Has anyone ever done a b16 engine swap?

[BrazilionBH]

I have been thinking of buying a new car lateley because my civic has no power.Its a lower model civic so it has no hp.So I recently looked into engine swaps and it seems like a better more economic thing to do insted of financing a new civic si.
Your Thoughts?

[AcryiLLic]

I have been thinking of buying a new car lateley because my civic has no power.Its a lower model civic so it has no hp.So I recently looked into engine swaps and it seems like a better more economic thing to do insted of financing a new civic si.
Your Thoughts?


I had a friend do a b16 motor swap to his 95 Civic lx hatchback and after the swap it had massive amounts of HP but he had constant maintenance to keep up the engine. I am not saying that is going to happen but its something that i am sure some people have to deal with....

[Draeger]

www.honda-acura.net/forums

Go there.

PS go hardcore and get yourself a LSVTEC with a GT3035.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

I know of a few that have done it, and they have all gotten smoked by me. Don't do it unless you have all the hook ups necessary because going to a shop will cost you $4k minimum and whatever BS charges they can come up with. The electronics you need to wire up will be a bitch and a half. All that trouble and you will probably have a 14 second car at best.

I suggest you keep your car the way it is and save up for something nice later on. There really is no such thing as a fast civic anyways. You are better off buying a car that already has a good motor in the first place.

[AcryiLLic]

You can save up to buy a SRT-4 they run pretty cheap and they have a nice kick to them

[Endless]

Honda-tech forums.

[Striderhyru05]

DONT DO IT!

the maintenance and repair fucking blows. not to mention when you need to pick up parts and when you need to go for emission and state inspection.

I thought it woulda been a good idea, boy was I wrong. save up brother, get something nice to drive you and the lady friend around in.

[Shukuda]

Wouldn't it be nice to have some torque a little early instead? Yes, yes it would. I'd save my money for something else.

[NeREMIXED]

k20a

dunzo

[Septimus Prime]

No power? Don't buy Honda.

[Humbag]

Thats why I drive a 91 Formula Firebird.

It aint stock either. :)

[ax0r]

Alot of people here don't know much about cars.

The b16 swap sucks, it yields no Torque all motor and the HP to the flywheel is weak.. only 160hp.. which is about 140WHP you will be putting down..

I\H\E you will be at 160whp which still sucks.



You can get your SOHC civic, slap a used turbo kit for about $1000, tuning for about $300 and you will have a turbo 200-220 WHP daily driver and would be FASTER and spent less money than the B16..


And what maintainance cost is everybody in here crying about? WHen you get a new motor no matter what the mileage you should do a full tune up (seals, belt, w\o pump, etc). After that its just regular Spark plugs \ Oil...


edit: save yourelf the trouble and search Honda-tech.com

[cain[e]]

Alot of people here don't know much about cars.

The b16 swap sucks, it yields no Torque all motor and the HP to the flywheel is weak.. only 160hp.. which is about 140WHP you will be putting down..

I\H\E you will be at 160whp which still sucks.



You can get your SOHC civic, slap a used turbo kit for about $1000, tuning for about $300 and you will have a turbo 200-220 WHP daily driver and would be FASTER and spent less money than the B16..


And what maintainance cost is everybody in here crying about? WHen you get a new motor no matter what the mileage you should do a full tune up (seals, belt, w\o pump, etc). After that its just regular Spark plugs \ Oil...


edit: save yourelf the trouble and search Honda-tech.com

I can vouch for the turbo thing, had a friend who did a SI Civic JDM motor swap (lighter parts of someshit/slightly higher hp) but got pissed with it and has someone tool a turbo onto it (but you gotta be careful with turbo on hondas...they don't mix well) and then that shit was flying.

[ax0r]

;4551070']I can vouch for the turbo thing, had a friend who did a SI Civic JDM motor swap (lighter parts of someshit/slightly higher hp) but got pissed with it and has someone tool a turbo onto it (but you gotta be careful with turbo on hondas...they don't mix well) and then that shit was flying.

Why do people contribute to threads when they don't know what the fuck they are talking about? There is no Civic Si in JAPAN, so how did your friend obtain a "SI Civic JDM motor swap" :lame:.

Honda's can be turbo'd with no problems, Like I said you have to tune it, you can't just "tool" a turbo onto your car. If you try to turbo your honda and don't spend good money on a stand alone \ chipped p28 or P06 with Uberdata, Chrome, Neptune, Hondata etc then your shit will BLOW UP! The tune is KEY!!

Trust me I had a 400 WHP Right hand drive 95 civic... TURBO on stock internals that shit ran 11.1 full interior on street tires.. AND it was my DD with a\c and PS...







EDIT: Before you continue to get confused by mixed responses.. 95% which have never even taken a motor apart, 75% which have never even seen a B16 before, do yourself a favor and go to www.honda-tech.com


TRUST ME!

[ax0r]

I know of a few that have done it, and they have all gotten smoked by me. Don't do it unless you have all the hook ups necessary because going to a shop will cost you $4k minimum and whatever BS charges they can come up with. The electronics you need to wire up will be a bitch and a half. All that trouble and you will probably have a 14 second car at best.

I suggest you keep your car the way it is and save up for something nice later on. There really is no such thing as a fast civic anyways. You are better off buying a car that already has a good motor in the first place.

Whoever charges $4,000 for a b16 is taking for a fool.

And what electronics do you need to wire up? WHAT?!?!? TELL ME LOL

there is no wiring up that needs to be done on a SOHC to DOHC swap except maybe 1 wire for the VTEC silenoid to the ecu if you are swapping from a NON-VTEC chassis..


You are such a tool, I wish you lived around Jax so I can pull bus lengths on you and then later brag about it.

[cain[e]]

Why do people contribute to threads when they don't know what the fuck they are talking about? There is no Civic Si in JAPAN, so how did your friend obtain a "SI Civic JDM motor swap" :lame:.

Honda's can be turbo'd with no problems, Like I said you have to tune it, you can't just "tool" a turbo onto your car. If you try to turbo your honda and don't spend good money on a stand alone \ chipped p28 or P06 with Uberdata, Chrome, Neptune, Hondata etc then your shit will BLOW UP! The tune is KEY!!

Trust me I had a 400 WHP Right hand drive 95 civic... TURBO on stock internals that shit ran 11.1 full interior on street tires.. AND it was my DD with a\c and PS...







EDIT: Before you continue to get confused by mixed responses.. 95% which have never even taken a motor apart, 75% which have never even seen a B16 before, do yourself a favor and go to www.honda-tech.com


TRUST ME!


his civic SI to jdm MOTOR SWAP. SRRZ I DIDNTZ TYPE IT OUT FULLY FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY TO UNDERSTAND IT.

ACCIDENTLY HIT THE CAPS LOCK KEY AND I DONT FEEL LIKE HITTING IT AGAIN

EDIT: yes i accidnetly hit the caps lock. and yes I know about the hondas/turbos thing. any kar can not mix well/mix wlel with a turbo. I just know that with hondas engines I think it has something to do with the high revs or some shit. w/e though it's all talk I hear any who, more of a mazda/toyota fan myself

[ax0r]

Again another post which proves you don't know shit about turbo's, and probably cars altogether :(

[cain[e]]

I don't, I dont even drive right now, nor do I care. I know people with cars. and all I was saying was he wasn't satified with just the swap and got a turbo. satsified?

EDIT: and b4 you underaged B& me, I'm 20 and just don't want a car right now cuz I live in the city

[ax0r]

The point proven, you should stay out of a thread where the topic is about an engine swap when you don't even own a vehicle!!!!

let alone ever swapped a motor!

[Shukuda]

I thought having to tune any boosted car was a given.

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[ChibiT89]

I thought having to tune any boosted car was a given.

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u know, you're probably ahead of 50% of the import crowd. congratulations... u would think tuning would be a higher priority but u see these kinds of threads very often.

OP, read Ax0r's post, he knows what he's talking about. Not very much more hardware required except messing with the ECU. and no, for a newbzor LSVTEC is not reliable by any means... plus, if u do start researching your block isnt suitable for a vtec head.

anyway, you seem like a new to cars so LSVTEC is out of the option... why arent you thinking about b18b and the b18c aka the LS and GSR integra engines?

[NeREMIXED]

;4551371']his civic SI to jdm MOTOR SWAP. SRRZ I DIDNTZ TYPE IT OUT FULLY FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY TO UNDERSTAND IT.

ACCIDENTLY HIT THE CAPS LOCK KEY AND I DONT FEEL LIKE HITTING IT AGAIN

EDIT: yes i accidnetly hit the caps lock. and yes I know about the hondas/turbos thing. any kar can not mix well/mix wlel with a turbo. I just know that with hondas engines I think it has something to do with the high revs or some shit. w/e though it's all talk I hear any who, more of a mazda/toyota fan myself

sleeve your shit and you straight!

tellin you though. k20a. 220bhp right off the bat. my friend has a em2 with a k20a swap, hondata reflash, and couple of bolt ons. he's making 230whp and runs mid 13's and gets at least 30mpg!

the new si is a what? k20z? 197bhp.

find urself a nice k20a or import an itr (the rsx ones).

[Quan]

sleeve your shit and you straight!

tellin you though. k20a. 220bhp right off the bat. my friend has a em2 with a k20a swap, hondata reflash, and couple of bolt ons. he's making 230whp and runs mid 13's and gets at least 30mpg!

the new si is a what? k20z? 197bhp.

find urself a nice k20a or import an itr (the rsx ones).

How much did it cost your friend to do the k20a swap? $5k+?

Screw the b16, just get an H22.

[Striderhyru05]

and I forgot to add, at the end of the day, its still an old civic.

save up and get something that's nice and isn't likely to get stolen.

[BrazilionBH]

Of coarse no one is always gonna be satisfied with their car.You will always want more and do more.But I dont really have the money right now to buy a new SI or a SEntra SE-R.PLus those cars weigh more so even though they have more HP the b16 swap would put me pretty close with my light 96.

[Oroman]

Trust me I had a 400 WHP Right hand drive 95 civic..

Right hand drive?! I'm assuming you imported it from Japan? I always wanted a right hand drive car, how much did it take to get to American specs?

[BrazilionBH]

Also new cars look like shit!Tell me one new car that doesnt look like a shoe?They also have to much electrical stuff to deal with.

[BrazilionBH]

Alot of people here don't know much about cars.

The b16 swap sucks, it yields no Torque all motor and the HP to the flywheel is weak.. only 160hp.. which is about 140WHP you will be putting down..

I\H\E you will be at 160whp which still sucks.



You can get your SOHC civic, slap a used turbo kit for about $1000, tuning for about $300 and you will have a turbo 200-220 WHP daily driver and would be FASTER and spent less money than the B16..


And what maintainance cost is everybody in here crying about? WHen you get a new motor no matter what the mileage you should do a full tune up (seals, belt, w\o pump, etc). After that its just regular Spark plugs \ Oil...


edit: save yourelf the trouble and search Honda-tech.com If I turbo my sohc non vtec Ill probly destroy it.Plus you got to remember its a process.I know you know alot more than I do about cars thats for sure.But my intentions are 1st get the engine swap,2nd exhaust/wheels(I need the car to look good), then Ill probly have to choose between super charging or turbo.
P.S. I looked at a b18 type r and its nearly 4k and with all the work to get it put in it cost a grand total of 6k.Thats alittle over my head even hough I would love to open my hood and see that nice red engine.,and know that my car is basically a inegra type r

[MrBuster]

Just take out a loan and get yourself a WRX... I love mine and I put down 302hp and 390tq with an 18g and supporting mods...

I was also thinking about going back to my honda roots. I was thinking of getting a gsr again. If I were you I would check the honda tech forums and see which motors would you see that is best for your needs and your wallet. but just for preferences... I really like the gsr swap.

[f_man]

where do you guys street race?

pros do it on the streets, not the dirt, not the track.

my friend told me as long as you have vtec and turbo, you can smoke ANY car on the street.

[ax0r]

You can't LS\VTEC his SOHC..

LS-VTEC is perfectly safe aslong as you put it together correctly (type R oil pump\water pump, new HG, properly open the holes for the dowell pins, properly route oil lines to the head, etc).


There are people who actually turbo their cars and run it on a SAFC, or a FMU.. talk about 14 psi and BASE STOCK TIMING WITH NO RETARD!!!!! shit will blow.

ive even seen cars with blown rings boost and put down good numbers because the tune was just that good.


And oh yeah, K20 sucks. Its expensive, slow, and parts are very scarce and expensive. Leave the K series to ballers and shops.

[f_man]

to whoever negged me

fuck you if you think honda creates the best cars in the world

or

youre too stupid to understand sarcasm.

or

learn to focking drive in the scca before you start drifting on those straight lines

[spideyman]

where do you guys street race?

pros do it on the streets, not the dirt, not the track.

my friend told me as long as you have vtec and turbo, you can smoke ANY car on the street.

:lame:burn rubber, not your soul. oh wait.........i'll take a 240sx over a civic any day but that's just me. piece.

[DarthTrey]

The first question you should ask yourself is:

Why did I buy a Honda?


Once you answer that question you should ask yourself:

Why didn't I buy a Golf GTI?

[Pablo_the_Mex]

Whoever charges $4,000 for a b16 is taking for a fool.

And what electronics do you need to wire up? WHAT?!?!? TELL ME LOL

there is no wiring up that needs to be done on a SOHC to DOHC swap except maybe 1 wire for the VTEC silenoid to the ecu if you are swapping from a NON-VTEC chassis..


You are such a tool, I wish you lived around Jax so I can pull bus lengths on you and then later brag about it.

Spoken like a true ricer.

Intec Racing up here is the only "decent" place that will do it last time I checked when I went to get my supra dyno/tuned, and 4k is what they told me. Wiring up the guage cluster and all that ish is a bitch. You make it seem as if it is just a matter of plopping in that shitty b16 in and calling it a day which it is not. Hence, why I suggested not doing it. Emmissions are also another thing to worry about.

So yeah, good going there calling me out knowing I don't live around you talking about bus lengths. Nigga please, I smoke bitches like you on the regular. Just know I have killed many a tool like you on the streets, please believe.

[ChunLi]

my bro got a b16a crx... that sucker is insanely fast...

[Bojack]

Anyone who wants absurd power on the cheap needs to get a Chevy 350 and juice the shit outta it.


---B.j.

[angelslayer13]

Anyone who wants absurd power on the cheap needs to get a Chevy 350 and juice the shit outta it.


---B.j.


I felt like saying something similar theres tons more better cars and engine combinations but since his heart is set on this b16 fuck it.

yeah emmissions are gonna be a bitch so good luck with this project

edit: which chevy 350?

[ax0r]

Spoken like a true ricer.

Intec Racing up here is the only "decent" place that will do it last time I checked when I went to get my supra dyno/tuned, and 4k is what they told me. Wiring up the guage cluster and all that ish is a bitch. You make it seem as if it is just a matter of plopping in that shitty b16 in and calling it a day which it is not. Hence, why I suggested not doing it. Emmissions are also another thing to worry about.

So yeah, good going there calling me out knowing I don't live around you talking about bus lengths. Nigga please, I smoke bitches like you on the regular. Just know I have killed many a tool like you on the streets, please believe.

Again, what the fuck are you talking about guy?

There is no CLUSTER wiring.. the speed sensor uses the same plug.. why do you need to wire your cluster up?

I have dropped many B series motors so don't insult me. All you basically have to do is take the motor out, swap a VTEC wiring harness if your car is not vtec, get B series mounts, and thats IT!!!


I have a low 11 second full street civic. on street tires. think of that like 10.5 with gutted interior and slicks. Bring that gay supra dyno queen of yours "ricer"

[Endless]

Both of you stop it.


Car threads on SRK are practically banned because the ALL turn into bitchfests.

[MrBlank]

your cars maybe fast, but your passing up all the pretty women going at them extreme speeds....

[Bojack]

I felt like saying something similar theres tons more better cars and engine combinations but since his heart is set on this b16 fuck it.

yeah emmissions are gonna be a bitch so good luck with this project

edit: which chevy 350?

I didn't know there were different Chevy 350s. I'm a Ford fan to be honest and only suggested Chevy 350 cuz I hear they're cheap as fuck to build. Personally I'd go for a 351w in an old Fox body.

[Som]

I had a friend do a b16 motor swap to his 95 Civic lx hatchback

am i the only one that caught this? D: loses redibility right thurrr.

i'm assuming ballamore is a play on baltimore and i don't think MD has any emissions shit. b16 in a civic is pretty plug and play. and any harness that needs different wiring like obd2->odb1 have conversion harnesses available online or you can make yourself. people do it all the time, anyone with common sense would think to supply any additional parts to make the install easy. easy money.

also, i don't like to follow the turbo right off the bat crowd because sooner or later you'll want more power. i'd rather start off with better powerplant then build from there. then, it depends on what you want the power for really; seeing who can slam down the pedal and shift faster(gay?) or track racing where light cars having 200+hp are crazy in the corners.

plan then build and save lots of monies.

[Will Gotti]

Again, what the fuck are you talking about guy?

There is no CLUSTER wiring.. the speed sensor uses the same plug.. why do you need to wire your cluster up?

I have dropped many B series motors so don't insult me. All you basically have to do is take the motor out, swap a VTEC wiring harness if your car is not vtec, get B series mounts, and thats IT!!!


I have a low 11 second full street civic. on street tires. think of that like 10.5 with gutted interior and slicks. Bring that gay supra dyno queen of yours "ricer"

Damn WTF dude...relax maybe? I know you've said you can't stand for people talking about stuff they don't know about and I agree but shit, you're getting on everybody that posts.

[BrazilionBH]

:lame:burn rubber, not your soul. oh wait.........i'll take a 240sx over a civic any day but that's just me. piece.
Actually I was looking at them as a project car and stumbled on a ae86 with a black top twin cam that was modded for racing(roll cage,kill switch etc.)But I want a full time car not a track car with an all steel suspension.

[BrazilionBH]

am i the only one that caught this? D: loses redibility right thurrr.

i'm assuming ballamore is a play on baltimore and i don't think MD has any emissions shit. b16 in a civic is pretty plug and play. and any harness that needs different wiring like obd2->odb1 have conversion harnesses available online or you can make yourself. people do it all the time, anyone with common sense would think to supply any additional parts to make the install easy. easy money.

also, i don't like to follow the turbo right off the bat crowd because sooner or later you'll want more power. i'd rather start off with better powerplant then build from there. then, it depends on what you want the power for really; seeing who can slam down the pedal and shift faster(gay?) or track racing where light cars having 200+hp are crazy in the corners.

plan then build and save lots of monies.
Yeah They dont plug my car or run it on the dyno so theres no way im spending close to another grand for them to put 2 different sensors on my car.

[Som]

do you have like a 4th gen civic?