Eating right

[#reload]

i heard on the news that trans fat and sodium are doing people in lately, so i was wondering what i should be eating/avoiding to maintain a semi-healthy life.

[Figcoinc]

Do not eat a lot of fast food. Actually make fast food a super rare thing.

Take vitamins and exercise a little.

Replace soda with juice and lots of water.

[JAMSMASTERP]

Eat stuff that is good for you. Don't eat bad stuff. Problem solved.

[Donut223]

Do not eat a lot of fast food. Actually make fast food a super rare thing.

Take vitamins and exercise a little.

Replace soda with juice and lots of water.

What about Gatorade? :wonder:

[Taito]

The Fountain of Youth is the fucking ocean, not some hidden treasure. Drink lots of water every day instead of sugar-loaded soft drinks, you'll look and feel 100x better.

[Oroman]

Green tea or black tea can be a good alternative to soda. Try to avoid processed foods.

[Figcoinc]

What about Gatorade? :wonder:

Gatorade is actually bad for you if you are not exercising. If you exercise then your good but if not a lot of the sodium inside of it overall is bad. Might as well drink a soda.

[xsonicc]

Gatorade is actually bad for you if you are not exercising. If you exercise then your good but if not a lot of the sodium inside of it overall is bad. Might as well drink a soda.

quoted for TRUTH

[The_Trigger]

Amen to water. I've cut back on soda a LOT and my skin looks better and I've got a lot more energy than I used to.

[Hoonyo]

it's too hard to avoid sodium. if i ate six meals a day, and only ate cheerios, i'd still have an intake of +1800mg sodium. shit is too hard to avoid.

[epp1e]

Eat healthy shit & if you can, don't eat 3 big meals in a day. Once again, if you can, spread it out into a couple much smaller meals - it will help your metabolism.

[Utsusemi]

What about Gatorade? :wonder:

It can be... It's also terrible for your teeth.

[The Fireboy]

Yeah, almost everything is pretty packed with sodium nowadays. Best bet, when shopping look for food advertised as 'low sodium' as it means i packs less then 300mg of sodium (I think).

But yeah, if you can't lower your sodium by that much, drink plenty of water as it'll dilute the sodium in your body, plus Garlic oil can help too since it thins your blood to reduce your blood pressure which is what really hurts your health.

Those combined if you actually keep updated with it, you should notice your blood pressure and a number of other things get better within a few months or less.

[Alzarath]

Stay away from TV dinners.

[Donut223]

Gatorade is actually bad for you if you are not exercising. If you exercise then your good but if not a lot of the sodium inside of it overall is bad. Might as well drink a soda.

Good thing i work out every morning O_O, but thanks i'll take that into consideration now ^

[Rod Driguez]

Do not eat a lot of fast food. Actually make fast food a super rare thing.

Take vitamins and exercise a little.

Replace soda with juice and lots of water.

This sounds like pretty good advice to me - although sometimes it seems hard to avoid fast food as much as you probably should. At least for me.

All I would add is to try to get your vitamins/minerals from food when you can. I try to use pill vitamins sparingly, not as a total solution. Also, ease back on the alcohol too while you're trading soda for water.


Those are simple things everybody can do without too much lifestyle alteration.

[The Fireboy]

honestly if you want a good alternative to Gatorade you should try this. Get a glass of water, 1 lemon and some raw honey (find it at a healthfood store) and get the juice from the lemon and about 2-3 tablespoons of the honey..there you go, some vitamins and the boost to help recover from your work out

Only reason Gatorade is 'good' is because the sodium keeps you thirsty so you keep drinking. I personally hate Gatorade after drinking the mixture above for a few weeks.

[True Grave]

Do not eat a lot of fast food. Actually make fast food a super rare thing.

Take vitamins and exercise a little.

Replace soda with juice and lots of water.

Yeah not eating fastfood should be common sense, plus it appears to be getting pretty expensive lately, so it is not worth it.

Exercise is good. Not only does it help your health, but it does make one feel better about themselves after. I recommend doing a little everyday, as opposed to exercising for 4 hours one day and taking the rest of the week/month off. Consistency is KEY.

As for soda, it is okay as long as its diet in my opinion. While there may or may not be dangers too with diet soda, it is a hell of a lot better than drinking regular.

What about Gatorade? :wonder:

That is not much better, if any, than regular soda. Nothing but sugar on top of sugar!

Only for those who are VERY active, but the average person should stay the hell away.

[gemdoom]

your only supposed to drink a small cup of gatorade after a workout or something . not the whole bottle

[True Grave]

your only supposed to drink a small cup of gatorade after a workout or something . not the whole bottle

Better yet, don't drink any. Stick to water or something.

Gatorade is like sugar-water. I don't see how it would benefit anyone.



~TG, it tastes great though

[goodm0urning]

If you're going to be spending extended lengths of time out in the hot sun, Gatorade is going to be much better for you than water.

[wez]

It can be... It's also terrible for your teeth.

what? Is this true?:confused:

[Mr.Noodle]

Don't forget your fruits and vegetables :smile:. Make sure you're not deficient of any nuitrients or trouble coming your way. If you eat a good variety of food, then you should be ok.

[Plutoburn]

I think I've stopped wanting eating fast food except subs for over 6 years now. (only eat fast food when the alternative is starving).

It really depends on your level of tolerance... I've gone months with eating lean grilled meats with no sauce + boiled or raw veggie with no sauce + some kind of tofu + multi-grain staples. So easy to prep and very healthy, but it's expensive because unless you buy good quality ingredients, you can't hide the bad quality with seasoning.

[igotalottastuff]

Quit eating those cookie dough, they contain a lot of trans fat. Also quit using mayonnaise, the fat content in that is astronomical.

[Infested Jester]

i heard on the news that trans fat and sodium are doing people in lately, so i was wondering what i should be eating/avoiding to maintain a semi-healthy life.

Probably posted, but no fast foods, and nothing with High Fructose Corn Syrup. Eliminating those 2 things alone will probably add 10 years to your life.

[CrouchingTiger]

Most things have already been mentioned. Keep fast food to a minimum. Eat fruits and veggies. Take a multivitamin. Try and stay away from soft drinks. Eat at least three meals a day. However many you eat, don't skip breakfast. It really is the most important meal of the day. A good breakfast gets your metabolism going. You'll often find that you are hungrier for lunch if you eat breakfast. Sometimes when I skip breakfast, I find that I'm not too hungry for lunch.

Although eating a lot of fast food will break the bank, don't be fooled into thinking that eating right is cheap. If you're just eating right for the sake of eating right, it may be cheap, sure. But if you are eating right to compliment a work-out routine and put on mass, this means you'll be eating A LOT. Eating right means the food you eat will contain less fat. Less fat means less calories. Less calories means you need to eat MORE "right" food than you usually would to reach your caloric goals. You'll find that your grocery bills are more expensive than they used to be.

As for a post work-out snack-a-roo, grab a graham cracker with some honey on it. Delicious and good for you!

[Rhio2k]

what? Is this true?:confused:

Yup. I have a friend who always drank gatoraid since I first met him cuz all his sports idols were pushing the stuff, so he thought it would help him achieve his hoop dream. Now his teeth are fuckin' crumbling and his dentist has him on HEAVY calcium supplements.

[gemdoom]

when i hear small portions throughout the day what would you eat? i usually eat a banana or a slice pof whole wheat bread when i work but what else?

[CrouchingTiger]

Yup. I have a friend who always drank gatoraid since I first met him cuz all his sports idols were pushing the stuff, so he thought it would help him achieve his hoop dream. Now his teeth are fuckin' crumbling and his dentist has him on HEAVY calcium supplements.

I could be wrong, but I doubt this was attributed to gatorade. At least not SOLELY to gatorade. His diet was likely lacking in some other area, or a combination of areas, that caused the problems with his teeth.

I for example could chug gatorade all day every day, but the fact that I also drink milk every day means my calcium levels are probably pretty good.

[Taito]

If you're going to be spending extended lengths of time out in the hot sun, Gatorade is going to be much better for you than water.
Yeah, only strenuous conditions would justify drinking an overload of sugar and sodium.

[Monte]

gatorade has as much sugar as soda. gatorade is designed for extended periods of physical activity not an hour in the gym. propel is all people need at most.

[CrouchingTiger]

I'll tell you one thing. I've worked construction. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING beats a cold gatorade out there in the heat. That first swallow of gatorade is better than sex, I promise you that.

Oh and gatorade + a cheek full of sunflower seads? OMG. O.M.G.

[True Grave]

Probably posted, but no fast foods, and nothing with High Fructose Corn Syrup. Eliminating those 2 things alone will probably add 10 years to your life.

I've heard corn syrup in known to INCREASE appetite. I wonder why it is even used, since it has been said to be not as sweet as genuine sugar and more expensive to make.

Yet its still used in EVERYTHING!

Possible conspiracy to keep Americans fat?

[Taito]

I've heard corn syrup in known to INCREASE appetite. I wonder why it is even used, since it has been said to be not as sweet as genuine sugar and more expensive to make.
HFCS is definitely cheaper for locations like USA to produce than cane sugar (and other alternatives like Stevia)

[Infested Jester]

I've heard corn syrup in known to INCREASE appetite. I wonder why it is even used, since it has been said to be not as sweet as genuine sugar and more expensive to make.

I won't argue that it makes food "taste" better, but at the same time it will fuck up everything else in your body.

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[Daddyneptune]

If I wasn't so broke all the time I'd eat a little better but sometimes when I'm in a rush to work and I'm hungry as hell that damn McDonalds catches me.
I really stay away from Soda,fried foods and sodium as much as possible.

[Netology]

I think this is an important topic, since diet plays a huge part in relation to personal health.

People talking about cutting out fast food. Yep. If you are still at the stage where you haven't cut out fast food, you are in trouble

Watch these videos when you have time.

Food as medicine 1 (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8841234327210711547&q=food+as+medicine&total=804&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4)
Food as medicine 2 (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7798117152905143532&q=food+as+medicine&total=804&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)

Basically, many illnesses are caused by inflammation. And inflammation is perpetuated by certain deficiencies and excesses in your diet.

Insulin is what you should keep down. This means cutting out refined carbohydrates, and simple sugars. Reduce your bread/pastry/wheat intake. Reduce your soda pop, sugary drink intake, junk food intake.

Eat wide variety of fruits, not necessarily in large quantities. Just different fruits with different pigments. Same for vegetables, dark green ones are great.

Reduce intake of dairy milk.

Try to substitute normal meat/eggs that are grain fed in concentration camps, with free-range grass fed organic ones.

Carbs/Sugar is what makes you gain wait, not fat.

Saturated fat isn't as bad for you as you hear. But trans-fats are.
Polyunsaturated fats like the omegas, are bad but only in excessive imbalanced ratios.
Omega 6 : Omega 3
should be 1 : 1
But in the West its like 20 : 1
which is horrible.

watch the video, at first he talks about cancer but half way through and in the second one he talks about specific foods and diet changes that will help everyone.

[NegroNinja]

If I wasn't so broke all the time I'd eat a little better but sometimes when I'm in a rush to work and I'm hungry as hell that damn McDonalds catches me.
I really stay away from Soda,fried foods and sodium as much as possible.

Yeah healthy food is such a fucking rip and hard to find unless you're in a financial district or something, and I live in SF, where there should be plenty of these places, but they all exist in areas that are a bitch and a half to get to and/or only convenient only for rich people.

I try to eat a lot of brown rice though whenever I'm at home. Lots of no skin chicken, not so much beef. I've got a bit to go before I'm back down to the weight I was at when I was playing Rugby but it's coming along.

[matrix9280]

I eat whatever I want. That's what's right for me. It's all about the moderation. When I'm full I stop eating it's that simple. All these scare tactics like"don't eat this or you'll die" or "this man-made poison is destroying the human race" is just foolishness. Usually to get somebody to buy a book or tape or something like that.

[Netology]

I eat whatever I want. That's what's right for me. It's all about the moderation. When I'm full I stop eating it's that simple. All these scare tactics like"don't eat this or you'll die" or "this man-made poison is destroying the human race" is just foolishness. Usually to get somebody to buy a book or tape or something like that.



What you eat is up to you man. You can base it on whatever you like, but some people have a higher standard or different criteria for what they eat.

It should scare people that the leading causes of death in the western world are totally preventable chronic diseases that depend on life-style/diet, like heart disease, malignant neoplasms, diabetes, etc.

Eating in moderation is not as important as what you eat.

[matrix9280]

Whatever you say Morgan.

[Oroman]

Probably posted, but no fast foods, and nothing with High Fructose Corn Syrup. Eliminating those 2 things alone will probably add 10 years to your life.

Fuck I wish that was possible but High Fructose Corn Syrup is in everything. It's virtually impossible to avoid. The only way I can think of is getting organic food only, if you do that it's gonna be a very expensive grocery list.

[Netology]

Fuck I wish that was possible but High Fructose Corn Syrup is in everything. It's virtually impossible to avoid. The only way I can think of is getting organic food only, if you do that it's gonna be a very expensive grocery list.

its not in everything, what do you eat a lot of that has it?

[Taito]

I eat whatever I want. That's what's right for me. It's all about the moderation. When I'm full I stop eating it's that simple. All these scare tactics like"don't eat this or you'll die" or "this man-made poison is destroying the human race" is just foolishness. Usually to get somebody to buy a book or tape or something like that.
Nothing's guaranteed in life.. I could go outside right now and get smashed by a bus, or have a family emergency that will burn up all my savings.. then I'd suddenly stop giving a shit about eating right.. but as a long term investment, the less you take care of yourself (exercising and watching the bullshit you eat), the sooner you put yourself at the mercy of the health care system.. spending your assets for the timely and proper medical treatment you may or may not get.

[rcaido]

If your fat don't eat so much cake!

I say eat whatever the fuck you want to eat...If taste good to you eat it...

[Netology]

If your fat don't eat so much cake!

I say eat whatever the fuck you want to eat...If taste good to you eat it...



or if it just looks edible, eat it.


hell, if it can fit in your mouth PUT IT IN!

[Pablo_the_Mex]

The problem is some people have shitty metabolisms. I know guys with six packs that don't work out. I know some ugly fat bitches that only eat organic foods. We are all built differently.

Just go run some laps.

[Netology]

The problem is some people have shitty metabolisms. I know guys with six packs that don't work out. I know some ugly fat bitches that only eat organic foods. We are all built differently.

Just go run some laps.


Metabolism is also regulated and modified by how you eat and your life style, so if theirs is shitty, its partially their fault not strictly genetics.

Anyone who has low body fat will see their six pack, doesn't mean they are healthy, just means they are skinny.

Just cause they eat organic doesn't mean anything really...if they are eating organic cookies, organic cereal and organic bread all day, then ya, which contribute to more calories being stored than burned they are gonna get fat.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

Metabolism is also regulated and modified by how you eat and your life style, so if theirs is shitty, its partially their fault not strictly genetics.

Anyone who has low body fat will see their six pack, doesn't mean they are healthy, just means they are skinny.

Just cause they eat organic doesn't mean anything really...if they are eating organic cookies, organic cereal and organic bread all day, then ya, which contribute to more calories being stored than burned they are gonna get fat.

I should have clarified, in both situations neither works out. Some people are just built like freaks, others are not so lucky. Of course lifestyle influences what kind of shape your body is in, that does not change the fact that for some people getting in shape/ maintaining their shape is never clearly defined. What works for one person may not work for others.

[Netology]

I should have clarified, in both situations neither works out. Some people are just built like freaks, others are not so lucky. Of course lifestyle influences what kind of shape your body is in, that does not change the fact that for some people getting in shape/ maintaining their shape is never clearly defined. What works for one person may not work for others.


Well you are talking about extremes...


Yes there are guys who are genetic freaks, who get a six pack just by bending down to pick stuff up and huge biceps from taking out the garbage: but they are few and far between. And there are chicks who are gonna get fat even when they eat like a bird, but they usually have some underlying problem, like a thyroid condition or something.

This doesn't negate the fact that BOTH will benefit from proper nutrition and exercise. Of course some people are different and will require tweaking of their diets, like if they are allergic to some foods or have intolerances...but generally speaking, the shit that is bad for most people is bad even for genetic freaks.

[DanSC]

are foods that require lots of microwave heating healthy? cause i eat tv dinner everyday at work..

[Netology]

are foods that require lots of microwave heating healthy? cause i eat tv dinner everyday at work..



No. You should pre-cook some good food and just store it in your fridge, and then eat it at work.

I take a container of [brown rice + meat + veggies] to work, you can change the meat and veggies when you get bored.

Fuck TV dinners.

[Kane Blueriver]

Any suggestions for a healthy but energetic breakfast? After all, it's the most important meal of the day. I live in the one of the countries where most bread is consumed per capita. So, should I eat some healthier classes of bread, or leave it entirely? also, what should I eat it with? I've heard that avocado is a very healthy option.

[Red_venom]

are foods that require lots of microwave heating healthy? cause i eat tv dinner everyday at work..

Even the "healthy" ones are pretty much horrible and just having rice + steamed veggies and meat in a tupperware thing will be much more healthy and cheaper if you prepare a few days worth at a time.

[Rod Driguez]

TV dinners = mad salt, preservatives and other random garbage. I don't go far out of my way for organic foods... but TV dinners are like the ultimate anti-organic food.

It takes a whole lot for that TV dinner to go from assembly line to refrigerated 18-wheeler to store cooler to YOUR freezer (for God knows how long) to your microwave to eventually your stomach and body system and still make it intact as viable food. I can barely stand frozen pizza nowadays.


Eggs are great breakfast food, if you like them. Oatmeal is can't-lose, if you like it. Both can be fairly big ifs, but they are worth their spot if you choose to go with them. I like most any breakfast food in general and enjoy in moderation, ignoring the (reputed) negatives where applicable.

[Netology]

Any suggestions for a healthy but energetic breakfast? After all, it's the most important meal of the day. I live in the one of the countries where most bread is consumed per capita. So, should I eat some healthier classes of bread, or leave it entirely? also, what should I eat it with? I've heard that avocado is a very healthy option.

Leave it entirely, the ones that are good for you are somewhat expensive.
If you have to eat bread, get the purely Sprouted kind, with no flour.
Or get sourdough bread, since its fermented and you benefit from the enzymes.

But ya, reduce your bread intake overall.

My breakfast is like usually:

Oat meal + Rice Milk
Banana
Protein Shake


Oat Meal has a low glycemic index, breaks down slowly - so it won't give you an insulin spike. Great source of fiber, and plenty of calories for energy.

[Kane Blueriver]

Many thanks for the input, Netology, I'd like to comment a bit about it: That breakfast is for someone who excercises regularly, isn't it? I'm clearly overweight, at 5'5'' (that how it's spelled in ft./inches, or is it with '' and then with '?) and 155 lbs., and unfortunately, I'm not strong-willed enough to start doing excercise (be it weights or cardio) anytime soon, so the protein shake would be out of the question. I also dislike oatmeal, and rice milk is not available here. I could still do the banana, though; any other suggestions for breakfast?

Red_venom: I could do the eggs. Any special way to do them? The usual here are sunnyside up and scrambled with bread; what are the ifs of eggs?

[Netology]

Many thanks for the input, Netology, I'd like to comment a bit about it: That breakfast is for someone who excercises regularly, isn't it? I'm clearly overweight, at 5'5'' (that how it's spelled in ft./inches, or is it with '' and then with '?) and 155 lbs., and unfortunately, I'm not strong-willed enough to start doing excercise (be it weights or cardio) anytime soon, so the protein shake would be out of the question. I also dislike oatmeal, and rice milk is not available here. I could still do the banana, though; any other suggestions for breakfast?

If you are trying to lose some weight without doing exercise, it would be wise to reduce the amount of calories you eat during the day, by significantly reducing your intake of carbohydrates and sugars.

A decent breakfast could be something like:

few eggs + salad + cheese + fruit

and maybe a low sugar drink with good variety of nutrients
(even fruit juice isn't very good, too much sugar, get a vegetable drink)

you can replace the eggs with some sort of meat, like chicken breast or tuna or beef.

Don't worry about fat content, except Trans-fats. You dont want anything with Trans-fat in it.

I'm glad you are interested in improving your diet! But it takes more will-power to eat right every meal of the day, than exercising for 45 minutes 3 times a week.
:china:

[Kane Blueriver]

I know that... it's just that I don't have enough will-power, don't know how to fix that and it's weighing heavily on my life right now. But let's get to business. I'm trying to leave sugars completely, so we're ok on that. about vegetable drinks... I think that it would be hard to find something like that here. Is it any different from just eating the salad? I consume tomato in high quantities (2 daily, at lunch), and also avocado, lettuce, cabbage and celery when available, but I can't stand other vegetables, even less when boiled/cooked. Of fruits, I mainly eat apples and bananas, and regular meals go usually with boiled potatoes, rice or noodles. The usual day goes like (this is a classic example of regular meals here in my country):

Breakfast (anywhere from 6AM-10AM, depending on when you wake up): 1 cup of Tea/Coffee/Chccolate Milk + 1 Bread w/Butter or Milk Candy (wiki for "Dulce de Leche", it's damn delicious) or Avocado, whatever it's available, but 90% of the time it's butter.

Lunch (main meal, 12PM-3PM): In my case, any combination of white rice/(mashed/boiled/fried)potato/noodles with some kind of meat, beef, chicken breast (I hate legs), salad (usually 2 tomatoes or a combination of avocado/lettuce or avocado/celery), and for dessert, a fruit or ice cream, usually in my case, a banana with some palm honey (not bee honey, it's a special palm savia that is boiled until it has a texture and color that's very similar to bee honey).

Dinner (5-7PM): Same as breakfast.

Some people have supper (around 9PM), we don't. It's usually what was left from lunch.

As you can see, here we have some pretty unhealthy eating habits, and that's not counting the days when you have cravings for chocolate (trying to abandon it, it's like a drug... oh wait, it IS a drug) or when you go celebrate something with a Gigas Sandwich (the usual is the "Italian (instert your fav. class of meat here), which consist in that meat, tomato, avocado, and mayo (hence the italian), weighing at about 1lb, or mid-day or late-night snacks. At least I don't smoke or drink alcohol, or I would be totally wasted by now, and I'm trying to drink only pure water, which I have done but not in the required quantities.

Basically, there's always somebody that's in a worse condition than you =P. I consider myself pretty much in the rock's bottom when referring to eating habits. Hope all readers enjoyed how different can eating habits be around the world :D.

[CrouchingTiger]

If you don't have the will-power, you won't be eating right for long. Not trying to discourage you, but I think you'll find this to be true down the line.

Eating right is much harder than working out heh.

As for weight-loss, there's a pretty easy rule of thumb to remember. Excercise to lose weight, eat right to keep it off. Although you CAN do just one or the other, you'll get MUCH better results if you do both. They go hand in hand.

Netology why did you say to reduce milk intake?

[Netology]

I know that... it's just that I don't have enough will-power, don't know how to fix that and it's weighing heavily on my life right now.

Just do it, don't think about it. :nunchuck:


I'm trying to leave sugars completely, so we're ok on that. about vegetable drinks... I think that it would be hard to find something like that here. Is it any different from just eating the salad? I consume tomato in high quantities (2 daily, at lunch), and also avocado, lettuce, cabbage and celery when available, but I can't stand other vegetables, even less when boiled/cooked. Of fruits, I mainly eat apples and bananas, and regular meals go usually with boiled potatoes, rice or noodles. The usual day goes like (this is a classic example of regular meals here in my country):

Breakfast (anywhere from 6AM-10AM, depending on when you wake up): 1 cup of Tea/Coffee/Chccolate Milk + 1 Bread w/Butter or Milk Candy (wiki for "Dulce de Leche", it's damn delicious) or Avocado, whatever it's available, but 90% of the time it's butter.

Lunch (main meal, 12PM-3PM): In my case, any combination of white rice/(mashed/boiled/fried)potato/noodles with some kind of meat, beef, chicken breast (I hate legs), salad (usually 2 tomatoes or a combination of avocado/lettuce or avocado/celery), and for dessert, a fruit or ice cream, usually in my case, a banana with some palm honey (not bee honey, it's a special palm savia that is boiled until it has a texture and color that's very similar to bee honey).

Dinner (5-7PM): Same as breakfast.

Some people have supper (around 9PM), we don't. It's usually what was left from lunch.

As you can see, here we have some pretty unhealthy eating habits, and that's not counting the days when you have cravings for chocolate (trying to abandon it, it's like a drug... oh wait, it IS a drug) or when you go celebrate something with a Gigas Sandwich (the usual is the "Italian (instert your fav. class of meat here), which consist in that meat, tomato, avocado, and mayo (hence the italian), weighing at about 1lb, or mid-day or late-night snacks. At least I don't smoke or drink alcohol, or I would be totally wasted by now, and I'm trying to drink only pure water, which I have done but not in the required quantities.

Basically, there's always somebody that's in a worse condition than you =P. I consider myself pretty much in the rock's bottom when referring to eating habits. Hope all readers enjoyed how different can eating habits be around the world :D.


Just make sure to cut out or reduce the honey, ice cream, the Dulce de Leche, chocolate etc. you know.

When you eat white rice, noodles and potatoes, it is sort of like eating that amount of sugar. Because thats what your body turns them into and digests them as.

Switch your white rice to brown rice, and take noodles out, and reduce potatoes.

When you get sugar cravings eat natural peanut butter, or something thats fatty that you like. You want your body to burn fat as energy, not sugar/carbs.

[CrouchingTiger]

Hey Netology why did you say to reduce milk intake?

[Netology]

If you don't have the will-power, you won't be eating right for long. Not trying to discourage you, but I think you'll find this to be true down the line.

Eating right is much harder than working out heh.

As for weight-loss, there's a pretty easy rule of thumb to remember. Excercise to lose weight, eat right to keep it off. Although you CAN do just one or the other, you'll get MUCH better results if you do both. They go hand in hand.

Netology why did you say to reduce milk intake?


Because its bad for you.
I'm referring to the normal pasteurized homogenized milk you buy in stores. Which I wouldn't even call milk.

Its complicated, but the process they use to create this milk is bad from the beginning. From how they feed and modify their animals, to how they extract it, to how they pasteurize it and strip away its nutrients and then homogenize it and inject it with synthetic chemicals.

Milk has been linked with lots of illnesses lately, including acne, and im not a fan of acne.

On the other hand, Raw milk, normal cow milk, is really good for you, but its illegal to buy it here in Canada and in most states in the US....:crybaby:

[CrouchingTiger]

Oh, meh. A lot of otherwise healthy foods these days have been "dumbed down" through preservation and sanitation and whatever other processes that end up making it worse nutritionally.

I'm not giving up milk. =p

[Netology]

Oh, meh. A lot of otherwise healthy foods these days have been "dumbed down" through preservation and sanitation and whatever other processes that end up making it worse nutritionally.

I'm not giving up milk. =p



Lol.

I totally understated it, but if you do some research and look at the biochemistry that commercial milk plays in your body, its pretty bad shit.

Just some examples, cows are fed low quality grains and soy-based feeds, and then pumped with steroids so they produce three times more milk than normal, some of them have utters so big they drag on the ground. Naturally their immune systems get fucked up cause they are full of dioxins and carcinogenic compounds so they are then given high doses of anti-biotics to purify all the puss thats going into your milk.:woot:

Then their milk is pasteurized so that all valuable enzymes are destroyed, GG to phosphatase for the assimilation of calcium, ya you get some low quality calcium in milk but you won't be able to assimilate it properly. Lol. Same goes for the lactose and galactose. Which then cause problems for digestion and the pancreas since all the valuable enzymes are gone you just get a bunch of shit you have to digest and no tools available....

Also its high in phosphorous which also accelerates calcium excretion from the blood through the kidneys, which is detrimental for bones/teeth...

Then theres Bovine Growth Hormone which induces excessive amount of IGF-1 production in milk, which you don't want, but will end up drinking which will aggravate inflammatory problems and even certain cancers, colon and breast.

Then theres the homogenization process, which is equally bad, things like fat globules form around xanthine oxidase, trapping it in and then allowing transmision into your blood stream, and theres been evidence that this enzyme is associated with increased risk of heart disease.

Its also got refined sugar in it, which is useless except for making you fat and unhealthy.

But if you aren't into nutrition then, ya, just brush it off.

[DropOff]

Personally I think it's nearly impossible for someone to go from "eating like an average North American" to eating right with an instant transition.

I've cut non-diet soft drinks out of my eating habits, I've switched from juice to water in most situations, don't go back for seconds anymore and over all have just generally been giving myself smaller portions.

But by no means is my Diet perfect, I work in the mall so mall food is what I have for lunch most days. But switching to sugar-free and diet drinks seems to be helping a lot. For the most part I'd say stop driving everywhere if you do.

You'll save on gas money, and it's a great way to stay in shape [/Guy who rides 10 speed everywhere]

[Fudd]

This sounds like pretty good advice to me - although sometimes it seems hard to avoid fast food as much as you probably should. At least for me.

All I would add is to try to get your vitamins/minerals from food when you can. I try to use pill vitamins sparingly, not as a total solution. Also, ease back on the alcohol too while you're trading soda for water.


Those are simple things everybody can do without too much lifestyle alteration.

Agreed, vitamin supplements should only be taken if you normally have trouble absorbing them from your normal diet (i.e. if you're old).

And yep, stay the fuck away from processed foods as much as you can. You definitely need sodium to live, but not a great deal of it.

[Infested Jester]

After reading some of these posts I just wanted to add that eating healthy is not as expensive as you think. Preparing a large quanity of something for dinner, then using it as your lunch and snack the day after is one way of saving right there. Also, you don't have to buy things that say "organic" for them to not be full of chemicals. They throw that word around a lot now and jack up prices for people who don't know any better, at least in a common supermarket like A&P or Pathmark.

Also :rofl: at the "I eat whatever I want and stop when I'm full to be healthy" remark.

Hey, I just ate a cup of Crisco, and I'm not full!!! Yep, not gonna gain weight or be unhealthy now.

[Striderhyru05]

Ive lost 17 lb so far in 2 months, Ill drink a small cup of soda maybe once a week, the taste starts to get disgusting after you start to drink a lot of water. You can actually taste all that sugar thats put into it. Ive been eating smaller portions of dinner and getting the gym 3 times a week for some weight lifting and running. The big thing is water though! lots of it.

Learn to have self control, there are going to be nights when your buddies go out for a late night fast food run and your going to be hungry, dont give in.

[Deus]

netology is killin this thread with good info

a lot of you people don't know a fuckin thing about nutrition

[Double Reppuken]

Ive lost 17 lb so far in 2 months, Ill drink a small cup of soda maybe once a week, the taste starts to get disgusting after you start to drink a lot of water. You can actually taste all that sugar thats put into it. Ive been eating smaller portions of dinner and getting the gym 3 times a week for some weight lifting and running. The big thing is water though! lots of it.

Learn to have self control, there are going to be nights when your buddies go out for a late night fast food run and your going to be hungry, dont give in.
That depends, too, i guess. I have buddies that ask me to go with them drinking and usually it starts with us eating at places like hooters or something similar. They know i've cut a lot of the shit i used to eat, and don't eat as big portions, so if a big meal shows up in front of me, they'll say something like "You'd better not eat the whole thing," and i'll know to get a box or something so i portion it out ahead of time. Anal? Maybe, but I'm losing weight so meh.

I have to say though, I agree with DropOff mostly 'cause it sounds like we both did the same - replacing sugar drinks with water; not getting seconds. On my end, my family loves to cook Mexican/Salvadorean foods, so it was a lot harder at the start, especially with Chorizo and tamales which can be delicious, but basically kill any kind of diet. But steadily meals went from 2 tamales and some rice turned into a single tamal with maybe a cup of rice, half a plate of beans turned into a cup with other stuff like a salad or some kind of pasta, and actually measuring out how much chorizo to use rather than just grabbing a big ol' glob and slamming it on the pan.

Best advice i can give, "Eat 'til you're not hungry, not 'til you're full" and that helps a great deal with reducing the amount you eat. But drinking water is awesome, you can practically OD on the stuff if you want, as opposed to drinking sodas and getting freaked out about how much is "okay"

[CrouchingTiger]

But if you aren't into nutrition then, ya, just brush it off.

I got really into nutrition a couple of years ago (I mean REALLY into it. I wrote a Java program that calculated my daily caloric intake lol), but I burnt out on it after about five months. All these things you're saying sound like the stuff I was saying and/or reading about back then, but I've forgotten much of it now. My problem was the fact that I EASILY tire of food after too much, and I simply didn't have enough variety when I was eating right. Salads and tuna and olive oil in my orange juice (etc) got old after a while heh.

I still eat healthier than the average American, but I'm not strict about it. I'm doing fine though. I always pass health checkups with flying colors. Perfect blood pressure, cholesterol, heart rate, etc etc.

I'm 5'10" and 140lbs. I just want to gain about 20 pounds and sit at 160. That's my weight goal. I'm not working to achieve that at the moment though.

Whenever I do get back in that mood/zone/mindset of workout/cardio/eatright, then I'll be a bit stricter with my diet so I can up the calories and make sure they are mostly healthy calories. :tup:

[celcius]

Anyone got healthy breakfast suggestions?

I've been eating either:
Eggo Pancakes
pancakes + fishsticks (0 trans fat)
fruit loops or cinnamon toast crunch + an apple or two
cereal + peanut butter sandwich + an apple

[CrouchingTiger]

Breakfast is unfortunately one of the easiest meals to pick options for yet you usually don't feel like fixing anything in the morning lol.

Eggs
Oatmeal
Bagels
Juices
Fish
Fruits

Oatmeal or bagels are the easiest. Both are ready to go in like no time at all.

If you prepare ahead of time, boiled eggs are easy as well. Boiled eggs are one of the most nutritional ways to eat eggs. You can just boil a dozen up, stick them in the fridge, and then you're set for several breakfasts.

[matrix9280]

Bread is evil and so is milk. Good to know.

[NeREMIXED]

The Fountain of Youth is the fucking ocean, not some hidden treasure. Drink lots of water every day instead of sugar-loaded soft drinks, you'll look and feel 100x better.

yanno i been drinking an assload of water lately

and an assload of water has been coming out of my ass lately.


am i diluting the hell out of my stomach with all that water?

[Rod Driguez]

What do you expect? It's an "assload" of water...

...sorry, couldn't resist.


Anyway, yeah, that shouldn't be happening. I guess you should take it down a notch with the H2O.

[Krimzon]

yanno i been drinking an assload of water lately

and an assload of water has been coming out of my ass lately.


am i diluting the hell out of my stomach with all that water?


get more excercise

[LuvMyCap]

So is the ramen that one buy at the pharmacy any good?

[Netology]

So is the ramen that one buy at the pharmacy any good?


what kind of ramen?



wait...no, no its not.

[Taito]

yanno i been drinking an assload of water lately

and an assload of water has been coming out of my ass lately.


am i diluting the hell out of my stomach with all that water?
You actually might be diluting your system a bit. If you're overdoing it with water intake, you should get some Gatorade or start eating bananas (or something else with potassium) so you don't fuck up your sodium/water balance.

[Chozen1]

i heard on the news that trans fat and sodium are doing people in lately, so i was wondering what i should be eating/avoiding to maintain a semi-healthy life.

eat like the cretans and your set for life. close thread. If you don't know what I mean, I'd suggest you look it up as this is truth be spoken.

[{PFH}-Lake]

well my god-father is like 70 now but he only looks 40, he eats only health food and takes vitamins everyday. Chicken is also good