2012 December 21 (or 23 w/e)

[ElderGOD]

Being bugged by a couple people wasn't bad, but too many people are getting serious about this end of the world shit.

As if the Mega Disasters shows and all this other crap wasn't annoying enough.

If something that big (like polar shift) occurs, then there won't be much you will be able to do about it.

[epp1e]

The date is 12212012
if you add the numbers up in pairs then it becomes 3323
3 323 = 3v3s with 3 crazy 323 MvC2 players = the end of the world

[Higher-Jin]

The world already ended in the year 2000. The Y2K bug destroyed everything.


ACT LIKE YOU KNOW

[Shizuma_15]

ACT LIKE YOU KNOW


............:lol:

[scum gale 88]

at least I know Ill get some time to play brawl before the end of the world, assuming nintendo doesnt cocktease anymore than they already have.

in a world torn by chaos only the one with the most powerful fists has the right to rule.
D-D-D-DEATHFIST!!!
his life is his mission for peace, through PAIN!!
D-D-D-DEATHFIST!!
across the 9 corners of the earth, all wicked souls fear and relish his name...
D-D-D-DEATHFIST!!
the barren landscape, fisted...by justice!
D-D-D-DEATHFIST

[epp1e]

I just realized that's an election year + it's like a month after elections. I think it's cause that's when AHHHNULLDD will get to run (if Congress somehow passes the bill for making people not born in the USA able to run for president)

[Einlanzer]

if thats true, hopefully i'll get laid by then.

[BBQ]

After mentally preparing myself for the Y2K event and being let down, I really don't give a shit if the world does end up in apocalypse, hopefully I'll be in Alaska snowboarding by then.

[Sasmasta]

I never heard of this...EVER.

[goodm0urning]

The apocalypse has been predicted a number of times, each time resulting in failure. 2012 will be no different.

[DaDesiCanadian]

Someone get Magnetix in here to explain how this relates to TUPAC.

[N-Ken]

The apocalypse has been predicted a number of times, each time resulting in failure. 2012 will be no different.

yeah pretty much

[ckrazy]

- I remember someone telling me the y2k bug was going to be the end of us. << okay what the fuck it 2007 and we still alive.

- Some one was saying about how the world was going to end in 2007 b/c of some religious shit. (it was from catholics) << okay so now it November and yet I am still alive and so is the rest of the world.

- Now there one for 2012? < GTFO!

what next 2069?

[Einlanzer]

yo, on some real shit, did anyone have a computer that wasn't "y2k compliant"? lol.

i'm just wondering if something happened to it once we got into the 2000's.

[Worthless]

Man December 21?The world just has to end on my birthday.

Damn.

[Monte]

10/10/10 Sega reenters the console market. bet it!

[bear]

What I don't quite get about all this end of the world business is why it matters. I mean if everything ends, then there's nothing left to really worry about, is there? The fucking world's gone, buddy.

But Y2K was fucking serious business. I think one of my alarm clocks stopped working.

[El Maniatico]

10/10/10 Sega reenters the console market. bet it!

YO MAN I HEARD THE WORLD ENDS september 11 2001.

john titor also sez world will end 2005 he time traveled back in time to find a computer with UNIX cause apparently we need it in the distant future. he has a flux capacitor in a puckup truck

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:omp5XXsWdgDVIM:johntitor.strategicbra ins.com/graphicsC/c204unit_small.jpg

[uknowuwishuwereme]

if thats true, hopefully i'll get laid by then.

Yeah, same here. I just hope that five years is a big enough window.

[Atryu]

...Or maybe the world has already ended... in our sleep...

and this is the afterlife! ...I mean seriously! ...would you really think Capcom would REALLY announce a SF4?!?

[coco_j]

^ lol. Holy shit I think you're onto something...

[caliagent#3]

The answer lies within this thread:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=125790&page=13

[dn3000]

The planet Nibiru will pass the earth and fuck every thing up. But i wont be mass extiction some people will survive...

[sonicspear64]

10/10/10 Sega reenters the console market. bet it!

Uh.... 9/9/09 is supposed to be the Dreamcast 2 launch. So how could that be possible? :looney:

[white shadow]

The apocalypse has been predicted a number of times, each time resulting in failure. 2012 will be no different.

Well my fear is, just like with the Heaven's Gate cult back in 2000, that there will be people who feel that they are supposed to enact the end of days, essentially making a self-fulfilling prophecy through their own warped sense of entitlement and destiny.

Basically douchebags with a purpose and money.

[umthrfkr]

the world has already ended.

the matrix has you........

[Septimus Prime]

Well my fear is, just like with the Heaven's Gate cult back in 2000, that there will be people who feel that they are supposed to enact the end of days, essentially making a self-fulfilling prophecy through their own warped sense of entitlement and destiny.

Basically douchebags with a purpose and money.
Interestingly enough, I was just perusing (which means to read carefully and not skim, unlike its colloquial usage) the profile of that religious group a few weeks ago, and I'd have to say that at least their beliefs didn't really have them enact the end of days. In fact, I think they didn't even believe in the end of days or that it was coming soon. Instead, the Hale-Bopp comet that passed by supposedly carried with it a ship that would ferry its believers into the Kingdom. The catch was that the potential passengers had to shed their earthly bodies to board the ship.

While there was a lot of controversy regarding brainwashing and whatnot (although I personally believe that the mass suicide had something to do with the then-recent death of the founder's wife), a deeper exploration of the Heaven's Gate religious movement would reveal that they actually were rational people, except they valued the potential of going to the Kingdom on the ship more than that of staying here on Earth.

[DragonSama]

Let’s see so far we were supposed to have flying cars, all the computers in the world crash and destroy life on the planet, get destroyed in a war between giant shape shifting robots, make contact with alien beings, get blow up by aliens, have moon bases, and have a giant metal planet that can eat anything in the universe devour us.

So someone call me when shit actually happens.

[specs]

The world ain't ending anytime soon.

But for some other fun doomsday predictions:

http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/appendix3.html

[AzN_Skater]

SkyNET.

[white shadow]

Interestingly enough, I was just perusing (which means to read carefully and not skim, unlike its colloquial usage) the profile of that religious group a few weeks ago, and I'd have to say that at least their beliefs didn't really have them enact the end of days. In fact, I think they didn't even believe in the end of days or that it was coming soon. Instead, the Hale-Bopp comet that passed by supposedly carried with it a ship that would ferry its believers into the Kingdom. The catch was that the potential passengers had to shed their earthly bodies to board the ship.

While there was a lot of controversy regarding brainwashing and whatnot (although I personally believe that the mass suicide had something to do with the then-recent death of the founder's wife), a deeper exploration of the Heaven's Gate religious movement would reveal that they actually were rational people, except they valued the potential of going to the Kingdom on the ship more than that of staying here on Earth.

rational people =/= suicide

In any case I referred to Heaven's Gate not because they sought to destroy the world, but because they purported a prophetic happening based on "significant" date. Since 2012 is largely considered to be doomsday prophecy I'm sure there will be (or are) a few burgeoning cults that might use it to do mass murders.

Japan got a hit with nerve/ sarin gas attack in a train station several years ago because of a raucous cult leader (Shoko Asahara IIRC) bent on bringing about Armageddon.

[Septimus Prime]

I can argue with you all day about rationality and religion because I'm actually extremely interested in the subject and have/do study it, but this is SRK.

Just know that I disagree with you regarding rationality and "cults."

[platinum_pinoy]

I say SRK should take over the world if it does happen.

[Digitalbooty]

The world ain't ending anytime soon.

But for some other fun doomsday predictions:

http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/appendix3.html

Cool find.

[MrBlank]

i dont see how the Y2k bug ever even got passed scientists....

no seriously. there are a buncha people out there amish, indigenous tribes, and homeless people. who never use technology and get by.

that was the stupidest fucking shit ever....

btw TIMEZONES pwned the Y2k bug...

EDIT: Also in my opinion END OF THE WORLD prophesies are the same as those stupid Chain Letters that say if you dont repost this X amount of times a fucking monster will come out from your ear to suck your dick....

[Taichi]

YO MAN I HEARD THE WORLD ENDS september 11 2001.

john titor also sez world will end 2005 he time traveled back in time to find a computer with UNIX cause apparently we need it in the distant future. he has a flux capacitor in a puckup truck

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:omp5XXsWdgDVIM:johntitor.strategicbra ins.com/graphicsC/c204unit_small.jpg


damn skippy.

[catchafire]

Its amazing how this thread has made it to page two without mention of the people who made this prophecy, the ancient Mayans. They were a people ahead of their time and were very gifted or knowledgeable about time, the planet, the sun, and what not. They predicted that in the year 2012, something disasterous will happen. How do they know?

Well, it just so happens that in the year 2012, eart will cross the galactic center... What that means, I don't know...

[Sacr3D]

They didn't predict about anything bad happening. It just happens that their damn calendar ends. I mean its suppose to end one day right?

[ckrazy]

I should seriously make up some bull shit and write a book about it I could make some serious $$$.

[white shadow]

Its amazing how this thread has made it to page two without mention of the people who made this prophecy, the ancient Mayans. They were a people ahead of their time and were very gifted or knowledgeable about time, the planet, the sun, and what not. They predicted that in the year 2012, something disasterous will happen. How do they know?

Well, it just so happens that in the year 2012, eart will cross the galactic center... What that means, I don't know...
They predicted a new age of great change, it is people that translate that into some kind of purging or Armageddon.

The Mayans do have the most precise calender, but that was because their entire civilization was based on time and charting the heavens.


Secondly, I did some searching and found zip on earth crossing the galactic center. As far as I know our solar system is closer to the spiral arms since the galactic bulge us very hot and most stars are within a few million miles between each other.

[ElderGOD]

Use google or wiki, too lazy to list all the things.

Planets lining up, solar flares reaching Earth, meteor hitting Earth, supervolcano, global warming, etc.

Seriously, the next person to come up to me and ask me if I know about 2012, I will tell him/her "you can avoid it if you go kill yourself... Right NOW"

[Derez-]

Heh, interesting fact. In the last episode of X-flies that is the date of the "end of the world" or rather the date the aliens invade.

As above so below. How will the stars look on that date?

[goodm0urning]

Secondly, I did some searching and found zip on earth crossing the galactic center. As far as I know our solar system is closer to the spiral arms since the galactic bulge us very hot and most stars are within a few million miles between each other.Specifically, we are pretty far out in the inner edge of a barred spiral arm. So yeah, we're far away from the central bulge, which is densely packed with stars. The nearest extrasolar star is four light years away from here.

Penn & Teller did a pretty good episode of Bullshit! that recounted a lot of previous attempts to predict the moment the world would end, which all ended up passing fairly uneventfully. They included some shit about Nostradamus and interviewed some post-apocalyptic survivalists. It was pretty funny.

[Nando]

well, if it des end, I hope it ends in a way were we know about it, and have a giant ass party.... like the sun blowing up.

[~rh]

Oh. This is nice to know.

Well, at least we will have 3 years with DAT STREET FIGHTER 4

[D'Nyc3]

You Are Already Dead!

[G.O.T]

Arnold Scwhartzaneggar says " I Don't Caahhrrree!!!!!"

[Kyoujin]

The world already ended in the year 2000. The Y2K bug destroyed everything.


ACT LIKE YOU KNOW

:rofl: I did not see that coming at all.

[*InVeRs3*]

Many people think that 2012 isn't going to be the end of the world, but it'll be a rebirth.

[DanSC]

i never heard anyone says about 2012, where and who is this rumor come from?

[specs]

i never heard anyone says about 2012, where and who is this rumor come from?

Something about the Mayan calendar ending. Or some bizzare astrological equation. Or the REAL "year 2000." Or something else equally ludicrous.

[Shizuma_15]

They should hold evo on that day might as well if they world is gonna end on that day :rofl:

[Psycho Flame]

On a side note, anyone hear about the discovery of a 5th planet (http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2007/11/06_Cancri.shtml) from a nearby star being discovered. It's not really anything to get TOO worked up about, but it does give hope that there are other star systems with planets that may be 'inhabitable'. I've always thought that was cool, minus the thought of extraterrestrial life.

[Dasiatic]

i never heard anyone says about 2012, where and who is this rumor come from?

psychic force.
but thats just what i have heard.

[Manx]

People who think that Y2K didn't really happen should go work at a data center during daylight savings time and multiply that experience by 10,000. :tup:

[white shadow]

Dane Cook becomes President in 2012.

[specs]

Dane Cook becomes President in 2012.

Don't even joke. :confused:

[Spirit Juice]

You Are Already Dead!

I wouldn't mind if 2012 was actually a nuclear war and our saviors end up being the baddest mother fuckers on the planet that knew the deepest secrets of martial arts. :rofl:

[ADarkSilhouette]

Well if 12/21/2012 is the end times or what ever there is nothing we can do except sit back roll a fat ass blunt and enjoy what every one has been waiting to see for thousands of years.

[akumatrunigga]

I should seriously make up some bull shit and write a book about it I could make some serious $$$.

well that is christianity and wasnt we supposed to die in 6/6/6?
or 8/22/06? (http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brian_whitaker/2006/08/world_to_end_on_august_22.html)
2006 (http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl1.htm)

Matter of fact what about that crazy ass old christian couple that bring all these news articles talking about the same shit

remember left behind
"Left Behind: A Novel of the Earth's Last Days "
"Tribulation Force: The Continuing Drama of Those Left Behind"
"Nicolae: The Rise of Antichrist "
"Soul Harvest: The World takes sides"
"Apollyon: The Destroyer Is Unleashed
"Assassins: Assignment -- Jerusalem, Target -- Antichrist"
"The Indwelling: The Beast takes possession,"
"The Mark: The beast rules the world,"
"Desecration: Antichrist takes the throne,"
"The Remnant, On the Brink of Armageddon," (2003-FEB)

Brian Caldwell, "We All Fall Down."

James BeauSeigneur, "The Christ Clone Trilogy":
"In His Image"
"Birth of an Age"
"Acts of God"

you know what there should be a thread that talks about these books :lol: I can go on and on about this.

[Satomiblood]

Doesn't Megatron come back in 2010?

[goodm0urning]

Doesn't Megatron come back in 2010?2010 is when David Bowman returns as a Star Child and heralds the creation of a second star in our solar system.

It's also when Ken gets cybernetic body parts.

[Ne0phyte]

Someone get Magnetix in here to explain how this relates to TUPAC.
hahaha that shit was hilarious, I think I saved it somewhere I'll check

[Starhammer]

Armegeddon: Because God don't do Ctrl+Alt+Del.

-Starhammer-

[Alzarath]

The world has not ended yet b/c God is actually black. And we all know black folk never get shit done on time :looney:

[Ho0v-Man]

All-Range Mode!

Try a U-Turn!

NOOOO!

[jae hoon]

World was supposed to end in 2002 as well according to Nostradamus. There was like 1000 different years he picked for the world to end.

Dont forget the world ended in 1999 to, because 999 upside down is 666. No I am not making this shit up.

[Will Gotti]

Its amazing how this thread has made it to page two without mention of the people who made this prophecy, the ancient Mayans. They were a people ahead of their time and were very gifted or knowledgeable about time, the planet, the sun, and what not. They predicted that in the year 2012, something disasterous will happen. How do they know?

Well, it just so happens that in the year 2012, eart will cross the galactic center... What that means, I don't know...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_center

Apparently it's the nucleus of the Milky Way and most if not all galaxies have a galactic center. From the wiki page it says that scientists hypothesize that a supermassive black hole lies in the galactic center of the milky way and other galaxies.

Now what happens when we cross that black hole, who knows. Maybe we will get sucked into some tripped out dimension and everything goes Utopian in an instant, Armageddon starts, we all disappear and cease to exist in an instant, whatever. It's only 5 years away so we'll soon find out.

[Aizen]

I should seriously make up some bull shit and write a book about it I could make some serious $$$.

At least over a dozen authors are way ahead of you. Just search "2012" on amazon.com and behold.

[white shadow]

Don't even joke. :confused:


*Dane Cook at a Treaty signing*

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: I fully understand that developing WMDs is a bad bad thing, I will fully comply with...

President Cook: You ever wonder why they call it a "Treeety"? I mean seriously it sounds like something my Aunt Werschie used to give me after supper.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Um...

Pres Cook: "Here's your treaty dear, now be a good boy and help me with my sponge bath."

Ahmadinejad: So could we just sign th...

Pres Cook: Yeaarghhhh!!! that's, gross right? A-woop-woop, still wanted that Kit Kat bad tho... but seriously, her back was speckled like candy...

Ahmadinejad: This is intolerable!

Pres Cook: Yeah I know Ahmaliljon, Jezuz Chrissssst... there was like Craisins and Whoppers everywhere...

Ahmadinejad: This means war!

Pres Cook: Oh but I never started talking about her hoo hoo oh man it was white and fuzzy... ever opened a bar of Almond Joy?

*Mahmoud Ahmadinejad storms off*

Pres Cook: No one's ever left my show! Oh snap! Don't you see? A treaty will spoil our dinnereeery, ha ha say it with me dinnereeeery!....

[AkumaTX]

Here is praying that one day we get a real life Unreal Tournament.

[goodm0urning]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_center

Apparently it's the nucleus of the Milky Way and most if not all galaxies have a galactic center. From the wiki page it says that scientists hypothesize that a supermassive black hole lies in the galactic center of the milky way and other galaxies.

Now what happens when we cross that black hole, who knows. Maybe we will get sucked into some tripped out dimension and everything goes Utopian in an instant, Armageddon starts, we all disappear and cease to exist in an instant, whatever. It's only 5 years away so we'll soon find out.Absurd. Our solar system won't cross the center of the galaxy for the same reason the Earth's orbit doesn't pass through the Sun at any point, and for the same reason the Moon's orbit doesn't randomly take it straight into the face of the Earth. Orbits are utterly predictable. They don't suddenly change, unless an outside supermassive object acts upon them.

For our place in the galaxy to appreciably change at all, there would have to be one hell of a supermassive object--no less than another galaxy--nearby to act upon it. That alone is sufficient enough reason to throw this entire theory down the shitter. The closest galaxy to our own, Andromeda, is 2.5 million light years away--you can see it on a clear night as a dim smudge, no larger than a bright star, in the Andromeda constellation. Andromeda is not suddenly going to show up to move us around in 2012 (fucking absurd). Furthermore, even Andromeda suddenly warped 2.5 million light years in a matter of five years--which is physically impossible--the idea that such an event could be predicted to a degree that we would not only know about it, but also know that we'd wind up in the heart of the Milky Way, is so ridiculous that I could sooner expect to grow five extra dicks and win the lottery on the same day.

Oh yeah, also: if we were to fall into a black hole for any reason, we'd be stretched, torn, crunched, crushed, crumbled, and spewed back into the universe in the form of thermal energy. GGPO Planet Earth.

[Will Gotti]

Absurd. <snip>

I know you're talking about the scientists theories, but I don't know about any of this shit. I can look up in the sky and find constellations but that's about it. I see or read something about the solar system then ponder about it so, I can only imagine the imaginable and unimaginable. Where did you learn your theories from anyways?

[Biolink]

"za Warudo!!!!!!!!!"

[Rekka1210]

even though i really don't care if the shit is true or not, could someone please explain this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y) to me so i can explain it to my friend so he can get off of 2012's nuts?

[ElderGOD]

even though i really don't care if the shit is true or not, could someone please explain this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y) to me so i can explain it to my friend so he can get off of 2012's nuts?

It's a bunch of bullshit with shitty graphics.

Tell your friend that the first movie the matrix is more believable, but that doesn't matter because my msp rapes it.

[orochizoolander]

http://www.artideas.com/Why2012/Why2012.html

Anyways it's not even worth looking into just a semi interesting read my friend linked me.

[Griffen]

Hey Shit Happens.

We all gotta go someday.

MIGHT AS WELL GO OUT WITH A BANG! (If it happens of course.):rock:

[Sacr3D]

http://www.artideas.com/Why2012/Why2012.html

Anyways it's not even worth looking into just a semi interesting read my friend linked me.

tl;dr

Fuck this date, who wants to bet money that NOTHING will happen?

[Doc Holliday]

Ironic this thread was brought back. I'm not into the doomsday bs either but something that kicked my interest was that 2012 was brought up in the Bible Code. For those that don't know what it is....

Bible Code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_code)

I've never heard of it until just recently actually but the general premise behind the whole thing is supposedly the first five Old Testament books (the Hebrew ones) hold an encryption in it. Something to do with seeing certain words grouped together that give a message or something to that effect. Sorry, I haven't had time to research it much. But from what I've heard, words/numbers like 2012, United States, destruction, armaggedon, etc have all been mentioned in this Bible Code deal. Who knows. Just more stuff to fuel the flames.

[SF3LP]

2012 is nonsense...im going to be happily having christmas the days after this supposed date and enjoy my new years for 2013 and live to have a family...so on so forth

[TS]

I hate Paul Mooney.

That is all.

[Sacr3D]

The bible code = A LOT OF BULLSHIT

[Javid]

This is a very informative documentary about this subject, but take it with a grain of salt I guess:

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000094918

Very interesting stuff.

[BIG BAD MOG]

Wasn't there something with a shit ton of connection between Lincoln, Jesus, and JFK? Who gives a shit. If we die we die.

[tharimrattler]

Wasn't there something with a shit ton of connection between Lincoln, Jesus, and JFK? Who gives a shit. If we die we die.

I never heard of this. Details please.

Nice thread.

[Sacr3D]

There's also Obama being the anti christ bullshit. Man people are just bored.

[The Fireboy]

There's also Obama being the anti christ bullshit. Man people are just bored.

Agreed. After 2012, it'll be something else that people can make a big deal about "OMFG _____ is going to happen and end the world!!!"

[MaxVandalism315]

and then once 2012 passes by there will be another theory/rumor about the earth really ending on another random year.

[TS]

I would like to murder anyone who believes the 2012 shit on January 1, 2013.

I really would.

[tech master]

SRK, you are in GRAVE danger

[ckrazy]

and then once 2012 passes by there will be another theory/rumor about the earth really ending on another random year.

At least the next one probably be 3xxx, we don't have to deal with it. :rofl:

I don't care what anyone thinks, but I am not dieing anytime soon. I still got a lot of shit to finish.

[ElderGOD]

and then once 2012 passes by there will be another theory/rumor about the earth really ending on another random year.

2029, bet it.

It's as if people are giving up and actually trying to ensure predicted shit actually does happen.

Have fun living in fear to whoever believes in all this shit and making your own existence worse as a result.

Also, people shouldn't mix real issues with OMFG 20-fucking-12!!!!!!

Global warming, the economy, nuclear war potential, etc, it's there, so instead of doing nothing and counting days try to actually do something positive in respect to the issues.

[MaxVandalism315]

I don't care what anyone thinks, but I am not dieing anytime soon. I still got a lot of shit to finish.

i know right, gotta be alive for mvc4 and sf5

[Matman]

My friend says that people will suddenly turn into cannibals after the effects of 2012.
I hope it has to do with a zombie outbreak so I can put my skills to the test

[Higher-Jin]

Didn't we already go through this in 2000? Oh right, but people say "That's different." No, not really. It's exactly the same. I'll tell you why this apocalypse thing made a comeback and it's the same reason it will always make a comeback until the end of times finally does happen and some douchebag in the year 3012 will finally be able say "I told you so!"

People have boring lives, and this is a very interesting topic with very interesting possibilities. Deep down they know nothing will happen, but why ruin the fun? It's far better for their conversations and creative faculties to speculate. As the old saying goes, "People never let the truth get in the way of a good story," and boy do they love a good end of the world story. Look up apocalypse predictions and you'll see that literally hundreds of thousands of predictions have been made since the beginning of time. Hell, entire religions are more or less based on the belief that the world will end soon, and if you didn't live your life a certain way and you're not wearing the right color pants (green, btw) when the grim reaper comes to earth riding on a skeleton horse while giving a werewolf a reach around then you will be LEFT BEHIND! Oh no! I don't want to be left behind! That's bad right? I better make a quick trip to Sam's club and buy bulk toilet paper and spaghetti o's!

If you want a real conspiracy theory it's probably all a marketing ploy by the toilet paper and canned soup industries to rake up business during these shitty economic times. Damn you Chef Boyardee! Damn you to hell!

[BustaWolfe]

The apocalypse has been predicted a number of times, each time resulting in failure. 2012 will be no different.

Note to self: Create religion but always makes the dates ambiguous.

[Night]

I always wondered why 2012 is considered more "official" than all other Nostradamus predictions that have claimed the same amount of authenticity.

[white shadow]

I always wondered why 2012 is considered more "official" than all other Nostradamus predictions that have claimed the same amount of authenticity.

Because it is the only "prophecy" that has been predicted independently by separate civilizations such as the Maya and Chinese.

[ckrazy]

Because it is the only "prophecy" that has been predicted independently by separate civilizations such as the Maya and Chinese.

I have a question... isn't the Mayan and Chinese calender base off the moon? (Or that what I've heard)

That why we call the Chinese's New Years "Lunar New Years?"

If that the case can't we just throw this theory out the window, from the start?

[white shadow]

I have a question... isn't the Mayan and Chinese calender base off the moon? (Or that what I've heard)

That why we call the Chinese's New Years "Lunar New Years?"

If that the case can't we just throw this theory out the window, from the start?

I have no clue, but I've always figured that the sun or moon was the cause for such similarities. Hence that's why I never gave it much credence.

[BustaWolfe]

Because it is the only "prophecy" that has been predicted independently by separate civilizations such as the Maya and Chinese.

The Chinese never predicted the end of the world of any kind, only the mayans did. So the only authenticity is back to the mayans - which brings us back to the original question, why is 2012 significant than any other ones?

[catchafire]

If the world were to end, we would def know something was up prior to midnight NYE 2011. Think about it.

[white shadow]

The Chinese never predicted the end of the world of any kind, only the mayans did. So the only authenticity is back to the mayans - which brings us back to the original question, why is 2012 significant than any other ones?

This is what I'm referring to: http://www.december212012.com/articles/I-Ching/Timewave_Theory.htm

Timewave zero theory which predicts the same date.

[gridman]

just like 06/06/06, 07/07/07 and 08/08/08, 2012 will be no different.

expect MASS MEDIA COVERAGE on it the whole entire year (probably in 2011 too) up until december 2012.

[nGuman]

This will be sumAZNapocalypse.

[DietSoap]

It'd be badass if this was all one big viral marketing campaign, and on 12/21/2012 SEGA releases the Dreamcast 2.

...

:sad:

[The Damned]

I would like to murder anyone who believes the 2012 shit on January 1, 2013.

I really would.

I would as well.

I can only hope that they would have all killed themselves (and only themselves) by then, though.


Anyway, yeah, nothing's going to happen. Well, at least nothing world-ending. I'm sure there will be mass deaths of some kind unfortunately, especially because it seems like it's getting far more attention (from shysters) than 1999 or 2000 or the 2006 bullshit I didn't even hear about until AFTER 2006. Even if the world does end, I'm glad to see everyone else on SRK realizes that we couldn't do shit about it.

Ugh. We keep getting more books in about it at work and I'm pretty sure that we're just going to be indudated come next year (if I'm even still at that job next year) and onward.

Similarly gridman is probably also correct in saying that the media will probably focus on it from late 2011 onward. Thankfully I hardly watch TV nowadays as it is, so I would hope it isn't too painful/annoying for an entire year of that bullcrap.

Interstingly enough, since that (horrible) 2012 movie comes out this year, it will probably be on TV by the actual year 2012 and it will probably get played nonstop. :bluu:

[ckrazy]

So I guess I learn a little more about this subject. (Just a little though, so I still probably wrong but whatever)

First off December 21, 2012 is NOT EVEN an apocalypse date. The Mayans never predicted an apocalypse date. December 21, 2012 is just the date that the Mayan calender ends on. People assume that since there no more dates after it, so it must mean it's the Mayan's prediction for end of life as we know it. :confused:

Couldn't it just be that they were too tired to keep dragging that shit out? Or probably left it unfinished. Maybe the next generation was meet to keep it going, but never had the chance since their people were slaughtered.

Their calender is compose of interlocking wheels with one side numbers and the other pictures. How accurate can that shit be? Not to mention it a lunar calender, and we know lunar calender are 11 days short.

[Septimus Prime]

My calendar ends on December 31, 2009. OH SHI—!:looney:

[DS]

My calendar ends on December 31, 2009. OH SHI—!:looney:

It was nice knowing you.

:coffee:

[gridman]

First off December 21, 2012 is NOT EVEN an apocalypse date. The Mayans never predicted an apocalypse date. December 21, 2012 is just the date that the Mayan calender ends on. People assume that since there no more dates after it, so it must mean it's the Mayan's prediction for end of life as we know it. :confused:


Which is why I dont get where all the WOAH END OF THE WORLD shit is coming from.

[white shadow]

First off December 21, 2012 is NOT EVEN an apocalypse date. The Mayans never predicted an apocalypse date. December 21, 2012 is just the date that the Mayan calender ends on. People assume that since there no more dates after it, so it must mean it's the Mayan's prediction for end of life as we know it. :confused:

Yeah it's supposed to be a "great change" or renewal.


I just hope nutjobs won't try and incite the "apocalypse" by means of mass murder and mayhem like shoko asahara. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoko_Asahara)

[Bob Poundmax]

I LOVE how some people want me to believe that the Mayans predicted Nazi Germany, the war on terror, Iraq, the shitty economy and all the fun that we've had up till now but they could not predict that the Spaniards would come and be offended by their customs and that they would be completely annihilated? That's some disrespectful arrogance right there.

[JSN723]

well, its weird though. They thought Cortez was one of their gods returning to them. Its strange, that particular god doesn't look similar to them at all. Blue eyes, white hair... their mythology stated that they met him a long time ago and then he departed into the sea promising to return. Would be trippy if some European made it to their area waaay in the past but died on the trip back so history never recorded it.

[Okazaki III]

I don't believe it (like pretty much everyone else in this thread). What's more interesting is the effect this type of nonsense has on people - Sep, White Shadow respectively about Heaven's Gate and Shoko Asahara.

Do any of the younger SRK members know about Jim Jones and Jonestown? I wonder if they would include this in history lessons for younger generations? Or probably from all the Kool Aid references. Ha, it took 909 lives for a phrase or saying about Kool Aid to be mainstream accepted. That's crazy.

I only quote a small section:


On November 18, 1978, 909 Temple members died in Jonestown, all but two from apparent cyanide poisoning in an event termed "revolutionary suicide" by Jones and some members on an audio tape of the event and in prior discussions. To the extent the actions in Jonestown were viewed as a mass suicide, it is the largest such event in modern history and resulted in the largest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the events of September 11, 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

Do a search on Youtube for "Jonestown deathtape" if you want to hear his speech before the mass suicide.

[white shadow]

well, its weird though. They thought Cortez was one of their gods returning to them. Its strange, that particular god doesn't look similar to them at all. Blue eyes, white hair... their mythology stated that they met him a long time ago and then he departed into the sea promising to return. Would be trippy if some European made it to their area waaay in the past but died on the trip back so history never recorded it.

Yeah they thought cortez (the bastard) was the return of their god- whose name I can't remember at the moment.

[DJ Ether]

I LOVE how some people want me to believe that the Mayans predicted Nazi Germany, the war on terror, Iraq, the shitty economy and all the fun that we've had up till now but they could not predict that the Spaniards would come and be offended by their customs and that they would be completely annihilated? That's some disrespectful arrogance right there.

I LOVE how some people dont know that the Mayas came before the Aztecs. They vanished without a trace before the Aztecs ever came to be. The spanish came at the height of the Aztec empire. That's some ignorance right there.

[Hermit_Naii]

World is gonna end. Either:

A: New World Government enslaves us all.
B: Global nuclear fallout.
C: Polar shift
D: We get stuck in the gravitational pull of another planet causing us to completely freeze for a day, or a week, or whatever. Causing major disasters.
E: We all ascend into the 4th or 5th dimension.
F: Aliens come and do something crazy.
G: Jesus comes back.

Yeah, we screwed. :arazz:

[MrBlank]

The day before 2012

im going to convince all these girls to participate in a huge end of the year last chance to fuck party.

we gonna go out with a Bang.

[Nonamekaiser]

This is a very informative documentary about this subject, but take it with a grain of salt I guess:

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000094918

Very interesting stuff.

thanks, i didn't know of Guba. Good Vid, makes the Mayans seem smart.

[Weeks]

Yeah they thought cortez (the bastard) was the return of their god- whose name I can't remember at the moment.

Quetzcoatl. They also thought some ancient race of like, demigods (The Tectala or something) were actually supposed to be pale, so they thought maybe this was just that race returning.

Cortez, clever bastard that he was, exploited that shit for all it was worth. It doesn't help that Motecuzoma was a total cowardly indecisive idiot

[Weeks]

I LOVE how some people dont know that the Mayas came before the Aztecs. They vanished without a trace before the Aztecs ever came to be. The spanish came at the height of the Aztec empire. That's some ignorance right there.

Maybe he's thinking of the Inca

[goodm0urning]

Which is why I dont get where all the WOAH END OF THE WORLD shit is coming from.It's a classic argument from ignorance. "I don't know what this shit is, so obviously the first conclusion I jump to is the right one!"

[Sacr3D]

World is gonna end. Either:

A: New World Government enslaves us all.
B: Global nuclear fallout.
C: Polar shift
D: We get stuck in the gravitational pull of another planet causing us to completely freeze for a day, or a week, or whatever. Causing major disasters.
E: We all ascend into the 4th or 5th dimension.
F: Aliens come and do something crazy.
G: Jesus comes back.

Yeah, we screwed. :arazz:

I know people who actually believe that one.

[ElderGOD]

World is gonna end. Either:

A: New World Government enslaves us all.
B: Global nuclear fallout.
C: Polar shift
D: We get stuck in the gravitational pull of another planet causing us to completely freeze for a day, or a week, or whatever. Causing major disasters.
E: We all ascend into the 4th or 5th dimension.
F: Aliens come and do something crazy.
G: Jesus comes back.

Yeah, we screwed. :arazz:

How so? How do you know these events have a high potential to occur on 2012?

Please enlighten me.

[goodm0urning]

How so? How do you know these events have a high potential to occur on 2012?

Please enlighten me.I checked the Mayan calendar, and sure enough, 1/13/2009 is the day sarcasm dies.

[Shin_Akuma_]

2012 does mark the end of the world... of Warcraft! God willing!

[ShinAkumax]

2012 is the year everyone in this thread feels like a total douche for giving into pack mentality and lacking independent thinking, and the forget all about it in a day or two. I remember when I was worried about Y2k... what a waste of time. Now reptilian overlords, that's a real issue right there people.

"This is your control, Chief of Police Robinson. You are an old man, George Nada. Tomorrow morning at eight o'clock, your heart will stop. Please repeat."

[ElderGOD]

2012 is the year everyone in this thread feels like a total douche for giving into pack mentality and lacking independent thinking, and the forget all about it in a day or two. I remember when I was worried about Y2k... what a waste of time. Now reptilian overlords, that's a real issue right there people.

"This is your control, Chief of Police Robinson. You are an old man, George Nada. Tomorrow morning at eight o'clock, your heart will stop. Please repeat."

Y2K was the day of rest, because everyone who worked on fixing all the outdated code and didn't sleep for an entire week passed out by the New Year :/

[PcLanAdmin2]

The date is 12212012
if you add the numbers up in pairs then it becomes 3323
3 323 = 3v3s with 3 crazy 323 MvC2 players = the end of the world

So that's how it will all end. I knew Marvel would have something to do with it.:looney:

[ckrazy]

So that's how it will all end. I knew Marvel would have something to do with it.:looney:

Marvel....

WE KNOW DRAMA!

TNT ain't got shit on Marvel! :rofl:

[ElderGOD]

Marvel is a friendly game...

Marvel is a friendly game...

:sad:

How can she stab?

[Sakura.Densetsu]

While I am not one to fall into End is Nye fads, there is alot of major shit slated to happen in 2012. Planned real events, some scientifically predicted, and of course the usual soothsayer stuff.

It is safe to say that something big will likely happen in 2012, but i doubt it will be world ending.

Unless Palin runs for president.

[ckrazy]

While I am not one to fall into End is Nye fads, there is alot of major shit slated to happen in 2012. Planned real events, some scientifically predicted, and of course the usual soothsayer stuff.

It is safe to say that something big will likely happen in 2012, but i doubt it will be world ending.

Unless Palin runs for president.

I was going to post maybe Palin will be running for president in 2012, but noooo you had to beat me to it. :rofl:

[Sacr3D]

Here's the thing, one person "predicts" something. Then it creates a chain reaction of stupidity. Like in 2000 I think just about everyone predicted their own bullshit.

[Bob Poundmax]

I LOVE how some people dont know that the Mayas came before the Aztecs. They vanished without a trace before the Aztecs ever came to be. The spanish came at the height of the Aztec empire. That's some ignorance right there.

I love how some people overreact to their bullshit and then try to push their paranoia on other people and then try to condescend when it doesn't work.:rolleyes:

The fact remains that your taking some prophecy bullshit WAY too fucking seriously and frankly its beginning to piss me the fuck off. You pretentious attitude is beginning to piss me off as well because when someone points out the holes in your theories your pussy starts to hurt.

Let me state my opinion again: How are these ancient civilizations going to accurately predict the end of the world without being able to predict their own downfall? Surely, they didn't have the conceit to believe that their empire would last forever...oh wait.:wonder:

[GKR-Kangda]

Thats easy.

Lets say I am studying the stars and i say, a comet will reach earth in 73 years that will cause tidal waves. but then im killed in a mugging on the way to my car. is my prediction wrong because i couldnt predict the mugger?

The thing is, you cant predict what youre not studying. the mayans must've studied something. but they werent studying the thing that killed them.

[Bob Poundmax]

So youre saying that human history can be predicted by analyzing the stars...okay.

I'm sorry for being so stupid. I'll never do it again, I promise.

[DJ Ether]

I love how some people overreact to their bullshit and then try to push their paranoia on other people and then try to condescend when it doesn't work.:rolleyes:

Oh noes!! You pulled the "rolleyes" smiley. You got me. How dare I point out the ignorance in your post.

You mad, brah?! :rofl:


The fact remains that your taking some prophecy bullshit WAY too fucking seriously and frankly its beginning to piss me the fuck off. You pretentious attitude is beginning to piss me off as well because when someone points out the holes in your theories your pussy starts to hurt.

What theories? This is all about your ignorance on the history of Mesoamerica. Nothing more. Since I'm beginning to piss you off,I better stop this instant. Cause Bob Poundmax is "getting pissed off" and I dont want to suffer your wrath.

:rofl: Clown.


Let me state my opinion again: How are these ancient civilizations going to accurately predict the end of the world without being able to predict their own downfall? Surely, they didn't have the conceit to believe that their empire would last forever...oh wait.:wonder:

If you would of posted the above earlier instead of your "pretentious" post you would of got a discussion going. Too LATE for THAT...brah. :lol:

[-SuGaR-]

Mankind will destroy itself before the world ends.

[Septimus Prime]

Just a quick note: the end of mankind will not necessarily be the end of the world.

[NegroNinja]

Just a quick note: the end of mankind will not necessarily be the end of the world.
It'll be the end of the one we care about at least?

[Sacr3D]

Hey guys remember when we were supposed to die because of the LHC?

[Sakura.Densetsu]

The only person who really believed that was a Botanist.

[The Damned]

Just a quick note: the end of mankind will not necessarily be the end of the world.

Yet NegroNinja points out why most people don't get that: we are (somewhat understandably yet that doesn't make it any less annoying) utterly self-important.

I mean, pretty much the reason that most people get involved in environmental stuff is because ultimately they feel that either a)humans have caused stuff to happen to the environment (which is true sometimes) or b)humans should "help 'save' the planet" because we have some type of power (in the form of five rings) despite not being able to inhabit 75+% of the planet.

It's stupid conceit like that causes stuff like PETA or pandas still being around or Captain Planet.

To think that this 2012 shit is only to get progressively worse just makes me even more annoyed than usual. Sigh.

[Shin_Akuma_]

2012 marks the end of the world for you mere mortals. I on the other will accend to the stars with Christopher Lambert and Freddie Mercury and will be singing Princes of the Universe while watching Highlander with our holographic projector modules eating cosmic dust and taking dumps on developing worlds. It's goinh to be really fun to bad you all will miss out.

[kimo_kata]

On December 21, 2012. The world will be changed forever. But for me, its going to be another Friday.

[white shadow]

Just a quick note: the end of mankind will not necessarily be the end of the world.

Step yo Cockroach Empire up SON!

[humbag]

fucjk this send odf the wolrs shjiot.

Justr sedn tehme to see me.

I will be like..

Get the fuck of of earth fuckers.

Thylkk be like, OHH SHIT WTYF DID I DOO.

Id be LIke YEAH FUCKERS GET THIS SHIT OUTTAW HRERE

Theyds be like "OMG YTHI DUDS SRIOUS!!!"

Id BE liek : FUCK YEAH GTDO EARTH FUCKERS:

then earth be ok

[Manx]

This is what I'm referring to: http://www.december212012.com/articles/I-Ching/Timewave_Theory.htm

Timewave zero theory which predicts the same date.

I'm ready to be a constant. Do you know who your anchor is? :bottle::tup:

[Crayz Penguin]

i stopped reading the timewave zero thing when the dude said he takes peyote and magic mushrooms to help him open his mind and that hes not even a physicist. go to school, get some credentials, learn some maths and come back when you're clean imo.

[Hermit_Naii]

i stopped reading the timewave zero thing when the dude said he takes peyote and magic mushrooms to help him open his mind and that hes not even a physicist. go to school, get some credentials, learn some maths and come back when you're clean imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDBuQya4io8
Nicely timed message! :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuiKJ0rRTAo

[MOD]

This is what I'm referring to: http://www.december212012.com/articles/I-Ching/Timewave_Theory.htm

Timewave zero theory which predicts the same date.


Terence McKenna was a psychonautical explorer, a special kind of genius who believed in the power of psychedelics to unlock the mind's ability to ascertain the secrets of the universe. If anything can be learned through the theories of complexity, it is the interconnectedness and gestalt through all things. Through the use of psilocybin-containing fungi and DMT-containing aboriginal mixtures, McKenna began formulating a theory of time that at first was very intuitive and abstract.

GTFO :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[white shadow]

GTFO :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Higher Prophecy!

[Apoc]

i stopped reading the timewave zero thing when the dude said he takes peyote and magic mushrooms to help him open his mind and that hes not even a physicist. go to school, get some credentials, learn some maths and come back when you're clean imo.

One does not need psychadelics to achieve the connection. However, it is strange to believe any particular scientist. You do not understand the politics involved.

In order to get credentials you have to profess belief in things that are not scientific. You have to give answers on tests that you know are false. The suppression of information is not merely a CIA thing. People just have a guided belief in doctors and scientists etc. What happens when you control the title by controlling what is accepted as scientifically proven?

Here is the problem with current science and the way it is passed to the end user(you). You need credentials to be taken seriously by non-scientists like you and me. The credetials are under the control of people. Here's the funny part. Any child can understand the scientific method and use it. There is absolutely no need to gain some sort of credentials to perform science. That is like saying you need a diploma to make change at 7-11.

Then comes the peer review. First you must lie or accept lies to gain the credentials. Then when you get a chance to publish things. Your work goes under peer review. These are people in place that gain credentials and are paid experts. Scientists have the elitist mentality as well, many times. When the experts are paid to tow a political line and a new scientist comes up with a truth that contradicts their truth, just like politicians, they undergo the process of character assassination.

This has been going on since well before we were born but they used to kill people. Galileo was put on the chopping block for telling the truth. We all know now that the Earth is round. Science and Politics did not approve of that stance and he was killed for being the better scientist.

This happens anytime someone mentions the word "psychadelic." Science is 100% still messing with the penial(sp?) gland which is what is affected by these substances. They are working on uploading and downloading information THROUGH this gland. Why do you think in the Matrix movies(matrix theory is pretty old) that they jack you in at the pineal gland and that is how they upload programs to the brain.

Yeah, science is doing this now. Look it up.

I hope that you are not offended but if you only listen to a scientist that has credentials or a so-called expert, you are listening to someone who gets paid to control the ideas of the masses regardless of the truth. ANYone can practice science. Just like anyone can practice math. You can document it and even be 100% right and still be called a quack. Once one is an expert and paid as such, they are not likely to give up their money and clout and announce that they were wrong for 20 years, hehe.

I used to do the same thing so I am not saying it is messed up to want credentials. I am just saying that when it comes to information, there was not always a freedom of information act:) Even now, information is paced... as it should be, imo, many times.

Apoc.

[The Damned]

This has been going on since well before we were born but they used to kill people. Galileo was put on the chopping block for telling the truth. We all know now that the Earth is round. Science and Politics did not approve of that stance and he was killed for being the better scientist.

Umm...I get what you're saying, but unless I'm getting confused with another astronomer, I'm pretty sure that Galileo was just put under house arrest practically until he died. So I don't understand why you're saying he was "killed", especially since that's pretty light considering what the church used to do a lot of people in medieval times.

Also, I would say that people are more likely to disagree with this particular non-scientist not because he's not scientist, but because he uses mind altering drugs.

[Apoc]

Umm...I get what you're saying, but unless I'm getting confused with another astronomer, I'm pretty sure that Galileo was just put under house arrest practically until he died. So I don't understand why you're saying he was "killed", especially since that's pretty light considering what the church used to do a lot of people in medieval times.

Also, I would say that people are more likely to disagree with this particular non-scientist not because he's not scientist, but because he uses mind altering drugs.

I guess its my point of view. His science was killed and that was his life. His life was killed when his contributions were halted.

Caffiene is a psychadelic and it is ok. I'm not into "drugs" in general. The problem is drawing a line from one mind altering substance away from another. What if one is studying the sub-conscious? If they do not know how to turn it on and off at will, some use help. It seems as if he is just studying the connections caused by activating the pineal gland.

The problem there is that people go too far, I think. They get caught up in needing some drug to access other areas of the mind instead of creating a neuroelectrical path on their own.

sigh. I can not believe I am posting in a 2012 thread. geez


Apoc.

[The Damned]

I guess its my point of view. His science was killed and that was his life. His life was killed when his contributions were halted.

Ah, I see. That would certainly make sense then, though he did manage to get some writings out in secret while still under house arrest and since they managed to ultimately have affect, I would say that church didn't ultimately "kill" him even like that.


Caffiene is a psychadelic and it is ok.

I'm probably one of the few people that see caffiene as the drug that it is and thus avoid drinking it, so I'm going to agree with you're saying once again but say that for me that wouldn't matter.

I mean, cigarretes and alcohol are also "okay", but we all know the prolonged health effects of those. As you said, it just has to do with people influencing what gets passed as "okay" or not.


The problem there is that people go too far, I think.

Agreed.


sigh. I can not believe I am posting in a 2012 thread. geez

Also agreed.

[Sakura.Densetsu]

Yet NegroNinja points out why most people don't get that: we are (somewhat understandably yet that doesn't make it any less annoying) utterly self-important.

I mean, pretty much the reason that most people get involved in environmental stuff is because ultimately they feel that either a)humans have caused stuff to happen to the environment (which is true sometimes) or b)humans should "help 'save' the planet" because we have some type of power (in the form of five rings) despite not being able to inhabit 75+% of the planet.

It's stupid conceit like that causes stuff like PETA or pandas still being around or Captain Planet.

To think that this 2012 shit is only to get progressively worse just makes me even more annoyed than usual. Sigh.

I love how Environmental/Ecologcal pundants forget we are a part of the Environment/Ecology. It is natural for a superior species to surpass and often remove weaker species from the food chain altogether. It is natural for highly succesful (and even moderately succesful) species to change the environment around them.

If we were intelligent trees would we try and do something about all the poisonous Oxygen we are creating?

Clearly we should use our head and make the world a better place for ourselves and our children, or else we will darwinize ourselves. But not every endangered species need be saved. It is just as negative to try and preserve a weak failing species as it is to destroy it, in fact from a natural selection persepective trying to save it is the wrong choice.

Though when animals and particularly people tend to have emotional responses to animals that are "cute", being Cute is a very valid evolutionary tactic for survival.

[goodm0urning]

This has been going on since well before we were born but they used to kill people. Galileo was put on the chopping block for telling the truth. We all know now that the Earth is round. Science and Politics did not approve of that stance and he was killed for being the better scientist.How do we know that, exactly? If the scientific public really is a cabal of elites that controls the ideas of laypeople, then how is any published data regarding the size, shape, or composition of the Earth reliable in any way? And if credentials are distributed with the purpose of using scientists to control people, who's paying for it and how do they ensure that their efforts are coordinated? To what purpose does this plan work, and why wouldn't the authorities exploit more effective tools like religion or government indoctrination?

Galileo's ideas weren't suppressed by the scientific community; they were suppressed by the Catholic church. And since he was one of the first modern scientists, I don't know that his findings are any more or less valid than those of any other modern scientist.


Caffiene is a psychadelic and it is ok.Caffeine is a stimulant.

[Apoc]

How do we know that, exactly? If the scientific public really is a cabal of elites that controls the ideas of laypeople, then how is any published data regarding the size, shape, or composition of the Earth reliable in any way? And if credentials are distributed with the purpose of using scientists to control people, who's paying for it and how do they ensure that their efforts are coordinated? To what purpose does this plan work, and why wouldn't the authorities exploit more effective tools like religion or government indoctrination?

Galileo's ideas weren't suppressed by the scientific community; they were suppressed by the Catholic church. And since he was one of the first modern scientists, I don't know that his findings are any more or less valid than those of any other modern scientist.

Caffeine is a stimulant.

Disclaimer: I am joking and bored.

You are absolutely right. How do we know that alcohol kills brain cells? For that matter, how do we know that it is really 2009? How do we know which vitamins are good for us and what substances are really harmful in the long run? How do we know that any information is true or false?

I suppose critical thinking. When you do not listen to any one side in particular and you absorb all of the information and then process it, you've got a better shot than assuming one segment has the truth. For example, they say the victor writes history. How do we know that? lol

There are committees that even determine what is allowed to be taught in public schools.

You also misinterpreted what I wrote. To answer your question anyway. Taxes and lobbyists pay for an agenda, but hey, I'm not a bank or a lobbyist:) Dude, it is simple. There are people in place that control public functions, right? Like what is taught in public schools. Who coordinates it and who pays for it? Taxpayers and politicians. Wtf? Who pays for or decides how we drive or what taxes we pay or how long a military tour is or how long a presidential term is or what laws are passed or what the criteria is for a graduation. Are you serious? Why wouldn't the authorities exloit more effective tools like religion or government indoctrination? I have to assume you are joking.

The catholic church and political power have gone hand in hand for centuries.

...and technically, any output provides further input for any working computer like the human brain. My cock is a stimulant. Caffeine has a psychoactive effect.

Everyone has a choice on their view homie and I'm just replying in like kind.

Speaking of 2012(as if I really care), how were the pyramids built? On rolling logs and pulleys, wtf? A kid can do the math there buddy. It doesn't change what science said for how long? Who the f*ck just gets their info spoonfed? That's the type of dumbsh*t that makes racism an actual issue when it is clear that there are brilliant and stupid people of every race as well as athletes, etc.

It should be obvious that I'm teasing and joking along with ya but if it isn't, I'm making it clear now, lol.

doggonit! Quit baiting me!

Poc

[SIMPLY_HUGO]

I shall spare the world a few more years.


Atleast until I see the end of naruto, megan fox naked, and have a three some.

Until then the world is safe.

[Einlanzer]

the end is near :crybaby:

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[Demon Dash]

Terence McKenna was a psychonautical explorer, a special kind of genius who believed in the power of psychedelics to unlock the mind's ability to ascertain the secrets of the universe. If anything can be learned through the theories of complexity, it is the interconnectedness and gestalt through all things. Through the use of psilocybin-containing fungi and DMT-containing aboriginal mixtures, McKenna began formulating a theory of time that at first was very intuitive and abstract.
I actually think ideas like this hold some promise...

[VI The Sixth]

What will happen on December 21st? I will wake up, scratch my balls, brush my teeth, go to work and sleep.

[El Chupa Negro]

man if the world ends kenshiro will fight Raoh and that would be the only reason I have to leave to actually see that epic shit happen.

Finally Hokuto Shinken will quell the demons of this end century era. ATATATATA