SFIV - PCB Set Preorder

[Rakukojin]

http://www.tops-game.jp/shinsaku.htm#sf_4

¥2,394,000 (~$23,456.60)
Doesn't include the cabinet from what I can see :looney:

[Henaki]

lol that better be a 4 player set

[crazydiamond]

So it was true! I heard from a guy who asked an arcade owner here (NZ) that it would be $50,000 a pop! I thought he must have heard wrong but $23,000 US would convert to about $50,000 after a $2000 (?) cabinet.

[SiLLiEMutAfuKA]

And is it also true that I heard you actually need to buy TWO in order to even have versus play?

[*Onslaught*]

Why the hell are these cabinets so damn expensive, lol? You would think they would try their best to lower costs and make it available in as many places as possible. . .

[crazydiamond]

They must really be relying on the Hype to pressure arcades to buy. Really though I imagine they are trying to make the bulk (90% ?) of their money from Asian countries.

I don't know anything about hardware or software but I'd imagine they are just charging for the license based on the hype.

But I'd like to know if anyone has an inside into how this type of thing is calculated.

[ha-dou-ken]

I can't afford that...:sad:

[ChromeX]

their expensive just cus they see how much money will be made on these games with time. the dude buyin them is supposed to make their money back in x amount of time then its all profit for them from there minus like repairs and such.

[Superking]

Why does it say SF4 is 4 players? :confused:

And it uses id cards a la VF/Tekken.

To the above poster, uh no, they are really price gouging here for SF4, Tekken 6 can be bought for A LOT less than that.

But then again Tekken 6 comes in different configurations for sale.

[Shotokan Symphony]

I wouldn't mind 4 head-to-head cabs, but that is a fucking ridiculous price.

[LWK]

Wow, so this is basically gonna ass rape fans who are gonna dig deep to play this game at local arcades. I really don't remember a time where a release was this sickly overpriced. Crazy shit.

[wakigatame]

Looks like I'm robbing a bank with a sack full of potatoes.

[Helter Skelter]

That price is broken.

[masher]

Quick some1 pick Ken and bust out his ultra on this shit! 70% off!

[statikeffeck]

Can we expect to play for $1 to $2 per game?

[Jimmy Bones]

23,307$US!!!!:amazed::amazed::amazed:
Goodness!!!

[Gwyrgyn Blood]

lol that better be a 4 player set

The set contains:

TYPEX2 PCB + Soft x4
100 sheets I.D.CARD FOR ST/F 4,
COMMUNICATION VS KIT x1
CONTROL PANEL KIT x4

Meaning it contains 4 TypeX2s and 4 copies of the game, as well as 4 control panels for the arcade machines.

I would expect the price of a single copy of the game to run around $6000.

And is it also true that I heard you actually need to buy TWO in order to even have versus play?

There's no reason hardware wise why you would have to but I guess it's possible Capcom could set up the software to be like that. I haven't heard anything one way or another about that though.

[TrueSephiroth]

At that range its going to be $2 dollars a play man...shit better be at least 3 rounds if it's like that...damn. The price is just ridiculous...:looney:

Are you just able to get a single copy? Or do you have to do the insane $23k+?

[Chachi]

You're probably more likely to see this on MTV Cribs than an arcade at this point...

[EveryFlowerFlow]

it can't be $23,000. at least not when it finally comes out. that's crazy

[two2tone]

First of all... just last month they said it was 60% complete... now thats bull... SECOND... because of that price... arcades are really going to be done for in the states... and that's JUST the pcb itself!!! think about the cab price in additional to that hefty price tag!!... HD screen... omfg... i can only pray for its dear life now...

[SaBrE]

theres no way a pcb can cost that much. with the 4 cabinet linked setup, yes, totally believable. the taito board itself sosts a very very small fraction of that cost alone. sounds more like poor translation or that site is bullshitting

[Shotokan Symphony]

A single PCB, as GB has already stated, probably won't run more than $6000, which is kinda par for the course, honestly.

[EndLeSS8]

That's REALLY expensive.

IIRC, my friend told me that a Ferrari 355 Challenge (Remember that Ferrari arcade game, with the 3 screens and a clutch? That one) was $30,000

$23K for SF4 is REALLY expensive, especially when you consider that the the board (TaitoX2, IIRC) is essentially a really powerful computer.

[inkblot]

Typical SRK response -- 10 posters making a snap judgment based on one number in a sea of Kanji, then 10 more posters not reading the posted translation in the middle of the thread before posting their own snap judgment.

$6000 for a PCB that's essentially a high end PC ain't cheap, but it's a reasonable price.

[Yurinka]

Typical SRK response -- 10 posters making a snap judgment based on one number in a sea of Kanji, then 10 more posters not reading the posted translation in the middle of the thread before posting their own snap judgment.

$6000 for a PCB that's essentially a high end PC ain't cheap, but it's a reasonable price.
Not only a high end pc. Also includes the cabinet and a beatiful HD display.

[pc1x1]

Even at 6k its pushing it. I can't imagine being successful at least I speak locally, theres no way an arcade can successfully invest that kind of money on market here where I live. Maybe just maybe Gameworks, but from what I hear even the Sawgrass Oasis Gameworks (which is the closest expensive side of town), wasn't doing to well. 6k is believable for a unit, but SF4, will only truly shine, at least in my area, once it goes to consoles. And with gas prices skyrocketing 107$ a barrel is just plain ridiculous, most people including Japanese, won't be able to travel far as often, and most likely will have less disposible income due to social economic instability.

[Rakukojin]

PCB
（Type-X２マザーボード ＋Type-X２ハードディスク
＋USBドングル＋専用コンパネキット 各４枚
＋IDカード100枚＋通信対戦キット）
My translation:

Type-X2 Motherboard
Type-X2 Hard Drive
USB Dongle
4 Dedicated Control Panels
100 ID Cards
Communication Match Kit

I don't see where it says you get 4 PCBs. The price isn't final yet though, it's still tentative.

[ringopan]

"control panel" could possbly imply the cabinet (control interface + hd display). if that is the case, then ~$6000 sounds far more reasonable.

[VEGA_OMEGA]

Oof.. I'm not even going to try on this one.

[Rakukojin]

"control panel" could possbly imply the cabinet (control interface + hd display). if that is the case, then ~$6000 sounds far more reasonable.
Well for comparison purposes I was reading their Tekken 6 product information and it says:

ＤＸセット ¥4,704,000
新筐体×４台， ライブモニター×１台
ＰＣＢ×２枚 ， ＩＣカード×２００枚

ＳＤセット ¥1,845,900
新筐体×２台 ，ＰＣＢ×１枚 ， ＩＣカード×１００枚

ＰＣＢセット ¥627,900
ネットシティ専用パネル×２枚 ，ＰＣＢ×１枚
メンテナンス扉×1枚 , ＩＣカード×１００枚

DX Set ¥4,704,000
4 New Cabinets
1 Live Monitor
2 PCB
200 IC Cards

SD Set ¥1,845,900
2 New Cabinets
1 PCB
100 IC Cards

PCB Set ¥627,900
2 Net City Dedicated Control Panels
1 PCB
1 Maintenance Door
100 IC Cards


Tekken 6 DX and SD sets include the cabinets while the Tekken 6 PCB set only includes Net City control panels.

[Starcade RIP]

百人看不懂。

imo.

[ringopan]

oh okay then, seems like it wont include the cabinets : (

fyi, my campus arcade bought house of the dead 4 for 30,000, and made their money back in less than a month - they also plan to get sf4 and tekken 6. expensive arcade hardware is how capcom makes money, and it really isnt difficult for a busy arcade to start turning profit on a machine relatively quickly. of course the concept of a "busy arcade" is pretty rare in most places...

[Pablo_the_Mex]

Damn, as if arcades needed another reason to never buy new games. I guess this means we will only see around 3 machines in the states.

[darkimmunity]

Super Pedo Bear!

[Gwyrgyn Blood]

I got that info from a different site so I can't guarantee it's correct. However, just looking at the price, it's most likely to either come with 4x copies of the game, or the game plus a 4 person cab (IE one with 4 screens and panels). It's obviously not just the game for that price.

Not really sure how the cabs and TypeX are designed to work linked, if someone knows that might help.

[two2tone]

Damn, as if arcades needed another reason to never buy new games. I guess this means we will only see around 3 machines in the states.

i laugh so hard it's not even funny :rofl: ... 3 machines... hahaha 1 at bill gates' house... 1 at donald trumps'... and 1 @ mark cuban's house lol

[Superking]

That's REALLY expensive.

IIRC, my friend told me that a Ferrari 355 Challenge (Remember that Ferrari arcade game, with the 3 screens and a clutch? That one) was $30,000

$23K for SF4 is REALLY expensive, especially when you consider that the the board (TaitoX2, IIRC) is essentially a really powerful computer.

lol more like mid-range computer.

[AmbiguousCrosup]

Any other Cab owners wanna get in on this action? at 6k a pop it definately sounds reasonable. Especially if you split the shipping cost four ways.

[AzN_Skater]

Any other Cab owners wanna get in on this action? at 6k a pop it definately sounds reasonable. Especially if you split the shipping cost four ways.

I'm interested, but any confirmation that you need at least 2 cabs to play VS?

[Gwyrgyn Blood]

Here's the word from the source itself:

THANK YOU FOR INQUIRY.
WE OFFER ONLY PCB SET.
WE CANNOT OFFER THE STRRET FIGHTER IV KIT WITH CABINET.


"STREET FIGHTER IV" (PCB SET)

UNIT PRICE : JPY2,280,000
MANUFACTURER : CAPCOM
GENRE : 3D VS FIGHTING
OPERATION : 1 LEVER & 6 BUTTONS
PLAYERS : 1-4 PLAYERS
ADVANCED ORDER: BY MAR.14, 2008
RELEASE DATE : SCHEDULED ON AUG.20, 2008
PCB USED : TYPE-X2
PRODUCT FORM : PCB SET
(HDD+TYPE-X2 x4, ID CARD x100,
PANEL KIT x4 & VS COMMUNICATION KIT x1)

So, no cabinet, but comes with 4 copies of the game.

[DreamTR]

I'm down to join up with someone to get a board

[Roshihikari]

Typical SRK response -- 10 posters making a snap judgment based on one number in a sea of Kanji, then 10 more posters not reading the posted translation in the middle of the thread before posting their own snap judgment.

$6000 for a PCB that's essentially a high end PC ain't cheap, but it's a reasonable price.

That's right. Capcom need to at least make money on their production costs, and make a little bit of profit. And also make enough profit to pay for the development.
The arcades in the US are probably too quiet to pay for that much, but that price may be for the Asian countries. Imagine 500 Street Fighter fans going to an arcade to play SFIV. Each pay (US dollars) $1 for 2 credits or something, that earns the arcade $500 already. Thats $500 of the $6000 paid for.
Then those people come back to play more, they play 12 times each, and thats $6000 paid for. Of course the initial hype will bring a lot of players to play, and then over time, the machine will start earning money.

[DevilJin 01]

I think I'm gonna wait for the 360 release.

[ringopan]

im gonna buy a cabinet o' dat 3rd!

edit: 3rd strike that is. i also would wait for the 3rd iteration of SF4 before I ever buy a cabinet of it.

[Superking]

I'm interested, but any confirmation that you need at least 2 cabs to play VS?

The stats for the set pretty much indicate it.

4 PCBs = 4 Players

If you could play 2p on 1 pcb, then that would just be simple math, which results to 8 players.

Reno posted at some other board that at AOU it was said that SF4 uses a LAN matchmaking system with the 4 cabinets or something.

I think that's overdoing it especially at an arcade since you know, your opponent is just in front of you or beside you. :confused: :looney:

[Roshihikari]

im gonna buy a cabinet o' dat 3rd!

edit: 3rd strike that is. i also would wait for the 3rd iteration of SF4 before I ever buy a cabinet of it.

How much is a SFIII:3S cabinet?

[ringopan]

How much is a SFIII:3S cabinet?

well i havent looked into it too much, so maybe someone else can answer. last time i checked, i saw sit down Astro City cabs going for about 700 (no shipping), and a cps3 kit + 3s cartridge (no cd) for like 300-ish.

[Gwyrgyn Blood]

That sounds about right ringo, but is 3S only a 15Khz game?

[DreamTR]

Street Fighter 4 kit Price: $24,500usd
http//www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/taito_type_x2/Street_Fighter_4_kit_7558.html

- Brand new
- Japanese version
- HDD+TYPE-X2 x 4pcs
- ID CARD x100pcs
- Panel kit x4pcs & 1pcs vs Communication kit
- Manual
- Release date around on 20 Aug 2008.


ANyone want to get in on a board with me? I only want one, so let me know since this is the only way they are selling it when it first comes out, UNLESS someone can hook me up with a way to get it cheaper for ONE piece and not FOUR.

[rastaman]

Street Fighter 4 kit Price: $24,500usd
http//www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/taito_type_x2/Street_Fighter_4_kit_7558.html

- Brand new
- Japanese version
- HDD+TYPE-X2 x 4pcs
- ID CARD x100pcs
- Panel kit x4pcs & 1pcs vs Communication kit
- Manual
- Release date around on 20 Aug 2008.


ANyone want to get in on a board with me? I only want one, so let me know since this is the only way they are selling it when it first comes out, UNLESS someone can hook me up with a way to get it cheaper for ONE piece and not FOUR.


i wouldnt mind i only want 1 too...but i think its better to just wait till the 1 sets come out and not rush it

[SteveTren]

After you drop over 6 large on the PCB kit where do you buy a High Def wide-screen cab? I don't think your gonna be able to just plug and play these into any jamma cab. Sounds insane to me!

[Gwyrgyn Blood]

You can plug it into any 31Khz Jamma cab if you have an adapter for the Type-X.

Also in theory you should be able to run it on any HDTV or PC monitor since I believe the Type-X has a VGA output. Don't hold me to that though.

[SteveTren]

You can plug it into any 31Khz Jamma cab if you have an adapter for the Type-X.

Also in theory you should be able to run it on any HDTV or PC monitor since I believe the Type-X has a VGA output. Don't hold me to that though.

How does that work? SF4 is wide-screen right? Will it squish the picture or put black bars on top / bottom? :confused:

[DreamTR]

i wouldnt mind i only want 1 too...but i think its better to just wait till the 1 sets come out and not rush it


And I guarantee they'll be sold out everywhere. You know how hard it is to find Tekken 6 under $6500 for the board right now? That game has been out for months.


SteveTren: Yeah, it should use any HDTV port, building a cabinet for this anyway.

[SteveTren]

And I guarantee they'll be sold out everywhere. You know how hard it is to find Tekken 6 under $6500 for the board right now? That game has been out for months.


SteveTren: Yeah, it should use any HDTV port, building a cabinet for this anyway.

Right.. I guess you could mod a cab and fit in a HD-LCD.

[Hellfromabove]

Pretty sure Family Fun Arcade is going to be getting the full 4 cab setup. Rumor is they will be open straight for 1 week after they get it. Praise the lord!!!

-Tha Hindu

[Gwyrgyn Blood]

How does that work? SF4 is wide-screen right? Will it squish the picture or put black bars on top / bottom? :confused:

Probably, yeah. Wouldn't be the best of setups but a 31Khz cab is dirt cheap in comparison to an HD cab (and much more likely for an arcade to have laying around).

[DreamTR]

So no one wants to go in?

[nothing]

Haha... at that price, the game's gonna $10's a credit.. I still wish we'd get one in San Antonio though

[dragonJAB]

I wounder if the arcade place by my house Planet Zero is getting it.

[UltraDavid]

I was upset when I found out how expensive this is, but I was very pleasantly surprised seeing the reactions to it from people who have experience or knowledge concerning buying arcade boards and cetera. I'd never even consider buying one in a million years, but as long as the arcades and some individuals are, I guess I'm happy.

[f_man]

so is svgl getting 8 or 12 of these?

[GouShRyuKen]

if it was 25 000 then we would have to pay 2 or 3 bucks to play one match ? Man...

[MadBooFace]

$6k? Copped.

[HeartNana]

oh okay then, seems like it wont include the cabinets : (

fyi, my campus arcade bought house of the dead 4 for 30,000, and made their money back in less than a month - they also plan to get sf4 and tekken 6. expensive arcade hardware is how capcom makes money, and it really isnt difficult for a busy arcade to start turning profit on a machine relatively quickly. of course the concept of a "busy arcade" is pretty rare in most places...
I find that highly unrealistic.

For 30,000 dollars, at (assumingly) $1 a credit, that means there have to be 30,000 credits over the course of a month.
So that means that there's 1000 per day, and if you divide that by 24, then that's 41 and a third credit every hour on average, including hours when the place is most likely closed or has nobody in it.

I don't doubt it'll make its money back, but in less than a month? Unless there's people with thousands of dollars losing REALLY quickly (as there has to be a credit going in on average every minute and 27 seconds, 24/7 for a month) then I find that highly unbelievable.

I don't mean to sound like a nerd, but that really caught my eye. :xeye:

[lexicon of rage]

I find that highly unrealistic.

For 30,000 dollars, at (assumingly) $1 a credit, that means there have to be 30,000 credits over the course of a month.
So that means that there's 1000 per day, and if you divide that by 24, then that's 41 and a third credit every hour on average, including hours when the place is most likely closed or has nobody in it.

I don't doubt it'll make its money back, but in less than a month? Unless there's people with thousands of dollars losing REALLY quickly (as there has to be a credit going in on average every minute and 27 seconds, 24/7 for a month) then I find that highly unbelievable.

I don't mean to sound like a nerd, but that really caught my eye. :xeye:



That made me laugh for absurd amounts of time.

[f_man]

I find that highly unrealistic.

For 30,000 dollars, at (assumingly) $1 a credit, that means there have to be 30,000 credits over the course of a month.
So that means that there's 1000 per day, and if you divide that by 24, then that's 41 and a third credit every hour on average, including hours when the place is most likely closed or has nobody in it.

I don't doubt it'll make its money back, but in less than a month? Unless there's people with thousands of dollars losing REALLY quickly (as there has to be a credit going in on average every minute and 27 seconds, 24/7 for a month) then I find that highly unbelievable.

I don't mean to sound like a nerd, but that really caught my eye. :xeye:


2 words for you:

2 PLAYERZ.



nah hes exaggerating, but for SURE that game paid for itself in less than a year. any arcade owner would be stupid not to get in on this.

[oDaS]

ill just wait till ''Super Sonic Street Fighter 4 Hyper Turbo X : Epileptic Edition'' comes out, then get that one.

[Yurinka]

I find that highly unrealistic.

For 30,000 dollars, at (assumingly) $1 a credit, that means there have to be 30,000 credits over the course of a month.
So that means that there's 1000 per day, and if you divide that by 24, then that's 41 and a third credit every hour on average, including hours when the place is most likely closed or has nobody in it.

I don't doubt it'll make its money back, but in less than a month? Unless there's people with thousands of dollars losing REALLY quickly (as there has to be a credit going in on average every minute and 27 seconds, 24/7 for a month) then I find that highly unbelievable.

I don't mean to sound like a nerd, but that really caught my eye. :xeye:

$24,500usd is the price of 4 PBCs, 4 machines with Street Fighter IV.

[Shungokustasu]

Typical SRK response -- 10 posters making a snap judgment based on one number in a sea of Kanji, then 10 more posters not reading the posted translation in the middle of the thread before posting their own snap judgment.

$6000 for a PCB that's essentially a high end PC ain't cheap, but it's a reasonable price.
Cool. Good look out. That seems to be a more resonable price.

[DreamTR]

I think it's 6K a board, not with machine from some places...at least that was the crap I was quoted.

[JackHound214D]

Well, I guess I can kiss seeing one at the arcade here goodbye...

[poonage]

$24,500usd is the price of 4 PBCs, 4 machines with Street Fighter IV.

$24,500 is the price for 4 PCB's. This was already stated earlier in the thread. The price with 4 x machines is ~$38,500.

[fatboy]

I think I'm gonna wait for the 360 release.
Word! 60 bucks or 6000.... Think about it... Even if the game comes out 6 months later for the console (which I bet it would come out sooner)... that is alot of extra cash to fork out on a daily basis to play it before the console release...

6000 (PCB)
- 60 (360 Game)
---------
5940 (delta)

/182.5 Days

----------

Approx. $33* a day to play the game before the release.

*That does not inclued the cost of the cab (if you do not have one), sales tax, and any other cost accrued with buying the board.

If the game comes out sooner, your really gonna have to pay more!

3 months

5960/180 ~ 66$ a day

However, if it is a year before it is released it actually might make more sense... if your a big enough fan.

5960/365 ~ 16 bucks a day.

Anyway, I am just throwing this out there... because I am trying to talk myself out of it... :lol:

[ToyRobotTerror]

fuck coinopexpress

[Gwyrgyn Blood]

fuck coinopexpress

Generally a pretty good rule actually.

Word! 60 bucks or 6000.... Think about it... Even if the game comes out 6 months later for the console (which I bet it would come out sooner)... that is alot of extra cash to fork out on a daily basis to play it before the console release...

6000 (PCB)
- 60 (360 Game)
---------
5940 (delta)

/182.5 Days

----------

Approx. $33* a day to play the game before the release.


Well keep in mind that you can always resell the arcade hardware later if you want, so you can get some of the money back. The problem is that there tends to be a big price drop within the first ~6 months so you'll almost always eat a heavy loss if you are buying something brand new. Probably will be extra true for this game which has a somewhat inflated price tag to begin with.

Is there somewhere that is selling a single kit for the game though? I thought they were initially only selling the 4x sets anyway.

I also kind of wonder about the pricing of updates... when an updated game eventually comes out, you should only need to replace the software, but who knows how much that will cost.

[DreamTR]

The idea is to play it when it DOES come to your local arcade and support the thing instead of just waiting for the console version. And everyone wonders why arcades died. If Capcom controls the release like Namco usually does, everyone will be happy.

[XtraTrstrL]

The idea is to play it when it DOES come to your local arcade and support the thing instead of just waiting for the console version. And everyone wonders why arcades died. If Capcom controls the release like Namco usually does, everyone will be happy.

It's kind of hard though, considering a lot of people have to travel further now to get to a decent arcade that may have the damn game. I mean, the local arcades that use to be around me are gone. I don't really want to go way out on the highway to get to the nearest arcade I believe may have it. It's kind of asking much for some people.

[DreamTR]

It's kind of hard though, considering a lot of people have to travel further now to get to a decent arcade that may have the damn game. I mean, the local arcades that use to be around me are gone. I don't really want to go way out on the highway to get to the nearest arcade I believe may have it. It's kind of asking much for some people.


ASking much for people to travel to an arcade? I dunno, if someone spends thousands on a board, and people don't go, that kind of destroys the lifeblood of arcades, and everyone just stays at home playing on their TV. It's asking a lot for me to have to go into someone's house and sit on the floor and play games and set that up as opposed to a public place.

If this game does well with all the hype, and Capcom keeps it out of the console for a year, we may see a slight revitalization of the arcade. Word gets out to operators that it is a good earner, and you'll see it more often if the price is right, but that's why I think people should SUPPORT going to arcades as opposed to just saying it's "asking a lot" to step out of your house and go to one. No one's asking people to go daily, I know they are few and far between, but when the game comes out, SUPPORT the arcades for once!

[DS]

The thing is, Capcom WON'T keep it off console. This is free money on console and it would sell more in that format rather than traveling everywhere in the U.S. just to play for a few hours at an arcade. You're also throwing out the fact that online will help the game a lot more. In America these days, console is where the money is at.

Oh, and before you go on this "You console warrior" rant, I was supporting arcades in my day as well, I just realized we were moving forward. Shit, I STILL go to CF to play A3, ST, CvS2, GG, and AH2. Get at me.

[HeartNana]

$24,500usd is the price of 4 PBCs, 4 machines with Street Fighter IV.
Did you even read my post? Try reading it again, i'm not talking about SFIV.

[DreamTR]

I never said they would keep it off console, but one of the reasons why arcades here went away is because games are better on console, and come out too soon. They just need to have some type of exclusivity for a bit.

[Digitalbooty]

I live in Louisville, Ky. The closest arcade that has a chance of getting SF4 is in Chicago. That's a six hour drive. To be honest, I wish they'd skip arcade release all together and go straight for console. I won't get to touch the game until then, anyway.

[DreamTR]

Digital Booty: We're getting the game in Nashville. At least that cuts your drive in half =P

[XtraTrstrL]

I live in Louisville, Ky. The closest arcade that has a chance of getting SF4 is in Chicago. That's a six hour drive. To be honest, I wish they'd skip arcade release all together and go straight for console. I won't get to touch the game until then, anyway.

If they did that the game wouldn't be as balanced or polished.

So, let it go to arcades first, that way, even if you don't get to play it then, by the time it comes home it'll be a much tighter game.

They'll have time to add more characters, stages, extras & unlockables. Because they'll be mainly porting a finished product to consoles at that point.

If they were making it for consoles right now, and it was due out summer, we wouldn't be getting as many characters or extras, and the game wouldn't be as balanced overall.

So, arcades first is a good thing, even if I can't play it yet. They have time to smooth out the rough edges this way. I like it.

[fatboy]

The idea is to play it when it DOES come to your local arcade and support the thing instead of just waiting for the console version. And everyone wonders why arcades died. If Capcom controls the release like Namco usually does, everyone will be happy.

Wait I am confused.... I thought you wanted to buy and kit? No?

[DreamTR]

Wait I am confused.... I thought you wanted to buy and kit? No?

Buy and put in arcade yes, nothing has changed.

[fatboy]

Buy and put in arcade yes, nothing has changed.

Oh! I thought you wanted it for yourself. That is why I was a little :wtf:....

So, there would be a return on this investment. This is a money making deal. I might be down.. Honestly. Depending what is involved, and how the documents were drawn up.

For the record: I am not bullshitting. (Ask Cole about me) I manage money for a for a living. I might know a few finance guys who would throw some money down just to see what happens and get a fair return.

What arcade where? FFA? Are the owners down with this?

Give me some info. If you're seriously looking for people the throw some money down, you got give us the DL. So we know what we are getting ourselves into and see if this is really worth our time and cash.

[DreamTR]

fatboy: I stated originally what I wanted to split earlier in the thread. If Coinopexpress or other places are forced into buying bundles, then forcing US to buy them in bundles of 4, I would need 3 other people in on this so we would each get a PCB. That's it. Everyone gets their own PCB.

I would never buy this for $6000 just for myself. It looks like i might be able to get it elsewhere much cheaper, and the plans are not to sell it for return on investment, as the price is good enough where I would not have to do that, but the trick is making sure I get it.

Also, it's going on location in Tennessee, I don't even live in Southern California anymore. I have games on location at a couple of places.

[poonage]

fatboy: I stated originally what I wanted to split earlier in the thread. If Coinopexpress or other places are forced into buying bundles, then forcing US to buy them in bundles of 4, I would need 3 other people in on this so we would each get a PCB. That's it. Everyone gets their own PCB.

Capcom JP is saying that 2 players is not possible with one PCB. Supposedly, you must have a pair linked up for 2 players.

[fatboy]

fatboy: I stated originally what I wanted to split earlier in the thread. If Coinopexpress or other places are forced into buying bundles, then forcing US to buy them in bundles of 4, I would need 3 other people in on this so we would each get a PCB. That's it. Everyone gets their own PCB.

I would never buy this for $6000 just for myself. It looks like i might be able to get it elsewhere much cheaper, and the plans are not to sell it for return on investment, as the price is good enough where I would not have to do that, but the trick is making sure I get it.

Also, it's going on location in Tennessee, I don't even live in Southern California anymore. I have games on location at a couple of places.

Ahh....
OK. I was not getting a clear direction of what you were thinking.

I was not planning on selling the unit for an ROI. But, more of a CF investment. Drop 6k Make 10-12k in a year 1 . Maybe 6-8k in year two. 2-4k Year three.... or something like that... etc..

That could be a fair and reasonable investment opportunity. But, I do not know enough about the industry to know what kind of inflow, outflows, and expenses to expect.

Anyway, I get what you want now. I could find a few that might be interested. But, it seems that the demographics and such maybe an obstacle.

Thanks for the info!

[markremo]

I agree. 6000, although high when compared to other games, is still reasonable (and far more believable that 23k). Has anyone been able to confirm this price? If so, it wouldn't be too hard to pool money together with friends to purchase one.

Also, you'd have to factor in the cost of importing it.

[poonage]

I agree. 6000, although high when compared to other games, is still reasonable (and far more believable that 23k). Has anyone been able to confirm this price? If so, it wouldn't be too hard to pool money together with friends to purchase one.

Also, you'd have to factor in the cost of importing it.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5065702&postcount=91

So the price for being able to play with 2 players would be about $12,000, not $6,000.

You can only split the 4-player kit into two 2-player kits. Capcom has confirmed that you do need 1 PCB per machine and at least 2 machines for versus play.

[shinblanka]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5065702&postcount=91

So the price for being able to play with 2 players would be about $12,000, not $6,000.

You can only split the 4-player kit into two 2-player kits. Capcom has confirmed that you do need 1 PCB per machine and at least 2 machines for versus play.

Wow sir, and I was thinking about going in with Jason Wilson on sf4 if it was $6000 and we split the cost , but I don't have $6000 laying around to pay for half of $12,000 for 2 pcb's. I use my extra cash to throw Final Round every year. That's fucking crazy amount for an unfinished game. If I had an arcade that wouldn't be much to make back my money and I could write off the expense for taxes and get my money back. Well that's what I would do if I was an arcade owner.

I will support any arcade in Ga. that gets sf4, because I now know how much it cost to bring the game to the states. I will try to run tournaments there to raise interest in sf4 and the arcade.

[f_man]

has anyone calculated the breakeven point if an arcade buys this?

(too lazy to do the math)

but if svgl gets this, i think theyll be the fastest ones to break even, at probably one month.

assumptions:
-kit is completely full 20 hours a week.
-4 players per kit
-3 minutes per game
-50 cents a game

[gozulin]

has anyone calculated the breakeven point if an arcade buys this?

(too lazy to do the math)

but if svgl gets this, i think theyll be the fastest ones to break even, at probably one month.

assumptions:
-kit is completely full 20 hours a week.
-4 players per kit
-3 minutes per game
-50 cents a game

Numbers give $40/hr or $800/wk, $3200/mth

Break even occurs at 10 months if numbers remain stable for Official Set or ~8 months for naked boards only.

[MarkMan]

Yea, so everyone that preordered at NCSX is fucked ;/

[jon bones]

All I know is that I'm going to spend the $5+ on gas to drive to my nearest arcade next Saturday and drop another $10 playing this game. How often I make the trek remains to be seen...

[Canto]

Yeah...

Ps3 = $400
PS3 SF4 = $60
Big Ass HDTV = Around $1500

Total = $1960

Conclusion,
Forget that PCB kit.

[DannyCat]

Playing it for up 6 months before the PS3 version is even released, though...

[Canto]

Be patient? I can wait. lol