-2007, 07:12 PM
To NOT return

Ken
Akuma
Makoto
Elena (no one needs a cocktease anymore)
Sean (I actually started to hate him when CPS3 was emulated)
All of the SFA exclusives

PersonaDark
10-18-2007, 07:27 PM
I'll be happy with an Adult Sakura returning, and some emphasis on those massive latent ki abilities she supposed to have. and Sagat and Akuma to finish those rivalries.

wish list:
More Final Fight charas, like a retooled Maki and Cody, Mike Hagger and that guy from the third that's supposed to be some street fighter's relative.

Rival School cast members as adults, especially Daigo and Akira. I always considered them more the next generation than who we got.

Hyperhal
10-18-2007, 08:49 PM
Man adult Kyosuke would be kinda cool

specs
10-18-2007, 08:58 PM
If "A New Beginning" means a re-envisioning of the SF story (like "Ultimate Street Fighter" or something), then I'd like to see a re-imagined Dan in more Chinese-style garb (like Fei Fong Wong or some shit). It'd also be cool to see Karin.

StuartHayden
10-18-2007, 08:59 PM
If "A New Beginning" means a re-envisioning of the SF story (like "Ultimate Street Fighter" or something), then I'd like to see a re-imagined Dan in more Chinese-style garb (like Fei Fong Wong or some shit). It'd also be cool to see Karin.

Or it's just a catchy title.

-SH

specs
10-18-2007, 09:23 PM
Or it's just a catchy title.

-SH

Probably. In which case... Dan and Karin. :bgrin:

DevilJin 01
10-18-2007, 09:24 PM
Needs more black people. Reverend Al Sharpton.

Baron Samedi
10-18-2007, 09:47 PM
i don't want a bunch of school girls or manga stereotypes

i want some people who look like ..i dunno... STREET FIGHTERS!

make a serious game.

goodm0urning
10-18-2007, 10:27 PM
if they do it RIGHT ryu & ken should be the ONLY returning chars!
just like sf1-sf2-sf3!Sagat returned in SF2 from SF1.

Here's my idea, and I demand royalties if they go with it.

Ryu: He returns, BUT he's not a playable character--at least, not in the initial roster. Instead of coming up with an end boss, make Ryu the last boss. This makes so much sense for him. He's spent his entire life striving to become the strongest warrior in the world, and is always searching for a new challenge. This way, he IS the strongest warrior in the world, so the challengers come to HIM.

Ken: This time around, he's the elder statesman of the game. His personalized style of Ansatsuken karate is the gold standard this time around, and maybe he'll even wear something besides his ratty 20 year old gi for once.

As for the rest of the characters, do a Tekken-style cast revamp. They're all new, but some of them are analogous to previous characters who haven't returned. I.e. The girl from Chun Li's SFIII story instead of Chun herself, the introduction of Mel--who, this time around, is sort of in the "Ken" position, being the flashier and wilder alternative to the main character (Ken himself this time), and so on. Make this truly the next generation of Street Fighter, in which the children have grown up to take the place of their parents. Except for Ken, since we know he's not going anywhere.

For purposes of nostalgia, I'm sure they could include a roster of unlockable characters as well. That would be a way of throwing in some more returning characters.

DevilJin 01
10-18-2007, 10:33 PM
Sagat returned in SF2 from SF1.

Here's my idea, and I demand royalties if they go with it.

Ryu: He returns, BUT he's not a playable character--at least, not in the initial roster. Instead of coming up with an end boss, make Ryu the last boss. This makes so much sense for him. He's spent his entire life striving to become the strongest warrior in the world, and is always searching for a new challenge. This way, he IS the strongest warrior in the world, so the challengers come to HIM.

Ken: This time around, he's the elder statesman of the game. His personalized style of Ansatsuken karate is the gold standard this time around, and maybe he'll even wear something besides his ratty 20 year old gi for once.

As for the rest of the characters, do a Tekken-style cast revamp. They're all new, but some of them are analogous to previous characters who haven't returned. I.e. The girl from Chun Li's SFIII story instead of Chun herself, the introduction of Mel--who, this time around, is sort of in the "Ken" position, being the flashier and wilder alternative to the main character (Ken himself this time), and so on. Make this truly the next generation of Street Fighter, in which the children have grown up to take the place of their parents. Except for Ken, since we know he's not going anywhere.

For purposes of nostalgia, I'm sure they could include a roster of unlockable characters as well. That would be a way of throwing in some more returning characters.

YES.

Barsx101
10-18-2007, 10:42 PM
Sagat returned in SF2 from SF1.

Here's my idea, and I demand royalties if they go with it.

Ryu: He returns, BUT he's not a playable character--at least, not in the initial roster. Instead of coming up with an end boss, make Ryu the last boss. This makes so much sense for him. He's spent his entire life striving to become the strongest warrior in the world, and is always searching for a new challenge. This way, he IS the strongest warrior in the world, so the challengers come to HIM.

Ken: This time around, he's the elder statesman of the game. His personalized style of Ansatsuken karate is the gold standard this time around, and maybe he'll even wear something besides his ratty 20 year old gi for once.

As for the rest of the characters, do a Tekken-style cast revamp. They're all new, but some of them are analogous to previous characters who haven't returned. I.e. The girl from Chun Li's SFIII story instead of Chun herself, the introduction of Mel--who, this time around, is sort of in the "Ken" position, being the flashier and wilder alternative to the main character (Ken himself this time), and so on. Make this truly the next generation of Street Fighter, in which the children have grown up to take the place of their parents. Except for Ken, since we know he's not going anywhere.

For purposes of nostalgia, I'm sure they could include a roster of unlockable characters as well. That would be a way of throwing in some more returning characters.

this would actually be pretty sweet, i'd still want some original characters back though(ie: guile instead of charlie)

Radiantsilvergun3
10-18-2007, 10:46 PM
Yes: Alex, Makoto, Dudly, Sean (Give him his true Dragon Smash back please, not his nuetered one from 3s) Makoto, Hugo, Urine and Yun (that should cover the 3s cast.) From SFII bring back Guile, Fei Long, Dhalsim, Honda, Chun, Sagat, and Akuma (that should cover SFII) and of course Ken and Ryu. Oh and Skaura since seeing her older would be cool. I doubt shes lost her spunk. Introduce 3 new characters to the cast. This gives them 21 people to fool around with. With subsiquent updates they can add a few more new guys.

Eh...that might be a bit big for a starting cast. Hard for me to shave short though...I would like all those people. Meh I'm sure Capcom will do it right though.

DevilJin 01
10-18-2007, 10:49 PM
Yes: Alex, Makoto, Dudly, Sean (Give him his true Dragon Smash back please, not his nuetered one from 3s) Makoto, Hugo, Urine and Yun (that should cover the 3s cast.) From SFII bring back Guile, Fei Long, Dhalsim, Honda, Chun, Sagat, and Akuma (that should cover SFII) and of course Ken and Ryu. Oh and Skaura since seeing her older would be cool. I doubt shes lost her spunk. Introduce 3 new characters to the cast. This gives them 21 people to fool around with. With subsiquent updates they can add a few more new guys.

Eh...that might be a bit big for a starting cast. Hard for me to shave short though...I would like all those people. Meh I'm sure Capcom will do it right though.

Send it via email to CAPCOM!!!

Radiantsilvergun3
10-18-2007, 11:09 PM
Eh? Seriously? *Checks sarcasm detector* Damn things busted...

Hellion
10-18-2007, 11:18 PM
Hugo is Gief's ball licking bitch. That's why Hugo has a perm.
:hp::lol::rofl::lol:

SCOTT POPULAR
10-18-2007, 11:45 PM
RYU, KEN, and CHUNLI are the stable. Let's just face the facts..... When the designers go into the meeting they know the deal. Those 3 have the golden ticket!


Now I could only pick 3 from either: SF, SF2, SFA, SF3, SFEX, and Rival School:

SF: Retsu, Gen, Geki
SF2: Guile, Zangief, Sagat
SF3: Urien, Makoto, Oro
SFEX: Cracker Jack, Allen Snider, Doctrine Dark (Cause it's EXPLOSIVE!)
SFA: Rose, Sakura, Guy
RS: Daigo, Kyosuke, Roy

Juddfro
10-18-2007, 11:51 PM
No getting rid of Akuma or making him like his ST version. I really enjoy playing him.

Bring back Twelve, but make him better. He doesn't have to be top tier, but don't make him low tier. I have a large amount of fun playing as that freak.

And bring back everyone from the orignal cast, plus a few 3S characters like Alex.

Insert new characters, and thats my opinion on what should be done character wise for SFIV.

SaBrE
10-18-2007, 11:53 PM
they should throw in the ORIGINAL ROLENTO, AKA, Scrooge McDuck. if you are OG and a capcom fan, you might know what im talking about

teehee

urienMETALdick
10-19-2007, 12:00 AM
Needs more black people. Reverend Al Sharpton.

or OJ simpson as Cody's cellmate.

xXx$HIN-GIEFxXx
10-19-2007, 01:30 AM
WTF is with all the No Akuma?.

All haters, everyone of you. .:rofl:

YuuFone
10-19-2007, 06:57 AM
if sean was stronger then i would like to see him come back!

i wanna see mel masters! :rofl:

Chasem0
10-19-2007, 11:10 AM
Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Chun-Li (not a turtle friendly one), Zangief, Balrog, Guile, Dhalsim, M. Bison, Haggar (YES I SAID HAGGAR) and brand new characters.

The brand new characters should be a burly lumberjack (I know, sounds funny, but I think it would be badass), a Native American Indian chick with some spiritual power / abilities (the new Street Fighter babe) and others I can't think of at the moment.

Dai_
10-19-2007, 11:18 AM
The brand new characters should be a burly lumberjack (I know, sounds funny, but I think it would be badass), a Native American Indian chick with some spiritual power / abilities (the new Street Fighter babe) and others I can't think of at the moment.

http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6E98ZRaU1s
You were watching this video when you wrote that didn't you?

As for the rest of the characters, do a Tekken-style cast revamp. They're all new, but some of them are analogous to previous characters who haven't returned. I.e. The girl from Chun Li's SFIII story instead of Chun herself, the introduction of Mel--who, this time around, is sort of in the "Ken" position, being the flashier and wilder alternative to the main character (Ken himself this time), and so on. Make this truly the next generation of Street Fighter, in which the children have grown up to take the place of their parents. Except for Ken, since we know he's not going anywhere.

Hey, that's a preety good idea, also like in tekken they coul put a bunch of chars. that have nothing to do with the canon of the series.

True Grave
10-19-2007, 11:21 AM
Since SF4 will be an official sequel, it might be Gil again or a totally new main villain.

That and Bison is dead in the official story line, bro.
Raging Demon to the face.

-SH

So what? Shine that shit. Bring back Bison!

Gill is a pussy, Bison is a true bad guy worthy of a return.

Hard Edge
10-19-2007, 11:23 AM
As far as stereotypes are considered, I want a MMA-type fighter. Haggar is a good choice, too.


What about Dean from Final Fight? Maybe re-designed? Could be cool...



Tired of racial stereotypes, so the "spiritual indian" and "burly lumberjack" sound fucking retarded to me.


It'd be cool to have more American characters, though. But not the OMG BASEBALL HOT DOGS view of what Japanese people think Americans are like.


Edit: They already tried to do the "Tekken" thing mentioned above in SF3. Necro, Remy, etc. are fags compared to the original cast.

Shodokan123
10-19-2007, 11:26 AM
Yes: Yun (with geni-jin in tact!)
No: don't care bout the rest.

psychoballz
10-19-2007, 11:57 AM
they should throw in the ORIGINAL ROLENTO, AKA, Scrooge McDuck. if you are OG and a capcom fan, you might know what im talking about

teehee


lol I just got it, you mean ducktales right?

Gasp
10-19-2007, 12:01 PM
-snip-

how can you mention the EX series and NOT request skullomania???


honestly as long as SAK is in im happy.

BunnyHead
10-19-2007, 12:11 PM
....I can do without Makato

one of the lamest characters

but if she's in I wouldnt be mad
I just ignore her

chunbelievable
10-19-2007, 12:33 PM
SF1: Geki, Joe, Eagle, Lee

SFA: Gen, Guy, Cody, Adon, Chun Li, Cammy, Fei Long, Dee Jay, Sakura, Karin, Dhalsim, Geif, Charlie, Birdie, Rolento, Bison (dictator), Balrog (boxer), Vega (claw), Sodom, Akuma

CvS: Maxi

SF2: Ryu, Ken, Guile, Sagat, Honda

SF3: Ibuki, Alex, Yun, Elena, Necro, Urien, Dudley, Makoto, Hugo, Oro

Note, for characters like Ryu, Ken, Chun... listed are the versions of the characters on my wish list. And most of this is dream match inspired so not realistic but hey, how cool would it be? Dhalsim vs Necro, Ibuki vs Geki, Dudley vs Balrog (boxer), Geif vs Hugo.

chunbelievable
10-19-2007, 12:39 PM
I guess if I had to vote for one character out of the core (Ryu, Ken Chun) I would like to request Guile. If I get to suggest more than one character, the list would be:

SF1: Geki, Joe, Eagle, Lee

SFA: Gen, Guy, Adon, Chun Li, Cammy, Fei Long, Dee Jay, Sakura, Karin, Dhalsim, Gief, Charlie, Birdie, Rolento, Bison (dictator), Balrog (boxer), Vega (claw), Sodom, Akuma

CvS: Maxi

SF2: Ryu, Ken, Guile, Sagat, Honda

SF3: Ibuki, Alex, Yun, Elena, Necro, Urien, Dudley, Makoto, Hugo, Oro

Note, for characters like Ryu, Ken, Chun... listed are the versions of the characters on my wish list. And most of this is dream match inspired so not realistic but hey, how cool would it be? Dhalsim vs Necro, Ibuki vs Geki, Dudley vs Balrog (boxer), Gief vs Hugo.

scum gale 88
10-19-2007, 12:47 PM
zangief, his power level must be over 9000 by now!

falcon (from power stone). hells yes.

mecha-balrog

jason david frank

chunbelievable
10-19-2007, 12:50 PM
Whoa, my bad on the double post.:tdown:

goodm0urning
10-19-2007, 01:14 PM
jason david frankI find your idea intriguing and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

mepaphoros
10-19-2007, 01:16 PM
Definitely the full original cast, and I'd add any characters that are unique enough to separate themselves from the original cast (besides 3rd Strike...lol).

Of course, the subtitle "A New Beginning" certainly makes me think most of the old cast will be scrapped. I just thought of something, what if the two characters in the trailer were copycats of Ken and Ryu and not really them?

Lobelia Mk. IV
10-19-2007, 01:25 PM
Of course, the subtitle "A New Beginning" certainly makes me think most of the old cast will be scrapped.

What about....Elena....
No, on a serious, non-fanboyish note, I honestly think that Elena needs to be in more games. She's a really interesting character, playstyle-wise and personality-wise.
Oh, and I'm fully aware that no one likes her theme song besides me.

Hard Edge
10-19-2007, 01:31 PM
What about....Elena....
No, on a serious, non-fanboyish note, I honestly think that Elena needs to be in more games. She's a really interesting character, playstyle-wise and personality-wise.
Oh, and I'm fully aware that no one likes her theme song besides me.


I like it. Only themes in 3S I like better are Urien and Dudley.

Insomniac487
10-19-2007, 01:33 PM
i want akuma and sagat to be in there... Chun li is a MUST just cause she's a strong female character and guile should be in there already. We might have too many shotos (ryu, ken, akuma, dan).. but hey, it wouldn't hurt to include all the old cast + way more :)

pyro_dragun
10-19-2007, 02:46 PM
I want Chun, Cammy, and Guile to return. As long as that happens, I'm happy.

TaiPing
10-19-2007, 03:06 PM
To make this a Street Fighter games, you pretty much need Ryu and Ken, so those are taken. Chun-Li and Gouki always gets added in, so I am guessing they would be in. Oro is training Ryu without him knowing, so Oro should be in be in. Ken is training Sean, so Sean should be in as well.

Hellion
10-19-2007, 03:46 PM
To make this a Street Fighter games, you pretty much need Ryu and Ken, so those are taken. Chun-Li and Gouki always gets added in, so I am guessing they would be in. Oro is training Ryu without him knowing, so Oro should be in the background. Ken was training Sean, but Sean quit.

Fixed:lovin:

Sex Instructor
10-19-2007, 03:57 PM
I don't care as long as they bring my boy bison back

True Grave
10-19-2007, 04:11 PM
Bring back Bison, sakura and Dan!

Yes thats right, i said DAN.

EznorbYar
10-20-2007, 01:36 AM
Twelve of course!

And the return of Vega might be cool too.

Ouroborus
10-20-2007, 01:41 AM
fat chance in hell this is gonna happen but no ryu or ken hogging the spotlight once again. keep either one.

Radical Dreamer
10-20-2007, 02:39 AM
Ditch the entire 3S cast except for Makoto and the twins. Bring back most if not all of the SF2 cast.

R_Mendoza
10-20-2007, 05:40 AM
Let's have a look at the first game of each of the Street Fighters, and how many returning characters there are.

Street Fighter 1
Ryu, Ken, Adon, Lee, Eagle, Sagat, Birdie, Geki, Joe, Gen, Mike, Retsu

Street Fighter 2
Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, Guile, Dhalsim, Blanka, Zangief, E.Honda, Balrog, Vega, Sagat, Bison

Street Fighter 3
Ryu, Ken, Dudley, Alex, Yun, Yang, Ibuki, Necro, Sean, Oro, Elena, Gill

Street Fighter 4
Ryu, Ken, >??????

Now that was with Capcom Japan in charge. If we have another company producing it, and perhaps if there are some of the SRK'ers that are doing game design these days involved in it, we might see way more returning characters than before. But then again the trailer said 'a new beginning' so perhaps they might try to make some of their own new guys.

SesameStreetFighta
10-20-2007, 06:53 AM
Not sure if this has been put forward already, but. Hopefully the Snake in Blanka's stage will be available from the start, so we won't have to 'unlock' him with the - up,down,up,down,left,right,left,right,B,A,start- code, like in Street Fighter 2 on the SNES.
Oh and I really would like Allen from EX, hes one of my faves (honestly), but I think Capcom don't actually own the rights to him or something if I'm not mistaken.

debs
10-20-2007, 07:30 AM
bring back SKINNY bison, balrog...dhalsim and...take out remy and replace him with guile. dan should be in as well with a new move set. sean comes back with a new move set, put in mel masters and a few others as secret characters. i'd like to see sakura but thats a lot of shotos. =/

maybe put in vega. leave twelve and Q OUT. leave remy out. maybe blanka should come back. fuck it i just want to see everybody that was in st and a few that were in 3s in one game. hugo should return...i like hugo over zangief as far as aesthetics but zangief should be in sfIV. i don't really care for akuma but he's gotta return...

but as far as new characters go, i'd like to see:
mel
gouken
and some cool new designs.

Hard Edge
10-20-2007, 07:46 AM
You could always do like Tekken did Jin, as far as Shoto clones.

IE - Sakura grew up and realized idolizing a hobo like Ryu is stupid, and takes up another martial art. Same with Sean or Dan, really.

TaiPing
10-20-2007, 07:56 AM
Vega (Dictator) and Charlie died ... so they will not be back.

R_Mendoza, I agree that Ryu and Ken would be back. They are in the trailer after all. I am more interested to guess which characters would inevitably be back whether in SF4 or upgrade. I am not going to count SF1 on this one since it is a beat-em-up and not a VS fighting game.

3S:
Alex/Chun-Li/Dudley/Elena/Gill/Gouki/Hugo/Ibuki/Ken
Makoto/Necro/Oro/Q/Remy/Ryu/Sean/Twelve/Urien/Yang/Yun

ST:
Blanka/Boxer/Cammy/Chun-Li/Claw/Deejay/Dhalsim/Dictator
Fei-Long/Gouki/Guile/Hawk/Honda/Ken/Ryu/Sagat/Zangief

A3:
Adon/Birdie/Blanka/Boxer/Cammy/Charlie/Chun-Li/Claw
Cody/Dan/Dhalsim/Dictator/Gen/Gouki/Guy/Honda/Juli
Juni/Karin/Ken/Mika/Rolento/Rose/Ryu/Sagat/Sakura
Sodom/Zangief

Ryu and Ken might be on every release but Gouki and Chun always gets added in.

Gutter Trash
10-20-2007, 08:30 AM
they need to keep the clones, pallet swap characters at a strict minimum, minimum

Ryu and Ken should be the ONLY shotos.

The Alpha franchise went overboard with Evil Ryu, Akuma, Shin-Akuma, Dan, Sakura. Then there was Juli and Juni on top of it.

While the rest SF2 cast remained MIA in the SF3s, Sean was created, Akuma returned in SF3

For fans of old SF2 characters that end going MIA, we get tired of clones and pallet swap characters.

If it is to be all new cast, than make em original and no pallet swaps

yungb254
10-20-2007, 08:52 AM
So we all know Ryu and Ken will most likely make it back. Chun Li is pretty much in the same position because of her popularity. Alot of people want to see Guile make a return, If Capcom is listening theres a good chance we could see this happen. Alpha characters were pretty much left in that time period never to be seen again. As for 3 it makes sense that those characters stay there as well. The sf3 cast may not have been as popular as the sf2 cast but some of those characters were just as good. I would at least like to see some of the star characters return: Alex, Ibuki, Oro, maybe Yun/Yang.

I don't think Capcom would want to make the same mistake they did with 3. So theres a big chance that we will see alot of old characters come back, but If Capcom still has the same creative genius to give us an entirely new cast it should be done.

chunbelievable
10-20-2007, 08:59 AM
I am not going to count SF1 on this one since it is a beat-em-up and not a VS fighting game.


uhhhhhhhhh.... it wasn't?

TaiPing
10-20-2007, 09:32 AM
Yeah dude, unless I am remembering it wrong. I think the only character I could use was Ryu. It has been a while though.

chunbelievable
10-20-2007, 09:53 AM
You could join in as player 2 and play as Ken against player 1.

Christ0pher
10-20-2007, 09:59 AM
I want my girl Mak.

red*star
10-20-2007, 01:24 PM
well if it wasnt for the fucking bad cast of sf3 i would say do it garou way. it is a damn fine example of a "new beginning"
only ryu and whole new cast...since i dont believe in good character design anymore (capcom side that is) i would say:
ryu and sagat settle the score
not ken but a younger pupil / his daughter
Shin Akuma as boss
Guile
Zangief
mix of Boxer/dud
Shin Ryu as secret char

now make ten new ones that no one will play anyways and we are set

another option is give ryu a complete new fighting style like capcom did for jin in tekken 4

Enishi
10-20-2007, 01:46 PM
I hope sean makes a return.

patmonsta
10-20-2007, 01:49 PM
definately yun 4 sure i think having the 6 grooves would be amazing or custom combos

kid_krush
10-20-2007, 01:50 PM
all that matters is that is that sf4 is a blend of the greats before it like SF:ST, SF:A2, SF:3S
and add guile,alex,ken,cody(cody escapes jail in this one make him look cool. keep criminal upper but redo other moves and spite/SF:A3 IS BROKE AS FUCK )and bring back charlie why is he the only charecter that died. we need charlie(and yes he is different then guile/charlie has better special moves and more combo based his clothes look better and guile has better pokes,better range can turtle better and better hair) and other cast of characters Alex, Yun, Yang, Ibuki, Necro, Sean, Oro, Elena, Gill, Urien, Dudely, Dhalsim, Blanka, Zangief, E.Honda, Balrog, Vega, Sagat, Bison,Birdie, Adon, Makoto, Chun-li, Hugo, Rose, Sakura, Cammy, R.Mika, Rolento and ETC....

Hoonyo
10-20-2007, 02:11 PM
no blanka plz

hate that hairy green fucker

goodm0urning
10-20-2007, 02:35 PM
all that matters is that is that sf4 is a blend of the greats before it like SF:ST, SF:A2, SF:3S
and add guile,alex,ken,cody(cody escapes jail in this one make him look cool. keep criminal upper but redo other moves and spite/SF:A3 IS BROKE AS FUCK )and bring back charlie why is he the only charecter that died. we need charlie(and yes he is different then guile/charlie has better special moves and more combo based his clothes look better and guile has better pokes,better range can turtle better and better hair) and other cast of characters Alex, Yun, Yang, Ibuki, Necro, Sean, Oro, Elena, Gill, Urien, Dudely, Dhalsim, Blanka, Zangief, E.Honda, Balrog, Vega, Sagat, Bison,Birdie, Adon, Makoto, Chun-li, Hugo, Rose, Sakura, Cammy, R.Mika, Rolento and ETC....

definately yun 4 sure i think having the 6 grooves would be amazing or custom combos

Am I the only one who wants a NEW game?

Silks
10-20-2007, 03:12 PM
the other characters thread is a lot bigger than this one. we should probably just stick to one

2agingMonk
10-20-2007, 03:24 PM
Guile was pretty badass.. and I don't think they'll be able to create a character to replace him properly (3rd Strike didn't manage to do that.. Remy paled in comparison). But I guess it wouldn't make much sense story-wise for him to be in this. The closure of SF2 tells me that he's done fighting, period.

And I wouldn't agree with the sons of players idea being lame. I love it when its done tastefully. Rock Howard was an awesome idea, Yun and Yang, etc. At least have descendents/disciples of past players. I hope Sean really comes into his own.

Mel would be pretty lame, though.

kmasera
10-20-2007, 03:26 PM
Mel would be pretty lame, though.

mel would only be lame because no one can be as dreamy as ken <3

shatterstar
10-20-2007, 03:36 PM
Am I the only one who wants a NEW game?
i know what you ment but seriously hasnt ryu and ken always been in every single street fighter game, right? so why not bring back a cast that everyone is familiar with?

but you want a new game, huh?

play basara x cross.

True Grave
10-20-2007, 03:40 PM
bring back SKINNY bison

Hell no. Alpha bison was the coolest! He needs to return in updated style.

kmasera
10-20-2007, 03:43 PM
Hell no. Alpha bison was the coolest! He needs to return in updated style.

you mean widescreen bison bahhhhhhh

;D

imprezaru
10-20-2007, 04:00 PM
i would like to see ken, ryu, chun li, guile, sagat, makoto, sakura and Q return.

most of the characte design in sf3 was really terrible, i'd just want them to correct that with sf4. that means no more naked characters, and no more shotos to fill the roster. i really hope they don't bring back sean or dan, those guys are a joke.

2agingMonk
10-20-2007, 04:02 PM
Guys I'd like to see making a return, in order of neccessity:

Sagat IMO, he NEEDS to be in a sequel, but more badass/different play-wise/maybe with more different muay thai stuff. I really feel he still has a place in these new generation-type games, and its only fitting that his story hasn't been completed yet.

Yun/Yang Neccessary, IMO. They were great in 3rd strike and recreating new personas every game to fill the same role seems unneccessary to me. Sure, we don't want to rehash everything but some continuity can be a good thing. Gen was such an awesome character (he's dead, so out of the question) that it'd be a real shame to not have someone representing his style, and introducing someone new who does that would be downright stupid.

Alex Probably their latest well-designed player. It'd be a waste to create him and then immediately drop him, especially considering he's supposed to be a main character in the early stages of his fighting... career.. thing.

Hugo The days of Zangief/Dhalsim are and should be over, IMO. Hugo was perfect in SF3. I just loved how they managed to take a classic character and turned him into a unique, memorable character without taking away from his roots and also managing to use him to fill the huge seemingly unfillable role that Zangief played all those years and THEN some. IMO, it was brilliant what they did here.

Oro Not entirely sure if he fits the story, I think he does, but like Alex, I loved the way he was designed (both play-wise and story-wise). It'd be a complete waste to not use him again. If I'm not mistaken he's supposed to play a major role in Ryu's story arc as well [in his 3rd strike ending, he trains him]. Furthermore, the potential new moves this guy has w/ variations of how many hands he uses is limitless and a pretty cool idea, IMO.

Gouki Again, only as a hidden/boss-type character, and w/ changed play-style that's more wild/sadistic. To me its just proper tradition, and a good one, at that. Personally, I hope he plays MUCH less like a Shoto though and more like a deranged power-driven lunatic.

Chun-Li She as much defines Street Fighter as Ryu/Ken, and IMO doesn't take away from the originality of the game like either of those two might. Its not like they'll be able to come up with a new character that can replace her anyways. She was great in 3rd Strike, and somehow still manages to be seemingly a pretty original character even now. Not sure how to explain it, but the way she played in 3rd strike didn't seem at all 'same-old-same-old' to me.

Retsu if he's still alive. I've just always wanted to see more of him. Maybe unrealistic.

Guile The thing about Guile is.. even though he's TOTALLY badass and probably one of the best things about SF2, canonically he may not be the best idea for SF4. His character/story seemed to have pretty good closure in SF2, and I got the feeling by the end of that game that he wasn't ever going to fight again or make any more appearances. The biggest problem with that IMO, is that every SF game since has been lacking a Guile-like presence, and every attempt at filling his void has failed HORRIBLY (especially Remy... good god. Nash was good but it'd be REALLY REALLY stupid to bring HIM back). I dunno about this one. Part of me thinks he's a neccessity to bring back, and another part tells me it would ruin the game somewhat.

Other than those characters, it might be best to fill out the rest of the roster with fresh new characters. IMO, characters like Sakura/Guy/Zangief/Dan... there time is pretty much over. And it would feel wrong to bring them back again. As much as I like them, I think it would ruin the game and make it feel like another capcom rehash. Sean might be good as well, but I'd much rather he be less of a shoto and more of a rambunctious/impulsive, cheap, no rules, ACTUAL realistic 'street fighter' type. I liked the direction he was going with his tackle moves, but not so much his other moves.

I also really like the design/style of characters like Cammy/Balrog [the masked one]/Necro/Q/Feilong, but I suppose they could easily be replaced by familiar-type characters... and bringing them all back would keep it from being a truly new game again, I think. If it were up to me I might bring back Necro/Q simply because I don't think they'd be too easy to recreate without it looking contrived.

Silks
10-20-2007, 04:12 PM
2agingmonk: What was so bad about Remy? The anti-Guile personality? He was basically Guile's moves combined with Sagat's high/low projectile, with a new move addition/replacement for keeping pressure (cbk). Remy didn't fail. The parry system failed Remy. You throw Guile, exactly how he was in sf2 games, into the 3s system that involves the safe parry, and Guile would be lower tier than even Remy is.

goodm0urning
10-20-2007, 04:30 PM
I always thought of Alex as Guile's SF3 replacement, not Remy. Remy has some of Guile's moves, but Alex has the Guile style--just more grap-oriented.

Crap
10-20-2007, 04:33 PM
perhaps if there are some of the SRK'ers that are doing game design these days involved in it, we might see way more returning characters than before

And the most egocentric, complex to fucking hell universal systems, and arcade exclusive shit fest of all time.

Silks
10-20-2007, 04:43 PM
I always thought of Alex as Guile's SF3 replacement, not Remy. Remy has some of Guile's moves, but Alex has the Guile style--just more grap-oriented.

Yeah, he is very similar character-wise. That's why I really want to see Alex and Remy in 4. There could be some cool plots built between them cuz of the similarities to Guile and Charlie

2agingMonk
10-20-2007, 04:59 PM
Remy was just boring. When I'm talking about someone to fill Guile's void I don't neccessarily mean someone who plays exactly like Guile. To me Remy's moves just didn't look impressive/unique at all. Design-wise he was also pretty uninspiring. He looks like Freeman in Garou but 1/4 as cool. I always thought that the best thing about Guile was the design, and his grapple moves/suplexes/backbreakers/knuckles/weird upside-down floating kick thing. I'm not sure, maybe its just because of how effective he was, but in SF2 Guile had a major presence about him and neither Remy nor Alex had any of that. Alex does look/play pretty cool though.

goodm0urning
10-20-2007, 05:03 PM
Remy was just boring. When I'm talking about someone to fill Guile's void I don't neccessarily mean someone who plays exactly like Guile. To me Remy's moves just didn't look impressive/unique at all. Design-wise he was also pretty uninspiring. He looks like Freeman in Garou but 1/4 as cool. I always thought that the best thing about Guile was the design, and his grapple moves/suplexes/backbreakers/knuckles/weird upside-down floating kick thing. I'm not sure, maybe its just because of how effective he was, but in SF2 Guile had a major presence about him and neither Remy nor Alex had any of that. Alex does look/play pretty cool though.Alex might not have the floating upside-down kick, but he does have the "This is Sparta!" kick, which is almost as cool.

Kyokugen
10-20-2007, 05:22 PM
Alex is actually pretty cool. It's cool that he's an American character that doesn't manage to be 1/4 Japanese (classic shit Cap does with their US chars...), doesn't speak Japanese, and he's an homage to Hulk Hogan. What's not to like?

I also really like how full his movelist feels. Previously in SF it seems like if you want to distinguish a char as a grappler, you really need to give him JUST grapples (not denying the strength of Gief's lariat or banishing flat). He feels more like an SNK char, imo. No disrespect intended to either franchise.

I didn't really like the twins, but I didn't really like Gen, either. I don't like Chinese Martial Arts in general, though. Personal preference.

Saiyajin11
10-20-2007, 08:02 PM
NO DAN!


You MUST jest?

We HAVE to have Dan back! :wgrin:

Saiyajin11
10-20-2007, 08:08 PM
All I really wanna see is match-ups with these characters:

Dan VS Sean


I am with you on this one.......................

Sasmasta
10-20-2007, 08:13 PM
Bring Makoto back...

That is all.

Radiantsilvergun3
10-20-2007, 08:22 PM
i would like to see ken, ryu, chun li, guile, sagat, makoto, sakura and Q return.

most of the characte design in sf3 was really terrible, i'd just want them to correct that with sf4. that means no more naked characters, and no more shotos to fill the roster. i really hope they don't bring back sean or dan, those guys are a joke.No one ever seems to remember that Sean was the fucking shit in Second Impact.

Kyokugen
10-20-2007, 08:24 PM
Yeah, it's funny how everyone thinks Sean is a joke because he was low tier in 3s. Naaw, man.

People who only play CvS2 think Kyosuke is garbage though even though he rocked the MF house in Project Justice.

Hellion
10-20-2007, 08:45 PM
People who only play CvS2 think Kyosuke is garbage though even though he rocked the MF house in Project Justice.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7402/kyosukequestionbw0.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kyosukequestionbw0.jpg)
Nah. Kyosuke's cool.

Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose
10-20-2007, 09:05 PM
IT really would depend on the storyline ofthe game. I mean, I love Rose, but I know she wont ever be coming back, because it wouldnt make any sense. Some chars I just can't see returning. Chun, for example. Great character, but her storyline was finished back in SF2. She seemd out of place in 3s to begin with. Ken and Ryu ARE Street Fighter, so they stay. Guile, while original, also wrapped up his storyline with the death of Bison. Sagat I can see returning. Not a fan, but he is also a pure fighter. Im neutral with respect to everyone else. I would LOVE to see Cammy return. Hell, make her the next leading lady. A grown sakura and Karin would be a great spiritual succesor to the Ken/Ryu rivalry. The younger character would be great additions, since most players are used to them in some form or another. I understand some people would like a lot of the original cast to return, but we gotta face the facts: a lot of the previous generation of SF players have retired. A great amount of the current players (the new gen if you will), have grown up around the 3S/Alpha cast and omitting a lot of those would alienate some. I played the origianl SF2 games, but I got more interested in the Alpha games, so I am more of a fan of that cast.

My $0.02

$hAoLIn
10-20-2007, 09:08 PM
See: D.Dark, Allen, Skullo

DanielLarusso
10-20-2007, 10:00 PM
awww hell no!

guile should ONLY have those 2 moves... that's what makes him special... every other character could have spent the past 10 years of their life, re-inventing themselves and their art.... but guile will still be using the 2 damn same moves...

if they really want to change guile... they should give him 100 normals, 10 supers, but still only 2 specials... cuz that's what makes him guile...

This is precisely why I DON'T want Guile. Unless they change they way he plays completely, he will just feel entirely too 1992-ish, as he always has. That's the trap you don't wanna fall into, I want a fresh experience.

Then again, if they DO change the way he plays, he wouldn't exactly be Guile now would he? So I say its best to just leave him out. Guile isn't the only Flag-toting, hair gel abusing, combat boot wearing dude out there. He could be replaced with a character of similar personality and America will still survive without him, trust me.

Hellion
10-20-2007, 10:58 PM
... and America will still survive without him, trust me.

:sad:

goodm0urning
10-20-2007, 11:45 PM
Then again, if they DO change the way he plays, he wouldn't exactly be Guile now would he? So I say its best to just leave him out. Guile isn't the only Flag-toting, hair gel abusing, combat boot wearing dude out there. He could be replaced with a character of similar personality and America will still survive without him, trust me.So what you're saying is...

"Tru-peers! Wev jes received nyoo ordars. Ar superiors say de war has been cancelled. Guile can go home."

EDIT:

For serious. An America that can survive without this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr6xjbGc2XY) is an America that I don't even know anymore.

Silks
10-21-2007, 12:09 AM
So what you're saying is...

"Tru-peers! Wev jes received nyoo ordars. Ar superiors say de war has been cancelled. Guile can go home."

EDIT:

For serious. An America that can survive without this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr6xjbGc2XY) is an America that I don't even know anymore.

LOL, the best motivational speaker ever. at 40 seconds, "you're joking." Too fucking good. "you've lost your balls"

aykay
10-21-2007, 01:50 AM
mel masters. hell yes.

Cody will never be in another sf, so I have no hope for that. my boy Q from third strike is also probably a serious gamble. hahaha. I'm so out of luck.

Dark Hadou XS
10-21-2007, 01:54 AM
I hope they either leave Yun's ass out all together or take away his damn Gene-jin crap or whatever the hell it's called. I actually don't mind if they bring everyone back as long as it doesn't turn into a 2 character whore fest like 3S with all the ChunYuns flooding the brackets.

Ouroborus
10-21-2007, 06:52 AM
bring fei long back

ryuzero12
10-21-2007, 07:46 AM
I hope to see Sakura and Karin one more time in this game. Dan should return just for the hell of it. I want to see Bison and Gill creating some kind of empire together or something.Apparently, I want everybody back from the past SF games.BUt that's my opinion.

Hellion
10-21-2007, 08:25 AM
Apparently, I want everybody back from the past SF games.BUt that's my opinion.

You want to turn SF4 into a dream match?

coreografo
10-21-2007, 09:12 AM
new chars (3s) and sagat, zangief ,claw ...i love this "spittin' narcissism"

ryuzero12
10-21-2007, 09:24 AM
You want to turn SF4 into a dream match?

Somethin like that.

Zazzarius
10-21-2007, 10:19 AM
i agree with if guile returns, the man needs new moves.

new moves for everyone! :wgrin:

Rojo
10-21-2007, 10:31 AM
Ryu,Ken,Yang,Yun,Makoto,Sean are the only ones that should return. Have the rest of the cast be new. Truth be told, there is a pattern...


From SF1 to SF2 how many characters returned? 3;Ryu,Ken, and Sagat.
From SF2 to SF3, same question, 3. (akuma hidden/ST)

3 seems to be the number of returns.

Shin_Akuma_
10-21-2007, 12:01 PM
I really think they should bring back any and everyone that was playable in the Street Fighter series. Just keep the main characters that follow the story line to STIV playable and the rest unlockable in versus. What I really want is new costumes for the old characters (i.e.: Ken in a 2 piece suit). Something that would also be neat is if they incorporated some kind of damage infliction to their costumes. Now that would be bad-ass!!! :rock:

PsychoSquall
10-21-2007, 01:12 PM
I'm surprised by how many of you hold the sf storyline in such high regards as to the reasoning for who should return or not. To me, the story is not that important in a fighting game. Chun Li didn't have a reason to keep fighting after Bison died. People want Guile back, so they could easily make up a plot to have him return.

Dai_
10-21-2007, 01:19 PM
For serious. An America that can survive without this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr6xjbGc2XY) is an America that I don't even know anymore.

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Srsly, we need a Mexican fighter.

Crap
10-21-2007, 01:25 PM
Ryu,Ken,Yang,Yun,Makoto,Sean are the only ones that should return. Have the rest of the cast be new. Truth be told, there is a pattern...


From SF1 to SF2 how many characters returned? 3;Ryu,Ken, and Sagat.
From SF2 to SF3, same question, 3.

3 seems to be the number of returns.

4 you moron.

Ryu ken chun and akuma

Pyreen
10-21-2007, 05:09 PM
What the fuck is all this talk about Capcom cant bring back a or resurrect b cause of the storyline?
Before A2 Capcom just said fuck this, A1 didnt happen, A2 is now canon.
They can do whatever they want cause they're Capcom.

Anyway, we need:

1. ROSE, A2 style; cr. strong bitches!
2. ADON: I still play him in A3. Only this time Capcom should make him not suck.
3. ALLEN: The sideburn guy from EX1. He had a really unique style with interesting specials. And big ass sideburns.

Rojo
10-21-2007, 05:52 PM
4 you moron.

Ryu ken chun and akuma

I am talking default. Anyways, the number is obviously very low for returning characters. You already have Ryu, and ken, so add 1, possibly 2 more.

Silks
10-21-2007, 05:57 PM
It just popped into my head what characters should be in the game. Someone should sit down a list all the stereotypes that Capcom hasn't covered yet, and those are the new characters :D

Hellion
10-21-2007, 06:39 PM
It just popped into my head what characters should be in the game. Someone should sit down a list all the stereotypes that Capcom hasn't covered yet, and those are the new characters :D

They should put some restrictions on this shit though.
The very name "Street Fighter" implies battle-hardened warriors, not stupid emo looking freaks or japanese school girl uniform-dressed contenders against the worlds best.

Junker4life
10-21-2007, 06:43 PM
when they made 3rd strike, they added new characters with the exception of a few. i have a feeling there gonna add new characters. they may keep some old ones or some that made a huge impact for example Yun and Yang.

i think there gonna keep Ryu but make him older, cause Oro did train him.
Sean is mostly coming back.
i think ken's son, Mel, will be in it.
Also, the orphan, i forget her name, Chun-li searches for in 3s will be in it

Sasmasta
10-21-2007, 06:46 PM
The orphan huh?

That's a new one.

Capcom Master
10-21-2007, 06:49 PM
Street Fighter IV should be a balanced fighting game.

When you introduce more game play elements and more characters, It comes exponentially harder to balance the game.

I would expect a cast of about 20-30

Silks
10-21-2007, 08:44 PM
They should put some restrictions on this shit though.
The very name "Street Fighter" implies battle-hardened warriors, not stupid emo looking freaks or japanese school girl uniform-dressed contenders against the worlds best.

Oh come on man, I wasn't really serious. Just making the funny comment about previous sf games and their use of stereotypes haha. Shit, lots of video games for that matter. They make me giggle

Keits
10-21-2007, 09:02 PM
The only characters I want returning, mostly for familiarity sake and story sake are...

Oro-Ryu
Sean
Alex
Gouki
and Ken should be replaced by his son, Mel.

Radiantsilvergun3
10-21-2007, 09:10 PM
Ken should never be replaced.

Keits
10-21-2007, 09:18 PM
Mel would be Ken, just younger. The age he was in Alpha, probably.

Mert
10-21-2007, 09:21 PM
Keen and Ree. Those should be the only two characters. And the kid from Karate Kid that yells "GET HIM A BODY BAG AHHHGAHHAHAH" as one of the background characters in a stage. That was awesome.

altergenesis
10-21-2007, 09:23 PM
japanese school girl uniform-dressed contenders against the worlds best.

...aka Sakura, Karin, Ingrid and Ibuki. No matter how often people say it, I find it hilarious how people get angry about the Japanese trends in games when said games come from Japan.

ObsidianZ
10-21-2007, 09:38 PM
Street Fighter IV should be a balanced fighting game.

When you introduce more game play elements and more characters, It comes exponentially harder to balance the game.

I would expect a cast of about 20-30

I don't think there will be more than 20. None of these massive rosters where half the chacters are useless.

*ObZ

Ouroborus
10-23-2007, 03:36 AM
they should put the sf offsprings

guiles daughter
kens son
dhalsims son
that adopted girl chun li took in from 3s
one of honda's students

Daemos
10-23-2007, 05:14 AM
Vega, Bison, Sagat, Chun Li, Urien, Alex, Ryu, Ken, Older Cammy and/or older Juni/Juli. Perhaps even Guile but I prefer Remy =P (no really)

Haggar would be awesome.

coco_j
10-23-2007, 05:28 AM
I am talking default. Anyways, the number is obviously very low for returning characters. You already have Ryu, and ken, so add 1, possibly 2 more.

Oh and this trend couldn't possibly change for SF4. :rolleyes:

Daemos
10-23-2007, 05:35 AM
It has to change, it was one SF3's main cons and Capcom knows that hence why they added Akuma and Chun Li.

I think the game needs an even, tight and balanced cast of 16-20 characters, 40-50% returning and the remaining all new. Also like I said in the other thread, the old characters need to feel fresh, not just appearance wise, but gameplay wise as well.

Alucard20
10-23-2007, 11:27 AM
I don't really care for Oro but I really want Urien :lovin::lovin::lovin:

ditto

ElderGOD
10-23-2007, 11:38 AM
I want to see Ryu, Ken, Akuma (non-playable secret boss), Makoto, Chun Li, Guile, Sakura (Rival Schools move set), Bison (jp Vega), Vega (jp Balrog), Dudley, Dhalsim, Urien, and Hugo.

I don't want to see Twelve, Necro, Hagger, Cammy, Remy, Sean, Dan, Karin.

That's all I can think of for now.

Shin Sho-oh-ken
10-23-2007, 11:43 AM
Mel would be Ken, just younger. The age he was in Alpha, probably.

Umm... That is assuming SF4 takes place like 10 years after SF3 or so.

How old is Mel anyway? We don't want no 12 year old in a SF game. He has to be at least 16.

pootnannies
10-23-2007, 01:22 PM
oro and ryu is a must. ken can go, he's got a family and he's old and shit. ryu is old but if he's being trained by oro than he can become a sennin and live past his 150's. sean should replace ken for now since he's his student. akuma should finally die in this game so he's gotta be in there. chun li can definately go but be replaced by one of her orphans. urien maybe. i'd like makoto, remy, elena, and dudley to return as well but i don't see any need for them story wise. i don't really care if the other old sf2 characters return. i'd like to see some new ones.

crazydiamond
10-23-2007, 05:02 PM
oro and ryu is a must. ken can go, he's got a family and he's old and shit. ryu is old but if he's being trained by oro than he can become a sennin and live past his 150's. sean should replace ken for now since he's his student. akuma should finally die in this game so he's gotta be in there. chun li can definately go but be replaced by one of her orphans. urien maybe. i'd like makoto, remy, elena, and dudley to return as well but i don't see any need for them story wise. i don't really care if the other old sf2 characters return. i'd like to see some new ones.

But Ken's in the trailer.

Shin Sho-oh-ken
10-23-2007, 05:06 PM
urien maybe. i'd like makoto, remy, elena, and dudley to return as well but i don't see any need for them story wise. i don't really care if the other old sf2 characters return. i'd like to see some new ones.

Those characters can all go too. They aren't as cool as the classics, so either the classics come back or they make new ones.

Sephiroth_KMFDM
10-23-2007, 05:14 PM
Oro needs some buffs
I hope they over haul him for SF4

Mechanica
10-23-2007, 05:18 PM
I want Fei Long.

ultimate faust
10-23-2007, 05:26 PM
i want to see mainly the new age characters... honda sagat chunli guile... all way to fucking simple.. dont you DARE put them into the game.... or else its gonna be stupid as shit...

pootnannies
10-23-2007, 06:18 PM
But Ken's in the trailer.

yeah i can see that, but this thread is about who we'd like to see and who we would not like to see in sf4

Sano
10-23-2007, 08:47 PM
Best bet at telling Capcom who you want in this game is to register at the Capcom boards if you haven't already, vote in this poll and pick whoever you want, make as many choices as you want.

http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showthread.php?t=21305

Cyric
10-24-2007, 12:59 AM
If Sean took Kens spot, that'd be cool but Ken is way to popular of a char to be left off the roster.
I hope none of the 3S freaks are included (Makoto, Remy, Twelve, Necro, Urien etc). Alex, Yun and Dudley are all good though.
I do think Capcom need a new hot chick in the line up though. I propse introducing Cammys younger (18 Year old) sister. She looks just like Cammy but has shoulder length blonde hair, bigger boobs and shows more cleavage. Victoria is a nice English name, so thats what we'll call her.

Big Picture
10-24-2007, 03:55 AM
Bring back that Dee Jay nigguh.

Xorcist
10-24-2007, 08:44 AM
Call me crazy, but I really want Street Fighter to go back to it's roots (i.e. Street Fighting). Which means characters like Gill, Necro, Q, and Twelve all get the boot. If I wanted to play a super-natural, bio-engineered, or robotic character I'd go play Dark Stalkers. I'd prefer it if SF4 kept it about the fighting arts (i.e no gimmicy characters).

I can stomach Dhalism despite his un-natural abilities. And Oro is okay outside of this telekenetic boulder chucking super. The same goes for Blanka, aside from the electricity thing he's fairly normal. All in all I'd just like to see more attention placed on fighting styles, and a variety of them (let's drop the miriad of shoto-variants).

alchemist78
10-24-2007, 08:59 AM
It depends of the number of characters in the game really, the more the merrier IMO

shoni
10-24-2007, 09:09 AM
all the characters are ok and are dealable but as long as i never see gill again.

Shodokan123
10-24-2007, 09:15 AM
Call me crazy, but I really want Street Fighter to go back to it's roots (i.e. Street Fighting). Which means characters like Gill, Necro, Q, and Twelve all get the boot. If I wanted to play a super-natural, bio-engineered, or robotic character I'd go play Dark Stalkers. I'd prefer it if SF4 kept it about the fighting arts (i.e no gimmicy characters).

I can stomach Dhalism despite his un-natural abilities. And Oro is okay outside of this telekenetic boulder chucking super. The same goes for Blanka, aside from the electricity thing he's fairly normal. All in all I'd just like to see more attention placed on fighting styles, and a variety of them (let's drop the miriad of shoto-variants).

the main characters throw freaking fire balls....

randomsuper
10-24-2007, 09:33 AM
all the og cast for sure. it just wouldn't be the same without them. throw in some necro, makoto, yang, adon, birdie, fie long, and t hawk, and i'll be the happiest guy alive since i always thought those characters were cool as hell. though to be honest, i wouldn't mind if most of the cast consisted of new characters. new blood is needed at this point.

gkrohwon
10-24-2007, 09:58 AM
Ryu - Obvious
Ken - Obvious
Sakura - Can replace chun li and be the new main female character, grown up and a stronger figher

Akuma
Dhalsim
Oro - These three because akuma has rivaliries with oro and ryu, and dhalsim because you can make up a story behind oro and dhalsim for why dhalsim is back.

Haggar - maybe to fight a villian that will be a new character or to compete with alex.
Alex - cause he was the main character in SF3
Sagat - since shadowloo is over, hes an aging lone wolf in his 40's, wants to fight ryu once more.
Q - unresolved maybe important storyline
Guy - because haggar is in the game and there needs to be a yun or fei long character

Plus 10-15 new characters


No characters like E honda because they have no storyline unlike chun and guile

No characters like chun and guile because their storylines are over.

X-Static
10-24-2007, 09:04 PM
Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Sagat, Alex, Urien and maybe Sakura. They make sense story wise.

ElderGOD
10-24-2007, 09:36 PM
I want to see Ryu, Ken, Akuma (non-playable secret boss), Makoto, Chun Li, Guile, Sakura (Rival Schools move set), Bison (jp Vega), Vega (jp Balrog), Dudley, Dhalsim, Urien, and Hugo.

I don't want to see Twelve, Necro, Hagger, Cammy, Remy, Sean, Dan, Karin.

That's all I can think of for now.


Also kind of tired of Elena and Q. Also don't care much for Oro outside of story line.

Get rid of yun and keep yang.

Also add Fei Long.

Esjihn
10-25-2007, 10:54 AM
no guile? get the fuck out of my america

LMAO!!

SuicidalGrandpa
10-25-2007, 11:01 AM
I'm pretty sure that, combining the OG cast with some of the newer ones is a good idea. I mean, some of the 3S characters (Necro, Twelve, Elena, Remy) can be dropped on their asses and switched out for other characters..I think the other base of playables in 3S was pretty good.

Also, bring Sagat and Dee Jay back :tup:

gridman
10-25-2007, 12:30 PM
Want hawk, fei, necro, and whoever else they wanna throw in.

Sevenskirt
10-25-2007, 03:40 PM
I really think they should bring back any and everyone that was playable in the Street Fighter series. Just keep the main characters that follow the story line to STIV playable and the rest unlockable in versus. What I really want is new costumes for the old characters (i.e.: Ken in a 2 piece suit). Something that would also be neat is if they incorporated some kind of damage infliction to their costumes. Now that would be bad-ass!!! :rock:

That's a very interesting thought... I don't care about the story either, hell, it's Street Fighter and not Hamlet and his stupid nutshells!!


The story-line in Street Fighter is anything but good:

-Who is the actual winner of the SF2/SF3 tournament?

-Why does over half of the cast not have a last name?

-Chun-Li and Guile get their revenge but only Chun-Li appears in SF3!?

-Why does the UdSSR STILL exist?

-Who is Remy's father if not Guile?

AND WHY THE HELL DOES CHARLIE HAVE TO DIE FOR OVER MORE THAN 500 TIMES!!!??
JUST BECAUSE OF A PROPER STORY!!!??


I agree that they should add every character that has ever made an appearance in the series (including EX series) as a secret character even if he/she didn't fit into the story-line. But these secret characters should be available in arcade mode, though they don't need to have an extra ending sequence, maybe just a special illustration of themselves. And of course everyone should get proper fighting intros.

Radiantsilvergun3
10-25-2007, 04:06 PM
Alex won SF3.

Gitaroo
10-26-2007, 06:26 AM
They cant get all sF charas in there. Its a new SF not a remix or compilation. Being realistic, only 4 charas made it from 2 to 3, and i guess those gon be in 4 (ryu, Ken, Chun and akuma), some have to be also from 3 to 4, like urien (pls put some clothes on this time), Alex, Yun
&Yang, Ibuki, Makoto.. It'd be awesome to see some Super Bison, some kinda orochi. but it would be weird to take the past chars again, tho i'd like some of them also :/

My question is, will there be a "Crush the Car" stage again?? there has to be i guess. ;D

pootnannies
10-26-2007, 06:43 AM
Call me crazy, but I really want Street Fighter to go back to it's roots (i.e. Street Fighting). Which means characters like Gill, Necro, Q, and Twelve all get the boot. If I wanted to play a super-natural, bio-engineered, or robotic character I'd go play Dark Stalkers. I'd prefer it if SF4 kept it about the fighting arts (i.e no gimmicy characters).

I can stomach Dhalism despite his un-natural abilities. And Oro is okay outside of this telekenetic boulder chucking super. The same goes for Blanka, aside from the electricity thing he's fairly normal. All in all I'd just like to see more attention placed on fighting styles, and a variety of them (let's drop the miriad of shoto-variants).

it's roots were mostly made up of fake martial arts, that's why all the characters in sf are gimmicky

Shin-Chan
10-26-2007, 08:20 AM
All I need is Chun-Li (a cuter one than 3rd =\)....

bodler
10-26-2007, 01:49 PM
i dint read all this tread, but theres one thing yall gotta remember. they cant just put any character they like like those who wasnt really in 3s. Because maybe after sf4 their might be a cvs3 and having * secondary * characters that are in cvs3 as well as in sf4 might not look to good, perfect exemple, Sagat, Sakura, Vega etc.

So what im saying is their must have a certain balance beetween sf4 and a MAYBE TO COME AND SHOULD COME cvs3 just as their was a balance with cvs2 and sf3 in characters.

if their isnt no cvs3 or any other capcom type of this game then now its ok.

i dunno if you agree with me but thats the way i see it.

The Lone Dragon
10-26-2007, 01:53 PM
Though I'm doubtful, I'd like Capcom to retain Africa's only representative in the SF world: Elena.

Also, we finally need an Australian native...

Sasmasta
10-26-2007, 01:53 PM
R.Mika...

With new sprites...

Or an amazing 3D render.

:yes:

Lobelia Mk. IV
10-26-2007, 01:55 PM
Though I'm doubtful, I'd like Capcom to retain Africa's only representative in the SF world: Elena.
:lovin:

specs
10-26-2007, 01:56 PM
the main characters throw freaking fire balls....

WINNAR! :rofl:

Fadedsun303
10-26-2007, 01:58 PM
I want to see Makoto make a come back. I can picture it now if it's in 3D and they kept in EX moves. It would so satisfying landing s.HPxxEX Hayate with a 3D modeled Makoto.

bodler
10-26-2007, 02:12 PM
dont bring that bitch makoto she piss me off

Sasmasta
10-26-2007, 02:17 PM
Makoto! Maybe in 2.5, but in 3D you'd be sidestepping trying to do her 'rising wind' combo offa SAII. :wasted:

mepaphoros
10-26-2007, 02:29 PM
I'd really love to see all returning characters from Super Turbo, but that's 16...no way that happens :sad:

Sasmasta
10-26-2007, 02:32 PM
Next Gen=More powa!

You might see them ALL! [minus those that kicked the bucket and whatnot]

Daigo Jr
10-26-2007, 02:45 PM
might aswell add old characters, and four origionals(shotos and chun) new characters and different characters from other games.
if you want dudley or something, might aswell play 3S, it wou'dn't be the same to me if thay had same characters i play but different game play.

Sasmasta
10-26-2007, 02:51 PM
I really hope they keep it Street Fighter and not try to slap in Mega Man or anything. Not that I'm against Mega Man, but keep him and the like for the CAPCOM VS games.

Ryad
10-26-2007, 02:54 PM
might aswell add old characters, and four origionals(shotos and chun) new characters and different characters from other games.
if you want dudley or something, might aswell play 3S, it wou'dn't be the same to me if thay had same characters i play but different game play.

I agree with your last statement, but I suppose I take that last statement to heart more than you do, I dont want to see old or (relatively) new chars. I dont want it to look like sf2, sfa or sf3. I want the chars (mostly) to be completely different. Ofcourse bring back ryu, ken, akuma (as hidden boss maybe) and perhaps chun, and I dont mind if they bring back one or two familiar faces... but I think the majority of the chars should be new, with different move sets, and martial art techniques... I also want it to contain the basics of what makes sf what it is... but also include some new gameplay elements
It is a "New Beginning" after all...

Lobelia Mk. IV
10-26-2007, 03:11 PM
dont bring that bitch makoto she piss me off
Hey, so you can leave anytime now, since no one likes you.
In other news, I'd like to see a LOT of 3S's cast come back, and possibly even some of the SFEX characters. I like SFEX, and I always had a soft spot for Nanase. I doubt that they'll be there, though. Arika owns their contracts, so if they go out on a date with Capcom, Arika can fire them. But Arika's a nice guy, so I think he's just make their lives miserable...week...after week....after week.

True Grave
10-26-2007, 03:46 PM
Call me crazy, but I really want Street Fighter to go back to it's roots (i.e. Street Fighting). Which means characters like Gill, Necro, Q, and Twelve all get the boot. If I wanted to play a super-natural, bio-engineered, or robotic character I'd go play Dark Stalkers. I'd prefer it if SF4 kept it about the fighting arts (i.e no gimmicy characters).

I can stomach Dhalism despite his un-natural abilities. And Oro is okay outside of this telekenetic boulder chucking super. The same goes for Blanka, aside from the electricity thing he's fairly normal. All in all I'd just like to see more attention placed on fighting styles, and a variety of them (let's drop the miriad of shoto-variants).

Blanka is a friggin' mutated, green, man-monster thingy that can emit electricity attacks, there is nothing "normal" about that. By your logic about the streetfighting roots, he should NOT be there either, regardless if he was in the original(your logic not mine).

There is nothing wrong with bioengineered or powered up characters. Look at the shotos and their ki-powers, being able to throw fireballs at eachother, then there is guile with the sonic booms. Thats NOT normal either.

It wouldn't be street fighter without this stuff.

Oro's Other Arm
10-26-2007, 06:16 PM
I want there to be at least enough of a Q presence that we know what his story is.

Sasmasta
10-26-2007, 06:18 PM
There won't be a Q in SFIV.

The story will be he never existed...

Because he's so mysterious that not even Capcom knows what his deal is!

[That would be some shit right there.]

epp1e
10-26-2007, 06:42 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing appearances by some Rival Schools characters... we know they're in the same world since Sakura was in Rival Schools, and I think a few of the Rival Schools characters can be excellent in a SF game. I think this especially could work if the storyline involves some time having passed, which means these characters would be older now.

ryuzero12
10-26-2007, 06:46 PM
They should bring everbody from the past SF games.I know Charlie can't come back (unlike Liu-Kang in MK: Armagedon).Except for cheap ass Birdie and Adon from SFA:wasted:

ULTRAMAN
10-26-2007, 07:12 PM
Characters i want to be returned from SF 3

Dudley
Urien (I know he has a banging body,but please put some clothes this time)
Makoto
Yun
Q (Hope capcom reveals the freaking mystery)

MannyKal
10-26-2007, 09:33 PM
Returning SF Chars I'd like

Ryu- Make Ryu a little older, scruffier looking

Ken - change his outfit maybe? he's a rich guy, maybe Robert Garcia style

Chun Li and/or her adopted daughter grown up. The daughter could be an evolved version of chun's movelist, sort of like Rock Howard to Terry.

ROLENTO, cmon, why not.

Sakura, I'd like to see her evolve, perhaps the way they tried to make Sean an evolved shoto clone.

Alex, protagonist of SF3 deserves to come back.

Oro, continue the story they left off with him.

Q :)

Other chars?

Hyo from Rival Schools. Bad ass boss deserves some recognition, excellent way to reference another Capcom franchise (possibly hype up enough for a Rival Schools sequel :)

Kyosuke, for same reasons as Hyo above, they could work in an easy story, maybe Hyo is seeking the power of the boss of SF4, and Kyosuke wants to stop him.

Boss

Cammy possessed by Psycho Power. Give her a teleport, head-stomp/dive, a projectile, make her cannon drill perform like a psycho crusher, and a screen filling super :rofl:


Lastly, is it confirmed that Ryu and KEN will be in it? The trailer may be just showing them fighting, like a blast from the past kind of thing, kinda like Geese in the intro to Garou, or Joe/Mike in the intro to Street Fighter 2.

Tura Satana
10-27-2007, 12:02 AM
ROLENTO, cmon, why not.

Oro, continue the story they left off with him.

Rolento uses weapons. I don't think that anyone should have handheld weapons in regular Street Fighter.

Oro is cool but I think he needs a refreshed movelist. If not then I don't want to see him again.

Boss

Cammy possessed by Psycho Power. Give her a teleport, head-stomp/dive, a projectile, make her cannon drill perform like a psycho crusher, and a screen filling super :rofl:

If they are going to have a female boss with Bison moves, it should be ROSE.. for obvious reasons.

Sasmasta
10-27-2007, 12:29 AM
Oro with two arms yo...

I'm telling ya.

UNSTOPPABLE! [but in 3D make him like Dr. Boskonovitch [sp] from Tekken 3. Fights then just tweaks out at certain moments...due to Oro's age. And maybe Ryu messed him up a bit when they were training. Yeah, those the cover story for THAT idea.]

Gaijinblaze
10-27-2007, 01:00 AM
Not exactly my favourite topic but I'm bored so...

Like:
Dudley
Urien
Alex
Yang or Yun
Guy
Sodom

Don't particularly like:
Chun
Guile unless he looks a lot more sensible
Blanka
Sakura

But I don't really care who's in or not. Based on gameplay I'm sure there will be something I'll like. Never had much of an attachment to many of the "classic" characters, so I couldn't care less if they don't return. An all new cast would be fine with me as long as the replacements are good.

The Invincible Swordsman
10-27-2007, 01:05 AM
I want

Ryu - Final boss. with either a beard or a goatee. Time released
Ken - Mid boss. Has a suit on but takes it off to show his gi when the fight begins. Time released
Akuma - Secret boss. But after this one, I want Ryu to take his place as the super badass secret boss. Time released
Sakura - Taller and more mature-looking. Like Chun Li in Alpha or Lili from Tekken 5:DR
Alex - I like him and he's the main guy from SF3. With him, I'd be o.k without Guile.
Chun Li - More ma