Evo Brawl Rules Discussion

[Keits]

You tell me how not to die when HIT by Ike's/Marth's/Zelda's/Shiek's Final Smash, and I'll start taking you seriously. Until then, you're just another troll that shouldn't be taken seriously. And don't tell me "sit in the basement of Hyrule" 'cause that's how not to die EVER.

Ge the fuck outta here. There were instances of zelda FS and ike FS not killing AT dbq. You are STILL not playing items on routinely to test things. If you are not interested in testing or truth, what are you doing here?

[Hogosha]

Get the fuck outta here. There were instances of zelda FS and ike FS not killing AT dbq. You are STILL not playing items on routinely to test things. If you are not interested in testing or truth, what are you doing here?

Point them out. That's all I'm asking. Also, me watching some of those videos is a first time viewing for most of 'em. Heck, I don't even remember some of the stuff that happened during MY matches. If you don't recall, I was BUSIER THAN HELL THAT DAY.

I want to know if it's preventable. If, when getting hit by those Final Smashes, I can DO something about it to live. I'm relatively sure that on 85% of the levels it is a GUARANTEED KILL ON HIT. Show me where it isn't on the other 15% and I'll start listening. How situational is it? Do I have to sit somewhere on the bottom of Hyrule or the middle of NPC? Pray that I don't bounce too far up off the walls of Shadow Moses? Maybe some crap with getting lucky on Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 (the worthless level that it is)? Tell me instead of being a high-and-mighty schmuck like most everyone else in this thread.

[Ceirnian]

You tell me how not to die when HIT by Ike's/Marth's/Zelda's/Shiek's Final Smash, and I'll start taking you seriously. Until then, you're just another troll that shouldn't be taken seriously. And don't tell me "sit in the basement of Hyrule" 'cause that's how not to die EVER.

Ikes will not kill at 0% and has a shorter range, can be dodged as well

The other's that you mention all go in a straight line, have a start up time, can be dodged and for characters with super armor I'm fairly certain will absorb the FS. Not only that but if you are on a level with any type of wall you can tech off of a wall to make sure you don't die (press shield as you hit a wall or other surface and you will tech).

Those final smashes are pretty good, but they are also limited in how they can hit. It's not exactly easy to hit with those... in fact I'd say Ike's is the easiest out of that list.

[lamewadd]

You tell me how not to die when HIT by Ike's/Marth's/Zelda's/Shiek's Final Smash, and I'll start taking you seriously. Until then, you're just another troll that shouldn't be taken seriously. And don't tell me "sit in the basement of Hyrule" 'cause that's how not to die EVER.See, this is one of those things that lends credence to the "you're not even worth talking to because you don/'t know what you're talking about" argument. You don't know what you're talking about!

A Selphie in Final Fantasy 8 has an instant kill. Critical Hit and the Dragoon are not instant kills. They're one-hit knockouts.

Ike's FS isn't even a one-hit knockout. What a terrible post.

On the other hand, so is turning on Final Smashes being "subjective".

EDIT: Hogosha is one of the few guys so far I can like in this thread.

What was the point in quoting me in that post? You didn't even respond to anything I said! :rofl:

Get out, Evo. Three names and not a single thing you've said has been worth reading.

[CyntalanMaelstrom]

What was the point in quoting me in that post? You didn't even respond to anything I said! :rofl:

Look at the bolded text. The guy just fails at quoting, but there's replies there.

[Keits]

Hogosha - What can you do to stop the effect of any super in any game WHILE being hit? Whats most important is what leads up to you actually being hit...

that said, zelda/shiek and ike fs do not kill from 0 percent (without special positioning) and nearly any stage. Marths does without a wall tech, but his is actually the hardest to land out of that bunch without taking risks to set it up. No one is saying that these supers arent rockin good... i mean poor olimar is going to strugle to do 20 percent to you with zero knockback with his super...

Its all in your viewpoint. You say turning these on changes the balanace (tiers) from its base... but the fact is that these are on normally, and its turning them off tha arbitrarily moves game balance to a place that you prefer. If i wanted to, i could probably create a set of smash rules that most favor my favorite character. Im not saying this is what is going on, but the choice to shift balance away from final smash is arbitrary in that none of them break the game in the slightest (and the most random one of the bunch, kirbys, is not even being questioned).

You have to decide... do you want to play all-brawl with your fellow competitive friends and learn and contribute? if not, why are you here? the time for uninformed opinion ended 10 pages ago. Take what you think is objectionable, and show objectively why it breaks the game. Then we can chat like adults, instead of me bellitling you (goes for everyone posting this way).

[lamewadd]

Look at the bolded text. The guy just fails at quoting, but there's replies there.

I know. I was just being an ass.

He's still a dipshit, though.

[lamewadd]

the time for uninformed opinion ended 110 pages ago.

Fixed. Smashboarders clearly can't back their shit up. They shouldn't have been posting here in the first place.

[MrWizard]

No more feedback is needed, beta rules this week, and will be finalized sometime next week.