Any microbiologists out there?

[Oni_Ryu]

Anybody with experience in microbiology? (Or even just biology?)

I'm writing a taxonomy report on E. Coli. Basically, I have to break down E. Coli in each taxon (Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, etc...) At each taxon, I have to write about its characteristics (how it eats, reproduces, moves, its habitat, evolution, etc..)

So far i've broken it down to:
Kingdom: Prokaryotes
Phylum: Proteobacteria
Class: Gamma Proteobacteria
Order: Enterobacteriales
Family: Enterobacteriaceae
Genus: Escherichia
Species: coli

I've got plenty information on Prokaryotes and Escherichia. However, I can't really seem to find any information on the others (especially Proteobacteria and Gamma Proteobacteria.) I've been all over the internet and to the library scouring books for information, I can't seem to find anything.

Does anybody know of any good books or websites where I could find this information? It would be much appreciated, thanks guys :wgrin:

[Night]

The sea was angry that day my friends... like an old man trying to sell soup in a deli.

Oh wait, that's a marine biologist...

My sister graduated from Cal with a degree in molecular biology back in 1998 and works at Genentech. Not sure if that's in the same ballpark either.

[FOBio]

when do you need this by? i know of a book that i used to determine the species of an unknown bacteria. we did various tests like gram staining, indole, motility, etc etc and used said book (that i forgot the name of) to narrow down the possibilities. i can look for its title and/or ask a friend who's currently taking the class.

the book will tell you some specifics about different species and show its similarities/differences to other species in the same genus by showing which tests are positive/negative. it'll also narrow it down per section, so it'll give a rough description of, say, Enterobacteriaceae (as well as some exceptions to said family).

[Oni_Ryu]

If I could get any information ASAP, that would be great. My paper isn't due for a week, however, i'm not going to be able to work on it for a while after today, so i'm trying to knock most of it out now.

Any book titles or information in general would be great, thanks!

Also, I hear Bergey's manual is a good source for this kind of stuff. Is that true?

[FOBio]

fuck! that's the name of it. yeah, i used bergey's manual. there's 2 versions of it - you can use the shorter one (i forgot the name of that version as well. haha)

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That's all I know.

[Oni_Ryu]

lol, I think its broken down into chapters or sections or something like that. I'll have to look into it a little more.

[FOBio]

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(and for being an even bigger nerd)

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[Oni_Ryu]

lol, those are far more practical than the one I was taught:

King Pete Came Over For Green Spaghetti

edit- my bad, theres no 'Old'

[shinjohnny]

Hey Oni-Link, are you going to include the serotypes with mention of the verocytotoxigenic serotypes? That oughta land you some bonus marks.

Mention the significance of it.

Also, how it is sometimes confused with the other E. coli

Entamoeba.

[OneInchPunch]

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[FOBio]

so my friend responded back to me - it's definitely the bergey's manual. there's a determinative and systematic version to the manual and (i believe) the determinative is the one you might want to use. that's the one most of the class used and it's the "thinner" one. i use that term loosely because either one can be a fucking table rather than level one out.

[Oni_Ryu]

Hey Oni-Link, are you going to include the serotypes with mention of the verocytotoxigenic serotypes? That oughta land you some bonus marks.

Mention the significance of it.

Also, how it is sometimes confused with the other E. coli

Entamoeba.

I don't know if i'm going to mention anything about VTEC, the paper is supposed to mostly cover the bases on E. Coli and the various taxons it belongs to. The furtherst i've strayed away from the subject was when I mentioned Legionellales (intracellular gammaproteobacteria) not to mention, I only have 4 pages to work with.

so my friend responded back to me - it's definitely the bergey's manual. there's a determinative and systematic version to the manual and (i believe) the determinative is the one you might want to use. that's the one most of the class used and it's the "thinner" one. i use that term loosely because either one can be a fucking table rather than level one out.

Ah, thanks alot for the tip. The paper for the most part is done, but i'm going to give it a once over when I have the spare time. So far i've only seen Volume 2, which covers all proteobacteria but Gamma (doh!)

It doesn't help that I have to present this to the class :xeye: