The port forwarding thread.

[djfrijoles]

This is probably the most difficult part of getting started with on line gaming so
I figured it deserved it's own thread. Even though I PERSONALLY wont have all
the answers, there are some really knowledgeable people in the community that might be willing to lend a hand so come up in here with your questions.

OK the first thing you have to do is find out which type/model of router you have.
This I can't help you with so you are on your own but I'm guessing most of them have something ON them so look at it first. I think there is also a way to find out through Windows like through control panel but I cant remember so if anyone knows then feel free to post it up. Just trying to be as helpfull as I can.

OK next on the list is getting into your router. I personally use Windows XP so I'll
start by posting the way I get into mine.

Hit the Windows key + R and you will get a little screen. Type in cmd and hit enter. You'll get a black screen. Type in ipconfig and hit enter. You want the number that says gateway or something like that.

If you type in ipconfig/all you will get a lot more info. that might be usefull but some one else will have to fill you in on that.

Once you have the gateway number than open up your Internet Explorer and in the address bar type in that number and you should be inside your router.
If that didn't work than here is another suggestion. Instead of the gateway number, type in home and then cross your fingers.

Now comes a potential road block. If your shit is behind a password than your shit outta luck if you don't know it. I do have one thing for you to try though.
Look at your router and look for some kind of serial number. Give that number a shot and hope for the best.

Next you want to go here

http://portforward.com/default.htm

here

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/6160/Introduction+to+Port+Forwarding#I1

and fuck it.....even here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_forwarding

The more you understand this shit the higher your chances of success are.

Look through those and see if you can find your router or the info you need.
If all that fails ( don't be lazy and NOT look through them ) and if you still can't open them than come here and ask away. Of course screen shots always help but don't make them all huge to where it fucks up the thread.

Well thats all I got so if any one else has any thing to add, be my guest.

[Raisin]

Good call, djfrijoles. The port-forwarding issue has been getting more and more attention since the rise of the awesome P2P client.

You're going to need a little bit of technical knowledge to get things working, but if you're willing to do a little homework and tinker with things, you have a good shot at success. If you have a problem, you have the best chance of getting help in here if you give a good description of the issue and show that you're making an honest attempt to meet people halfway as far as effort goes. :tup:

[0746]

My port forwarding is not working (for real =()

I have a D-Link DSL 302g and I used to use it's bridge mode to connect directly to ISP from my pc so I didnt need port forwarding. Some dude told me that JetSpeed 520 firmware has UPnP and works on Viking and I upgraded and now I can't use bridge mode. So I port forwarded and it was working and then after I added a few more forwards for utorrent and a few other programs...it stopped working. I removed the recently added ones and it doesn't work even if I do everything from scratch.

Someone help a newb out! =(

[djfrijoles]

You are the last person I ever expected to be in this thread asking for help:rofl:

Well I don't have much cept this guide that I found for your model.
Might not be much use to you since you already know how to port forward but
hopefully the community will show there appreciation for your work and chip in and look for the answer. Any ways here it is (http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DSL-302G/Azureus.htm)

[Sanjuro_The_Ronin]

Ok, i'm having a problem. My DSL modem isnt showing up on that site. I have a ActionTec GT724WG. I need whatever help I can get pleeeeeaaaaasssse.

[djfrijoles]

Ok, i'm having a problem. My DSL modem isnt showing up on that site. I have a ActionTec GT724WG. I need whatever help I can get pleeeeeaaaaasssse.

Ok I got a question for your question first.

Are you able to accsess your routers config. at all ?
If so how much of port forwarding do you understand. If you are able to access the config. than shoot us a screen shot and we'll see what we can do.

[Raisin]

[Obscure and difficult problem]
Did you check to make sure your firewalls are off? ...just kidding... haha :wgrin:

That is weird, though. You had forwarded ports working before, so clearly you knew what you were doing there. When you say you later added a few more ports for utorrent and stuff, how much later was it? Fifteen minutes later or like a couple weeks later? If it was a lot later, it can't possibly be because of something whack like your ISP suddenly disallowing the 27886 port at around the same time you went to add the new ones, is it?

I don't suppose reverting to old firmware is possible/desired. I dunno, I'm looking for ideas here but mostly coming up empty. Google is not helping much either. :sad:

Ok, i'm having a problem. My DSL modem isnt showing up on that site. I have a ActionTec GT724WG.
If you're plugged straight into a modem, I thought usually that situation doesn't require port forwarding at all. Are you behind a router? Is that what you meant?

[Sanjuro_The_Ronin]

If you're plugged straight into a modem, I thought usually that situation doesn't require port forwarding at all. Are you behind a router? Is that what you meant?

Well I don't know exactly what it is. Its our main modem for DSL between my computer and my dads computer but it is giving me the problems I had with our old router when we had cable. None of my games are showing up in the waiting games list and my ping is higher then it was but then again the latter could be from the fact that DSL sucks.

[ShinAkuma204]

Well I don't know exactly what it is. Its our main modem for DSL between my computer and my dads computer but it is giving me the problems I had with our old router when we had cable. None of my games are showing up in the waiting games list and my ping is higher then it was but then again the latter could be from the fact that DSL sucks.

One of the easier solutions for port forwarding problems is get yourself a software firewall and put your PC on the DMZ.

[Raisin]

Well I don't know exactly what it is. Its our main modem for DSL between my computer and my dads computer...
I'm not trying to sound retarded, but do you know if you could find out (what it is)? It would be really helpful if we knew whether you were behind a router or not. Or are you saying it's some weird "modem and router all in one" thing? Does your dad know? Commonly, people have a modem and a router setup.

Not trying to be disagreeable, but personally, I've heard too many horror stories about the DMZ to even consider using it to try to fix the issue, especially when we haven't exhausted all our options. I'd be too scared to mess something up with my computer or the others on the network, even if I thought I knew exactly what I was doing. But I am no tech guru.

[0746]

Did you check to make sure your firewalls are off? ...just kidding... haha :wgrin:

That is weird, though. You had forwarded ports working before, so clearly you knew what you were doing there. When you say you later added a few more ports for utorrent and stuff, how much later was it? Fifteen minutes later or like a couple weeks later? If it was a lot later, it can't possibly be because of something whack like your ISP suddenly disallowing the 27886 port at around the same time you went to add the new ones, is it?

I don't suppose reverting to old firmware is possible/desired. I dunno, I'm looking for ideas here but mostly coming up empty. Google is not helping much either. :sad:

A friend with the same router sent me a copy of the old firmware. Bridge mode is working now =) Couldn't find the firmware on google anywhere...not even on the router's company site. Thanks for all the help.

[stretch]

Well I don't know exactly what it is. Its our main modem for DSL between my computer and my dads computer but it is giving me the problems I had with our old router when we had cable. None of my games are showing up in the waiting games list and my ping is higher then it was but then again the latter could be from the fact that DSL sucks.Sounds to me that it could be a DSL modem + NAT combo. If it has NAT features, then you should first enable it into bridge mode... I think. I'll double check for you about NAT modems.

[ShinAkuma204]

Not trying to be disagreeable, but personally, I've heard too many horror stories about the DMZ to even consider using it to try to fix the issue, especially when we haven't exhausted all our options. I'd be too scared to mess something up with my computer or the others on the network, even if I thought I knew exactly what I was doing. But I am no tech guru.

The DMZ is no different than connecting to the internet straight through a modem - ie:no router.

Obviously there is security issues with that as your PC is basically naked on the web, which is why you need a software firewall.

The advantage of a software firewall in this scenario is that they are generally application specific in terms of allowing outgoing/incoming traffic. A router blocks ports regardless of the applications trying to use it where a software firewall will prompt you when a application needs net access and you can approve or deny. That alleviates the need for port forwards because the application itself will/should have full access.

[Gaijinblaze]

If ports are forwarded under a certain administrator account on a PC, do those settings apply to the other administrator accounts?

[ShinAkuma204]

If ports are forwarded under a certain administrator account on a PC, do those settings apply to the other administrator accounts?

It should. Port forwarding is an aspect of the hardware end of the router, not the operating system on the PC.

[Tootall]

I seem to be having a bit of trouble with this. i've forwarded the correct port for p2p, but for some reason whenever i hit the "whatismyip" button on the host screen it shows the port as being 60205, or really just a random port starting with 60. i've changed it on my router to forward the port and also on my firewall, as well as force the port on the client. still get the random 60 number.

As a matter of fact, i never really did anything when i first tried to host. it just worked. i didn't forward the port until a couple days ago. it says it's hosting on the 27886 port but whatismyip button is showing up as xx.xx.xx.xx:60205.

any help would be appreciated.

[djfrijoles]

I think that when you conect to some one else instead of hosting yourself, the port you guys played on gets recorded and shows as the hosting port for your next session.
Not completely sure about this though.

Are you able to host though ?

You can change the port you want to host on in the options tab ( asuming you are using nFBA p2p client )

If you are still having trouble then hit me on AIM and we'll see if we can't get you going.

[Tootall]

oh yeah, forgot to say i was using nfba and all that jazz.

yeah i can host just fine, i would just like to have the 27886 port being used, so ppl don't have enter it in every time, and wonder what port i am going to use, cuz it does change every time i host.

it's like a dynamic port number, even though in the settings I've made it static at 27886. It is an oddity.

also, the reason i want to change it is because i get weird freezing issues with some of the ppl i play. the game locks up and the sound keep repeating over and over. i've been trying some things on my comp to see if i can get rid of it, and this port is just an idea.

i also have an idea that it keeps happening because i'm using vista and everyone else that i'm playing is using xp, but that is kind of far fetched.

[djfrijoles]

oh yeah, forgot to say i was using nfba and all that jazz.

yeah i can host just fine, i would just like to have the 27886 port being used, so ppl don't have enter it in every time, and wonder what port i am going to use, cuz it does change every time i host.

it's like a dynamic port number, even though in the settings I've made it static at 27886. It is an oddity.

also, the reason i want to change it is because i get weird freezing issues with some of the ppl i play. the game locks up and the sound keep repeating over and over. i've been trying some things on my comp to see if i can get rid of it, and this port is just an idea.

i also have an idea that it keeps happening because i'm using vista and everyone else that i'm playing is using xp, but that is kind of far fetched.


It's not to far fetched as you might think actually.
From what I've read it seems that Vista doesn't get along with emu's.
As far as the freezing issue you mentioned, make sure the people you are playing
are not using the beta version of the p2p client ( which is the most recent vers. )
Feb. 11 is what most of us are packing latley ( I think )

You also didn't mention if you tried checking what it says in the options tab in the net play screen.

[Trix]

Allright, on p2p kaillera for 3S, I've forwarded my ports, disabled my AVG program, and I still can't host at all.

I have 2 ports forwarded for kaillera and 1 for Starcraft. I just don't understand what else I can do. Did I forget to do something? Or maybe I did something wrong? I'd appreciate the help. Thx.

[pdk]

if all else fails after checking a second time, it's possible that your isp or (more likely) aparment/condo have blocked a port altogether; look on the isp's site, maybe call them about the ports you want, and (if you live in an apartment that makes the choice of isp for you) ask your landlord who you should be directing your questions about this to

[djfrijoles]

Firewall ?
Of those two ports you have open, is one of them 27886 udp ?
Turn of the firwall in windows to start and come back and post teh results and we'll look fo the answer. Open netplay like normaly and open the options tab and change the port number listed in there to the port that you have open in your router if it is not the 27886 one.
Let me know what happens.444

[Trix]

Yeah, I did all that and it's still not working. I dunno. :sad:

[two2tone]

problem: ive added app nfba on winxp's network properties added port 27886 or whatever the # is... but when i host... it dont show on waitin game list... i open nfba and host a game... then i open mame kaillera simultaneously... and it shows on waitin game list... yet when i ask people on irc... or whatever for p2p... they dont see it...

ive followed the steps here but... im stuck here...

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t235/two2tone209/Untitled-1.jpg

:confused:

[djfrijoles]

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Ok like I said in post number one I'm no expert but I'll make an attempt here. First it looks like You are in the right place so thats a good start. First thing you wanna do is switch teh protocol drop box to udp.

Next you want to put in the ip port range to be 27886 to 27886 and try doing just that without putting in an ip address. If it doesn't allow you to continue without an ip then get your ip from the portforward.com link in post number 1. Just click teh link and it will be at teh bottom of the page as your external ip address.

If that doesn't work try putting in a range of 10 above 27886 and 10 below 27886
So the range would be 27876 to 27896 and try without teh ip and if it doesn't work then with teh ip.

You save with teh add button. Your going to work with the first line btw where teh drop box is.

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Doom why don't you shoot us a screen shot and let teh community try to walk you through teh proccess of opening your ports ?

[two2tone]

This is what i got this time... after i inputed the external ip address...

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t235/two2tone209/Untitled-2.jpg

[Raisin]

Yeah, I did all that and it's still not working. I dunno. :sad:
Not sure if you meant you already tried this, but did you try some other,
randomly different port than 27886? Forward a different port and tell
NFBA to use this different port? 'Cause occasionally, certain numbers
don't work for whatever reason.

ive followed the steps here but... im stuck here...
If I'm not mistaken (which is rare), I think you can do the following...

--Put 27886 to 27886 in IP Port Range.

--Change protocol next to it from TCP to UDP (which is what P2P uses).

--For IP address, you need your local IP. WinXP Start menu --> run -->
type command and press OK --> type "ipconfig" in the black window
and press enter --> under IP Address, it should show something like
192.168.X.X --> Copy those 4 sets of numbers w/the periods down -->
type "exit" in the black box to end it --> put the set of numbers in the
blank "IP Address" box field of your router setup.

Edit: Oops, you posted right before I did. Did you make sure to
put your local IP in that field and not your global (WAN) IP?

[two2tone]

If I'm not mistaken (which is rare), I think you can do the following...

--Put 27886 to 27886 in IP Port Range.

--Change protocol next to it from TCP to UDP (which is what P2P uses).

--For IP address, you need your local IP. WinXP Start menu --> run -->
type command and press OK --> type "ipconfig" in the black window
and press enter --> under IP Address, it should show something like
192.168.X.X --> Copy those 4 sets of numbers w/the periods down -->
type "exit" in the black box to end it --> put the set of numbers in the
blank "IP Address" box field of your router setup.

Edit: Oops, you posted right before I did. Did you make sure to put your local IP in that field and not your global (WAN) IP?

yeah it works now... but i still gotta try to host and see if people can actually see it now... ill let you know if it works or not

[two2tone]

ok just hosted... no one seems to see it in 'waiting games' lounge... :(

[djfrijoles]

ok just hosted... no one seems to see it in 'waiting games' lounge... :(

Sorry for being retarded with this question but I have to ask it............
Did you click the enlist in waiting games list ?

[two2tone]

Sorry for being retarded with this question but I have to ask it............
Did you click the enlist in waiting games list ?

yup always click that... all the time... :(

[djfrijoles]

are you on now ?

[ReKo]

I seem to be having a bit of trouble with this. i've forwarded the correct port for p2p, but for some reason whenever i hit the "whatismyip" button on the host screen it shows the port as being 60205, or really just a random port starting with 60. i've changed it on my router to forward the port and also on my firewall, as well as force the port on the client. still get the random 60 number.

As a matter of fact, i never really did anything when i first tried to host. it just worked. i didn't forward the port until a couple days ago. it says it's hosting on the 27886 port but whatismyip button is showing up as xx.xx.xx.xx:60205.

any help would be appreciated.

I'm getting this too but with a random 50xxx port number despite setting 27886 for hosting and using the Force Port option.
Btw the issue is not isolated to Vista because I'm on XP.

[Footsy Bebop]

Hi,

I'm trying to set up port forwarding using this guide for my router.

http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DI-524/Xbox_Live_360.htm

What should I put in the name section? (in the example it says xboxlive3601), I'm trying to set this up with nFBA? Does it matter what I put here?

The protocol type is UDP and in both sections that say port I put 27886?

Thanks

[Raisin]

What should I put in the name section? (in the example it says xboxlive3601), I'm trying to set this up with nFBA? Does it matter what I put here?
If I'm not mistaken, you can put whatever you want in the name section, because it's just there as a label for your own reference later on. So I dunno, maybe "KailleraP2P" or something would be appropriate.

The protocol type is UDP and in both sections that say port I put 27886?
Yeah. In their example, they're forwarding two different ports, but you only need to forward a single one, 27886. You can punch that number into both the private and the public port fields. (At least I think that's how it's done on your router...)

Also, I don't know how well it's gonna work on your wireless router, but you may as well try it, right?

[Footsy Bebop]

Almost had it, got all the way through the process, setting a static IP and entering the info into my router, but when I hit apply it says "Invalid IP address" is this referring the IP address I put into my static IP? ack I'm confused, can anyone help?

[Luigi-Bo 87]

can this be done the same way for linux users

[djfrijoles]

Almost had it, got all the way through the process, setting a static IP and entering the info into my router, but when I hit apply it says "Invalid IP address" is this referring the IP address I put into my static IP? ack I'm confused, can anyone help?

I'm not to familiar with the whole static IP
thing but If it's diffrente from your machines address try putting in both. First get your external IP from here (www.portforward.com). It will be at teh bottom of teh page listed. If that don't work then use the Static IP that you have. If not then IDK if the ip you get from using the cmd promt methode from post number one gives you a diffrent number so try those three things first.


can this be done the same way for linux users


Do you mean online play or teh ports part because I think emu's and other than Windows OS's are pretty much enemies from my past experiences with a buddy.

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Raisin can you write a post explaining the whole Static IP thing and I'll add it to post number one with the proper credit of course ?

[Raisin]

...when I hit apply it says "Invalid IP address" is this referring the IP address I put into my static IP?
Yeah, it's asking for your local IP address, which I think is the same thing you should've used to set up your static IP. It's not the external (global/WAN) IP that djfrijoles talked about on the portforward main page.

Again, to find your local IP on WinXP:
Start menu --> Run --> type "command" --> black box opens up --> type "ipconfig" --> note your [local] IP address, which should be something like 192.168.1.X --> type "exit" to close the black box.

Back in your router settings, punch that local IP number (192.168.1.X or whatever it was) in the field that says Private IP. Hopefully that fixes it.

Raisin can you write a post explaining the whole Static IP thing and I'll add it to post number one with the proper credit of course ?
Haha, I would, but I actually don't really know anything about them either. I mean, apart from the stuff on portforward.com. Sorry. :tdown:

[Luigi-Bo 87]

I meant the port thing. I wanna pla mame on linux online.

[xxYoungOne15xx]

i did everythign and i cant do aqnything...i portfowarded ande verythign and for some reason i cant join a game i cant host, i cant connect directly no waiting game comes up.. i cant do anythign, plz help...im using NBFA

i have a screenshot here
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k182/Young_One1215/portfowardissue.jpg

[Footsy Bebop]

need help forwarding port 7000, am i doing this right?

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn21/menumba1/damdaiprogram.jpg

[Raisin]

am i doing this right?
That's pretty whack, because everything looks correct. :confused:
I double-checked the port-forwarding guide for your router model, and I don't see anything wrong with the way you followed the steps.

Didn't you say you figured out how to host games with your router (by opening 27886 UDP)? That's the part I don't understand. I don't get why that would work but this one wouldn't. There isn't any other firewall blocking the Damdai program, or there isn't some weird limit with your router on the number of forwarded stuff you can have active, is there? Just grasping at straws here...

[Footsy Bebop]

yeah i can host games, i don't think my game ever shows up in the waiting games list though. and occasionally my hosted games won't work either (when I can't get my whatismyip button to work, I can't host). Oh well.

[djfrijoles]

Here goes another shot in the dark.........

Look around your AntiVirus or Windows firewall.

[dbostick]

Recently, someone on efnet walked me through on what to do and now I can host games on P2P and have GGPO work a lot more often. I was putting in the wrong IP address the whole time.

Whoever that helped me, thank you again very much!

[djfrijoles]

OK here goes one more tip.

For all of you using Norton Anti Virus, it has an extra firewall in it so you have to look around in it and set it to always allow the application. Yesterday I got one more person up and hosting an this was the problem. I'll add it to the first post later. ( to lazy just woke up )

[Oski H]

OK here goes one more tip.

For all of you using Norton Anti Virus, it has an extra firewall in it so you have to look around in it and set it to always allow the application. Yesterday I got one more person up and hosting an this was the problem. I'll add it to the first post later. ( to lazy just woke up )

That must have been me. I am not port fwding specialist but i have read so much in the past few days. Anyoen have any questons about forwarding on their linksys router pm me.

[djfrijoles]

That must have been me. I am not port fwding specialist but i have read so much in the past few days. Anyoen have any questons about forwarding on their linksys router pm me.



Yep it was you. I know one person that if I remeber correctly has a linksys and was having trouble so I'ma tell him to get at you so you can help someone in return.

[isamu]

Guys I know this is a silly question, but is a router absolutely necessary for playing online? I don't have one. I connect straight to the net using a Sprint PCMCIA wireless broadband card for my laptop. I can surf the net and play Team Fortress. Do I still need to go out and buy a router for Kaillera/GGPO?

[djfrijoles]

Guys I know this is a silly question, but is a router absolutely necessary for playing online? I don't have one. I connect straight to the net using a Sprint PCMCIA wireless broadband card for my laptop. I can surf the net and play Team Fortress. Do I still need to go out and buy a router for Kaillera/GGPO?


Exactly the contrary. I'm sure there are a few people that would love to smash the shit outta there routers so they could host games.

The only thing that you mentioned that might hinder you is wireless.
It usually makes for an unstable connection, but there have been a couple exceptions to this so we wont know till you try.

[vtrickzv]

Hey guys I can't seem to get my port forwarding to work I've checked the portforward.com website and did everything it said. I've got a Thomson ST546 v6. I have some pics, and I think I did everything right but it's still not working. Would appreciate if you just take a look and let me know if I'm doing something wrong, thanks.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/vtrickzv/ports.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/vtrickzv/cmd.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/vtrickzv/device.jpg

Anyways, would appreciate any help with this and sorry I'm a complete n00b when it comes to this stuff.
Thanks. Trickz-

[djfrijoles]

Did you look around for a firewall blocking you ?

[nothing]

There's no way to open closed ports on a municipal network is there? Like my city's free internet?

I've got everything set up on my router at home and it all works great, but I'm hardly ever home with school and work so I'd love to get some games in on ggpo when I'm at work and bored.

Is there no way to get around portforwarding? Software? Anything?