Costumes mock VT shootings

[akumatrunigga]

Well this is sad. What makes it ironic is the fact that one of the people had enough balls to be interviewed by this guy from cnn. Man this guy is pissed.

VT mock Interview Video (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2007/12/13/sanchez.costume.outrage.cnn)

[YellowS4]

Fucken terrible.

[Dios <-X->]

He wont survive the end of the year, especially if he lives close to VT i'd think. say bye bye to whatever friends you had left :[

[Satomiblood]

Tasteless but should we be surprised?

[tajiri]

why so serious?

o_O

[Darko]

Why can't people just suck it up and apologize. Sure the families were never meant to see that, and its a running gag at some halloween party. Shit got out just apologize you stupid fuck. Its not degrading you in any way.

[i C o N]

lolmad bye

[randomsuper]

what a douche. i like how he wants to not compromise his integrity by apologizing for poking fun at something that was abviously hurtful to a lot of people. hopefully the consequences of his actions outwiegh his integrity and he ends up getting fucked in life. shit like this doesn't go away very easily.

[Darkstalker]

If it was in a personal context with other people that're cool with the situation, I don't see a problem with it.

Course, since it leaked out... =\

[rcaido]

The guy seem kinda flaming homo to me...Anyway what's the big deal, dude wears a stupid ass costume...It offends people, so what...Its obvious this guys is an attention homo, why give him what he wants...

Anyway that one chick was kinda hot...

[randomsuper]

If it was in a personal context with other people that're cool with the situation, I don't see a problem with it.

Course, since it leaked out... =\

it's pretty fucked up regardless, but since it leaked out and obviously hit a chord with people, he should have the balls to apologize to those he offended. by attempting to stand up for his beliefs, he just comes off like an asshole, which does nothing but cause more grief. again, his stance on this matter is ridiculous, and i guarantee he wouldn't pull that shit if he had to face the families of the people who got murdered or people who were actually there and had to go through that. sure, he has the right to do what he did and be a faggot about it, but it doesn't mean that he's right for doing it.

[thurst]

me thinks you guys are becoming soft.

the only thing that guy needs to apologize for his ridiculously gay voice. that o'reilly knockoff comes off looking like a dolt in the interview.

"so you want me to insincerely apologie?"
"yes."

[randomsuper]

yeah, the gay voice just makes me dislike him that much more.

[Monte]

when will people learn not to put pics of themselves acting like a jackass on the internet? I wish they would have had one of the family members from the VT shootings confront the guy on the show.

[akumatrunigga]

ill admit that he was douche talking like that. The cnn interviewer was trying a bit too hard to understand and relate. It was on his facebook page like the interviewer said. It would be more interesting if the chick was on there as well. I wonder did they attempted to get a hold of her. I bet that bitch chickened out cuz she knew the deal. Guess what you two now that this video is forever i wonder how your job interviews will look once you graduate from penn state?

[bohdi]

people do not have the right to not be offended

[axeman61]

I love this, because I know it will NOT end well.

You remember the myspace mom who allegedly helped her daughter bully a bipolar girl into killing herself? Well, no matter how you feel about the suicide itself, that mom was catching shit for it starting back when it happened in '06. Still catching shit today, although she denies she had anything to do with the bullying.

So with this jackass broadcasting his douchery, I know his life is going to suck a little for at least the next year. More if he drags this out.

Really, is an apology that hard? You don't have to fucking mean it if you didn't mean for the pics to get out in the first place.

[Holy Knight]

Fucking stupid.

[Sunn O)))]

I remember some guy wearing a Steve Irwin costume a few months after he was killed, that seemed to blow off pretty quick. Is this really that much different?

EDIT: I do like the guy's suit though.

[randomsuper]

people do not have the right to not be offended

not legally, no, which is why i said he has the right to do what he did, but it doesn't make it right, at least from a moral stand point. the bottom line is he's not protecting civil liberties or his honor or whatever and it's obvious he's just a little bitch who thought it would be funny and isn't happy now that his ass is on a skillet and people are grilling him for his bullshit. it wasn't a decent thing to do in the first place, he admitted it was not tasteful and knows people are outraged, so his response is to be a hardass. all he's doing is pissing people off and quite possibly putting a dent in his future. it's just stupid.

[Asian Mike]

white people.:shake:

[epp1e]

I hope they find the guy chopped up into pieces, Bay Harbor Butcher style & the girl in a pool of her own blood at the bottom of a staircase.

[Syxx573]

better think twice of dressing up as a ganster or samurai next year since they've killed millions of people and that's not funny. also dracula

[MrBlank]

id like to see him dress up as osama and run around with a toy gun down the streets.

[Episode_667]

I don't get the line of questioning from the CNN anchor...he says that the problem isn't that the guy wore the costume or that it was tastes, the problem is that the photos were spread to a wider audience. Huh? Isn't the root issue that he and his friend *chose* to wear these costumes? And what's with the anchor not letting the guy finish any of his sentences? Although towards the end of the video the guy does come off as a cold jerk - as others have said, just put out the apology! Just something simple as common courtesy.

Although, the continued homophobia on SRK saddens me.

[Storming Flower]

white people.:shake:

only white people.

This reminds me of the "Don't taze me bro" guy. They are college kids who just want to prove how smart they are, and they speak very well, yet they lack common sense. The guy just wouldn't apologize.

[Ne0phyte]

me thinks you guys are becoming soft.

the only thing that guy needs to apologize for his ridiculously gay voice. that o'reilly knockoff comes off looking like a dolt in the interview.

"so you want me to insincerely apologie?"
"yes."
People tend to apologize for things they do that directly hurt other people. Even if it's insincere, if that's what will make grieving people feel better then just fucking do it.

[Shaft Agent]

me thinks you guys are becoming soft. truth. i understand this obviously isn't the popular stance-but that fruity bastard is down for the cause. that CNN douche was like "America wants you to apologize!" and the dude was like "camera man, zoom in on my face-FUK YO SHIT, AMURIKA" honestly, why the hell should he apologize for that? he had to spend money to look like that- he obviously deemed it a worthy endeavor.

and fake-ass apologies DO compromise his (as well as everyone's) integrity. some of you guys are missing the point. basically he's saying he doesn't give a fuck about V-Tech; but there are things that he feels strongly about that he could give an apology for. apologizing for something he doesn't feel sorry for makes his word worth less; so when he has something he really wants to apologize for, it will hold merit. that's why he didn't apologize.

BUT, whatever other shit he did on the net and whoever put the pictures on internet needs their ass kicked. don't put shit on a public forum if you don't want it to get reviewed by the public- especially corporate entities like social networking sites. when people do distasteful things like that it makes them look bad, and corporations don't take too kindly of that.

i don't even know why i posted this. no one's gonna read it... :sad:

[Episode_667]

truth. i understand this obviously isn't the popular stance-but that fruity bastard is down for the cause. that CNN douche was like "America wants you to apologize!" and the dude was like "camera man, zoom in on my face-FUK YO SHIT, AMURIKA" honestly, why the hell should he apologize for that? he had to spend money to look like that- he obviously deemed it a worthy endeavor.

and fake-ass apologies DO compromise his (as well as everyone's) integrity. some of you guys are missing the point. basically he's saying he doesn't give a fuck about V-Tech; but there are things that he feels strongly about that he could give an apology for. apologizing for something he doesn't feel sorry for makes his word worth less; so when he has something he really wants to apologize for, it will will hold merit. that's why he didn't apologize.

BUT, whatever other shit he did on the net and whoever put the pictures on internet needs their ass kicked. don't put shit on a public forum if you don't want it to get reviewed by the public- especially corporate entities like social networking sites. when people do distasteful things like that it makes them look bad, and corporations don't take too kindly of that.

i don't even know why i posted this. no one's gonna read it... :sad:

I read it, and I agree. The University I attend had an ad campaign earlier this year informing people to be careful of what they put online, as it might affect their future job or academic prospects. I'm still amazed as to how many people have public profiles on FaceBook, and how many people post photo albums that everyone can see.

[Figcoinc]

That guy is most certainly a cock-gobbling butt-weasel.

[thurst]

for a forum full of people that like to joke about throwing bitches down stairs the first chance they get you guys are sure acting like bunch of pussies over a harmless joke/costume.

who's worse, the kids that dress up as VT victims at their private party in pennsylvania and post the pics online so their friends can see, or the network that decides "hey lets put this shit on the news so the whole country (including VT families) can see this!"?

[Satomiblood]

I don't get the line of questioning from the CNN anchor...he says that the problem isn't that the guy wore the costume or that it was tastes, the problem is that the photos were spread to a wider audience. Huh? Isn't the root issue that he and his friend *chose* to wear these costumes?

I'm sure plenty of parodies have been made behind closed doors about this and other mass shootings in recent memory. If this had occured and the photos weren't leaked, no one (at least outside of that group of kids) would've found out and this wouldn't have been an issue at all. Yes, it's a tasteless act but broadcasting it is what has the general public irate.

[randomsuper]

i think the blame belongs with the people who did it, not the media. if it's a despicable act, it's despicable whether in private or public.

[The Damned]

for a forum full of people that like to joke about throwing bitches down stairs the first chance they get you guys are sure acting like bunch of pussies over a harmless joke/costume.

Seriously.

Although, I guess some of us like to pretend we have "morals" some of the time; I'm sure a lot of us dressed up like "normal people" for Halloween as well.

Basically, anything I wanted to say Shaft Agent said first.

:lol: at people who think that apologizing, especially insincerely, would be the correct way to "fix" anything. He'll probably be ostracized for a while regardless and, ironically, probably moreso if he were actually "apologetic".

"It's not as if human beings are rational."[/Rashomon]

who's worse, the kids that dress up as VT victims at their private party in pennsylvania and post the pics online so their friends can see, or the network that decides "hey lets put this shit on the news so the whole country (including VT families) can see this!"?

"Whose" and the latter.

But the Internet is relatively difficult to control and it makes me wonder why the picture was put in first place, especially since more and more (non-college) people have access to Facebook or whatever.

Meh.


And to randomsuper, while this is true in a lot of cases (including this one most likely), the clip shows why the media is also retarded (if not moreso) nowadays.

[Alex]

Tasteless but should we be surprised?

absolutly not. ANyone with internet can tell you ALOT of shit goes down in this world, alot of if far worse then this. Another news flash is that theres also a lot of people that have different views and beliefs then us, some of them dont even share the same sence of humour as me (like this guy).

What he did wasnt funny at all. I diddnt even have to click the link to know it was something i diddnt want to watch. Its rediculas that some people tyhink he should apoligise when no one forced you to watch or listen.

I dont have that kind of spare time to watch random internet videos and go "OMG i cant believe this person i never met said that?! he best say hes sorry" *chomps chomps* (im eating funyuns)

[Will Gotti]

He sounded like a gay D&D obsessed asshole. His only discourse is that's "it's a controversial distasteful type of tradition..." Some of these college kids are getting stupider and stupider and they're studying to be our next lawyers, doctors, historians, you name it.

I hate his type. The ones who have a motherfucking answer for every motherfucking thing and then want to argue when they're clearly wrong by societies standards. If he was my kid he'd get kicked in his chest every time shit like this went down for being a jackass. He's type of person who seems like he was encouraged to "stand up for what he believes in" but never learned when to digress or when to shut his bitchass mouth. I'd teach that sumbitch manners and proper rhetoric after drop kicking him in his solar plexus.

[Silentness!]

for a forum full of people that like to joke about throwing bitches down stairs the first chance they get you guys are sure acting like bunch of pussies over a harmless joke/costume.

who's worse, the kids that dress up as VT victims at their private party in pennsylvania and post the pics online so their friends can see, or the network that decides "hey lets put this shit on the news so the whole country (including VT families) can see this!"?

We joke about throwing bitches down stairs, but do we REALLY mean it?
_____
Dressing up as a VT victim is as lame as you can get...

It's like dressing up as a klansmen and going into Compton expecting a couple laughs.

PS: that white guy takes it up the ass or has WoW buddies.

[P. Gorath]

I think it's a natural reaction to the media circus that took place after the shootings. If anything it is commentary on that and not the shootings themself.

[-=KOH=-]

Think about all the other shit people do every day, seriously, I think cnn should apologize for making things bigger than they already were, his bullshit questions were basically forcing the guy to look like an asshole on tv, public defamation or harmless photos that someone posted online, it's just media, get the fuck over it.

They made you watch, so they won. gguninstall

[axeman61]

"Whose" and the latter.


I'm appalled...

"Whose" is possessive. "Who's" is the contraction of "who is." Who is worse...

Not that I agree with any of this "at least he's standing tall about his rights" BS anyway. Protecting your rights should only be commended when you're right. We've all made stupid/unwise decisions we wouldn't defend now. But one or two had some real heart and purpose behind them. They weren't about civil rights, but the same logic applies. What the hell is there to defend here? To make yourself look like even more of a douche about? To stand up for? Was it worth it? Does some "Mr. Claw" bad guy win if this dude backs down from defending these costumes? No. Dude just defended this shit because the fact that it was his decision to wear the costumes somehow makes it right in his mind. That's the only logical conclusion.

[bohdi]

not legally, no, which is why i said he has the right to do what he did, but it doesn't make it right, at least from a moral stand point. the bottom line is he's not protecting civil liberties or his honor or whatever and it's obvious he's just a little bitch who thought it would be funny and isn't happy now that his ass is on a skillet and people are grilling him for his bullshit. it wasn't a decent thing to do in the first place, he admitted it was not tasteful and knows people are outraged, so his response is to be a hardass. all he's doing is pissing people off and quite possibly putting a dent in his future. it's just stupid.

i completely agree that this guy is stupid and it was not morally right. however, i stand by people not having the right to not be offended because you gotta take the good with the bad in the argument and there's nothing i hate more than the exaggerated political correctness occurring right now.

[Will Gotti]

Crap

People do shit everyday even that CNN guy admitted he probably did much worse but being part of the media personnel or not he was adult enough to say yea I did it and it was stupid. Telling people to just get over it and the media gotchu is adolescent and ignoring the bigger picture.

Are people this bored or unchallenged that they have to be controversial on purpose knowing what can happen in a digital age? Nothing is safe these days, privacy included. I mean it's not like we're living in the 20's with no internet and where we don't have to worry about someone running across something like this. If they wanted to share pictures they could have showed friends even though that never goes well either with someone stealing shit and posting it anyways. It's just all stupid IMO.

I wonder if when someone dies and people like this shameless kid becomes their surgeon, will they mimic the reaction of the person dying after death and then when word gets out on what they did tell the family, it was just a joke get over it your father/husband is dead anyways.

[ViciousSLASH]

All he had to do was give out a generic press statement apology.

He didn't, and he came off as a jerk. It didn't help that he sounded like Kermit the Frogs nancy brother.

Previledged white kids just do stupid stuff. It's not as "horrible" as you guys are making it out to be. At least they didn't have an Azn kid there in the picture shooting them.

At least the kid didn't just throw out a meaningless apology and gave a reason for it. Stupid, yes, but I mean that made a little sense.

College kids just love the facebook, Facebook is serious business.

[pherai]

Normally I'd defend a persons right to do what they like in a private setting, no matter how tasteless it may be, but some of you are ignoring the fact that he agreed to appear on national television. If he doesn't want to apologize, that's fine, but getting on national tv to make it perfectly clear you don't want to apologize is equivalent to spitting in the face of the people expecting the apology.

[akumatrunigga]

white people.:shake:

only white people.

This reminds me of the "Don't taze me bro" guy. They are college kids who just want to prove how smart they are, and they speak very well, yet they lack common sense. The guy just wouldn't apologize.
lets not make this thread it shouldnt be ok!
truth. i understand this obviously isn't the popular stance-but that fruity bastard is down for the cause. that CNN douche was like "America wants you to apologize!" and the dude was like "camera man, zoom in on my face-FUK YO SHIT, AMURIKA" honestly, why the hell should he apologize for that? he had to spend money to look like that- he obviously deemed it a worthy endeavor.

and fake-ass apologies DO compromise his (as well as everyone's) integrity. some of you guys are missing the point. basically he's saying he doesn't give a fuck about V-Tech; but there are things that he feels strongly about that he could give an apology for. apologizing for something he doesn't feel sorry for makes his word worth less; so when he has something he really wants to apologize for, it will hold merit. that's why he didn't apologize.

BUT, whatever other shit he did on the net and whoever put the pictures on internet needs their ass kicked. don't put shit on a public forum if you don't want it to get reviewed by the public- especially corporate entities like social networking sites. when people do distasteful things like that it makes them look bad, and corporations don't take too kindly of that.

i don't even know why i posted this. no one's gonna read it... :sad:
i do agree it was funny of how he was very rude to the "artist" bad publicity is any type right.
absolutly not. ANyone with internet can tell you ALOT of shit goes down in this world, alot of if far worse then this. Another news flash is that theres also a lot of people that have different views and beliefs then us, some of them dont even share the same sence of humour as me (like this guy).

What he did wasnt funny at all. I diddnt even have to click the link to know it was something i diddnt want to watch. Its rediculas that some people tyhink he should apoligise when no one forced you to watch or listen.

I dont have that kind of spare time to watch random internet videos and go "OMG i cant believe this person i never met said that?! he best say hes sorry" *chomps chomps* (im eating funyuns)
well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. :lol: anyway i happend to come across it when i was planning to view the video of President Bush talking about the issues of roids in baseball.
He sounded like a gay D&D obsessed asshole. His only discourse is that's "it's a controversial distasteful type of tradition..." Some of these college kids are getting stupider and stupider and they're studying to be our next lawyers, doctors, historians, you name it.

I hate his type. The ones who have a motherfucking answer for every motherfucking thing and then want to argue when they're clearly wrong by societies standards. If he was my kid he'd get kicked in his chest every time shit like this went down for being a jackass. He's type of person who seems like he was encouraged to "stand up for what he believes in" but never learned when to digress or when to shut his bitchass mouth. I'd teach that sumbitch manners and proper rhetoric after drop kicking him in his solar plexus.
yeah you are right on the money there. Still I want someone to get the chick on there and they talk to her like that so she can cry on tv. Now that would be sweet. (yeah it is a bit harsh but i didnt pose like a :clown: like these 2) Hey what about the photographer. where is this guy?

Normally I'd defend a persons right to do what they like in a private setting, no matter how tasteless it may be, but some of you are ignoring the fact that he agreed to appear on national television. If he doesn't want to apologize, that's fine, but getting on national tv to make it perfectly clear you don't want to apologize is equivalent to spitting in the face of the people expecting the apology.
i cant imagine the faces of some of victims families. :wtf: :nunchuck:

[Shukuda]

Would you expect me to apologize for something that I said behind your back because you accidently overheard it? Hmmmm....

[matrix9280]

I don't care. I thought it was funny.

[axeman61]

The costumes or the retard defending himself?

[matrix9280]

The costumes or the retard defending himself?

Both.:rofl:

[white shadow]

People do shit everyday even that CNN guy admitted he probably did much worse but being part of the media personnel or not he was adult enough to say yea I did it and it was stupid. Telling people to just get over it and the media gotchu is adolescent and ignoring the bigger picture.

Are people this bored or unchallenged that they have to be controversial on purpose knowing what can happen in a digital age? Nothing is safe these days, privacy included. I mean it's not like we're living in the 20's with no internet and where we don't have to worry about someone running across something like this. If they wanted to share pictures they could have showed friends even though that never goes well either with someone stealing shit and posting it anyways. It's just all stupid IMO.

I wonder if when someone dies and people like this shameless kid becomes their surgeon, will they mimic the reaction of the person dying after death and then when word gets out on what they did tell the family, it was just a joke get over it your father/husband is dead anyways.


Normally I'd defend a persons right to do what they like in a private setting, no matter how tasteless it may be, but some of you are ignoring the fact that he agreed to appear on national television. If he doesn't want to apologize, that's fine, but getting on national tv to make it perfectly clear you don't want to apologize is equivalent to spitting in the face of the people expecting the apology.

I guess I don't have to reiterate these points. When people decide to incite something that they know will have consequences, they shouldn't be shocked when people get offended. The sad part is that this guy isn't a dummy as we might want feel, he's fully aware of what he is doing (as stated by him about his future employment problems) but feels a personal need to subvert any notion of ethics with his pseudo-logical sophist arguments. He clearly intends on stroking his own ego and gain some kind of infamy, the other kind of "famous."

However, I do feel that he shouldn't apologize if he doesn't feel the need, but something tells me that he'll get his just desserts.

[i C o N]

Where can I get these costumes? Gettin ready for next year

[axeman61]

The sad part is that this guy isn't a dummy as we might want feel, he's fully aware of what he is doing (as stated by him about his future employment problems) but feels a personal need to subvert any notion of ethics with his pseudo-logical sophist arguments. He clearly intends on stroking his own ego and gain some kind of infamy, the other kind of "famous."

However, I do feel that he shouldn't apologize if he doesn't feel the need, but something tells me that when he'll get his just desserts.

Oh. The outcome is nicer when you look at it this way. In a weird way, I kind of hope the media lets him speak and dig himself down a little more. You can get rid of fame, but infamy stains you until you die. This dude will have fun in life if he keeps this stupidity up.

[guado]

People tend to apologize for things they do that directly hurt other people. Even if it's insincere, if that's what will make grieving people feel better then just fucking do it.

nah son FUCK THAT. im proud of the man for standing his ground, even though it was very distasteful, people are pussies now adays. Anytime anybody does something insulting, and its broadcasted in the media, that person is always bullied into apologizing, even though obviously it isnt sincere. Though the guy might be a jackass and he might have alterior motives for doing what he did, his point is very valid

[insomnotek]

hate the fucker

alot.

[axeman61]

nah son FUCK THAT. im proud of the man for standing his ground, even though it was very distasteful, people are pussies now adays. Anytime anybody does something insulting, and its broadcasted in the media, that person is always bullied into apologizing, even though obviously it isnt sincere. Though the guy might be a jackass and he might have alterior motives for doing what he did, his point is very valid

His point is bullshit. His apology, right now, wouldn't mean anything because of what he was saying before. If he had said that it was just him and his friends at a private party and he didn't mean for the pics to get out like they did, an insincere apology would have still gone a long way. But he said V-Tech students were living in an ivory tower and other stupid things.

[Shaft Agent]

People do shit everyday even that CNN guy admitted he probably did much worse but being part of the media personnel or not he was adult enough to say yea I did it and it was stupid. Telling people to just get over it and the media gotchu is adolescent and ignoring the bigger picture.but where is the line?

(stupid hypothetical coming up)

what if CNN got on SRK and read the Crazy Story Thread and decided to interview you personally on one of your stories? what if they said some shit like "what you said to Mashonda in 10th grade on the school bus is so despicable, i want you to apologize to everyone that has ever been sexually harassed." would you apologize or would you tell CNN to go kick rocks because it's none of their business what went on between you and Mashonda? don't forget they are making money off of berating you and acting like they are your moral compass. (also, plz dun hert me :sweat: )

Normally I'd defend a persons right to do what they like in a private setting, no matter how tasteless it may be, but some of you are ignoring the fact that he agreed to appear on national television. If he doesn't want to apologize, that's fine, but getting on national tv to make it perfectly clear you don't want to apologize is equivalent to spitting in the face of the people expecting the apology.oh, there's no doubt that this guy is a complete dipshit, and i'm not praising his actions at all. he had to go on the show though, just to make sure that everybody knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he doesn't give a fuck about V-Tech and he doesn't give a fuck about people that give a fuck about V-Tech. he didn't trust the news to get his point across mainly because the news will pervert his message.

I don't care. I thought it was funny.which is part of the problem. not that you found it funny; but that people don't seem to forget that ALL comedy can be considered tasteless because ALL comedy is at someone's expense. i can choose not to laugh at their costumes (and i do choose not to laugh. it's a lame joke, just like every college party i've ever been to), but i can't get appalled over it like some people feel they should be because comedy wise- either ALL of it is funny or NONE of it is. picking and choosing is hypocrisy.

[orochizoolander]

nah son FUCK THAT. im proud of the man for standing his ground, even though it was very distasteful, people are pussies now adays. Anytime anybody does something insulting, and its broadcasted in the media, that person is always bullied into apologizing, even though obviously it isnt sincere. Though the guy might be a jackass and he might have alterior motives for doing what he did, his point is very valid



Completely agreed though i personally think the guy is a straightup inconsiderate asshole...actually he would make a great poster on GD:rofl:

White ppl do stupid shit all the time n this time it just happened to be posted on facebook whether intentional or not it happened and the victims familes/loved onse are offended that someone could poke fun at a school shooting. He's a Dbag with a capital D but i'm glad he was honest bout not being sincere cuz if a fakeas apology helps u cope with losing a loved one in a school shooting then u have some security issues to workout. Lets all take solace in the fact that he's never gonna get a job and he'l be hated more then the guy who caught the ball at the redsox game so he'l always be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.







Oh yeah and to the interviwer: YOU MAD:rofl::rofl::rofl:

He was trying to appear all understanding saying shit like "i've done stupid things i'd prolly beat you"....if thats the case then he's a hypocrite for criticizing the guy though i do give him credit for not taking on the "holier then thou" standard tv interviewer personality.

[axeman61]

How is he a hypocrite for admitting he's done stupid things? He didn't advertise his stupid shit to the world and say the lame (at least in this case) "don't like, don't look" excuse when people confronted him about it.

[The Deadpool]

Sure all comedy is at someone's expense, but not all comedy is about people dying though. You don't see people making jokes about the holocaust do you? It's socially insensitive. Do I make these rules? No, but it is the society we live in though. Is it fair that certain topics are more taboo than others ? I suppose that's for the individual to decide. You can't make a blanket statement saying that those who pick and choose what is acceptable is hypocritical. It's just human nature for individuals to have lines you can and cannot cross.

[-=KOH=-]

People do shit everyday even that CNN guy admitted he probably did much worse but being part of the media personnel or not he was adult enough to say yea I did it and it was stupid. Telling people to just get over it and the media gotchu is adolescent and ignoring the bigger picture.

Are people this bored or unchallenged that they have to be controversial on purpose knowing what can happen in a digital age? Nothing is safe these days, privacy included. I mean it's not like we're living in the 20's with no internet and where we don't have to worry about someone running across something like this. If they wanted to share pictures they could have showed friends even though that never goes well either with someone stealing shit and posting it anyways. It's just all stupid IMO.

I wonder if when someone dies and people like this shameless kid becomes their surgeon, will they mimic the reaction of the person dying after death and then when word gets out on what they did tell the family, it was just a joke get over it your father/husband is dead anyways.

You know what, I actually agree with you, He definitely should have apologized because he did offend people. The thing is, the media coverage on this pretty ridiculous, it's sad when this is the kind of shit that we are watching on the news, it really didn't need national attention, but I'm sure there will be some people who disagree with me.

Now to touch on what you said, "if it happened to me/us." I'm the kinda guy that can just let things go like that, but to play devils advocate, I honestly couldn't tell you how I would feel in their exact situation.

But I still firmly believe that people just need to deal with their grievances, I've always tried to advocate that our society puts too much stress and attention on death, maybe it's because I've dealt with some close loses my self, but this all comes down to opinion and no one is going to 100% on something that does not and will not effect them what so ever.

So keep on arguing this shit, it's tired and I'm out.


EDIT* I missed a section, I think it was fucking retarded to post those pictures online, but I think it's also pretty stupid that people were 'that' offended by pictures, I've seen some way worse VTech shops and pictures, I don't agree with what they did, I understand it's "as far as the media is concerned" about the 'Principle of the matter', but I aslo believe in the principle that you can't just attack one person out of 10,000 that have done the same if not worse, he just got the shit end of the stick for having that dumb shit on face book.

Furthermore tragedies are always running gags, they shouldn't be but it's the truth, prime example = T-shirt hell before he was poisoned and shit.

This shit is just my opinion, take it with a grain.

[KrsJin]

I like how he said something along the lines of 'since it was just a few of us to a private party where we didn't expect others to see it/find out, it's ok'. That's like saying, as long as no one finds out I killed someone, it's all hunky-dorey.

^Agreed with The Deadpool too. Comedy often involves a victim of some sort, but this is ridiculous.

[Monte]

Shaft Agent knows the score. I mean look at the stuff that gets said on srk every day. A good portion of the population would find stuff said on here offensive. What if someone outside of SRK got offended and then brought it to the attention of the media? Would anybody feel the need to apologize? I don't think people would. I think most of srk would say, "stfu, you don't know us or how we operate, if you don't like what we say then gtfo!" Same thing here, it's a group of people who had a party in private and someone outside the group brought it to the attention to the rest of the nation.

Of course I think what he did was terrible but an apology should be genuine not only because someone got offended.

[Shaft Agent]

Sure all comedy is at someone's expense, but not all comedy is about people dying though.
some of it is.
You don't see people making jokes about the holocaust do you?
roughly 12 seconds of search yielded :d:

"My grandfather died in the Holocaust..."
"Really? I'm sorry to hear that."
"Yeah, he fell off his guard tower."

It's socially insensitive. Do I make these rules? No, but it is the society we live in though.oh, there's no doubt it's socially insensitive. but that what comedy is. comedy is used to bring to light some of the most fucked up shit in society and the human experience in general. people tend to overlook that a little too much (offtopic: which is why many comedians are the most depressing/depressed people on the planet in real life. everyone gets the joke but rarely get the message).

Is it fair that certain topics are more taboo than others ? I suppose that's for the individual to decide. You can't make a blanket statement saying that those who pick and choose what is acceptable is hypocritical. should we change the First Amendment to "freedom of speech and expression as long as enough other people find it acceptable?"

It's just human nature for individuals to have lines you can and cannot cross. America: land of the free, home of the people that feel you owe them shit when you really don't. :lol:

ya know i'm just messing with ya, right?

also, i can't stress this enough: personally, i feel the guy should have dressed up as Captain Cunt to highlight his personality.

[thurst]

Sure all comedy is at someone's expense, but not all comedy is about people dying though. You don't see people making jokes about the holocaust do you? It's socially insensitive. Do I make these rules? No, but it is the society we live in though. Is it fair that certain topics are more taboo than others ? I suppose that's for the individual to decide. You can't make a blanket statement saying that those who pick and choose what is acceptable is hypocritical. It's just human nature for individuals to have lines you can and cannot cross.

are you serious? i've heard, made and seen on TV a fuck ton of holocaust, slavery and darfur jokes, by no means were all of them funny but a good number of them were. gilbert gotfried pulled out a 9/11 joke like 6 weeks after the event at the friar's club in nyc. v tech was like 6 months ago, we as a nation we need to move on obviously it'd be fucked up subject a person from VT to that but it's better to offend somebody by treating them normally than to coddle them on some bullshit imo. but then again i was pretending to run scared anytime one of korean friends got upset within hours of the incident so maybe i'm not a good barometer for sensitivity.


hell i was watching south park the other day with this hot ass palestinian chick and then they started making fun of suicide bombers and chopping hostages' heads off in imaginary land, the chick was about to cry...shit was still the funniest thing i saw that week.

edit: i typed this out about an hour ago, just sent it...but shaft pretty much says the same thing.

[orochizoolander]

Shaft Agent knows the score. I mean look at the stuff that gets said on srk every day. A good portion of the population would find stuff said on here offensive. What if someone outside of SRK got offended and then brought it to the attention of the media? Would anybody feel the need to apologize? I don't think people would. I think most of srk would say, "stfu, you don't know us or how we operate, if you don't like what we say then gtfo!" Same thing here, it's a group of people who had a party in private and someone outside the group brought it to the attention to the rest of the nation.

Of course I think what he did was terrible but an apology should be genuine not only because someone got offended.



^^QFT.



I'd like to see any of yall who think " he should have given an insincere apology" to argue this well said post.

[Will Gotti]

but where is the line?

(stupid hypothetical coming up)

what if CNN got on SRK and read the Crazy Story Thread and decided to interview you personally on one of your stories? what if they said some shit like "what you said to Mashonda in 10th grade on the school bus is so despicable, i want you to apologize to everyone that has ever been sexually harassed." would you apologize or would you tell CNN to go kick rocks because it's none of their business what went on between you and Mashonda? don't forget they are making money off of berating you and acting like they are your moral compass. (also, plz dun hert me :sweat: )

Where's the line? We're not 5 year olds here, people should be able to figure it out. He knows where the line is, but stepped over it purposely and defiantly because he said it was done to be controversial and just go against everything no what anyone thought. I told her I was sorry and she told me she was sorry for what she did which caused me to act stupidly. I knew her for years prior and we made up before graduation. If CNN knocked on my door tomorrow I'd tell them I apologized 14 years ago and everything is done.

This kid's situation is much, much different than mine. I was retaliating against something she did to me, this kid and his friends are making fun of the dead disrespecting their families in their face for all to see "being controversial" for random shits and giggles then posting it on the web for anyone around the world to see and judge for themselves.

You wouldn't have ever known about some random story in my head if I hadn't have posted it, this kid had photographic evidence and boasted about it. Then he's unapologetic and pretty much laughing inside. You have some stories in the Crazy Story thread that can be put under a microscope too, but the question is "Would you be an adult about it now?"

oh, there's no doubt that this guy is a complete dipshit, and i'm not praising his actions at all. he had to go on the show though, just to make sure that everybody knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he doesn't give a fuck about V-Tech and he doesn't give a fuck about people that give a fuck about V-Tech. he didn't trust the news to get his point across mainly because the news will pervert his message.

which is part of the problem. not that you found it funny; but that people don't seem to forget that ALL comedy can be considered tasteless because ALL comedy is at someone's expense. i can choose not to laugh at their costumes (and i do choose not to laugh. it's a lame joke, just like every college party i've ever been to), but i can't get appalled over it like some people feel they should be because comedy wise- either ALL of it is funny or NONE of it is. picking and choosing is hypocrisy.I don't care what that dumbass does. Movies w/anything concerning the WTC were put on hold, canceled, edited and the like because of the impact and emotions running rampant around the U.S. at the time or if anyone said one cross word about New York in the aftermath of 9/11 people would have their bitchmode activated immediately over the smallest things.

I was just disgusted with his choice of action and being someone who is probably going to be a working professional sometime in the future. He just doesn't care, you didn't see the others interviewing, why him? Cause he's the most jackass of them all prolly. I mean honestly where's the humor and what's the point to what they decided to wear? There's billions of other choices out there, but they went for something that was just so 1st grade.

You know what, I actually agree with you, He definitely should have apologized because he did offend people. The thing is, the media coverage on this pretty ridiculous, it's sad when this is the kind of shit that we are watching on the news, it really didn't need national attention, but I'm sure there will be some people who disagree with me.

Now to touch on what you said, "if it happened to me/us." I'm the kinda guy that can just let things go like that, but to play devils advocate, I honestly couldn't tell you how I would feel in their exact situation.

But I still firmly believe that people just need to deal with their grievances, I've always tried to advocate that our society puts too much stress and attention on death, maybe it's because I've dealt with some close loses my self, but this all comes down to opinion and no one is going to 100% on something that does not and will not effect them what so ever.

So keep on arguing this shit, it's tired and I'm out.


EDIT* I missed a section, I think it was fucking retarded to post those pictures online, but I think it's also pretty stupid that people were 'that' offended by pictures, I've seen some way worse VTech shops and pictures, I don't agree with what they did, I understand it's "as far as the media is concerned" about the 'Principle of the matter', but I aslo believe in the principle that you can't just attack one person out of 10,000 that have done the same if not worse, he just got the shit end of the stick for having that dumb shit on face book.

Furthermore tragedies are always running gags, they shouldn't be but it's the truth, prime example = T-shirt hell before he was poisoned and shit.

This shit is just my opinion, take it with a grain.

Well I have nothing to say to this really because I can see you're not as narrow minded as I thought from your other post.

[akumatrunigga]

nah son FUCK THAT. im proud of the man for standing his ground, even though it was very distasteful, people are pussies now adays. Anytime anybody does something insulting, and its broadcasted in the media, that person is always bullied into apologizing, even though obviously it isnt sincere. Though the guy might be a jackass and he might have alterior motives for doing what he did, his point is very valid
true alot of people are soft but showing up on tv trying to act like your tough regarding this event is a different things. alot of people as stated in prior post is trying too hard for the controversial to get some of that "fame". You have myspace, youtube, facebook, blackplanet or whatever and there are so many who do this thing purposely. Maybe he should walk around the campus and see what would happen all of us know what will happen.
Shaft Agent knows the score. I mean look at the stuff that gets said on srk every day. A good portion of the population would find stuff said on here offensive. What if someone outside of SRK got offended and then brought it to the attention of the media? Would anybody feel the need to apologize? I don't think people would. I think most of srk would say, "stfu, you don't know us or how we operate, if you don't like what we say then gtfo!" Same thing here, it's a group of people who had a party in private and someone outside the group brought it to the attention to the rest of the nation.

Of course I think what he did was terrible but an apology should be genuine not only because someone got offended.
you know what you cant even compare what some people say here and what he did. Now i can see that if one of posters created something similar regarding vt that'll give srk negative pub and posted it on here.

However i think it was done purposely. There is no way in hell that someone outside the group brought it to attention to the nation.

[The Damned]

I'm appalled...

"Whose" is possessive. "Who's" is the contraction of "who is." Who is worse...

Geez. I'm appalled too. I was that tired that I didn't even notice before I went to work?

What the hell (else) is wrong with me?


akumatrunigga: I wouldn't be surprised if it was an "inside job" too, but I would still have to ask if it's actually "important" enough to be on the news? (Or rather, should it be important enough to be on the news, provided the news wasn't a Network-styled ratings whore.)

[ringopan]

"My grandfather died in the Holocaust..."
"Really? I'm sorry to hear that."
"Yeah, he fell off his guard tower."


LOLLLLLLLLLL

my reaction to that joke above reflects my view on the costumes. people laugh about fucked up shit all the time, who cares?

i just know for a fact that all you fuckers saying the costumes were insensitive and wrong, were also laughing your ass off reading the ashy gary coleman thread.

[Shaft Agent]

Where's the line? We're not 5 year olds here, people should be able to figure it out. He knows where the line is, but stepped over it purposely and defiantly because he said it was done to be controversial and just go against everything no what anyone thought. I told her I was sorry and she told me she was sorry for what she did which caused me to act stupidly. I knew her for years prior and we made up before graduation. If CNN knocked on my door tomorrow I'd tell them I apologized 12 years ago and everything is done.

This kid's situation is much, much different than mine. I was retaliating against something she did to me, this kid and his friends are making fun of the dead disrespecting their families in their face for all to see "being controversial" for random shits and giggles then posting it on the web for anyone around the world to see and judge for themselves.

You wouldn't have ever known about some random story in my head if I hadn't have posted it, this kid had photographic evidence and boasted about it. Then he's unapologetic and pretty much laughing inside. You have some stories in the Crazy Story thread that can be put under a microscope too, but the question is "Would you be an adult about it now?"

I don't care what that dumbass does. Movies w/anything concerning the WTC were put on hold, canceled, edited and the like because of the impact and emotions running rampant around the U.S. at the time or if anyone said one cross word about New York in the aftermath of 9/11 people would have their bitchmode activated immediately over the smallest things.

I was just disgusted with his choice of action and being someone who is probably going to be a working professional sometime in the future. He just doesn't care, you didn't see the others interviewing, why him? Cause he's the most jackass of them all prolly. I mean honestly where's the humor and what's the point to what they decided to wear? There's billions of other choices out there, but they went for something that was just so 1st grade.
i wasn't trying to call you out for your story (it was pretty damn entertaining to me- which is why i remembered it. you need to post more :shameless: ), i was just using it as an example for how people can get singled out. i DEFINITELY wasn't playing "holier than thou." dude, i stabbed a chick with a salad fork (she started it, and it was on accident, but still)! i'm not a hardass- i almost started crying after i thought about it that night, and got maybe 2 hours of sleep. you better BELIEVE i apologized that very next day (she wasn't even affected by it- the fork i mean; she loved the apology because it allowed her to antagonize me for years afterward which i feel was my penance so i let her) :lol:.

if CNN came up to me and was like "on behalf of all battered women in history, we demand your apology." i'd refer them to all the other stories where i helped women. if they still pushed the issue, i'd tell them to go kick rocks- i'd probably go do it on TV too. why? Richard Jewell. the media has a good record for wrongfully fucking up lives by getting the average viewer to pass their biased judgment upon people. by going to an interview, one can take that power AWAY from them if their logic is solid. the dude is a COMPLETE assmunch, but one thing he is not, is a LIAR. he's abrasive and uncaring as hell, but the world would be better off if there were more people like him, instead of all these "out of respect for ______ i'll censor myself/get mad at anyone that doesn't act solemn in the face of tragedy" faux-sincerity hypocrites. dude has balls and you know exactly where he stands. you gotta admit he's got balls, man:lovin:

that "party" is interesting as well. if it was a party where people were dressing up in "tasteless" costumes, why did CNN decide to OMIT the other pics from the party? a party where everybody dresses up in fucked up costumes and only 2 pics of 2 people were taken? i doubt that. other people's costumes weren't "tasteless" enough to deserve public admonishment? even if all the other people didn't dress up in fucked up costumes, where are the pics where all the other party goers were expressing their disgust for the V-Tech costumes? i doubt anybody gave a damn. we can easily figure out that they were ALL unapologetic during the party- it was a "tradition" after all. also, your post about how they were on some 1st grade bullshit is 100% truth, though it was a college party and most college parties are lame as hell (i might be biased because i don't drink, but whatever).

i hope what i wrote makes sense. i sometimes say/write things that just don't come out right.

[Will Gotti]

i wasn't trying to call you out for your story (it was pretty damn entertaining to me- which is why i remembered it. you need to post more :shameless: ), i was just using it as an example for how people can get singled out. i DEFINITELY wasn't playing "holier than thou." dude, i stabbed a chick with a salad fork (she started it, and it was on accident, but still)! i'm not a hardass- i almost started crying after i thought about it that night, and got maybe 2 hours of sleep. you better BELIEVE i apologized that very next day (she wasn't even affected by it- the fork i mean; she loved the apology because it allowed her to antagonize me for years afterward which i feel was my penance so i let her) :lol:.

No that's fine, you can call me out wherever you see fit, I'm not opposed to other people's opinions. How I respond is a different story. I believe in standing your ground as well and if you're not truly sorry then you're not. I've been in situations even w/family where I've said fuck it, I'm not apologizing for shit because I felt I was totally right and they were out of line.

if CNN came up to me and was like "on behalf of all battered women in history, we demand your apology." i'd refer them to all the other stories where i helped women. if they still pushed the issue, i'd tell them to go kick rocks- i'd probably go do it on TV too. why? Richard Jewell. the media has a good record for wrongfully fucking up lives by getting the average viewer to pass their biased judgment upon people. by going to an interview, one can take that power AWAY from them if their logic is solid. the dude is a COMPLETE assmunch, but one thing he is not, is a LIAR. he's abrasive and uncaring as hell, but the world would be better off if there were more people like him, instead of all these "out of respect for ______ i'll censor myself/get mad at anyone that doesn't act solemn in the face of tragedy" faux-sincerity hypocrites. dude has balls and you know exactly where he stands. you gotta admit he's got balls, man:lovin:

Balls is one thing but having foolish pride is another.

that "party" is interesting as well. if it was a party where people were dressing up in "tasteless" costumes, why did CNN decide to OMIT the other pics from the party? a party where everybody dresses up in fucked up costumes and only 2 pics of 2 people were taken? i doubt that. other people's costumes weren't "tasteless" enough to deserve public admonishment? even if all the other people didn't dress up in fucked up costumes, where are the pics where all the other party goers were expressing their disgust for the V-Tech costumes? i doubt anybody gave a damn. we can easily figure out that they were ALL unapologetic during the party- it was a "tradition" after all. also, your post about how they were on some 1st grade bullshit is 100% truth, though it was a college party and most college parties are lame as hell (i might be biased because i don't drink, but whatever).

i hope what i wrote makes sense. i sometimes say/write things that just don't come out right.

That idiot was the only one to have "balls" to come forward and he had no leg to stand on. He sounded childish w/o any purpose. If he had the slightest legitimate reason with some sound rhetoric, his stance could possibly be debatable. Instead he came across as a little dumb kid in a man's body. Since he didn't sound the least intelligible he just looked like an ignorant fool.

[Tigerboi]

i'm just going to say this: I'm not going to voice my opinion on the matter at hand, but I will say this:

He came onto the program with the wrong idea. If I were in his shoes, I would've gone on there and acted my ass off. He just fucked his life for a good while by being so arrogant.

Fuck, I work in customer service. I apologize for a lot of shit i don't give two flying fucks about because the situation is bigger than my pride.

[Mixah]

fucking bitches....

[Alex]

You don't see people making jokes about the holocaust do you? It's socially insensitive. Do I make these rules? No, but it is the society we live in though.


hah I laughed at this as well. I dont want to get into detial but its no secret that there is an entire subgenre of haloacust jokes.


^^QFT.



I'd like to see any of yall who think " he should have given an insincere apology" to argue this well said post.


hah exactly. I would Love for someone on CNN and come to one of these srk guys' houses and say.

"This is your IP adress right? We have evidence of you making jokes about a little girl being brutally mauled alive by a bear, you replied with what can only be described as a tasteless yogi-bear reference. Do you honestly find the death of a child funny? In addition to that, after reading a news report of an african american male killing, cooking and eating another human being you replied with " Mmm taste like chiggin!" Sir are you a rasist? What kind of sick person finds this a joking matter? I want you to right now apoligise for what you said on the interwebs.

Would you really apoligise? lol ninja plz.

well maybe you would but not me,. Im not going to pussy out and be all like "No sir i was just joking with my friends ;_; i diddnt really mean it. I know now it was the wrong thing to do and i apogise for anyone i might have offended :( im not a rasist and i do not really condone rasism or domestic vilonce.

id stick to my guns like this guy. Even if he really is serious and full of hate, so the fuck what?

[Shaft Agent]

That idiot was the only one to have "balls" to come forward and he had no leg to stand on. He sounded childish w/o any purpose. If he had the slightest legitimate reason with some sound rhetoric, his stance could possibly be debatable. Instead he came across as a little dumb kid in a man's body. Since he didn't sound the least intelligible he just looked like an ignorant fool.heh, that guy might have been nervous. he did pause many times before he answered FauxReilly. Jackass probably had a shit load of things to say that were culturally relevant; but when it came to crunch time and the FauxReilly started yelling, he could have been thrown off. hell, i got thrown off by the judge for my court case, and he was NICE to me! Jackass was turtling with that 100% full 1st Amendment Life Bar- and though technically he won by timeout, nobody respects him for it- and will probably lose in the long run. oh well :rofl:

[Will Gotti]

heh, that guy might have been nervous. he did pause many times before he answered FauxReilly. Jackass probably had a shit load of things to say that were culturally relevant; but when it came to crunch time and the FauxReilly started yelling, he could have been thrown off. hell, i got thrown off by the judge for my court case, and he was NICE to me! Jackass was turtling with that 100% full 1st Amendment Life Bar- and though technically he won by timeout, nobody respects him for it- and will probably lose in the long run. oh well :rofl:

I doubt it. He had the gall to go on TV he should have been prepared for something like what was thrown at him. If he was really someone who stood up for their beliefs he would have had a lot more to say then basic idiocy. I don't think he was nervous, he looked pompous enough, I think he felt trapped like a rat because he knew what he did was truly stupid. Being on national TV sped that realization up and he knew he had no idea what to say about his conduct.

[eazie]

people mocked 9/11 nothing is safe.

[pherai]

oh, there's no doubt that this guy is a complete dipshit, and i'm not praising his actions at all. he had to go on the show though, just to make sure that everybody knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he doesn't give a fuck about V-Tech and he doesn't give a fuck about people that give a fuck about V-Tech. he didn't trust the news to get his point across mainly because the news will pervert his message.

Going on tv achieves the opposite ends because its a lot of effort just to make a point. What shows you don't give a fuck more? Not making the effort to defend yourself because you honestly don't think it's something worth discussing, or going through the effort to appear on national tv to make it clear to everyone you don't care? There are some things that you just need to be tactful about. Think of it this way...

If you were turned on by something that could be embarrassing (like pegging) and your girlfriend talked about it freely among guests, saying it was ok because she wasn't ashamed of it and didn't care what people thought, would that make it ok? There is a line you cross when you take things done in private and throw them in the face of the public. This thing should have been left to die, and it certainly wouldn't have gone nearly as far if this douche wouldn't have gone on tv.

[Richter85]

is it just me or dude sounds like a ***?

[thurst]

have any of you guys ever been to the new york halloween parade? they have costumes that are A LOT fucking worse than VT victims. a priest costume with a doll of little boy sucking his dick is much worse than a VT victim, especially when there's more than a few little kids looking witnessing that shit...media doesn't care about that though :rolleyes:

[Will Gotti]

have any of you guys ever been to the new york halloween parade? they have costumes that are A LOT fucking worse than VT victims. a priest costume with a doll of little boy sucking his dick is much worse than a VT victim, especially when there's more than a few little kids looking witnessing that shit...media doesn't care about that though :rolleyes:

This is absurd on so many different levels, you're trying to work a loophole on sincerity. First this guy went on national TV to defend his stupidity without any recourse. Second that is not much worse than a VT victim...are you seriously this dumb? Who are they excepting into Rutgers? Granted there are probably kids around witnessing this stuff you're talking about, but worse than people laying up in their early graves because of some crazy emo chinese kid with problems he took out on random people? Get real. Kids see worse stuff on network TV watching Will and Grace.

I don't defend the media for their choice of story coverage, but again this pompous ass decided he was smart and cool enough to sit in the hot seat and the media went with it. You can't blame them for taking the story when one of the people involved thinks he's king shit and can explain why he dressed up like a VT victim and hammed it up for pictures.

[m00b]

I don't see what's so bad about the costumes anyway. Let's praise all the hookers / drug dealers / murderers / whatever fucking absurdity people want to dress up as on Halloween. Double - fucking - standards. How can you say these morally wrong things are okay and this is not?

[Higher-Jin]

Who the fuck cares?

[Shaft Agent]

I doubt it. He had the gall to go on TV he should have been prepared for something like what was thrown at him. If he was really someone who stood up for their beliefs he would have had a lot more to say then basic idiocy. I don't think he was nervous, he looked pompous enough, I think he felt trapped like a rat because he knew what he did was truly stupid. Being on national TV sped that realization up and he knew he had no idea what to say about his conduct.sometimes courage isn't always a "brains operation-" and even though it was childish- at the very least, he's gotten people to side with him. i bet the ACLU sides with him, maybe he can get a job there :wgrin:

Going on tv achieves the opposite ends because its a lot of effort just to make a point. What shows you don't give a fuck more? Not making the effort to defend yourself because you honestly don't think it's something worth discussing, or going through the effort to appear on national tv to make it clear to everyone you don't care? There are some things that you just need to be tactful about. Think of it this way...

If you were turned on by something that could be embarrassing (like pegging) and your girlfriend talked about it freely among guests, saying it was ok because she wasn't ashamed of it and didn't care what people thought, would that make it ok? There is a line you cross when you take things done in private and throw them in the face of the public. This thing should have been left to die, and it certainly wouldn't have gone nearly as far if this douche wouldn't have gone on tv.

here's an example from my home town:

there's a guy over here that has Christmas decorations (like most of the country) out in his front yard. instead of lights, he made his own wooden stand up. basically it's a bunch of reindeer all in a group. to the far left of the scene by a tree, he made a stand up of Santa with a rifle pointed at the reindeer like he was hunting them. now he's receiving mail about how his decorations don't fit the nature of the season and people are demanding him to take it down and give an apology. a fucking camera crew went out to his house to get an interview. he declined, but the news still ran the story. now his shit is vandalized. that's bullshit. it makes me wonder what would have happened if he took the interview and explained his side of the story. would his shit still be vandalized? (also this sucks ass for me because next year i had planned to do a huge stand up of Santa Claus and Jesus joining forces to fight the Abominable Snow Monster and to save Mrs. Claus, who the monster kidnapped and tied to an icicle. i thought it would be a funny idea, but since a redneck can't mix his love of hunting and Christmas without people sending him hate mail and fucking with him, maybe i should rethink doing things that don't affect anyone)

[Will Gotti]

sometimes courage isn't always a "brains operation-" and even though it was childish- at the very least, he's gotten people to side with him. i bet the ACLU sides with him, maybe he can get a job there :wgrin:


In the grand scheme of things, it's always gonna be 50/50 no matter how stupid the situation is.

[Shaft Agent]

yeah. also, you post too friggin' fast. :lol:

[thurst]

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how many people have been molested by priests or in general versus the 32(?) people died @ VT? it's about how many people are offended right? i'm pretty sure more people were personally offended by a pedo priest costume than this shit. or better yet, that 9/11 hijacking spoof they played at the mtv movie awards, how many people died in 9/11 again? there's a ton of worst shit that actually gets celebrated, but we're upset about this why again?

2 of my 3 uncles were shot in the head does that mean i get to be indignant and complain everytime i see a costume of somebody that got shot or with some massive head trauma? uh...no.

and what exactly was wrong with him going on TV again? he's not the one that looked like an idiot frothing at the mouth spouting nonsense. acting as if he's the only self-righteous clown that ever got on camera doesn't change the fact that he's the one standing on solid ground and not the host or anybody else bitching about the innocent. i'm surprised they didn't get a family member of somebody killed to confront him on camera, at least then he might have an actual reason to apologize to somebody that was supposedly offended rather than to an "offended" host.

i wonder how long these pics were benignly sitting on facebook before someone decided they wanted to pretend to be butt hurt over them or better yet before a VT victim even saw them, halloween was like 2 months ago. and if he's a journalism major, which for some reason i believe he is dude will definitely be getting mad burn off of his little stunt.

oh and the "crazy emo kid" was korean.

[Will Gotti]

how many people have been molested by priests or in general versus the 32(?) people died @ VT? it's about how many people are offended right? i'm pretty sure more people were personally offended by a pedo priest costume than this shit. or better yet, that 9/11 hijacking spoof they played at the mtv movie awards, how many people died in 9/11 again? there's a ton of worst shit that actually gets celebrated, but we're upset about this why again?

Sure there is. We can argue semantics all day, but the fact of the matter is, those people caught flack too for their stand ups on 9/11. It's not like this hit the evening news where the entire country is like oh shit. But you saying that a parade being worse than people people getting shot up and killed was utterly stupid.

2 of my 3 uncles were shot in the head does that mean i get to be indignant and complain everytime i see a costume of somebody that got shot or with some massive head trauma? uh...no.I've lost family too to circumstances that were fucked up, but that doesn't mean I hardy har har over some jackass clowning around about someone else's misfortunes and lay back and shit on everyone else.

and what exactly was wrong with him going on TV again? he's not the one that looked like an idiot frothing at the mouth spouting nonsense. acting as if he's the only self-righteous clown that ever got on camera doesn't change the fact that he's the one standing on solid ground and not the host or anybody else bitching about the innocent. i'm surprised they didn't get a family member of somebody killed to confront him on camera, at least then he might have an actual reason to apologize to somebody that was supposedly offended rather than to an "offended" host.Point is he didn't have a reason. Fuck being offended. If he had a leg to stand on that would be a different story but he didn't at all. You're defending an idiot cause you've been through some tough times like everyone else, so it's like fuck it. That's dumb and skewered.

i wonder how long these pics were benignly sitting on facebook before someone decided they wanted to pretend to be butt hurt over them or better yet before a VT victim even saw them, halloween was like 2 months ago. and if he's a journalism major, which for some reason i believe he is dude will definitely be getting mad burn off of his little stunt.

oh and the "crazy emo kid" was korean.Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Mongolian whatever guy you get the point, don't be stupid. Point is he didn't have to come forward. Others didn't and we aren't even talking about them. If he didn't this would have probably blown in the wind. Like someone else said before, he was the only one to step up like he had a purpose and really didn't have one to begin with. You're defending idiocy w/o any leg to stand on except "fighting the power's that be." I don't agree with a lot what's said in the media but get real. You have to choose your battles and this one was lost before it started.

[akumatrunigga]

is it just me or dude sounds like a ***?
you are so late
I don't see what's so bad about the costumes anyway. Let's praise all the hookers / drug dealers / murderers / whatever fucking absurdity people want to dress up as on Halloween. Double - fucking - standards. How can you say these morally wrong things are okay and this is not?
you're kidding me right? You must be joking? Would you elighten us on who has worn outfits such as those. Im curious about the drug dealer actually. :lol:

Now of course if the girl didnt have on a VT shirt like an idiot then this discussion is pretty much over. But since they wanted the "attention" well they got it.

[thurst]

Sure there is. We can argue semantics all day, but the fact of the matter is, those people caught flack too for their stand ups on 9/11. It's not like this hit the evening news where the entire country is like oh shit. But you saying that a parade being worse than people people getting shot up and killed was utterly stupid.

the united 300 video won the award and was cheered, there was no flack/fall out whatsoever, and it was MTV primetime best believe millions of people saw that shit, a lot more than watch cable daytime news by far.
and no one is saying the parade is worse than the actual shooting, however the mocking going on at one is directly in front of people that are likely to be offended/hurt (ie the churches, catholics, small kids, etc...) whereas this only offended people that actively sought it out. it's difference between your girl getting upset bcuz you called her a bitch at dinner vs. her getting upset bcuz she heard thru the grapevine that you and your boys were talking generically about "bitches", one is clearly worse than the other.

edit: you've never seen gangbanger/thug costumes during halloween, not drug dealer exactly but then again how exactly do you dress up as a drug dealer.

[colguile]

I saw this on tv and I too thought this guy was a faggot. But, aside from that I knida agree with both sides. On the one hand it was private and must like SRK he was doing some stupid shit for kicks. On the other hand it was in poor taste and he came off as heartless.

This reminds me of a story that happened here in toronto. SOme art faggot decided to make a fake bomb and put in the museum here. A bomb threat was called in and the scrub thought it was art and we should be less critical even though he impacted the lives of many in the city.

[Son Them All]

People seem to get it SO FUCKED UP as to what the 1st amendment means...The right to free speech roughly translates to....you have the RIGHT TO BE OFFENDED. That's the very nature of the amendment. If someone is free to say what they want, chances are you could be offended. So? Get the fuck over it. I'm so sick of the PC army I can't stand it.

[m00b]

you're kidding me right? You must be joking? Would you elighten us on who has worn outfits such as those. Im curious about the drug dealer actually. :lol:

You need only visit a high school on Halloween now-a-days.

[FragMasterGen]

big fucking deal

[Will Gotti]

the united 300 video won the award and was cheered, there was no flack/fall out whatsoever, and it was MTV primetime best believe millions of people saw that shit, a lot more than watch cable daytime news by far.
and no one is saying the parade is worse than the actual shooting, however the mocking going on at one is directly in front of people that are likely to be offended/hurt (ie the churches, catholics, small kids, etc...) whereas this only offended people that actively sought it out. it's difference between your girl getting upset bcuz you called her a bitch at dinner vs. her getting upset bcuz she heard thru the grapevine that you and your boys were talking generically about "bitches", one is clearly worse than the other.

edit: you've never seen gangbanger/thug costumes during halloween, not drug dealer exactly but then again how exactly do you dress up as a drug dealer.

Thurst you could have specks of potential, but you are not intelligent on these boards a lot of times if not most when it comes to topics of debate. Do you know why United 300 won and was cheered? Because the overt message was the fight against terrorism, airline safety and shedding patriotism onto a grime situation. That's why there was no fall out, because it was totally positive in a humorous way and done 6 years afterwards.

Most people get offended when something is done to be hurtful, insincere or to be an attention whore fighting against the grain to prove a point and have no recourse whatsoever. Others get offended over anything. This kid's fiasco was done less than a year after a huge massacre and was intended to add insult to injury nothing less and probably more. That was the purpose of the party according to him. Tradition.

There was actually a news thread I made late last year or earlier this year about Clemson students posting pictures of themselves in blackface and wearing gangbanging costumes on Facebook. I've seen it at a party or two myself, not blackface though. Was I amused no didn't cry about it either just wasn't enthralled, but that wasn't the theme and no one was expecting it, so it's not like I went to the party expecting to see something like that. Everyone else, myself included, did their thing and didn't pay them much mind.

[bridgypoo]

People seem to get it SO FUCKED UP as to what the 1st amendment means...The right to free speech roughly translates to....you have the RIGHT TO BE OFFENDED. That's the very nature of the amendment. If someone is free to say what they want, chances are you could be offended. So? Get the fuck over it. I'm so sick of the PC army I can't stand it.

You have the right to be offended unless the intention was malicious. And of course, this *** says, "oh, it's just a joke! Get over it." and there is no proof of malicious intent in the symbolic speech given.

Note one: "What, I haven't done something stupid in my life? Plenty. Probably I can beat you."
Rofl. Rick owned himself.

Note two: Even though the Rick did insist that they are portraying victims that died, Nathan blamed people that distributed the video and look at the video being at fault for finding it offensive.:rolleyes: