Do you like the 3rd Strike characters more than the SF2 characters?

[magdalenarules]

If you had to choose between SF4 having brand new characters plus all ST characters and bosses or SF4 having brand new characters plus all 3rd strike characters and bosses which would you choose? I keep hearing everyone say "I loved the 3rd strike characters!" "no one liked the 3rd strike characters, maybe a few people but most people hated them", so I figured why not get a real numeric statistical sample to answer the question

[PsychoSquall]

All of the ST characters are included in the Alpha roster, and then some...

[Jimmy Bones]

If you had to choose between SF4 having brand new characters plus all ST characters and bosses or SF4 having brand new characters plus all 3rd strike characters and bosses which would you choose? I keep hearing everyone say "I loved the 3rd strike characters!" "no one liked the 3rd strike characters, maybe a few people but most people hated them", so I figured why not get a real numeric statistical sample to answer the question

SF2 comes at top. As for SF3, a lot of people wurr upset there no old characters except Ryu, Ken, Chun-li and Akuma. Most characters who replaced old characters has no connection, espcially Remy. Charlie to Guile to Remy???? From 2 Americans soldiers to a French guy?... no sense at all. But I like Dudley, no hatin.

But SF2 char comes at top. And All Alpha rosters

[magdalenarules]

Yeah I guess I should have said "the alpha-only characters", oh well I think people will get the basic point

[ETOTHENG]

I like the Street fighter 2 serie characters best, the other character from Street Fighter 3 are jokes, seriously, From Zangief to Hugo?? come on, like somebody said, from Guile, Charlie to Remy? From Shotos to.......well shotos, i love chun li, i cant say nothing about her. and the most i hate about SF3s is this guy called Urien or something like that (yeah, the guy that is wearing diapers) this guy does a kind of electric shield in frot of you that you cant do nothing seriusly, and im not even going to talk about his brother, thats the cheapest boss ever. i try to play that game the other day and i regret it, Street Fighter 2 hands down.

[Nokato]

Hmmm, I actually liked that Capcom took a departure and made something different with Third Strike. The art, presentation, music made for a different ambience with the game that I thought at least in terms of artistic presentation was really good.

This isn't to say that I don't like SF2 bosses/characters but it was nice to see a synergy of hip/hop and SF work together as well as it did, sans some of the bland lyrics..Nonetheless I really liked the presentation in 3s.

[Tim Static]

The Alpha series is my favorite in the world of SF.

FTR, I play SFA3M on my PSP more than any other game. :D

[Hooligan]

ST.

ST had three of my favorite characters; Vega, Cammy, and Blanka. Each of which have a unique style that has yet (imo) been recreated successfully.

While 3S had a "unique" cast there were some characters I felt were lack luster (Sean, Remy, Hugo). Don't get me wrong there were quite a few interesting characters (Makoto, Oro, Yang, Q) but none of them stood out as the three from ST.

Alpha gets little love from me. I can honestly say there is only one character I find remotely interesting from Alpha and that'd be guy. Then again, I didn't really like the Alpha series in the first place.

[Jimmy Bones]

Hmmm, I actually liked that Capcom took a departure and made something different with Third Strike. The art, presentation, music made for a different ambience with the game that I thought at least in terms of artistic presentation was really good.

This isn't to say that I don't like SF2 bosses/characters but it was nice to see a synerg of hip/hop and SF work together as well as it did, sans some of the bland lyrics..Nonetheless I really liked the presentation in 3s.

I agree wit you, The OP music and Player Select music, luvin it
1999, baby

[COUM]

i hate 3rd strikes gameplay and i think the character designs are terrible, but from a gameplay perspective it would be interesting to see how they play in a game without parrying

[R.P.D rookie]

I like the Street fighter 2 serie characters best, the other character from Street Fighter 3 are jokes, seriously, From Zangief to Hugo?? come on, like somebody said, from Guile, Charlie to Remy? From Shotos to.......well shotos, i love chun li, i cant say nothing about her. and the most i hate about SF3s is this guy called Urien or something like that (yeah, the guy that is wearing diapers) this guy does a kind of electric shield in frot of you that you cant do nothing seriusly, and im not even going to talk about his brother, thats the cheapest boss ever. i try to play that game the other day and i regret it, Street Fighter 2 hands down.




Block is your friend. :smile:

[Roshihikari]

I like SFIII:3S gameplay, but I don't did enjoy the Alpha 3 gameplay too. But as for characters, Alpha 3 had the best set of characters.

[Hatred Edge]

Block is your friend. :smile:

:rofl::rofl:

[Vance]

If it's both the main characters and boss characters as a package deal, I would go with the original 12 from SF:WW everytime. But frankly, I hope Capcom doesn't bring back any boss characters like Balrog, Vega, Sagat, or Bison and instead bring in some characters from SF: 3rd Strike like Dudley, Alex, Urien, or Ibuki.

If they brought in all the 3rd Strike characters then it would suck ass because Gill would be in the game and Gill represents almost everything that went wrong with 3rd Strike.

[ETOTHENG]

Block is your friend. :smile:
Yeah, when u try blocking the diapered guy(the mexican one) he just start doing some random overheads and sweeps, and his super gets full again and guess what?? electric barrier again, then tackle, then the same thing again, changing subjet the other day i was playing agains the two colored guy (the other diapered guy, the one from mars)(the last boss) i dont even know what tha hell he is, anyways, and i was killing him, and then he did some random Sh1t that left me in danger, and then he jump back(he was almost dead) so i did a hadoken and killed him, and he started falling down in a slow motion, well that guy some how pulled a phoenixdown out of his... well diaper, and came back to life, not half energy, but the whole bar filled up, he was brand new, then he did a fireball and killed me, and the computer had the balls to say: YOU LOSE "PERFECT", Perfect???????? wtf? i just killed that guy, if he is so cheap to come back to life and kill me, at least say: YOU LOSE, but dont dont say he kiled me PERFECT. Jesus christ this game is so weird, thats my opinion, i know some people like it, im sure that i dont. but thats my opinion.

[Nokato]

^Errr, I found it very difficult to understand the majority of your post.

The part I could understand is that you don't know how to deal with Urien's Aegis unblockable...which is something that has more to do with the player than the game itself.

Gill is a boss character. Boss characters are usually cheap. Gill really isn't that hard to beat if you play Arcade Mode..you simply...don't let him do ressurrection completely.

I can understand if you don't like the game, to each his own I guess...

As someone mentioned earlier, learning to block will probably help you out alot.

[Jimmy Bones]

Yeah, when u try blocking the diapered guy(the mexican one) he just start doing some random overheads and sweeps, and his super gets full again and guess what?? electric barrier again, then tackle, then the same thing again, changing subjet the other day i was playing agains the two colored guy (the other diapered guy, the one from mars)(the last boss) i dont even know what tha hell he is, anyways, and i was killing him, and then he did some random Sh1t that left me in danger, and then he jump back(he was almost dead) so i did a hadoken and killed him, and he started falling down in a slow motion, well that guy some how pulled a phoenixdown out of his... well diaper, and came back to life, not half energy, but the whole bar filled up, he was brand new, then he did a fireball and killed me, and the computer had the balls to say: YOU LOSE "PERFECT", Perfect???????? wtf? i just killed that guy, if he is so cheap to come back to life and kill me, at least say: YOU LOSE, but dont dont say he kiled me PERFECT. Jesus christ this game is so weird, thats my opinion, i know some people like it, im sure that i dont. but thats my opinion.

That's how it is man, if u can beat him once, why not beat him twice a round
i did it a lot of times. He's the boss... anything can happen

[ShinjiGohan]

EX chars man lol

but of the choices provided, SF2.

[oukamikenji]

I personally like 3s better.... while no doubt the ST characters are great, I feel that after the number of times they have appeared and been rehashed, they've gotten kind of bland (that goes for the appearance of shotos, chun, etc in 3s, too).
I just feel like some of the SFIII cast is very original and have staying power, although it might also be the fact that the game was just very well presented in my opinion. My points of reference: Makoto, Yang, Yun, Urien, Necro, Oro. I just like the designs.

Also, for those who can't tell, ETOTHENG is a troll, feel free to iggy him.

[Nokato]

ARIKA, was a subsidiary that produced the EX series, was distributed by Capcom. Albeit that, just for sake's sake-- I will say that I enjoyed the character designs CRMK(bengus) provided for that game. It was if there was a mixture of the old iconic sensibility of SF2 character but still fresh and new. They were very SF2, yet not.

I wish that game was hand-drawn at times.

[Jimmy Bones]

ARIKA, was a subsidiary that produced the EX series, was distributed by Capcom.

oh aight. thks.

[ETOTHENG]

I personally like 3s better.... while no doubt the ST characters are great, I feel that after the number of times they have appeared and been rehashed, they've gotten kind of bland (that goes for the appearance of shotos, chun, etc in 3s, too).
I just feel like some of the SFIII cast is very original and have staying power, although it might also be the fact that the game was just very well presented in my opinion. My points of reference: Makoto, Yang, Yun, Urien, Necro, Oro. I just like the designs.

Also, for those who can't tell, ETOTHENG is a troll, feel free to iggy him.
What? im a troll because i dont like 3rd Strike?? thats an opinion, i know for sure that MY CE and ST ZANGIEF is a troll and a Very Angry Troll fell free to iggy him. lol.

[Cascade]

I would say Alpha 3 since it's combined with ST characters also. EX characters second, well I only favor Kairi and Hokuto. The only 3s character I played with besides Ryu was Alex.

[The Switcher]

In my experience, Alpha 3 has the highest number of useless characters no one plays as.

Really, Alex, Makoto and Elena are pretty much the only ones that would fit in IV.

[B.L. Pancho]

I liked the rosters for SFII and SFIII equally actually, SFII had more legendary characters but SFIII had more cutting edge character designs which I really appreciated. Having said that I didn't vote for option no.4 simply because it doesn't accurately represent what I feel, seeing as I don't dislike any of the characters from either series.

[Crab_Lips]

I had an instant positive reaction to the characters in 3rd Strike. I've been playing since SF1, and by the time SF2 came around, I liked the game, but I really only liked Zangief in WW. I moved onto Dhalsim in CE, but by the time Turbo came around, I was more or less through with the game. I never really appreciated Super or Super Turbo, as I always felt T.Hawk, Cammy, Fei Long and DeeJay weren't the strongest characters, IMO. I was also so over the original SF 2 characters.

I got into Alpha because of the re-imagined character design, and took an instant liking to Birdie, Rose, Sodom, and Adon, but never really finding my "team" of guys. Rolento was my favorite in Alpha 2. Strangely enough, when Alpha 3 came around, I really got back into T.Hawk, mainly because I thought he looked better with the new art.

SFIII had Necro, which is one of my favorite designs ever. When those sketches were released before SF3 hit, I was blown away by the designs. Especially Oro. By the time SF3:3S hit, I found I had 3 characters I loved in one game. Hugo, Q, and Necro. The detail in animation and innovative designs stand out the most for me in 3rd Strike. That, coupled with the soundtrack (that I still play to this day) and presentation made 3rd Strike my favorite.

[Dander]

I had an instant positive reaction to the characters in 3rd Strike. I've been playing since SF1, and by the time SF2 came around, I liked the game, but I really only liked Zangief in WW. I moved onto Dhalsim in CE, but by the time Turbo came around, I was more or less through with the game. I never really appreciated Super or Super Turbo, as I always felt T.Hawk, Cammy, Fei Long and DeeJay weren't the strongest characters, IMO. I was also so over the original SF 2 characters.

I got into Alpha because of the re-imagined character design, and took an instant liking to Birdie, Rose, Sodom, and Adon, but never really finding my "team" of guys. Rolento was my favorite in Alpha 2. Strangely enough, when Alpha 3 came around, I really got back into T.Hawk, mainly because I thought he looked better with the new art.

SFIII had Necro, which is one of my favorite designs ever. When those sketches were released before SF3 hit, I was blown away by the designs. Especially Oro. By the time SF3:3S hit, I found I had 3 characters I loved in one game. Hugo, Q, and Necro. The detail in animation and innovative designs stand out the most for me in 3rd Strike. That, coupled with the soundtrack (that I still play to this day) and presentation made 3rd Strike my favorite.


totally agree. Everyone saying that hugo was a "bland" design was waaaay off or color blind. There was so much attention to detail in Hugo's wardrobe AND room.

My guess is they're really basing his "bland"ness on the fact that they didn't provide much story for him to run around in, and to those I just have to ask, if you have hundreds of thousands of books with way more enticing a story, why would you look for something so trivial in a fighting game? That's just me though, I know a lot of otaku babies on these boards gotta have that story. but anyway back to subject.

Some characters, although they looked amazing, definitely did not fit well in the world of street fighter 3.

Urien has never fit in with me, but I do appreciate him as a character through gameplay. Gill is just stupid design. twelve is bad design. Sean is the Dan of the game, so he makes sense, Makoto does not really fit the game, but she's a great character, and Elena doesn't fit the series very well. I would brave dance all over that though.

i wrote this post in a hurry cause im at work posting from the only computer that everyone in the art room can get a look at.

[papito]

i like them all...

but there's just something about the 3s charachters that appeal to me more... but even so... i have about 2 favorites in each series... elena and necro - cammy and balrog - sakura and gen

ryu and chun also, but they're in all series, so i don't count them in =) huheuehuehue

[CaliLifeStyle]

I'll take ST. But Gill was a badass boss. My favorite boss ever in a fighting game. A Street Fighter 2 vs. Street Fighter 3 game would be killer.

[Crab_Lips]

Haha, I thought I was the only one who actually liked Gill. Sure, he looks ridiculous, but that's sort of what made him appealing IMO. A half blue/half red dude with long flowing blonde hair, in his thong panties making it rain fire and ice? WOW.

[Gutter Trash]

I voted for the SF2 choice, (including 4 Bosses and 4 New Challengers) and here is why:

The SF2 cast are mostly composed of competitors from various fighting styles, making them live up the the moniker ''STREET FIGHTER''. It's nothing to do with storylines, I'm talking about design and visuals.

Even the more flamboyant SF2 characters have a fighting style (even some are made up like Spanish-Ninja) but are still credible as compitors fighting in the arena (caged arena) for a tourny.

As for SF3, half the roster does not live up the the moniker: '' Street Fighter'' weather you like the designs or not.

The fighter types likes Dudley, Makoto, Elena ect do fight as Street Fighters and are Street Fighers with their own credible figthing styles.
But the rest of the cast is way too alterentative, saying alternative in a politically correct way to not say freak show.

Gill alone is enough to declare thumbs down to impune the innocent.

As for Alpha, they went down the silippery slope of adding tons of clones and joke characters. That I did not accept.
The Street Fighter 1 characters into Alpha are awesome. Gen, Adon, Birdie were excellent.
But Dan, Sakura, Evil Ryu, Juni, Juli, R.Mika, Cody were tottaly awefull and jokes

[Crab_Lips]

I don't know, Alex seems like a "street fighter" to me. Same with Hugo, given his design is brought over from Final Fight--a game where everyone is fighting in the streets.

What about Sean? I know he's in a gi and all, but his style is a rough-and-tumble tweak on the shotokan that Ken and Ryu practice. And I know it may be a stretch, but Q looks like a guy you'd see walking down the street.

Necro and Remy look like guys you'd see in a club, which gives their designs a bit more "street cred" for me.

I really don't think the SF3 had any more "freaks" than SF2 or Alpha. Where we had Dhalsim, we have Necro. Where there's Blanka, there's Twelve--a stretch, but both are kind of like "monsters."

[AlphaDragoon02]

I liked characters from each. Funny thing is, I actually hate some of the old characters. I can't fucking stand lame-ass Chun Li, and I hate Balrog. On the other hand, I liked (besides the obvious Ryu and Ken) Dhalsim and Honda.

In Alpha I liked Cammy, Guy, Karin, Charlie and Gen (I would like Cody if he was OG Final Fight and not lame prisoner Cody), and in 3S I liked Alex, Makoto, Yun, Yang, Ibuki, Dudley and Remy.

[Jimmy Bones]

And I know it may be a stretch, but Q looks like a guy you'd see walking down the street.

Uhhh :confused:

Q doesnt look like a street fighter, some robot with a detective suit, lookin like inspector Gadget but 7 feet tall....

[Crab_Lips]

His fighting style definitely feels pretty 'street' IMO. But maybe that's just me. I love when people say he's "Inspector Gadget." I alway saw a Dick Tracy thing going on, but maybe that's just my age showing.

[Nokato]

If all the fighters looked like "typical" fighters...wouldn't that be a bit boring after a while?

[clue2025]

I like the Street fighter 2 serie characters best, the other character from Street Fighter 3 are jokes, seriously, From Zangief to Hugo?? come on, like somebody said, from Guile, Charlie to Remy? From Shotos to.......well shotos, i love chun li, i cant say nothing about her. and the most i hate about SF3s is this guy called Urien or something like that (yeah, the guy that is wearing diapers) this guy does a kind of electric shield in frot of you that you cant do nothing seriusly, and im not even going to talk about his brother, thats the cheapest boss ever. i try to play that game the other day and i regret it, Street Fighter 2 hands down.

You get pissed about Aegis but not about some hadou spamming and SRK when you jump? Theres ways around the aegis just like you can find ways around the boring strategy of hadou-spam. But just like I won't "waste my time" figuring out how to get past it, you wont waste yours figuring out how to handle aegis.

Yeah, when u try blocking the diapered guy(the mexican one) he just start doing some random overheads and sweeps, and his super gets full again and guess what?? electric barrier again, then tackle, then the same thing again, changing subjet the other day i was playing agains the two colored guy (the other diapered guy, the one from mars)(the last boss) i dont even know what tha hell he is, anyways, and i was killing him, and then he did some random Sh1t that left me in danger, and then he jump back(he was almost dead) so i did a hadoken and killed him, and he started falling down in a slow motion, well that guy some how pulled a phoenixdown out of his... well diaper, and came back to life, not half energy, but the whole bar filled up, he was brand new, then he did a fireball and killed me, and the computer had the balls to say: YOU LOSE "PERFECT", Perfect???????? wtf? i just killed that guy, if he is so cheap to come back to life and kill me, at least say: YOU LOSE, but dont dont say he kiled me PERFECT. Jesus christ this game is so weird, thats my opinion, i know some people like it, im sure that i dont. but thats my opinion.

You haven't played it enough obviously. There's ways around this also. I've done it tons of times and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I'm nowhere near as skilled as most of the people on here but I can still beat his ass even when he tries to resurrect. Play it more and use your head you'll figure it out.

Block is your friend. :smile:

So is parry :smile:

Back to the original point. I liked Guy from FF and Alpha series. I liked most of 3S's roster. I can honestly do without Boxer, Claw, or Dic. They were just boring to me. Oh and claw as annoying to top that. Honda was fun. Dhalsim was alright. Every game had its good and bad for me. I'm glad that Chun, Ryu, and Ken made it back into the game. I've always liked Yun and Yang (I forget where I first used them but it wasn't in 3s) And I would gladly take Alex and Hugo over Gief. Blanka I kinda miss, but I don't miss them, or the gameplay enough to play ST regularly.

I still play Alpha cause Guy is that shit.

For me:
dudley > boxer
Hugo/Alex > Gief
Elena > Cammy
Sim > Necro
Yun/Yang > Fei Long
Guy > Ibuki
Ryu > Ken
Ryu/Ken/Sakura > Sean but he is fun to play despite how crappy he is
Bring Makoto back
Q was cool and does mad damage plus his parry is funny as hell.

I hate Guile/Charlie/Remy in any way shape or form that includes the transexual from KOF

[Crab_Lips]

If all the fighters looked like "typical" fighters...wouldn't that be a bit boring after a while?

Absolutely. That's what I really dug about a 140 year old man with his arm tied behind his back. ;)

[Hatred Edge]

You get pissed about Aegis but not about some hadou spamming and SRK when you jump? Theres ways around the aegis just like you can find ways around the boring strategy of hadou-spam. But just like I won't "waste my time" figuring out how to get past it, you wont waste yours figuring out how to handle aegis.


Don't bother asking about it either. Apparently you're a "scrub" if you try to understand things in SF. Also if you do expect of a bunch of ignorant fucks (who should have been killed as soon they were born) to whine and bitch and neg you.

In short don't ever expect a valid, educational answer.

[Gutter Trash]

If all the fighters looked like "typical" fighters...wouldn't that be a bit boring after a while?

it does not mean the character needs to be generic looking or average looking.

A solid character designs like Sagat, Adon, Gen, Dudley are great character designs and all Street Fighters.

when I see Oro pull of his Darkstalker shit, I just want to throw the tv out the window

[Jimmy Bones]

Absolutely. That's what I really dug about a 140 year old man with his arm tied behind his back. ;)

Who's able jump high to cacth his sleepin bag, and sleepin immediately...:rofl:

[clue2025]

Don't bother asking about it either. Apparently you're a "scrub" if you try to understand things in SF. Also if you do expect of a bunch of ignorant fucks (who should have been killed as soon they were born) to whine and bitch and neg you.

In short don't ever expect a valid, educational answer.

Thats because apparently if you're not J. Wong, John Choi, Ed Ma, Daigo, or Nuki you're a scrub. Because they know everything about SF. In every way shape or form. and they're the ONLY ones that do. It seems like unless you're on that level of play, you get no respect. But whatever, to each their own.

Edit: To me, Gill is NOT the hardest person to beat in arcade mode. I spend more continues fighting Gouki for whatever reason because they make him beasty in every game he's in. But thats why we pick to fight him, because its a challenge.

[Gutter Trash]

the snot ball, the Level 3 Sbot Ball, the Tengu Stone... that is too freaky and weird, it's unconventional, alternative and just plain bizarre.

[Parkreiner]

the snot ball, the Level 3 Sbot Ball, the Tengu Stone... that is too freaky and weird, it's unconventional, alternative and just plain bizarre.

Bizarre and unconventional? You mean, like a sumo wrestler who becomes a human torpedo and a hulk-wannabe who shoots electricity out his ass?

[*Onslaught*]

SF2 > the rest.

[clue2025]

the snot ball, the Level 3 Sbot Ball, the Tengu Stone... that is too freaky and weird, it's unconventional, alternative and just plain bizarre.

I agree with this. It is goofy as hell. I honestly expect to summon a washing machine one of the times doing EX Tengu stone. But I think it fits. He's an old man (old men have a trend of being off beat. Master Roshi?) and he's reached Nirvana in his meditation and being a hermit. Plus, it fits the universe of Gill, Twelve, Q, and Necro. Think about the time progression. A lot has changed since 1992. We have flat screens and digital everything, tons of new and strange things either made or discovered. Why not have strange and new things in a game that is set further ahead in time?

[Crab_Lips]

It's funny that some people think "DarkStalkers" when they see Oro. Is it the hard-color outline? I always thought Twelve screamed DarkStalkers, as far as his animation goes.

[Ryu1999]

In my experience, Alpha 3 has the highest number of useless characters no one plays as.



wat

Every character in a3 has VC bs, which is whats so great. The only "useless" characters are probably Adon and Honda . Even Dan/ R. Mika have some tricks.

[Hatred Edge]

It's funny that some people think "DarkStalkers" when they see Oro. Is it the hard-color outline? I always thought Twelve screamed DarkStalkers, as far as his animation goes.
Its cuz he looks weird. That's all. For the record Sodom looks like somethng out of darkstalkers too.

[Nokato]

Wow, Sodom looking like something from Darkstalkers...people have some very interesting POV's on how they recieve character designs.

To me he looks nothing like something from Darkstalkers. If anything Bishamon is a Darkstalkers-esque homage to Sodom from Final Fight. Its really strange how even though people deny it--it seems like people here really just want very bland typical, "logical" characters which to me would get very boring after a while. But that's just me.

Interesting to see the various reactions to particular characters.

[Gutter Trash]

Sumo Torpedos's, Shoryukens, Beast Roll are all physicall attacks.

SF2 always had bare bones special moves.... yah they defy gravity but they do not Summon a Reflective Mirror (Agis Reflector) that stands in the middle of the stage like WTF a floating rectangle

[Parkreiner]

Sumo Torpedos's, Shoryukens, Beast Roll are all physicall attacks.

SF2 always had bare bones special moves.... yah they defy gravity but they do not Summon a Reflective Mirror (Agis Reflector) that stands in the middle of the stage like WTF a floating rectangle

And does that make them any less stranger? No.

[Jimmy Bones]

Sumo Torpedos's, Shoryukens, Beast Roll are all physicall attacks.

SF2 always had bare bones special moves.... yah they defy gravity but they do not Summon a Reflective Mirror (Agis Reflector) that stands in the middle of the stage like WTF a floating rectangle

Or Like Gill flyin is the sky and throwin rainbows at ya :rofl:

[CarreauOverkill]

Clotheslining > faggot spin (monster vs. punch lariat)

[Kataklysmic]

I like/dislike all the rosters equally. 3S's designs are horrible (save Makoto), I don't care about T.Hawk, Fei-Long and Dee Jay, and I don't care about Eagle, Adon and Ingrid.

[R V Greif]

SF2 always had bare bones special moves.... yah they defy gravity but they do not Summon a Reflective Mirror (Agis Reflector) that stands in the middle of the stage like WTF a floating rectangle

Yeah, and a materialization of Ki (Hadouken) is something as plausible as hell...

And I agree with Nokato's opinion concernings actual POV's on charactes. Apparently, the archetypical SF fan likes them bland and old. Exactly the way I don't want them to be designed.
Hugo is an excellent design all around. He's funny, yet intimidant with his colossal psysique and his brutal tecniques, and he doesn't even need a complex or elaborated background, because he already haves one. And his animations outclass Yun and Yang's ones.
Q is probably the most violent character I've ever seen, and his throw, along with his SAII, confirms the fact.
Makoto is another martial artist. But she haves an original personality, doesn't dress exactly as Ryu would (the gi isn't ripped), and her style is traditional karate. Actually, I like her more than the shotos.
I could describe everyone excepting Urien, Ken and Ryu. But i can I sum it up:
They're no freakshow characters! In fact, they resemble the SFII cast in one fundamental aspect: They're essentially simple. Look at Hugo, for example. He doesn't have an ellaborated combat suit or anything. He merely uses a shirt, a leather pant and a chain attached to it. And the same goes for Elena, Makoto or Alex.
And even if they're freakshows indeed, what's so wrong about that? Games must evolve, both technically and aestetically.

[Imitrex]

SF2 for me, easily. I could not stand the change in art work with the introduction of the Alpha series. Not a fan of characters like Q, Twelve, Gill etc, and absolutely hated the Darkstalkers combo mechanic introduced from the Alpha series and on.

[Crab_Lips]

Yeah, and a materialization of Ki (Hadouken) is something as plausible as hell...

And I agree with Nokato's opinion concernings actual POV's on charactes. Apparently, the archetypical SF fan likes them bland and old. Exactly the way I don't want them to be designed.
Hugo is an excellent design all around. He's funny, yet intimidant with his colossal psysique and his brutal tecniques, and he doesn't even need a complex or elaborated background, because he already haves one. And his animations outclass Yun and Yang's ones.
Q is probably the most violent character I've ever seen, and his throw, along with his SAII, confirms the fact.
Makoto is another martial artist. But she haves an original personality, doesn't dress exactly as Ryu would (the gi isn't ripped), and her style is traditional karate. Actually, I like her more than the shotos.
I could describe everyone excepting Urien, Ken and Ryu. But i can I sum it up:
They're no freakshow characters! In fact, they resemble the SFII cast in one fundamental aspect: They're essentially simple. Look at Hugo, for example. He doesn't have an ellaborated combat suit or anything. He merely uses a shirt, a leather pant and a chain attached to it. And the same goes for Elena, Makoto or Alex.
And even if they're freakshows indeed, what's so wrong about that? Games must evolve, both technically and aestetically.

Co-signed! :woot:

[clue2025]

Q is probably the most violent character I've ever seen, and his throw, along with his SAII, confirms the fact.


I agree completely
We call Q's SAII the Human Extinction attack hahaha its so fun when you pull off stuff because just playing him makes you feel like "Let me get a hold of your ass and we'll see whats up"

[The_Shakunetsu]

I like street fighter 2 more than Street fighter 3 characters but iwish capcom could make future Sf installement/sequel have both Sf2 and Sf3.

[-Beat-]

In my experience, Alpha 3 has the highest number of useless characters no one plays as.

Really, Alex, Makoto and Elena are pretty much the only ones that would fit in IV.
Add Yun and Yang at that list is complete to me, although it is really big, and it would take long for them to make a game with all of those characters plus more from ST. A lot of the characters in SFZ3 were ignored because people were stuck to the ST cast. SFIII did a good job of making the players use new characters with newer playing styles.

My favorite 3s characters are Yun, Yang, Urien, Makoto, Alex, and Chun (I also like Ryu and Ken the most in SFIII, but they are in all of the games..) I liked Guy, Fei Long, and Gouki in SFZ3. In ST, I use Sagat and Ryu. 3s has most of my favorite characters.

[DevilJin 01]

Yeah, when u try blocking the diapered guy(the mexican one) he just start doing some random overheads and sweeps, and his super gets full again and guess what?? electric barrier again, then tackle, then the same thing again, changing subjet the other day i was playing agains the two colored guy (the other diapered guy, the one from mars)(the last boss) i dont even know what tha hell he is, anyways, and i was killing him, and then he did some random Sh1t that left me in danger, and then he jump back(he was almost dead) so i did a hadoken and killed him, and he started falling down in a slow motion, well that guy some how pulled a phoenixdown out of his... well diaper, and came back to life, not half energy, but the whole bar filled up, he was brand new, then he did a fireball and killed me, and the computer had the balls to say: YOU LOSE "PERFECT", Perfect???????? wtf? i just killed that guy, if he is so cheap to come back to life and kill me, at least say: YOU LOSE, but dont dont say he kiled me PERFECT. Jesus christ this game is so weird, thats my opinion, i know some people like it, im sure that i dont. but thats my opinion.

Funniest description of a fighting game that I've read in a long time. Wow...it's 1999 all over again.

[clue2025]

Add Yun and Yang at that list is complete to me, although it is really big, and it would take long for them to make a game with all of those characters plus more from ST. A lot of the characters in SFZ3 were ignored because people were stuck to the ST cast. SFIII did a good job of making the players use new characters with newer playing styles.

My favorite 3s characters are Yun, Yang, Urien, Makoto, Alex, and Chun (I also like Ryu and Ken the most in SFIII, but they are in all of the games..) I liked Guy, Fei Long, and Gouki in SFZ3. In ST, I use Sagat and Ryu. 3s has most of my favorite characters.

It FORCED them to use new characters. Forced being the key word. They didn't like that. And the fact that another very effective defensive technique was added. And that it was faster and smoother. I don't know. I think the gameplay in 3s was more streamlined and motivating, exciting than ST. So were the characters.

I feel like this is a political argument between Republicans and Democrats, the Republicans being ST players since they are so conservative on their old ST ways :rolleyes:

When i first picked up 3s, I didn't play Ken and Ryu. I played Chun, but that was after I played with Yang for the longest time. Then Elena. Then Hugo. Then Alex. Then Gouki. Yeah...took me that long to actually want to play an original character. I was disappointed slightly when I saw that Sean had no hadou. But I was also kind of glad.

[SweetJohnnyV]

Another character thread? :confused:

[DevilJin 01]

^^^^ Tell me about it. So GameFAQsish.

[ArcadeFire]

Another character thread? :confused:

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[Kataklysmic]

Well, Republicans don't look at things objectively, so...

It FORCED them to use new characters. Forced being the key word. They didn't like that. And the fact that another very effective defensive technique was added. And that it was faster and smoother. I don't know. I think the gameplay in 3s was more streamlined and motivating, exciting than ST. So were the characters.

I feel like this is a political argument between Republicans and Democrats, the Republicans being 3S players since they are so conservative on their 3S ways :rolleyes:


... fixed.

[DeathReaper47]

Although I like a lot of the characters in 3S, I'm not a big fan of Urien/Gill/Necro/Twelve/Remy/etc.

ST has Ryu/Ken/Guile/M.Bision/Vega/Sagat...those are all my favorite Street Fighters(excluding Dan "Da Man" Hibiki)

[clue2025]

I'm catching more heat for wanting a good mix or completely new characters from a lot of ST players more than 3S players. I also was bashed because I don't think this game will be good with the complete roster of ST characters. I play 3s more so and more competitively than ST, but I didn't cry for a parry when I heard they took it out, I just wanted a different defense strategy so it doesnt turn into ST again. But fine, if you want to look at it that way, then we're both super conservative about how this game should be. ST players hate 3S, and 3S players enjoyed the change and never went back, thats it. There are some in the middle, I enjoy ST's music and some of the characters, just like I enjoy some of the music and the characters from 3s, I prefer 3s's mechanics more. But I don't want to see ALL of everyone from one or the other in the new game. Keyword being NEW.

[-Beat-]

It FORCED them to use new characters. Forced being the key word. They didn't like that. And the fact that another very effective defensive technique was added. And that it was faster and smoother. I don't know. I think the gameplay in 3s was more streamlined and motivating, exciting than ST. So were the characters.

I feel like this is a political argument between Republicans and Democrats, the Republicans being ST players since they are so conservative on their old ST ways :rolleyes:

When i first picked up 3s, I didn't play Ken and Ryu. I played Chun, but that was after I played with Yang for the longest time. Then Alex. Then Gouki. Yeah...took me that long to actually want to play an original character.
Yeah, I remember playing Second Impact when it was new. It was the first SFIII I played. I selected Yang the first time, and then Dudley the second time.
I agree about the politics statement. SFIII players like the upgrades to the gameplay and characters, and ST purists want more of the same.

I saw you discussing parries in another thread and I wanted to add to it: I was playing against my brother in 3s after I was so used to jump-ins, but he parried them all of the time with Chun and linked lots of devastating combos, and that really motivated me to get a better strategy. When I learned how to parry, it was great playing my friend who was new to 3s. He thought he could shoryuken every time I jumped in, but I parried it and hit him out of his shoryuken; he also had to think more when he played. So SFIII has really added a lot to the gameplay.

The best thing for Capcom to do with the roster would be to add a mix of ST, 3s, and Alpha.

[Kataklysmic]

I'm catching more heat for wanting a good mix or completely new characters from a lot of ST players more than 3S players. I also was bashed because I don't think this game will be good with the complete roster of ST characters. I play 3s more so and more competitively than ST, but I didn't cry for a parry when I heard they took it out, I just wanted a different defense strategy so it doesnt turn into ST again. But fine, if you want to look at it that way, then we're both super conservative about how this game should be. ST players hate 3S, and 3S players enjoyed the change and never went back, thats it. There are some in the middle, I enjoy ST's music and some of the characters, just like I enjoy some of the music and the characters from 3s, I prefer 3s's mechanics more. But I don't want to see ALL of everyone from one or the other in the new game. Keyword being NEW.

Nobody's against having new characters. SF4's not finished so we might see more added. And besides, it already HAS a different defense strategy. Stop trying to derail the thread.

[Hatred Edge]

I saw you discussing parries in another thread and I wanted to add to it: I was playing against my brother in 3s after I was so used to jump-ins, but he parried them all of the time with Chun and linked lots of devastating combos, and that really motivated me to get a better strategy. When I learned how to parry, it was great playing my friend who was new to 3s. He thought he could shoryuken every time I jumped in, but I parried it and hit him out of his shoryuken; he also had to think more when he played. So SFIII has really added a lot to the gameplay.

You see this? This is what I feel is supposed to happened. If your SRK gets beaten you develop further in skill and strategy. You adapt and improve. Yet I was spit on for this. Shit like "It's called 'you're an idiot'." I truly believed that no one move should be absolute and if that move is beaten/hard to beat you work your way around it. In turn you become a better player. Yet for thinking like that I was called a scrub and accused of trying to judge people for "not liking the same game I liked" eventhough I don't play 3S. What did Ryu players do when their hadoukens were jumped over? They adapted.

I play Sol in GG. His Volcanic Viper has a 7F startup. That might be the fastest SRK in gaming history. Yet I don't depend on it as my main AA. I go more for his 5K. If my 5K or VV is blocked and I get punished the only thing I can do is try to get better. I get people not liking 3S or ST and I'm not saying you should/shouldn't but what I'm saying is that as a player one should always aim for becoming better. But apparently some of the older members here view that as wrong. I really believed that if one move fails you adapt. If not be defeated.

[clue2025]

Nobody's against having new characters. SF4's not finished so we might see more added. And besides, it already HAS a different defense strategy. Stop trying to derail the thread.

I'm not trying to de-rail it. I'm defending my comparison, which I had in there why I liked the characters I did anyways.

If you want, I'll state it again.

I Like:

Guy > Ibuki
Alex/Hugo > Gief
Dudley > Boxer
Elena > Cammy
Ryu/Ken/Sakura > Sean
I hate Remy/Charlie/Guile
Sagat > Adon
Q is good for if you feel like you want to rip someone in half
Dhalsim > Necro
Blanka > Twelve
Yun/Yang > Fei

[Saotome Kaneda]

trying to derail the thread? this thread had a point to begin with?