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SunocO
11-28-2007, 01:42 PM
http://www.gamesradar.com/us/pc/game/news/article.jsp?releaseId=2006032219817514003&articleId=200711239291393082&sectionId=1006&pageId=2007112394150531054

It's sad to think, but there simply are some people out there who put your own gaming skills to shame. They're impossibly good, unthinkably quick and mindbogglingly crafty.

Fortunately, thanks to the wonders of the Internet, we can at least enjoy their high-skills thrills vicariously. So here's 10 of the world's greatest gamers, all displaying the sort of abilities that make us weep at our inadequacy. Enjoy!

guess what the first video in this article features

The greatest Street Fighter comeback ever

Non-Street Fighter obsessives might watch this clip, filmed at a SF tournament, and wonder what the crowd is so worked up about. So here's a quick explanation: The player fighting as Ken is at rock bottom, with almost zero health, when Chun Li launches a 15-hit super combo.

Watch the 'parry' move that Ken makes - every single parry is a move in itself, requiring superb timing, but Ken makes 15 of the things in perfect succession, topped off with a uber-difficult mid-air parry before following up all this hard work with his own ridiculously demanding super combo to win the match, the tournament and the adoration of a horde of baying onlookers.


:rofl:

goodm0urning
11-28-2007, 01:54 PM
Daigo didn't win the tourney.

CrouchingTiger
11-28-2007, 01:54 PM
Haha, I'll check this link out. They should have put in one of Daigo's Balrog comebacks in SF2. That's way more impressive than his Third Strike comeback. It also doesn't take as much of an understanding of the game to appreciate. Nothing complicated going on in SF2, just insane beasting.

nameingway
11-28-2007, 01:55 PM
oh man i haven't seen "fists on fire" in a minute, thanks for the link.

Figcoinc
11-28-2007, 01:59 PM
Why isn't K-Fed on the list!!!

He beat Puma on Pro-Wrestling on the NES!!! It was printed in Nintendo Power too!!

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/27/kevin-federline-rapper-family-man-master-gamer/

surewhyyoucan
11-28-2007, 02:02 PM
Way to credit Daigo in that one....

Why isn't K-Fed on the list!!!

He beat Puma on Pro-Wrestling on the NES!!! It was printed in Nintendo Power too!!

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/27/kevin-federline-rapper-family-man-master-gamer/

Hey, I beat the Great Puma, does that mean I get to bang Britney too? :wonder:

Monte
11-28-2007, 02:04 PM
wtf is that puyo pop vid doing on there, I thought the premise for that article was godly gamers in action not a good gamer against a level 1 cpu.

SunocO
11-28-2007, 02:11 PM
i was also wondering if that super mario's clip is computer assisted? i'm thinking he just picked out vids he found and just called it the 10 godliest moments =/

pherai
11-28-2007, 02:13 PM
This article screams "I have no idea how good any of these people are at these games but I thought they were impressive, so I linked them anyway. I'm not good at any games." It might as well just be a video thread on some random message board.

nameingway
11-28-2007, 02:18 PM
i was also wondering if that super mario's clip is computer assisted? i'm thinking he just picked out vids he found and just called it the 10 godliest moments =/

for real, i'm pretty sure i've seen a 3 minute and 11 second mario 1. could be off by a bit, but i know it's better than that garbage.

Gasp
11-28-2007, 02:20 PM
whats funny is some of these have been topped
maxx300 maxx unlimited and legend of the maxx all fall short to fascination max
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HGrpGuDD0_Y
guitar hero II freebird < guitar hero III dragonforce.
im sure theres a "harder" song on pop 'n' music.
puyo pop gtfo, beating the cpu? why not show the guy who beat soul calibur on expert with the fishing controller.
that portal one always gets me though.

:)

gridman
11-28-2007, 02:27 PM
The portal one and Ikaruga one both blew my mind

Monte
11-28-2007, 02:31 PM
I wish I knew what is so impressive in the portal vid. Why didn't I pick up the orange box from Best Buy for 25 bucks?! :sad:

Carpet Lint
11-28-2007, 02:41 PM
Holy shit, is he still chaining correctly in akimbo Ikaruga?

Will Gotti
11-28-2007, 02:44 PM
I'm not even a DDR fan, never really was, but this stupidness was drawn into my "STFU you dumb muhfucker" radar.


From article:
http://www.gamesradar.com/us/pc/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=200711239291393082&releaseId=2006032219817514003&sectionId=1006&pageId=20071123103344968097
There's plenty of Dance Dance Revolution vids featuring crazy Koreans pulling out nifty moves, or people performing choreographed dance routines. But that's not playing the game, it's memorising the movements.It's memorizing the movements? WTF do you think they did before creating those nifty moves Poindexter? Man whoever wrote that article must be a fucking greaseball.

I mean we've heard about the fatasses and old people all across the land realizing 5 years after the games' initial release that it's a good workout. We've all witnessed horrible players embarrassing everyone around them watching and themselves. We've also seen the players who've "memorized", isn't that the bare basics, movements but play like bow legged chickens with their asses sticking out looking stiff.

Watching players doing nifty moves is the icing on the cake. Whoever wrote that article is a retard. No shit memorizing moves is playing the game AND so is being creative. Being creative isn't part of playing the game? :wtf: Wow.

CrouchingTiger
11-28-2007, 02:47 PM
I wish I knew what is so impressive in the portal vid. Why didn't I pick up the orange box from Best Buy for 25 bucks?! :sad:

ZOMG go buy the Orange Box right now. Even at $50 it's a steal. Or if you just want Portal, buy it through Steam individually. It's like $20 for just Portal I believe. It's a ripoff to buy them individually unless you just truly have no intent in playing the other games. And yeah that Portal vid was indeed impressive. :cool:

Wasn't that Mario vid tool assisted? That vid shouldn't be on that list.

Einlanzer
11-28-2007, 02:54 PM
that ikaruga one is crazy.

SunocO
11-28-2007, 02:57 PM
i say just get the cracked version of jsut portal..u can find it floating around somewhere if that's all u want to play. if u want to play tf2 however, u should just go out and buy it for 50.

as for memorizing, if you think about it almost everything on that list is from memory. but still, u need serious skill to taht any of that. like the tetris player playing that shit with no picture. it's still memory but come on now, who in the right man can do that? lol

Will Gotti
11-28-2007, 03:08 PM
as for memorizing, if you think about it almost everything on that list is from memory. but still, u need serious skill to taht any of that. like the tetris player playing that shit with no picture. it's still memory but come on now, who in the right man can do that? lol

Yea that's exactly my point, taking the game to a whole other level and using your imagination. Compounded w/utilizing basics like memorizing step inputs, which is the simplest point of the game, and then tearing the game out it's frame with crazy shit makes for longevity. That writer's a mooley. They need to go look up the terms longevity and replay value and then look at what they said trying to be condescending towards players doing "nifty moves" taking the game to greater heights.

R | C
11-28-2007, 03:34 PM
I've seen that Ikaruga footage a while back ago,
and I still can't get over how mind blowing that is!

The dude must have a siamese brother attached to him or somethin' ...
shit's crazy !

igotalottastuff
11-28-2007, 03:38 PM
WTF On the Tetris Grandmaster game? If you guys didn't watch the whoel thing watch it again, it gets legendary after half of it, and godly at the credits.

Return of Shiki
11-28-2007, 03:44 PM
That Tetris vid is pure insanity.

Japanese gamers are not human.

Sonichuman
11-28-2007, 03:44 PM
I CALL BULLSHIT ON THAT TETRIS VIDEO...WHAT THE...FUCK!? and that ikaruga one was insane!

DS
11-28-2007, 03:44 PM
I like how he had to search for that Daigo/Justin vid on youtube, but still can't put the names in for some reason. I'm just going to refer to Daigo as "that dude that played Ken".

BeaTs*
11-28-2007, 03:50 PM
that DDR section alone screamed NOOB..ugh...that fascination maxx dude would get owned by bemera NM...

freestylers not impressive/not playing the game???? GTFO!

edit: well...ddr freestylers aren't too impressive...PIU ones are though..it could be argued that DDR is a stepping game whereas PIU is step and freestyle game.

wtf is up with crazy koreans though? ugh

white shadow
11-28-2007, 03:51 PM
I've seen most of the one player ones but as a Kirby's Avalanche player I found the Puyo Pop combo was very impressive, although I've done combos of similar caliber in heated matches though.

The Tetris Grandmaster one is old but still the most impressive display of skill I've ever seen in a game.


That list needed less Parry comeback and more One Pixel Cable comeback.

Gasp
11-28-2007, 04:00 PM
for reference
tetris player's name is

TGM HOLiC or Jin8

he's nuts.

igotalottastuff
11-28-2007, 04:01 PM
Yeah serious. I mean I love watching that Daigo, and still do... but the match w/ Umezono vs. Hayao is much more insane... half super parry-to-a fucking 720.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FwP6yD72WQA

NekoSempai
11-28-2007, 04:09 PM
The Ikaruga one is friggin nuts. Same with the crazy portal one and of course the Tetris Grand Master Mode, even though thats not even the hardest mode in that game me thinks. O.o

All the music game ones are meh at best. Even I can near 99 freebird, and I don't play the game much. The pop'n one is easy compared to Cowboy Ex *there's like.. 10 people in the world that can pass the damn thing*, and the DDR one would have been impressive maybe back in 2002. Legend Road isn't even considered too difficult by tournament standards anymore, not to mention they switched off repeatedly and their score still sucked.

I could have swore I saw the mario one on youtube a few months back where it said it was tool assisted, but all mario 1 speedruns look the same, so who knows.

He even threw in Daigo aka 'the player fighting as ken' winning the tournament lol. Gotta love the research he did for these vids.

DJcream
11-28-2007, 04:34 PM
My impression, Games Radar doesn't know shit about non-mainstream games.

1. We all can agree that the Daigo thing isn't as impressive as they make it out to be. "Uber hard air parry" is a joke observation. I like the aforementioned Hayao 720 during Chun super video more.

2. DDR squad is also a joke. There are people out there (some of which are even American) that can do a better job at beating the Legend Road oni course. Personally, I find Yasu's Max 300 stealth AAA more impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_9dYBLSDk

3. Ikaruga that one was godlike. No objection

4. As said before, GHIII's Dragon Force >>> GHII's Freebird. It'll be a while before someone 99% Through Fire and Flames on Expert.

5. Five-minute Mario, somewhat godlike. That video was not done by tools so it's legit however the original Mario was not that hard. Until someone does an unassisted Lost Levels or Kaizo Mario run, then it'll be godlike.

6. Portal is not that hard to figure out. I believe that anyone can replicate that run with enough practice. I don't associate Godlike with something that can be done again.

7. The Tetris one is also very impressive, especially during that stealth section.

8. I like how no one on the site can name Pop 'n Music. The song is impressive but i think what would fool people is the speed mods on the notes, making it appear to move faster when it's still rhythmically the same. Difficult song but not by much. Personally Beatmania IIIDX (especially doubles) is the most challenging music game followed by Drummania.

9. Puyo Pop was impressive. I wouldn't have the balls to let my screen fill all the way to do a massive combo, even on Tetris Attack/Planet puzzle League.

10. Mindsweeper is also impressive since it is the world record. Though i wished that he'd be more pro and don't flag anything.

that's my ANALysis and i'm sticking too it.

mastermind
11-28-2007, 04:43 PM
Have people emailed/commented this dude and told him how much of a gaming douche he is?

Gasp
11-28-2007, 04:45 PM
The pop'n one is easy compared to Cowboy Ex 1


he's not playing
top player
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cnuOi770Z7k
this one you can see more of the insane patterns going on and how hard the guy is trying to pass it
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TAjzgue2-8E

white shadow
11-28-2007, 04:48 PM
for reference
tetris player's name is

TGM HOLiC or Jin8

he's nuts.

I tried finding out who this guy was like 3 years ago.

How do people find this stuff out? lol

goodm0urning
11-28-2007, 04:49 PM
Have people emailed/commented this dude and told him how much of a gaming douche he is?"Dear ASSFACES.

Your article about godly gamers was a travesty to humanity. Your information was wrong. There are WAY better videos if you actually KNOW the games you're talking about. Unless you hire expert fact-checkers to help you write your gay articles, I will forever boycott your shitty website and tell everyone I know on the forums I go to that they should do the same. In fact, I'm going to start a petition at petitiononline.com that says you have to stop writing unless your FACTS are right.

NOT yours truly,

Waldo Poindexter Buttram IV"

NekoSempai
11-28-2007, 04:55 PM
Have people emailed/commented this dude and told him how much of a gaming douche he is?

http://radarnation.gamesradar.com/thread.jspa?threadID=27250&tstart=0

People are already getting on it lol.

voodazz
11-28-2007, 05:17 PM
Tetris vid gets my vote. I could barely see the blocks.

bill_rizer
11-28-2007, 05:18 PM
Damn that Ikaruga Kid is a Newtype.

Jaldaboath
11-28-2007, 05:43 PM
edit: well...ddr freestylers aren't too impressive...PIU ones are though..it could be argued that DDR is a stepping game whereas PIU is step and freestyle game.

Some PIU stuff:

This is nutz:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f3S22qjSjT0&feature=related


And this is just blatantly retarded:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hn0TdYaMyuY&feature=related
(Not really, those are the credits,but I've already seen pairs of kids giving it a shot around here :xeye:)

OmNiExiZt
11-28-2007, 05:45 PM
I only give props to the Ikaruga video. I still haven't beaten that game yet.

*ONEZ*

Nando
11-28-2007, 05:49 PM
I use to play iidx and pop n all the time, and some songs on pop n are just stupid, and they seem like a joke.... But iidx one handed is hard hahahah

Night
11-28-2007, 06:00 PM
I'm a fan of the OPPOSITE.

Super Mario FRUSTRATION I find more entertaining!

part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwvtREuu6yo
part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0TlZpgaEZ4

BeaTs*
11-28-2007, 06:01 PM
Some PIU stuff:

This is nutz:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f3S22qjSjT0&feature=related


And this is just blatantly retarded:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hn0TdYaMyuY&feature=related
(Not really, those are the credits,but I've already seen pairs of kids giving it a shot around here :xeye:)yeah, that dignity is 2005 stuff...theres WAY harder stuff now...again beatmania level hard...and we have a new mix that came out last week...I'm afraid to see what will top off Bemera/FA2-2/Chimera/Anothers D:

Jaldaboath
11-28-2007, 06:07 PM
yeah, that dignity is 2005 stuff...theres WAY harder stuff now...Well, yeah I know there's harder stuff around, but I don't thinnk some of the new songsreally give non-PIU players sucha clearshot view of the hard parts of the game so I just went with one of my youtube favorite'd vids.

R.P.D rookie
11-28-2007, 06:16 PM
Haha, I'll check this link out. They should have put in one of Daigo's Balrog comebacks in SF2. That's way more impressive than his Third Strike comeback. It also doesn't take as much of an understanding of the game to appreciate. Nothing complicated going on in SF2, just insane beasting.



Yes Siiiiiiiiiiiir

http://youtube.com/watch?v=q9XEO275-GA


"HUAAAAGGGHH!!" -Balrog

BeaTs*
11-28-2007, 06:22 PM
Well, yeah I know there's harder stuff around, but I don't thinnk some of the new songsreally give non-PIU players sucha clearshot view of the hard parts of the game so I just went with one of my youtube favorite'd vids.indeed

though the BEE [A] vid is just sorta foolishness, though there are charts that are serious and go right up to the same level of stupidness...ugh

here's an interesting chart, a NM [A]. for one person it would seem DUMB but it was figured out to be meant for two people...

Chart View (http://youtube.com/watch?v=A-yyf14zBfc)

How it's meant to be done (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZywoDNEgsHo)

BEE NM [A] may very be along those lines

Galactic
11-28-2007, 06:29 PM
that ikaruga vid was one of the most impressive things I have ever seen a human being do.

^_-;

NekoSempai
11-28-2007, 06:54 PM
indeed

though the BEE [A] vid is just sorta foolishness, though there are charts that are serious and go right up to the same level of stupidness...ugh

here's an interesting chart, a NM [A]. for one person it would seem DUMB but it was figured out to be meant for two people...

Chart View (http://youtube.com/watch?v=A-yyf14zBfc)

How it's meant to be done (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZywoDNEgsHo)

BEE NM [A] may very be along those lines

Yeah. Bee makes about as much logical sense to do with 2 people as Raw did. Joke charts at their finest.

Pump would get better recognition on the states if the timing window wasn't the size of Texas. DDR/ITG are all about PA/FA, where pump is all about CAN YOU KEEP COMBO? That's made even more apparent through their scoring system, being that higher combo with less perfects wins.:looney:

That's of course changed in something like PIU:Pro, but I don't exactly see that taking off in the states either.

Shazay
11-28-2007, 06:58 PM
Why isn't IIDX on the list?

I'm sure this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=GjnFRI9Wayw) belongs somewhere on it.

BeaTs*
11-28-2007, 07:03 PM
thingsI would say Pump get enough recognition as is. What with WPF and USPF and teams from all over the country getting serious. DDR and ITG are rather dead compared to PIU as of late...we get a new mix every year too.

The timing window is different in different mixes of pump. And it definately does not make or break PIU's recognition. Even with timing difficulty along the lines of ITG/DDR, all that shit has been passed. PIU still had yet to see the hardest shit passed with an S no bar etc. It's more about pushing the limits of what a single person can do (like Final Audition 2-2 [A]). The timing window in place is good enough for that aspect. More casual gamers are getting into it, and the serious players are always rewarded with our constant new mixes and challenges. Pump is living the "dance" game dream at the moment.

higher combo being better than perfects makes sense to me. It's not like perfects count for nothing anyway, obviously a higher combo and more perfects counts for something. It is still more of a challenge to Full Perfect Combo the hard stuff in pump with the larger timing window (still has not been done for the anothers and boss songs, NM, no bar) then to get max perfects in ITG/DDR

NekoSempai
11-28-2007, 07:16 PM
counterstuff.

Well, you're ignoring the fact that

1: I specifically said that it doesn't get much recognition in the states. USPF is a joke. It's basically a 4 man max tournament, with the rest of the player base not even on the same league, especially factoring in NM skills. May as well take a winning sbo team, split em up, and put em in a 32 man bracket with toddlers.

2: Finding a good condition pump machine is borderline impossible in a majority of areas, and yes I include Dave and Busters / Jillians / Chucky Cheeses in this demographic because my experience with said places is that theit arcade workers don't know or at least care about pad maintenance.

3: Pump is a nobar game because WPF and co say it should be so. You definitely wouldn't see many people even breaking a * on ITG 12/13s if they were forced into a general no bar tourney standard like pump has. You can't compare S'ing a pump song no bar to passing a DDR/ITG song with bar.

4: Pump has a HUGE following in countries that aren't the US, and WPF acknowledges it. Why else would we only get 1 speed / FS slot for the past 2 years WPF when Mexico / Brazil / Korea / Argentina / etc got multiples between the years? DDR nonetheless is a dying arcade game. ITG at least has R21 in most areas and the ability to play whatever the hell you want with a little knowhow. Groovemania in January, Nationals 08, and other planned largescale tourneys say that the ITG community wont let ITG die off just yet. However ITG is an American game period. There IS no international comp for better players.

BeaTs*
11-28-2007, 07:39 PM
thingssorry, I didn't know this was supposed to be some "counter" stuff stuff :xeye:

but anyway

1. haha, a little dumb, but I'll work with it. USPF is for people to get together and play. obviously there's gonna be way better people, that's how it is at a lot of tournaments. Especially seeing as how it's relatively new/still growing (in the states...and USPF-wise). USPF is still more of something than any tournament for any other "dancing" game. Seeing especially as how it is a qualifier for the World Pump Festival. With all the countries involved, USPF is perfect as it is. It isn't a joke, it's the best thing compared to DDR/ITG gatherings and the like

2. pad condition doesn't mean much. Especially with andamiro releasing new models of cabinets (and of course you know they had the part of cabinet in ITG2). Regardless, it's even harder to find a DDR/ITG machine, let alone one in good condition. PIU pads are designed better first off, 2 it still gets new mixes=new machines. There are definately more PUMP machines, and more working ones, than DDR/ITG. at least/especially in big cities (which unfortunately is what counts)

3. no one said it was no bar, that's just tourney rules...and obviously it requires more skill. I'm fine with people barring. if they can pass hard stuff cool! but fact is after that, no-bar is the way to step your game up. Actually I can compare, mainly because no-bar isn't as important in that sense: Even if these players did use the bar on the hardest stuff in PIU, they still wouldn't get FPC (they have tried) so that argument is pointless. no barring ITG stuff is very much possible, if some of the great pump players could somehow transfer their skills they could I'm sure. but they have bigger challenges to accomplish

4. umm yeah, what's you're point?

PIU still is getting good enough recognition in the states(though I expect more). Is doing better than ITG/DDR (though very recently) and that's without taking into account the international success. Timing window still has nothing to do with any success though...haha

NekoSempai
11-28-2007, 08:08 PM
snip.

Wasn't trying to start a counter war or thread hijack lol, just going about my daily lurking and posting and this happened.

1.) >.>, You may as well have a 3 man tourney between Dread, Jboy, and Johnny until someone GREATLY steps up. There IS no room for upsets beyond that in WPF format national matches the way the US good player base currently is. I just feel that the 'U must make a club, list it, and get it approved to qualify' format is ridiculous. It's not arguable that PIU is a less popular game in the US than ITG/DDR, as that's damn fact. Everything from machine totals to ease of play to new player appeal *try and find a PS2 pump mix in a store* says that.

2.) Not sure how it is in IL, but on the east coast, if you're not in NC, NJ, or So.Fla, good pump machines are few and far between, whereas I have 2 ITG dedicabs and 4 DDR machines within 15 miles. There's no argument that Pump cabinets aren't superior to Betson's SN cabinets, but of course andamiro also made ITG pads, and the roxor pads are of equal amazing quality. There's SN2 on the horizon, and a bajillion home versions of DDR for the casual player, so that doesn't mean much either.

3.) My argument was you saying that there are still songs that haven't been FPC'd or even S'd nobar by the worlds best pump players. Big deal when even with bar, there are still no FECs, let alone FFCs on some of the harder ITG single/double charts, or AAAs on some of supernova's rediculousness. If pump was all about PA in addition to combo, then of course it'd be all kinds of easier to do so with the bar than without. Things like Phantom CZ are rediculously easier to me with a bar than without, and though im one of the better nobar ITG players in the US, biase aside there'd be a completely different batch of top players if larger scale ITG players mandated a nobar rule the way PIU does.

4.) My initial point in the first place was, jump on any largescale USA 4 panel dancing game forum and ask the DDR/ITG casual players why they don't like pump. It's ALWAYS a combination of either A being too hard, B having too easy of a timing window, or C because they have no access to the game aside from SM, whereas DDR/ITG tend to appeal to all of those aspects. It's not like pump's a new game in the last couple of years or something.

SeizureGummies
11-28-2007, 08:32 PM
all i gotta say is, the list sucks.

Where's boxer from starcraft or Fatality?

It's like they list of gamer's with only half of them actual gamers.

BeaTs*
11-28-2007, 08:41 PM
things

1. again, in a game with challenges like PUMP you are gonna have a few that outshine the many. that's not the only point to USPF. there are only a few in mexico that outshine the rest of mexico. same with korea. and the those few mexicans outshine pretty much all the other countries. that's just how it is with how much the challenges have progressed. but that is still not the point of the PumpFestivals. So a joke it is not, it's called festival for a reason.

the whole team thing is new, and yeah that's a little iffy, but is being worked out.

ehh console isn't really considered in a mainly arcade game. so finding a pump mix (of which there was only 1 for US) doesn't say much. it's just not being considered

lol machine totals? again everything I said stands for RECENTLY. of course DDR has more machines out there, but pump has more WORKINGmachines and their machines are played more. at least in in Chi. ease of play is subjective. it's not pumps fault DDR made a lot of people who play it (casual players) noobs. PIU is pretty damn easy at it's easiest. But DDR did spoil a lot of players (mainly casual...but not entirely). That's why I keep saying recently/as of late. People will warm up even more to PIU than already so. Hardly anyone take DDR/ITG seriously anymore in Chi, at least compared to PIU.

2. PIU/Andamiro pads are known for being so versatile. We have several machiens here that have used the same pad for too many years, barely any repairs were needed. DDR pads die and ITG...well ITG2 got PIU's pad treatment. So many DDR and ITG have gone away, while plenty of brand new PIU machines have popped up all over the city. and that corresponds with the players too. and I see it only getting better

3. I apologize, maybe you could rephrase..I didn't quite get what you were trying to say fully. I'm not sure why Phantom CZ was brought up, and obviously bar=easier. I don't know about new batch of top players....everyone can bar and generally the best player no bar translates to best with bar (though actually it might close the gap a bit, since bar makes things easier). no-bar would just be the same batch of good players.

4. well those forum noobs can't be taken too seriously, well at least the "too hard" part. but besides that, DDR/ITG definately doesn't appeal to those points anymore than PIU, maybe some people think that, but it's honestly hardly thinking. I suppose it's where you're from though. I do know that some people complain about timing window, but that doesn't play largely enough into PIU acceptance. Again it's dumb anyway.the window is good just the way it and there are harder challenges in the game. but it's all the fault of DDR dumbing the the dumber players down (lol?).


besides all of that. DDR/ITG is long since past dying in Chi (unfortunately big cities ESPECIALLY in midwest is what counts..)

TheSix
11-28-2007, 08:43 PM
There is no BET.FoV on this list. Fail.

CrouchingTiger
11-28-2007, 08:55 PM
Yes Siiiiiiiiiiiir

http://youtube.com/watch?v=q9XEO275-GA


"HUAAAAGGGHH!!" -Balrog

:cool: Yeah, there it is. That's Daigownage right there. The first two youtube comments are perfect:

"Those 2 Balrog combos from 0:35 to 0:40 were done by God's hands."

"jesus christ!"

gridman
11-28-2007, 08:55 PM
PIU is dumb. Its all about BSing your way through a song with a combo. Wee anyone can do that. Try PAing/FAing a hard song (V^2, Summer, Bloodrush, Pandy) WHILE keeping combo on a smaller window.

BeaTs*
11-28-2007, 09:01 PM
because people can SOOOO bs their way through anothers, let alone bemara/wi-ex-doc-va/chimera/FA2-2 with a combo and not fail</sarcasm>

yep, mexico sure bs'ed their way through bemera....yep

more people should try it, really, so they can fail first 30 secs. lol


try FPCing that stuff in pump, let me know when you become the best pump player ever.

stupidness, but that's what DDR/ITG can do to people

NekoSempai
11-28-2007, 09:11 PM
lol. Guess it's all in where you're from. The majority of the EC and West coast *ESPECIALLY CALI* are all about ITG. I too was a serious Pump player at one point *top 4'd at USPF in '05* but was literally FORCED to quit the game when there became no semi decent machines within 50 miles.

Though gridman has no idea what he's talking about, R21 HAS given 4 panel players plenty of pump level stuff to deal with stamina/complexity wise. StrangeProgram/VertexBeta > Bemera CZ.

Anothers are just their own level. 10 panel balance and stamina isn't exactly duplicatable.

BeaTs*
11-28-2007, 09:19 PM
lol. Guess it's all in where you're from. The majority of the EC and West coast *ESPECIALLY CALI* are all about ITG. I too was a serious Pump player at one point *top 4'd at USPF in '05* but was literally FORCED to quit the game when there became no semi decent machines within 50 miles.

Though gridman has no idea what he's talking about, R21 HAS given 4 panel players plenty of pump level stuff to deal with stamina/complexity wise. StrangeProgram/VertexBeta > Bemera CZ.

Anothers are just their own level. 10 panel balance and stamina isn't exactly duplicatable.honestly, that's the same reason why I stopped playing DDR/ITG...no decent machines (LOL) isn't the midwest where the music/dance scene is strongest? there are many different factors as to PIU not getting up to speed in certain areas. usually it's mostly on account of dumb people (either players or arcade owners etc.)

yeah, gridman is PIU-retarded

R21 is probably one of the greatest ideas ever, and def. should become more popular with pump cabs. at least something can give 4-panel players some PIU level challenges. but obviously a fan-made file is gonna get "harder" than in game pump songs. but PIU's anothers/boss NM's are on a whole different level (not counting the jokes)

and the "easy"/freestylability part of PIU should bring it up even more in the upcoming years.

anywho, have you seen the stuff for PIU NX2? we got some kyle ward crap in there (LOL)

Einlanzer
11-28-2007, 09:36 PM
Why isn't IIDX on the list?

I'm sure this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=GjnFRI9Wayw) belongs somewhere on it.

i've yet to pass that song D:

Silks
11-28-2007, 10:47 PM
I beat the lab microscope puzzle in 7th Guest. :nunchuck: Put me on the list

The puyo, ikaruga, and tetris guys win that list hands-down. Never seen that Portal game before. Looks like it could be crazy

Infernoman
11-28-2007, 11:52 PM
only one I liked was the Ikaruga Vid...I have a hard time alone...let alone controlling 2 ships at once! best I can do is survive to the 4th boss on one credit...

GreyFoxx
11-29-2007, 12:21 AM
Liked the Ikaruga due too the fact i went thru the whole game with my shooter friend and i claim bar rape on some of those DDR players.

Grits'N'Gravy
11-29-2007, 12:27 AM
Seriously.

My fiancee could do that Puyo Puyo chain... but she is Japanese, so that's probably why.

Watching her play against her brother was like "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON" seriously, they'd get all the way to the top, then crush each other with these gigantic screen clearing combos. I mean, I am pretty good at Tetris Attack, but that game is fucking hardcore.

ckrazy
11-29-2007, 12:29 AM
Damn Ikaruga one was insane

Nando
11-29-2007, 07:07 AM
i've yet to pass that song D:
I don't know why, but I always found it funny when someone is raping, and then their bar gets fucked so haaaarrrrd.
If only to look at their faces.

eso
11-29-2007, 11:28 AM
I would say Pump get enough recognition as is. What with WPF and USPF and teams from all over the country getting serious. DDR and ITG are rather dead compared to PIU as of late...we get a new mix every year too.

The timing window is different in different mixes of pump. And it definately does not make or break PIU's recognition. Even with timing difficulty along the lines of ITG/DDR, all that shit has been passed. PIU still had yet to see the hardest shit passed with an S no bar etc. It's more about pushing the limits of what a single person can do (like Final Audition 2-2 [A]). The timing window in place is good enough for that aspect. More casual gamers are getting into it, and the serious players are always rewarded with our constant new mixes and challenges. Pump is living the "dance" game dream at the moment.

higher combo being better than perfects makes sense to me. It's not like perfects count for nothing anyway, obviously a higher combo and more perfects counts for something. It is still more of a challenge to Full Perfect Combo the hard stuff in pump with the larger timing window (still has not been done for the anothers and boss songs, NM, no bar) then to get max perfects in ITG/DDR


A little off-topic but I want to say that judging in USPF for Freestyle division is pure shit. The judges are not qualified; they don't know how to dance, they can't recognize good dancing, and adhere to ridiculous rubrics set by Andamiro. I would know because I got shafted in USPF 2006. The judges decided that 2 guys dressed up as a cowboy and a samurai who just step on the pad and land horribly on their knees makes a better performance than me.


Anyways, like someone in here said already, if you want to see godly in terms of dance-simulation games, look no further than PIU NM and CZ. DDR pales in comparison.

BeaTs*
11-29-2007, 11:50 AM
A little off-topic but I want to say that judging in USPF for Freestyle division is pure shit. The judges are not qualified; they don't know how to dance, they can't recognize good dancing, and adhere to ridiculous rubrics set by Andamiro. I would know because I got shafted in USPF 2006. The judges decided that 2 guys dressed up as a cowboy and a samurai who just step on the pad and land horribly on their knees makes a better performance than me.well for one that's all subjective. and you shouldn't "know how to dance" to recognize a good routing or not. there is a method they followed by andamiro, so be it. but really, I'd like to see your performance and the sam/cowboy performance. If your routing was geniunely good/interesting/original I would say you wouldn't have had this problem...but iunno. you got any vids?

Rico!
11-29-2007, 12:03 PM
Can someone explain the difference between PIU and DDR? (besides the diagonals)

BeaTs*
11-29-2007, 12:06 PM
Can someone explain the difference between PIU and DDR? (besides the diagonals)
what exactly you wanna know, there's a lot of differences

Rico!
11-29-2007, 12:21 PM
How does it involve freestyling? what is an FPC?

BeaTs*
11-29-2007, 12:31 PM
How does it involve freestyling? what is an FPC?
well PIU is very freestyle friendly, and the charts lend themselves to freestyle. PIU step-charts are generally very good and creative, but they also have actual choreagraphers making some charts. Also the bigger timing window is there for freestyles. PIU was essentially a freestyle game, with some stepping thrown in. Now it is a great mix of both. excellent freestyle songs/charts and excellent step songs/charts.

also the 5 arrows lend it self more to actual dancing. DDR's four pad is counter-intuitive and unnatural in that sense. Some latin dances have steps that follow the PIU pad's formation. Honestly, once you get the hang of PIU's arrows, it feels so much more natural (though it may take longer if you played DDR b4hand)

FPC=Full Perfect Combo. Getting all perfects (which would also be a full combo)

Gasp
11-29-2007, 12:38 PM
too many acronyms.

NekoSempai
11-29-2007, 03:06 PM
A little off-topic but I want to say that judging in USPF for Freestyle division is pure shit. The judges are not qualified; they don't know how to dance, they can't recognize good dancing, and adhere to ridiculous rubrics set by Andamiro. I would know because I got shafted in USPF 2006. The judges decided that 2 guys dressed up as a cowboy and a samurai who just step on the pad and land horribly on their knees makes a better performance than me.


Anyways, like someone in here said already, if you want to see godly in terms of dance-simulation games, look no further than PIU NM and CZ. DDR pales in comparison.

I'll agree to that. Smidgit is basically guarenteed to win every PIU freestyle comp ever within the states. Why? Because he's out US Andamiro rep and the judges for USPF is made of members of the online community >.>.

Gawd, I remember 05, where his subpar watch the screen, throw a BBOY move in every 10 seconds routine somehow beat Bruce Leroy's AMAZINGLY HILARIOUS AND UNIQUE routine. Half the audience was outraged. Hell, even the third place one was better.


...Somehow Smid has managed to be our WPF FS rep every year WPF has existed. :lame:


...Though, no way would I agree that PIU feels more 'natural' than 4 panel. Though yes, it's definitely a closer form of actual dancing, the body contortions necessary for high level play should never feel natural to anyone lol >.>.

BeaTs*
11-29-2007, 03:11 PM
lol I said pad formation feels more natural, not the few certain patterns...even then, those crossovers and twists feel natural still to me...harder at higher levels..but still all right.

everytime I get back on a 4-panel after getting into pump it's like....ugh...how can people play on this?

Richter85
11-30-2007, 05:51 AM
The mario one should be withdrawn. Thats a cool ass vid and it probably inspired all the other quick beat-um's but the vid wasn't done in real time! And he even admitted to it.

One man, two sticks, one mental video

anyone else reminded of 2 girls 1 cup?

cain[e]
11-30-2007, 07:42 AM
man i wreck people in beanmachine like that all the time...I may not clear my whole screen , but the opposition is down afer like a 4 or 5 combo, sometimes after a three if that suck as much as that ai did.

orochizoolander
11-30-2007, 09:49 AM
The portal and ikaruga blew me away:looney:




Dr. Robotniks mean bean machine pwns puyopop anyday that wasn't anywhere near godlike i would beat him...then again i been playing the game almost everyday since it cameout.