Last Blade 2 tournament

[hajimewaji]

I think the last one we had was during the summer of 2007. I'm thinking of having another one. For one thing, this should keep lb2 alive, and also maybe some veterans might come back.

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Rules are the following, PLEASE READ!!!
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You will play a set of 3 matches, and those who win the first 2 match will be the winner.

Rounds: 5
Health: default
Time: default
Characters: Unawakened Kaede is allowed. Boss and the special code morphing character are banned.
Mode: You may change your modes from opponent to opponent. Ex mode is allowed.

All infinites are NOT allowed.
Moriya's AC glitch is allowed only once in a combo.

Upon violation of any of the above rules, that match will not count (not just the round), and you must replay the match.
Any match hampered by game-disrupting bugs (bugs that will either disable the players from continuing the round which the game occured in, or ones that disrupt the game time for more than 3 seconds) must be replayed.

Stages NOT allowed, for lag reasons:
Village
Flames
Shrine
Gate
Graveyard
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If you want to sign up for the tournament, please post here with:
1. your Kaillera alias
2. your availability during the week with hours listed
3. method of contact

Mame32K 0.64 will be used for all matches.
Kaillera p2p is highly recommanded, but it is not necessary since I know that some people desync during p2p play.
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If there are a lot of objections or better suggestions, these rules are prone to change.
I will start organizing the tournament sheet once I get 12 people to sign up.
I, myself, will not be participating, but anyone else (noobs, veterans, and the oh so meager number of mediocre players) can join.

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Mushishi can probably provide good advices on the match-up list

NOTE: I've taken out the character selection rule
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Player list:
- Mushishi Ginko
- Setsuna (out, replaced by Susejmai)
- Izule
- Muukuu
- s4ndm4n21
- Reason
- WilMaster
- Stafos
- EvilSamurai
- JuNo
- Keo-Bas
- RushedDown (out, replaced by NightWing)
- NightWing
- Susejmai

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/080/a/9/lb2_tourney_by_rollygenesis.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2008/080/4/9/lb2_loser_by_rollygenesis.jpg

IMPORTANT!!!!!!
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Ok, the tourney has started.
The matches will be coordinated between the players. Once a match is finished, the players will post on this forum the winners and the losers (including the number of matches won, and the corresponding characters played)

For example:
ABC vs CDE
--2-------1----
Winner ABC
round 1: ABC: S. Moriya, CDE: P. Kaede
round 2: ABC: S. Moriya, CDE: S. Shigen
round 3: ABC: S. Moriya, CDE: P. Kaede

For the loser bracket, there will be 1 match where 3 players will be involved. All three players will play each other, so that's 3 matches total. (e.g. A vs B, B vs C, and A vs C) The player in the end who has the most rounds won wins the match.

Good luck everyone!

UPDATE from one of my post on page 3:
OK, regarding the character changing rule. Originally, I had the players pick out the characters before the matches started. Then Mushishi said it's not a good idea, then I took it out. My fault is that I never clarified further about the character selection rule. So any interpretation could be valid.
Personally, I think people should stick to one character throughout the entire tourney, but I guess a lot of people object to that.

OK, let me make it official now: based on the opinions of the board, you can ONLY switch character after a match, if you LOSE the previous match. Same with modes, you can ONLY switch modes after a match, if you LOSE the previous match.

[Mushishi Ginko]

I haven't even looked at these forums in almost a week and look I find. Anyway, I guess you can count me in. I have a few opinions regarding the proposed rules which I'll address below.

Kaillera alias: Mushishi Ginko
Availability: Weekend evenings, Weekdays 10:00 PM - 11:00 PM (Eastern).
Method of contact: Shoryuken.com PM and MSN approaching a match (I'll give my MSN via PM)



1. Regarding character selection, doesn't it make more sense to simply pick a main character and allow a character change in the event of a loss? After all, you can only change once at maximum. I'm not sure how tournaments of this type are normally run, but it seems excessively rigid to determine your choice for each match ahead of time. I think it makes sense to allow players to adjust to their opponent's tactics after a loss. [Addressed]

2. Regarding the "morphing dolls" ban, Are you talking about Akari's morphing special or the character select code that forces mirror matches? I see no problem in allowing the former. I agree that the mirror match code breaks the match making process, and should be banned. [Clarified]

3. I think we should make p2p mandatory, and settle on a standard client build. The p2p client has a achieved a level of maturity such that there's really no excuse NOT to use it for a tournament. (1 vote for Nov 01 client)

4. Considering the amount of lag caused by some stages I think we should agree on a standard stage, or create a list of banned stages. [Addressed]


Thanks for trying to organize this. You should play...


I would really love to see any or all of the following players take part in the tournament....
Kyokuji
Geeze
God_Banished
Bobo-da-homo
lalla
SwordStrength

[hajimewaji]

Players:

Kaillera alias: Izule
Availability: Almost everyday normaly from 1pm to 12am (pacific)
Method of contact:
msn : izule@live
xfire : izule

[hajimewaji]

Player:

Kaillera alias: Muukuu
Availability: Almost every evening (pacific)
Method of contact:
email: muukuuroo@gmail.com

[hajimewaji]

Player:

Kaillera alias: Setsuna
Availability: Weekends - anytime (eastern)
Method of contact:
msn : Serafino9@hotmail.com
e-mail : computergeeek1986@yahoo.com

[Mushishi Ginko]

A question about the tournament format...

Will it be single or double elimination? Personally, I like the idea of a double elimination tournament where the winner of the losers bracket plays in the final. The catch is the losers bracket winner needs to win 2 consecutive sets. This way players still have something to play for even if they lose. It's also a good because it allows for a greater possibility of competitive matches between newer players. What do you think? I recognize the fact that this type of tournament would be more work to organize.

[s4ndm4n21]

Player:

Kaillera alias: s4ndm4n21
Availability: Weekends - any time, Weekdays - 7-10 pm (Eastern)
Method of contact: msn/email - imun_elkaholik@hotmail.com

[Mushishi Ginko]

Player:

Kaillera alias: s4ndm4n21
Availability: Weekends - any time, Weekdays - 7-10 pm (Eastern)
Method of contact: msn/email - imun_elkaholik@hotmail.com

Awesome, I haven't seen you online in a long time. Things are starting to get interesting. You belong on my player wish list in my first post, but alas I have a bad memory.

[hajimewaji]

Player:

Kaillera alias: Reason
Availability: mostly 6pm--2am during the weekend (pacific)
Method of contact:
email: reasonli@gmail.com

[s4ndm4n21]

Awesome, I haven't seen you online in a long time. Things are starting to get interesting. You belong on my player wish list in my first post, but alas I have a bad memory.

;) Ye I've been pretty busy for a while, just hopped on mame for the first time in ages today and was instantly told about this tourny. Gonna have to get back into the swing of things, I'm rusty as hell. Hope theres a good turnout to give me some incentive.

Also you forgot Key[ITA] in your list, he's in the top 5 for shur.

[Mushishi Ginko]

;) Ye I've been pretty busy for a while, just hopped on mame for the first time in ages today and was instantly told about this tourny. Gonna have to get back into the swing of things, I'm rusty as hell. Hope theres a good turnout to give me some incentive.

Also you forgot Key[ITA] in your list, he's in the top 5 for shur.

I never played him, but if you know how to contact him...... One thing I've noticed about this game is rust sets in quickly, and it's difficult to shake off.

[-WiL-]

Sign me up cap'n

WiLMaster
Most evenings
aim- WiLMaster001
msn- Pm me for it

but wtf at Moriya AC glitch being banned? its central to his game....

[Stafos_Knight]

In response to the special code morphing... If there isn't a rule stating that you can't use a different character after each match, why is Hagure banned? He has nothing going for him that picking the opponent's character doesn't, besides a nicer name. Hell, I can use everybody, in any mode if I really want, so it's not like he's a disadvantage. :p

SN: Stafos
Time: Specify any time, I can avoid sleep for up to three days. :p
Contact: Any of my respective IMs. :p

[Kyokuji]

My money's on Mushishi for now unless Geeze or Bobo comes in. I haven't seen Bobo on kaillera in ages, though (not that I've been on much myself), and lalla only comes on very infrequently.
I completely forgot that tool SwordStrength existed.

[s4ndm4n21]

kk so its time for me to do a little whining about the rules. I think the no moriya AC glitch rule should be removed because although it gives moriya a lot more potential its still difficult to use well and can easily be turned against him if its used predictably. It's really just another tool for him to use like any characters specials that has its ups and downs (maybe a few less downs then ups but shhh) and it makes for more interesting matches imo. Also although it may be a glitch (although im still not entirely convinced it is), it does suit moriyas style of being fast and having quick recovery and is really quite similar to his qcb+A/B/C move being able to hav its recovery shortened. ALSO its allowed in the A-CHO tournys and everyone knows the japanese are always rite :P. Oh and *:'( WAH WAH WAH WAH :'(*. kk im done.

[s4ndm4n21]

Sign me up cap'n

WiLMaster
Most evenings
aim- WiLMaster001
msn- Pm me for it

but wtf at Moriya AC glitch being banned? its central to his game....

>_< geez man dont juss slip this into one of ur old posts, this is a very very wise and important opinion.... you shouldn't be so quiet about it. Allow me to help you out. HEY EVERYONE LOOK SOMEONE ELSE THINKS THE MORIYA RULE SHOULD BE REMOVED!!!! :D

[Mushishi Ginko]

My money's on Mushishi for now unless Geeze or Bobo comes in. I haven't seen Bobo on kaillera in ages, though (not that I've been on much myself), and lalla only comes on very infrequently.
I completely forgot that tool SwordStrength existed.

I don't know what happened to Geeze. He played like every day then suddenly he disappeared. Bobo and lalla are around. I've played them several times recently. I remember SwordStrength being a bit arrogant. I think I'd beat him now. Either way I'd like to find out.

[Mushishi Ginko]

kk so its time for me to do a little whining about the rules. I think the no moriya AC glitch rule should be removed because although it gives moriya a lot more potential its still difficult to use well and can easily be turned against him if its used predictably. It's really just another tool for him to use like any characters specials that has its ups and downs (maybe a few less downs then ups but shhh) and it makes for more interesting matches imo. Also although it may be a glitch (although im still not entirely convinced it is), it does suit moriyas style of being fast and having quick recovery and is really quite similar to his qcb+A/B/C move being able to hav its recovery shortened. ALSO its allowed in the A-CHO tournys and everyone knows the japanese are always rite :P. Oh and *:'( WAH WAH WAH WAH :'(*. kk im done.

I wonder who he'll be playing. lol

As annoying as I find it to play against someone who's properly using Moriya's AC glitch, I think we should allow it. Also, I don't see the point in banning Power Zantetsu if we're going to allow him on Speed and EX. They're only marginally less broken. We should ban him outright or ban any broken techniques. I think high pings can be more "game breaking" than anything. That's why I suggested we make p2p mandatory. Unfortunately, some people DO consistently desync.

[Mushishi Ginko]

In response to the special code morphing... If there isn't a rule stating that you can't use a different character after each match, why is Hagure banned? He has nothing going for him that picking the opponent's character doesn't, besides a nicer name. Hell, I can use everybody, in any mode if I really want, so it's not like he's a disadvantage. :p

SN: Stafos
Time: Specify any time, I can avoid sleep for up to three days. :p
Contact: Any of my respective IMs. :p

It's banned because it would, providing the loser changed his character, allow for a character change in the event of a win. Thereby nullifying the loser's ability to adjust to the winner's tactics. This is one of the very few things I think should be banned. Also, mirror matches are boring... haha

[hajimewaji]

OK, as a result of constant objection to Moriya's AC glitch. I've made a slight change to this rule. Check it out.

I don't know what happened to Geeze. He played like every day then suddenly he disappeared. Bobo and lalla are around. I've played them several times recently. I remember SwordStrength being a bit arrogant. I think I'd beat him now. Either way I'd like to find out.

From what I know, Geeze was studying in a pre-college program in Canada when he was on. So it may be possible that he finished it and is busy with college. Another possibility is that he might not like Canada anymore and moved back to China.

[hajimewaji]

Also, I don't see the point in banning Power Zantetsu if we're going to allow him on Speed and EX. They're only marginally less broken. We should ban him outright or ban any broken techniques.

The point of banning power Zan is that he's just too powerful mainly because of damage and his f,b,f + c move. A good power Zan player (don't know any who's in the tourney, I think sandman uses speed zan), can spam his f,b,f+c well and unfairly win the match. Speed zan has his damage reduced, and EX zan receives more damage.

[RushedDown]

the fact that your banning a character in any mode thats default playable is stupid
regardless of how broken he is in power mode

that would be like 3s tournies banning sa3 yun or sa2 chun

[Carmen]

Hi!

I'm getting a PS2 to USB (PC) adaptor soon, and I would love a chance to play BR 2 again. I don't have a Kaillera yet, but I'll get everything set up as soon as it arrives. I'll fill you in with more details to confirm as it arrives. My email is INTERNETEADDRESS @ hotmail.com

[EvilSamurai]

I don't get how the infinites are banned. What if you do part of an infinite but then stop? I am confused by this.

[Kyokuji]

From what I know, Geeze was studying in a pre-college program in Canada when he was on. So it may be possible that he finished it and is busy with college. Another possibility is that he might not like Canada anymore and moved back to China.

Hello used to talk about this guy from China who was really good with a lot of characters and used to be top LB2 player on kaillera but went back. I wonder if this is him. If it is, he's not as great as he was played up to be, though.

I don't get how the infinites are banned. What if you do part of an infinite but then stop? I am confused by this.

Infinites are just loops. Usually, there's a limit to the number you can do (which is usually one). All LB2 tournaments have this limit in place because the game is broke as shit otherwise. It's kind of hard to accidentally loop a combo twice anyway. For example with Moriya,

:l::snka:, :snka: :snkb: > teleport (AC) > Loop

Every single infinite in this game is done using links, so unless you're intentionally trying to time the hits to keep going, you won't do them by accident. The exception is Akari's back :snkb: in the corner, but that's usually limited to 2 hits because that's the maximum amount you can do away from the corner.

The Zantetsu thing is hard to be definite about, which is why I removed the ban/soft ban thing from the FAQ. I say allow him for now. He's not unbeatable by any means, he just seriously slows down the pace of the game, and he badly fucks over the viability of characters like Okina. He would've been far less gay if they'd kept his dash slice the way it was in the first game where it was slower, didn't do much damage and didn't knock down. Just be very careful when you jump towards him. Keep your distance and try to bait the move. If it gets blocked too close up, you can punish it quickly, or if you're in the air when he comes in, combo him on the way down. If he starts his links up in close, try to get off the ground unless you wanna get sucked into his 50-50 guessing game. Don't try to parry it on the ground. It's fast enough that if you whiff, he can catch you before you recover even if he's at the other end of the screen. Jumping straight up is the best counter provided you're not close enough that it goes behind you. Spacing and a good eye are key to winning the match-up.

[hajimewaji]

OK, I'll remove the ban on power Zan. There isn't anyone in this tourney who's super good with him anyway.

Oh, I forgot, I don't think his qcf+a, jump c, ac, hcb+c should be allowed, since it's using the AC glitch. What do you think guys?

[EvilSamurai]

Add me to the tournament. I am a n00b with this game but want to try it.

[Kyokuji]

Oh, I forgot, I don't think his qcf+a, jump c, ac, hcb+c should be allowed, since it's using the AC glitch. What do you think guys?

You're thinking of jump :snka:, :snkc: :hcb::snkc: and that combo doesn't need AC.
Zantetsu and Lee can chain ABC in the air without using glitches. It's just the repeated AC and O. Kaede's QCF stuff that's banned.

The only thing of Zantetsu's that I know is banned for sure is his :qcf::u::snka: infinite juggles.

Despite what you think Samurai, Last Blade is a fine game when it's played with certain rules in place. Broke as it may be, it's controllable unlike A3 or XvsSF. Watch some of the videos from A-CHO or MiKaDo. It's not ugly at all at high levels. Plus, it has a universal defense option like 3S and Garou, so even low tier characters have plenty of opportunities to land shit, but unlike those games, parrying in LB has a long whiff animation, so you can't option select them, and it doesn't turn into such a guessing game all the time.

[-WiL-]

Well for myself I'm fine with the ban list the way it is now hajimewaji

[hajimewaji]

EvilSamurai, can you please post your kaillera name, contact info, etc. like the sign up format says?

Thanks

[s4ndm4n21]

I gotta say im completely befuddled by the modified rule about the moriya glitch. "Moriya's AC glitch is allowed only once in a combo, and may not use speed chain after the AC glitch." First off, if you can't use a speed chain after it u can't really use it in a combo... except i guess for A -> dp+A which would only make the combo weaker. Also does this mean you cant do a speed chain after it outside a combo or do you just mean while theyre in hit stun? cuz if you cant do a speed chain after it period then it makes it essentially useless except for spacing or a quick throw. I definitely agree with the part about only using it once in a combo but the part about no speed chains i think is really weird and it'll make it way too hard to use because ill just be constantly going "am i allowed to do this?" while im playing rather than just quickly throwing things out on reaction. It looks like in all other tournys speed chains are allowed after it, ill post some links to some vids to demonstrate. Also it sounds like no one in this tourny really has any objections to it being used that way.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PPjsDNXtNVw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c3BRjOJj16k
http://youtube.com/watch?v=epFOtNydZ-c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q5AbEvRfJ38

[EvilSamurai]

Kaillera name: EvilSamurai
Method of Contact: pm on SRK
hours available: anytime prior to about 10:00pm except for 12-3 tuesdays

Would anyone mind teaching me the basics of LB2?

[Kyokuji]

Speed chains should be allowed after the AC teleport.

Kaillera name: EvilSamurai
Method of Contact: pm on SRK
hours available: anytime prior to about 10:00pm except for 12-3 tuesdays

Would anyone mind teaching me the basics of LB2?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=107229
If you want practice, Mushishi's going to the be the easiest high level player to find.

[hajimewaji]

OK fine. I'll allow speed chains after AC glitch. It seems like sandman will be using speed moriya in the tourney then?

[Stafos_Knight]

OK fine. I'll allow speed chains after AC glitch. It seems like sandman will be using speed moriya in the tourney then?

I'd be more afraid of his Juzoh and Shigen than his Moriya... I'd have to use one of my better characters against either of the throwers. ;p

[Mushishi Ginko]

I'd be more afraid of his Juzoh and Shigen than his Moriya... I'd have to use one of my better characters against either of the throwers. ;p

I wonder if you'll feel the same way after playing his speed Moriya. lol

I played at least 15-20 games against his speed Moriya over the weekend. It was frustrating to say the least. He's still figuring out how to play him properly on speed, and he's going to get better. That said, he's no slouch with Power Shigen either.

As far as practice goes, I'm willing to show anyone what I know. However, I'd prefer not to spend a lot of time on "How do I do x move" type questions. Kyokuji has put together an awesome strategy guide, and it's a crime not to use it. Most of the top active players (s4ndm4n21, Bobo-da-homo, lalla, etc.) are nice guys and will probably work with someone who's done their homework.

I'm on Godweapon occasionally during weekday evenings, and on weekends.

[hajimewaji]

we just need 3 more!!!!!

Please help me spread the words.

PS: It would be nice if Kyokuji can join too.

[s4ndm4n21]

Player:

Kaillera alias: JuNo
Availability: Weekends - any time, Weekdays - 7-10 pm (Eastern)
Method of contact: msn - andr3w65@hotmail.com, email - andr3w65@gmail.com

[keo-bas]

I will join if its possible for me.

1. Bas
2. It varies but usually around 11:00 pm -2:00am (eastern)
3. keogamer@hotmail.com ( prefer) / srk pms

[RushedDown]

Kaillera alias: RushedDown
Availability: everyday after 8 pm eastern
Method of contact:
Aim RushedDown
srk pm

[hajimewaji]

OK, we have enough people to start the tourney.

I, as the host of this tourney, announce that the tourney has started. Please contact your corresponding match up player.

Good luck!

[keo-bas]

I am an O. Keade user and though its a glitch and I dont favir them. Why is O keade glitch banned? not near and infinite and with his default damage output the way it is. I can see him benefiting little from it.

Im not saying alllow it but why is it banned?

[hajimewaji]

I was thinking of banning all glitches, but then some people complained about Moriya's AC glitch. Well, with enough support for his AC glitch, it sorta passed. Well, it seems that O. Kaede is at a bit disadvantage.
Let's see what others have to say about allowing it.

[Carmen]

Bah, too late! Though I would be unavailable next week. Next time, next time!

Hope for a competitive fight between y'all!

[keo-bas]

Im actully not to confident in using him this time. I'll do better sticking with yuki all the way this time.

[s4ndm4n21]

I hate to complain about the original kaede glitch after arguing for the moriya glitch but i personally think its far too broken. It essentially allows for an immediate 3-hit overhead attack that can be linked into any combo making blocking his attacks nearly impossible. All u gotta do is small jump, instantly throw out a c which is very fast and angled downwards allowing it to hit even a crouching opponent, then wait till ur at the apex of the jump, qcf+b, qcf+A, land, combo.

P.S. Am I just reading the tourny matchup diagram wrong or do the losers from the semifinals in the winners bracket not get a second chance?

[keo-bas]

I hate to complain about the original kaede glitch after arguing for the moriya glitch but i personally think its far too broken. It essentially allows for an immediate 3-hit overhead attack that can be linked into any combo making blocking his attacks nearly impossible. All u gotta do is small jump, instantly throw out a c which is very fast and angled downwards allowing it to hit even a crouching opponent, then wait till ur at the apex of the jump, qcf+b, qcf+A, land, combo.

P.S. Am I just reading the tourny matchup diagram wrong or do the losers from the semifinals in the winners bracket not get a second chance?
Aw...oh well I guess. Have to use yuki then

[Stafos_Knight]

*wins his match

Also, Hajime! For the love of whichever god and/or deity you worship:
http://www.bracketmaker.com/

[Kyokuji]

It essentially allows for an immediate 3-hit overhead attack that can be linked into any combo making blocking his attacks nearly impossible.

He can also keep chaining normals as long as he's in the air, so there's nothing to stop him from just blitzing the hell out of you with crazy air chains.

[keo-bas]

Ive recorded the matches on my webcambut its not good in quality a due to angle adjustment im missing part of the screen.

[hajimewaji]

OK, guys, can you post your match result in the format specified in the format described in the first post? it's right after the brackets.

PLEASE PLEASE READ EVERYTHING ON THE FIRST POST!!!!!

Also, regarding the format of the brackets, I'm sticking to what I have right now.

[keo-bas]

Stafos knight vs Keo-bas
----------2-----------------1-----------------
---------(P-Yuki-1/P-Kagami-2)--------(P-Yuki-1/S-Yuki-2)

[RushedDown]

seriously wtf is this shit with my first opponent only having an email for a contact
im not gonna hunt the kid thru emails
u need to make some form of im program a requirement for participating

[RushedDown]

muukuu beats me 2-0
p-mukoro - p hibiki

i used speed moriya and speed shigen

also wtf with being able to switch your characters when u dont lose?
i thought it was only u could switch your groove

and im dropping out i didnt notice u were mame .64 only
that emu is shit

[EvilSamurai]

this is mame64 only? fuck I practiced power lee links for at least like 5 hours in nfba. I am also going to be dropping out if this is the case.

[Stafos_Knight]

muukuu beats me 2-0
p-mukoro - p hibiki

i used speed moriya and speed shigen

also wtf with being able to switch your characters when u dont lose?
i thought it was only u could switch your groove

and im dropping out i didnt notice u were mame .64 only
that emu is shit

First off, I would like to say, you fail. If Hagure is banned, you can't switch your characters after winning a match. For the last blade deprived: Hagure is Akari's paper doll that takes the form of the opponent. A code can be used to have him for the entire match generating a mirror match.

this is mame64 only? fuck I practiced power lee links for at least like 5 hours in nfba. I am also going to be dropping out if this is the case.

As long as both people agree, I'm sure you can use a different emulator if there are no emulator specific bugs. Also, if your total playtime of LB2 is equal to or less than 24 hours, I wouldn't fancy your chances. nFBA is nice for 3s, it's not nice for anything that uses the neogeo bios. If/until GGPO supports LB2, FBA is a horrible choice for it... Also, I can do the same combos easier on mame, wachoo bitchin' about?

[Mushishi Ginko]

I agree with what Stafos said about nFBA. It might be a great EMU, but the NeoGeo BIOS situation is a deal breaker. Online competitive play pretty much demands that you run the game in home mode, and that's a royal pain in the ass on nFBA. The situation might be different if the BIOS could be distributed with the EMU, but I think we all understand that there are legal limitations in that respect. I also have issues with the way controls are mapped in NFBA.

Personally, I do not agree with allowing Hagure or changing characters after a win. I suggested to Hajime that we allow character changes in the event of a loss *only*. Unfortunately, he either expanded this to allow for character changing in the event of a win or a loss, or he didn't properly clarify the rules.

I hope RushedDown and EvilSamurai reconsider dropping out.

[Kyokuji]

Why don't you just use MAMEPPK 0.119? It's not nFBA, but it beats the shit out of 0.64 for delay.
You can get it easily from the official kaillera website.

Also, nFBA might not be preferable because of stages with lag, but the arcade tournaments don't have access to a stage select, and they put up with it, so that's something to think about.

[Mushishi Ginko]

Why don't you just use MAMEPPK 0.119? It's not nFBA, but it beats the shit out of 0.64 for delay.
You can get it easily from the official kaillera website.

Also, nFBA might not be preferable because of stages with lag, but the arcade tournaments don't have access to a stage select, and they put up with it, so that's something to think about.

As far as I saw when I tested LB2 on nFBA it had the same slowdown problems as Mame 0.64. IMO the laggy stages are more game-breaking than Mame 0.64's extra frame of input lag because they're not consistent. In short, I don't think there's any single flaw in Mame 0.64 that should cause someone to drop out of the tournament. Either way, the time to argue about emulators was *before* the tournament started.

I'll concede the point that the community should move away from Mame 0.64. This is why I tested nFBA.

One thing regarding your comment about arcade tournaments. In tournament videos it doesn't seem that the slowdown problem is as noticeable. It could just be because I'm watching, and not playing.

[Edit] After looking closely at some match vids the slowdown is apparent. However, they don't have to wrestle with input delay, and network lag which are factors in online play. I still believe it's not a fair comparison.

[RushedDown]

First off, I would like to say, you fail. If Hagure is banned, you can't switch your characters after winning a match. For the last blade deprived: Hagure is Akari's paper doll that takes the form of the opponent. A code can be used to have him for the entire match generating a mirror match.



As long as both people agree, I'm sure you can use a different emulator if there are no emulator specific bugs. Also, if your total playtime of LB2 is equal to or less than 24 hours, I wouldn't fancy your chances. nFBA is nice for 3s, it's not nice for anything that uses the neogeo bios. If/until GGPO supports LB2, FBA is a horrible choice for it... Also, I can do the same combos easier on mame, wachoo bitchin' about?

so i fail huh
the person i played reset and switch their character after they won the first match
and i said wtf and they replied its allowed
i only entered to help u guys fill a cap for a game i dont play cause yall was struggling to get 12 players.......

so dont tell me i fail at shit son


and unfortunatley i will not reconsider playing .64 is beyond garbage
i only keep that shit around to play 4 player xvsf with a friend sometimes

[hajimewaji]

OK, regarding the character changing rule. Originally, I had the players pick out the characters before the matches started. Then Mushishi said it's not a good idea, then I took it out. My fault is that I never clarified further about the character selection rule. So any interpretation could be valid.
Personally, I think people should stick to one character throughout the entire tourney, but I guess a lot of people object to that.

OK, let me make it official now: based on the opinions of the board, you can ONLY switch character after a match, if you LOSE the previous match. Same with modes, you can ONLY switch modes after a match, if you LOSE the previous match.

---------------------

Regarding the emulator issue:
I don't really care what emulator you use for the tourney, as long as both players agree on one. If there is an argument over the emulator to use, both parties default to mame v0.64. That is the emulator the a large part of the last blade 2 community has been using for ages, and it's only fair to favor the majority of the players rather than compensating for only 1 or 2 people.

[Mushishi Ginko]

so i fail huh
the person i played reset and switch their character after they won the first match
and i said wtf and they replied its allowed
i only entered to help u guys fill a cap for a game i dont play cause yall was struggling to get 12 players.......

so dont tell me i fail at shit son


and unfortunatley i will not reconsider playing .64 is beyond garbage
i only keep that shit around to play 4 player xvsf with a friend sometimes

Before this gets out of hand, I believe Stafos interpreted your previous e-mail incorrectly. I think he thought YOU changed your character after a win.

Also, with all due respect, playing Last Blade 2 on 0.64 is not THAT bad. Yes, it could be better but it's flaws don't have a material effect on playability. That's my opinion of course.

In Muukuu's defense, the rules as they existed at the time of your match didn't forbid changing after a win. I think it would be cool of Muukuu to replay the remainder of the set (keeping his first win), but I don't think he did anything wrong.

[RushedDown]

Before this gets out of hand, I believe Stafos interpreted your previous e-mail incorrectly. I think he thought YOU changed your character after a win.

Also, with all due respect, playing Last Blade 2 on 0.64 is not THAT bad. Yes, it could be better but it's flaws don't have a material effect on playability. That's my opinion of course.

In Muukuu's defense, the rules as they existed at the time of your match didn't forbid changing after a win. I think it would be cool of Muukuu to replay the remainder of the set (keeping his first win), but I don't think he did anything wrong.

it also didnt say that u could change character upon win
and every tourney i have ever been to or played in the only time u were allowed to change your character was if the arcade mode let u do that

ie mk games where after a win when u go back to character select both players were able to change characters again

i have no desire to play him again
i lost it was ggs
i wanted to play on nfba but he didnt have it so we used .64
good luck to the rest of u who are still cometing in the tourney

[Stafos_Knight]

Before this gets out of hand, I believe Stafos interpreted your previous e-mail incorrectly. I think he thought YOU changed your character after a win.

Also, with all due respect, playing Last Blade 2 on 0.64 is not THAT bad. Yes, it could be better but it's flaws don't have a material effect on playability. That's my opinion of course.

Whoops, I suppose that's what two days without sleep gets me.. Yeah, I thought he changed his character after a win. Though, my personal belief is that anything other than kawaks (as much as I like kawaks, it's input detection is trash) that can easily access home mode is good enough.

so i fail huh
the person i played reset and switch their character after they won the first match
and i said wtf and they replied its allowed
i only entered to help u guys fill a cap for a game i dont play cause yall was struggling to get 12 players.......

You fail in the event that you were the one that didn't understand how it worked. Otherwise, I retract that comment. I blame Kyo and Hajime not entering for the lack of people, though, kyo would probably sweep it in all odds.

[RushedDown]

Whoops, I suppose that's what two days without sleep gets me.. Yeah, I thought he changed his character after a win. Though, my personal belief is that anything other than kawaks (as much as I like kawaks, it's input detection is trash) that can easily access home mode is good enough.



You fail in the event that you were the one that didn't understand how it worked. Otherwise, I retract that comment. I blame Kyo and Hajime not entering for the lack of people, though, kyo would probably sweep it in all odds.

didnt understand how what worked?
i understand that u never get to change your characters in any fighting game that not mk unless u lose
and i understand that no where did it say u could or u couldnt switch
but that shit is an unwritten rule in tournies
the only thing i fail to understand is mame .64

[EvilSamurai]

ok I am still in then.

[Kyokuji]

I couldn't enter if I wanted to. My PC broke down a month or so ago, so I've been on my laptop ever since, and this laptop KB sucks ass.
I have a stick, but I suck balls on it, and one of the buttons is fucked up anyway. I've got a saturn pad and a converter coming within the month, so hopefully I'll be able to get back on then.

[Nightwing1990]

can i enter or is it 2 late

[hajimewaji]

OK, if RushedDown is gonna drop out of the tourney, then Nightwing can join and replace him in the loser bracket.

RushedDown, just give me a word on whether you still want to be in the tourney or not.

[-WiL-]

The only reason I can see for not using nFBA with the special p2p client is the lack of stage select.
Other than that nFBA is superior in every way.
As for mame 0.117, I've never tried playing anything other than CPS3 games on it so I can't comment.

[Mushishi Ginko]

The only reason I can see for not using nFBA with the special p2p client is the lack of stage select.
Other than that nFBA is superior in every way.
As for mame 0.117, I've never tried playing anything other than CPS3 games on it so I can't comment.

I have issues with the way controls are mapped. I have my buttons set in the following config on the front 4 buttons of my gamepad.

:snka::snkb:
:snkc::snkd:


LB2 regularly forces you to use :snka::snkb:, :snka::snkc:, :snkc::snkd:, and :snkb::snkc: button combinations. No matter how I orient my buttons there would always be a diagonal combination that's difficult or impossible to consistently execute. My setup pretty much requires me to map button combinations to a single button, or map :snka:, :snkb:, :snkc:, or :snkd: to multiple buttons. The problem is I can't figure out how to do this on nFBA.

[Stafos_Knight]

I have issues with the way controls are mapped. I have my buttons set in the following config on the front 4 buttons of my gamepad.

:snka::snkb:
:snkc::snkd:


LB2 regularly forces you to use :snka::snkb:, :snka::snkc:, :snkc::snkd:, and :snkb::snkc: button combinations. No matter how I orient my buttons there would always be a diagonal combination that's difficult or impossible to consistently execute. My setup pretty much requires me to map button combinations to a single button, or map :snka:, :snkb:, :snkc:, or :snkd: to multiple buttons. The problem is I can't figure out how to do this on nFBA.

FBA supports custom macros, to use these, paste the line onto the bottom of your fbadirectory\config\games\GAMENAME.ini

FBA custom macro format:
custom "" switch 0xQQ "button" 0x01 "button" 0x01

Custom - Denotes custom macro

"" - Name space, detection for name is broken on older FBA versions. I suggest leaving this blank.

switch - Makes note for the key you need to press to activate it.

0xQQ - Replace QQ with the hex value for the key you wish to use for it, to find this out, set a useless P2 key to what you want, then copy it's value.

"button" 0x01 - Replace "button" with what you want to use AS FBA LISTS IT IN THE .INI FILE. THIS IS PROBABLY CASE SENSITIVE.

An example of a complete LB2 (or SNK, if you prefer) macro:

custom "" switch 0x11 "P1 Button A" 0x01 "P1 Button B" 0x01
This will activate AB when the key W is pressed.

Limitations/issues:
There is only support for one custom macro.
Config for it (once set) shows up at the BOTTOM of the control input menu.
You can only have a maximum of four buttons registered.

Screenshot for fun:
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii93/Keseka/clipboard-19.jpg

[Nightwing1990]

Im kinda rusty i haven't played for awhile so i think anyone could beat me now

[Mushishi Ginko]

FBA custom macro format:
custom "" switch 0xQQ "button" 0x01 "button" 0x01

Custom - Denotes custom macro

"" - Name space, detection for name is broken.

switch - Makes note for the key you need to press to activate it.

0xQQ - Replace QQ with the hex value for the key you wish to use for it, to find this out, set a useless P2 key to what you want, then copy it's value.

"button" 0x01 - Replace "button" with what you want to use.

An example of a complete LB2 macro:

custom "" switch 0x11 "P1 Button A" 0x01 "P1 Button B" 0x01

This will activate AB when the key W is pressed.

Then my only remaining gripe is the NeoGeo BIOS situation. IMO it's a pretty serious problem when it comes to LB2. It's not like I have stock in Mame or anything. It's just that it works where it counts. I would love to play on an EMU that worked better.

[RushedDown]

OK, if RushedDown is gonna drop out of the tourney, then Nightwing can join and replace him in the loser bracket.

RushedDown, just give me a word on whether you still want to be in the tourney or not.

nah nightwing can take my spot

[hajimewaji]

This thread has become a emulator discussion thread. lol

OK, nightwing, you are in.

[Stafos_Knight]

Well, my nerd-hat isn't shown unless I'm showing off common knowledge of emulator functions. Also, I edited that a bunch of times so it's a lil easier to understand.

[Nightwing1990]

iight who do i face?

[hajimewaji]

well. Nightwing, you are in the loser bracket since RushedDown lost his match. So you'll be fighting Keo-Bas

[keo-bas]

Just contact me to set up a match date.

[-JuNo-]

sorry samurai, I missed our match but im free all sat just try to be here sooner cause im usually out a lot on weekends around 3pm and after

[s4ndm4n21]

bah, I'm gonna pass on using moriya for the tourny, I'm actually getting WORSE with him >_< srry about all the arguing about his glitch for nothing :P I'll hopefully be familiar enuf with him for the next tourny but this time around I'm gonna stick with shigen. BTW WilMaster, why is it that I hear from reason your impersonating me on kaillera with that InTraining name...

[-WiL-]

I've been using InTraining all week....we played each other. Haven't impersonated anyone.

[Mushishi Ginko]

I've been using InTraining all week....we played each other. Haven't impersonated anyone.

When I asked who he was last night he identified himself straight up. A misunderstanding perhaps?

[s4ndm4n21]

When I asked who he was last night he identified himself straight up. A misunderstanding perhaps?

ya, same as when I played him but reason told me he identified himself as sandman. Aparently he got confused or something, misunderstanding, nm.

[s4ndm4n21]

s4ndm4n21 vs Mushishi Ginko
-------2-----------------1-------
Winner s4ndm4n21
round 1: s4ndm4n21: P. Shigen, Mushishi Ginko: P. Hibiki
round 2: s4ndm4n21: P. Shigen, Mushishi Ginko: S. Hibiki
round 3: s4ndm4n21: P. Shigen, Mushishi Ginko: S. Hibiki

very sexy match imo. I wish we had recorded it but when we tried p2p we desynced like half the matches so we ended having to play on Anti3D >_<
GG Mushi.

EDIT: Woops, srry bout that, thought the number was player number not number of matches won >_<

[Mushishi Ginko]

Mushishi Ginko vs s4ndm4n21
--------2-----------------1------
Winner s4ndm4n21
round 1: Mushishi Ginko: P. Hibiki, s4ndm4n21: P. Shigen
round 2: Mushishi Ginko: S. Hibiki, s4ndm4n21: P. Shigen
round 3: Mushishi Ginko: S. Hibiki, s4ndm4n21: P. Shigen

very sexy match imo. I wish we had recorded it but when we tried p2p we desynced like half the matches so we ended having to play on Anti3D >_<
GG Mushi.

LOL

Don't you mean....
s4ndm4n21--------------Mushishi Ginko
-----2-------------------------------1--------


gg back at you. That was an insane comeback in that last game.

[Stafos_Knight]

bah, I'm gonna pass on using moriya for the tourny, I'm actually getting WORSE with him >_< srry about all the arguing about his glitch for nothing :P I'll hopefully be familiar enuf with him for the next tourny but this time around I'm gonna stick with shigen.

I predicted this result.

It's witchcraft I tells ya.

[computergeeek1986]

It seems the rules changed, in page 3 the rule of keeping wining character. When presented this to Reason we re did the match. Unfortunately, I lost. However, that rule does tick me off. Thus I quit.

Next time, get the rules straight and have them on the first post... I'm sure that's not difficult

Thanks,

Setsuna

[computergeeek1986]

Setuna vs Reason
---1-----------2----
Winner: Reason
match 1: Setsuna: S. Setsuna, Reason: P. Hibiki
match 2: Setsuna: S. Setsuna, Reason: P. Hibiki
match 3: Setsuna: S. Setsuna, Reason: P. Hibiki

There we go! Good luck to all

[Susejmai]

Player:

Kaillera alias: Susejmai
Availability: Almost every evening (pacific) and every morning
Method of contact:
email: cody_lmoreno@hotmail.com

[hajimewaji]

C'mon people. Pick up your paces, especially EvilSamurai vs Juno and Wil vs Izule.
When are you guys gonna be done with the first round?
I don't want this tourney to last for months.

[-JuNo-]

where the hell is that evil samurai guy.. he doesnt post on here man

[-WiL-]

whats the deadline for round one>?

ussually the tournement organizer sets that kind of thing.

[Mushishi Ginko]

Could you clarify, as much as possible, how the losers bracket is going to work? I think it's a good idea to hash out the rules before we start.


Here's how I think it should work

1. 6 losers from winners bracket first round
2. Players A,B, C, D, E, F will compete in groups AB, CD, EF
3. Winners of each 3 groups will advance to second round of losers bracket.

4. 3 winners from losers bracket, and 3 losers from winners bracket
5. Players A,B, C, D, E, F will compete in groups ABC, DEF
6. Winners from each group will advance to the third round of losers bracket.

7. 2 winners from losers bracket, and 1 loser from winners bracket (Personally, I believe the bottom half of the winners bracket should get a bye. This is based on the fact that it contained 3 of the most skilled players in the draw)
8. Players A, B, and C will compete in group ABC
9. The winner will progress the the fourth round of the losers bracket.

10. There is 1 winner from the losers bracket, and 1 loser from the winners bracket
11. Players A and B will play each other.
12. The winner will progress to the final.

13. In the final the winners bracket winner needs to win 1 of 2 sets to become champion. The losers bracket winner (which I'm a member of. No favoritism here) must win 2 consecutive sets to become the champion.

[hajimewaji]

It's simple, the winner of the loser bracket fights in the semi-final of the winner bracket.

[s4ndm4n21]

s4ndm4n21 vs Muukuu
-------2-------------0----
Winner s4ndm4n21
round 1: s4ndm4n21: P. Shigen, Muukuu: P. Mukuro
round 2: s4ndm4n21: P. Shigen, Muukuu: P. Hibiki

gg Muukuu.

[Mushishi Ginko]

It's simple, the winner of the loser bracket fights in the semi-final of the winner bracket.

Unless I'm missing something I don't think it's quite that simple. So who do I play in this round, and how will it work? Also, which semi-final?

[hajimewaji]

The semi-final of the winner bracket of course.
You fight one of the losers of the first round in winner bracket. Don't worry. I'll post who should fight who.

[Mushishi Ginko]

The semi-final of the winner bracket of course.
You fight one of the losers of the first round in winner bracket. Don't worry. I'll post who should fight who.

There will be 3 semi-finalists in the winners bracket. I'm guessing the losers bracket winner will play sandman. I'm just saying it's not 100% clear. There clearer the rules are, the less bitching there will be.

[hajimewaji]

There will be 3 semi-finalists in the winners bracket. I'm guessing the losers bracket winner will play sandman. I'm just saying it's not 100% clear. There clearer the rules are, the less bitching there will be.

Yes, that is correct. The winner of loser bracket will fight sandman.

[-JuNo-]

what happens if evil samurai doesnt show his head? will i get a free pass and actually get to fight someone?

[EvilSamurai]

what happens if evil samurai doesnt show his head? will i get a free pass and actually get to fight someone?

I am withdrawing. Sorry about this.

[Mushishi Ginko]

Yes, that is correct. The winner of loser bracket will fight sandman.

How will that work? Will the losers bracket winner need to win 2 consecutive sets? Since sandman hasn't lost it wouldn't be fair to eliminate him after losing a single set.

[hajimewaji]

How will that work? Will the losers bracket winner need to win 2 consecutive sets? Since sandman hasn't lost it wouldn't be fair to eliminate him after losing a single set.

It will just be a regular match vs. sandman like any other match in this tourney.
OK, Mushishi, you should stop taking this tourney too seriously. We don't have prizes. It's just for fun and a way to revive the lb2 community little bit.

I am planning to have a follow-up tourney (8 people) once this one finishes. I recently got several people wanting to join the tourney after it started. So, the follow-up should satisfy their desire.

Juno, you automatically move up to the 2nd round.

Mushishi, you automatically move up to the 2nd round in loser bracket.

[-WiL-]

WiLMaster vs Izule
0-------------- 2
I used P. Kagami and he used S.Setsuna

Edit: I'm also withdrawing

[hajimewaji]

WiLMaster vs Izule
0-------------- 2
I used P. Kagami and he used S.Setsuna

Edit: I'm also withdrawing

What happened to the world where people played games for fun???

OK. Now we are done with the 1st rounds. Susejmai automatically moves up.

[Mushishi Ginko]

you should stop taking this tourney too seriously.

NEVER!!!!!

[Nightwing1990]

keo-bas just holla at me

[hajimewaji]

Reason vs. Izule
---2------------1---
Round 1,2,3: Reason - P. Hibiki, Izule - S. Setsuna

OK, there is a little change in the loser bracket. Since Susejmai is a new player. I'm having Muukuu fighting Izule next.

[hajimewaji]

Muukuu vs. Izule
----2-----------1----
Round 1: Muukuu - P. Mukuro, Izule - S. Setsuna
Round 2: Muukuu - P. Mukuro, Izule - S. Setsuna
Round 3: Muukuu - P. Lee, Izule - S. Setsuna

Izule is eliminated from the tourney.

[Nightwing1990]

keo-bas u there

[Stafos_Knight]

Heh, so I'm not the only one having trouble searching for my opponent.

[Nightwing1990]

Knight i played u b4 right or was that throwdice

[Mushishi Ginko]

Come on people. How much effort does it take to arrange a 10 minute match? If the brackets don't advance over the weekend I'm gonna drop out. This is getting a bit silly.

[Kyokuji]

Every online tournament is like this. Remember that one I entered in Europe years ago? Lol. We managed to finish it, but it took like 3 months. I shit you not.

[Stafos_Knight]

Knight i played u b4 right or was that throwdice

In your tournament, I got matched with dice. Dice lagged terribly to the point where I couldn't play him, even on P2P. I posted about that, the whole mess got screwed around and I never played a match. It was terrible, I refuse to play somebody with over 30 frames of input delay.

Stafos Versus -JuNo-
Match 1: Stafos: P. Juzoh ||| Versus ||| -JuNo-: S. Lee
Match 2: Stafos: P. Kagami ||| Versus ||| -JuNo-: S. Lee
Match 3: Stafos: P. Kagami ||| Versus ||| -JuNo-: EX. Washizuka

Stafos: 2
-JuNo-: 1

I can't believe I lost using Juzoh... I barely (like, 1-2 frames from hit) got stuffed like 200100 times with his unblockable using the strategy I chose.

[Nightwing1990]

Keo-Bas barley plays this i think he play kof 98 more
Edit: During th spring break i will hold a lb2 online tournament and it will be more accessible then this..

[hajimewaji]

Keo-Bas barley plays this i think he play kof 98 more
Edit: During th spring break i will hold a lb2 online tournament and it will be more accessible then this..

OK, this is getting really ridiculous. I haven't seen keo for awhile, even on msn. So I guess he lost interest when when lost the first round. Well NightWing, if you don't hear from Keo Bas for within the next 2 days, you automatically move up to fight Mushishi.

[Nightwing1990]

kk...........

[hajimewaji]

All right NightWing, you are up, KeoBas is out. Prepare yourself for Mushishi

[Reasonli]

Reason vs. Stafos
----2-----------0----
Round 1: Reason - P. Hibiki, Stafos - S. Setsuna
Round 2: Reason - P. Hibiki, Stafos - P. Juzoh

[Nightwing1990]

ok mushishi anytime during this weekend

[Mushishi Ginko]

ok mushishi anytime during this weekend

I PM'd you with my MSN. We can probably set a time this Saturday. I'm working (literally) all day Sunday. If you're around tonight we can play.

[Nightwing1990]

tonight sounds gud

[keo-bas]

Yeah I'm a late. Sorry
its not that I'm not interested but Stupid brawl stole my life. I'm gonna do a law suet Nintendo.

Also landed new FULL TIME job that I can barely play games. :(
Im sorry night and every other participant

[Ultimate_Braver]

sigh,
no ever told me about this :'-(

[Nightwing1990]

sigh,
no ever told me about this :'-(

i would've beat u anyway:lovin:

[hajimewaji]

well Braver, you can replace Muukuu if you want

[Nightwing1990]

this tournament is a train wreck

[Mushishi Ginko]

Mushishi Ginko vs. Nightwing1990
--------2---------------------0-------

Round 1: Mushishi Ginko - S. Hibiki, Nightwing1990 - S. Shigen
Round 2: Mushishi Ginko - S. Hibiki, Nightwing1990 - S. Shigen


ggs bro. It was more interesting set than the score might otherwise suggest.



EDIT: Although I haven't asked him yet, if Braver doesn't want to replace Muukuu, Victory might want to jump in. Although he's not at his best, he's still fairly sharp. I guess it's up to Braver.

[Reasonli]

Hajime just told me that he's very busy with his work. He asked me to help him finish hosting the tournament.

I've created a new thread, because I couldn't update the match results otherwise.

and here it is

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=4950780#post4950780

for the upcoming matches, please post your match results there,
thanks

[-JuNo-]

um im withdrawing due to shitty computer and i dont really have time due to school work and social life.. soo, not to sound like an asshole saying you guys dont, dont take it that way ^_^; Mame always runs choppy for me as ggpo runs smooth all the time, no idea what the problem could be.. but i am withdrawing and peace to you all. good fight good night( i guess )

[Ultimate_Braver]

can i replace someone who isn't active in the tourny then?

[Mushishi Ginko]

Are you sure your social life can handle the loss of 10 minutes in which it'll take you to play a match? Haha! You can replace Juno and play me I guess. Reason is running the tournament now. You should contact him.

[ShinnonGametap]

well im new to the whole emulator but you will be seeing me soon on the winning side. I was wondering if anybody knew about it being on Gametap since i'm already on Gametap anyway.

[ShinnonGametap]

can somebody tell me how to get in these tournamnets.I've downloaded the MAME and now i just dont know what else to do>>>>>>>>?!

[Mushishi Ginko]

can somebody tell me how to get in these tournamnets.I've downloaded the MAME and now i just dont know what else to do>>>>>>>>?!

If you're looking to find high level opponents you don't need to enter a tournament. In fact, in a tournament you're not likely to get much experience against high level players because, assuming you're new to the game, you'll be eliminated fairly quickly. There are several skilled players floating around, but you'll need to get online first. Below is a link to a MAME beginners thread on these forums. It should help get you started.


"The Beginners Guide to MAME"
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=103943

[ShinnonGametap]

Yeah i did all that but what username am i supposed to enter or how do I connect, all it is telling me is Error requesting server list. And i got mad skills bro im on Gametap putting it down on whoever.

[ShinnonGametap]

I need help trying to connect with the network or something since i'm new to the MAME system i just need a littl help connecting with other players online I have the game downloaded like said i just have'nt been able to get a match against a human and i dont know what i'm doing or have'nt done. But everything else is fine for me i can play the game like i want, but i need human opponents to play .

[Carmen]

Hi,

What exactly is the problem? Send me a PM and I'll try my best to help you, as I also had a lot of problems with MAME when I was starting up. I'm also looking for Bakumatsu players to play, so I'll be def. into playing you if you'd like. (Plug for PMs guys!)

[ShinnonGametap]

If anybody wants a match in Last Blade 2 than post up in the waiting game lobby i'll check it out and challenge anybody

[Mushishi Ginko]

If anybody wants a match in Last Blade 2 than post up in the waiting game lobby i'll check it out and challenge anybody

My experience is very few people are patient enough to host on "waiting games", and wait for an opponent to show up. Many people will either IM players they already know or hang around public servers looking for a game. The community is small to begin with, and only 1/2 to 2/3 of those within the LB2 community actually use the p2p client. If you want to find opponents I recommend you not restrict yourself to p2p only. Godweapon, and Daroms are the most active east/mid coast servers for LB2. I'm not sure about servers on the west coast.

[ShinnonGametap]

When i went to play network game i saw a person waiting to play Last Blade 2 and i clicked to connect with them but it didnt go is there a waiting time for it to connect to and how will i know if it is going thru.Because i clicked the person that was waitng to play but i dont know how to connect i enter there IP number and there name but than what just wait for it to connect.

[ShinnonGametap]

Well im gonna try to host a game but how do i know if someone is connecting with me.Will i get a notification of some kind?

[Carmen]

Hi,

You'll get a sound, but to host you'll need to not be behind a router/wireless (unless you're willing to port forward, theres a thread of that somewhere.) I feel I may have given you the wrong impression though. Most people set up times to fight, etc. by contacting each other or using IRC's chat. They don't sign in looking for games on P2P usually.

[ShinnonGametap]

I'm host ing Last Blade 2 with p2p MAME32k anybody wanna challenge me?

[ShinnonGametap]

what button do i press when a challenger comes do i press the cpr or ping how do i get the match started

[-WiL-]

You just need to check the little box that says "click here when ready"

[Nightwing1990]

I'm host ing Last Blade 2 with p2p MAME32k anybody wanna challenge me?

try play pubically to