One thread for the new SF4 Info and Screenshot from 1UP

[UltraDavid]

Yeah I gotta say Quiche, that does make it look better.

[Henaki]

urien needs to come back because goddammit they arent enough mexicans with a superiority complex in video games.

[Mr. Mamation]

it looks good

[Tura Satana]

You're a fucking idiot.

If you really thought gameplay was going to be something as mesmerizing/distracting as shawn in that teaser trailer then you deserve to be called an idiot.

Thanks.. was that really necessary, asshole? I infact DID NOT. Of course the true game could never live up to the teaser.. but this "screenshot" doesn't even live up to the teaser's steamy, fly-swarmed droppings. I am not a fucking idiot to believe that the first screenshot could atleast look FUCKING REAL. The small version looks fine but the blown up one on 1up.com looks like a fucking rancid paste job, and our own administrator agrees.

Jesus fucking christ, get your head out of Ryu's ass. Can't post anything questionable about SF without all you no-life fanboys getting your panties in a twist and gettin all belligerent.

[gilley]

i do not like the term 2.5D because there is no such thing a 2.5D. It`s a false term

SF4 is 3D graphicly rendered and plays 2D style fighting

3D models being rendered into frames sprites is not 2.5D either. Weather you digitise people (Mortal Kombat) or render frames of a 3D model into 2D sprites. That is 2D and not 2.5D

Maybe I`m just an animator ranting on about the term 2.5D but I`m speaking on fact.

SFIV is 3D. Even if the gameplay is 2D style, it`s still 3D.


I'm guessing you're an animator who hasn't used any of the 3D animation packages like 3DSMax or Maya. They have 2.5D snapping tools, so yes there is 2.5D.

[XEN MASTER MARK]

This, IMO, is a more useful characterization.

I disagree. I'm counting any movement along a spatial axis as a degree of freedom, rather than assigning arbitrary numbers or accounting for quirky gameplay mechanics like rolling (which is functionally the same as walking or dashing). Side stepping is an unusual case in that although you apparently move into the screen, you have no control over whether your travel is positive, or negative along that axis. Therefore it only counts as one additional degree of freedom, not two.

I thought it might help to prevent confusion between folks talking about graphical dimensions and those talking about gameplay dimensions. I was clearly mistaken. :lol:

The proper Physics concept of degrees of freedom is different, but since almost no fighting games allow rotation of the character, it's not very helpful here.

[Are_you_okay?!]

Dhalsim is coming back
FUCK YEAH

I wasn't surprised to see Chun's return, but Dhalsim threw me off guard so yay. They did state new moves will be added, so I can't wait. Luckily I got a subscription to EGM among a few others.

[Tigerboi]

what i was trying to say is that moving between demensions, side steps, is just an other feature. its just not that big of a deal. 2.5d is just 3d without the side steps. saying its 2.5d just dont say that much about the gameplay, just as much as saying it dont involve parries.
now everyone is so happy that its gonna feel 2d, while that just means you cant do side steps. maybe side steps would not even hurt the game.

No...just..no....it's alot more than just sidesteps.

For one, hit properties are totally different in 3D games because you can now be hit from any side. That means that cobmo possibilities are much different due to the hitbox differences.


Also, wakeup games in 3D games are nothing like they are in 2D games. In 3d games factors come into play like what direction the downed enemy will roll in, will they stayed down, will they used a while getting up attack, the downed enemy has to worry about getting hit on the ground, etc. It's just not the same. At all.

And the simple fact that it's 3D would mean that ring outs and walls would come into play. Dude, the differences get ALOT deeper than just sidesteping.

[Son Them All]

-- Game looks good, glad it gonna play 2-d. Hope it moves smoothly and the transition animations are good. Choppy transitions phuck up any game. Most of all, i'm looking forward to a fresh game with people playing their own style, figureing $hit out for themselvs and not copy'n big players. Originality will return again, at least until a couple years after the release when the sheep get back in the herd.:wgrin:

That's my big thing right there. There's nobody to copy right off the gate on a brand new title. Should be interesting to see what kind of bullshit people think is "broken" in the first year and then realize somethin they never thought about trumps it completely....Rinse repeat for 3 more years after that.

[Septimus Prime]

While I do enjoy returning characters, I hope this doesn't turn into a SF2 remake.

Oh, and bring back Alex, please.

[polarity]

snip

Thanks for that. This is a more eloquent version of what I was thinking, pretty much. Of course, the lines of what SF is start blurring somewhat when you get stuff like SF3 which offers minimal freedom even in the X axis, seeing as you pretty much never fight outside of sweep range.

[DanielLarusso]

Damn.

When was the last time niggas had to actually wait for the new EGM to get info?

I feel like we just entered 1993 all over again.

OMGNEWEGMCANTWAIT

To all those peeps who don't live in the US and are not sure about your EGM access, chill. You know as soon as that shit hits the streets someone's gonna have the info online somewhere.

[Gutter Trash]

I'm guessing you're an animator who hasn't used any of the 3D animation packages like 3DSMax or Maya. They have 2.5D snapping tools, so yes there is 2.5D.

Softimage from 1998-2001, Maya from 2001-2003, Max from 2003-present

so yeah I`m an idiot ignoramace who is retarded

2.5D snapping tools ..... it`s still 3D no matter what. It only become 2D if you render it into sprite images.

Inside an engine being rendered in 3D....... it`s 3D.. even if they fight in a 2D plane.

[CptMunta]

I know it's been said a million times. But.....

Sim! is BACK!!! Fuck yeah!

It'll be cool to see the P2 colours or even hmmmm... costumes maybe?

I think the screen shot looks great. Love the way Ryu has been rendered.

[polarity]

Softimage from 1998-2001, Maya from 2001-2003, Max from 2003-present

so yeah I`m an idiot ignoramace who is retarded

2.5D snapping tools ..... it`s still 3D no matter what. It only become 2D if you render it into sprite images.

Inside an engine being rendered in 3D....... it`s 3D.. even if they fight in a 2D plane.

hey can we stop bitching about fucking semantics when its totally fucking clear what everyone means if you decide not to just be deliberately obtuse

[ruthless_nash]

i quite like the fact the original is quite colourful. I reckon its a throw back to the typical backgrounds in SF, all of them pretty much were bright and colourful. Even supposed "dark, moody" stages are bright, like Gen in SFA2, Hugp 3S, etc

[cain[e]]

wasn't dragon claw from mugen (haha yeah mugen I know) rendered and animated in 3d first and then some how flattened into a 2d sprite?

[Ferdinandz]

Mouth diarrhea

You are a fucking idiot :rofl:

Thinking you know shit about anything, you little shit.

Thought you'd come in here and start nit picking shit huh motherfucker? wrong, go back to the shithole you came from.

BTW scans should be up before the 18th

[Burnsro]

lollllllllll

what

[DanielLarusso]

Re: 2D/2.5D/3D discussion -

I just wonder if Ryu's cock is in 3D, as in, does it cross over deep into to the Z-axis, if you were to say, parry or sidestep a fireball. So in other words, would Ryu's cock automatically counter a fireball throwing oppenant on a sidestep, or is there some sort of command cock attack that would need to be input?

[Burnsro]

Re: 2D/2.5D/3D discussion -

I just wonder if Ryu's cock is in 3D, as in, does it cross over deep into to the Z-axis, if you were to say, parry or sidestep a fireball. So in other words, would Ryu's cock automatically counter a fireball throwing oppenant on a sidestep, or is there some sort of command cock attack that would need to be input?
Hopefully it's 60fps and zooms in with high grade special effects like in the trailer.

[Shade]

Who the hell negged me, because I said "3D graphics ftw"? Man the fuck up, and at least leave your name.

Bitches.

[Eckostyle]

Anyone notice the boner Ryu has in the pic?

lol.

[SteveTren]

The detail in the pic is incredible. There must be some serious arcade hardware behind that. I wonder if the 360 and ps3 can keep up with that. Can't wait to see a video.

[Guregu]

I really like the style in the screenshot. The only thing that looks weird is Ryu's chin, it looks a little too long. Someone at the Capcom Unity boards already made a version with a better looking chin lol. Check it out:

http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showthread.php?t=23375&page=9

[JackTenrac!]

Look == Great.
Ground == bad. It's flat.

[Mr. Mamation]

Thanks.. was that really necessary, asshole? I infact DID NOT. Of course the true game could never live up to the teaser.. but this "screenshot" doesn't even live up to the teaser's steamy, fly-swarmed droppings. I am not a fucking idiot to believe that the first screenshot could atleast look FUCKING REAL. The small version looks fine but the blown up one on 1up.com looks like a fucking rancid paste job, and our own administrator agrees.

Jesus fucking christ, get your head out of Ryu's ass. Can't post anything questionable about SF without all you no-life fanboys getting your panties in a twist and gettin all belligerent.

i think it looks fine and im not a big fan of SF. Im not looking for exceptional graphics anyway. As far as it looking real, the trailer is going to be the closest you get.

[MAGUS1234]

need to fix his feet size IMHO, the chin job was pretty good in that other forum. SWEET pic though!

[cain[e]]

he gave him better cheekbones too

[render]

Quiche's color fix... The chin fix over here: http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showthread.php?t=23375&page=9

I hope Capcom takes some notes.

[Tura Satana]

You are a fucking idiot :rofl:

Thinking you know shit about anything, you little shit.

Thought you'd come in here and start nit picking shit huh motherfucker? wrong, go back to the shithole you came from.

BTW scans should be up before the 18th

I don't recall claiming to know shit about anything. I'm just a casual SF fan who looked at the picture and gave my opinion of it, because thats what this thread/forum is for. I didn't think anyone would get hemorroids because of it. Sorry.. I didn't know you'd be so defensive about your little game.

[cain[e]]

Quiche's color fix... The chin fix over here: http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showthread.php?t=23375&page=9

I hope Capcom takes some notes.

it was more like a complete face job lol

[arstal]

What's with Ryu's Belt changing like that? It looks stupid.
Since when do "gi-wearing dorks" wear belts that belong with a pair of jeans?

[UltraDavid]

Yeah that chin fix is really nice. Someone combine the chin fix with Quiche's color edit!

[Wut_da_Heck]

They forgot to mention their new character, Ryu's weiner. Playable, but after you defeat Sheng Long.

[parallaxscroll]

So, at least half of the original 8 World Warriors are returning.

the original 8 World Warriors:
Ryu, Ken, Guile, Chun Li , E Honda, Dhalsim, Blanka, Zangief

of those

Ryu, Ken, Chun Li and Dhalsim are returning to Street Fighter 4.

that is partly what I wanted, the classic SFII cast.

am I glad the characters are rendered in 3D polygons? NO
am I glad SF4 will still play in 2D? YES

I hope more of the SFII cast returns, including the bosses.

I hope the backgrounds are amazing, unlike all of the SFIII games. I hope there's a ton of depth and scrolling in the backgrounds, like SFII backgrounds, which Capcom totally destroyed with SFIII IMO. for the most part anyway.

I hope the MUSIC is memorable, unlike most of the music in the SFIII games.

[Hawk]

What? All we get is one screenshot?

[cain[e]]

c'mon..you mean getting "trapped in the world of street fighter 3" wasn't memorable XD?

[The Furious One]

Cant believe it took 9 pages for someone to finally say its Ryu's taunt lol!

Anyway great pic, niceone for the colour correction! And Jashugan0 edit of both Ryu images is much better!

Anyone know actual release date for this EGM issue is?

[Aeonin]

I did some color changes:

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eaeonin//ryu1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eaeonin//ryu2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eaeonin//ryu3.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eaeonin//ryu4.jpg

[The_Dragon]

I would expect the EGM issue to show Chun Li, and perhaps Dhalsim. I am looking forward to see how Chun Li is rendered. I would like to see further confirmation of the characters in the game, especially any returning characters from Alpha and 3S, as an indication of how varied the cast may be.

[UltraDavid]

I did some color changes:

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eaeonin//ryu3.jpg
Sweet, and good job using the chin edit. Ok, now someone put this in Quiche's color edited world!

[XEN MASTER MARK]

And thusly SF4 : Indie edition was born! :)

Let's do this! :lol:

[lino]

No...just..no....it's alot more than just sidesteps.

For one, hit properties are totally different in 3D games because you can now be hit from any side. That means that cobmo possibilities are much different due to the hitbox differences.
i see thats more as a side effect. combos, hitboxes, can also be very differerent between two games that aproach the same stile.


Also, wakeup games in 3D games are nothing like they are in 2D games. In 3d games factors come into play like what direction the downed enemy will roll in, will they stayed down, will they used a while getting up attack, the downed enemy has to worry about getting hit on the ground, etc. It's just not the same. At all.
a 3d game does not nessesarily need to have those wakeup games and something simular could be done with sprites.


And the simple fact that it's 3D would mean that ring outs and walls would come into play. Dude, the differences get ALOT deeper than just sidesteping.
a 3d game does not nessesarily invole walls and ring outs.

[Corner-Trap]

^^^

You have to be kidding me.

[SaBrE]

http://treize.ryustemple.net/sf4parry.jpg
Parry anyone ? ^^

uh no. ryu had his taunt in 3s that was the same, and that was also his AC animation in alpha series. so it can be anything.

game looks fantastic, while its not hand drawn sprites, it still retains the feel and look of sf, and thats important. battle fantasia proves a 3d engine can move like a traditional 2d game. not saying that game is good, its just an example to prove that iits possible.

as for the KI references. those are sprites, pre-rendered sprites. they are comprised of polygons on a cgi machine, then converted to a 2d sprite form. no way in hell they coulda looked that good in 1994 in real time 3d with the technology then. common sense now cmon =)

[Hawk]

You have to be kidding me.

Welcome to the SF4 forum. Get used to comments like these. :rofl:

[Stranger]

I was hoping for 2D... I'm disappointed.

But, they can still impress me if the animations are cool. I'm not getting my hopes high, though.

Another thing, they should have gone with CVS Ryu instead.

[JubeiNinja69]

as long as it doesn't play anything like the EX series its all good.

[DarkNecrid]

*2D/3D fighting environments
*Classic Street Fighter characters re-imagined for a new generation of gamers
*New special moves that go beyond any Street Fighter fan’s wildest imagination
*Amazing locations never seen before in a Street Fighter game
*New gameplay elements provide new challenges for both newcomers and the most seasoned Street Fighter pro.

:lovin:

[Nokato]

*2D/3D fighting environments
*Classic Street Fighter characters re-imagined for a new generation of gamers
*New special moves that go beyond any Street Fighter fan’s wildest imagination
*Amazing locations never seen before in a Street Fighter game
*New gameplay elements provide new challenges for both newcomers and the most seasoned Street Fighter pro.

:lovin:


As long as those things happen, SF4 could be really good. Albeit the nice previews, no one can make real judgement until we play it, I am looking forward to hearing reviews in EGM, firsthand.

[Corner-Trap]

Whats with everyone still wishing the game was 2D? It already is 2D.

[Half-Ro]

Complainers = Homo......

[DanielLarusso]

I was hoping for 2D... I'm disappointed.



Which brings me to my point, I hear this whole 2.5D/3D shit. But that Shoryuken.com front page needs to be changed, it's a big LOL. To have the first thing you see "Street Fighter IV is 2D OMGHI2U!!!!!!111" then right under those words have a CLEARLY 3D screen shot is a little misleading at the least, and flat out false at worst.

A more appropriate header would have been "3D Graphics/2D Gameplay" or something to that effect.

[TS]

Call me crazy, but...

Does Ryu look like a 2d sprite instead of a 3d model to anybody else? Maybe cell shading has just gotten more advanced, but...

[cain[e]]

Complainers = Homo......

damn..that's alot gay people all up outta no where, it's nice to know someone has gaydar.

@ TS: It's a stretch, but I can see where you're comming from on that one.

[polarity]

Call me crazy, but...

Does Ryu look like a 2d sprite instead of a 3d model to anybody else? Maybe cell shading has just gotten more advanced, but...

only if you squint

[XEN MASTER MARK]

battle fantasia proves a 3d engine can move like a traditional 2d game.

Strictly speaking, the amount of freedom in gameplay is not at all related to the dimensions that a game is presented in. It's perfectly possible to present Tetris or Pacman or Street Fighter in 3D dimensions (which varying levels of sophistication) without impacting the gameplay (or input mechanisms) at all.

Conversely, it quite possible to have the game logic for something as graphically complex as Half Life 2 remain intact internally, while rewriting the presentation layer as a top-down 2D romper. There's a very clean internal (and conceptual) separation between game logic and presentation and another between input and game logic.

All 3 parts of the system are conceptually independent. Provided the input mechanism (be it a pad, joystick, mouse) allows you to interact with the game effectively, and that the presentation layer allows you to react to it effectively, all will be well. It's just that some input systems work more effectively with some presentation systems than others. Fighting games on a stick, or shooters on a mouse and Keyboard, for example.

[Corner-Trap]

I just realized something. In the past three EGM magazines, if you look at the back in the next issue section(which gives you a preview of whats going to be in the next issue). There have been little numbers at the bottom. The numbers have been I, II, and III. The next issue will have the number IV on it, so I guess EGM has been playing to do coverage on SFIV for a good while now.

[XEN MASTER MARK]

Call me crazy, but...

Does Ryu look like a 2d sprite instead of a 3d model to anybody else?

I said the same thing and sited reasons on Page 9. I don't think anybody cares to be honest :lol:

[JubeiNinja69]

well yeah mags are not written in a day. they are planned months in advance. anyway i expect my egm to come in a few weeks. and yeah ryu looks like an advanced form of cel shading that looks 3d. cel shading and 3d backgrounds ftw.

[Mr. Mamation]

game looks fantastic, while its not hand drawn sprites, it still retains the feel and look of sf, and thats important. battle fantasia proves a 3d engine can move like a traditional 2d game. not saying that game is good, its just an example to prove that iits possible.


i feel the same way

[pootnannies]

Lol, since when was Ryu a purple-belt?

I like the models in the shot, but I have some issues with the colors. Currently doing a color-correction to how i think it should look.

...seriously.

i don't think he actually has a purple belt. i like the way it looks weathered and old

[Half-Ro]

;4570812']damn..that's alot gay people all up outta no where, it's nice to know someone has gaydar.




Im just sayin, we finally get sf4 and people are complaining about this nigga's chin?? I mean, for real?? No bullshit, about his chin???


:annoy::looney::annoy:

[cain[e]]

Im just sayin, we finally get sf4 and people are complaining about this nigga's chin?? I mean, for real?? No bullshit, about his chin???


:annoy::looney::annoy:


haha I know, e-sarcasm isn't transmitted very well.

[Autocrat1]

What are you guys smoking?
Ryu's cock.

Gratuitous polygons 4TL

[Aeonin]

Some people were saying on another forum that my previous links were down, so I hosted them on photobucket.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/XenoBach/ryu4.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/XenoBach/ryu3.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/XenoBach/ryu2.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/XenoBach/ryu1.jpg

Now I'm working on a evil Ryu.

[UltraDavid]

But I mean, it is kinda weird that some amateurs made it look considerably better within like 5 hours of its release, right? I think that speaks to the fact that this release was less than stellar quality.

[quiche]

Ryu in that pic reminds me of the patient at 4:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBzIPWBngbE

...seriously.

[Nokato]

The chin isn't my issue really, my issue is moreso how this game is going to work. I'm open to it being 3-D, since well I really have no choice in the matter. Did I want Akiman to do sprites traditionally? Of course I did.

Even though I play(ed) competitive SF, I still have a strong connection to the 2-D artists at Capcom during most of my youth so its not just a competitive feeling that I'm concerned about with SF, but the aesthetic approach as well. His chin being off, wasn't even something I noticed as being "wrong". I just think a part of me was disappointed that it wasn't traditionally 2-D. Everyone has a right to an opinion obviously, so people that wanted the game to be in @-d shouldn't be considered complainers really. Just because it's SF4 doesn't mean it gives the game itself the right to be done any kind of way.

Despite my gripes, I'll still play the game, hoping that as more is revealed I'll continue to overlook the lack of traditional 2-D, much like I did with the SF4 trailer.

[Are_you_okay?!]

as long as it doesn't play anything like the EX series its all good.

I agree, I just want it to play like SF, if it gets that I'll be a happy camper.

[Corner-Trap]

What the hell is the point with the way the game looks as long as it plays like a 2D fighter. Isn't that what everyone wanted?

[cain[e]]

yes.

[Dencore]

Battle Fantasia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Fantasia)

Some battle fantasia game play footage (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JwjJa9l1cSo).

I think I'm going to throw up.

This is the game people keep giving reference too? That looks retarded.

[wakasashe]

While I do enjoy returning characters, I hope this doesn't turn into a SF2 remake.

Oh, and bring back Alex, please.

SF4's gotta lot of iconic shoes to fill so if we get too much SF2, we're not getting enough new.

And yes. Alex should be back in this game. Settle his score with Ryu!

[Lebowsk1]

Call me crazy, but...

Does Ryu look like a 2d sprite instead of a 3d model to anybody else? Maybe cell shading has just gotten more advanced, but...

I know what you mean, look at the feet!

If that is a sprite then game is gonna be hella hot for sure, if it's polygons then it all hangs in the balance.

[cain[e]]

SF4's gotta lot of iconic shoes to fill so if we get too much SF2, we're not getting enough new.

And yes. Alex should be back in this game. Settle his score with Ryu!

yeah we're already getting ssf2t:hd remix, we don't need ssf2t: 3d remix as well

[MaybeMemories]

mutah fuckin chunli, allllright.

[Digitalbooty]

But I mean, it is kinda weird that some amateurs made it look considerably better within like 5 hours of its release, right? I think that speaks to the fact that this release was less than stellar quality.

1. That's a matter of opinion. I don't think quiche's color edit looks better, imo.

2. Haven't you ever created something and looked at it 100000 times and didn't see a fault in it until an outside source pointed it out?



I think it looks great as is. I'm sure there are some things that can look better, but that's all a matter of opinion. If they find something really disturbing, they'll fix it, I'm sure. I'm confident that nothing as bad looking as the EGM cover will make it into the final product.

[MAGUS1234]

I wonder if those 3 new characters from CFA are gonna be in it?

[Aeonin]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/XenoBach/evilryu.jpg

[hubcapsignstop]

;4570450']wasn't dragon claw from mugen (haha yeah mugen I know) rendered and animated in 3d first and then some how flattened into a 2d sprite?
i vaguely remember that
that shit looked cool

[shatterstar]

What the hell is the point with the way the game looks as long as it plays like a 2D fighter. Isn't that what everyone wanted?
no.

it's not 2D. it's 2.5D...

[wakasashe]

I wonder if those 3 new characters from CFA are gonna be in it?

..Like Haggar?

I could definately go without Ingrid tho.

[cain[e]]

i vaguely remember that
that shit looked cool

yeah that dude needs to get off his music producing shit and make a full cast of characters like that...and THEN produce music for them/a game. and use a better engine than mugen.

[Tigerboi]

no.

it's not 2D. it's 2.5D...

:rofl:

[Fadedsun303]

no.

it's not 2D. it's 2.5D...

I'm pretty sure the article says it's going to play like a 2D fighter. Did I read something wrong? I don't think I did.

[Mowbs]

i can't believe some of you knuckleheads wanted sprites and actually thought they were going to use them.

[Nokato]

Didn't the creator, or one of the creators of Dragonclaw die in a boating accident a few weeks ago? It was posted on dustloop, if I recall.

http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2...ry_180302.html

found it this thread on dustloop.

http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2351&page=42

Apparently, it was on ocremix.org as well.

I don't really give too much credit to the originating post though....

[cain[e]]

Didn't the creator, or one of the creators of Dragonclaw die in a boating accident a few weeks ago? It was posted on dustloop, if I recall.


didn't see that, I'll have too look that up.

[asianhitler]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/XenoBach/evilryu.jpg

Can I use this as an avatar and can someone make me an avatar of this?! :sweat:

[Aeonin]

Can I use this as an avatar and can someone make me an avatar of this?! :sweat:

Yeah, it's cool if you use it as an avatar.

[Ferdinandz]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/XenoBach/evilryu.jpg

Fucking beast! :lovin::lovin:

[Dencore]

:rofl:

How is that funny? .....what he said was completely true. :|
2.5D applies to either look or/and gameplay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5D

[cain[e]]

Didn't the creator, or one of the creators of Dragonclaw die in a boating accident a few weeks ago? It was posted on dustloop, if I recall.

http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2...ry_180302.html

found it this thread on dustloop.

http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2351&page=42

Apparently, it was on ocremix.org as well.

I don't really give too much credit to the originating post though....

oh shit :( R.I.P. Reu, that was one of the slickest creations I have ever seen.

[UltraDavid]

1. That's a matter of opinion. I don't think quiche's color edit looks better, imo.

2. Haven't you ever created something and looked at it 100000 times and didn't see a fault in it until an outside source pointed it out?
Sure, but personally, I think Aeonin's Evil Ryu edit is considerably better, and it seems like a lot of the posters here agree. As for whether people have pointed out flaws in things I've made, of course they have, but presumably Capcom has more than one person working on this and presumably they are not amateurs, so it's puzzling to me that they wouldn't have released something that the community didn't feel they needed to immediately improve upon.

[Stranger]

i don't think he actually has a purple belt. i like the way it looks weathered and oldI don't think he's taken a shower since 3s either...

[two2tone]

The graphic looks like garbage... i aint gonna lie... looks like Mortal Kombat 3D series... im VERY dissapointed (as i knew i would be)

3D with 2D gameplay? wasnt that implemented in SFEX??...

[Guregu]

The graphic looks like garbage... i aint gonna lie... looks like Mortal Kombat 3D series... im VERY dissapointed (as i knew i would be)

3D with 2D gameplay? wasnt that implemented in SFEX??...

Ryu's model looks 100x better than any of the 3D MK models. The MK models always had a lame claymation look to them. The detail and style for what we've seen on SFIV so far is very apealing IMO.

[Ferdinandz]

looks like Mortal Kombat 3D series

What the fuck..:looney:

are you like, trolling? The style in that picture does not even remotely look like any of the 3D MK games.

[Dencore]

The graphic looks like garbage... i aint gonna lie... looks like Mortal Kombat 3D series... im VERY dissapointed (as i knew i would be)

3D with 2D gameplay? wasnt that implemented in SFEX??...

Yeah but Capcom didn't really try it was Arika.

So far only one game has gotten it down (Battle Fantasia) and from the vids it looks like shit since 3D models just don't look right moving that fast.

Normally I'd doubt that Capcom would get it right, but then again they've been working on this for years. Then again it also isn't being done by the original Street Fighter team but the ones who did Onimusha Dawn of Dreams.

[Nokato]

Yeah but Capcom didn't really try it was Akira.

So far only one game has gotten it down (Battle Fantasia) and from the vids it looks like shit since 3D models just don't look right moving that fast.

Actually, the company was "Arika" named after the founder Arika Nishitani. Anyways, even with my gripes I can't really give a full opinion until I see it moving. Regardless of it not reaching all my expectations I'm sure I'll play the game.

[two2tone]

What the fuck..:looney:

are you like, trolling? The style in that picture does not even remotely look like any of the 3D MK games.

nah ur trollin :arazz:

[The Epidemic]

The graphic looks like garbage... i aint gonna lie... looks like Mortal Kombat 3D series... im VERY dissapointed (as i knew i would be)

3D with 2D gameplay? wasnt that implemented in SFEX??...

:rofl: u cant be serious...

[The Furious One]

Someone compile all the dumbass statements into one plz, we need some sort of sub section to the FAQ lol would get quite long i imagine. :rofl:

[Dencore]

Actually, the company was "Arika" named after the founder Arika Nishitani. Anyways, even with my gripes I can't really give a full opinion until I see it moving. Regardless of it not reaching all my expectations I'm sure I'll play the game.

Yeah it was a typo. And yes I'll give it a shot. I'm not really mad that the hitboxes are pretty certain to change I mean fuck SFIII was nothing like SFII, I'm just mad that there isn't a big budget 2D visual fighter to combat the big boys.

[Nokato]

Yeah it was a typo. And yes I'll give it a shot. I'm not really mad that the hitboxes are pretty certain to change I mean fuck SFIII was nothing like SFII, I'm just mad that there isn't a big budget 2D visual fighter to combat the big boys.

I definitely wanted a 2-D fighter deep down, but I was always open-minded to a 3-D, if they chose to due to marketing. Yeah. it's sad but I hope that SF4 will be a game that may change my mind about games that look 3-D on a 2-D plane. Like I said, even thought I'm slightly dissappointed I still plan on giving this game a chance.

[cain[e]]

Yeah it was a typo. And yes I'll give it a shot. I'm not really mad that the hitboxes are pretty certain to change I mean fuck SFIII was nothing like SFII, I'm just mad that there isn't a big budget 2D visual fighter to combat the big boys.

just wait for th next 2d guilty gear, that's garunteed to be some hot HiDef shit right there. but then again, who knows when that's going to come out. I woulnd't be surprised if we get another XX revision before then even though they said accent core would be the last revision. oh well.

back on topic: sf4 looks good btw

[SmoothCat]

chun is back o damn its a wrap cancel xmas!

[Tigerboi]

How is that funny? .....what he said is true. :|

2.5D applies to either look or/and gameplay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5D

No crap? 2.5D technically doesn'y exsist. 2.5D is a visual term only.

[Dencore]

;4571134']just wait for th next 2d guilty gear, that's garunteed to be some hot HiDef shit right there. but then again, who knows when that's going to come out. I woulnd't be surprised if we get another XX revision before then even though they said accent core would be the last revision. oh well.

back on topic: sf4 looks good btw

But I mean huge big budget. In terms of scale of this, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter or what not. Something known to the masses.

Personally I think that Basara X and SFIIHD was payment of this.

No crap? 2.5D technically doesn'y exsist. 2.5D is a visual term only.

I love it when people get backed into a corner during an argument they say the most irrelevant things as rebuttal as if it's mandatory for them to have the last word.

[cain[e]]

But I mean huge big budget. In terms of scale of this, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter or what not. Something known to the masses.

Personally I think that Basara X and SFIIHD was payment of this.

I think after GG2: overture (if it does even halfway decently in japan) the next GG title will be huge budget, but that's a discussion for another time.

[DarkNecrid]

2.5D doesn't exist though, there is no 2.5 Dimension, there is a 2nd Dimension, and a 3rd Dimension, but no inbetween.

It is just a visual term.

[Dencore]

2.5D doesn't exist though, there is no 2.5 Dimension, there is a 2nd Dimension, and a 3rd Dimension, but no inbetween.

It is just a visual term.

And I can't be pist off because....

;4571163']I think after GG2: overture (if it does even halfway decently in japan) the next GG title will be huge budget, but that's a discussion for another time.

Let's hope so.

[shatterstar]

I'm just mad that there isn't a big budget 2D visual fighter to combat the big boys.
same here.

[10x]

And I can't be pist off because.....no one has even played or seen it in motion. Plus, the screen looks awesome, I think Ryu has never been so faithfully represented in 3d.

Whether you like the 2.5d representation or not, you have to admit that

1. The screen is impressive. I mean, look at Ryu's model...it really gives off the facade that he is to some degree hand-drawn.
2. The 3d graphics will attract new players which is what the fighting game scene REALLY needs right now.

[zerog]

I hope the game doesn't have annoying ass, zooming in and out, i hate that crap

[dbostick]

Gameplay is strictly 2D? That's all I really cared about to being with.

[Mr. Mamation]

man, chun must be a milf by now :D

[Pablo_the_Mex]

This game better be similar in speed to ST. Does not matter though, I shall remain optimistic.

[Tigerboi]

I love it when people get backed into a corner during an argument they say the most irrelevant things as rebuttal as if it's mandatory for them to have the last word.

Like you did just now? I've known what 2.5D meant this whole time, and for years. Why you linked me to a wiki is beyond me.

[Dragonfave723]

Wonder what the bonus stage will be like in SF4...........(if any). If it a "Beat the crap out of that vehicle"-type, then I would prefer they smash up Sodom's old abandoned truck. :wgrin:

[Corner-Trap]

quality of posts in this thread are severely dropping.

[ezekial45]

Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-new-info-and-pictures-from-street-fighter-iv-leaked-58045.phtml) has an interesting write up about the Saving/Revenge system. Along with two pics of Ryu and Ken fighting.

The graphics aren't the way they are in the teaser that everyone watched. The game's still pretty, but it has nothing of that ink-splashing or anything. Art direction is interesting. Unlike all the other 3D fighters, SFIV is not meant to be photo realistic.

Street Fighter IV runs at 60 frames per second.

Street Fighter IV will have online play.

The game takes place after Super Street Fighter II Turbo and before SFIII. The good news is that the character roster will be made of many old-school brawlers and some entirely new ones. There are two new girls on the list. We will probably not see any SFIII characters.

The stage you saw at 1Up, if you didn't figure out, is Chun-Li's Stage from SF2.

The excellent Parry system form SFIII is gone. The new system seems to be called Saving or Revenge (we're not sure about the name). We don't know exactly how it works, but it's built around cancels. And we do know we'll have another gauge to activate the Saving/Revenge stuff, besides the usual Super Gauge.

Supers are there (although they didn't decide yet if it will be like in SSF2T or SFIII), and now they've put another moves called Ultras. These makes your character throws a auto combo with tons of moves. It's like a custom combo ... except by the custom part.

Shen Long may appear in the game. We are NOT kidding.

The consoles are not decided yet, really. But, assuming that SFIV will have online play, we can obviously think of Xbox 360 and PS3 (duh). It's very likely that we'll see an arcade version without online mode too, and our sources told us that Capcom could put some test machines in Japan arcades in Q2 next year.

[Septimus Prime]

I hope it's one of those hybrid SUVs, with its smug-ass, holier-than-thou-even-though-I-get-negligible-mileage-gains-while-I-cut-
you-off-while-chatting-away-on-my-cellphone driver is still in it.

Or maybe a Yaris, but I guess having the car get smashed isn't the type of exposure they're looking for.

EDIT: Those two new screenshots don't look that good, and I really hope they're fake.

[ViciousSLASH]

The screenshot isn't bad, but I'm not really blown away or anything.

It's no Virtua Fighter 5, but then what is?

I guess I just need to see more screens, and since it's cell shading it probably looks way way different in motion ( ex. Zone of the Enders 2 )

The way Ryu's feet are positioned make it seem like he's floating or was pasted on there like the guy with the 12 avatar said.

I guess I'm lucky I signed up for EGM for free a couple months back. Chun Buns better have GIANT thighs.

EDIT - After seeing those two other screenshots, I'm betting it will look pretty good in motion. Ken's face looks really weird and Ryu's face looks really great in that one screen. Sucks it's not going to have many SF 3 characters in it. Capcom is going straight up ol school for this, bringing back all the old favorites so no one bitches. It's not really SF 4 as much as it is SF Omega now I guess.

That kinda sucks.

[ezekial45]

In case nobody saw my post on the Previous page.

Destructoid/Blogeek got the scoop! (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4571370&postcount=374)

[Stranger]

"The game takes place after Super Street Fighter II Turbo and before SFIII"

Is that a joke ? How come Ryu looks older then ?

Also, no more parry ? I liked parries...

[SpinalBlood]

avatar


Has dai been broadcasted in usa too?

[omni]

Supposedly more new screenshots can be found here http://www.blogeek.com.br/

Real?

Derek Daniels
http://lowfierce.blogspot.com

[Tigerboi]

looks really nice. but screw that, I want more info on these new system changes.

[Taito]

Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-new-info-and-pictures-from-street-fighter-iv-leaked-58045.phtml) has an interesting write up about the Saving/Revenge system. Along with two pics of Ryu and Ken fighting.
..I wish I hadn't seen those pics.

And Save/Revenge or whatever just sounds like an 'official' Kara move instead of a glitch.

And why are they calling it SFIV if it doesn't even take place after SFIII??? "A New Beginning?" I somehow hope all this shit is fake.

[Burnsro]

Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-new-info-and-pictures-from-street-fighter-iv-leaked-58045.phtml) has an interesting write up about the Saving/Revenge system. Along with two pics of Ryu and Ken fighting.

Wow, they really outdid 1up's "big" reveal today. The picture of Ken and Ryu fighting looks like it's angled in a strange way.

"We will probably not see any SFIII characters."

No... Makoto...

"Supers are there (although they didn't decide yet if it will be like in SSF2T or SFIII), and now they've put another moves called Ultras. These makes your character throws a auto combo with tons of moves. It's like a custom combo ... except by the custom part."

Ultras sound really stupid.

[KayinNasaki]

No parries? Sweet. But I'll wait for EGM to confirm things before I go into the parry thread and start laughing.

[The Mullah]

i don't normally complain about game art etc but the two pics on the blog look unimpressive. kens face looks basic, his legs look like baloons in the hurricain kick pic. it's like powerstone or something. the first pic of ryu looked pretty nice, but the graphics are a real step down from those in the fmv trailer.

once again, i'm hoping it looks better in motion, but will people aside us get hyped about it?

[Stranger]

And why is Ken so ugly in that picture ?

[Dragonfave723]

If it take place between ST and SF3, Capcom could've named it "Street Fighter Beta", not SF4.

[The Epidemic]

Ken looks mad goofy in those pics..

[ViciousSLASH]

..I wish I hadn't seen those pics.

And Save/Revenge or whatever just sounds like an 'official' Kara move instead of a glitch.

And why are they calling it SFIV if it doesn't even take place after SFIII??? "A New Beginning?" I somehow hope all this shit is fake.

Yeah it should be called SF 4 Omega Edition First Strike.

I'm really digging the facial expressions even though I'm not blown away by the stills.

I hap hazardly approve of the WIP screens so far. I'm going to stick with the "Since it's Cell Shaded it's going to look way better in motion" theory.

Don't let us down Capcom. If SKill has played it, why isn't he here blabbing it up? They probably threatened him with the yakuza.

[Burnsro]

i don't normally complain about game art etc but the two pics on the blog look unimpressive. kens face looks basic, his legs look like baloons in the hurricain kick pic. it's like powerstone or something. the first pic of ryu looked pretty nice, but the graphics are a real step down from those in the fmv trailer.

once again, i'm hoping it looks better in motion, but will people aside us get hyped about it?

You're not the only one who thinks that it looks unimpressive. I really, really want to see this in motion because I don't want to except the fact that this game looks really goofy like in the still pictures of it.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

no parries BLAH
No makoto BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm kinda peaved about that..

[Stranger]

If it take place between ST and SF3, Capcom could've named it "Street Fighter Beta", not SF4.
If I remember right, GameTrailers said that Capcom said that Ryu and Ken are older than any SF before.

*shrug*

[Corner-Trap]

Those were some ugly screen shots(and I'm not even into graphics).

[ThePunisherXBL]

I find it hard to believe what some random blog says. Sheng Long? What the fuck? Come on now, people.

[Mowbs]

i was really hoping that ink-splashing shit would be in the game. fuck.

and yea, ken looks weird in those pics. they're just stills, though. from a stage we're familiar with as well.

[Autocrat1]

The fact that this is a prequel taints the "newness" of a Street Fighter sequel immensely.

Adding by subtraction 4TL

[str[e]ak]

the only good looking thing in those other screenshots was the hadouken. otherwise, eh.

[Mowbs]

who really gives a shit about when the story takes place?

[Gaijinblaze]

Original pic looks good. I did want sprites but what they did unveil could've been a million times worse than it actually is. Blog pics look really bad though, hopefully they're fake or just capped in the wrong place at the wrong time. Chun sucks but since she is a fan favourite her return is understandable. Hoping for Dudley, Urien, or Alex but I guess it's not important.

As long as the game is fun, not horribly broken, and feels like SF (physics, general smoothness, pacing, etc.) instead of 3D game on a 2D plane, I'll be happy.

I wonder if they will release a dedicated cabinet like Namco and Sega did for their recent games.

Not gonna touch Capcom BBS because I fear for my sanity.

[Burnsro]

You know what, I think this new information is fake. It adds a whole new layer of suckitude to SFIV. Takes place between SFII and SFIII. Why is it called IV then? And I'd like the story to progress further, ie. after SFIII. Ultra moves sound retarded, it's not a necessary addition to the game, Super Moves are fine as they are. Adding all these lame mechanics is stupid. Then a whole bunch of stuff we already know is going to be in the game like being on 360 and PS3 and being online to make it seem credible. Parrying is gone and the new system is called Saving OR Revenge? They don't know because it's made up? And then more stuff we already know like it being Chun Li's stage and saying Supers are still in.

I'm telling you now that these rumors are bogus.

[Stranger]

who really gives a shit about when the story takes place?
I do. Bring Guile back damn it ! :annoy:

[UltraDavid]

Sounds like this is completely abandoning Street Fighter III. In which case I say

YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

The screenshot where Ken is jump kicking Ryu makes me think that Ryu's character design is farther along. Ryu's face in that picture looks really good and really nicely detailed, his muscles are well lit and shadowed, and he generally has a lot more detail. By contrast, Ken's face is super basic, his muscles are weird looking and don't take lighting into account, and he doesn't even have fingers yet. So, I wouldn't worry about Ken looking dumb, this is clearly an unfinished version.

And yeah, I gotta say, I'm disappointed that the crazy ink-flying-around thing isn't how the game actually looks. Not sure what to think about saving/revenge and ultras, since we don't really know anything yet.

[DeathReaper47]

Some of that shit sounds really dumbed down. Auto-combos? Street Fighter don't do no Brutalities nigga.

[Burnsro]

I do. Bring Guile back damn it ! :annoy:
Yes, Guile is probably going to make a comeback. Hopefully Remy will then be regulated to someone else's ending scene, if he is in the game at all.

[UltraDavid]

Personally I hope they have a different grappler and don't bring back Zangief or Hugo (or even Haggar). Go go new characters!

[Sacr3D]

-It kind of looks 3D with these new ss... yeah I know its not but still.

-Ultra combos ala K.I ?

-Why isn't this after SF3 ?

-So I guess we're getting a remake of SF2 mixed with the beginning of SF3 ? Wouldn't it be funny to have SF2 and SF3 stages in 3D ... yeah good job capcom !

[Stranger]

Yes, Guile is probably going to make a comeback. Hopefully Remy will then be regulated to someone else's ending scene, if he is in the game at all.
I doubt that he's back. He's on the background ! (First picture)

[Bass X0]

i was really hoping that ink-splashing shit would be in the game.


Probably limited to super moves only.

the game doesn't impress me as much as the first time I saw the new Dead or Alive, Virtua Fighter or Tekken games on the PS3 and 360.

I'm sure the graphics are quite early and just mocked up from half finished code for the sake of these screenshots.

-Why isn't this after SF3 ?


do you really want to see a forty - fifty year old Chun-Li?

[Burnsro]

Not sure what to think about saving/revenge and ultras, since we don't really know anything yet.

I'll tell you what I think of them. Fake, made up rumors.

[Riot Guard]

Looks cheesy, I don't know why people are so hype about it after seeing the screenshot.

[f_man]

i did a google translate on their webpage:

It seems that nobody walks believing in our unique information about Street Fighter IV. We are putos with that. Very. To prove, run behind the gold and we were rewarded with two images INÉDITAS of the game. The ensuing from the top is the 1up, as you can see. The resulting low not do idea of where they are, but they are genuine. And sorry mess up the picture with the address of the site, but it was necessary. Note the expression of Ryu to take a tatsumakisenpukyyaku, and as the hadouken strip dust from the floor. Cool, eh?

[Burnsro]

I doubt that he's back. He's on the background ! (First picture)

That's not Guile. Why would Guile be regulated to being a bartender? He is an all American hero! AMERICA! **** YEAH!

[Gaijinblaze]

I still don't think anyone should refer to anything from either of those blogs until some concrete information comes along that agrees with it.

[Mowbs]

I still don't think anyone should refer to anything from either of those blogs until some concrete information comes along that agrees with it.
yup.

wait for the egm issue, folks. it may not offer much, but it'll offer more than what we or some blog knows.

[Corner-Trap]

who really gives a shit about when the story takes place?

I guess a lot of people do since this dictates which characters could possibly be in the game.

[Burnsro]

i did a google translate on their webpage:

It seems that nobody walks believing in our unique information about Street Fighter IV. We are putos with that. Very. To prove, run behind the gold and we were rewarded with two images INÉDITAS of the game. The ensuing from the top is the 1up, as you can see. The resulting low not do idea of where they are, but they are genuine. And sorry mess up the picture with the address of the site, but it was necessary. Note the expression of Ryu to take a tatsumakisenpukyyaku, and as the hadouken strip dust from the floor. Cool, eh?

I'm very putos with it being wrong. Because if it's right then this game has taken a nosedive in the direction they are choosing to take the series. And yes I enjoyed the INÉDITAS of the game. Yes, cool dust off of floor.

[parallaxscroll]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/mikew3st/sfivscreen008.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/mikew3st/sfivscreen001.jpg

[Stranger]

i did a google translate on their webpage:

It seems that nobody walks believing in our unique information about Street Fighter IV. We are putos with that. Very. To prove, run behind the gold and we were rewarded with two images INÉDITAS of the game. The ensuing from the top is the 1up, as you can see. The resulting low not do idea of where they are, but they are genuine. And sorry mess up the picture with the address of the site, but it was necessary. Note the expression of Ryu to take a tatsumakisenpukyyaku, and as the hadouken strip dust from the floor. Cool, eh?lol
I actually know Portuguese. He's not saying anything about the game at all.

[Bass X0]

being an avid follower of tiamat's storyline FAQ, I am more interested in the characters and their stories as if they were from some long running anime than the actual fighting itself.

[SteveTren]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/mikew3st/sfivscreen008.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/mikew3st/sfivscreen001.jpg

If those screen shots are real then they should rename it SF EX4. They indeed suck the big one. :sad:

[kz0060]

eeek. New pics, no sf3 characters, and pre-SF3 timeline kinda chopped off my balls.

[Helter Skelter]

I'm kinda there, I hope more of this is revealed in the future. (http://216.246.50.234/showpost.php?p=4390046&postcount=253)

Edited by Derek to fix the URL

[The Epidemic]

do you really want to see a forty - fifty year old Chun-Li?

hell yea! milf chun

[Biolink]

You know what, I think this new information is fake. It adds a whole new layer of suckitude to SFIV. Takes place between SFII and SFIII. Why is it called IV then?

Why was Devil May Cry 3,called Devil May Cry 3,even though it takes place before Devil May Cry 1&2?

God I wish I had premium...

[Bass X0]

If those screen shots are real then they should rename it SF EX4. They indeed suck the big one. :sad:

and much earlier in this topic, people were saying that true Street Fighter fans don't care about the graphics if the gameplay is good.

then when graphics have been shown, people bash the graphics.


lets face it, the game had an impossible task of reaching the dizzying heights that we hyped it up to before we had seen anything proper of the game.

[ezekial45]

I'm kinda there, I hope more of this is revealed in the future. (http://http://216.246.50.234/showpost.php?p=4390046&postcount=253)

link isn't working.

[goodm0urning]

Quiche's color fix... The chin fix over here: http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showthread.php?t=23375&page=9There's nothing wrong with Ryu's face in the original pic, and this "fix" takes from the stylized element and makes it look more like a generic drawing.

I still don't think anyone should refer to anything from either of those blogs until some concrete information comes along that agrees with it.They have two pics that appear to be legitimate. They could have made all the info up, but they have SOME kind of real source, so don't go all in on it.

[parallaxscroll]

The graphics aren't the way they are in the teaser that everyone watched.

thank God.


The game's still pretty, but it has nothing of that ink-splashing or anything. Art direction is interesting. Unlike all the other 3D fighters, SFIV is not meant to be photo realistic.


good!


Street Fighter IV runs at 60 frames per second.


yay!


Street Fighter IV will have online play.


okay.


The game takes place after Super Street Fighter II Turbo and before SFIII. The good news is that the character roster will be made of many old-school brawlers and some entirely new ones. There are two new girls on the list. We will probably not see any SFIII characters.

YES! YES! YES! YES !


The stage you saw at 1Up, if you didn't figure out, is Chun-Li's Stage from SF2.


Yeah baby!


The excellent Parry system form SFIII is gone.

exellent. I hate SFIII's gameplay.


The new system seems to be called Saving or Revenge (we're not sure about the name). We don't know exactly how it works, but it's built around cancels. And we do know we'll have another gauge to activate the Saving/Revenge stuff, besides the usual Super Gauge.

interesting.


Supers are there (although they didn't decide yet if it will be like in SSF2T or SFIII), and now they've put another moves called Ultras. These makes your character throws a auto combo with tons of moves. It's like a custom combo ... except by the custom part.

anything that's more like SFII or even SSF2T is better than SFIII.


Shen Long may appear in the game. We are NOT kidding.


April Fools?


The consoles are not decided yet, really. But, assuming that SFIV will have online play, we can obviously think of Xbox 360 and PS3 (duh). It's very likely that we'll see an arcade version without online mode too, and our sources told us that Capcom could put some test machines in Japan arcades in Q2 next year.

Arcade, Good!

[SteveTren]

and much earlier in this topic, people were saying that true Street Fighter fans don't care about the graphics if the gameplay is good.

then when graphics have been shown, people bash the graphics.


lets face it, the game had an impossible task of reaching the dizzying heights that we hyped it up to before we had seen anything proper of the game.

Very true. I guess just seeing SF characters rendered in cheesy 3d leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths. Hopefully the game play will rock.:wink:

[Dencore]

More screens

http://www.n4g.com/M/8/Images//90000/90832_med.jpg

http://www.n4g.com/M/8/Images//90000/90833_med.jpg

I'm not gonna lie but.....I think this looks like shit.

EDIT - Realized that they were already posted......oh well fuck it.

no one has even played or seen it in motion. Plus, the screen looks awesome, I think Ryu has never been so faithfully represented in 3d.

Whether you like the 2.5d representation or not, you have to admit that

1. The screen is impressive. I mean, look at Ryu's model...it really gives off the facade that he is to some degree hand-drawn.
2. The 3d graphics will attract new players which is what the fighting game scene REALLY needs right now.

I think the game looks like shit that's why I don't like it. I never mentioned a thing about gameplay (though I could but that's for another debate).

[Kamui]

I wouldn't worry about Ken's face, it looks like it's an early model or simply an awkward angle. From what I can tell, it looks like the models might be built to be extremely flexible for animation. Note that the back of Ryu's Gi billows up like it does in 3s while he's throwing the Hadouken. The look on Ryu's face while he's getting kicked is also really expressive. 3D fighting game models are rarely that expressive. If we're lucky, these are signs that the game will look pretty good moving. Exaggeration is the key to making this game look good.

[SteveTren]

More screens

http://www.n4g.com/M/8/Images//90000/90832_med.jpg

http://www.n4g.com/M/8/Images//90000/90833_med.jpg

I'm not gonna lie but.....I think this looks like shit.

EDIT - Realized that they were already posted......oh well fuck it.



I think the game looks like shit that's why I don't like it. I never mentioned a thing about gameplay (though I could but that's for another debate).

The funky angles of those screen shots are of concern, I would prefer straight on 2d style camera work. This is not looking good. Hopefully they are fake.

[epsilon_]

it does not look good to me, we'll see how it looks in motion/plays.

the action screens feel me leaving very underwhelmed though.

[Yeton]

If those screen shots are real then they should rename it SF EX4. They indeed suck the big one. :sad:

Sad but true, I got to agree. I was hoping those crazy ink splash sfx in the trailer would turn up too. To be honest, I'm hoping those last two pictures were fakes ... if they're not ... ouch!

[Burnsro]

Why was Devil May Cry 3,called Devil May Cry 3,even though it takes place before Devil May Cry 1&2?

Why are all Street Fighter games thus far in chronological order based on their title, even though based on their title they are in chronological order?

[RLP]

it looks 3-d to me, but fuck it, 2-d it is!

[Wantonx]

Wow, this gets my hopes up, 2.5D is fine, as long as it's not 3D.

One thing that bothers me, it's Ryu, if they are going to show his penis, it should be huge, he's the main character. It should shoot fucking fireballs....








Can't believe they gave him a penis... Chun better have nipples then, if they are going for realism, otherwise it's sexual discrimination.


This post captures my thoughts exactly :lol:
Except he also needs stubble

[Dencore]

The funky angles of those screen shots are of concern, I would prefer straight on 2d style camera work. This is not looking good. Hopefully they are fake.


Agreed.

EDIT - Am I the only one who's noticing the lack of well......good graphics?

[parallaxscroll]

Hopefully they are fake.


highly doubt it. they're 95% likely real.

[moo210]

Ultras sounds incredibly stupid, saving/revenge could possibly be good, except for having a separate bar. i really hope those are fake. i couldn't care less about the graphics

[Nokato]

OK, this is bad...I just looked at these "screens" and I laughed literally out loud. These have got to be fake. if they're not...I don't even know what to say anymore about this game.

Edit: The first one looks bad. The second, looks ok in comparison. I hope these aren't really shots. Maybe this game looks better in motion. Nonetheless I will presume these are fake until proven otherwise.

[parallaxscroll]

while I don't like some aspects of the graphics (Ken's face looks like dogpoo), I have more hope for this game than for any of the SFIII's

it's taking place BEFORE SFIII.

some of the old SFII gang are back

at least one of the SFII backgrounds, Chun Li's, has been re-imagined. not exactly how I want, but at least a SFII background is making a comeback.


it's still WAY FAR too early to tell if SF4 is gonna be any good or not. but going back to something that's more like SFII is what I wanted.

I'm not exactly thrilled about the 2.5D, the 3D polygonal characters, but at least they're better than EX shit.

now make it a classic, Capcom.

[The_Trigger]

Please let that crap be fake. That "Ultra" idea is the worst thing I've ever heard. So basically everybody will now have a "ranbu" super? Yuck.

[Endless]

I believe in Capcom

They believed in us, to make a SF4

I believe that this game will be good.


I'm hoping that those other 2 screens are fake.

[Dencore]

OK, this is bad...I just looked at these "screens" and I laughed literally out loud. These have got to be fake. if they're not...I don't even know what to say anymore about this game.

Word. Seriously this game looks like a joke. Now I remember why most devs. shy away from using 3D models from 2D gameplay. Because the 2D artstyle looks flatout retarded with 3D models and the animation looks even worse and makes you feel sick (battle fantasia or w/e the fuck it's called).

EDIT - Awkward I thought that the 2nd screen looked worse then the first.

And is it just me or could this pass as a Wii game. I mean seriously look at the textures.

Oh well it's like others have said, expect the least for this game so you don't get disappointed.

[cain[e]]

and this is where I take my leave and never come back until more OFFICIAL info has been announced. I bid you good day gentlemen.

[SteveTren]

OK, this is bad...I just looked at these "screens" and I laughed literally out loud. These have got to be fake. if they're not...I don't even know what to say anymore about this game.

Well, from the look of the camera angles it had better not be in game screen shots. Well, I guess is not fair to bash the game yet without seeing it in action but so far I'm not impressed.

[bill_rizer]

..I wish I hadn't seen those pics.

And Save/Revenge or whatever just sounds like an 'official' Kara move instead of a glitch.

And why are they calling it SFIV if it doesn't even take place after SFIII??? "A New Beginning?" I somehow hope all this shit is fake.

Ugh me too :sad:

I'd like to apologize to a mysterious person, everything you said is true, I guess the rest will be too.

I hope this animates like nothing seen before because the models dont look great at all.

This is looking more like SF2 in a 3D Homage, good or bad who knows yet.

DMC3 is called that because DMC2 was so shit they wanted people to forget it quick time.

I think peoples agruement is when you use a new number on you're title it means a true sequel, for example theirs no reason why capcom couldn't have called CVX, RE4 but it wasn't a true sequel, if that makes sense.

Edit: Oh and I forgot Ultras? I really hope they are mistaken with that info, that dont sound right at all.

[Radiantsilvergun3]

Yeah Never mind.

[quiche]

And is it just me or could this pass as a Wii game. I mean seriously look at the textures.After seeing the new screens, i was thinking just that.

Those shots look like butt. :sad:

...seriously.

[Burnsro]

Please let that crap be fake. That "Ultra" idea is the worst thing I've ever heard. So basically everybody will now have a "ranbu" super? Yuck.

I, too, hate this Ultra crap and I really hope that it is fake. Not only does it sound lame (What's better than Super? ULTRA! LOLOLOL!!11wwwwww) But also could take away the emphasis of actual combos.

[Nokato]

I'm just at a stand still now..hopefully those screens are fake, or there is some sort of explanation about the game. I'll play it out of curiosity it's just..those screens don't look like they match the game.

[SweetJohnnyV]

Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-new-info-and-pictures-from-street-fighter-iv-leaked-58045.phtml) has an interesting write up about the Saving/Revenge system. Along with two pics of Ryu and Ken fighting.

Hrm. Im not quite as thrilled with these screen shots. Also, what's up with the camera tilting around? :confused:

[CptMunta]

Hmmmmm...

Between SF2 and SF3

Wouldn't that be Street Fighter 2 Alpha/Zero?

I think people are overreacting a bit to the new pics. The pics taken don't exactly look like keyframes and seem to be inbetween moves. Also the newpics look oversaturated compared the higher quality original. Wait to see it moving I reckon.

The facial expressions remind me of the trailer quite a bit.

I think Shen Long being in it is a load of shit. More like akuma as a hidden boss or something. Or a flashback fight or training mode with Gouken and that's Reeeeaaallly stretching it.

[Dencore]

Well, from the look of the camera angles it had better not be in game screen shots. Well, I guess is not fair to bash the game yet without seeing it in action but so far I'm not impressed.

My thoughts exactly.

After seeing the new screens, i was thinking just that.

Those shots look like butt. :sad:

...seriously.

To make matter worse (for everyone in this thread for me) IGN said that a huge legendary franchise is going to be announced for the Wii soon.

If Capcom puts this game on the Wii this way and not sprite shaded I'd be pist. I mean the one console where 2D games (in a visual stance) actually sell well. Anyway I wouldn't be surprised, for some reason I look at this and think "Super Smash".

[MAGUS1234]

*puts hat and coat on*

*walks out*

[ViciousSLASH]

After seeing the new screens, i was thinking just that.

Those shots look like butt. :sad:

...seriously.

Like I said, it ain't no VF5.

:sad:

*puts hat and coat on*

*walks out*

lol

:sad:

[00000000]

I, for one, hope that all of the Destuctoid info is falseXcore. It don't sound good at all.

[vxnine]

everyone should start sending emails to capcom to tell them what we REALLY want.

[Enishi]

Wow...Ultras? Revenge? Soundin pretty shitty thus far.

Edit*

No Parries? Make it "Ultra" Shitty.

[SRKev]

1) Everyone needs to cool the fuck out. This game isn't coming out anytime soon, so the character models aren't final.

2) The 2 new screens are probably from the "Replay Cam" so that different angles can be shown.

3) The idea of "Ultras" makes me nauseous.:wasted:

[Leebee Link]

ryu in the one shot looks fantastic

otherwise meh.


but i don't like how it's taking place before SFIII.

i want post-oro training Ryu.

[Dencore]

Man the new EGM can't come soon enough.

[Bass X0]

its funny how people who like sprite based games call people impressed by 3d "graphics whores" but take away their precious sprites and they bitch like hell

how true...

[MAGUS1234]

I can just imagine eating one button wakeup 50% health Ughltra combos

sigh....

[goodm0urning]

The funky angles of those screen shots are of concern, I would prefer straight on 2d style camera work. This is not looking good. Hopefully they are fake.Chances are good that these are not shots of actual gameplay. Just demo shots, so we can see what they're doing with the graphics.

And seriously, compare the level of detail in Ryu's face to the lack of detail in Ken's face. Ken's model is obviously far from finished, so people ought to stop getting their pretty pink panties in a wad over it. Remember, this game is a LONG way off.

everyone should start sending emails to capcom to tell them what we REALLY want.God no. The game would be a fucking turd of indescribable proportions.

EDIT:

At least some of this Destructoid shit sounds very suspicious. Shen Long? Really? And I'm hoping that this auto-combo thing turns out to be bunk as well.

Beyond that, it looks like they're on a reasonably good track so far. Now, here's looking forward to the next big update, and the subsequent deluge of awful posts on SRK.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

If they were doing 3d, they should have at least aimed for slightly more realstic models.

[Henaki]

If they were doing 3d, they should have at least aimed for slightly more realstic models.

why would a game known for cartoony graphics aim for a realistic theme?

[Dencore]

everyone should start sending emails to capcom to tell them what we REALLY want.

To bad that the Fighting Game Community can't agree on shit.

[Keits]

If they were doing 3d, they should have at least aimed for slightly more realstic models.

Yeah! Realistic guys with stretching arms and fireballs coming out of their hands! :rolleyes:

[Cascade]

I don't see what's so bad about the graphics, the screen shots. I wouldn't be surprised if capcom all stars was canceled by this mentality of bias. What's wrong with something different or adapting to something new? Be logical.

[ringopan]

my reaction after seeing first screenshot was "blah this looks weird." then after the simple chin fix, i thought "hey this actually looks like a hand drawn ryu in 3d... pretty awesome!".

then i saw the latest 2 screenshots and just threw up. that fireball looks like some final fantasy spell and ken looks like a retard.

the art style from the trailer was a lot nicer. if they could just remove the some of the excessive ink splash effects, and use those same models from the trailer in the actual game, that would be really cool.

[Bass X0]

Yeah! Realistic guys with stretching arms and fireballs coming out of their hands! :rolleyes:

So as realistic as Jinpachi is.

[ViciousSLASH]

Chances are good that these are not shots of actual gameplay. Just demo shots, so we can see what they're doing with the graphics.

And seriously, compare the level of detail in Ryu's face to the lack of detail in Ken's face. Ken's model is obviously far from finished, so people ought to stop getting their pretty pink panties in a wad over it. Remember, this game is a LONG way off.

God no. The game would be a fucking turd of indescribable proportions.

Yeah, that shot of Ryu's face is like a beacon of hope for me.

I'm thinking of animation on the level that was in the trailer. If they can achieve that while staying with the whole Ikeno/Akiman painting graphics scheme and really up the graphic texture/detail, the game will look gorgeous.

I hope the game comes out in Nov-Dec 2008 and not a month earlier.

I will feel a wave of relief if in the EGM article they have a "These screens are from a VERY early incomplete build of the game. Expect the final product to look extremely different and much more polished"

[XenoKaze]

The only thing i'm worried about is the gameplay i give a fuck what it looks like and these screen shots look like gameplay = SHIT! EX style

[Lazy Foo']

Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-new-info-and-pictures-from-street-fighter-iv-leaked-58045.phtml)
Shen Long may appear in the game. We are NOT kidding.

How does that not scream bullshit?

[scum gale 88]

Can't believe they gave him a penis... Chun better have nipples then, if they are going for realism, otherwise it's sexual discrimination.
its japan, chun-li will have a huge cock.

IM CALLING IT

[Dencore]

OMGZ11!!!11 The Utrza Megatoonz!!111!Marvel vs. Capcom 3 confirmeded!111!!!

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/TommyEOL/SFIVcopy.jpg

[Allosaurus]

Oh man this fourm is one big LOL-fest.

Game looks good so far.

[VangardB]

I dunno, looks good to me. This whole thread is starting to remind me of when Wind Waker showed it's first screens, everyone thought it looked like crap....and then everyone saw it in motion...

[catchafire]

It looks alright. Will have to wait until there's actual clear ingame shots before I make judgement...

[Sacr3D]

The only thing i'm worried about is the gameplay i give a fuck what it looks like and these screen shots look like gameplay = SHIT! EX style

Exactly. EXACTLY.

[Kamui]

The people commenting and worrying about the camera angle these shots were taken at are retarded. They were most likely taken in some sort of event mode. 1up has already said the game plays like a 2D fighter. They were taken from those angles in an attempt to add interest, since static side view 3D games aren't very interesting to look at.

Also, I understand that Ken's face looks retarded, but lets be reasonable, these are leaked screens. It's completely possible we were never supposed to see them. If for whatever reason Ken's face isn't finished, and these shots were dumped online when they weren't supposed to be, we're getting a bad impression of something that won't look like this. Chances are they're just shots that were used in the December issue of EGM though.

To people that are hoping that these shots are fake, no chance in hell. That's pretty much an impossibility considering their quality.

[ringopan]

are top japanese players having any input on the design of the game? i know bas and nuki (among others) were involved with previous capcom fighting games. hopefully if they are involved, then traditional 2d sf gameplay will be faithfully recreated.

[Kamui]

Seconded. People are jumping the gun way too early based on very little.

I dunno, looks good to me. This whole thread is starting to remind me of when Wind Waker showed it's first screens, everyone thought it looked like crap....and then everyone saw it in motion...

[Cody Travers]

This means I need to get a new issue of EGM. Damn the last time I picked up a issue of EGM was 1997.

Now all I need is cody needs to be confirmed

[R_T_S_D]

The shots are real for sure, but we SERIOUSLY need to call into question the claims made about the gameplay. Only reason being is the Sheng Long comment. Sheng long being in the game is IMPOSSIBLE unless this is some kind of incredably stupid easter egg bull shit that Capcom's trying to pull, anyone who knows the story behind Sheng Long (I assumed all of SRK) would know this.

[A_SEXY_NERD]

There is no parry WTF!!!! :(

[BlodiaVulcan5]

wow, his trouser dragon must be level 3 already. Zangeif's piece is gonna be epic. I LIKE WHERE THIS GAME IS GOING. /yes homo

[VangardB]

There is no parry YAY!!!! :(

Fixed...

[Digitalbooty]

Ryu looks great. you can tell it's early. Ken is not finished. There's no way any professional would let that slide. Everyone chill. It's gonna look better than that.

[Kamui]

Also seconded. Nine times out of ten, fans have no clue what they're talking about. It's unfortunate that the most outspoken and verbal fans are often the most incorrect.


God no. The game would be a fucking turd of indescribable proportions.

[quiche]

http://i7.tinypic.com/87i58ar.jpg

...seriously.

[SweetJohnnyV]

Yeah! Realistic guys with stretching arms and fireballs coming out of their hands! :rolleyes:

I dunno. I thought these models looked pretty good:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/capcom/chun+li-and-ken-in-3d-330064.php

[goodm0urning]

I dunno. I thought these models looked pretty good:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/capcom/chun+li-and-ken-in-3d-330064.phpSF4 Ryu looks way better though. The whole stylized hand-drawn look. These models are definitely high quality, but they're generic. Aside from the fact that they're Ken and Chun Li, there's nothing uniquely Street Fighter about them.

[Dencore]

I dunno. I thought these models looked pretty good:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/capcom/chun+li-and-ken-in-3d-330064.php

........I'm starting to become appreciative of what Capcom has done with this games graphics.

[jhferry]

PRESS RELEASE

Capcom®, a leading worldwide developer and publisher of video games, today officially announced development of Street Fighter™ IV, the next iteration of the genre-establishing fighting game series. This marks the first new entry announced in nearly eight years, following the acclaimed Street Fighter III Third Strike.

In its amazing twenty year history, Street Fighter has revolutionized the fighting genre and created a global legacy like no other. Few details have been released on the new game, outside of a heart-pounding preview trailer that set the gaming community on fire when it was released in October on the Official website, StreetFighterWorld.com.

Capcom is proud to announce the return of four classic “World Warriors” in Street Fighter IV: returning favourites Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, and Dhalsim. The characters and environments are rendered in stylized 3D computer graphics (CG), while the game is played in the classic Street Fighter 2D perspective with additional 3D camera flourishes. The traditional six-button controls for the game will return, with a host of new special moves and features integrated into the input system. Mixing tried-and-true classic moves and techniques with all-new, never-before-seen gameplay systems, Street Fighter 4 brings a brand new fighting game to fans the world over.

Everything that made the legendary Street Fighter II a hit in arcades, living rooms and dormitories all over the world has been brought to bear here, with even more surprises. With the inclusion of Capcom's latest advancements in new generation technology, Street Fighter IV promises to deliver an extraordinary experience that will re-introduce the world to the time-honoured art of virtual martial arts.

Features:

2D/3D fighting environments
Classic Street Fighter characters re-imagined for a new generation of gamers
New special moves that go beyond any Street Fighter fan's wildest imagination
Amazing locations never seen before in a Street Fighter game
New gameplay elements provide new challenges for both newcomers and the most seasoned Street Fighter pro.



That line right there officially makes this game bullshit for me.

[RLP]

i'm dissapointed if what destructoid said is true.

[Lazy Foo']

That line right there officially makes this game bullshit for me.

link for those who don't want to look it up:
http://press.capcom.com/release.asp?i=59

[Dencore]

. The characters and environments are rendered in stylized 3D computer graphics (CG), while the game is played in the classic Street Fighter 2D perspective with additional 3D camera flourishes. .

:rofl: WTF?