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P. Gorath

01-03-2008, 05:11 PM

Alright, having recently completed viewing the last films of 2007 I needed to see, it is time once again to share the highlights and lowlights of 2007 aka the worst year of my existence (dont ask). On the whole this was not the strongest year for movies, although not quite as bad as 2000 or the year Chicago won best picture. We were treated to an enormous amount of summer tentpoles, few of which would hit the mark. Foreign films were lacking (no Pan's Labyrinth of Lives of Others) and the art house was mostly dead until the end of the year. Even so, there is no denying that a few great films shone through, and several very good ones followed.

All of the films on my list were seen in a movie theater, with an audience. They were not viewed alone from my couch, or on a crappy computer monitor while I'm chatting on others forums and such. They were seen the way they were meant to be seen, and judged on those merits.

Note for the worst 10 list: Per the criteria from the paragraph above, I am neither a complete idiot nor insanely rich. Therefore this is a list of the 10 worst films I saw this year, which is probably different than the 10 worst films of the year period. I will tell you right now that I did not pay to go see Balls of Fury, Hitman, AvP:R, or Bratz: The Movie. Deal with it.

So without further ado, the consolations: (*also just to clarify, these consolation categories aren't ranked in order, only the 10 best and worst)

Most Overrated Films of 2007
1. Hot Fuzz - Shaun of the Dead was funny, but not THAT funny. Hot Fuzz is worse. Like Bad Boys 2, it is about 25 minutes too long and doesn't have half the laughs that film does (unintentionally or not). You were safe just watching the trailer.

2. Disturbia - Lame Rear Window re-tread feels like a vhs tape that dropped off the back of the TriMark bankruptcy truck. How did this movie become a hit again? You get Shia in all his LeBoufiness and a guy that looks and acts like[ht: will gotti]Brian Cox as a deranged killer (imagine that). Snore inducing.

3. 300 - The graphic novel was shallow and straightforward, so was the movie. Yeah it was cool, yeah there were some fun battles and character moments, but overall was this even a good movie? It's fun, it's stylish, it's incredibly homoerotic, but it isn't the best movie of the year, and really isn't even better than Gladiator, which itself is overrated.

**UPDATED**

Guilty Pleasures of 2007
1. Lucky You - This is the only movie on the guilty pleasures list that I will flat out say is a bad movie. Lucky You is bad, and yet there is so much to like. Eric Bana is horribly miscast but he is still Eric Bana (check out Chopper for one of the greatest performances of the past 15 years), Drew Barrymore walks through it acting like she is still in 50 First Dates, and Robert Duvall phones it in from his summer home in Wintekka. Still, when you want to watch a movie about No Limit Texas Hold'em, you really can't be too choosy. The gambling scenes are fun in that each character gets the most outlandish hand and then gets beaten by an even more outlandish one. This is no Rounders, but if you have a poker night it is a good one to put on the tv and make fun of while you booze.

2. Aqua Teen Hunger Force: Colon Whatever - I don't care if you watched this at home or on cartoon network on downloaded it or whatever. The whole point of this one more than any other is the fact that you are watching freakin Aqua Teen in a movie theater. While it is true that the opening skit with the concession food is the best part of the film, the brisk pace and surrealness of the whole affair puts this on the list.

3. 28 Weeks Later - Not as good as 28 Days but also doesn't try to do the same thing. This felt like a classic euro-trash affair that would be more suited to the exploitation theater and half the budget. Has fun in showing the bad in people. Lots of good downer moments and sense of despair throughout. This one definitely surprised me.

4. Primevil and Vacancy - Primevil is like part Jaws, part Hotel Rwanda and except for Orlando Jones mugging it up the whole time, is pretty damn good. The killer giant animal film has become a rarity on the bigscreen and although I would have liked to see the Prison Break guy be a little more pro-active, there was enough meat on this one to carry it through. Vacancy on the other hand is very slimmed down, with a quick running time and my favorite part: NO TWISTS! That's right, what you see is what you get and the movie was all the stronger for it. Suspenseful and scary for a situation that you could actually see happening. Possibly the first time Luke Wilson has not been annoying on film. My only complaint is that the female role should have gone to someone a little more unknown so there could be some nudity.

5 Hostel Part 2 - This movie was overlooked/underrated like hell. Less gory but more fulfilling than Part 1, Hostel 2 goes more in depth with the bad guys and gives us some great kill scenes. The ending still sucks and Eli Roth still seems like a tool but his films have gotten a bad rap as of late. Of course, I enjoy Cabin Fever so maybe it's just me.

The Top Ten Worst Films of 2007
In order from least worst to worst worst.

10. Margot at the Wedding - I'm beginning to think Noah Baumbach may be a one-and-done director. The Squid and the Whale was great, a minor masterpiece even, but Kicking and Screaming was shit (not the will ferrel movie) and his follow up, MATW, is pretty dang bad. Maybe it's because I could go the rest of my life without seeing another Nicole Kidman performance, but Margot is a movie where ugly people do stupid things all while moaning about their rich upper class lives in the hamptoms while dressed in that thift store frumpy east coast im an intellectual thing. Oh yeah, and what I said about Nicole Kidman? That can go for Jack Black too (except Be Kind Rewind - go see that). Jennifer Jason Leigh is good but has she shown her tits in every movie she has been in since Fast Times? This may have not been the worst movie of the year, but it was certainly the most disappointing.

9. The Lookout - I see some of you have mentioned this as one of your favorites of the year. Even Richard Roeper had it on his year-end best list but to me it was one of the biggest disappointments. I am a huge Joseph Gordon Levitt fan but Lookout felt like a big misfire all around. You can really tell it is a film from a screenwriter-turned first time film director. Everything about it is preachy and over-handed, hitting you over the head with how cool and different these characters are and how important their inner struggles play. Each one also has the annoying tics, especially the main character (Levitt) which becomes really grating after about 5 minutes. The robbery scene is alright but by that point there is no real tension and then the rest of it just flutters away. Very forgettable.

8. Music & Lyrics The second bad Drew Barrymore movie on the list. Why did I see two Drew Barrymore movies in 07? I don't know, but I don't see it repeating in 08. Hugh Grant hasn't had a good role since Love, Actually (and Bill Nighy stole the show in that one) and here he is basically a putz throughout the whole thing and not in a funny way. This is a one-joke flick about a washed up pop band pretty boy and the best (and only good) bit comes during the opening credits which showcases an old music video of "pop goes my heart". The less said about this one, the better.

7. WAR Worst EVO movie of 2007. One of those classic hoodwinks where the poster promises so much that the movie doesn't deliver. It would not be hard to make a good Jet Li/Jason Statham movie - hell, it practically writes itself. Unfortunately they got someone to write it instead, and got a music video guy to direct it. What we end up with is a flaming turd that is a run of the mill shitty Jet Li movie where they just happen to cast Statham in one of the parts. There is no war, there is no real fight (at least not a martial arts one) just a bunch of lame bs. I dont even remember but wasn't anthony anderson in this one? If not, he should have been, or maybe they should have gotten the kangaroo from kangaroo jack. Lions Gate really let me down on this one. It's like making Segal vs. Van Damme but they just shoot at eachother a few times and they cry in eachothers arms.

6. Spider-man 3 - Now I haven't been big on the Spider-Man movies in the first place (didn't even see the first one in the theater), but Spider-Man 3 was a lot of hype for a lot of crap. You could see the studio interference throughout to the point where Sam Raimi was just like, "ok screw you guys I'll do venom and to make up for it I'll throw in an extended Saturday Night Fever homage." Spidey 3 was that awful that it did what only several mini series' of the 90s could do: making venom lame. Toby Maguire has always been a smug prick and here he gets shown up by who should have been spidey, topher grace, who can actually act and doesn't keep that kicked dog expression on his face the whole time. Oh yeah, and Sandman was in this? And Gwen Stacy? Also this had to be twice as long as POTC 3. This is joyless filmmaking at its worst.

5. Catch & Release - What is it with chick flicks and ampersands? Take Music & Lyrics, take out the credit sequence, add in Kevin Smith and you have this flaming turd. I went into it thinking it was a romantic comedy but it's actually about some dead guy and his loser widow who can't get over him. Kevin Smith doesn't help. There's also some fishing metaphors.

4. Freedom Writers - Remember how Dangerous Minds came out and it sucked, but then The Substitute came out and it was awesome? Yeah, well now we have Freedom Writers out and unfortunately there is no Tom Berenger on the horizon. This is the worst of the worst pseudo-liberal apologetic wankery. The message is basically that it takes a white savior to come into the hood and teach those darkies how to read and stop knifing eachother. Plus it's got Hilary Swank, who is only slightly less manly than Berenger. Long Beach deserved better.

Ok now we are at the worst of the worst...

3. Hatchet - How the POS got any buzz I will never understand. This is a bottom of the barrel Halloween/F13/YouNameIt ripoff wannabe slasher movie about a bunch of morons who go to Mardi Gras and take a haunted swamp boat ride where they meet up with kane hodder in really bad KNB make-up who proceeds to slice and dice them. Evil Dead this is not. I watch a lot of super-low budget horror and there are so many deserving films with actual ideas behind them that arent just trying to be fanboy homages to the shitty films of their childhood.

2. Fantastic Four 2: Rise of the Silver Surfer - I admit it, I liked the first Fantastic Four. It was a kids/family movie and apart from Doctor Doom being lame and Jessica Alba horribly miscast and not being able to act her way out of a paper bag, was a lot of fun and had some really enjoyable scenes. So I liked FF. But let me tell you, I love the Silver Surfer. The surfer was one of the first marvel comics I picked up (behind iron man) when I was a child and I followed him wholeheartedly through the whole Infinity Gauntlet saga (my first major crossover) and beyond through Infinity War and then Herald Quest. The Surfer was my boy. To see him treated so horribly on the bigscreen was I wound I have been unable to recover from. Gone was everything that made him special, cool, or unique. New powers were added, he somehow stole Morpheus's voice, and he didn't even shoot any freakin energy beams or fight Galactus. We also got the second extended dance number in a Marvel movie as well as some left-field power switching bs that they must have stolen from Power Pack. For a franchise I have come to really admire, this one blew up in my face.

1. Dead Silence - You may not believe me, but I gave this one every benefit of the doubt. I liked the first Saw - it wasn't mind blowing but it was a neat little film that looks better and better with each subsequent sequel. Then after you make a ton of money and your name is hot, you go out and make....Dead Silence. A killer ventriloquist homage to Magic. Like I said, I went in wanting to give it a fair shot, I mean how hard is it to make a good little guy killing people movie? 5 Chucky's have done it, 12 Puppet Masters and Dollman and all that crap, right? Wrong. Dead Silence is a disaster at practically ever level. This is quite possibly the most turgid non-remake horror film of the last two decades. The fact that this was not an independent film but made at a major studio with a development executive overlooking the project from the script stage is mind boggling. Let's start with the title - can anyone tell me what the hell is up with everything going silent, usually right before kills or some nonsense? How did that relate to the doll mythology? And the tongue and the brains? Oh yeah, this thing also had some of the crappiest CGI this side of I am Legend, and co-stars the usually laughable Donnie Wahlberg. You know when the Aiden music video is better than the movie it's based on then you've got some real problems. Dead Silence: The WORST movie of 2007

The Runners-Up
The movies that didn't quite make the cut this year: Paprika was the first anime I have seen in a theater in about two years. The animation was great, as was the music, but this is another one that makes little sense and uses a lot of dream logic that gets more frustrating after a while than satisfying. A little more nudity would have been good too. And what's up with her dressed as son son? Once is the best musical I have seen since Staying Alive, even though when you think about it I don't think there are more than 3 songs in the thing. Still I think this will be a big rental and is unlike many films you are likely to see. Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest was all-around better than the second installment and included many thrilling action sequences and some good humor. Both sequels still pale compared to the original though. And finally No Country For Old Men was good, but it was no Blood Simple.

THE TOP TEN FILMS OF 2007

10. Blade Runner: Final Cut - Well it was a theatrical release if you live in a big city. I can't say there is much substantially different in Final Cut but Blade Runner still holds up and provides a fascinating contrast to the standard sci-fi action epic. What is noticeable is the new print, restored and completely cleaned up - this movie has never looked better and seeing it on the big screen was a rare treat.

9. 3:10 to Yuma - Wow, a Russell Crowe movie I actually like. What's next, Denzel Washington makes a good movie? Yuma isn't in the same league as Unforgiven but it is leagues better than the westerns we have been given since (Open Range, etc). The best moments come when the hero/villain archetypes keep getting switched so that by the end you really aren't sure who you should have been rooting for all along. While it could be argued that part of the ending is hollywood cheese, the choice Bale makes at the end and why he chooses to do so really adds a nuance missing from most standard hero tales.

8. Super Bad - Knocked Up without all that relationship crap. Best throwback to an 80s comedy since Can't Hardly Wait (did I just type that?). Everyone has seen this one so no real need to comment.

7. The Wind That Shakes the Barley - this was released in 06 in the rest of the world but 07 in America. Ken Loach is one of the most underrated directors currently working and this tale of the Irish Republican Army in its infancy is a eminently enjoyable and powerful flick. For once a war flick where brother vs. brother doesn't quite play out in conventional dramatics.

6. Control - Is it me or has this not actually been released yet? I dont know wtf they are doing but as a huge Joy Division fan, Control is heaven. This is a very unconventional biopic of Joy Division focusing on tragic lead singer Ian Curtis who hung himself at 27. Awesome black and white photography and great music, the central perfomance is flawless. Hunt this one down.

5. Sicko - Another movie everyone seems to have forgotten about, in the entertainment industry anyway. But if you look at the current political landscape and what is being talked about on the campaign trails, you will see that the latest Michael Moore film did a lot to push health care to the forefront of the national dialogue and really cut through all the right wing crap about "socialized medicine" so that now we are able to focus on the goal of national healthcare again without the moronic mantra communist pinkos, etc. This is a powerful, non-partisan documentary that still gets the repugs up in arms who dont bother to view it (see: jae hoon). The media coverage of the film was pretty shoddy, doing the usual false equivilancy and strive for "balance" over fact but the film speaks for itself.

4. The King of Kong - Wow, 2 documentaries in the top 5?? Now that King of Kong is on dvd people are getting a chance to discover what a fantastic film this is. For the classic video game geek it is even better. So much great stuff in this one from Capt. Awesome to the Mappy champ to Billy being controversial like abortion. Who cares if the filmmakers had a slant - this isn't the history channel.

3. Eastern Promises - I went back and forth on my #2 and #3 pick and they could go either way. Eastern Promises is once again people underestimated David Cronenberg - this guy gets almost no respect but he keeps hitting them out of the park and is one of the only true auteurs still working today. Viggo's performance is head and shoulders above the great perf he gave in History of Violence and the unsung star is sleazy Vincent Cassell who definitely has some repression issues. And then there's the bathhouse scene.

2. There Will Be Blood - I AM A FALSE PROPHET! GOD IS SUPERSTITION!

and the number 1 movie on 2007...

1. GRINDHOUSE - Rented Planet Terror? Received Death Proof from Netflix? Too bad, because you missed the best cinematic experience of 2007. Two films, 4 trailers, unlimited awesomeness. Planet Terror is Rodriguez finally putting it all together. And it's got Michael *$(#& Beihn. The only people who bitch about Death Proof being slow are those who have never actually had to sit through a Grindhouse movie before. I give the slight edge to DP for re-watchability but both are pretty damn spectacular. If you caught this in the theater, you are lucky. Everyone else -tough shit.

EvilSamurai

01-03-2008, 05:20 PM

I completely agree on Disturbia but 300 was way more overrated than Hot Fuzz.

angryliberal

01-03-2008, 05:26 PM

ok, i agree on 300 but in no way do i agree on hot fuzz. hot fuzz was one of the few films i saw this year that genuinely made me laugh...

BananaWeed

01-03-2008, 05:34 PM

Hot Fuzz was slow in starting up, but the ending delivered.

orochizoolander

01-03-2008, 05:41 PM

^^300 wasn't as good as the graphic novel but both were lots of fun and weren't meant to be over-analyzed and dissected the way u have done so i loved 300 not exactly movie of the year but still a very enjoyable action flick:tup:

Zodiac- one of the greatest films i have ever seen my favorite director did this so i guess i'm kinda biased but this was truely an amazing classic i'l be singing praises of this movie for years, almost never have i found myself being drawn into a movies dialog so heavily AND on top of that mark ruffalo owned this movie i was never a fan of his work but he redeemed himself AND to top it all off this is one of the only movies based on a true story that actually holdup faithfully to the facts 9.7/10 :tup:

No country for old men is 2nd best MOTY cohen bros deliver again i'm not in the mood to post a long drawn out review that nobody will read so i'l just say toptier acting matched with an equally toptier story n pacing overall i give it a 9.5/10

I am legend was over hyped as hell and lead me to have high expectations but the movie was pretty decent with a few tense moments but i hated the ending though it wasn't bad enough to ruin the overall experience i'l say 7.5 or MAYBE 8/10.

Transformers was PHAIL AND EPIC WIN at the same time many great moments and many not so great moments, my biggest gripe was that it was a little too focused on humans i hope they get less screen time in the sequel, also the whitegirl figuring out the decpeticons before the entire IT department of the FBI was REDUNKULOUS:looney: The fight scenes were so epic and fast half the time i couldn't tell who was who or what was going on but nonetheless great CGI-candy and fun to watch.I'm torn apart cuz it was kinda mindless/stupid and my inner movie nerd wants to nitpick and cry about the potential not being realized but at the same time i was satisfied with the end result i'l give it a 8.3/10

Hot fuzz was just great overall not the best pacing but who the fuck cares? u go into the theater expecting laughs and cheap action and thats what u get i would say 8.5/10.

Ratatouille was the surprise hit of the year my friends (read female) kept buggin me to go see it so i was dragged to the movie thinking it would be another cheap cash in on a cutesy animal but i was surprised this was worthy of the pixar lineup an instant animated classic FUCK YALL this is a 8/10.

Superbad... "we'll scratch ur back if u scracth ours" "actually the funny thing is my back is located on my COCK":clap: AND this movie had alot of references to undeclared 9.5/10 this is an instant classic comedy rightup there with anchorman, zoolander, blazing saddles, n stir crazy.

Knockedup- a lil more "serious" then superbad but a TINY bit less funny but overall a very well balanced n paced film i loved it and parl rudd owned once again 9/10.

American gangster was overhyped and had a few weak parts but it was a very good barely reaching short of greatness i liked the honesty and and the contrast between gritty truth and flashiness of the lifestyle i give it a low 8.

Sweeny todd when i saw the trailer i thought it was edward scissorhands the sequel but when i saw it was a pseudo-musical weird story i was pleasently surprised good music, good acting by JD, overall a solid flick 8.5/10.

MrQuotes

01-03-2008, 05:42 PM

i agree w/ the consensus on hot fuzz

300 was overrated but i still loved it.

angryliberal

01-03-2008, 05:44 PM

i may be opening a can of worms here, but i do't think pg has a huge respect for comedy...

Pablo_the_Mex

01-03-2008, 05:44 PM

Gladiator overrated!? Blasphemy.

angryliberal

01-03-2008, 05:45 PM

gladiator was a shit film and 2 hours of my life i will never get back...

yeah, i said it...

goodm0urning

01-03-2008, 05:54 PM

3. 300 - The graphic novel was shallow and straightforward, so was the movie. Yeah it was cool, yeah there were some fun battles and character moments, but overall was this even a good movie? It's fun, it's stylish, it's incredibly homoerotic, but it isn't the best movie of the year, and really isn't even better than Gladiator, which itself is overrated. I'll agree that it was overrated--most things that get intense hype are--but I would most definitely say it was a good movie. A good action flick has to do a few simple things: get you to root for the main characters, develop a sense of suspense to the action sequences, and keep the pace nice and brisk. While it is fair to say that the movie-only moments were filler and slowed things down a bit too much in a few instances, it ended up being a minor issue. It was very good overall, though I'll agree with you that many of the movies this year were better.

EvilSamurai

01-03-2008, 06:13 PM

I'll agree that it was overrated--most things that get intense hype are--but I would most definitely say it was a good movie. A good action flick has to do a few simple things: get you to root for the main characters, develop a sense of suspense to the action sequences, and keep the pace nice and brisk. While it is fair to say that the movie-only moments were filler and slowed things down a bit too much in a few instances, it ended up being a minor issue. It was very good overall, though I'll agree with you that many of the movies this year were better.

300 is basically just a 21st century version of Conan the Barbarian that has inferior music but slightly better acting. Also, the entire subplot with Queen Gorgo and the corrupt senator was not in the comic and just ruined the pace of the film.

gladiator was a shit film and 2 hours of my life i will never get back...

yeah, i said it...

Gladiator was great except for the cheesy subplot about restoring the republic. Maximus should have just killed the little bitch Commodus and either:

1) died.

2) shacked up with Commodus's sister and ruled the empire with her son as a puppet.

The only thing better than Russel Crowe killing tigers is Russel Crowe killing tigers with a telephone.

Kuya

01-03-2008, 06:56 PM

I'd also have to agree on Hot Fuzz....slow to start up - but towards the end the awesomeness became unbrockable :lol:

rsigley

01-03-2008, 07:26 PM

my big complaint with hot fuzz was the editing, it gave me a headache. way too fast paced.

vacancy - i agree, in the theater when the ending happened i was like ok now for the twist. then nothing and the movie was over. i was so happy cause i was waiting for that for so long and a movie finally did it.

SwmmrManShen

01-03-2008, 07:29 PM

i personally loved Hot Fuzz, thought it did the whole parody shtick real well.

angryliberal

01-03-2008, 07:30 PM

the quick editing didn't bug me in theory, but the reality is that they used it too damn much - but i still don't think that qualifies the film as "over rated"

EvilSamurai

01-03-2008, 07:30 PM

5 Hostel Part 2 - This movie was overlooked/underrated like hell.

I agree 100% with this. Hostel completely crushes Saw in the battle of the torture porn franchises.

X-Death

01-03-2008, 07:31 PM

I just want to give a shout-out to The Lookout, and a fuck you to the Aqua Teen movie. I love the first two ATHF seasons, but this movie was 3 hours of shit. Except the intro.

Morphiend

01-03-2008, 07:37 PM

no way is gladiator overrated. russel crowe was awesome in it. the scene where he comes home to find his wife and son murdered was incredible acting.

300 was indeed overrated as was disturbia. my wife and gave up on hot fuzz about 40 minutes in. i didn't like transformers. i dont know what it was about it but it just didn't do it for me. i think i expected it to be too much like generation one and it fucked up the movie for me.

my favorite movie of the year is probably superbad though. it had me bust out laughing so many times.

angryliberal

01-03-2008, 07:41 PM

gladiator is more over rated than asians girls on srk...

goodm0urning

01-03-2008, 07:46 PM

I was utterly dumbfounded by ATHF:MFFT at first, but my appreciation for it has increased since then. The kind of humor provided by the show is a bit much to take in a 90 minute chunk, but I can't say it wasn't consistently involving the whole time.

As for Hostel 2, the fact that you acknowledge it as anything other than a flaming blood-filled turd makes me question your sanity.

rsigley

01-03-2008, 07:51 PM

I agree 100% with this. Hostel completely crushes Saw in the battle of the torture porn franchises.

is there even nudity in the saw series? i didn't see 4 and the only boobs i can think of was the girl hanging in 3

i don't remember any nudity in 1 or 2

so hard to be a torture porn movie when there's no porn part

Darkstalker

01-03-2008, 08:01 PM

angryliberal

01-03-2008, 08:01 PM

i may be wrong in evilsamurai's definition, but the term "torture porno" does not refer specifically to nudity or sex, but instead os comparing the similarities between porn and these types of films. in non-gonzo porn, the "plot" is driven by the sex. a situation is composed simply to get to the sex. personally, i feel the same way about the plots of movies like hostel - the main drive is simply to get to the torture, and around this drive is constructed a very flimsy plot. now, i'm no huge horror fan, but the stories of hostel and hostel two were weak at best. the toture just didn't bug me because there was such a weak story around it.

but that's how i've defined these type of movies as "torture porn", or gore porn which is what i usually call them.

goodm0urning

01-03-2008, 08:04 PM

What is ATHF:MFFT?Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film For Theaters.

rsigley

01-03-2008, 08:13 PM

angryliberal

01-03-2008, 08:20 PM

hmmm...good question...i don't think we can blame it for the revival of the genre, but it may be the oldest torture porno story ever put on screen...

rsigley

01-03-2008, 08:23 PM

box

01-03-2008, 08:25 PM

Yeah. I gotta agree that 300 was overated. As was Transformers.

Personally some of my favorites this year included Ratatouille and Live Free or Die Hard.

angryliberal

01-03-2008, 08:27 PM

not to derail, but i definately got erect watching jesus get his ass beat on the screen

maybe more so from the people crying watching their savior act like a bitch

if i wasn't in the theater i probably woulda beat it

i saw that with a girl i was trying to bang when i saw that in the theaters...her choice, not mine - it was so hard not to just bust out laughing and cheering during that movie...

i'm just waiting to see if superbad makes pg's top ten worst...i don't think mainstream comedy is his thing...

Darkstalker

01-03-2008, 08:30 PM

Yeah. I gotta agree that 300 was overated. As was Transformers.

Personally some of my favorites this year included Ratatouille and Live Free or Die Hard.

Ratatouille was excellent. Definitely my personal pick for movie of the year. Stardust is secure in a somewhat distant second though.

Shade

01-03-2008, 08:30 PM

Disturbia "overrated"? Wha?

BananaWeed

01-03-2008, 08:31 PM

Superbad & Knocked Up were two of 2007's best.

Sasmasta

01-03-2008, 08:32 PM

Superbad was dope.

Knocked Up was aight. It should've ended alot sooner than it did in my opinion. It was just dragging near the end.

angryliberal

01-03-2008, 09:09 PM

Knocked Up was aight. It should've ended alot sooner than it did in my opinion. It was just dragging near the end.

i felt that way when i walked out of the theater, but it seemed better paced my second time through...

rsigley

01-03-2008, 09:13 PM

i nominate knocked up for intro of the year

the guys just messing around with ODB in the background, can't beat that

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ujJAe-F6eKQ

Draeger

01-03-2008, 09:42 PM

Here's my list in no particular order:

No Country For Old Men
The Kite Runner
Lust, Caution
Charlie Wilson's War
Juno
The Namesake
Time
American Gangster
Superbad

uknowuwishuwereme

01-03-2008, 09:48 PM

1408 was pretty good.

GamerTron

01-03-2008, 10:20 PM

seriously, fuck the live action transformers movie. i detest that trash. its all about the animated transformers movie. while we're on the subject, fuck the fantastic four movies and fuck all three x-men movies. x-men wont ever be as good as the 90's animated series. they need to stop making these shits into live action and keep em animated.

maxx

01-03-2008, 10:24 PM

Disturbia "overrated"? Wha?

lol barely anyone i knew saw it and the people who did thought it was ok to good. i thought it was good. but it never went beyond that..dunno how its overrated. wasnt a big hype factor going into the movie.

Luciano Leone

01-03-2008, 10:26 PM

Its a movie created specifically for middle/high school age guys to take middle/high school age bitches in an attempt to get laid

See: One Missed Call, etc

It was alright, I went in expecting a teen thriller (which it was) but shit there was alot of comedy in it (intentional and unintentional)

AdverseSolutions

01-04-2008, 12:16 AM

*subs*

TheSix

01-04-2008, 12:23 AM

1408 was pretty good.

True dat.

Stop sleeping on Hitman. People got shot. Shit blew up. What the fuck else do you want? Oh...video game accuracy? Makes sense.

Still was fine for a random Tuesday night movie.

Wellman

01-04-2008, 12:29 AM

300 while a bit overrated was still the first really good blockbuster of the year. I enjoyed the hell out of it, it wasn't meant to be deep but unlike other films of its type, they did mess things up being accidentally funny, except for the freak orgy. Still a really good film.

Transformers was the best summer blockbuster I can remember, while flawed it still was the best thing Micheal Bay was related to his career so far. It could have turned up a whole lot worst, although the dumb shit occassionaly worked in its favor. Although the human interaction got lame as hell by the end of the movie.

Movie of the Year (IMO): No Country for Old Men, it was the most thrilling movie I'd seen in theathers for 80-90% of the runtime before the end. It should be seen to believed.

i never heard the term torture porn before, i always thought movies like saw were splatter cinema

Actually another term for movies like Saw, Hostel and other gory 'horror' film is softcore 'Snuff' films. But really, I actually care much for that genre, give me good old fashion even (or near it) playing field violence over that stalking and out the bushes shit.

I am surprised no one has mentioned Rob Zombie's Halloween, I know when it first came out a whole bunch of people hated it. Frankly other than the slow ass start it was ok.

goodm0urning

01-04-2008, 01:10 AM

Zombie's Halloween was ass. It would be a workmanlike slasher flick in its own right, but put it next to the original version and its flaws stand out painfully.

The only cool things about it were the Shape being 7'0" tall (which just flat out works for the character), and Malcolm McDowell being in it (and he doesn't really do anything special, but come on--he's Malcolm fucking McDowell).

Will Gotti

01-04-2008, 01:23 AM

Most Overrated Films of 2007
2. Disturbia - Lame Rear Window re-tread feels like a vhs tape that dropped off the back of the TriMark bankruptcy truck. How did this movie become a hit again? You get Shia in all his LeBoufiness and Brian Cox as a deranged killer (imagine that). Snore inducing.

Brian Cox? :wtf: He wasn't in Disturbia try David Morse.

**UPDATED**

Guilty Pleasures of 2007
5 Hostel Part 2 - This movie was overlooked/underrated like hell. Less gory but more fulfilling than Part 1, Hostel 2 goes more in depth with the bad guys and gives us some great kill scenes. The ending still sucks and Eli Roth still seems like a tool but his films have gotten a bad rap as of late. Of course, I enjoy Cabin Fever so maybe it's just me.
Eli Roth always seems like a tool but his movies also seem to be cool and enjoyable. In terms of fitting in with directors like Tarantino, Rodriguez and Zombie, he's like Chico from The Magnificent Seven.

Superking

01-04-2008, 05:38 AM

I just want to give a shout-out to The Lookout

I too will give props to The Lookout.

Still feel bad about the Deputy. ='(

Oh well he went down fighting.

matrix9280

01-04-2008, 06:11 AM

Is this thread about the best movies in 2007 or the most obscure movies that some snooty fruity wannabe art critics can come up with in 2007?

If it's the former I liked 300, Transformers, Knocked Up, Superbad, American Gangster and that's pretty much it.

Darkstalker

01-04-2008, 06:14 AM

I just realised that nobody in this thread has mentioned Shoot Em Up in any way, shape or form.

I'm not sure what to make of this.

ToyRobotTerror

01-04-2008, 06:17 AM

WAR is one of the worst i have seen.

valaris

01-04-2008, 06:18 AM

I've been out of the new release circle for a while but this year I enjoyed
Shoot 'Em up
Hot Fuzz: I really enjoyed it.( Even more the second time around since halfway through I started making out with the girl I'm now dating since then :P. )
Bourne Ultimatum: I'm a sucker for the whole trilogy

I wasn't a big fan of Transformers. I had no interest in Superbad nor Knocked up. I don't plan on seeing either in a while. Everyone hyped them up to be the second coming of Christ and I know if I watch them now I'll be disappointed.I watched Eastern Promises and was hoping for a lot more actiono than was delivered.

Does DOA classify as one of the worst movies? Shit writing but entertaining to watch.

I just realised that nobody in this thread has mentioned Shoot Em Up in any way, shape or form.

I'm not sure what to make of this.

:rofl: I was writing this as you posted.

angryliberal

01-04-2008, 07:06 AM

i saw shoot em up for one reason, and one reason only - monica. as far as that goes, it delivered - as a movie it was meh at best. i'm starting to get annoyed with clive owen, he's a good actor, but he needs to branch out, his performances are getting rather played out...

Weta

01-04-2008, 07:16 AM

I was going through my IMDB ratings, and I've given almost nothing from 2007 a good rating except:

King of Kong (Fistful of Quarters) <---- highly recommended.
The Bourne Ultimatum
The Simpsons Movie.. everyone else hated this, right? I like the modern Simpsons, so sue me.

My worst rating was given to a film I was really looking forward to .. Rush Hour 3.

Darkstalker

01-04-2008, 07:21 AM

King of Kong is awesomesauce. So was Bourne and I liked Simpsons too.

The reason I mentioned Shoot Em Up was that I liked it, a lot, probably my third fave movie below Ratatouille and Stardust. Over the top action for no conceivable reason and Monica Belucci. That can do no wrong in my world.

EDIT: What the fuck am I saying? I mention King of Kong and forget to account for it being one of my fave movies? King of Kong ties with Ratatouille as fave movie of 2007.

Will Gotti

01-04-2008, 07:35 AM

asianhitler

01-04-2008, 07:44 AM

Best film: Ratatouille
Worst film: Happy Feet

Geese Pants

01-04-2008, 07:51 AM

My favorite 2007 movies in no particualr order:

Bourne Ultimatum - The Bourne Series is IMO one of the few that were as good, or better as sequels went. Each Bourne Movie held its own as a crowd pleaser.

Transformers - This movie made me feel like a kid again........I think it's because of Peter Cullen reprising his role as Prime.

Pirates of the Carribean 3 - Barbosa looted this movie..........

American Gangster - Solid performances by Crowe and Washington..............even though the movie had historical inaccuracies

Ghost Rider - Yes.............I am aware that I may be one of the 10 people that enjoyed this popcorn flick.

Then there are the movies that dissapointed me..............

We Own the Night - That movie was so boring. I was so close to walking out.

Spiderman 3 - This movie would've been so much better of Peter, Mary Jane, and Eddie Brock were pushed down some stairs.........the whole time. It was a mess from the get go.

versus addict

01-04-2008, 08:35 AM

Rob Zombie's Halloween was fucking great....

War was also teh hawtness

MrQuotes

01-04-2008, 08:46 AM

war and spiderman 3 rank up as two of the biggest sacks of shit from 2007

3:10 to yuma gets some props from me, and while i enjoyed american gangster it wasnt overtly great.

Will Gotti

01-04-2008, 08:52 AM

war and spiderman 3 rank up as two of the biggest sacks of shit from 2007

3:10 to yuma gets some props from me, and while i enjoyed american gangster it wasnt overtly great.

Seriously on Spiderman 3. I didn't see War or 3:10 to Yuma. Spiderman 3 had way too many important characters to focus on. Tobey looked like an emo idiot near the later half acting goofy, Harry and Eddie went out like bitches. It was just overall not good.

box

01-04-2008, 09:00 AM

Yeah Stardust was quite good as well. My favorites this year included Ratatouille, Live Free or Die Hard, Stardust, Superbad.

Didn't like Transformers, or Spidey 3.

Darkstalker

01-04-2008, 09:03 AM

Fuck, I seem to forget that I watched lots of movies this year. Particularly missing was Enchanted, also one of my faves, probably like it as much as Shoot Em Up, for drastically different reasons of course.

Hot Fuzz was pretty good, but not something extraordinary, I thought. Oh well.

Infested Jester

01-04-2008, 09:06 AM

GrindHouse was easily my favorite for the year.

matrix9280

01-04-2008, 09:15 AM

I can't wait until the new Rambo movie comes out. That's going to be like the first good movie of 2008.

rsigley

01-04-2008, 10:17 AM

not every movie released is a summer blockbuster or part of a franchise

yet almost everyones movies in the past couple pages have all been those

branch out

and i think anthony anderson was busy so they got Luis Guzmán instead for War

P. Gorath

01-04-2008, 10:38 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0A7dtdc-nU

specs

01-04-2008, 10:53 AM

Children of Men deserves a spot on the top 10 best... if not THE best.

angryliberal

01-04-2008, 10:59 AM

children of men was 2006...

TheSix

01-04-2008, 11:10 AM

The Simpsons was a huge disappointment. It might as well have been a huge episode like "Who shot Mr. Burns."

Except both of those episodes had single jokes that were funnier than the whole movie.

I enjoyed the Simpson's movie(mainly because it's the simpsons....on a big screen). I just think they tried too hard to be epic when it really could have just been about SideShow Bob trying to kill Bart for 1 hour and 30 minutes.

Hardly one of the worst movies though.

specs

01-04-2008, 11:20 AM

children of men was 2006...

Right, right, I forgot. My bad!

Larry Flynt

01-04-2008, 11:32 AM

gladiator was a shit film and 2 hours of my life i will never get back...

yeah, i said it...

Hell fucking yes!!! I thought me and my friend was the only one who thought this. The only thing I liked about this movie was the music. But people try to make it out like it was the classic and the storyline was so original:rolleyes:That movie can kiss my ass!

Satomiblood

01-04-2008, 11:42 AM

American Gangster was good, although a lot of people will or have called it the black Scarface. I just love Ridley Scott as a director and I think Crowe, Washington, and the rest of the cast was perfectly crafted.

Transformers was solid. One of my faves for 2007 and all-time. And Michael Bay, despite it's flaws, did a very good job. The CGI is the best I have ever seen. Period. First movie where CGI based characters actually blended seamlessly with their environment.

I know people like to bitch about how it wasn't G1 or how the robot designs were terrible, but they worked in this movie. Thousands of moving parts, robots with a very alien look, and memorable transformation sequences.

The Bourne Ultimatum was excellent. It stayed consistent with the first two in terms of story and quality. Another well-cast movie. People may have hated the handheld camera method but I wouldn't have changed it.

No Country for Old Men. I read the novel last year. The film, outside of Chigur's background, was pretty spot on.

P. Gorath

01-04-2008, 11:46 AM

tony scott > ridley scott

Satomiblood

01-04-2008, 12:17 PM

He's got a pretty good resume.

SunocO

01-04-2008, 01:06 PM

anyone watch Before the Devil Knows You're Dead? One of the best movies i've seen in 2007.

BananaWeed

01-04-2008, 01:11 PM

The best thing about the Transformers movie was Starscream. Starscream>all. Oh, Barricade was pretty badass too.

MrQuotes

01-04-2008, 01:20 PM

starscream fuckin up other Raptors = omfg boner

P. Gorath

01-04-2008, 01:37 PM

jesus with the transformers talk

*Updated

rsigley

01-04-2008, 01:45 PM

transformers are bitches anyway, they spend all day looking at ebay listings looking for a pair of glasses

what kind of losers do that

{PFH}-Lake

01-04-2008, 02:29 PM

Wasnt Rob Zombies Halloween pretty crappy?

EvilSamurai

01-04-2008, 03:49 PM

I am not sure what the best film of the year is but Viggo Mortensen should win best actor simply for being good in a movie that does not involve gay midgets throwing a ring into a volcano.

anyone watch Before the Devil Knows You're Dead? One of the best movies i've seen in 2007.

I thought it was good.

MaxD

01-04-2008, 05:39 PM

gladiator is more over rated than asians girls on srk...

<--- :sad::annoy::arazz:

rcaido

01-04-2008, 05:54 PM

Music & Lyrics was a great film...One of the better romantic comedies i've seen from the US...

Anyway here's my top 10 that i've seen...

1. 3:10 to Yuma
2. Zodiac
3. Mr. Brooks
4. Spiderman 3
5. Easter Promises
6. Stardust
7. Ratatouille
8. Transformer
9. Die Hard
10. Death Proof

Didn't get a chance to see Rescue Dawn & Assassination of Jesse Jame but will probably like it...I only watch movies when it comes out on DVD so whatever is not out i havent seen it yet...Transformer & 3:10 Yuma was the only two movies i saw in the theater...

Luciano Leone

01-04-2008, 05:59 PM

I cant help but notice American Gangster is barely anywhere in this thread.. so Id like to say that it was my fav movie of 07 and Denzel's fuckin great.

Will Gotti

01-04-2008, 06:05 PM

I cant help but notice American Gangster is barely anywhere in this thread.. so Id like to say that it was my fav movie of 07 and Denzel's fuckin great.

It's been mentioned by a number of people.

goodm0urning

01-04-2008, 06:08 PM

I felt the same way about Spider-Man 3 as I did the new Die Hard movie: I couldn't bring myself to say that it was an all-out piece of crap, since it has its moments, but it's just generally crummy. It's frustrating that, of all the good elements, none of them are as good as they should be, and that the bad elements are so prominent. Not outright horrible... just disappointingly mediocre. Whoever it was (P. Gorath?) who said it was joyless filmmaking hit it right on the head.

Death Proof, 3:10 To Yuma, Ratatouille, the Great Debaters, Charlie Wilson's War, In the Shadow of the Moon, Beowulf, and Michael Clayton were all very worthwhile. I'd put the Bourne Ultimatum on the list, but I'd have to dose Greengrass's camera man with a horse tranquilizer first. 1408 was surprisingly decent for a modern horror flick. Superbad was amusing enough.

I think that's a pretty good list for me. Hardly organized, but it's what I liked in '07.

Wellman

01-04-2008, 07:08 PM

^
Couldn't have surmissed Spiderman 3 better myself without going into a 4+ paragraph rant.

MrQuotes

01-04-2008, 09:59 PM

im so glad that freedom writers was put as one of the worst films of this year. my college english writing professor told me to watch this movie because it was so amazing and it made him cry and shit, and i was like ok i'll d/l it and give it a try. it was the biggest waste of fucking time in my life, and you mentioned just about every grievance i had w/ that movie.

i would add beowulf to overrated. i understand the original story that was written was barely interesting, but why turn it into some hokey love triangle bullshit story, and wtf is w/ beowulf naked?

Sheng-Long

01-04-2008, 10:39 PM

Music & Lyrics? I think your Drew Barrymore hate is clouding your judgment Gorath!

No "Who's Your Caddy?", no "Epic Movie"? no "Norbit?" (I don't blame you guys for forgetting though)

Taito

01-04-2008, 10:54 PM

EvilSamurai

01-04-2008, 11:11 PM

Is it necessary to analyze Spider-man 3? I heard Raimi sabotaged and bookended the series to rebel against the bigwigs demanding a Venom movie. Raimi wanted to adapt oldschool pre-McFarlane Spider-man, and when Sony butted in he lost interest in the franchise.

That is basically the gist of it. Anyway, I think the first two spiderman movies were highly overrated too. The second was ok due to Alfred Molina but in the first, William Dafoe looked like a fucking Power Ranger villain. There is no need to dress up William Dafoe as a Power Ranger as the dude looks scary as shit to begin with. When I saw The Last Temptation of Christ (best jesus movie ever. vampire hunter is also good), I half-expected Harvey Keitel and him to have some sort of hyper-violent fight to the death (not gore porn passion of the crist/saw fight to the death with them pulling out and eating each others organs but a but rather traditional scorsese style gritty violence fight to the death. a lone wolf and cub style fight would also havew been bad ass.)

AdverseSolutions

01-04-2008, 11:25 PM

kevin smith needs to be strangled

Taito

01-04-2008, 11:31 PM

That is basically the gist of it. Anyway, I think the first two spiderman movies were highly overrated too. The second was ok due to Alfred Molina but in the first, William Dafoe looked like a fucking Power Ranger villain. There is no need to dress up William Dafoe as a Power Ranger as the dude looks scary as shit to begin with.
Yeah I agree with that.. I would've preferred a more realistic take on the Spider-man universe, like the new Batman movie series (but don't make it all super serious). Just put Norm Osborne in makeup and the jet sleigh thing instead of the Power Ranger crap.

I don't think highly of the Spiderman series either but part 2 was really good in parts.

goodm0urning

01-05-2008, 01:44 AM

The first Spider-Man film had an excellent first half and a disinteresting second half. The moment he actually puts on the red and blue tights, it becomes perfunctory. The second one was a lot better balanced, but it rehashed a bunch of crap from the first film to pad out the length of the film, which was completely stupid.

To change the subject completely, I saw Juno this evening, and it was very good. Ellen Page may have supplanted Scarlett Johannson as my current favorite early 20-something actress. J.K. Simmons was marvelous in it as well.

Back to Spider-Man... J.K. Simmons again. Literally every scene he is in just kicks so much ass. Simmons as Jameson is unquestionably the greatest casting decision ever made in a superhero movie.

Gerjay_2001

01-05-2008, 02:24 AM

First off, I don't understand what's with all the love for No Country for Old Men. I loved the style, I loved the acting, and I loved the suspense and reality of everything that was happening. The great camera work, the big screen desert and the absence of a soundtrack made it extremely unique. And the pacing... oh wait, maybe not.

The movie was EASILY the best movie of the year up until around 1 hour and 30 minutes in. After that the movie hit the biggest drag I've ever seen in film. Sure, if you've read the novel, and you enjoy the storytelling of the last act then I can understand how you might find it bearable. But for somebody who is viewing the movie for what it is, the last portion of the movie was terrible, bleak and rather pointless other than allowing the viewer to contemplate everything that they'd rather be doing instead of sitting there watching a great movie fall to pieces.

It slowed to a crawl and the dialogue lost its magic. For a movie that had me at the edge of my seat just listening to two people discuss a coin flip. . . the movie really lost its steam. Sure Tommy Lee Jones picked it up with his monologue at the very end, but that didn't even make up for what happeend. No movie that loses its pace should ever, and hopefully in this case will never make itself known as a classic.

Okay, sorry for that rant, but I just can't stand hearing all the critics saying this is the best movie of the year when in all reality the last 30 minutes or so let down a movie that could have gone down as one of the greatest films ever. . .

As for my top films for the year, in no order. . .

- Sweeny Todd
- Across the Universe
- Once (Yeah, this year saw a lot of musicals actually done well. . . and once was a movie that seemed to be great with barely any diaglogue, it was the only musical where the songs seemed natural)
- American Gangster
- Ratatouille (Don't tell me it wasn't good... its easily the best animated film this year)
- There Will Be Blood
- Before The Devil Knows You're Dead
- No Country for Old Men (Yeah, I know I just said I didn't like it, but the majority of the film is done perfect :P I still hate the last half hour and I'd still bet it wins the oscar. . .)
- Mr. Brooks (Sure plenty of people hated it, but I just don't see why. I think it was amazing.)

And my personal #1:

3:10 to Yuma

And some runner ups...

- Zodiac
- Knocked Up/Superbad/Walk Hard for making comedy movies worth watching again, with Knocked Up possibly being my favourite comedy of all-time.

valaris

01-05-2008, 03:10 AM

kevin smith needs to be strangled

I completely disagree but any reasons why?

OrangeCat

01-05-2008, 04:13 AM

I just wanted to chime in and say that Fantasic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer was totally mislabeled. It should have been Fantastic Four: Super Skrull vs. Doom 2099.

OC

HeaT

01-05-2008, 11:03 AM

The movie was EASILY the best movie of the year up until around 1 hour and 30 minutes in. After that the movie hit the biggest drag I've ever seen in film. Sure, if you've read the novel, and you enjoy the storytelling of the last act then I can understand how you might find it bearable. But for somebody who is viewing the movie for what it is, the last portion of the movie was terrible, bleak and rather pointless other than allowing the viewer to contemplate everything that they'd rather be doing instead of sitting there watching a great movie fall to pieces.

It slowed to a crawl and the dialogue lost its magic. For a movie that had me at the edge of my seat just listening to two people discuss a coin flip. . . the movie really lost its steam. Sure Tommy Lee Jones picked it up with his monologue at the very end, but that didn't even make up for what happeend. No movie that loses its pace should ever, and hopefully in this case will never make itself known as a classic.

Okay, sorry for that rant, but I just can't stand hearing all the critics saying this is the best movie of the year when in all reality the last 30 minutes or so let down a movie that could have gone down as one of the greatest films ever. . .

i dont understand what the problem is if it stop to a crawl??? especially if it is at the end???

never mind the fact that this was done for a reason, one that most people dont understand and think its boring that they have to actually think about a movie...

i can see if you say that it came to a crawl and the last 30 min was POINTLESS, that would make sense and validate why would you say this is a bad thing pacing wise...but you gave no real reason why this was a bad thing...

im outi

Roberth

rsigley

01-05-2008, 10:13 PM

i just copped dat hatchet thanks to your raving review

can't wait to watch it

Satomiblood

01-05-2008, 10:40 PM

So I watched Juno today (finally). I'd consider that as one of the top for 2007.

Wellman

01-05-2008, 11:44 PM

Is it necessary to analyze Spider-man 3? I heard Raimi sabotaged and bookended the series to rebel against the bigwigs demanding a Venom movie. Raimi wanted to adapt oldschool pre-McFarlane Spider-man, and when Sony butted in he lost interest in the franchise.

In a way I get that, but it was still a dickmove for poor movie going fans and the relatives that knew it would be fucked up but had to get dragged along anyway. Truthfully, the only Spiderman movie I really enjoyed was 2, I hated the first one not only because of the Goblin costume but the fact that I had to relive that origin for the hundredth time made the hour spent on it seem like a waste of my life. With shit like F4 you know what you are getting cause of the limited run time, but Spidey 3 was just a hateful thing to do to Spiderman fans that like Venom and still have taste.

Beowulf is the first time I have ever thanked God for a studio making what was probably meant to be a R film into PG-13. I enjoyed the twist on the Beowulf story but the fact that damn near all the fights had him naked or damn near was too blatant. Still, I enjoyed it more than I thought I would, so like Transformers it was a pleasant surprise.

orochizoolander

01-06-2008, 01:26 AM

Thread should have ended after my post. *runs away*

01-06-2008, 03:28 AM

Your reviews suck. Ratatouille gets an 8? Yeah, no. That shit deserves higher.

Pained Auron

01-06-2008, 11:57 AM

i saw war yesterday. man what a letdown

orochizoolander

01-06-2008, 12:09 PM

Ratatouille gets an 8? Yeah, no. That shit deserves higher.

...Your right.

MrQuotes

01-06-2008, 01:37 PM

i saw war yesterday. man what a letdown

tell me... you didnt pay money for that?

Pained Auron

01-06-2008, 02:20 PM

tell me... you didnt pay money for that?

i'll say yes so gabe doesn't try to kill me. you do know that pg is a serial killer in his spare time right?

01-06-2008, 02:24 PM

tell me... you didnt pay money for that?

Painy has horrible tastes. And yes, PG is a serial killer in his spare time. I've seen the bodies.

MrQuotes

01-06-2008, 02:36 PM

thats awesome
PG send me a copy of your book when youre finished writing it in prison

Satomiblood

01-06-2008, 02:38 PM

transformers are bitches anyway, they spend all day looking at ebay listings looking for a pair of glasses

what kind of losers do that

I feel like I could relate to the robots more this way.

Pained Auron

01-06-2008, 02:43 PM

Painy has horrible tastes. And yes, PG is a serial killer in his spare time. I've seen the bodies.

i just had to see it. i couldn't believe that the movie was that bad. also ds, let's not forget who liked ww3. it wasn't me. it was you. so i wouldn't go around saying other people have bad taste if i were you :arazz: plus, it's not like i paid for the movie (i only say yes if pg asks me)

DrumlinerJoe

01-06-2008, 02:49 PM

i didn't like transformers.

Thank you. I was with the movie for about halfway through, but once they introduce Sector 7 and the scene with the Autobots in the garden, the movie just degenerated into silliness.

N-Ken

01-06-2008, 02:58 PM

Note to self, disregard anyones opinion who thought transformers was decent.

Fuck Michael Bay

Spider Man 3 was shit cause 1 and 2 were shit also.

DrumlinerJoe

01-06-2008, 02:58 PM

Children of Men deserves a spot on the top 10 best... if not THE best.

*POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

I don't know about that. I watched the director's commentary on the DVD and he talked about the subtle political commentary and all. I think it was pretty much shoved in your face the entire time. And I don't think the "pull my finger" death scene came off the way it was supposed to.

And while I realize that a lot of sci-fi usually has to do with political commentaries, I was hoping for some kind of explanation to the whole birth thing. It was disappointing not to know the cause.

What I will say though, is that the last 30 minutes were extremley intense and very powerful. It really made the whole movie worth watching just to see the ending.

TheSix

01-06-2008, 03:01 PM

I nominate American Gangster as well.

Denz is constantly just too fucking beastly.

jae hoon

01-06-2008, 03:03 PM

Watched The Good Shepard damn good movie. One of the best I have seen this year.

Satomiblood

01-06-2008, 03:06 PM

Fuck Michael Bay

That's quite an original sentiment.

goodm0urning

01-06-2008, 03:55 PM

I don't know about that. I watched the director's commentary on the DVD and he talked about the subtle political commentary and all. I think it was pretty much shoved in your face the entire time. And I don't think the "pull my finger" death scene came off the way it was supposed to.

And while I realize that a lot of sci-fi usually has to do with political commentaries, I was hoping for some kind of explanation to the whole birth thing. It was disappointing not to know the cause.

What I will say though, is that the last 30 minutes were extremley intense and very powerful. It really made the whole movie worth watching just to see the ending.The reason Kee was able to get pregnant while nobody else could isn't important to the arc of the story, and might have actually made the film less enjoyable if the mystery were taken away. It's best left to the viewer's imagination so that the more pertinent part of the story can get underway.

Like Stanley Kubrick said, would the Mona Lisa be as good as it is if Da Vinci had written "She's smiling because she's hiding a secret from her lover" at the bottom of it?

jae hoon

01-06-2008, 03:57 PM

Children of Men is an alright movie the first time you see it. It is basically good for one viewing and that is it.

DrumlinerJoe

01-06-2008, 04:06 PM

The reason Kee was able to get pregnant while nobody else could isn't important to the arc of the story, and might have actually made the film less enjoyable if the mystery were taken away. It's best left to the viewer's imagination so that the more pertinent part of the story can get underway.

Like Stanley Kubrick said, would the Mona Lisa be as good as it is if Da Vinci had written "She's smiling because she's hiding a secret from her lover" at the bottom of it?

Like I said, I know the fantasical elements in most sci-fi stories takes a back seat to the plot and ideas. I just don't think the rest of the characters and story were compelling enough to get away with not delving deeper into the question as to why the births aren't happening.

Gerjay_2001

01-06-2008, 07:12 PM

i dont understand what the problem is if it stop to a crawl??? especially if it is at the end???

never mind the fact that this was done for a reason, one that most people dont understand and think its boring that they have to actually think about a movie...

i can see if you say that it came to a crawl and the last 30 min was POINTLESS, that would make sense and validate why would you say this is a bad thing pacing wise...but you gave no real reason why this was a bad thing...

im outi

Roberth

Its not boring to have to think about a movie, its boring when they feel the need to draw out the 'thoughts' for 30 minutes with pointless scenes. The rest of the movie had excellent pacing, while slower than most movies, the dialogue made up for everything as well as the pure, cold reality that it displayed. The last 30 minutes painted the most bleak and unfortunately boring picture. Its not boring because it left you thinking about everything that happened (even though you seem to think you're one of the few who 'understood' the movie), it was boring because the last 30 minutes were a complete distraction from what was happening before, and aside from Tommy Lee's monologue at the very end, they were in fact completely pointless.

I don't think they needed to show the car accident at all, I think it would have made the picture more complete if it wasn't there. It was a 10 minute scene that somehow found a way to make a car accident boring. There was nothing developed by it. There was no plot movement and it didn't even get you thinking. All that scene did was show you a kid helping out one of the best villains in film history. Maybe the novel made it seem better, I wouldn't know, but from a moviegoer's point of view it seemed completely pointless. Chigur was already developed amazingly well, this scene didn't further his development nor did it advance the plot, and it didn't even get you thinking about anything. . .

The scene where Tommy Lee is talking to the black guy is also completely worthless. Its the same reason I hate the second matrix movie. Instead of leaving the underlying morals of the movie hidden and subtle, they decided to have this conversation in which an old man basically says what the movie was about. Not to mention, this dialogue was the most boring of the entire film, it had neither the magic that some other scences had nor enough substance to even warrant it being included. The monologue at the end is all that is required to describe what the story was about and in a much more subtle way; they didn't need to force it down our throats. If this is what you think qualifies as 'making you think' then I can understand why you would be defending these last 30 minutes. To me it dumbed down the whole movie and if it went unsaid it would have not only increased the pacing from a horrid crawl to a nice slow flow, it would have retained enough subtlety to make it great.

If they somehow found a way to simply show Jones looking at the crime scene, Chigur's visit to the home and then Jones retirement into monologue I think the movie would have flowed much better. Instead of wasting time on scenes that don't advance the plot they could have simply ended it with a faster pace and left you time to think after the movie rather than during the movie while pointless, and therefore boring, dialogue and action were being shown. . .

PS - Note that I did say it should still win the oscar, but its by no means a perfect movie worthy of as much praise as it is receiving. In my opinion no great movie shows worthless scenes that drag on with boring and useless dialogue or action scenes that don't result in any development of the characters or the plot.

Satomiblood

01-06-2008, 07:23 PM

The scene where Tommy Lee is talking to the black guy is also completely worthless.

Are you talking about that scene at the remote ranch?

I think that guy was just dirty, not black.

sealhunta

01-06-2008, 08:57 PM

^ Lol

Wellman

01-06-2008, 09:14 PM

Its not boring to have to think about a movie, its boring when they feel the need to draw out the 'thoughts' for 30 minutes with pointless scenes. The rest of the movie had excellent pacing, while slower than most movies, the dialogue made up for everything as well as the pure, cold reality that it displayed. The last 30 minutes painted the most bleak and unfortunately boring picture. Its not boring because it left you thinking about everything that happened (even though you seem to think you're one of the few who 'understood' the movie), it was boring because the last 30 minutes were a complete distraction from what was happening before, and aside from Tommy Lee's monologue at the very end, they were in fact completely pointless.

I don't think they needed to show the car accident at all, I think it would have made the picture more complete if it wasn't there. It was a 10 minute scene that somehow found a way to make a car accident boring. There was nothing developed by it. There was no plot movement and it didn't even get you thinking. All that scene did was show you a kid helping out one of the best villains in film history. Maybe the novel made it seem better, I wouldn't know, but from a moviegoer's point of view it seemed completely pointless. Chigur was already developed amazingly well, this scene didn't further his development nor did it advance the plot, and it didn't even get you thinking about anything. . .

The scene where Tommy Lee is talking to the black guy is also completely worthless. Its the same reason I hate the second matrix movie. Instead of leaving the underlying morals of the movie hidden and subtle, they decided to have this conversation in which an old man basically says what the movie was about. Not to mention, this dialogue was the most boring of the entire film, it had neither the magic that some other scences had nor enough substance to even warrant it being included. The monologue at the end is all that is required to describe what the story was about and in a much more subtle way; they didn't need to force it down our throats. If this is what you think qualifies as 'making you think' then I can understand why you would be defending these last 30 minutes. To me it dumbed down the whole movie and if it went unsaid it would have not only increased the pacing from a horrid crawl to a nice slow flow, it would have retained enough subtlety to make it great.

If they somehow found a way to simply show Jones looking at the crime scene, Chigur's visit to the home and then Jones retirement into monologue I think the movie would have flowed much better. Instead of wasting time on scenes that don't advance the plot they could have simply ended it with a faster pace and left you time to think after the movie rather than during the movie while pointless, and therefore boring, dialogue and action were being shown. . .

PS - Note that I did say it should still win the oscar, but its by no means a perfect movie worthy of as much praise as it is receiving. In my opinion no great movie shows worthless scenes that drag on with boring and useless dialogue or action scenes that don't result in any development of the characters or the plot.

I agree with you about the talking at the end. I was literally on the edge of my seat waiting for something to happen to cap the movie but it never did. But I sort of understand the point it was all trying to make.

The main thing is it seemed that every scene with Tommy Lee Jones at the end kept talking about the same thing, which was like the Return of the King making me think oh this is the last scene but there was more. The scene with the old man (who wasn't black just dirty and tanned as fuck), it or the monologue with the wife should have remained but not both.

Although the scene with the car crash could literally have had couple of meanings.
- In one way I think it goes back the story Tommy Lee Jones told earlier about the cattle rancher.
- It could also be traced back to Chigur's bizarre idea of fate. Where all his actions lead him to be driving down that street at that time. With the exact damage of the accident being left vague so you don't know if this is a completely life changing event or just a funny bruise.

Those are the top ones that come to my mind, maybe it is explained better in the book. Regardless, I can't think of a single movie in 2007 that I'd pick over No Country, even American Gangster which was great, doesn't have the same unique charisma that this movie had to me. But I do agree the ending completely stopped the movie from being my new all time favorite, although the rest of it (80 to 90% of the movie) is just brillant.

ramza

01-08-2008, 12:12 AM

hot fuzz was a good movie.

also i dunno even know if this came out in 07 but if you never saw kiss kiss bang bang, you should.

J-ride

01-08-2008, 12:33 AM

Like I said, I know the fantasical elements in most sci-fi stories takes a back seat to the plot and ideas. I just don't think the rest of the characters and story were compelling enough to get away with not delving deeper into the question as to why the births aren't happening.

Yeah, but Hollywood tends to explain scientific issues in an incredibly simple/very ignorant way. Sure, most Americans aren't going to catch on how ridiculous they are, and they always seem incredibly lame to me. Take the virozombie movement that the horror movies of this generation. No matter how many times they explain it or try and show how it is spread, it just seems downright stupid.

P. Gorath

01-08-2008, 12:41 AM

erm, yeah...hopefully this will be done by Friday...keep checking back, sundance is next week so i'm a little busy (yes, I'm going)

Infernoman

01-08-2008, 12:59 AM

American Gangster would be my film of 07...Denzel can do no wrong.

transformers was great...nothing epic but I liked it...don't hate cause it wasn't the G1 designs (that shit wouldn't fly today)

I honestly never heard of Superbad til like a week before it came out and I thought it was hilarious

300 was overrated but take it for what it is...action and lost of half nude dudes kicking ass.

hot Fuzz I wasn't caring for til I sat down and watched. funny and I like it over shaun of the dead.

everything else was forgettable for me

P. Gorath

01-08-2008, 03:09 PM

first post updated

Gerjay_2001

01-08-2008, 04:54 PM

Glad to see you mentioning Once, its underrated to the extreme, mainly because almost nobody has seen it.

rsigley

01-08-2008, 05:46 PM

Yeah Dood 120%

01-08-2008, 05:52 PM

Shoot'em Up & Live Free or Die Hard were my favorite movies this year. Worst movie, I'd say Hitman... dood.

goodm0urning

01-08-2008, 06:35 PM

my problem with american gangster is that they just couldn't make it about the negro, instead they had to throw in random shit about the white guy and his home life to appeal to the american public

the movie should of been about denzel's character, instead it was about the cop and for that reason i say fuck american gangster and shitty directors who feel like they have to appeal to white america instead of making a real movieRidley Scott is hardly a shitty director.

That said, I agree with the rest of your post, but on the grounds that the material about the cop--regardless of whether it's necessary or not--is boring compared to the other material. It's Full Metal Jacket syndrome. Big chunks of the film just aren't very interesting, and the fact that the other chunks are so good make it all the more difficult to sit through the boring bits.

Denzel's performance does elevate it quite a bit. He rules in just about everything he's in, and this is no exception.

P. Gorath

01-08-2008, 06:41 PM

good ridley scott movies: Alien, Blade Runner, ....

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Calibur

01-08-2008, 06:44 PM

good ridley scott movies: Alien, Blade Runner, ....

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"Any Given Sunday":rofl:

edit whoops, any given sunday is an oliver stone flick.

Anyway, Thelma and Louise is decent (seriously), and Gladiator was directed well, Russel Crowe is just that bad.

goodm0urning

01-08-2008, 06:46 PM

Great Francis Ford Coppola movies:

The Godfather, Part 1 and 2
The Conversation

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This hardly means he's a shitty director.

EvilSamurai

01-08-2008, 06:52 PM

good ridley scott movies: Alien, Blade Runner, ....

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- Gladiator right up until the cheesey speach about restoring the republic at the end.
- Thelma and Louise was not bad.
- Hannibal was ok. I liked the book better and the movie sucked compared to Silence of the Lambs and Manhunter but was not nearly as bad as Red Dragon.
- Black Hawk Down was good.
- American Gangster is entertaining.

EvilSamurai

01-08-2008, 07:25 PM

Great Francis Ford Coppola movies:

The Godfather, Part 1 and 2
The Conversation

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This hardly means he's a shitty director.

Apocalypse Now is excellent and Bram Stoker's Dracula is great except for Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder. These miscastings are not entirely Coppola's fault as Ryder gave him the script to get back on his good side following her dropping out of godfather 3 and she then asked him to cast Keanu. At least Gary Oldman and Anthony Hopkins are great in it IMO. Keanu is unintentionally hilarious just like Nicholas Cage in The Wicker Man. I remember he randomly says "excellent" in hte movie a few times exactly the same way as in Bill and Ted.

P. Gorath

01-08-2008, 07:28 PM

goodm0urning

01-08-2008, 07:36 PM

Apocalypse Now is excellent and Bram Stoker's Dracula is great except for Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder. These miscastings are not entirely Coppola's fault as Ryder gave him the script to get back on his good side following her dropping out of godfather 3 and she then asked him to cast Keanu. At least Gary Oldman and Anthony Hopkins are great in it IMO. Keanu is unintentionally hilarious just like Nicholas Cage in The Wicker Man. I remember he randomly says "excellent" in hte movie a few times exactly the same way as in Bill and Ted.Apocalypse Now is only two thirds of a great film, and Redux is one half. Dracula was straight up pretentious and dull.

It can also be argued by the same token that Ridley Scott is at his best when he exercises more control, while many of his underwhelming features can be partially blamed on the actors or the meddling studios. On the set of Blade Runner--arguably his best film by far--the lasting impression he left on the cast and crew was as a meticulous control freak. On other, lesser films, not so much.

rsigley

01-08-2008, 07:47 PM

i don't really think ridley scott has made any good movies in a while.

tho i did sort of like kingdom of heaven directors cut, but everything else was just hype and didn't deliver.

i still don't understand why gladiator is so popular

also, i tend to like longer movies, but american gangster, like almost everyone of ridley scott's films, is about 30 minutes too long

it seems to me that he's always trying to tell multiple stories at once instead of focusing on one thing

and i dunno about full metal jacket having no interesting parts. it's one of the few movies i can put in after seeing it multiple times and just sit and watch the entire thing. the whole thing, all of the characters, the environment, their transformations are engrossing and great examples of character development

EvilSamurai

01-08-2008, 08:16 PM

The Outsiders is also a classic and an argument could be made for the black stallion. He has noble failures as well, not the soulless hack studio rent-a-director pics that make up the majority of Ridley Scott's work

He only produced The Black Stallion. He also produced Kagemusha (which was basically Kurosawa's "trial run" to get his credibility back so he could make Ran), Sleepy Hollow (This and Batman Returns are my favorite Tim Burton movies), Kinsey, American Graffiti, all of his daughter's films, and a bunch of shitty slasher movies. Coppola did an uncredited rewrite on the original Star Wars screenplay which is probably the only reason why it did not suck (Lucas originally wrote the screenplay and Empire and Jedi where written by Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kashdan). I would gather Coppola rewrote almost all of the dialog.

Coppola basically went insane after Apocalypse Now or rather his bipolar tendencies and massive cocaine addiction came to light. Coppola's late, post-Apocalypse Now, career resembles that of Kurosawa in that he basically lost all of his credibility and made a major run to restore it. The irony in is that Coppola helped an aging director successfully reaffirm his greatness only to see his own go down the toilet after the success of Dracula. (He made Jack, Patch Adams, and Supernova, all of which make me want to shoot Robin Williams and make James Spader go back to playing sexually-deviant yuppies.)

Dracula was straight up pretentious and dull.

It can also be argued by the same token that Ridley Scott is at his best when he exercises more control, while many of his underwhelming features can be partially blamed on the actors or the meddling studios. On the set of Blade Runner--arguably his best film by far--the lasting impression he left on the cast and crew was as a meticulous control freak. On other, lesser films, not so much.

First, Gary Oldman is never dull. He was even good in Lost in Space.

Secondly, The same thing about control can be said with Kurosawa. The more control he had, the better the movies he made. On his arguably best film, Ran, he had absolute power.

goodm0urning

01-08-2008, 08:33 PM

and i dunno about full metal jacket having no interesting parts. it's one of the few movies i can put in after seeing it multiple times and just sit and watch the entire thing. the whole thing, all of the characters, the environment, their transformations are engrossing and great examples of character developmentI didn't say it had no interesting parts. I said that some parts are good and some parts are bad, and the contrast is unfavorable to the bad parts.

I would gather Coppola rewrote almost all of the dialog. I doubt it. Star Wars has quite a few clunker lines in it. Then again, this was after Coppola fell off, so maybe you're right.

First, Gary Oldman is never dull. He was even good in Lost in Space.Good thing I didn't say Gary Oldman was dull; I said the movie was dull.

P. Gorath

01-08-2008, 10:01 PM

Ran doesnt even crack the top ten

Pained Auron

01-08-2008, 10:23 PM

let's throw the halloween remake into the worst of the worst. put it right up there bnext to smoking aces.

valaris

01-08-2008, 10:25 PM

let's throw the halloween remake into the worst of the worst. put it right up there bnext to smoking aces.

Smoking Aces was that bad? I don't remember it at all.

EvilSamurai

01-08-2008, 11:06 PM

Ran doesnt even crack the top ten

Maybe I exaggerated calling it Kurosawa's best film (it's not even my favorite Kurosawa movie but he himself thought it was his best but I think that is just a matter of him having total control) but it's my favorite Shakespeare adaptation even though Throne of Blood is a better movie as Ran has better battle scenes and arterial spray which are some of the best ever filmed. Its basically all about the battle scenes. Ran has a few major flaws: some of the actors are very wooden, the film is overlong, and the jester guy is annoying. Whatever you think of the film and Kurosawa in general, the man knew how to shoot battle scenes and his late career rebirth was ultimately successful while Coppola's was not.

Zero

01-08-2008, 11:28 PM

coming up: top ten films of 2007. hints: Don't go into the arcade with batman or scarecrow and watch your left foot if you find yourself in the bathhouse with dead souls

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Don't is a reference to Grindhouse.

MrQuotes

01-08-2008, 11:31 PM

black sheep needs some love

that movie was random

EvilSamurai

01-09-2008, 12:37 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Don't is a reference to Grindhouse.

Don't = Grindhouse. The fake trailers were the best part of a great film.
Arcade= King of Kong.
Batman= 3:10 to Yuma, Rescue Dawn, or The Dark Knight prologue
Scarecrow= Sunshine
Left foot= There Will Be Blood. Great movie. If Viggo does not win best actor then only Daniel Day-Lewis deserves to win.
Bathhouse= Eastern Promises. This absolutely needs to win Best Actor and Best Makeup.
Dead souls= The Orphanage. I haven't seem this yet

Red_venom

01-09-2008, 04:13 AM

Grindhouse, Alien vs Predator Requiem, Juno and especially No Country for Old Men were prob some of my favorites. It feels like there are quite a few im forgetting though.

Edit: And I found all the talk about Ridley Scott interesting as I read a lot about him after seeing Alien vs Predator:R. But my take on why his career has slowed down is simply that he is quite an old man. He is 70 now and that would have put him at about 42 when he did Alien(I think). Between being a younger man and hollywood actually having dope scripts in the 70s and 80s that sort of makes up the difference to me.

Not that his later work was bad. Thelma and Louise and Gladiator are definitely well received films that I do enjoy.

Satomiblood

01-09-2008, 06:32 AM

Smoking Aces was okay, before it got dramatic toward the end.

rsigley

01-09-2008, 04:35 PM

surprised it didn't make your worst of 2007 list:
1) the hitcher, i know you hate remakes and this one was pretty bad

2) code name the cleaner

3) premonition

4) i know who killed me

5) skinwalkers

for movies like epic movie or the comebacks you go in knowing it'll suck and the people who made it know it sucks, so i don't think movies like that should really count cause they're not trying

they're just trying to cash in real quick

SunocO

01-14-2008, 12:33 PM

i just this movie called Once and i have to say it is by far the best movie of this year maybe one of my favorite movies ever.

if you are music buff, i think you'll especially like this movie. watch it and let me know what you think. 98% on rottentomatoes.

HeaT

01-24-2008, 05:26 PM

so ummm is going to get updated orrr...maybe next time you should wait until you have the whole list compiled??? hahaha...

im outi

Roberth

P. Gorath

01-24-2008, 05:50 PM

goddammit i just got back in town 3 hours ago

Pained Auron

01-24-2008, 05:58 PM

That's no excuse gabe.

P. Gorath

01-24-2008, 06:03 PM

alright 6-10 are up

angryliberal

01-24-2008, 08:56 PM

wow, i have to say i'm shocked, i didn't think superbad was your kind of thing pg. just saw 3:10 to yuma tonight, definately in my top ten for the year. i agree that it's not in the same league as unforgiven, but very few westerns are. i have to say i'm surprised that superbad made your top ten but no country did not...

Taito

01-24-2008, 09:20 PM

Children of Men is an alright movie the first time you see it. It is basically good for one viewing and that is it.
It's a rollercoaster ride and not much else. It just works so well though. That world was surprisingly authentic and convincing.

The subsequent hype train for that movie pissed me off though..

EvilSamurai

01-25-2008, 12:06 AM

3:10 to Yuma was too long, his kid was annoying, and the scenes with his family were unnecessary. Batman vs Gladiator in the old west was good but not nearly as good as Batman with Ziggy Stardust assist vs Wolverine as magicians in the early 20th century (The Prestige).

angryliberal

01-25-2008, 07:50 AM

i didn't think the pestige was all that great, i thought the illusionist was better. well, they were about on par as a movie, but i enjoyed the cinematography in the illusionist better...

chopperbyrne

01-25-2008, 09:13 AM

Good Luck Chuck was easily the worst film of last year.

Not even Alba could save it.

P. Gorath

02-08-2008, 01:40 PM

there, fuckers.

angryliberal

02-08-2008, 01:45 PM

ok, so i agree with you to some extent, but the whole no country thing. no country was so amazing. the more i dug into that film and it's themes, the more i was truly blown away by it. i will admit i have yet to see twbb(i know, i know...), but no country edges out even grindhouse for me. and yes, i saw it as it should be seen, in the theaters...

i will admit i like the extended cut of death proof tho...

P. Gorath

02-08-2008, 01:48 PM

for me No Country was too wanky "look at me, I'm an important film saying important things" that just rubbed me the wrong way.

angryliberal

02-08-2008, 01:51 PM

for me No Country was too wanky "look at me, I'm an important film saying important things" that just rubbed me the wrong way.

i can understand that...i think what really blew me away was tommy lee jones. it's been a while since i've looked at an actor i know very well and see soemthing i never saw before. there was something about his character, the tiredness in his voice or something, that just really screamed "powerful performance" to me.

also, the gas attendant scene was hitcockian in it's use of tension and suspense.

now saying all that, i don't doubt that ddl performance in twbb will trump any performance i've seen this year...

edit: oh, and i can't agree with you more on viggo in eastern promises. i think even more than the films this year, the performances were the real treat of the year in movies...

toha heavy ind.

02-08-2008, 01:53 PM

No Country was easily a favorite this year, but having seen Grindhouse in theatres, there's really nothing that compares to it. :/

goodm0urning

02-08-2008, 01:57 PM

there, fuckers.Good choice and rationale for #1. I feel the same way.

N-Ken

02-08-2008, 02:08 PM

for me No Country was too wanky "look at me, I'm an important film saying important things" that just rubbed me the wrong way.
I disagree with a few placings on your list(No country, 300, knocked up was better than superbad though both deserve top 10, and PROBABLY lucky you from all I've heard about it) No country was great and def deserves being on the top 10, but I completely agree about grindhouse and it didnt seem like many people acknowledged that watching it in theater was really amazing.

HeaT

02-08-2008, 02:19 PM

list was ok...

my top 10 ( i saw somewhere around 50-60 movies in 2007):

1. there will be blood
2. no country for old men
3. assassination of jesse james
4. sunshine
5. bourne ultimatium
6. grindhouse
7. 3:10 to yuma
8. easter promises
9. before the devil knows your dead
10. charlie wilson's war

im outi

Roberth

angryliberal

02-08-2008, 02:25 PM

films i need to see before making my list:

twbb
sicko
assasination of jesse james
sunshine
charlie wilson's war

on the superbad vs knocked up thing, i think in the end, superbad edged it out. both film were brilliant, but superbad had less down time than knocked up. however, knowcked up was a very good romantic comedy, and i HATE romantic comedies...

EvilSamurai

02-08-2008, 02:30 PM

I agree with your top 3 picks PG. Grindhouse was easily the most fun I had in a theater last year. The only problem with the film was that the fake trailers were better (more concise) than the actual film. Thanksgiving is all the good parts of a slasher film condensed into less than five minutes and was my favorite part of the whole Grindhouse "Anthology".

rcaido

02-08-2008, 02:32 PM

Would Curse of the Golden Flower count as a 2007 film? IF so this goes to #2 on my list...I would also like to add Death Sentence...

Hopefully i can checkout Jesse James tonight...

P. Gorath

02-08-2008, 03:18 PM

Sunshine probably would have made the bottom of the top ten had I caught it in theaters.