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thedude.com
11-07-2007, 02:53 AM
hakkyokuken (Bajiquan) is a chinese martial arts that's been brought famous by akira yuki from VF series .though is similar to taikyokuken which akira and daigo kazama use it in Rival School Series .however , yun , yang and chunli did not practice that martial art .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bajiquan

in the year 2k2 or something , when they announce CFA , there are a video clip of ryu doing a shoulder tackle that is similar to a hakkyokuken practitioner .

so anyone agree to have it in SF4 ? or ...having ryu using that technique >_> .

Hellion
11-07-2007, 06:22 AM
I never heard of Bajiquan being called hakkyokuken, but the very nature of Baijiquan is defensive and involves walking in literally a circle around your opponent, and you're trained in numerous reversals from an "ackward" stance that ultimately destroys things like Wing Chun because those styles weren't designed to be that "flexible."

IIRC. May have Bajiquan mixed with something that sounds very familiar.

lol the title was very misleading too.

bodler
11-07-2007, 06:41 AM
bajiquan has alot of single strong blows and uses alot of shlouders

thedude.com
11-07-2007, 06:46 AM
bajiquan has alot of single strong blows and uses alot of shlouders

well what would the combat style in the game like ? i believe is going to be like yun with lesser combos like ryu and makoto . damage and stun ouch >_<!! wall bounce !
counter special moves ? like dudley? ( not super )

Hatred Edge
11-07-2007, 07:06 AM
Didn't someone in the last gen MKs have that fighting style?

bodler
11-07-2007, 07:30 AM
i think that would be your chinese gung fu power type fighter.

yun is that fast type little damage, big combo, well he would be the oposite, without forgetting the shoulder moves. he sould probably suck at poking. he should have counters that leads to hard blows or grabs. power moves that might be hard to land but will take out some good damage. dont forget about the shoulders. i dont think he should really look young like yun and yang, maybe middle aged asian man with a mustache or something like that. ( shouldnt look like a student but like yun and yang but somebody who knows his shit )
no projectile.

these are just my opinions for now

thedude.com
11-07-2007, 07:50 AM
i think that would be your chinese gung fu power type fighter.

yun is that fast type little damage, big combo, well he would be the oposite, without forgetting the shoulder moves. he sould probably suck at poking. he should have counters that leads to hard blows or grabs. power moves that might be hard to land but will take out some good damage. dont forget about the shoulders. i dont think he should really look young like yun and yang, maybe middle aged asian man with a mustache or something like that. ( shouldnt look like a student but like yun and yang but somebody who knows his shit )
no projectile.

these are just my opinions for now

i thought it a character using bajiquan should be a young teenager :) and with similar goal like makoto, well-confident and determined attitude , travel around the world to be a champ yada yada . in the middle of his journey he get pwns by the twins lol and then become rivals lol ( yun " i'm faster kekek!! : )

yeah this type of character fighting style would be similar like the twins in slower phase , makoto , alex ,Q or ryu, with no projectiles of course . he/she inflict high damage and stun , due to such strong impact from the trembling blows , opposive fighter gets higher hit stun ,thus tons of link combos and lesser cancels. combos will be as basic like makoto , alex and ryu's BnB ,sadly , do not have rapid jabs and c'shorts . i'm still rather doubtful whether bajiquan character does juggle combos , wall bounce ? launchers ?

edit : I THINK there will be a Hakkyokuken fighter in SF4 , it has become trend ! T6's new protagonist is a hakkyokuken user and so as julia . DOA4's kokoro is also another 1 . why hakkyokuken is popular ?? every time a character perform a stance or a thrust blow . the earth and the camera shakes :rofl: and make us think , " i'm not gonna get hit by that O_O;;;"

edit 2 : their counter mov...eer blows hurts as well ooouuuw ..

Tigerboi
11-07-2007, 08:43 AM
yun, yang, gen= kenpo. Same as Feng from tekken. It's very easy to recognize.


I never knew what Chun took, but it looks like some form of kung fu with it's weird
stances.


Hakkyokoku-ken is very similar to Rindoukan style Karate (a style made famous in america by Sonny Chiba in the 70s and used by Makoto) as far as premise goes. Which is basically, focused, powerful "chi" based strikes. Both styles basically focus on putting down an opponent as fast as possible.


As far as this style showing up in SF goes, well, I dunno. there's alot of well known styles that SF has not used yet (Vale Tudo, Tae Kwon Do and Shaolin Kung fu just to name a small amount) that I think are alot more effective and interesting than this one. That, and alot of SF characters are self tought anyway. (like cody and necro)

Despite what I'm saying though, SF always seems to use multiple variations of styles.

As far as wrestling goes, you've got R. Mika does lucha libre (which I find extremly odd), Gief using european heavyweight wrestling, Alex using american WWE style wrestling (and he's the most awesome hulk hogan reference ever) and Hugo using that "overpower" style made famous by Andre the giant.

then, they've got multiple forms of ninjitsu: Bushin with Guy and Budo with Ibuki.


The point is, street fighter, unlike virtua fighter, lets the characters define the way they fight. not the other way around. SF isn't a game that focuses too much on styles. Hell, the main character uses a fighting style that doesn't even exsist.

The Lone Dragon
11-07-2007, 08:49 AM
edit : I THINK there will be a Hakkyokuken fighter in SF4 , it has become trend!


I think you're right...

Nowaday's EVERYBODY has a Tetsuzanko:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DZEttSHhsWo

bodler
11-07-2007, 09:02 AM
anyways if there is a baji character he shouldnt look young like yun and yang. as far as kung fu goes in all street fighter games, we have an old geezer gen, 2 young triads yun and yang,a bruce lee like character fei long, and a young woman chun li, a middle aged kung fu man would be perfect, but make him look very very cool.

he should have that same feeling you get when your watching cvs2 geese ( not that he should ressemble geese, but that same feeling of that really strong who looks like he knows his shit and is middle aged, and loos like he can fuck you up in 2 seconds )

plus, he shouldnt be related in anyway to yun yang chunli and gen, he should be like that dude that comes out of nowhere with that attitude...dont really have to be evil, but really really serious, maybea little mean.

one of his entrance might be sumthing like : i will show you the power of my legendary fists / there is no obstacle strong enough for my fists / <-- cocky, mean shit like that

and for his winnings / hmps , i feel sorry for you / i couldve finished you with one blow

DropOff
11-07-2007, 01:06 PM
I believe Chun Li is supposed to be using Taichi.

thedude.com
11-07-2007, 07:06 PM
I believe Chun Li is supposed to be using Taichi.

chun li is not only taichi . i heard she trains alot of martial arts . like wing chun , taekwando as well , which is focus on kicking power .

bodler
11-07-2007, 09:11 PM
I believe Chun Li is supposed to be using Taichi.

taichi people dont kick like that

Hisham
11-07-2007, 09:49 PM
She seems to be a mix of Taekwondo and Tai Chi.

Don't quote me on that.

Tigerboi
11-07-2007, 10:02 PM
Eh, I took Tae Kwon do, never EVER seen any kicks like that. I don't see a hint of Tae Kwon Do in the way Chun fights.

EDIT: I seriously say it looks alot like a form of Kung Fu or Wushu. (only chinese arts have stances that goofy looking)

thedude.com
11-08-2007, 12:45 AM
Eh, I took Tae Kwon do, never EVER seen any kicks like that. I don't see a hint of Tae Kwon Do in the way Chun fights.

EDIT: I seriously say it looks alot like a form of Kung Fu or Wushu. (only chinese arts have stances that goofy looking)

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=173 tons of facts about SF cast :S , that's where i know

bodler
11-08-2007, 05:47 AM
chinese martial arts, she studied with her father and gen, aint no tkd up in chun li's arsenal

Ki Shima
11-08-2007, 06:55 AM
:rofl:

martial artists of today dont look at moves and say its that and its this, martial arts is DEEP

and street fighter is DEFFINETLY not traditional

bodler
11-08-2007, 06:59 AM
true in almost all the street fighter characters doesnt even have a specific style, i think thats one of things that makes it special, unless if its a boxer like dudley.

HeaTBlazn
11-08-2007, 09:17 AM
what the I thought ryu and ken used shotokan.
why the hell have we been calling them shotos?

bodler
11-08-2007, 10:17 AM
ansetsuken...The Japanese term ansatsuken (暗殺拳, Murdering/Assassination Fist) is a generic term referring to ANY MARTIAL ART created for assassination. The term "Ansatsuken" is used frequently in video game, manga, and anime series. - from wikipedia

so its ansetsuken without the killing touch, wich doesnt even tell that its a style or wtv, i think shotokan just came out of nowhere

Tigerboi
11-08-2007, 02:55 PM
Shotokan Karate was the term given to it by capcom usa IIRC. When really, actual Shotokan isn't anything like that and Ryu and Ken actually use a fictional fighting style.

Nando
11-08-2007, 06:31 PM
hahaha, cage fighter?
Vega more like Pride?

Kyokuji
11-08-2007, 07:54 PM
Lol, thedude's knowledge of martial arts seems questionable at best.

bodler
11-08-2007, 08:01 PM
Lol, thedude's knowledge of martial arts seems questionable at best.

you are my best friend.....

Saotome Kaneda
11-09-2007, 02:01 AM
Take chara concerns to the Character thread.