Who is the greatest person to ever live, and why?

[ChromerX]

Who is the greatest person that has ever lived or is currently alive?
I go for Jeff Hardy :woot: because he can do a twist of fate to some1 off a 30 foot ladder

[Bobbypigo]

Abraham Lincoln, He would have never let Bush get away with all this crazy shit.

[maxx]

Who is the greatest person that has ever lived or is currently alive?
I go for Jeff Hardy :woot: because he can do a twist of fate to some1 off a 30 foot ladder

:confused: even for a wrestling geek..thats bad.

[Demon Dash]

Jesus, if it wasn't for him women wouldn't be so easy...

[YellowS4]

Hasselhoff.

[NapaSelect]

Chuck Norris, has to be mentioned

[SwmmrManShen]

Einstein

[tajiri]

guttenburg.

for inveting the guttenburg press.

[The Epidemic]

Allen Middleton hands down...The guy is just to pimp. He truly is my hero

[Sasmasta]

*Busts Orton Pose*

BEHOLD!

Hahaha! Nah, I dunno. I'll get back to you on this one.

[*InVeRs3*]

johannes guttenberg. no press, no internet, and we're all serfs.

[maxx]

Jesus, if it wasn't for him women wouldn't be so easy...

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

catholic school girls and the pull out method ftw...or sometimes ftl.

[fishjie]

Abraham Lincoln, He would have never let Bush get away with all this crazy shit.

abe threw war protestors into jail without any charges and denied their right to receive a fair trial. he suspended habeas corpus during the war, as have many other great presidents.

the difference between abe and george jr is that junior is a fundamentalist christian; while abe...

The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.

[Netology]

abe threw war protestors into jail without any charges and denied their right to receive a fair trial. he suspended habeas corpus during the war, as have many other great presidents.

the difference between abe and george jr is that junior is a fundamentalist christian; while abe...

fishjie what made you deconvert?
if that is true from what i read in another thread

[DarthTrey]

Christopher Walken.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

fishjie what made you deconvert?
if that is true from what i read in another thread

Maybe because Jesus never actually walked on water?

[fishjie]

fishjie what made you deconvert?
if that is true from what i read in another thread

a number of things. i've joined the list of srk apostates who are doomed to burn in the lake of fire. i'd love to discuss it, but i think this thread will be locked. i really wish religion threads would be allowed on srk again. oh how i've missed them.

ps: if you really want to debate me and other satanic atheists, come to whywontgodhealamputees forums, where fallen xtians and other sinners preach their gospel of blasphemy. this way we can have our debate without it being locked. after all, christ calls you to be a fisher of men no?

[tahoo]

chuck norris..he has a huge cock (for real that thing is massive!)

[Atomic #]

J.F.K. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=cCrovnNGdSg)

[Bobbypigo]

abe threw war protestors into jail without any charges and denied their right to receive a fair trial. he suspended habeas corpus during the war, as have many other great presidents.

the difference between abe and george jr is that junior is a fundamentalist christian; while abe...

Wow, thanks for the education fishy. :tup:

[white shadow]

Our biological "Adam" who all modern humans descend from roughly 60,000 years ago.

[Anakron]

Colonel Sanders

[DarthTrey]

Colonel Sanders



Only to blacks

ZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MrBlank]

I dont know why but id say hugh heffner...

if it wasnt for his bold step who know show crappy single life would be for some out there.

[Evil Morrigan]

Read up on this guy;

Norman Borlaug, He saved a

Billion from starving.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZk9evL8zcM

[Monte]

Well I don't know about greatest but I think George Washington is the man and often over looked. Sure he was the first president and that's all well and good but I think more importantly he led a group of rebels and beat the greatest military forces in the history of civilization.

Also after the war was over there was also lots of squabbling and some of his generals were plotting to install a military dictatorship but Washington went in front of his generals and delivered a single line that united America, "Gentlemen, you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for I have not only grown gray but almost blind in the service of my country." The generals that were conspiring were so moved that they became so ashamed and dropped their plans. Not even the Gettysburg address can touch that.

http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/fall97/wshngton.html

[kz0060]

Abraham Lincoln, He would have never let Bush get away with all this crazy shit.

Abraham Lincoln was a cyborg you fuckin' dumbass.

[Serpent]

Someone wrote a book on this before, and Muhammad was #1, and Jesus was around 7ish I think. Moses was #2 I believe. If someone knows what I'm talking about they should post reasons and the title and author.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

The greatest person ever is probably white.

[kz0060]

Actually I'm asian bro, but I forgive you.

[TheSix]

All that people on the Starcraft and Warcraft 1-3 dev team's.

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Victor Wooten.

[supermin]

johnny cage

edit: triple decapitate, nutcracker, sunglasses

[BlodiaVulcan5]

shigeru miyamoto. Why? Mario.

[fishjie]

oh and on topic, i think it would be someone such as alexander the great or genghis temujin khan, both of whom were incredibly badass mofos who shit all over the world for free. that's if we define greatest as those who held the most power.

but if we define greatest as who had the biggest contribution toward humanity, i'd say it'd be one of the greeks. i'm not sure which one, but seeing as how they invented math, medicine, and philosophy, they're up there.

[Black Chanler]

Our time line is dictated by Jesus' life.

[Serpent]

oh and on topic, i think it would be someone such as alexander the great or genghis temujin khan, both of whom were incredibly badass mofos who shit all over the world for free. that's if we define greatest as those who held the most power.

but if we define greatest as who had the biggest contribution toward humanity, i'd say it'd be one of the greeks. i'm not sure which one, but seeing as how they invented math, medicine, and philosophy, they're up there.

There is so much to math, that you can't say who invented it. Calculus and Algebra are math but clearly not invented by Greeks. The numerical system used is clearly not a greek one either. The notation system is not Greek either, and it's hard to claim much advanced until you could notate it.

Modern medicine is fairly new, and you can credit it mostly to the US. Non-modern medicine has been around since the dawn of time, and you can credit it to hundreds of civilizations all discovering things on their own.

Socrates was fairly worthless if you've read most of his material. I'm not sure if any philosopher can be considered a great contributor to mankind.

I bet it's the Queen of England, as England controlled pretty much the entire world at some point, and affected the future course of history. I think it was the Queen during that age. Maybe it was a king. I dunno, but I guess feminists would have seized on a Queen if it was that.


Edit-The only philosopher that had a huge noticeable effect is probably John Locke, as our Constitution is modeled after what he thought. Or we could skip right to whoever came up with the constitution.

[DeathReaper47]

Jesus Christ. Whether he walked on water or not, his influence has had a global impact on billions.

[Mink]

Johnny Knoxville

[matrix9280]

Bruce Lee because he was cool.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

Jesus Christ. Whether he walked on water or not, his influence has had a global impact on billions.

That is not so much Jesus' doing, but Christians taking the ball and running with it.

[ckrazy]

where all the minorities at? soemone plz mention! MLK Jr? The fuck wrong with you people....

[fishjie]

There is so much to math, that you can't say who invented it. Calculus and Algebra are math but clearly not invented by Greeks. The numerical system used is clearly not a greek one either. The notation system is not Greek either, and it's hard to claim much advanced until you could notate it.


archimedes was on the verge of discovering calculus. he was just a bit off. he was working with infinitesimals in a way almost similar to how people calculate integrals today. among other things, he was able to approximate pi, derive the formula for the area of a circle, and figure out the volume of a sphere. the greek mathematicians were in a class on their own.

the numerical system isn't greek, but the math notation system used today is greek, so i don't know what you mean by that. it uses the greek alphabet. pi, sigma, delta, epsilon, alpha, beta omega, and so on are used to this day. that's one indication of their influence.

[PsychoSquall]

The person that invented miniskirts.

[EvilSamurai]

It is hard to single out a sole individual for the title of "greatest person who ever lived," so I created various categories listed below. If I was forced to name a single person, then the answer IS Genghis Khan.

- In terms of medieval/ancient ass-kicking, harlot ravaging, village burninating: Temujin, better known by his title Genghis Khan (Oceanic/Heavenly Chieftain/King/Ruler). His descendants would have ruled the entire Eurasian land mass if whichever emperor came after Ugdai did not order his generals back to Mongolia in order to pay homage to him.

- In terms of religion: Ankhenaten, inventor of monotheism. Without him, there would never have been a Moses, Jesus, or Muhammad.

- In terms of technology: whoever discovered metal working. One can also make an argument for whichever hominid figured out that using a sharp rock enables one to butcher carrion before other, dangerous less intelligent, scavengers arrive but that hominid is not human (Homo sapiens sapiens)

- In terms of education: Johannes Gutenberg for inventing the printing press and enabling mass literacy.

- In terms of technological warfare: The unknown, 9th century AD Chinese alchemist who discovered gunpowder by accidentally blowing his face off while searching for eternal life.

- In terms of self-help manuals: Sun Tzu and Niccolò Machiavelli.

- In terms of founding a country: Qin Shi Huang Di, the first Emperor of China.

- In terms of ruling an empire: Augustus Caesar.

- In terms of conquering the world: Genghis Khan. Alexander the Great, Napoleon, and Atilla the Hun made a few key mistakes. Atilla lost the battle of Chalons, decided NOT to conquer the Roman Empire when he had a chance, and literally drowned in his own blood due to passing out drunk on his wedding night with a nose bleed (major loss of man points there). Napoleon invaded Russia in the fall and later when he had a chance to make up for his mistake and seize it all back at Waterloo, he reportedly delayed his attack in order to take a diarrhea dump. JUST SHIT IN YOUR PANTS! You can always buy another pair after you take back Europe. Alexander the Great's only real mistake was not keeping up troop morale in nothern India. He was forced to turn around and on the way back contracted an known disease, that combined with his heavy drinking, caused him to kick the bucket. If he had kept up troop morale then he would probably have ruled everything from Europe to China.

Our time line is dictated by Jesus' life.

Actually, our calender is based on Jesus's birthdate plus four years. Jesus was probably born in 4 "BC" and died in AD 30 at age 33 (There is no year zero in our current calender).

That is not so much Jesus' doing, but Christians taking the ball and running with it.

Basically, it is Paul of Tarsus and the Roman Emperor Constantine's doing.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

where all the minorities at? soemone plz mention! MLK Jr? The fuck wrong with you people....

Had he ended racism and segregation worldwide, then maybe. Of course, such a feat is impossible, so no.

[Netology]

I am the greatest person who ever lived.

[Black Chanler]

That is not so much Jesus' doing, but Christians taking the ball and running with it.

:rofl: you can't deny the passion muh fuckah.

[*InVeRs3*]

Had he ended racism and segregation worldwide, then maybe. Of course, such a feat is impossible, so no.

How about dat hitler? If he won, there would be no racism at all.

[fishjie]

i dont include hitler on the list for the same reason i didn't add napolean: hitler and napolean made the boneheaded blunder of invading russia and sticking around for winter. you can't beat russian winter. it pwns.

the mongols pwned russia, then novgorod, easily though.

[Plutoburn]

Buddha

His teachings are the most influential to most people on Earth. And compare to the other major religions in the world, it was the cause of death to the least amount of people.

[Liquid Fists]

Someone wrote a book on this before, and Muhammad was #1, and Jesus was around 7ish I think. Moses was #2 I believe. If someone knows what I'm talking about they should post reasons and the title and author.

To bad the three 'people' mentioned above have no historical background. Therefore they only exist in myth. Which doesn't allow them to be the greatest people ever.

[Yansoma]

To bad the three 'people' mentioned above have no historical background. Therefore they only exist in myth. Which doesn't allow them to be the greatest people ever.

Muhammad and Jesus did exist to some extent in recorded history, that much is agreed upon by nearly all historians; Moses on the other hand was not documented at all in his own contemporary time.

[Ali M]

Uncle Phil

[otter]

The greatest person ever is probably white.

if there are any abbreviations more expressive than lol or rofl i wish i knew that at this moment :rofl:

[orochizoolander]

At first i was going to say Derek Zoolander who to date is the only human capable of unleashing magnum however further analysis conclusively reveals that batman is indeed the epitmany of man.

Those who disagree or need proof should go read year one, long halloween, DKR, and hush.

[otter]

also my vote goes for Shigeru Miyamoto

[toxic025]

Genghis Khan, man so bad he has a pokemon named after him

[Will Gotti]

guttenburg.

for inveting the guttenburg press.

When I read the first part, I was thinking you meant Steve and I was like :wtf: :rofl:.

The greatest person ever is probably white.

What no Emiliano Zapata?

[valaris]

Genghis Gong, man so bad he has a pokemon named after him

Isn't it Khan and not Gong? or are you talking about someone else?

[Olan]

Muhammad Ali.

[i C o N]

The blacks

For making sure our cotton were in tip top shape

[masher]

X-Pac




why?


cuz...

:cool:You dealin wit the X-Factor!!!:cool: (http://youtube.com/watch?v=REFXufjgGL8)

[Netology]

buddha

ashtavakra

hakuin

greater than anyone else mentioned so far

[toxic025]

Isn't it Khan and not Gong? or are you talking about someone else?
fixed thanks for catching it for me. and yeah thats who I initially ment to say

hes the best because biggest country in the history of civilization

[KillerKai]

Mike Tyson

[Richter85]

Socrates

Democracy hello? I know he was cited as a person who defied the democratic ruler at that time, but he was the one who bashed on the system enough times that it changed into something magnificent.

[Weeks]

If you're going to vote on a religious figure, you should vote on Buddha or Abraham, as Abraham gave rise to the Big Three religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) and Buddha , well, self explanatory.

At any rate, greatest person to live as far as influencing us in our day to day life would probably be....hmm, I don't know...one of the greek philosophers, Cicero maybe, or Alexander?

Yes, I know Cicero and Alexander weren't greek nor really philosophers, just other examples. Caesar had a LOT of influence on western history. I mean the first 2000 years of history are basically: Rome, then everyone trying to be rome

[EvilSamurai]

If you're going to vote on a religious figure, you should vote on Buddha or Abraham, as Abraham gave rise to the Big Three religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) and Buddha , well, self explanatory.

At any rate, greatest person to live as far as influencing us in our day to day life would probably be....hmm, I don't know...one of the greek philosophers, Cicero maybe, or Alexander?

Yes, I know Cicero and Alexander weren't greek nor really philosophers, just other examples. Caesar had a LOT of influence on western history. I mean the first 2000 years of history are basically: Rome, then everyone trying to be rome

We are still trying to be like Rome.

[jsheppar]

socrates

edit:
Socrates was fairly worthless if you've read most of his material. I'm not sure if any philosopher can be considered a great contributor to mankind.
wait, what? there are no known writings by socrates

[Liquid Fists]

Muhammad and Jesus did exist to some extent in recorded history, that much is agreed upon by nearly all historians; Moses on the other hand was not documented at all in his own contemporary time.



You're pulling shit out of your ass here man..

There is no solid evidence that a man named Jesus ever existed, same goes for Muhammad.

[valaris]

You're pulling shit out of your ass here man..

There is no solid evidence that a man named Jesus ever existed, same goes for Muhammad.

One of the guys that used to mow my lawn was named Jesus.

[epsilon_]

abraham probably. founder of the big 3 religions essentially.

[Liquid Fists]

One of the guys that used to mow my lawn was named Jesus.

You and I both know I'm talking about the religious figure so many people so ignorantly adore. :rolleyes:

[Vicioso]

Mike Tyson

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rw47gXsDwjw

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8ZbHih0a320

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k_B5zRXU34M

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RsD1vNNoG8g

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U2m5OTBteAw

you cant watch those videos and say otherwise

[Vicioso]

oh yea sticky man is a close runner up

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mpvlLqSlRD4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sDAicnWqj70

[Silks]

I like people listed for impacting a large group of people in anyway. If that's the case, let's just throw up Hulk Hogan lol

This question is crazy hard, but I'd say you better look to the fields of science, math, and engineering for the person (not religion :rolleyes:). Like, Tesla was pretty important. Personally I'm a fan of having 120 volts AC pumping through the place I live :) Edison and his people came up with some nice stuff, which others continued and advanced further. Kind of helpful to our lives

[fishjie]

if we're gonna list religious figures, then i'd say emperor constantine, who convened the council of nicea and decided the standard set of beliefs for all christians to come, is the greatest person to ever live. before this, christianity was just another cult, but this sparked its growth and elevated its status. paul may have invented christianity, and jesus may or may not have existed, but constantine gave the cult legitimacy. and it has had a tremendous impact on civilization ever since.

joseph smith, L ron hubbard, and muhammed can only dream of the levels of impact this religion has had.

[J-ride]

Well, I'd give props to the brave individuals who through much tedious work and dedication, were able to bring scientific reasoning into medicine. Before that doctors, were pretty much just bleeders, and had very limited knowledge on how the body actually worked. In particular, people like James Carrol who was able to prove through experimentation that mosquitos caused yellow fever. That kind of mindset in medicine has allowed for great advances in just 100 or so years, and allowed for many people to enjoy longer, and fuller lives. But as far as just giving it to one person, I think that is too difficult of a task to do.

[Will Gotti]

if we're gonna list religious figures, then i'd say emperor constantine, who convened the council of nicea and decided the standard set of beliefs for all christians to come, is the greatest person to ever live. before this, christianity was just another cult, but this sparked its growth and elevated its status. paul may have invented christianity, and jesus may or may not have existed, but constantine gave the cult legitimacy. and it has had a tremendous impact on civilization ever since.

joseph smith, L ron hubbard, and muhammed can only dream of the levels of impact this religion has had.

You can't put L. Ron Hubbard up in this. He didn't give a shit about religion AT ALL, he wanted dat dinero.

[ChromerX]

I am the greatest person who ever lived.

I doesnt count when ur asleep :rofl: