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11-25-2007, 03:18 PM

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28231.html

Sacr3D

11-25-2007, 03:44 PM

That blue effect behind Ryu reminds me more of a boost skill like Hokuto No Ken.

Shodokan123

11-25-2007, 03:52 PM

That blue effect behind Ryu reminds me more of a boost skill like Hokuto No Ken.

god i hope not

Dencore

11-25-2007, 04:06 PM

Was Ken breaking the throw hinting a parrying?
Anyway my guess between 2D and 3D is that they are going all out in revolutionizing the genre. I have some ideas.

ElderGOD

11-25-2007, 04:25 PM

Kind of useless vid, we already broke down the vid on day one.

They're fighting in 2 dimensions with 3D graphics, which is 2.5D.

I just hope the blue dash is not a CC.

Indy

11-25-2007, 05:56 PM

Kind of useless vid, we already broke down the vid on day one.

They're fighting in 2 dimensions with 3D graphics, which is 2.5D.

I just hope the blue dash is not a CC.

could just be a regular super art. They have that blue thing too.

SiLLiEMutAfuKA

11-25-2007, 06:38 PM

Was Ken breaking the throw hinting a parrying?

Ummm ... no? Wtf? A tech throw hints a tech throw perhaps?

:confused:

Sacr3D

11-25-2007, 07:18 PM

god i hope not

scary thought isn't it ?

goodm0urning

11-25-2007, 07:43 PM

could just be a regular super art. They have that blue thing too.It could also be some other random skill. Look at all the shit in CvS2 that has a shadow behind it--roll cancels, high jumps, delayed wake-ups, etc.

I am placing my bet right now that it will be mainly 2.5D with maybe a scattering of 3D movement here and there, a la SFEX.

ElderGOD

11-25-2007, 07:54 PM

SFEX.

I agree that those games had potential, but seeing SFEX in a SF4 sub forum gives me nightmares, and I'm not even asleep...

goodm0urning

11-25-2007, 08:09 PM

I agree that those games had potential, but seeing SFEX in a SF4 sub forum gives me nightmares, and I'm not even asleep...So read the whole sentence and realize that I'm not saying the game will be another EX. I am merely likening it to EX in the sense that the vast majority of the moves will occur on a 2D plane, with 3D graphics.

Sacr3D

11-25-2007, 09:06 PM

If it was 3d maybe they would have named it SFEX4. So I'm pretty optimistic about this one.

Duckdee

11-26-2007, 04:25 AM

Resident Evil 4 was a big change to the series, without a name change...

polarity

11-26-2007, 10:45 AM

If it was 3d maybe they would have named it SFEX4. So I'm pretty optimistic about this one.

seeing as SFEX is made by arika probably not

chunbelievable

11-26-2007, 11:34 AM

I am pretty open to whatever Capcom really want to do with IV except for just one. The only thing I am really dedicated to not wanting in the game are CC's.

All SF rules went out the window during CC's and the games that have them became all about them. I'm hoping the blue shape thingy in the trailer is a normal super art effect. HOPING.

Nokato

11-26-2007, 11:38 AM

That vid was trash. These things had already been pointed out, and they're still speculation. No one needs to make vids until actual footage is made. These "teasers" only aggrevate people more.

Lonewolf_Fenrir

11-26-2007, 02:17 PM

Well Chris Svensson actually said there were hints to the direction of the game in the trailer, so i think it's a good idea to analyze it!
Pretty good vid, even if most of it is obvious, those who didn't bother checking it carefully will at least know what we do.
Let's hope we get more info soon...

R | C

11-26-2007, 03:01 PM

What a dumb vid.

"OMG ! Last SF series !? Final Battle between Ryu and Ken !?"

Stupid.

Big3D

11-26-2007, 03:40 PM

ok i see it as
2.5D
and epic stand point in the story, something huge is gonna happen and maybe Ken and Ryu are training for it. the return of gouken or some form of him?
the blue dash i see could be a dash sort of like in SVC:Chaos had, or it could be something like spend a quarter of a super meter to have a small invincible dash, then start a combo, he didnt have that blue glow as he was hitting him... so no there wont be a custom combo thing and i doubt it was a super. i think it was a technical aspect like a "quick step" kinda thing. or it could be like that dash button in Rumble Fish, they use the same type of 2.5D thing and its hinted that they will have a hand in its design
the comboed throw could be like melty blood, i havent played to in depth into the game, but i see them pull off big combos then they finish it with a throw
then i also noticed that when Ryu did a big hard kick and Ken blocked it Ryu was able to step back, i didnt see anything that lead me to believe that there would be any "parry" in this game. and you see Ken dash in after Ryu after he steps back, maybe its a way to lessen block stun and dash in to punish a blocked move... ala SVC:Chaos

it looks very good but all these are speculations untill capcom let us in on the dirt

goodm0urning

11-26-2007, 03:41 PM

What a dumb vid.

"OMG ! Last SF series !? Final Battle between Ryu and Ken !?"

Stupid.But it's the same crap people have been speculating about here, so it's not like SRK has room to talk.

chunbelievable

11-26-2007, 04:43 PM

On the blog page (blog.capcom.com) the article regarding GT's analysis, the bloggers reports that a lot of the answers to the questions we have benn asking will be answered "very very soon." Here's hoping that very very soon is actually not that far off. It's been a good amount of time since we had some solid news on SFIV.

Sacr3D

11-26-2007, 06:37 PM

BigRick70

11-26-2007, 07:06 PM

Hmm... there might be clashing in this game...

You see Ken and Ryu clash punches and kicks... nobody else noticed?

Big3D

11-26-2007, 08:02 PM

Hmm... there might be clashing in this game...

You see Ken and Ryu clash punches and kicks... nobody else noticed?

you mean kinda like GGXX?
how moves of the same strength cancel each other out

Duckdee

11-27-2007, 04:51 AM

Sometime in December please.

It was said there would be an update before the end of the year.

The Furious One

11-27-2007, 05:05 AM

What a dumb vid.

"OMG ! Last SF series !? Final Battle between Ryu and Ken !?"

Stupid.

I thought they meant last in World Warrior series. Not the final SF game ever :rofl:

haaris_abbasi

11-27-2007, 11:02 AM

Shadow = EX Moves

BigRick70

11-27-2007, 11:47 AM

you mean kinda like GGXX?
how moves of the same strength cancel each other out

Yeah it would be something like that but without the big lightning...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/BigRick/clash.jpg

Also it seems that they might add some kind of dodging feature in it

Oh, and we don't see any parries (yes!)

Hellmonkey

11-27-2007, 04:46 PM

Making the community guess at what the game will be like isn't a smart move by Capcom IMO. If they haven't decided yet, they should say so, otherwise don't try to tease us, it just irritates most.

Big3D

11-27-2007, 06:14 PM

Shadow = EX Moves

no its not EX moves
EX moves are yellow
they even said that in the video if you pay attention

and he didnt do an "ex move" of any sort, no hurricane kick, no uppercut, nothing like that... and those punches as a move arent Ryu's style at all, more a bit Kens even then
he dashed in and started a series of punches that lead to a throw
which means its probably some kind of quick step dash feature

Kayin

11-27-2007, 06:30 PM

Comboing into throws?

Nickoten

11-27-2007, 06:47 PM

Wait, I thought you could combo into throws in SF2, like when you hit someone with Zangief's low short and then SPD them? Or is that a tick? My understanding of how throws work in that game is honestly a little sketchy.

SnickerSnack

11-27-2007, 10:50 PM

It's only a tick.

AFAIK, the only SF where you can combo into throws is A3, and that's only when you have VC active.

drobizh

11-28-2007, 02:41 AM

mk into command throw with oro? mk into comm throw with ibuki.

Duckdee

11-28-2007, 04:31 AM

Making the community guess at what the game will be like isn't a smart move by Capcom IMO. If they haven't decided yet, they should say so, otherwise don't try to tease us, it just irritates most.

The game is in development, they know what it'll be like. Teasing us is all part of marketing hype, it's common practice.

Disclaimer - I'm basing this on what I've seen over the years. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Big3D

11-28-2007, 05:48 AM

mk into command throw with oro? mk into comm throw with ibuki.

those are "command throws" cant be tech'd
which in reality arent considered "throws" at all, they are considered moves
Throws cannot be comboed into, or arent meant to be.
the only reason certain throws do combo is because its a specific setup or its a glitch. otherwise true throws cannot be comboed, except for CC in alpha 3

so no those do not count

drobizh

11-28-2007, 06:00 AM

i agree, i just couldn't resist

caliagent#3

11-28-2007, 07:26 AM

It's only a tick.

AFAIK, the only SF where you can combo into throws is A3, and that's only when you have VC active.

those are "command throws" cant be tech'd
which in reality arent considered "throws" at all, they are considered moves
Throws cannot be comboed into, or arent meant to be.
the only reason certain throws do combo is because its a specific setup or its a glitch. otherwise true throws cannot be comboed, except for CC in alpha 3

so no those do not count

You can combo into normal throws in cvs2 also. Both ways, involve a CC though. First one is the rolento and dan glitch, and the second is just by timing your attack and throw

Takezo

11-28-2007, 09:03 PM

Did anyone else notice that Ken was using Akuma's homing kick?

Vicioso

11-28-2007, 09:55 PM

hellhound

12-02-2007, 05:27 PM

I think I saw a side step move in the trailer.