El Fuerte!!!

[{PFH}-Lake]

El Fuerte looks cool, and also he looks like he might be the 1st capcom fast grappler like Clark

[Arsenal]

That name is going to kill me. The character design is sorta cool, but might become dated.

[kenjiharima]

So 3 wrestling styles are now in SF4.

Sumo Wrestling

Traditional Wrestling

And Lucha!!!

They say the name means "The Strong One" <<< is this accurate?

[Daigo Jr]

Wasn't expecting that...
...I think they might have got the Idea from VF5, But that's just me.

[recon_zero]

So 3 wrestling styles are now in SF4.

Sumo Wrestling

Traditional Wrestling

And Lucha!!!

They say the name means "The Strong One" <<< is this accurate?

you forgot the MMA dude


And yes, it means the Strong one. But you have to make emphasis in the R. El Fuerrrrrrrte

[Cronopio]

They say the name means "The Strong One" <<< is this accurate?

Yep.

[kennywood]

Hopefully he is given speed and some non grappler special moves ^_^

So 3 wrestling styles are now in SF4.

They say the name means "The Strong One" <<< is this accurate?

Yes.

[kenjiharima]

you forgot the MMA dude


And yes, it means the Strong one. But you have to make emphasis in the R. El Fuerrrrrrrte

4 Styles

MMA - Ok added
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmm...

Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Sean <<< SF3 - Ansatsuken

Zang, E.Honda, Abel, El Fuerte <<<SF4 - Wrestling

[CaliLifeStyle]

I thought El Fuerte meant The Fort?

[recon_zero]

literally, it could be, but sounds a lot less cooler than the strong one.

[kenjiharima]

If he's like the guy in Slam Masters whose smaller than Mike Hagar, but can spin drive him or any SF characters.

He really deserves the name "The Strong One."

Top tier? To early to say...

[DevilJin 01]

They need to make CVS3 so we can see Ramon vs. EL FUERTE!!!!

El Fuerte will EASILY be top tier. I mean just hear the name. EL FUERTE!

[Cronopio]

I thought El Fuerte meant The Fort?

Maybe it's a pun implying that he's both strong and has an inexpugnable defense or something like that.

[ben]

I hope he can magically summon a wrestling ring like rainbow mika.

[hecz]

Well in spanish is The strong one and I dont like the name, spanish is my native language, but the character looks cool.

Imagine a spanish game with a guy named The Tall Guy or something its just horrible lol.

[Kajiki]

He looks like he could be an interesting addition. It kind of keeps with the way SF games have had various fighters with different styles of different nationalities.

Well in spanish is The strong one and I dont like the name, spanish is my native language, but the character looks cool.

Imagine a spanish game with a guy named The Tall Guy or something its just horrible lol.

I think the only reason he is named that is because he is supposed to be a luchador and its his nickname. I don't know much about lucha libre or american wrestling either, but i'm pretty sure there are plenty of people that have nicknames that they use. I did a little poking around on google and found that one of the most famous luchadores was names "El Santo" which translates into "The Saint". So for his nickname to be "El Fuerte", meaning "The Strong One/The Fort", isn't too unreasonable in my opinion. They just wanted to give him that lucha libre feel, and after I see how he plays in game i'll be able to decide if i think he is a good addition or not. =)

[CaliLifeStyle]

A cross between Guy and Zangief's fighting style's would be interesting.

[fkts]

Damn grapplers.

Where's all the 3S characters?

[The Switcher]

I think translated properly, El Fuerte means, "Too bulky"

[[Roz]]

Design kinda looks nice, but the name doesn't. As a latin derivate language speaker (Portuguese) El Fuerte is just too "basic". "The Strong One?"... I guess it sounds nice to Japs.

[V4MPIRO]

Fey Long > Bruce Lee
El Fuerte > Rey Misterio

[Dai_]

you forgot the MMA dude


And yes, it means the Strong one. But you have to make emphasis in the R. El Fuerrrrrrrte

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuMp9iBaW3g

Also, pretty much is The Strong One, The Fort is something like this:

http://nd.water.usgs.gov/lewisandclark/images/fort_mandan.jpg

Yes, in spanish both are pronnounced the same way but means different things.

[V4MPIRO]

And yes El Fuerte Means the Strong One

[Gain]

A cross between Guy and Zangief's fighting style's would be interesting.

Alex-ish?

[BaSiK_TeKniK]

cool more luchadores

[Gain]

i'm just curious, but i have to ask since i'm not familiar with luchadores, how does mexican wrestling differ from american wrestling, if at all, in terms of fighting style: general movement, holds and attacks?

if anyone's familiar with that way of wrestling, how would one expect el Fuerte's personal fighting style to be, considering how capcom's treated other fighting styles in the past...

[CaliLifeStyle]

Alex-ish?

Maybe.

Give him a fast walking speed, Guy's Hurricane Kick, Guy's dash attacks, and a 360 degree throw.

[CaliLifeStyle]

i'm just curious, but i have to ask since i'm not familiar with luchadores, how does mexican wrestling differ from american wrestling, if at all, in terms of fighting style: general movement, holds and attacks?

if anyone's familiar with that way of wrestling, how would one expect el Fuerte's personal fighting style to be, considering how capcom's treated other fighting styles in the past...


Theres a couple differences. Mexican wrestling is faster paced. They use more ariel moves and complex/technical submissions. They also have a lot a team wrestling matches.

[FallingEdge]

i'm just curious, but i have to ask since i'm not familiar with luchadores, how does mexican wrestling differ from american wrestling, if at all, in terms of fighting style: general movement, holds and attacks?

if anyone's familiar with that way of wrestling, how would one expect el Fuerte's personal fighting style to be, considering how capcom's treated other fighting styles in the past...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ug92fkFAFTs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5uzNYHOAvRk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-tnyiSpTzdc&feature=related

[*Onslaught*]

Where's all the 3S characters?

Where they belong. In 3S.

[karate_ghost]

if ya don't mean my askin', but where can i find the pic of this luchadore? i will then comply with my opinion afterwards, pplz.

[karate_ghost]

neva mind, just saw it on the original evo2k.com site.

[yetighettoslang]

wow 3 grapplers so far......lets hope theres not 4 shotos, its time for ppl to learn new characters

[ramberk]

My pumped more then ever for this game!

[Arsenal]

Where they belong. In 3S.

Using that flawed logic, then the original eight world warriors shouldn't be in Street Fighter 4.

It's been confirmed that SF4 takes place in between SFII and SFIII. We have some SFII characters already. The next logical thought would be to ask, "Where are are the SFIII characters?"

[archetype]

shit looks corny, but the mexicans are happy i guess.

[KindredSpiritz]

Is he officially Mexican? For all we know he could be Guatamalan or Honduran...

[wakigatame]

Fey Long > Bruce Lee
El Fuerte > Rey Misterio

He resembles Mistico more than Mysterio, really. And that being said, I can't wait to fuck him up.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

Don't like his design or his name.

[BunnyHead]

OMG he looks like the Mucha Lucha cartoon:rofl::rofl:

[archetype]

Is he officially Mexican? For all we know he could be Guatamalan or Honduran...

Same shit.

[Shodokan123]

any pics?

[inkblot]

Which fits better with "Street Fighter, the World Warrior" theme?

1) Iconic Mexican lucha fighter with quicky back story
2) 7 foot Aztec indian complete with feathered headband and tasseled vest, with no discernible fighting style.

El Fuerte is the "Mexican Ryu" in the same way Guile was designed to be the "American Ryu." He's a stereotype with a unqiue twist, which IMO fits perfectly with Street Fighter.

[ramza]

el fuerte doesn't sound nearly as classy as Honda=/

[Pablo_the_Mex]

I just find it hilarious they went with the whole "El *random name*", which is extremely similar to El Blaze. I guess it makes sense, every mexican knows who El Santo is.

[rukawa_kaede]

lame ass name

[oyg]

there ya go
http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elfuerteoo5.jpg

[Shodokan123]

kool, thx

[*Onslaught*]

Using that flawed logic, then the original eight world warriors shouldn't be in Street Fighter 4.

It's been confirmed that SF4 takes place in between SFII and SFIII. We have some SFII characters already. The next logical thought would be to ask, "Where are are the SFIII characters?"

I wasn't using logic. That's where they belong, because I don't want to see the majority of them again. Don't give a shit about story either.

[Chrno]

So uh, is R. Mika a grappler? I dunno....

Anyway, I think it's a very unique character, and I like it a lot. I really hope we get some different types of characters too though. Maybe Tai Chi or something, etc. etc.

[Jaldaboath]

As a Spanish speaker, I hate the name, but the design is awesome and yeah it does fit the SF designs very well, as inkblot pointed out.

[Paul uk]

Tacky

[wakigatame]

Which fits better with "Street Fighter, the World Warrior" theme?

1) Iconic Mexican lucha fighter with quicky back story
2) 7 foot Aztec indian complete with feathered headband and tasseled vest, with no discernible fighting style.

El Fuerte is the "Mexican Ryu" in the same way Guile was designed to be the "American Ryu." He's a stereotype with a unqiue twist, which IMO fits perfectly with Street Fighter.

We'll go with number 2.

[MAGUS1234]

OMG yes! He looks so sweet. Well I guess I got the mexican I asked for, I will officially endorse this game :)

[SiLLiEMutAfuKA]

Oh wow! I'm loving it! Haven't really used a Luchadore in a 2D fighter before.

Looking forward to using him & C.Viper.

:woot:

[Mariodood]

Well I hope that they can manage to make these Grapplers play differently than eachother. Doesn't look like a very interesting character at all IMO..how about a woman grappler? I don't mean hot and young like R.Mika, I mean a thick russian grapplerette whos given birth to 6 kids. Thats a much funner stereotype and would actually be something new to fighters.

[DevilJin 01]

Oh wow! I'm loving it! Haven't really used a Luchadore in a 2D fighter before.

Looking forward to using him & C.Viper.

:woot:

Yeah...the closest thing to a luchadore would probably be Ramon in KOF. KOF is the only series I can think of that really has any real diversity in the grappling character department 2d wise.

[verastegui]

I think El Fuerte has mostly a Mil Mascaras feel to it with a touch of Sabu, who are popular in Japan.

Mil Mascaras is/was a bodybuilder, so he was taller and bulkier than Santo and Blue Demon, plus his attire is more creative. That's what I see in El Fuerte.

Looks cool overall. I believe that he may have some of R.Mika moves with Guy's speed and probably with more combo options like Ken.

[BaSiK_TeKniK]

He looks really interesting. I love the initial design.

[Kromo]

God I hope its not Sean in a mask.

[Green]

I think I'm gonna refer to him as El Fruity from now on.

[super yang]

God I hope its not Sean in a mask.

:rofl:

im hyped about fuerte, abel is just o.k.,and i will never like viper:shake:

[VManOfMana]

i'm just curious, but i have to ask since i'm not familiar with luchadores, how does mexican wrestling differ from american wrestling, if at all, in terms of fighting style: general movement, holds and attacks?

if anyone's familiar with that way of wrestling, how would one expect el Fuerte's personal fighting style to be, considering how capcom's treated other fighting styles in the past...

Adding to the previously posted videos, here is a full Mexican broadcast match:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fAvb1k-XgnI&feature=related

Standard format is three falls, 5-10 minute matches, and emphasiz over mat work and quick moves over power moves. Midcard matches usually have a faster pace, more mat work and less stalling. Mistico and Wagner are extremely popular so there is a lot of playing the crowd.

And no thread with Lucha videos can miss Valiente's signature dive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u--J6ziu6IY

[Are_you_okay?!]

Sweet a new character, name is kinda goofy but he looks cool. If the SF series could finally have fast grappler I'd be pleased to see it. I'm still leaning towards Abel, but I'll give this little guy a shot.

[Einlanzer]

his winning quote should be "Mas Fuerte Que La Muerte"

[Ryu go!]

his winning quote should be "Mas Fuerte Que La Muerte"

LOL!

Yeah I like the style overall, I hope is a fast char and not as heay as Hawk.

[Seijuro-HIko]

The hell is this? Virtua Fighter 4?

[DevilJin 01]

The hell is this? Virtua Fighter 4?

No...it's Virtua Fighter 5.

[papito]

El Fuerte Ultra:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=3rwlQRJNqVg

[VManOfMana]

CubsFan (who maintains luchawiki and luchablog) has some very good Lucha clips. I find the DeporTV highlights to be very entertaining.

VALIENTEEEEE

http://www.dailymotion.com/thecubsfan

[Dai_]

El Fuerte Ultra:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=3rwlQRJNqVg

Nah. Mistico plain sucks, this guy http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=hhtHigr2OJk is the real deal (though he's not even Mexican)

[Superking]

Yeah...the closest thing to a luchadore would probably be Ramon in KOF. KOF is the only series I can think of that really has any real diversity in the grappling character department 2d wise.

Ring of Destruction says hello. (http://caesar.logiqx.com/images/flyers/ringdest.png) And yes, it was a real fighting game, nothing like the previous game.

Well I hope that they can manage to make these Grapplers play differently than eachother. Doesn't look like a very interesting character at all IMO..how about a woman grappler? I don't mean hot and young like R.Mika, I mean a thick russian grapplerette whos given birth to 6 kids. Thats a much funner stereotype and would actually be something new to fighters.

Already been done with Mary in Tobal, she was dope too.

Which fits better with "Street Fighter, the World Warrior" theme?

1) Iconic Mexican lucha fighter with quicky back story
2) 7 foot Aztec indian complete with feathered headband and tasseled vest, with no discernible fighting style.



I'll take ethnically-confused T.Hawk over generic luchadore.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

No...it's Virtua Fighter 5.

Fuck yeah we get El Blaze's cousin!:rock:

[Helter Skelter]

Man, El Blaze was hardly the first Luche Libre character in a fighting game.

[eddieW]

sounds like a cool character as I always use grapplers

[Sneaks]

I can't believe an El Generico video was included in this thread, that's so good- PWG in the house.

As far as command throws are concerned, I could see a variation of a flying head-scissors takedown (or Huracarrana), which is executed like a lunge throw similar to Alex's Tornado DDT in 3s, and must be blocked low.

For a standard throw, I'm visualizing something like Sonya's throw in Mortal Kombat, like a handstand into head-scissors takedown... There are a million possibilities here, that's for sure

[blufang]

I'm not really a fan of grapplers since they are usually real slow, and require a lot of patience. However this character looks really cool, and will probably be real fast with a lot of aerial attacks and throws...should be interesting.

[rukawa_kaede]

when I'm going to see a mexican character who isn't a luchador, mexico is actually good in tae kwon do and boxing too. Give me a street fighter whatever but no more luchadores please.

[Kataklysmic]

when I'm going to see a mexican character who isn't a luchador

You missed him 14 years ago. His name's T.Hawk.

[Helter Skelter]

You missed him 14 years ago. His name's T.Hawk.

:rofl:

[MagnetoManiac]

man VF5 took rey misterio....whats up ono what you thinking =/??

[Sagatryu]

http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/m/images/mask_Rey_Mysterio_Jr_-_Oscar_Gonzalez_Gutierrez_05.jpg

http://www.filmkrant.nl/av/org/filmkran/archief/fk204/el-santo.jpg


http://www.flickr.com/photos/17228122@N00/127841674/

edit:El Fuerte looks more like the luchadores in the bottom pics.

[alpharudy]

You missed him 14 years ago. His name's T.Hawk.

he ment a good character

[Mixah]

guys come on about the 3S characters... Ryu, Ken, and Chun are all third strike....

right?


right?........ errr????????? guys?

[Jimmy Bones]

You missed him 14 years ago. His name's T.Hawk.

Woouuhh good one.:rofl:

[Imitrex]

I'm happy with the character. Glad to see that Capcom is (hopefully) keeping with the "World Warrior" aspect in adding new characters. I honestly don't care if it is shoto, grappler etc, as long as it's not an alien or robot.

[Jimmy Bones]

Grappler players will love this guy, 100% sure....

EDIT: i wanna know why did i get rep neg on that one...Whats wrong?

[WasFemto]

Man, El Blaze was hardly the first Luche Libre character in a fighting game.

No, bt he's the first one that matters.


I dig El Fuerte. He is the sole reason for playing SFIV.

[BEWD]

Man, El Blaze was hardly the first Luche Libre character in a fighting game.

Am I the only one who remembers the Luchador BOXER(eat your heart out rukawa_kaede) in Super Punch-out?

[rukawa_kaede]

I'm talking about real fighting games

T.hawk, you got me on that one but he's a grappler anyway and slow.

I want a fast character who uses his fists and kicks and can combo

[Jimmy Bones]

Grappler players will love this guy, 100% sure....

EDIT: i wanna know why did i get rep neg on that one...Whats wrong?

My bad on that one. I thought that Mask on his face defines him as a wreslter, they said he is a wrestler,...Oh well, cant wait to see what he can do...

[BEWD]

:P I know, but still, two mexican stereotypes lopped in one. Has ANY fighting game ever had a mexican boxer? >_>

[nGuman]

True BEWD brings up a good point, an Oscar De La Hoya-esque character would make 1 more boxer for Street Fighter 4.

[RevFirst]

If he plays like Clark and/or Ramon, I'll main him.
The only type of characters I feel most comfortable playing other than shotos are fast grapplers and the like.

[Tempest_X1]

I want a fast character who uses his fists and kicks and can combo


Like Angel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%28The_King_of_Fighters%29)?

[MAGUS1234]

I still think we need a rockstar to wrap up all the must haves :)

[DeathReaper47]

Am I the only one who remembers the Luchador BOXER(eat your heart out rukawa_kaede) in Super Punch-out?

Hell yeah, I played that game last week. That nigga cheated too; he would spit in your eyes and he'd become stronger and harder to hit. Fuck that dude.

[Helter Skelter]

Like Angel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%28The_King_of_Fighters%29)?

:tup:

I want to know what kind of Mexican he wants next.

[Dai_]

I'm talking about real fighting games

T.hawk, you got me on that one but he's a grappler anyway and slow.

I want a fast character who uses his fists and kicks and can combo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYb-oFreefI

[Helter Skelter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYb-oFreefI

R. Mika isn't Mexican.

[woof]

I'm talking about real fighting games

T.hawk, you got me on that one but he's a grappler anyway and slow.

I want a fast character who uses his fists and kicks and can combo
you mean almost every fighting game char

[Dai_]

R. Mika isn't Mexican.

Neither looks so japanese to me but oh well .... i get the point.

[sonicguile]

nice chars but I want to see akuma

[rukawa_kaede]

Like Angel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%28The_King_of_Fighters%29)?

WTF!!!!????????:amazed::amazed::amazed:

angel is mexican I didn't know this

I'll just shut up then,

I've never really use her kind of a difficult character but now that I know this.

no wonder mexicans use her so much,rofl

her name is kind of tricky though a name like angel in the spanish way ''Ahn-hehl'' is more suitable for a man than a woman. I've never met a girl named angel.

[Xenozip.]

Tizoc (Griffon Mask lol).

Potato wave.

[DevilJin 01]

Tizoc (Griffon Mask lol).

Potato wave.

LOL. Whenever my boys and I play Garou we always joke about that Potato Wave shit whenever someone plays as Tizoc. He is just too easy to joke on. Plus he sux ass so that doesn't even help.

[{PFH}-Lake]

the only other grappler's I could think of putting in would be a Judo character and real ninjitsu grappler. Not this fake ninja crap like Ibuki, shes not even ninjitsu shes like Taewkondo+Karate.

[X20ASTRIKEFREEDOM]

Looks like El Blaze is making a cameo in SF4. Man are they digging
into the SF3 rejects folder?

[fistoftheryustar]

Kinna cool but he still feels much like a "sidecharacter." Im looking forward to more characters that could feel like "main characters." Hopefully theyll released more characters than just these.

[SlothHands]

I think El Fuerte is a cool guy. eh kills fighters and dosen't afraid of anything.

[X20ASTRIKEFREEDOM]

All i gotta say is, I'm suprised Eileen didn't make it yet in this game....XD Who's next? Kage?

Anyways, As much as i'm looking forward to this game, in terms of fighting game more than anything right now, i must say, this is a BAD character capcom put in. I could've thought of something better in terms of character to put in here than El Forte.
All i gotta say is this, Put in, Sakura, Rose, Dudley, Yun/Yang, Alex and Ibuki. If they REALLY want to be obscure and 'random'
Put in Joe, Long and Geki from SF1. Yes, for ppl who dont' know a lot of the SF1 roster, there IS a Joe in SF.

And Sakura and Rose could EASILY be part of the SF4 storyline, because SF4 takes place BEFORE SF3. So the story picks up right after Super Turbo. And in terms of characters from different capcom francise games, Poison from Final Fight and Ginzu the Ninja Commando from Captain Commando should make an appearance in the game. Hell, i'd Take EX characters than this El Blaze rip off.
Again, Sux to see a waste of a character in this game already. Also, WHERE'S DAN!

[Kataklysmic]

All i gotta say is, I'm suprised Eileen didn't make it yet in this game....XD Who's next? Kage?

Anyways, As much as i'm looking forward to this game, in terms of fighting game more than anything right now, i must say, this is a BAD character capcom put in. I could've thought of something better in terms of character to put in here than El Forte.
All i gotta say is this, Put in, Sakura, Rose, Dudley, Yun/Yang, Alex and Ibuki. If they REALLY want to be obscure and 'random'
Put in Joe, Long and Geki from SF1. Yes, for ppl who dont' know a lot of the SF1 roster, there IS a Joe in SF.

And Sakura and Rose could EASILY be part of the SF4 storyline, because SF4 takes place BEFORE SF3. So the story picks up right after Super Turbo. And in terms of characters from different capcom francise games, Poison from Final Fight and Ginzu the Ninja Commando from Captain Commando should make an appearance in the game. Hell, i'd Take EX characters than this El Blaze rip off.
Again, Sux to see a waste of a character in this game already. Also, WHERE'S DAN!

Isn't this interesting? You don't want rip-offs, but you want Dan? WTF?

FYI, El Stingray from Slam Masters came first (this has to be the fourth time anyone's brought it up). And why is it not okay for Capcom to rip off characters when other companies have done the same?

[DavDz]

It's not like El Blaze was the first luchador in a fighting game anyway.

[Xenozip.]

Tizoc/The Griffon Mask is Mexican. And a luchador. So yeah, there's a few Mexican luchadores that came before El Fuerte.

Also Ginzu looks exactly like Hanzo Hatori from Samurai Shodown and Kenji/Mukuro from RedEarth or whatever. He's just another generic cookie-cutter pajama ninja that were all stolen from pop culture (they aren't historically accurate).

Does Capcom really need a ninja in every game? And does it really have to be a fake ass boring PJ-ninja?

This is why Guy, Maki, and Vega(claw) are cool. But they do the ninja thing too much.

[Bass X0]

Put in Joe, Long and Geki from SF1. Yes, for ppl who dont' know a lot of the SF1 roster, there IS a Joe in SF.

I think everyone knows about Joe.

[KrsJin]

Tizoc/The Griffon Mask is Mexican. And a luchador. So yeah, there's a few Mexican luchadores that came before El Fuerte.

Also Ginzu looks exactly like Hanzo Hatori from Samurai Shodown and Kenji/Mukuro from RedEarth or whatever. He's just another generic cookie-cutter pajama ninja that were all stolen from pop culture (they aren't historically accurate).

Does Capcom really need a ninja in every game? And does it really have to be a fake ass boring PJ-ninja?

This is why Guy, Maki, and Vega(claw) are cool. But they do the ninja thing too much.

They do the ninja thing too much?

I could say that about say, grapplers, or shotos, or beastly things, or fireballs. There's less ninjas than any of that, really. So I duno about that argument.

[Neko X]

IMO I think that Joe really deserves a chance. He was an undeveloped character as he was limited vastly in SF1 lol. But looking back at him in eternal challenge I would love to see him again.

[Kataklysmic]

Why use Joe when there's Cody?

[Are_you_okay?!]

Why use Joe when there's Cody?

Yeah Joe reminds me of an early stab at creating Cody, they should just retcon it as Cody in SF1. Though that would mean he got his ass kicked in the opening scene of SFII, and we just can't have that.

[{PFH}-Lake]

snip well people now adays who study real ninjitsu, not that fake crap look like this now adays http://www.aventuraanesthesia.com/DSCN1210.JPG A cadge fighter would be interesting

[Helter Skelter]

It's not like El Blaze was the first luchador in a fighting game anyway.

Dude, no matter how many times you mention it, they won't listen.

[DavDz]

I guess the saying "ignorance is bliss" is true. But I am merely stating that complaining about another luchador character is about as pointless as complaining about another karate character, ninja, TKD, and insert whatever character archetype you can name.

[Ramon]

His design reminds me of The Scorpion from Slam Masters, Or Astro as you may know him as.

[Tigerboi]

Uh, guys? Isn't KING a mexican masked luchador?

[nGuman]

Uh, guys? Isn't KING a mexican masked luchador?

Yes. So is Armor King. Lets see if there are more Mexican based characters in Soul Calibur in which the possibility is slim

[lseelba]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5uzNYHOAvRk



40 second mark...this should be El Fuerte's command throw :woot:

[clue2025]

40 second mark...this should be El Fuerte's command throw :woot:

WTF hahahahaah that would be classic. That would piss so many people off

[Celtics777]

not digging the character name

[Len Momono]

It's a nice character,too cliche but better than T.Hawk.

[Aquashark]

as a snotty euro who frowns @ wrestling, i'm not diggin' El Fuerte so much.. and the name is really uninspired (omg "The Strong One")

i hope his gameplay is really original otherwise he'll just tread on Abel and Gief ground for no reason

[DavDz]

Ryu's name when translated is uninspired as well.
Dragon.

[goodm0urning]

Ryu's name when translated is uninspired as well.
Dragon.My Japanese is pretty rusty, but you're thinking of a different "ryu." The "ryu" that translates to "dragon" is a homonym for the "ryu" that our Street Fighter guy is named after, which translates to something along the lines of "abundance" if I remember right.

Incidentally, "Ken" does not translate to "punch" either.



And El Fuerte sounds cool to me. It rolls off the tongue. Who cares what it translates to, as long as it isn't "The Pink Dick" or something like that?

[WasFemto]

Other than the fact that it's the internet, the haters need to stop hating.

[DavDz]

I am merely stating that complaining about El Fuerte's name when translated is pointless, because there are so many characters with foreign names that sound either lame or ordinary like "strong one" when translated. Best to just live with it.

[Projectjustice]

El Fuerte looks cool as a new character. God knows SF4 news new character but Capcom isnt even trying with a name like El Fuerte. Do they think that only Japanese people play fighting games?

[DavDz]

El Fuerte looks cool as a new character. God knows SF4 news new character but Capcom isnt even trying with a name like El Fuerte. Do they think that only Japanese people play fighting games?

Likewise, do they think only Koreans play Tekken?

Don't answer that question.

[Projectjustice]

Likewise, do they think only Koreans play Tekken?

Don't answer that question.

Im not concerned with Tekken. Im concerned with stupid names. Whats next? An american fighter called, The Fast One?

[WasFemto]

Japan is the only country that matters, so yeah.

I just hope he's as fun(and good) as El Blaze.

DavDZ: I agree.

[DavDz]

Im not concerned with Tekken. Im concerned with stupid names. Whats next? An american fighter called, The Fast One?

There are tons of foreign sounding names that when translated sound stupid, lame, or ordinary

[orochi ryu]

El fuerte? pinche nombre mas mamon. El fuerte does not mean "the fort" get you'alls shit straight.

[Projectjustice]

There are tons of foreign sounding names that when translated sound stupid, lame, or ordinary

This is true, Capcom doesnt need to add to it.

[DID]

my 2 cents:
1st cent: He should play like Ray Misterio! Real quick, air throw, & he should do a double backflip body splash off the top rope for his ultra.

2nd penny: Most important change his name! Like ppl were saying its too basic and bland, ugh. How about Gato Volador! LOL no no no, how about Voladero! yeah thats good.

[Dredhead117]

His name isnt going to fix how bland of a character he is, it just seems like they grabbed a nameless luchador and drew him.


Well..it is better than T. Hawk.

[Yurinka]

Hey, take a look at this: who inspired El Fuerte (in Spanish, but with tons of videos and artwork, including SF2 sketches)
http://capcom-town.es/2008/03/20/los-asombrosos-origenes-de-el-fuerte/

[Dredhead117]

See? Drawn nameless luchador.

[goodm0urning]

Yeah, kind of like a nameless stereotypical boxer or an American military guy. Characters like that are never good.

[Ryu go!]

Then name is ok. It sounds a bit generic but then again we know a lot of names that sound very lame and now they appear iconic.
Let's give it a break and wait till we see him in action.

Some people just want to bitch about everything!!

[Sagatryu]

EL Santo is one of the most famous and iconic of all Mexican luchadores, also he has been referd to to as one of "the greatest legends in Mexican sports. His Son El Hijo del Santo is one of the most successful stars in Lucha Libre.


Edit: Mistco Rank 3rd in Pro Wrestling Illustrated's list of the top 500 wrestlers of 2007

[MAGUS1234]

^^^ no kidding? Do you know what his special move was?

[Dredhead117]

Yeah, kind of like a nameless stereotypical boxer or an American military guy. Characters like that are never good.

I cant stand Boxer. Guile has thought put into him.

[goodm0urning]

I cant stand Boxer. Guile has thought put into him.Yeah, he has so many unique, interesting, idiosyncratic traits. Like having a flat top that's a little taller than usual, and... other stuff.

[Gutter Trash]

I cant stand Boxer. Guile has thought put into him.

Boxers are more credible Street Fighters than sailor uniformed pre-teens.

[A_Rival]

Boxer is Mike Tyson.

Guile was ripped off from a character in Jojo's bizarre Adventure. (in the second series)

Honestly, they didn't put THAT much thought into these characters.

[crazydiamond]

That there is indeed some interesting stuff about El Fuerte.

[WasFemto]

It's funny when people think that no company but Capcom can come up with the characters, when they are really refrenced from manga and kung-fu flicks.

Plus this is a good bump for the El Blaze-rip.

[V4MPIRO]

EL fuerte, that's the kind of name s luchadores use in Mexico, like El Santo (the saint), Mil Mascaras (One Thousand masks)and Blue demon.

[crazydiamond]

It's funny when people think that no company but Capcom can come up with the characters, when they are really refrenced from manga and kung-fu flicks.


Knowing that only makes them cooler though because it shows you the artist's influences. Also you forgot sci fi films and TV shows.

[Xenozip.]

Yes, that's how Street Fighter is. Capcom takes ideas/concepts from pop-culture or stereotypes.

Chun, Dhalsim, and Adon were taken from a Kung Fu film "Master of the Flying Guillotine". Balrog(boxer) is Mike Tyson. Alex is Hulk Hogan. Hugo is Andre the Giant. Fei Long is Bruce Lee. etc etc

However, it's not like they are incapable of being creative. They have created quite a few unique character designs in many of their games. But that's the way SF is, and SF fans have come to expect and want characters that they can identify and understand easily. When they made unique characters for the Alpha games and SF3 games people did not like them. And when you look at the SF2 cast you can tell immediately what they are and what they do, and that they are fighters, and people liked them.

El Fuerte fits. You can tell he is a fighter and what kind of fighter he is, and his name is not any different from actual Luchadores in Mexican pop-culture.

So you may say that he is generic and uncreative but he is really just a character that fits with SF.

Personally I don't like him though, but that's just because I'm not a fan of lucha libre in general, and that's really the only reason. The only thing I'm really sick of is the cookie cutter ninja arch-type because it's way overdone in everything.

[Kataklysmic]

El Fuerte fits. You can tell he is a fighter and what kind of fighter he is, and his name is not any different from actual Luchadores in Mexican pop-culture.

So you may say that he is generic and uncreative but he is really just a character that fits with SF.

Personally I don't like him though, but that's just because I'm not a fan of lucha libre in general, and that's really the only reason. The only thing I'm really sick of is the cookie cutter ninja arch-type because it's way overdone in everything.

I thought people were more sick of karate men archetypes?

Anyway, my thoughts on El Fuerte are the same. Better him than another Remy.

[kaB00M]

I thought people were more sick of karate men archetypes?

Anyway, my thoughts on El Fuerte are the same. Better him than another Remy.

God! Remy is so gay. Street Fighter is for machos, like us.

[VManOfMana]

You can argue a lot about El Fuerte's generic name, but the fact is that the name itself is not too far off of what you could see in a real lucha mask:

La Máscara (The Mask): http://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=La_Mascara
Valiente (Brave): http://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Valiente
Volador (Flyer): http://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Volador_Jr.

These three are not random wrestlers. La Mascara and Volador are upper midcard. Valiente is rising to the high card and has already wrestled with Mistico and Dr. Wagner (as high profile as you can get).

BTW Valiente doesn't look very fit, but he is a lot more agile than what he looks.

[deadfrog]

This character absolutely needs some sort of sweet running jumpkick. It could be like a short jump, goes over low attacks, knocks down or hits overhead... whatever. It would just look badass with a luchadore. :rofl:

[Shungokustasu]

I use to watch Mexican wrestling when I was little. I always thought thier stunts were more over-the-top than American or German wrestling. This guy is going to be my main if he has the tools.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

I thought people were more sick of karate men archetypes?

Anyway, my thoughts on El Fuerte are the same. Better him than another Remy.

I don't care what people say, but I have always liked Remy. Then again, I fall in the group(however small it is)that liked SF3 designs more so then any other SF game.

[MrGoneHatesYou]

[rukawa_kaede]when I'm going to see a mexican character who isn't a luchador

Urien fought out of Mexico in 3rd Strike.

[BurningVigor]

Miguel from tekken 6 isnt a luchador. In fact I have no idea what his style is. His stance is like a fucking zombie and he hits as hard as a rock.

[Rhio2k]

So 3 wrestling styles are now in SF4.

Sumo Wrestling

Traditional Wrestling

And Lucha!!!

They say the name means "The Strong One" <<< is this accurate?

"El Toro Fuerte NEVER removes his mask!"

[crazydiamond]

"El Toro Fuerte NEVER removes his mask!

"El Toro Fuerte NEVER removes his mask!

[GStick]

I don't care what people say, but I have always liked Remy. Then again, I fall in the group(however small it is)that liked SF3 designs more so then any other SF game.

Same here, their designs are a lot more interesting.


I don't particularly like him, but like others have pointed out he fits in really well with street fighter so whatever.

[SF_crazy]

I still think we need a drunk Irishman character

[Kataklysmic]

I don't care what people say, but I have always liked Remy. Then again, I fall in the group(however small it is)that liked SF3 designs more so then any other SF game.

Oh, I like the SF3 cast too, just not the 3S-exclusive characters.

Makoto is a big exception.

[4y3paragon]

Straight up, I hate El Fuerte. I never really disliked any street fighter or any fighting game character for that matter but this guy is trash. C'mon, who's really going to play this guy? Kids who never played sf before that picks him because he's a joke and mexicans for racial matters? I mean, this guy must be a "fresh new cool variety to street fighter" because there's already 3 other grapplers in the roster eh...
Hopefully, when Capcom begins to work on sf4 pt.2, they'll realize how much of a waste he was and takes him out.

[Kataklysmic]

Balrog's worse. If his stupid Tyson-ass can be in the game, there's plenty room for this guy.

[Parkreiner]

Miguel from tekken 6 isnt a luchador. In fact I have no idea what his style is. His stance is like a fucking zombie and he hits as hard as a rock.

Miguel isn't Mexican, so it'd be hard for them to make him a Luchador.

[DAWOLF57]

while I like the fact that there is a mexican character in SF4, why did it have to be another wrestler with a stupid name? They should've made a mexican boxer character, I don't know...

[VManOfMana]

C'mon, who's really going to play this guy? Kids who never played sf before that picks him because he's a joke and mexicans for racial matters?

I am gonna pick him because:

1. I am Mexican
2. I like Lucha Libre (CMLL at least, AAA is using too many gimmicks of American wrestling)
3. He is a pretty accurate representation of a técnico Lucha Libre wrestler.

Oh, by the way, I am not a kid.

I don't see how El Fuerte is a racial joke. Lucha Lubre is a style of wrestling/athletic show with a style that evolved in Mexico, and happens to get some attention in Japan. Other than boxing, I cannot think of anything else where Mexico developed their own style, and we already have a boxer (two if you count Dudley).

[orochi ryu]

How is he not a joke? Look at T.Hawk! Do us Mexicans walk around with spear hands?!
Street fighter is the most stereotypical game out there.
Besides VF5 has a "Luchador" why did sf had to jump on that bandwagon?

[Hellion]

"El Toro Fuerte NEVER removes his mask!"

Even when he's bangin his girl?
hard to believe.

[crazydiamond]

How is he not a joke? Look at T.Hawk! Do us Mexicans walk around with spear hands?!
Street fighter is the most stereotypical game out there.
Besides VF5 has a "Luchador" why did sf had to jump on that bandwagon?

Yeah like the guys at Capcom were all sitting around the table and thought "hmm how can we fuck this game up? I know let's put a joke character in!" "but don't we want to make this game successful? Shouldn't we put characters in that we honestly feel fit into the feeling of Street fighter?" "Nah fuck that, let's put a joke character in. Hey I know why not put a Luchador in the game? That would be soo funny!" "But Mexican wrestling is a well respected tradition, surely if we wanted a joke we should put something in more like Dan?" "Bwaaa ha ha! Look he's wearing a mask! Bwa ha ha ha! Too FUNNY!!"

Yeah...like THAT happened.

[Tempest_X1]

Besides VF5 has a "Luchador" why did sf had to jump on that bandwagon?

So VF wasn't jumping on a bandwagon with Ramon before that?


Or Tizoc before that?


Or King before that?


They chose a luchadore because it is a style of combat that is native to the country It doesn't always work out as such, but most fighting game characters are a microcosm of a country. Thai guys are the Muy Thai fighters, Japanese guys do the sumo, Americans box, etc. etc. There are obviously more than a couple exceptions to the rules, but it makes the most sense for a character from a specific country to practice the fighting style that is most synonymous with that country.

That is of course assuming the development of Fuerte started with, "Hey, let's put a Mexican in, now what style could we see?" Another possibility is that they decided, "Hey we want a second professional wrestler, let's go from there." From that point a luchador makes the most sense because they have a grappling style wrestler in Zangief. The basic 3 types of pro wrestling are American (With emphasis on showmanship and powerful striking/finishing moves) Japanese (With emphasis on technique) and Mexican/Lucha Libre (With emphasis on high flying aerial attacks and mat work). From that point of view it only makes sense to have a luchador who uses very impressive looking flips and jumping attacks. I wouldn't be too surprised if El Fuerte didn't have a 360 throw, instead having maybe a half circle multithrow of some sort like Clark.

[ElderGOD]

People complained about no black characters so instead of Dudley you got Balrog.

People complained that Vega was Spanish and not Mexican and now you get this Fuerte character.


Shit, first people are complaining that a character isn't in a game, and then when that character gets put in, everyone then starts complaining to take the character out.

Anyways, I bet if Fuerte were to be god tier everyone would pick him anyways, regardless of what he looks like or how he plays.

[Sasmasta]

But of course.

:/

[MAGUS1234]

Fuerte looks sweet! I hope he's not a pure grappler though. Maybe a hybrid aggressive grappler. I will definitely main him if he's playable(competitively)

[The Switcher]

Straight up, I hate El Fuerte. I never really disliked any street fighter or any fighting game character for that matter but this guy is trash. C'mon, who's really going to play this guy? Kids who never played sf before that picks him because he's a joke and mexicans for racial matters? I mean, this guy must be a "fresh new cool variety to street fighter" because there's already 3 other grapplers in the roster eh...
Hopefully, when Capcom begins to work on sf4 pt.2, they'll realize how much of a waste he was and takes him out.

Oh? You've played him? Neat.

[E-bortion]

People complained about no black characters so instead of Dudley you got Balrog.

People complained that Vega was Spanish and not Mexican and now you get this Fuerte character.


Shit, first people are complaining that a character isn't in a game, and then when that character gets put in, everyone then starts complaining to take the character out.

Anyways, I bet if Fuerte were to be god tier everyone would pick him anyways, regardless of what he looks like or how he plays.

:tup: agreed entirely. good shit.

[WasFemto]

That is of course assuming the development of Fuerte started with, "Hey, let's put a Mexican in, now what style could we see?" Another possibility is that they decided, "Hey we want a second professional wrestler, let's go from there." From that point a luchador makes the most sense because they have a grappling style wrestler in Zangief. The basic 3 types of pro wrestling are American (With emphasis on showmanship and powerful striking/finishing moves) Japanese (With emphasis on technique) and Mexican/Lucha Libre (With emphasis on high flying aerial attacks and mat work). .


or they just bit off AM2...

[shatterstar]

or they just bit off AM2...
or they did it for DAT NAMCO X CAPCOM 2. 2010, bitches! :woot:

[VManOfMana]

How is he not a joke? Look at T.Hawk! Do us Mexicans walk around with spear hands?!
Street fighter is the most stereotypical game out there.
Besides VF5 has a "Luchador" why did sf had to jump on that bandwagon?

OK, lets go point by point.

1. T. Hawk is not Mexican. He is native American. This has been mentioned more than once in this thread. Every single freaking thing, from the clothes, to the quotes indicates a (yes, badly done) native American-inspired design.

2. For the 1058123th time: El Blaze is not the first Mexican-style luchador that appears in a video game. VF has a luchador. King of Fighters has a luchador. Capcom themselves has used luchadores for fighting games. So what exactly makes you think that of all previous examples Capcom chose El Blaze as an inspiration? El Fuerte looks like a mix of Scorpion (body) and El Stingray (head) more than anything else.

Name me a fighting style with which Mexico can be easily associated with. Mexico has had good amateur and professional representation in Tae Kwon Do, Judo, and boxing. Tae Kwon Do is Korean. Judo is Japanese. Mexico has their own style of boxing, but how do you make an easily distinguishable Mexican boxer? Maromero Paez? No, thanks. They could try to pull a Julio Cesar Chavez-like character, but Street Fighter is a lot about colorful character design, and a Chavez-like character fits better in something like Tekken (see: Steve Fox).

Mexico's lucha libre style is something that can be easily identified internationaly, and there is a lot of cross-promotion between Japanese and Mexican wrestling companies. I would have a real issue with El Fuerte if for some reason they make a goofball (Ramon) or something totally silly (Mucha Lucha) out of him, but up to this point I don't see any indication of that being the case.

Yes, lucha libre is not a realistic form of fighting, but Mexico (at least CMLL) has managed to keep a certain notion of seriousness while preserving the whole mysticism around masks and providing the audience an entertaining show. I don't know where you are from or how long you lived in Mexico, but if you are not aware of it, Mexico treats wrestling in a totally different way compared to the U.S.

[ramberk]

Totally agree with VMan. What other martial arts style is closely related to Mexico? We already got two boxers, one American and one British-- we don't need a third one. If Capcom wanted to put a Mexican character, they're gonna put a Lucha Libre character. You also can't argue that Mexicans are going to be made to look bad cause El Fuerte is a bad stereotype because SF is completely full of bad stereotypes. The stereotypes are a big reason for the character's popularity.

[Kataklysmic]

Name me a fighting style with which Mexico can be easily associated with. Mexico has had good amateur and professional representation in Tae Kwon Do, Judo, and boxing. Tae Kwon Do is Korean. Judo is Japanese. Mexico has their own style of boxing, but how do you make an easily distinguishable Mexican boxer? Maromero Paez? No, thanks. They could try to pull a Julio Cesar Chavez-like character, but Street Fighter is a lot about colorful character design, and a Chavez-like character fits better in something like Tekken (see: Steve Fox).

Lol, some guys actually want a Korean SF character. Can you imagine? If they made a Korean guy, he would have to be a TKD fighter. But that wouldn't please anybody because then they'd be bickering about how he's a ripoff of Kim Kaphwan and should've had a different fighting style.

[Don Mack]

I assume Dudley is black

[Helter Skelter]

I assume Dudley is black

Yeah, is Black or quite possibly Mixed Race. I would go with the former though.
He's a combination of Jack Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Johnson_(boxer)) and John L. Sullivan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Sullivan).

[MiLky]

Yeah, is Black or quite possibly Mixed Race. I would go with the former though.
He's a combination of Jack Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Johnson_(boxer)) and John L. Sullivan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Sullivan).

Heh, looks like sullivan has a camel toe, or is tucking it back in this pic.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/John_L_Sullivan.jpg
I think that Capcom based Poison off of him, thiefs!

[coco_j]

El Fuerte looks like he could be a fun character to use. I heartilly endorse this event and or product.

[Nightwing1990]

Ramon < El Fuerte

[Nokato]

Ramon is the most enthusiastic crackhead luchadore ever.

[FallingEdge]

Fuck. All these wrestling fans. Why don't you guys post in the wrestling thread? We need more peeps who are into the indy scene.

[terracotta]

who the he'll is complaining about Dudley? If we got a character like Dudley everytime someone complained, I wouldn't stop complaining.

[Higher-Jin]

I'm hispanic, and I will definitely learn how to play with El Rey...erm I mean El Fuerte when he comes out.

He'll probably be some kind of mix between vega and gief.

[gridman]

Absolutely ridiculous

edit: the people in this thread complaining, not el fuerte

[crazydiamond]

Fuck. All these wrestling fans. Why don't you guys post in the wrestling thread? We need more peeps who are into the indy scene.

Independent what?

[Helter Skelter]

Independent what?

Yeah, I was confused about that comment also.

[FallingEdge]

Ah. I mean the indy wrestling scene. PWG, ROH, CHIKARA and the like. AAA and CMLL too even though they really aren't considered indy.

[Akutabi Gamma]

So Capcom didn't even show a vid of how Fuerte plays like at the Loketest?

[Mythril]

Fuerte is my middle name. Best.

[V4MPIRO]

I don't care if he's low or top tier, i will be rocking him no mater what, ORALE !!!

[DAWOLF57]

Name me a fighting style with which Mexico can be easily associated with. Mexico has had good amateur and professional representation in Tae Kwon Do, Judo, and boxing. Tae Kwon Do is Korean. Judo is Japanese. Mexico has their own style of boxing, but how do you make an easily distinguishable Mexican boxer? Maromero Paez? No, thanks. They could try to pull a Julio Cesar Chavez-like character, but Street Fighter is a lot about colorful character design, and a Chavez-like character fits better in something like Tekken (see: Steve Fox).


While I don't completly understand why a mexican boxer wouldn't fit into SF in your opinion, I would've much rather see that instead of another wrestler. The SF franchise already has Zangief, T-Hawk, R. Mika, Alex, Hugo, Abel and El Fuerte as wrestler-type characters while only Balrog and Dudley are boxers. Anyway I'll probably give this character a shot, atleast his design is not as bad as T-hawks.

[Rhio2k]

Ramon is the most enthusiastic crackhead luchadore ever.

Agreed. Biba Mekshikou! Hasta Rabishta!

[Tempest_X1]

While I don't completly understand why a mexican boxer wouldn't fit into SF in your opinion, I would've much rather see that instead of another wrestler. The SF franchise already has Zangief, T-Hawk, R. Mika, Alex, Hugo, Abel and El Fuerte as wrestler-type characters while only Balrog and Dudley are boxers. Anyway I'll probably give this character a shot, atleast his design is not as bad as T-hawks.

But thus far only Zangief and Abel are in SF4. Plus if you want to get technical, Abel isn't a wrestler, he is a Sambo/Mixed Marital Arts fighter.

[crazydiamond]

Hey the designers are wrestling fans. It's natural for them to put in what they like.

[Poor Man's MK]

As a 2D Fighting game high hat, this character appals me.

[SaDo]

im guessing he will be fillin t hawks spot which kinda sucks but i aint mad at capcom for keepin it fresh.

i always liked thawk cuz im a good part native american

[Mycah Leonhart]

I pray to the good lord above that this motherfucker is a STRAIGHT Ramon ripoff all the way down to the retarded priority and supurb high/low mixup games.

This will be the first time EVER I'm glad a company ripped off another company.

[ColdBrand]

You're not glad about Dan? Are you some kind of monster?

[Mycah Leonhart]

You're not glad about Dan? Are you some kind of monster?

Dan's a Parody, Not a rip off.

[dbycrash]

can you dash cancel his illegal border crossing move?

[Roshihikari]

Dan's a Parody, Not a rip off.

Yeah, the first time I saw Dan, I thought he was a Taiwanese version (Ryu - Japan, Ken - American, Chun Li - China, Fei Long - HongKong) of Ryu or something, he had his moves slightly altered. THEN I FOUND OUT HE WAS A COMIC RELIEF CHARACTER.

[SSJGouKi]

Finally an El fuerte gameplay video! Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

[jabhadouken]

But thus far only Zangief and Abel are in SF4. Plus if you want to get technical, Abel isn't a wrestler, he is a Sambo/Mixed Marital Arts fighter.

Honda is there as well.

I normally play striker-type characters, but I really like the variety of grappling styles represented in SF4.

I don't usually like to play as grapplers, but I might just give Abel a shot.

[rozi]

Finally an El fuerte gameplay video! Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

you are big idiot ...

[SaDo]

can you dash cancel his illegal border crossing move?

ya but be sure to super cancel it to his cholo chop

Finally an El fuerte gameplay video! Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU


thx, we all got what we deserved. lol

[MiLky]

Finally an El fuerte gameplay video! Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU


Negged... jesus, wasn't that old a year ago?

[goodm0urning]

Finally an El fuerte gameplay video! Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiUI admit, I fell for it.

Pay no mind to the negs. This is the SF4 forum, and a Rick Roll is, by default, one of the more intelligent things that can be posted here.

[Tigerboi]

I admit, I fell for it.

Pay no mind to the negs. This is the SF4 forum, and a Rick Roll is, by default, one of the more intelligent things that can be posted here.

I like chowder.

I honestly think that all fighting styles have been touched on for the most part. (all that seem reasonable for a 2D fighter anyway)

[jabhadouken]

I admit, I fell for it.

Pay no mind to the negs. This is the SF4 forum, and a Rick Roll is, by default, one of the more intelligent things that can be posted here.

LMMFAO.

Quoted for truth! :rofl:

[blankspaces]

Finally an El fuerte gameplay video! Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

:rofl: @ the people getting mad at falling for this and taking revenge with the neg rep

here is a hint if the video ends with " uuiU (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=uuiU) " its a rickroll

[angelslayer13]

his winning quote should be "Mas Fuerte Que La Muerte"

fucking win.

[kempobot]

Finally an El fuerte gameplay video! Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

haha good jerb legitimately tricking people, and having them make obligatory "shit is old" comments to cover their insecurity... i must admit that you got me fair and square on this one. :rofl:


his winning quote should be "Mas Fuerte Que La Muerte"fucking win.

i concur.

[Yurinka]

While I don't completly understand why a mexican boxer wouldn't fit into SF in your opinion, I would've much rather see that instead of another wrestler. The SF franchise already has Zangief, T-Hawk, R. Mika, Alex, Hugo, Abel and El Fuerte as wrestler-type characters while only Balrog and Dudley are boxers. Anyway I'll probably give this character a shot, atleast his design is not as bad as T-hawks.

Well, Abel uses (like the real guy from who's based (http://capcom-town.es/2008/02/17/el-origen-de-abel-personaje-de-sfiv/)) a mixture of Sambo, Judo and MMA tecniques).

And El Fuerte uses Mexican Wrestling and have some special origins, (http://capcom-town.es/2008/03/20/los-asombrosos-origenes-de-el-fuerte/) so he won't be a typical grappler. Looks like he will be fast, flashy and focused in flying and overhead attacks, with juggly movements.

[.dub.]

El Fuerte is the first "thing" in SF 4 that has really disappointed me... looks like ass and doesn't fit the style at all in my opinion. meh.

[AdverseSolutions]

i'm late?

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1214532_1124.html

[WasFemto]

i bet the 3rd pic ends in a knee bash:tup:

[fallot]

i bet the 2nd pic ends in an omelette:tup:

[Jaldaboath]

i'm late?

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1214532_1124.html

The last pic is priceless, I hope that's the intro for Fuerte vs. Gief.

[The Furious One]

http://i26.tinypic.com/14l5a1y.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

found it on gamersyde. Seriously needs to be in the game.

[Lvl.3]

Well, Abel uses (like the real guy from who's based (http://capcom-town.es/2008/02/17/el-origen-de-abel-personaje-de-sfiv/)) a mixture of Sambo, Judo and MMA tecniques).


Actually Abel uses the art of rehashed Sean moves technique. he only has like 2 original moves. Fuerte looks original on the other hand, his moves based on the pics seem very unorthodox, sort of like R.Mika...meaning, he'll be fun to play.

The last pic is priceless, I hope that's the intro for Fuerte vs. Gief.

That looks like a start to a super or ultra?

[Sagatryu]

I disargee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgLaFVt8Nms

1: Abel's charged of direction move can either in a low grab where he flips the opponet in the air, or it can end in a high grab where able does a ground toss.

2: Abel's super combo has 3 finshers , shoulder charged, 360 throw and Launcher + anti air slam.


http://www.judoinfo.com/techjudo.htm

Sambo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBjin8zNUWc&feature=related

[STDthaGreat]

I like the look of El Fuerte. I gotta feeling he will be a popular character. His looks and antics r funny.

[Helter Skelter]

My ideas for El fuerte movelist.

-Backwards and forwards dive/elbow move.
-Wall jump move with close hits resulting in attack throws (like a Hurricarana).
-Slide attack like Guy's from Street Fighter Zero.

[OhNoos]

-Slide attack like Guy's from Street Fighter Zero.

What makes you think, El Fuerte isn't Guy in disguise? :looney:

[EveryFlowerFlow]

i'm late?

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1214532_1124.html


Is he holding a frying pan in the second pic?

[SlothHands]

Looks like Capcom's marketing team is working real hard to add some pesos to their sales. I'm betting he'll play a good role on the box art so one of the millions of meixcans that are at wal mart looking at games, will tell his mommy to buy SFIV.

[ElderGOD]

Is he holding a frying pan in the second pic?

That makes no sense if he is, unless that's going to be the joke character in the game.

[Helter Skelter]

That makes no sense if he is, unless that's going to be the joke character in the game.

He's a cook, so it kinda does make sense.

I reckon he'll be the R.Mika character. Really wacky and extravagant.
He will also say stuff like "SUPER COOKING POWER!!"

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

i bet the 2nd pic ends in an omelette:tup:

Oh my god:rofl:

[sixtymhz]

Im sorry, but El being on top of the shoulders pointing to the sky is pure win.

[JackTenrac!]

Mexican'll be disappointed when Ryu wins the tournament again.

[Indy]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/202161.html?playlist=featured

El Fuerte vs. Zangief. Sorry if this has been posted already. He looks pretty fast and reminds me of claw to some extent.

[Akutabi Gamma]

Any other vids than that?
His Ult. is pretty badass IMO, def. gonna use him a lot.

[_MJ_#R]

not bad tho i think he needs to be slow down a tad.